@@desertsavagery 🤣 did you watch the adventure series yet? Amazing. So proud of these guys and thankful for great content. Thomas had a moment back when he drove the bac mono and in the adventure series James had one. Sharing how grateful they are for having the opportunity to create this content and make it their 'job'. I'm grateful we get to enjoy it ♥️
I'm glad you guys are self-aware of the loss of that "sense of wonder" that normal enthusiasts have around cars. No one gets to drive all the best cars like you guys do, so there really is a mystique around a lot of fun cars, especially ones that aren't just seen driving around. I'm a college student who loves Audi, so I drive an A4. I am so attracted to things like the RS5 and R8 because I genuinely can't imagine the driving experience. I think that's something a lot of youtubers/journalists lose sight of. Seeing reviewers sit with a straight face and act bored in 300+ HP cars is so disheartening, because it shows how different their perspective really is from the average enthusiast.
My dream car is the E46 M3, which for Thomas was available and easy to buy. He worked hard to get where he is now but as mentioned, they lose that sense
I love this. Two car guys just sitting and talking about their cars, dream cars, and actually (kind of almost) attainable dream cars. It’s the same conversation I’d have with my car enthusiast friends.
I’m with James, going with the Blackwing, manual/ lots of power/if you have kids-family they can fit ! This was a great way to enjoy a Saturday afternoon 👍
Agreed. Was my instant thought when James popped the question! Last year I would have said the E63 AMD wagon as well. Also, I really do like the upcoming Emira and looking at it as a possible replacement in the future for my Mustang GT. Maybe I am James??
As an owner of an ND2 MX-5 RF GT, I have to say James is right on for all points. The community is great. And your only real “upgrade path” is a Lotus. Been eyeing the upcoming Emira myself… My winter/daily is a 4Runner though.
I’ve been eying mx-5 for a while.. I love the idea of a connected, light weight, fun car but I don’t know if I can settle for the lack of power. I know that sounds dumb but I have a tuned mk7 GTI that, while not a rocket, pulls so hard. I don’t know if I can lose that and still love it. Evora’s are kind of out of range of what I want to pay for an occasional use car.
I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata……I want basically any other car 😂 But if I’m being more specific I want a Honda Accord Sport 2.0T, BMW M2, and M340I. (Update) I now drive a 2017 330i and I love it! I’m glad to finally be part of the bimmer community!
Once you driven M2 you aren't gonna want any of the other cars lol I don't own these but I've driven all 3 of them and the m2 is the most special bang for your buck. (Not that is cheap)
I’m a one car at a time kinda guy. M2 competition is the only thing I have and the only car I expect to own for the next 5+ years. Apparently the autosolutions short shift kit is the one to buy for clicky shifts, but I haven’t done this mod yet.
100% agree. I always dreamed of the extra car thing... until I experienced it. Simplicity, and getting to enjoy a good vehicle every time you drive beats that every time. M2 is epic - cheers
@@sandersonjd776 hahaha I feel that! I wish I could afford the RS7 AND the maintenance hahaha I bought my S6 at 65k miles, I'm at 77k and have spent about $6K in mods and maintenance/repairs, which I do myself. The car is in a really good place now.
The great thing about Thomas and James is that they seem like regular guys. Its also amazing that I would actually watch a video of two guys sitting on a couch talking about cars, says a lot…..
Thoroughly enjoyed this. I wish I could sit down with you guys and just blabber and debate about cars all day long. James, please don't ever get rid of the Miata. I did, and I regret it...
The quality shows. I consume so much UA-cam and James and Thomas are up top with Mark and Jack. No one else even comes close to these four guys and I greatly appreciate the work and effort.
I mean this in all seriousness. you 2 need your own car show WITH your entire team. your reviews are always spot on and honest. The comedy you 2 bring is always well placed. The Edits give me nostalgia vibes from classic top gear. Its Cinematic, well put together, with just enough messing around. I got through this entire video thinking is was like 15 minutes. It went by so fast!
Loved this content. It was PEAK car guy. Had me pausing and searching and guessing your picks before you said them. Excellent choices, gents. Well done!
The shortest 44 minutes on UA-cam. James, what happened to the “I tried to make it last longer” (or something similar to that)? We-Want-More! Silly comment aside, greetings from Greece! You make exceptional videos - be that “extra” or not - which are definitely a Must-Watch. Wish lists are a beloved game, dating back to childhood. Since men remain children, wish lists go on forever! Now, I am more of a rider than a driver (I love cars but only had one, so far), but there are no less than a dozen of cars I would love to have. Down-to-earth personal Top3 would be: i20N, Type-R and Giulia Veloce. If I had to…survive my wife’s nagging, the Top3 would probably be: Jazz, 308 and XC40. Until then, long live my 2004…Panda!
Hi my Greece brother! If time is not come for dream car and you want to change Panda you should try Suzuki Ignis. I bought one and it's so fun, even driving slow speeds. And it's practical, my wife likes it too.
@@TenSapphires Well…were I on the lookout for such a small car, Ignis would definitely be my pick. I have liked it ever since it came out and still has the edge over all other cars in its class!
Well I have a Volvo 850 Wagon and the only car I want more than mine is the 850 R Wagon :D And the 850 was the reason why I found your main UA-cam Channel. Back then Thomas made a review of the 850 as a winter beater. Love you guys keep it up
Yeah yeah the cars are cool but the T-Rex skull and the golden record from the Voyager behind you are sick! I want those. Also, I see that vibrator charging in the background there :)
I have an m235i in a similar blue with red interior. Got it lightly used in place of a model 3 performance and man, despite the model 3 technically being faster, I do not regret that decision. Such an amazingly fun car to drive.
As an ND owner, I very much struggle with an upgrade path as well. Which partly comes from not having enough funds to spend triple the price on something else. Loved this discussion!
There is no upgrade path from a miata ND its peak fun for twisty roads only thing better is a air cooled 80's 911. Unless ur a heavy track guy, any car u replace the ND with will dissapoint no matter how much it costs. Thats why u should probably add a car instead of replace the ND
Love the attitude of these guys.... not trying to be funny, they just are.... and it feels like having a chat with your next door neighbour over a beer. Bravo. Keep going
Maybe the best Extra to date. Great combination of information and entertainment. Call it infotainment. Hey, I just made up a new word. Seriously, this is like a conversation some car guys might have over a couple of beers.
My car guy friends and I often have this conversation over a couple of beers. We all have different tastes and different goals, and it's fun to see where this takes them. It's also really fun when your friend picks something that makes you reconsider your own decision, like James did with the E63S. Anyways, I highly recommend doing this with your friends. Carve out some time, grab some brews, and chop it up. You won't regret it. Cheers!
Ya bro - I flew through this with 2 glasses of scotch and it was one of the best things I've listened to in months. You're car content is unmatched on youtube - but I'd listen to you guys talking about cars for hours. Congrats on all you've EARNED, and keep up the awesome content.
Thomas, you own exactly the cars I would own, if I could afford them. From my perspective, great taste in cars, kudos sir! I have been watching since the E46 DIY stuff and it's unbelievable the progress made since those days! Congrats and looking forward to future content!
I could definitely go for more of these videos every so often. I have a long commute, it's nice to be able to listen to this like a podcast. Plus, it's nice to hear you guys get to talk in a less structured forum
One of the many things I really love about Thomas and James is that they are real, normal, down-to-earth, gearheads. Thomas races in Lucky Dog, for example, which is one of the best, affordable, grass roots amateur series (which I participate in). There is no exotic hypercar crap in their garages nor in their dreams, unlike many UA-camrs. They drive and dream about mostly attainable stuff that most of us would be considering. Very relatable. Great series, guys and most excellent video.
I'm very fortunate to have found a terrific, affordable car in my Lexus GS430 3rd-gen. Comfy, crazy reliable, and enough driving dynamics to make my commute entertaining. That said, there is serious magic in dreaming of the 2022 BRZ/GR86, wondering what it's like to rip that little sucker to work.
I am sitting here eating my boiled eggs, bagel, and cream cheese while drinking my coffee; watching this. All while procrastinating going to work. I am self-employed. However, I have better things to do than watching two guys chat on a couch about awesome cars. Buuuutttt, I'd rather watch guys sit on a couch and talk about awesome cars.😁 Great job, guys. Love your videos.
😂 “i really want that” “the steering lacks…” “doesn’t matter, i really want that.” This was me finding my now owned 2023 BMW M240 RWD. I’m love her and it was all so unexpected. I still have my 2006 Evo IX that is my baby, but I needed something I could share with the wife that was still a beast. Thank you for this content. I enjoy watching genuine dialog between people with experience. The practicality of your choices is both refreshing and reassuring that true car enthusiasts search for something beyond just the body and specs.
I’m totally with James. Even though I haven’t actually driven all of the cars you guys have, no new car really draws any awe from me. Maybe a 911 Turbo 4s for a daily? A Singer for some classic enjoyment? Currently own my childhood dream car (a mint 2 door manual Jeep Wrangler) that I’ll have until the day I die, but I truly want a sports car. I have the jeep for nice weather, a work truck for work, my wife has an suv for road trips.. I need something completely impractical. And a bigger garage.
You two need to stop being so fking entertaining! hahaha. I'm trying to fall asleep listening to your conversations and you make it borderline impossible with me grinning and laughing in bed. Thank you.
Yes Caterham. Thank you for finally bringing them into Throttle House canon. Only driven one once for a short time but it gets under your skin. I firmly believe for visceral driving experience no one does a roadster like the British. The only one I consider more than caterham would be a Morgan
@@nogbadthebad6294 👍🏼unfortunately we don't see many in Canada. Caterhams are a little easier to come by (for sale) and would likely have more track appeal
In late 2021 I finally attained my dream car- an F80 M3. Sure there are other nicer cars that I would love to have, but I think it’s very similar to what James said about diminishing returns, and working yourself to death to get the “next/newer/nicer” car. The F80 is already a very expensive car to me (especially in this current climate where everything has went up in price). I think I’m at the top of what I think is reasonable for myself- especially considering I’m not a good enough driver to even take full advantage of what the M3 can do. If anything, I need to spend money on some track lessons before considering a “faster” car. P.S. - you guys need to do a video on the F80. You’ve done every other M3. Compare the new G80 to the F80 like you did with the cheapest E9x vs G80 video. Would love to see that. Keep up the great work!
Same here with my Lexus GS F. A lot faster more capable performance sedans out there but this one is special in its own ways. Too bad these guys never tested it either and instead did the RCF.
@@alalal123421 absolutely is. I’d love to hear why not. Just because it’s not as fast doesn’t mean it’s not in the same caliber. More rare, more expensive, and more exclusive.
@@alalal123421 it is true, it’s not an M3. It’s better. More rare. Wayyyy more reliable. Better interior. Better engine ten fold. N/A V8 vs hot turbo I6? Come on now.
I really liked this segment. It's interesting to see what guys who review/drive cars for a living have in their own garages. I also enjoy the vibe between the two of you that makes it real and engaging. Great work on this and on the main site. Thanks.
Just want to say thanks for the content guys. This year I got a failed spinal fusion and cancer from all the x rays n scans and then my car blew up and had to get rid of it. And hard to find a dec sports car on disability. Your content keeps my spirits up and hope to see you dudes around the streets of the GTA to get some merch autographed and a pic. Oh maybe a test between Genesis G70 v Infiniti Q60s 🤙👍🤙👍🤙
Keep your spirits up friend. In 2010 I lost half of my right leg to an IED in Afghanistan and sold a motorcycle and a manual trans car I had at the time. Deep depression afterward, but keeping a positive mental attitude is paramount. I too want to meet the guys, but I want them to autograph my chest…..it’s a rock concert thing.
@@gouldnj thank you for your service sir. Seems like you have to really appreciate driving something that puts a smile on your face and be quite a physical person to understand how stressful it can be.
I was thoroughly entertained listening to the discussion for 45 minutes, and it feels like you guys discuss your real enthusiast feelings in a very honest, transparent way that doesn't feel intimidating. Your environment feels very inviting and warm for enthusiasts to sit down and talk about cars and makes me want to have something like that in my life. Also, James put down a deposit on the Lotus Emira, or so he told us in a later video, so feels like he was already contemplating this choice for a while... Organic content. Love you guys (as automotive journalists and vloggers, obviously).
3:20 i would love to see an extra throttle house road trip debrief on this channel! talk is through the process of keeping a $50,000 CAD AE86 and full restoring the beams engine. tell us what’s next for the volkswagon rabbit gti, maybe a supercharger is in order to keep parity with the 86? Thomas did mention in episode 1 of the road trip that his rabbit didn’t really have *that* special of an engine (unlike his current Alfa Romeos featured here). 3:20 man his spaghetti’s itb’s sound amazing!
12:41 This really struck a chord. Even with just two "fun" cars, I feel terrible letting one sit, so I combined both into one single car. I might get a boring dedicated daily to go alongside it, but never >1 fun car again unless it's a dedicated track-only car.
I would love a second car, just can't justify the expensive of a car that just sits most of the time. Picked up a cheap, 20 year old motorcycle instead. Less guilt with the super low price tag and super cheap insurance.
Excellent conversation! I’m currently in a 2020 WRX premium and heavily contemplating what my next jump up will be. M2 has been on the radar for a long time, but this new lotus makes me feel funny in the pants lol. Unfortunately driving them both and then deciding will likely not happen.
Lotus would likely cost the same as a properly loaded cayman GTS 4.0 or a GT4. It’s just like buying a corvette in the UK but in reverse. I was shopping between the new g80 m3 xdrive, lotus evora, and cayman gts 4.0. In the end the Porsche made a lot more sense to me purely from a price perspective and went with it (still waiting for my allocation).
@@k.w5804 So I am here in Tennessee, Corvettes and Porsche‘s are literally everywhere. But Lotus are very rare. It just checks all of the boxes for me.
@@ColtCapperrune Yeah in North America lotus is definitely rarer no matter where you are. You should be able to test drive one at least the evora. 11/10 fun car but imo not something you want to daily.
@@Gandalf721 Thanks for all the valuable financial advice lol. I didn’t say when I was trying to buy, just trying to figure out what the next car will be. But I appreciate your suggestions, and adding to the conversation…
This video was just a delight. You both come across as such personable, fun guys who just love cars. Especially enjoyed James's explanation of his plate on the Miata, such a cool reason for a custom plate. Keep up the fantastic work, look forward to more videos of you two just talking about cars!
I've loved you guys for a couple of years now. Hilarious...down to earth...intelligent...spot on with your reviews and assessments and balance. But James naming his MX-5 in honor of Carl Sagan...your stock just jumped to the top of the car journalist heap. It almost...almost makes me want to trade in my BRZ for the MX-5. If I only liked...at all...convertibles.
I'm with James on the restomod dream car, there's nothing like a well executed blend of classic, soulful style and modern engineering. My dream car is MZR Roadsports' Datsun 240Z and it's even got a dream car pricetag. There's nothing I want more, which is going to be tough news for my kid. Anyone know what a white baby goes for these days?
Mine is a GT3 RS. My second though is a Shelby Daytona Coupe. The company that does the parts for the Cobra that Thomas and James drove in an episode does the parts for the Daytona Coupe so you can do your own.
@First Last nice. only raptor ive been in was the one my dad got while his mustang was getting fixed up. they’re nice asl. if i were to get a truck i’d prolly go with something crazy and get a super snake
I really enjoyed the discussion and it’s obvious you two are not snobby or pretentious at all. I currently drive an M340i and my aspirational car is a Taycan.
Thank you for the memory to start this off. I owned a 69 Alfa Spider with SPICA and loved it. Traded it in when I was in the Navy for something with more room to carry stuff when going from duty station to duty station. I have yet to live down that mistake. Before I die, I hope to own another Alfa Spider...
I kept my '92 NA Miata and added a Boxster Spyder. I love them both but I cant say the Spyder is multiple X's better than the Miata. Faster, yes, corners better, sounds better, but overall I still will never give up the Miata. Do not get rid of your Miata
Sounds like James wants a Alpine a110, it is basically a blend between a Miata and a Porsche gt4. Here in Europe the Alpine a110 is considered a superior car to the Porsche (according to reviews) and best of all, it is less expensive, but i'm not shure if it is avalible in the US or Canada. (Please be considerate of my spelling, not a native english speaker)
You guys need to check out a channel called Homebuilt by Jeff - he's building an Alfa 105 with a Ferrari 360 V8 - forget about the GTA-R. Another great episode fellas, can't think of two other guys i'd listen to for 44 mins without skipping! 👍👍👍
I have a new love for James after finding out why his license plate is 4 Sagan and about his pale blue dot Miata, I wasn’t alive to have witnessed Sagan in his intellectual glory but the videos I have on UA-cam show a man who truly cared about the world and the next generations ❤ Edit:then he killed it by saying the 944 isn’t special, it’s literally a German Rx-7 fc, also it’s my first car I learned to drive in 😂
Honestly can empathize with James, I've yet to find a dream car to aspire to. I have plenty of cars I'd like to own, but nothing that screams "Its my life goal to get this car"
12:36 YES! Lifelong car enthusiast here. My wife and I did the sports car as 3rd car thing (briefly 4 at a time). Always dreamed of that as a kid. Guess what... it's a HASSLE, and you don't enjoy it properly - like what Thomas found with his E46. We have 1 car now, and it's amazing (Lyft/Uber are great)! 100% convinced we'll always have 1 or 2 vehicles at a time - no more. Alfaholics is one of my 2 dream vehicles! Official dream garage: Rivian R1T and Alfaholics GTA-R Widebody
These videos of you talking on the sofa are so f-ing nice and cozy, I wish you'd make them more often! Kinda like a podcast, but without the stupid microphones in your faces, the sound is great as it is!
Love the fireside chat format fellas. My take, I love the C8 for the bandwidth it provides as a GT with a top off, comfortable ride and lots of space. But then it can also handle track days and is quite happy there (albeit with a couple upgrades if you decide to dive deeper). Its my pick in my two car strategy, the daily being a Cadillac ATS 6MT w/LSD, tuned the car is amazing and I love that Alpha chassis. Both cars I couldnt be happier with, great to hear your takes on it all. Keep er up!
The candles really make this throttle house a throttle home
😂😂😂
Well done. Well done.
☠️
Wait actually I think rather than naming this "Extra Throttle House" they should have named it, as you said, "Throttle Home" 😂😂
YOU WIN!
45 minutes of James and Thomas just talking about their cars? Yes please 😁
Exactly. This is what I didn't know I needed. Awesome video. 💪😃
@@TwistedTriggerEnduro unsought product. check it out (marketing concepts)
Was that 45 minutes?? I wasn't even paying attention it felt like 20, I need to get back to work!
@@desertsavagery 🤣 did you watch the adventure series yet? Amazing. So proud of these guys and thankful for great content. Thomas had a moment back when he drove the bac mono and in the adventure series James had one. Sharing how grateful they are for having the opportunity to create this content and make it their 'job'. I'm grateful we get to enjoy it ♥️
And it looked like it had no cuts in the filming. Just them talking non-stop about the things we all love. So good!
I'm sure you guys have enough work as it is. That being said, you guys could make a killer podcast.
I can't agree more honestly I'd listen to every single one
I would LOVE a podcast by them!
I would love that
Even just a podcast file for these kinds of videos would be great so i can slot them in a podcast queue while driving
A "drop it whenever" podcast from these guys would be amazing. That being said, this is an even better version of that
I'm glad you guys are self-aware of the loss of that "sense of wonder" that normal enthusiasts have around cars. No one gets to drive all the best cars like you guys do, so there really is a mystique around a lot of fun cars, especially ones that aren't just seen driving around. I'm a college student who loves Audi, so I drive an A4. I am so attracted to things like the RS5 and R8 because I genuinely can't imagine the driving experience. I think that's something a lot of youtubers/journalists lose sight of. Seeing reviewers sit with a straight face and act bored in 300+ HP cars is so disheartening, because it shows how different their perspective really is from the average enthusiast.
Facts bro
I’ve always said a party in a car starts at 3-350hp
Pure facts
The B8.5 Audi RS5 would be my dream car hands down
My dream car is the E46 M3, which for Thomas was available and easy to buy. He worked hard to get where he is now but as mentioned, they lose that sense
This was great! 44 minutes of 2 guys just talking about cars...no hype...no ranting...and one take. I'd like one of these per month, please.
James, you already have your dream car. A 2016 Miata, the amount of time you bring it up shows how much you like/love it.
A video about car ownership?? Probably my favorite video you’ve ever made. This and the LFA video! Thank you!
The production value on the LFA and GT video were crazy, absolutely took it to the next level and blew my mind
2013 audi rs5 best one ever hands down
I love this. Two car guys just sitting and talking about their cars, dream cars, and actually (kind of almost) attainable dream cars. It’s the same conversation I’d have with my car enthusiast friends.
I’ve grown very fond of the Lexus LC500 myself. That car looks super classy and sharp for a sub $100K GT car, and that 5L sounds incredible
hard to justify against the competition so heavy too but sounds sick
I reckon it's only gonna go up in price like it's "predecessor" LFA.
@@excusemeforbeingsorry Definitely not a successor to LFA lmao, LC500 is not even a F car... it's a GT luxury coupe. Nice car though.
@Paul Hitchens jag? Lol yuck.
@@MrRandomTwat he didn’t say successor. He said predecessor. Not the same thing.
I’m with James, going with the Blackwing, manual/ lots of power/if you have kids-family they can fit ! This was a great way to enjoy a Saturday afternoon 👍
Agreed. Was my instant thought when James popped the question! Last year I would have said the E63 AMD wagon as well. Also, I really do like the upcoming Emira and looking at it as a possible replacement in the future for my Mustang GT. Maybe I am James??
I think this video is an excellent example that there should be an Extra, Extra Throttle House podcast
As an owner of an ND2 MX-5 RF GT, I have to say James is right on for all points. The community is great. And your only real “upgrade path” is a Lotus. Been eyeing the upcoming Emira myself… My winter/daily is a 4Runner though.
I’ve been eying mx-5 for a while.. I love the idea of a connected, light weight, fun car but I don’t know if I can settle for the lack of power. I know that sounds dumb but I have a tuned mk7 GTI that, while not a rocket, pulls so hard. I don’t know if I can lose that and still love it.
Evora’s are kind of out of range of what I want to pay for an occasional use car.
@@kc510 definitely depends on what roads u have I lived in canyons a miata or a brz86 will be better than choice than high hp cars
Or an Alfa Romeo 4C. I wouldn't buy one but I know a guy that has a NC Miata and one of those. He drove a Lotus as well and picked the 4C.
how about an S2000?
I have a 2013 Hyundai Sonata……I want basically any other car 😂 But if I’m being more specific I want a Honda Accord Sport 2.0T, BMW M2, and M340I. (Update) I now drive a 2017 330i and I love it! I’m glad to finally be part of the bimmer community!
@@layne4376 I didn’t mean all at the same time tho
Did you see the Elantra N 👀
@@ponymaner8660 I do really want to drive that! I just like the look of the Accord tho
These cars are attainable. Work hard and you will get them
Once you driven M2 you aren't gonna want any of the other cars lol I don't own these but I've driven all 3 of them and the m2 is the most special bang for your buck. (Not that is cheap)
I’m a one car at a time kinda guy. M2 competition is the only thing I have and the only car I expect to own for the next 5+ years. Apparently the autosolutions short shift kit is the one to buy for clicky shifts, but I haven’t done this mod yet.
100% agree. I always dreamed of the extra car thing... until I experienced it. Simplicity, and getting to enjoy a good vehicle every time you drive beats that every time. M2 is epic - cheers
I have a 2016 Audi S6, Stage 2. LOVE that car. Only thing I would replace it with (if I had infinite money) is an M5 CS.
RS 7 Stage 1 here and I am looking in the same direction. Im tired of paying the RS tax.
@@sandersonjd776 hahaha I feel that! I wish I could afford the RS7 AND the maintenance hahaha
I bought my S6 at 65k miles, I'm at 77k and have spent about $6K in mods and maintenance/repairs, which I do myself. The car is in a really good place now.
@@andrewsinger8842 this is why I got rid of my S6. But… I’d probably buy another one.
@@osiferrr I feel like almost every C7 Audi owner feels this way hahaha. It's love/hate sometimes.
Got a stock S5 B8.5 Cabrio. Tons of fun. Looking to go Stage 1 sometime in the future but for now it’s great. Love those DSG farts on upshift
The great thing about Thomas and James is that they seem like regular guys. Its also amazing that I would actually watch a video of two guys sitting on a couch talking about cars, says a lot…..
Thoroughly enjoyed this. I wish I could sit down with you guys and just blabber and debate about cars all day long. James, please don't ever get rid of the Miata. I did, and I regret it...
The "some youtubers can afford a GT" reference was not lost
Can we get an extended cut of this? I could listen to you guys talk cars for hours. Maybe a podcast???
Bruhh they should start podcasting
“Pale blue Dot” brought a tear to my eye!
Kudos to you guys for hiring a team and spreading the wealth. Rather have 10 friends in a $50,000 whips then my one half mill car for my self.
Ditto
The quality shows. I consume so much UA-cam and James and Thomas are up top with Mark and Jack. No one else even comes close to these four guys and I greatly appreciate the work and effort.
@@kc510 if you’re not watching Jason cammisa on hagerty you are seriously missing out
@@justinl5747 oh I do, and listen to his podcast. I guess I just think of him as being in a different category.
I mean this in all seriousness. you 2 need your own car show WITH your entire team. your reviews are always spot on and honest. The comedy you 2 bring is always well placed. The Edits give me nostalgia vibes from classic top gear. Its Cinematic, well put together, with just enough messing around.
I got through this entire video thinking is was like 15 minutes. It went by so fast!
Loved this content. It was PEAK car guy. Had me pausing and searching and guessing your picks before you said them. Excellent choices, gents. Well done!
Carmudgeon-grade chemistry and brilliance. Cammisa and "The Hyphen" Tam-Scott would be proud. I love this so much. Thank you and please do more.
I think Cammisa and James would have legendary chemistry
Ive been wanting a vid like this forever. Could listen to u two talking cars for an hour
James....sounds like you had your 4 year adventure with the Lotus in all of about 2 minutes and your back with your Miata...welcome back!
People generally don’t come back to an mx5 after owning a lotus.
@@ChapHammersmith True...those two are vastly different when it comes to performance, but unfortunately, reliability as well.
My first car was an 86 944, I wish I still had it. It was so fun, handled so fantastically!
The shortest 44 minutes on UA-cam.
James, what happened to the “I tried to make it last longer” (or something similar to that)?
We-Want-More!
Silly comment aside, greetings from Greece!
You make exceptional videos - be that “extra” or not - which are definitely a Must-Watch.
Wish lists are a beloved game, dating back to childhood.
Since men remain children, wish lists go on forever!
Now, I am more of a rider than a driver (I love cars but only had one, so far),
but there are no less than a dozen of cars I would love to have.
Down-to-earth personal Top3 would be: i20N, Type-R and Giulia Veloce.
If I had to…survive my wife’s nagging, the Top3 would probably be: Jazz, 308 and XC40.
Until then, long live my 2004…Panda!
i didnt realize it was 44 minutes until i read this comment
Hi my Greece brother! If time is not come for dream car and you want to change Panda you should try Suzuki Ignis. I bought one and it's so fun, even driving slow speeds. And it's practical, my wife likes it too.
@@TenSapphires Well…were I on the lookout for such a small car, Ignis would definitely be my pick. I have liked it ever since it came out and still has the edge over all other cars in its class!
@@MrBarchman Just try it ;)
The dinosaur piece back there is badass and I want it
35:51 - 35:58 i love that moment
Show of real friendship and really knowing one another
So funny and cool to see, it put a big smile on my face
Well I have a Volvo 850 Wagon and the only car I want more than mine is the 850 R Wagon :D
And the 850 was the reason why I found your main UA-cam Channel. Back then Thomas made a review of the 850 as a winter beater. Love you guys keep it up
I wonder whether the winter beater episode was my first one too, and also because I owned a 850! 💪😁
@@StormKleist how many kilometers or miles do you have on your speedo?
@@tobiaskaczmarek I had a bit over 500.000 km! 😁
@@tobiaskaczmarek I still have a 960 with 490k+ on the speedo, although with no plates on at the moment. 🥳
I have a V50 T5 AWD 6spd manual and would love to upgrade to a V60 Polestar in blue of course. Dreamcar would be a silver Carrera GT.
Yeah yeah the cars are cool but the T-Rex skull and the golden record from the Voyager behind you are sick! I want those.
Also, I see that vibrator charging in the background there :)
I have an m235i in a similar blue with red interior. Got it lightly used in place of a model 3 performance and man, despite the model 3 technically being faster, I do not regret that decision. Such an amazingly fun car to drive.
I have a 2jz swapped 190e and Thomas is right its surprisingly well balanced and really easy to swing the tail out and control it .
Wow sounds like a pretty cool swap, haven't heard of anything like it.
James just added another layer of likability with that Pale Blue Dot reference.
Totally 100% agree. As a huge fan of Carl Sagan myself, glad someone else noticed.
5:01 thank you for sharing this story and great piece of poetry james. i hadn’t heard of the pale blue dot until this
As an ND owner, I very much struggle with an upgrade path as well. Which partly comes from not having enough funds to spend triple the price on something else. Loved this discussion!
Lotus? Like a used Evora? Unless you’re really into the interior quality of Mazda
There is no upgrade path from a miata ND its peak fun for twisty roads only thing better is a air cooled 80's 911. Unless ur a heavy track guy, any car u replace the ND with will dissapoint no matter how much it costs. Thats why u should probably add a car instead of replace the ND
Lotus is not an upgrade path for ownership. You will find it impossible to find parts for long term and avoid driving it, unlike Miata.
Love the attitude of these guys.... not trying to be funny, they just are.... and it feels like having a chat with your next door neighbour over a beer. Bravo. Keep going
Maybe the best Extra to date. Great combination of information and entertainment. Call it infotainment. Hey, I just made up a new word.
Seriously, this is like a conversation some car guys might have over a couple of beers.
My car guy friends and I often have this conversation over a couple of beers. We all have different tastes and different goals, and it's fun to see where this takes them. It's also really fun when your friend picks something that makes you reconsider your own decision, like James did with the E63S.
Anyways, I highly recommend doing this with your friends. Carve out some time, grab some brews, and chop it up. You won't regret it. Cheers!
Ya bro - I flew through this with 2 glasses of scotch and it was one of the best things I've listened to in months. You're car content is unmatched on youtube - but I'd listen to you guys talking about cars for hours. Congrats on all you've EARNED, and keep up the awesome content.
Thomas, you own exactly the cars I would own, if I could afford them. From my perspective, great taste in cars, kudos sir! I have been watching since the E46 DIY stuff and it's unbelievable the progress made since those days! Congrats and looking forward to future content!
Thanks!
Ohhhhhhhhh. The pale blue dot reference knocked it out of the park.
I could definitely go for more of these videos every so often. I have a long commute, it's nice to be able to listen to this like a podcast. Plus, it's nice to hear you guys get to talk in a less structured forum
One of the many things I really love about Thomas and James is that they are real, normal, down-to-earth, gearheads. Thomas races in Lucky Dog, for example, which is one of the best, affordable, grass roots amateur series (which I participate in). There is no exotic hypercar crap in their garages nor in their dreams, unlike many UA-camrs. They drive and dream about mostly attainable stuff that most of us would be considering. Very relatable. Great series, guys and most excellent video.
I'm very fortunate to have found a terrific, affordable car in my Lexus GS430 3rd-gen. Comfy, crazy reliable, and enough driving dynamics to make my commute entertaining. That said, there is serious magic in dreaming of the 2022 BRZ/GR86, wondering what it's like to rip that little sucker to work.
Bro, the GS F is where it’s at.
@@AnontheGOAT Oh I know. It's just that GSFs cost over five times what I paid for my 430 so it's gonna take a while to save up 🤣
@@dawnpoint ya sucks they are so pricey. Mostly due to how little of them there are.
I am sitting here eating my boiled eggs, bagel, and cream cheese while drinking my coffee; watching this. All while procrastinating going to work. I am self-employed. However, I have better things to do than watching two guys chat on a couch about awesome cars. Buuuutttt, I'd rather watch guys sit on a couch and talk about awesome cars.😁 Great job, guys. Love your videos.
Big fan of your channel guys,from Botswana. Keep up the good work👍
😂 “i really want that” “the steering lacks…” “doesn’t matter, i really want that.” This was me finding my now owned 2023 BMW M240 RWD. I’m love her and it was all so unexpected. I still have my 2006 Evo IX that is my baby, but I needed something I could share with the wife that was still a beast.
Thank you for this content. I enjoy watching genuine dialog between people with experience. The practicality of your choices is both refreshing and reassuring that true car enthusiasts search for something beyond just the body and specs.
This should be a podcast. The long form discussions are way better in that format.
You two are the best dorkiest, nerdy, broloves, surrounded by candles I could watch all day.
I’m totally with James. Even though I haven’t actually driven all of the cars you guys have, no new car really draws any awe from me.
Maybe a 911 Turbo 4s for a daily? A Singer for some classic enjoyment?
Currently own my childhood dream car (a mint 2 door manual Jeep Wrangler) that I’ll have until the day I die, but I truly want a sports car. I have the jeep for nice weather, a work truck for work, my wife has an suv for road trips.. I need something completely impractical. And a bigger garage.
2013 Audi RS5!! james loved it i wish he got one :(
@@alalal123421 that thing sounded mean. I’d take one as well!
You two need to stop being so fking entertaining! hahaha. I'm trying to fall asleep listening to your conversations and you make it borderline impossible with me grinning and laughing in bed.
Thank you.
I love how Thomas brought up the 2.3-16 because it deserves more recognition, but also wish he didn’t because i wanna snag one before prices go up.
Appreciate him mentioning Jason Camissa too as he brings up some pretty good stuff.
this channel is drifting closer and closer to podcast territory and I love it
Yes Caterham. Thank you for finally bringing them into Throttle House canon. Only driven one once for a short time but it gets under your skin. I firmly believe for visceral driving experience no one does a roadster like the British. The only one I consider more than caterham would be a Morgan
Yes! A Morgan. Thought exactly the same.
@@nogbadthebad6294 👍🏼unfortunately we don't see many in Canada. Caterhams are a little easier to come by (for sale) and would likely have more track appeal
Had a 1983 190e 2.6 with a Cosworth body kit. Loved that car.
In late 2021 I finally attained my dream car- an F80 M3. Sure there are other nicer cars that I would love to have, but I think it’s very similar to what James said about diminishing returns, and working yourself to death to get the “next/newer/nicer” car. The F80 is already a very expensive car to me (especially in this current climate where everything has went up in price). I think I’m at the top of what I think is reasonable for myself- especially considering I’m not a good enough driver to even take full advantage of what the M3 can do. If anything, I need to spend money on some track lessons before considering a “faster” car.
P.S. - you guys need to do a video on the F80. You’ve done every other M3. Compare the new G80 to the F80 like you did with the cheapest E9x vs G80 video. Would love to see that. Keep up the great work!
Same here with my Lexus GS F. A lot faster more capable performance sedans out there but this one is special in its own ways. Too bad these guys never tested it either and instead did the RCF.
@@AnontheGOAT a gs f is not an f80 m3 though lol definitely not in the same caliber like a dream car
@@alalal123421 absolutely is. I’d love to hear why not. Just because it’s not as fast doesn’t mean it’s not in the same caliber. More rare, more expensive, and more exclusive.
@@alalal123421 it is true, it’s not an M3. It’s better. More rare. Wayyyy more reliable. Better interior. Better engine ten fold. N/A V8 vs hot turbo I6? Come on now.
Man congrats those f80 m3s are lethal lol
Love the Carl Sagan reference! This earth needs more people like him.
Hell ya. I just went with the E63s. Love it as a daily. Absolute blast even in Saskatchewan winters.
I really liked this segment. It's interesting to see what guys who review/drive cars for a living have in their own garages. I also enjoy the vibe between the two of you that makes it real and engaging. Great work on this and on the main site. Thanks.
Just want to say thanks for the content guys. This year I got a failed spinal fusion and cancer from all the x rays n scans and then my car blew up and had to get rid of it. And hard to find a dec sports car on disability. Your content keeps my spirits up and hope to see you dudes around the streets of the GTA to get some merch autographed and a pic. Oh maybe a test between Genesis G70 v Infiniti Q60s 🤙👍🤙👍🤙
Keep your spirits up friend. In 2010 I lost half of my right leg to an IED in Afghanistan and sold a motorcycle and a manual trans car I had at the time. Deep depression afterward, but keeping a positive mental attitude is paramount. I too want to meet the guys, but I want them to autograph my chest…..it’s a rock concert thing.
@@gouldnj thank you for your service sir. Seems like you have to really appreciate driving something that puts a smile on your face and be quite a physical person to understand how stressful it can be.
I was thoroughly entertained listening to the discussion for 45 minutes, and it feels like you guys discuss your real enthusiast feelings in a very honest, transparent way that doesn't feel intimidating. Your environment feels very inviting and warm for enthusiasts to sit down and talk about cars and makes me want to have something like that in my life.
Also, James put down a deposit on the Lotus Emira, or so he told us in a later video, so feels like he was already contemplating this choice for a while... Organic content. Love you guys (as automotive journalists and vloggers, obviously).
I wish you guys the best!! And i hope you guys wishes come true!! Follow your dreams!!! Best car review channel!!
3:20 i would love to see an extra throttle house road trip debrief on this channel! talk is through the process of keeping a $50,000 CAD AE86 and full restoring the beams engine. tell us what’s next for the volkswagon rabbit gti, maybe a supercharger is in order to keep parity with the 86? Thomas did mention in episode 1 of the road trip that his rabbit didn’t really have *that* special of an engine (unlike his current Alfa Romeos featured here). 3:20 man his spaghetti’s itb’s sound amazing!
Brilliant as always gents! OG M2 still wins my heart every time too. 👌
Awww Jame's puppy is so old. Enjoy him/ her while they are around bro. ❤
Love the format ! Please, in your busy schedule, do more of these too :D
Best car channel, and my all time favorite. So fun but sophisticated and downright genuine. Thank you!
If you guys made a podcast it would be the only one I would proudly listen to! Awesome video as always!
12:41 This really struck a chord. Even with just two "fun" cars, I feel terrible letting one sit, so I combined both into one single car. I might get a boring dedicated daily to go alongside it, but never >1 fun car again unless it's a dedicated track-only car.
I would love a second car, just can't justify the expensive of a car that just sits most of the time. Picked up a cheap, 20 year old motorcycle instead. Less guilt with the super low price tag and super cheap insurance.
Excellent conversation! I’m currently in a 2020 WRX premium and heavily contemplating what my next jump up will be. M2 has been on the radar for a long time, but this new lotus makes me feel funny in the pants lol. Unfortunately driving them both and then deciding will likely not happen.
Lotus would likely cost the same as a properly loaded cayman GTS 4.0 or a GT4. It’s just like buying a corvette in the UK but in reverse. I was shopping between the new g80 m3 xdrive, lotus evora, and cayman gts 4.0. In the end the Porsche made a lot more sense to me purely from a price perspective and went with it (still waiting for my allocation).
@@k.w5804 So I am here in Tennessee, Corvettes and Porsche‘s are literally everywhere. But Lotus are very rare. It just checks all of the boxes for me.
@@ColtCapperrune Yeah in North America lotus is definitely rarer no matter where you are. You should be able to test drive one at least the evora. 11/10 fun car but imo not something you want to daily.
I drive a 2016 WRX and that M2 is pretty sweet, looking at a Supra or a used C7 Z06 if I can find one in a good price!
@@Gandalf721 Thanks for all the valuable financial advice lol. I didn’t say when I was trying to buy, just trying to figure out what the next car will be. But I appreciate your suggestions, and adding to the conversation…
This video was just a delight. You both come across as such personable, fun guys who just love cars. Especially enjoyed James's explanation of his plate on the Miata, such a cool reason for a custom plate. Keep up the fantastic work, look forward to more videos of you two just talking about cars!
I've loved you guys for a couple of years now. Hilarious...down to earth...intelligent...spot on with your reviews and assessments and balance. But James naming his MX-5 in honor of Carl Sagan...your stock just jumped to the top of the car journalist heap. It almost...almost makes me want to trade in my BRZ for the MX-5. If I only liked...at all...convertibles.
Extra Throttle House makes me very happy before I go to work.
I'm with James on the restomod dream car, there's nothing like a well executed blend of classic, soulful style and modern engineering. My dream car is MZR Roadsports' Datsun 240Z and it's even got a dream car pricetag. There's nothing I want more, which is going to be tough news for my kid. Anyone know what a white baby goes for these days?
Mine is a GT3 RS. My second though is a Shelby Daytona Coupe. The company that does the parts for the Cobra that Thomas and James drove in an episode does the parts for the Daytona Coupe so you can do your own.
@First Last nice. only raptor ive been in was the one my dad got while his mustang was getting fixed up. they’re nice asl. if i were to get a truck i’d prolly go with something crazy and get a super snake
Not much unfortunately, these days they're ALL waycst.....
A 240z with an rb26… mmm.
B7 AUDI RS5 COME ON JAMESSSS
I really enjoyed the discussion and it’s obvious you two are not snobby or pretentious at all.
I currently drive an M340i and my aspirational car is a Taycan.
What a great conversation - cars mixed with real life. Thanks guys!
James' Miata is gorgeous and I love it. Also I'm pretty sure those rims are up there for the most beautiful factory rims of the past twenty years.
This was brilliant. You should do a podcast every now and again 👍
I never thought I'd enjoy watching 2 dudes just talking about their cars and their dream cars...
I feel a spiritual connection to James.
Fun car is a modded Fiesta ST. Daily is an Audi Q3.
Thank you for the memory to start this off. I owned a 69 Alfa Spider with SPICA and loved it. Traded it in when I was in the Navy for something with more room to carry stuff when going from duty station to duty station. I have yet to live down that mistake. Before I die, I hope to own another Alfa Spider...
I kept my '92 NA Miata and added a Boxster Spyder. I love them both but I cant say the Spyder is multiple X's better than the Miata. Faster, yes, corners better, sounds better, but overall I still will never give up the Miata. Do not get rid of your Miata
Can’t believe I just watched this.. and enjoyed it. Facial expressions are so entertaining lol
A Lotus can be a nice replacement for the Miata. They are very fun cars and I think they cost less than a 718 spider.
its next best because we dont get the Alpine a110 here in NA
Sounds like James wants a Alpine a110, it is basically a blend between a Miata and a Porsche gt4. Here in Europe the Alpine a110 is considered a superior car to the Porsche (according to reviews) and best of all, it is less expensive, but i'm not shure if it is avalible in the US or Canada. (Please be considerate of my spelling, not a native english speaker)
Unfortunately the Alpine a110 is not available the US or Canada.
@@bolt5564 Well that’s sad, otherwise it sounded like it ticked all the boxes James had for the perfect Miata replacement. Wouldn’t you agree?
I actually watched all this, you guys are great! I never watch videos this long 😁
Love this format, basically a podcast (y’all should do one). Could we get a video on your origins and how Throttle House came to be?
Thomas your other license plate needs to be MEATBALL!!!! You all need to do an updated video of this annually please!!!!
You guys need to check out a channel called Homebuilt by Jeff - he's building an Alfa 105 with a Ferrari 360 V8 - forget about the GTA-R. Another great episode fellas, can't think of two other guys i'd listen to for 44 mins without skipping! 👍👍👍
I have a new love for James after finding out why his license plate is 4 Sagan and about his pale blue dot Miata, I wasn’t alive to have witnessed Sagan in his intellectual glory but the videos I have on UA-cam show a man who truly cared about the world and the next generations ❤
Edit:then he killed it by saying the 944 isn’t special, it’s literally a German Rx-7 fc, also it’s my first car I learned to drive in 😂
Honestly can empathize with James, I've yet to find a dream car to aspire to. I have plenty of cars I'd like to own, but nothing that screams "Its my life goal to get this car"
Omg...the brown leather glove driving the old Alfa. Thomas is so cheeky.
Question for James, what about an S2000? High revving, roadster, relatively light and not stupidly expensive yet.
Plus slightly more masculine than a Miata
@@BongRipsForDayz If you're buying a car based on masculinity, you're doing it completely wrong
12:36 YES! Lifelong car enthusiast here. My wife and I did the sports car as 3rd car thing (briefly 4 at a time). Always dreamed of that as a kid. Guess what... it's a HASSLE, and you don't enjoy it properly - like what Thomas found with his E46. We have 1 car now, and it's amazing (Lyft/Uber are great)! 100% convinced we'll always have 1 or 2 vehicles at a time - no more. Alfaholics is one of my 2 dream vehicles! Official dream garage: Rivian R1T and Alfaholics GTA-R Widebody
These videos of you talking on the sofa are so f-ing nice and cozy, I wish you'd make them more often! Kinda like a podcast, but without the stupid microphones in your faces, the sound is great as it is!
Agree 100%! 👍
Love the fireside chat format fellas. My take, I love the C8 for the bandwidth it provides as a GT with a top off, comfortable ride and lots of space. But then it can also handle track days and is quite happy there (albeit with a couple upgrades if you decide to dive deeper). Its my pick in my two car strategy, the daily being a Cadillac ATS 6MT w/LSD, tuned the car is amazing and I love that Alpha chassis. Both cars I couldnt be happier with, great to hear your takes on it all. Keep er up!
Sitting here waiting for them to talk about the B8.5 RS5. Rewatched the video yesterday. Just skipped to all the parts about the old RS5.
this is great just to listen to during work. Nothing better than thomas and james
The Sagan love just makes me like you guys even more!