Fat Mike - On Nirvana - Supermarket with Dave Grohl - Getting a Loan for 20k to Put out EP -
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2022
- Fat Mike from NOFX joins the Tuna on Toast Podcast with Stryker.
Mike tells Stryker about the loan he got for 20k helped finance The Longest Line EP.
Mike talks about gaining confidence in the music scene.
Fat Mike tells Stryker about the first time he heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana.
He also talks about the time he almost went to Amoeba Records with krist Novoselic and the time he ran into Dave Grohl at a Supermarket!
Thanks for watching!
Fat Mike and Joey Cape sitting in a volvo hearing Nirvana for the first time is the only crossover universe I care about.
I would never ever think I'd hear Mike admit that Nirvana are a good band let alone be a fan. Respect
Lagwagon to me is the best punk rock band of all time NoFX is basically just as good and in some ways better.
Dude I was thinking the same thing!
Cool to hear the impact of Nirvana debuting on Mike’s path, never would have correlated the two.
To be honest, Nirvana had an impact on everything that could have fallen under the alternative umbrella, including punk. They had impact on bands that were around even before them--just like Mike said, it opened up opportunities to bands and whole genres that weren't previously accessible. They were a big deal.
punk rockers love nirvana, it's the metalheads that hate nirvana, hahaha....
@@oxrjbizzle1984y 😆 yup
Yep, all makes sense, thanks!
Well Nirvana was also a punk band marketed as grunge/ alternative.
Around the first week of September, 1991, I was at a party with my friend who was a DJ at a local college radio station. They had a promo of Nevermind which he had borrowed. We walked out to his car and the first track he put on was "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I was mind blown. I had been listening to Bleach since it came out - loved the cover of Love Buzz. I expected more Melvins type rock. Instead, it was like hearing The White Album, Led Zep IV or Hendrix for the first time as a young teenager. World changing experience.
Two months later, I went into basic training and lost contact with the world. Four weeks in, we went to the PX for Christmas gifts to send home to our families. There was Nevermind sitting at number one on the music rack - at the post exchange - in the US Army. Mind blown again! What a time to live.
Cool. I think all of us from that generation have a similar story.
i was in the back seat of my friends ford escort in Wales UK on the way to a night out drinking and we put the cassette in the player and we never made it to the pub instead we pulled up at a local beach and smoked joints all night whilst listening to nevermind instead, one of my favourite memories.
It’s the little things
One of the best teen spirit stories so far in this comment section. Nirvana has this kind of power, I can't explain but I can relate to your story.
That's an awesome way to spend your evening.
I was a courier in Toronto driving my Nissan micra down queen street west in 91 and CFNY announced this new song about to be played. I had to pull over I was so jaw dropped after the first verse. Life changing as a punk musician of 20 years old at the time. 🤘✌️❤️🇨🇦
Nirvana really changed everything
It shaped me. Thats why im a dick.
Hahaha.
So did Green Day’s Dookie then closely followed by Smash. Punk had a real moment in the mid nineties
First heard Nevermind at a friends sleep over birthday party in 7th grade. One of the other kids had bought him the cassette for his birthday and at night when we were all in sleeping bags he put it on. I was blown away, I'd never listened to an album where every song was like the best song I've ever heard. They'll never be another album that hits like that.
I was in 8th grade.. summer B4 starting 9th grade..
@@jasonbastian9901 that’s not a place
I hope you’re wrong, Jeshua.
@@shugarbage 😂
@@shugarbage It takes up way too much of my memory not to be.
it's still crazy hearing mike do real interviews. I feel like he was sandbagging for years
He’s wearing clown shoes though but I feel you.
hes sand bagging here too
Sand bagging?
He didn’t do interviews for years after music journo printed that Nofx “hate their fans” which of course he or the band never said.
I distinctly remember hearing Smells Like Teen Spirit...I was in my older cousins room and he was like check this out and gave me his copy of Nevermind before he left to go out with his girl, I put it on his excellent sound system and after that opening 4 chords changed my life right then and there
Must've been a cool time period/era, crazy how impactful those 4 powerchords sound/feel to the listener. The tight drumming & deep bassline all just mesh so well
@@jamesvancam everyone was invited to the party back then. Your coolness would be judged at the party. So everyone wanted invited again so they were cool. We shared the experiences and noone was taking glamour shots to validate themselves.
@@hounddog3476 are you referring to the 90's/Grunge era of music? I can't quite understand what u mean or trying to convey...
I was watching MTV in the late 90s, I was around 10yo when BAM! Smells like teen spirit. Changed my life forever. Dropped everything and music became the most important thing.
I was in my cousins bedroom hanging out on Christmas. He played teen spirit. I never heard anything like it. Changed my life completely
It was really neat to get some first hand perspective on how exactly Nirvana paired with the CD era impacted the playing field for punk and alternative rock!
I just realized, I also do remember where I was when I heard Smells like teen spirit on the radio for the first time. It was in the kitchen of my mum when this old 70's brown Telefunken Radio just released that tune. I remember thinking: now everything will change. It was such a surprise to hear a song like that on the radio.
I was in third grade and my friend brought nevermind in to show me at recess. I'll never forget it, I even remember where i was standing in the playground.
One of the greatest live concerts I've ever seen was In Montreal watching NOFX play the Decline live , after they said they would never play it live. Started off the performance with a 20 minute song that im sure every one in the "Industry" said not oi do but every fuckin kid in the audience knew every single word of that song and sand along like it was Sunday at Choire with the father watching. Then they went on to play like 20 more 3 minute songs
After school at home turning on MTV, and there it was. Once it finished once stayed on until heavy rotation brought it back.
I bought "The Longest Line" way back in the day. Hearing that little back story, I'm glad I did!
I’ve bin on a nofx binge for the past week, reliving my 2006 punk rock days with the gang. Omg he is right punk rock is about having fun and true success is about how much fun you have.
I remember where I was too, kinda. I used to go to a club with my dad to play soccer, swim at the pool and all, and I got Nevermind to listen to in the car, and that really hits me right then and there. But I probably listend to that specific song , smells like teen spirit, some time before on radio.
“I was in a Volvo with Joey cape.”
I was very young, 7 years old, I don't remember exactly when I listened to the song, my dad listens to old rock/blues and didn't like music from the 90s very much, but I remember that he listened to the track "in bloom" a lot, somehow he liked that song and this one it was the first song I remember. In utero I already have greater memories, I was already a child turned to oldies rock (like my father) but I liked punk and later I started skateboarding, so in the explosion of 94 I met the california punk that I listened to over the years follow. I remember hearing from Nofx, Pennywise, No use for a name, green day, even Blink's dude ranch, and it was in 99 that this scene became even more pop with enema of state, I preferred the old bands to the new generation that would arrive in the 21st century, but I must admit that I was a teenager and listened to everything related to punk. Today, more mature, I remember punk/pop punk/melodic punk (I still listen to it) with affection and nostalgia for a phase of my life. It seems that the old blues/rock bands from the 50's to 70's that my father listened to, dominated me in the long run.
I was like.. 8 when Teen Spirit came out, and I remember my first time hearing it. Crazy.
I remember the first time I heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was through my older brother. I was in 7th grade and he had bought the CD single and he would listen to that song over and over. He was out one day and through being sneaky, I discovered there were two other songs on the CD - "Even in his Youth" and "Aneurism". I liked and listened to those two tracks more than SLTS. I still think that SLTS is one of the weaker Nirvana songs, but I can appreciate what it did.
wow... i remember where i was when i heard smells like teen spirit! wooooah. so many good memories!!! made my day!
Mike being honest. Yes, without Nirvana, NOFX, Rancid, The Offspring, basically all of the SoCal punk bands would likely have stayed underground. And, because of that, all the great bands that the aforementioned bands took under their wings or put out on their indy labels would likely have stayed unknown.
Nirvana just happened to be the one that broke but there really was this growing underground scene that was just waiting to burst. For example Social Distortion had signed to a major label by 1990. Jane's Addiction were quite popular by then as well and then there was the first Lollapalooza tour in the summer of 1991 shortly before "Nevermind" came out. A lot was happening that set the stage for Nirvana who were the right band at the right time.
@@oldschoolpunkguy1 you’re right. Nirvana was just the first band that was actually good enough to cause the breakthrough into mainstream music. They could appeal to almost anyone. There’s no way a joke band like NOFX or the Offspring was going to be able to do it on their own. Pretty Fly for a White Guy? Not exactly ground breaking music that will continue to touch people for generations to come. But it got lots of airplay that’s good for the band. Those bands were just fortunate enough to be around when it happened. They were obviously never going to be as popular as Nirvana still is but if you play something on the radio enough times some people start assuming it must be good and these are the listeners/fans bands like NOFX and the Offspring were able to gain through Nirvana’s breakthrough. Nirvana made people realize there were entire music scenes/genres that weren’t being played on the radio and made them more open to hearing other types of music. Some good. Some bad. Am I glad more people were introduced to music like punk and ska in the 90s? Yes. Am I glad it was through bands like NOFX and the Offspring or Save Ferris and the Mighty Bosstones? Eh.
@@craigcampbell1843 Where did I personally mention NOFX or The Offspring?
@@oldschoolpunkguy1 you didn’t mention Save Ferris or the Mighty Bosstones either but they’re all part of the discussion. They’re appropriate to bring up. Especially given the comment and video you responded to. I was just responding to what you’d said with my own words and thoughts on the matter. You made it sound like you think the climate was such that basically any underground band at the time could have caused the breakthrough into mainstream and I’m saying I don’t think that’s true. The public might have been ready to hear something new but it was still going to take the right band to do it. Most punk and pop punk bands weren’t really very good and only had the following they had because they were “punk”. Nirvana was on another level and those other bands were just fortunate enough to be in the right place and time when they broke through to ride their coattails and get some fleeting mainstream success themselves. Those other bands are still around and still play shows but their mainstream success has gone away because they’re just not that good or because they’re so weird or different they can’t appeal to the masses. I love Jane’s Addiction but I couldn’t tell you the last time I heard them on the radio. They were all just the new thing to check out in the 90s. Nirvana hasn’t put out an album in decades but people still listen to them and cover their music every day.
@@craigcampbell1843 All I was saying is is that Nirvana didn't happen in a void. There was a vibrant alternative scene and they were a part of it, they certainly didn't view themselves as above it. You seem to think I'm putting them down or something and I'm not. I saw Nirvana a couple of times and they were great. So were a lot of other bands at the time whether the public at large was aware of them or not.
Yep, I remember when I was a kid probably 13yo and I heard Nevermind, immediately went to the record store and asked "what else do you have like this?" Dude handed me Ribbed. Hooked for life.
Mike is my punk rock hero since I was 8
I was four, and can remember my mom, her guitar playing boyfriend, and myself racing to his parents house to watch the world premiere of SLTS on MTV's 120 minutes on their gigantic 90's big screen and sound system. It melted my face, and blew my young mind. I started drumming on anything, and everything until I got my first toy drum set that Christmas. Long live Dave Grohl.
Awesome interview!!
I just keep looking at Mike's shoes. Good ol' Fat Mike. One of a kind
yeah, real "unique" to wear clown shoes.... so edgy... and drinking Liquid Death like millions of others... It's all about marketing and making the almighty dollar... lol. it's hilarious to read these comments and see all the ass kissing, idol worshipping of this pompous blow-hard. just enjoy the music, and stop with the over the top adulation... step outside your insular little world and experience life in all its glory. I'm sure he's just like everyone else and is an asshole, jerk, snob on his "bad days"....
P.S. Mother Theresa was a religious bigot...
I remember listening to Nevermind in my cousins basement on cassette tape. It was a big deal... but not earth shattering to me. I listened to a lot of Sonic Youth and Pixies before that. Maybe that's why. Great album though. I think I appreciate it more now than I did back then.
I saw kyuss open for white zombie and Danzig in 1990, I also remember where I was at when I first heard Smells Like Teen Spirit. It was a Friday night I was a freshman in high school and we're going to a high school football game and my best friend had the radio on and it started playing and it was kind of like "hey this is not that bad", we actually didn't listen to the radio but for some reason he had it on
I don't remember where I was when I first heard Teen Spirit, but I remember buying Nevermind on cassette after school in WHSmiths and coming home and playing it. Still have that original copy. I play it on planes before take off in a walkman to calm me down before the death defying experience starts.
NOFX one of the greatest punk bands ever
"Those are the people you remember...tall people."🤣
my first nofx album was on tape and i still have it!
*”Where were you when you heard Smells Like Teen Spirit?”*
I was on a cruise ship in the Caribbean and I wanted to impress this girl from New York. She was listening to Nirvana and I just happened to ask, “what are you listening to?” She put the headphones on and pressed play and Smells Like Teen came blasting through.
I remember saying to her, “I don’t get it.”
Her response, ‘And you never will.’
I ended up buying the tape after but, that’s still the coldest thing anyone has ever said to me.
1st time i heard SLTS was in the year 1999 when i was like 15 or 16, sat down next to a buddy of mine on the school bus, he has a cd walkman on, so i asked him what he was listening too, he said nirvana, i was like... who? He's was like wtf, you don't know nirvana? I was like, nope... so he put the earphones on my ears and played the 1st track of the cd and it was SLTS, it friggen blew my brains out and changed my life right there! I grew out my hair, started smoking, didn't care about school anymore and bought a guitar and just got infatuated with it all... ohhh and started listening to punk and metal music because if Nirvana
Similar story here. First time I was introduced to Nirvana was when I transferred to a new middle school, a kid my brother befriended was a skater kid and he was sporting From the Muddy Banks of Wishka shirt, my jaw dropped. I became a fan by the bands image alone. I was a late bloomer as far as Nirvana goes. I used to listen to those 90's dance and hip hop songs all the time that that's all I knew. Never had cable cause my mom was religious and shit. One day in 1998 I'm in my room and I was listening to the radio and the station that played that song had never played it before or after, it was just that one time. I heard the song and ended up buying the cassette. Changed my life and picked up guitar because of Kurt and Billie Joe of green day. Cool that someone around my age didn't know who Nirvana was like everyone else did.
I know exactly where I was when I heard teen spirit. It was amazing.
I was backstage at the Rock Against Bush tour in Portland and as me and buddy were watching NOFX play, we felt a huge presence towering over us. It was Krist Novaselic standing with a girl and taking pulls off a cheap bottle of red wine. My buddy is about 6’5” and Krist seemed giant compared to him.
somebody 2 inches taller seemed giant compared to him? that is not a huge height difference lol.
@@David_Downs maybe Krist is taller then 6'7 or maybe his friend is lying about being 6'5
When I first heard SLTS, I was in a group home in Prince George, BC, 1993, 11 years old. Saw the video on MuchMusic.
Clown shoes fashion choice FTW! I remember Fat Mike in the NC triad area back on the Punk in Drublic tour.
Such a punk "gentleman". No what I mean?! Wink wink nudge nudge : )
I remember Strung Out playing a show the Cops shut down at my bands old warehouse practice spot after the booked venue flaked.
I remember Snuff playing at local house kegger with horn players on the freakin' roof for the same flaky venue reasons.
Punk scenes, regardless of the demographics back in the early to late 90's & early 2000's, had this sort of diabolically twisted P.L.U.R. aspect towards one another. Especially embarking on the road pre-social sleaze media.
We had each other, and it wasn't perfect.
Hell, I got hooked on speed and sluts, but there was definitely something important and magical for that time period that I honestly feel the scene should get back to.
"Less is more" and
Don't fix it in the mix.
Mistakes intentionally left in the mix are what makes Punk Rock such a vital human experience IMO.
"Warts & all" as they say...
"Sonic Perfection" doesn't exist, and if you fake it?
You end up sounding like a plastic boy band Velveeta Poser IMO.
AKA Machine Gun Kelly.🤢🤮🤧🤣
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Gabba Gabba Hey"
Oi Oi...
👉👌💩🤎💀
Gotta respect the guys from NOFX. I was at warped tour, and they threw out $5000 into the crowd. The crowd disappointed me when they started tearing bills out of each other’s hands.
Sounds lame…
Saw em Cleveland Warp '98. Nautica. Bad Religion. OMG, so many.
Dang Mike! You looking good! Good on you- like the styles playa
3:56 ...and The Dwarves! And those last few words were the most important. Love The Dwarves!
Im from Portugal...we use to kind of speak well the English language, understand it and all that...and of course if you see vids and things from bands you know their correct names and all that...but it took me around 25 years to learn, from a random Fat Mike's interview part, the correct way of saying Kyuss! Its kyuss, like you say the "i" alone! Amazing...Me and my friends who dig Kyuss allways said it like you say the "e" alone...thanks teacher Fat Mike, I guess...
I was on vacation in italy first time I heard it. We checked in to our hotel and my sister turned on the TV. It was on MTV.
No idea where i was when smells got out. i must be dumb, maybe just happy.
I was about to begin physical education class in school. I was in front of the gym sitting on a bench with a friend who liked to be seen as "the craziest-I-don't-give-a-fuck rocker" in the place and he wanted to show me why he loved heavy rock music so he brought a stereo and played the CD right there. That was my point of no return.
I just happened to see Nirvana and Melvins at an old club in Providence, RI called Club Babyhead on the day Nevermind hit the shelves in most markets. I thought they were sloppy and pretty terrible, but after they played "Smells Like Teen Spirit," I said to my friend, "They might have something there." Saw NOFX there a couple years later and the whole place was berserk.
“Those are the people you remember. Tall people.”
I was sitting in my living room watching MTV. My parents thought they had blocked MTV, but for some reason it just changed the channel it aired on (this is basic cable with 35? Channels). Nirvana is one of three bands I remember where I was. Op Ivy and Social D are the other two.
What's up Stryker...I remember when you hosted the superbowl party with Jimmy Eat world at the defunct Key club .back in the day ...that was a blast !...I
I was in 5th grade on a field trip to an amusement park and heard "Smells Like Teen Spirit" on a himalayas ride. I never paid much attention to music before that but it completely caught my attention and had me fascinated and changed my life.
I was in a middle school dance in 2003(?) when i hears Smells Like Teen Spirit, weird how it's true even like 10 years after it came out
“Yeah those are the people you remember…tall people…” hahaha
Shout out from Indonesia
I was 8 years old in Hayward California with my baby brother at the house of his friend who lived up the street. His friend's older brother (probably 5 years older than me) allowed us into his room and he put it on his boombox. I had that pre-chorus was stuck in my head for days! After the song was over, the kid's older brother let us hold the gun he was hiding under his bed, which was why we had asked to go in his room in the first place.
Oof Blue Oyster Cult is the shit.
Cities on flame, Astronomy, Flaming Telepaths, In Thee, I love the night... to name a few.
NOFX played Charleston WV in like 1990
I got the CD for Christmas. I put it in my portable CD player wired into my a Chevy S 10 Blazer via a tape cassette adapter. Yeah…remember those? Anyhow, I listened to the CD on the way to the Six Flags Over Georgia end of the year party. Still have that CD in its original case and yes, I still play it from the CD from time to time. 🤗
My friend drives a 1992 Mazda 323 and it requires the tape cassette adapter (when we’re not listening to tapes)
I'm probably not one of the people he remembers, but I'll never forget waking up to Mike sleeping on my couch still wearing his sunglasses. Medford Oregon 1994ish
NOFX is underrated
Thank you thats nice..😅
Almost met with Nirvana! Wow!!!!
I saw Smashing Pumpkins when Gish and Nevermind came out. Billy Corgan said something about Smells like Team Spirit sounding like Godzilla.
I mean how I could forget the moment I first heard nevermind
I've heard Weird Al's "Smells like Nirvana" before I've heard the original, but I remember where I was exactly
i never liked smells like teen spirit but drain you is what blew my mind lol
Smells like teen spirit did for me when I first saw it on mtv until I bought the album. The whole album blew my mind. Nearly every track is a banger there isn’t many albums that have that. Not To me anyway.
I thought I was the only one who remembers where I was when I heard Smells Like Teen Spirit... I was in school vacations at my older sister house in a balcony and I 13 and it inmediately became a personal soundtrack for me... heard it on the public radio
Tucson represent!!!
TUCSON!!!
In 4th grade i got punk in drublic and nevermind. Makes sense to me 🤘🤙👍
Listened for that Godzilla comparison, yeah sort of for me, in some different angle almost in reverse sort of way.
I even remember where somebody told me about it before I even heard it.
Nofx played with kyuss that is awesome
Cokie The Clown is best gimmick ever.
School trip disco. Wrote Nivana on my arm the next day in marker. Then someone pointed out there was an r.
NOFX played in Santa Maria, at the VFW, all of the windows were broken out of the building. Next KYUSS opened opened for NOFX at the Anaconda in Isla Vista. I have Smelly’s stick from that show. He threw it right at me, it hit the face of the female in front of me. Superb Memories Excellent shows.
Kyuss and Nofx on the same night? Whoa!
Aww man, I love Obese Micheal
Kyuss Dwarves and NOFX… DAMN YOU WISCONSIN!!!!
There's a lot more of this kind of history in the Nofx book 'hepatitis bathtub', well worth reading.
I was in the same place I was whenever a new song dropped, playing in my living room with MTV playing in the background.
In Bloom had more of an impact on me. That drumming.
That song is so lush and heavy. Probably their best. Nirvana buried entire genres.
I need to know where mike got those shoes!!!
Mike's a leprechaun i love it
"Thats who you remember....tall people"
First time seeing this channel and just gotta ask. Why of all the things in all the world, is there a copy of Burnout 3 sitting on the shelf?
I was the voice of CRASH FM🤘🏻
I was in the Navy, in the middle of packing to leave the base and go back to the civilian world. I heard Teen Spirit on the radio and immediately took a walk to the base commissary to buy the album. As I walked out, I jumped over a little wall and landed in a hole and twisted my ankle, leaving my wife to pack almost the entire house by herself.
first heard smells like teen spirit in a blank tape together with rem losing my religion, when I heard smells like, I thought it was an alien sound!
Qué grande este Sabina. Un groso.
Boarding school in Sydney Australia. They had just played at the big day out and a girl I went to school with turned me onto them in 1992.
i remember the 1st time i heard "NO!" by the sub-humanz.
Nice shoes, Mr. Burkett.
Haha! Supermarket get-together get down!
Fat Mike a Hero to Punk I SAW N IRVANA WHEN THEY WHERE NEW AT MILE SQare park with Joe Qalsh for free on a Memorial day I think Great ahow good time thanks Mike for telling me about it!
I heard Nevermind at my friend Joe's house at Dog Beach, San Diego. I picked my friend Mike up from Yosemite where he was working for the summer...drove him down to San Diego. Joe said their new album was good and played it for us. It of course blew up! The other album that blew up was Green Day's Dookie...but most people my age all said it was pop punk. Which it was. But yeah, flyers and posters everywhere...even on Haight Street! All those years ago!
Please do a podcast called Wicked Tuna on Troast around july 4th 2022
i was in 4th grade when i first heard teen spirit..i was at a friend's bbq and a kid was watching mtv in the living room
"Teen Spirit" reminded me of "Dead Souls" by Joy Division.