Snip Cinema i am from england, we do not have walmart, but everyone associates cheap supermarkets with walmart, which is american, so it is easy for everyone to understand if you just use walmart. and if you do not know what walmart is, you are most probably lying
Fuching hell man i didnt even suspect something like this. I go on twitch and see massan constantly like 15k viewers which is constantly so much more than the next top person and it turns out its all bullshit.
+Krzysiekoy It costs them money because you have to watch an ad before you can watch a VOD. But I think Massan mainly deletes them so nobody else but him can use his footage for his youtube channel
Thanks Massan for deleting all your VOD's. FeelsBadMan From someone in the comment section; the moment MaSsan showed his ad revenue - oddshot.tv/shot/massansc-20151130132041201 Also shoutout to the plebs in chat spamming Hey Wizardpoker
I didnt really realize till now how much editing goes into this video highlights until after watching a couple of your latest ones. Thank you based WizardPoker for your time to show us these
How are you uploading these highlight so fast, do you watch like, watch every stream? Or you have friends that watch the streams and inform you whenever there is something good? Anyway thanks for the upload! :D
+Roman Xxl MrDestructoid. Haha no but seriously, I run this thing by myself. It takes like 25 hours a week in total I think. And I enjoy watching Twitch streams, that helps a lot :)
+Jani Heikkonen it shows that even if massan has way more viewers than reckful, their ad revenue is almost the same ($2,552.96 for reckful vs $2,661.27 for massan). It's not important the graph, just the number on top of it.
I'm surprised ANYONE could stand to watch Massan for more than a few minutes Question is why doesn't twitch do anything about it? considering viewbots don't generate any money
Dahlius Well Massan is just doing his Thing, not disturbing anyone and just Streaming, while you're on the side of the jealous Reckful who seems to have some Kind of inferiority complex or something. Otherwise he wouldn't feel the Need to compare himself to others to try to feel superior.
+Technoman Thats the point. A few months ago before kripp moved with a new schedule he changed his streaming schedule to the time where literally no one is really streaming
It's not jealousy it's anger because Massan doesn't deserve all the sponsors he gets because he's is cheating his way to the top and lying. You're a dumb fuck.
Unrelated, but does anyone know the name of the donation tracker Reckful uses under his cam there? I'm a new streamer, and I really like that tracker, but I'm unsure what it is.
+YamatoXion Viewer: Kappa Kappa 123 Streamer: Ugh, I hate Kappa! please stop donating me money with the Kappa message. Ugh! Viewer: XD time to do the exact opposite of what he said, I'm really sticking it to him now!
+Ruz Money? If there's a guy siphoning viewers from other streamers, because he's the top stream then he costs everybody else money with shady tactics.
This video would be so much better if you actually puts clips of MaSsan's stream in too so we had the conversation instead of it being entirely reckful's stream.
I would understand the concern if Massan wasn't entertaining and he still got that many viewers, but he is funny and has genuine reactions, I don't see why he shouldn't have as many viewers. The only evidence Reckful is presenting is that his chat moves faster than Massan's. That can mean a lot of things. I think the biggest reason Reckful's chat was faster was because Reckful was doing something interesting while Massan was just playing Hearthstone as always.
+MrHappy You said the only evidence that he presented was the speed of the chat, but did you watch the video? He literally showed the analytics of his channel that prove he gets less viewers than he should.
I thought streamers make way more money than that. I mean 4k every month (600 subs = 1.5k, 2.5k ad revenue) is a lot but that is nowhere close to the revenue earned by famous youtubers. Many streamers have claimed that they could earn as much money as famous youtubers if they're famous.
I'm the first person that ever subbed to massan, back in the days when he was pulling like 100 viewers on average and played starcraft... Sucks to see this now...
I had actually been wondering this myself lately. I stoped watching Massan a few months ago because every time I turn on his channel he is crying about losing. In fact, its become rather commonplace for most of the top twitch HS streamers to sit there and act all superior when they get lucky and win a match, and then cry the very next game when their opponent does the same thing. Massan has just gotten very bad about this.
+TheAznZeus Talk about bad personality, I don't think forsen or anyone is anywhere as bad as reckful, it's astonishing that you can't tell, unless you just didn't want to say it, and if you want to talk about cheating, reckful piloted in WoW and got PERMA BANNED, he also said it himself that he viewbotted before long ago when he was still streaming WoW
Watching Massan is like watching the Walmart version of Amaz
+Balderino Kripperino haha
Ok, please elaborate to the non US viewers. thanks!
Snip Cinema i am from england, we do not have walmart, but everyone associates cheap supermarkets with walmart, which is american, so it is easy for everyone to understand if you just use walmart.
and if you do not know what walmart is, you are most probably lying
+Balderino Kripperino wrong channel bro
+Balderino Kripperino What no Amaz is total garbage smh
Reckful top detective PogChamp
+Cristian Rodriguez I love how your profile pic sort of looks like 'PogChamp'
+Cristian Rodriguez reckC
Chuii reckful top jew
Fuching hell man i didnt even suspect something like this. I go on twitch and see massan constantly like 15k viewers which is constantly so much more than the next top person and it turns out its all bullshit.
+fuckoffgoogle I just got into hearthstone and twitch so I wouldn't know anything that happened before this
+Yash Saini It was like this for awhile with him. His was the most blatant of all the streamers on twitch.
+Yash Saini Couldn't you tell his chats are always dead?
I don't know shit about ad revenue or Twitch tv. But when someone deletes particular VODs on purpose you know shit's fishy.
+Krzysiekoy It costs them money because you have to watch an ad before you can watch a VOD. But I think Massan mainly deletes them so nobody else but him can use his footage for his youtube channel
+Krzysiekoy apparently he never keeps VODs (see his reply to WizardPoker's comment above)
+Smokestacks oh, then that;s different. I thought he deleted only this one.
+GeeZee causation does imply causation scrub
back when legends were exposing viewbotters. Respect
Thanks Massan for deleting all your VOD's. FeelsBadMan
From someone in the comment section; the moment MaSsan showed his ad revenue - oddshot.tv/shot/massansc-20151130132041201
Also shoutout to the plebs in chat spamming Hey Wizardpoker
I was afraid the massan robots took you away forever BibleThump
+WizardPoker MrDestructoid
What is VOD?
What a little asian pusspuss he is..
+Ryan Ianaro Video on demand ( = recorded stream in this case)
I remember watching this live. Rip
Who ?
Me 2. Things were simple back in the day
I miss him man.. so sad to see how mental health ruined him. Makes me motivated to keep myself from bad thoughts like he had
once again WizardPoker is on point. Nice upload man, love this twitch drama lolol
Hearthstone drama best drama
Super advanced Korean Technology
For glorious leader, Massan must remain on top of twitch!
+Agent Camtho That guy is so cringy. I cant believe anyone would take a stand for him. He is obnoxious.
+Fra Fre >That guy is so cringy.
So is Rekt-fool. So is sKripp. So is Amaz. Really, the only good streamer is Trump.
Gabu - San Trump Sub?! DansGame
I didnt really realize till now how much editing goes into this video highlights until after watching a couple of your latest ones. Thank you based WizardPoker for your time to show us these
Theres actually the "we got him" song playing in the Background wtf 7:50
now i want to see massan's pov xD he got recked
he deleted the vod EleGiggle
+Tack Can we get a reaction of Massan PogChamp
+Quibli What does VOD stand for?
***** Video On Demand. Watching a stream after it happens
MrDestructoid Reporting for duty MrDestructoid
RIP the legend.
this is why I sub to you, couldn't find any info on this right after it happened, and I felt left out. Thank you WizardPoker FeelsGoodMan
RIP Reckful
Gonna miss him, RIP.
*B33P B00P* "Nothing to see here." *B33P B00P*
-- MrDestructoid
How are you uploading these highlight so fast, do you watch like, watch every stream? Or you have friends that watch the streams and inform you whenever there is something good? Anyway thanks for the upload! :D
+Roman Xxl I'm a wizard. And I know nothing of oompa loompa dwarves in my basement.
Ahhh, making excuses! Roleplaying Massan? KappaRoss
+Roman Xxl MrDestructoid. Haha no but seriously, I run this thing by myself. It takes like 25 hours a week in total I think. And I enjoy watching Twitch streams, that helps a lot :)
+WizardPoker Thanks for putting in so much effort for us :D
+SacredxDynasty Yeah. thanks oompa loompas, for your continued unsung efforts.
Taken from chat: imgur.com/iUXEsWQ
oddshot.tv/shot/massansc-20151130132041201
+Adriano Voltolini Thanks, I will add this in the description
+Adriano Voltolini Check ur skype lel
+Adriano Voltolini V I E W B O T S
+Adriano Voltolini what does that graph show/proof? I don't get it.
+Jani Heikkonen it shows that even if massan has way more viewers than reckful, their ad revenue is almost the same ($2,552.96 for reckful vs $2,661.27 for massan). It's not important the graph, just the number on top of it.
I'm surprised ANYONE could stand to watch Massan for more than a few minutes
Question is why doesn't twitch do anything about it? considering viewbots don't generate any money
+Dahlius So you actually consider this as Video as proof? I am very sorry for you.
+Jonas Goebel says the guy subscribed to his youtube channel
Dahlius Well Massan is just doing his Thing, not disturbing anyone and just Streaming, while you're on the side of the jealous Reckful who seems to have some Kind of inferiority complex or something. Otherwise he wouldn't feel the Need to compare himself to others to try to feel superior.
+Jonas Goebel Butthurt fanboy
+Zedd0z I am just stating the facts. I am Not a fanboy at all. I like Massan and watch him from time to time.
Whoever does the captions for these videos I love you
I LOVE HOW WE GOT RICKROLLED AND NO ONE EVEN NOTICED.
Reckful, truly a streamer that deserves his name!
This is why I love Reckful's stream, his honesty regarding all the stupidity on the site is so great.
I am forced to watch Massan when nobody good is streaming ResidentSleeper
+Technoman The worst about Massan is his shitty SMOrc voice impressions. Top quality cringe right there DansGame
Trump is best for singing quality
+Technoman Thats the point. A few months ago before kripp moved with a new schedule he changed his streaming schedule to the time where literally no one is really streaming
+Patronino Kripperino No Forsen? DansGame
+Askus Pollo Forsen is like really annoying. His community is shit as well.
I just subbed, you have been blessed by the Meme_Machine.
+Meme Machine lean mean meming machine gone sexual (2015) (GOOOONE SEXUAL) (2015 BEST GOOF AND GAFFS COMPILATION)
keep it up, proud of you
Wow Ethan, great move keep it up proud of you.
you smot
barney.mdl
2:00 song's name is OMFG-Hello
MaSsan ResidentSleeper MingLee
Wait. I thought it is against twitch policy to show or even talk about how many subscribers one has or how much money one makes on twitch, is it not?
I fucking love this channel. The subtitles kill me.
Does anyone have footage of massas's stream when this was going on? I'm really curious to see what he was saying
what kind of meme song playlist did he have in the background
Does anyone have a VOD of massan's stream during said time? Thanks :D
You may want to post the vod of Massan countering Reckfuls arguments. You know to do both fair :D
+Nonamee377 Massan deleted his vods , because he knows he fucked up ;)
I wonder do people running adblock count? because that's lot of viewers not counting
I hate jealous pricks that try to spread rumors of other ppl just to make themselves feel better
Yeah Reckful's jealousy is just reeking throughout this video LOL. Especially with how much time he spends talking about this
+Nuke Hotdog (Nuclearhotdog) but he just proved his statement
It's not jealousy it's anger because Massan doesn't deserve all the sponsors he gets because he's is cheating his way to the top and lying. You're a dumb fuck.
What about people who run adblockers? Wouldn't that influence the results?
0:29 built in youtube captions actually put "KappaPride" after the word gay, but you have to watch the video from the beginning for it to show.
Watching Massan is just watching a guy saying ''Hang in there'' for 8 hours
no one can stop detective reckful
The start ad doesnt go if you have Adblock, or does it still count?
Unrelated, but does anyone know the name of the donation tracker Reckful uses under his cam there? I'm a new streamer, and I really like that tracker, but I'm unsure what it is.
6:36 Subtitles
Sneeze sound = 4Head?!??!?!?!
Anybody know's the name of the song in the background in the beggining
Captain Jack might be the one you're looking for
+Chico2622 Caramelldansen (swedish original)
+Chico2622 Song is called Caramelldansen by Caramell, there's a Swedish and English version, sounds like he's listening to the Swedish version.
+Chico2622 darude - sandstorm OpieOP
was it 2.5k for the 1 ad he runned while streaming or is it the whole month income with the ppl tuning in and get the auto ad
massan got rekt, watching his vod in the description confirmed it. Viewbots confirmed MrDestructoid
The sad, desperate world of streaming.
Most of the time they throw loose change so they can get the attention of fellow Twitch users or piss the streamer off. Extra sad.
+YamatoXion Viewer: Kappa Kappa 123
Streamer: Ugh, I hate Kappa! please stop donating me money with the Kappa message. Ugh!
Viewer: XD time to do the exact opposite of what he said, I'm really sticking it to him now!
man I wish we had drama like this today, fucking new twitch era sucks
Reckful sucks too now. Just a fucking weeb.
@@jpetras16 bro is dead
Rip Rekful
Maybe he has "Sub only chat" or "Slow mode" ?
"I'm not banned, I can do whatever I want" LuL
whats the name of the song at 2:10?
does twitch count bots into ad revenue if a streamer does run ads?
Can someone please direct me to the black reaction video at 2:26 that shit is hilarious
He's not a terrible streamer tbh but there's no place for viewbots on a platform many live off of.
this video sounds like my taxi driver yesterday complaining about Uber.
This video was too dank... this is gonna be in my Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 montage. No one will stop me...
Cool vid, good luck!
What about when Reckful had something that showed how many actual viewers Massan had? It was like 4k out of 16k viewers..
you should make a video on massan's pov of this
Maybe chat isn't going very fast because they are interested in watching his stream
people who care more about others progress and success usually end up failing in life.
Why is this Reckful guy concerned with the activity of another user? I'm not trolling, I'm asking. What does he gain by burying this other guy/girl?
+Ruz Money? If there's a guy siphoning viewers from other streamers, because he's the top stream then he costs everybody else money with shady tactics.
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+Te do You're right. I am. That's why I asked the question. To learn and understand it better.
what is the first song on stream in this video? o:
need to know it qwq
The biggest exposure rip legend
Adblock removes some revenue though, right? So the top channel on Twitch probably has more adblock users.
Why do you have a pic of mr destructoid from destructoid.com in the thumb?
2.5k ad revenue for showing no ads o_O? wow and some of my friends work for 700 euros a month.
Wait is reckful Swedish because he sang "Hej då pappa ha det bra" and sometimes he listen to Swedish music like in the beginning of this video.
Hey WizardPoker can you please make the captions before you upload the video kthxbye
track at 2:40 pls
+waldquellz OMFG-Hello
Crazy to see that just from people popping into his stream he got 2.5k in a month
didnt massan make a thread about being viewbotted ... like not actually doing it to himself ?
lots of material went into RadioKappa from here XD
Why do u have swedish fjortis music on backround wtfff ???
Why was this reoploaded?
what about people who use ad blocker?
Why Massfuck is not banned from Twitch yet?
I like your profile picture +WizardPoker
Have to admit it was fishy with 15k+ views with open chat yet the speed of it was quite slow.
what if his viewers have ad block
This video would be so much better if you actually puts clips of MaSsan's stream in too so we had the conversation instead of it being entirely reckful's stream.
I bet this still did absolutely zero damage to his channel, and I'm sure he has 100 White knights ready to back him up.
I would understand the concern if Massan wasn't entertaining and he still got that many viewers, but he is funny and has genuine reactions, I don't see why he shouldn't have as many viewers. The only evidence Reckful is presenting is that his chat moves faster than Massan's. That can mean a lot of things. I think the biggest reason Reckful's chat was faster was because Reckful was doing something interesting while Massan was just playing Hearthstone as always.
+MrHappy Actually his argument was that Massan's ad revenue is almost the same as Reckful's, yet Massan has a lot more viewers.
+MrHappy " genuine reactions" lol
+MrHappy nice try massan
MrDestructoid Friendly Massant bot detected! MrDestructoid
+MrHappy You said the only evidence that he presented was the speed of the chat, but did you watch the video? He literally showed the analytics of his channel that prove he gets less viewers than he should.
MrDestructoid FeelsViewBotMan
Did massan ever actually do anything bad or do people just hate him for the view botting?
youtube caption knows the emotes... love it.
Man, the good old days...
Cant get more sad than this ...
I thought streamers make way more money than that. I mean 4k every month (600 subs = 1.5k, 2.5k ad revenue) is a lot but that is nowhere close to the revenue earned by famous youtubers. Many streamers have claimed that they could earn as much money as famous youtubers if they're famous.
They also get donations bro
Thats without running any ads and also they get donations and sponsors also the subs they get.
I'm the first person that ever subbed to massan, back in the days when he was pulling like 100 viewers on average and played starcraft... Sucks to see this now...
i cant find massans channel lol did he delete?
did reckful get in trouble for shoing his ad revenue? i thought that was a breach in contract?
I had actually been wondering this myself lately. I stoped watching Massan a few months ago because every time I turn on his channel he is crying about losing. In fact, its become rather commonplace for most of the top twitch HS streamers to sit there and act all superior when they get lucky and win a match, and then cry the very next game when their opponent does the same thing. Massan has just gotten very bad about this.
It's really not against tos? That's interesting
Holy shit Reckful has some fire music in his streams
The nostalgia............................... :'(
i dont watch much streams at all but masan got exposed. Forsen may have a bad personality but he dosent cheat
+TheAznZeus Talk about bad personality, I don't think forsen or anyone is anywhere as bad as reckful, it's astonishing that you can't tell, unless you just didn't want to say it, and if you want to talk about cheating, reckful piloted in WoW and got PERMA BANNED, he also said it himself that he viewbotted before long ago when he was still streaming WoW