This Fire Pit Stand Is Insane - Ultra Powerful, Lightweight But Finicky

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  • This Fire Pit Stand is unlike any thing that I have seen before.
    It provides a ton of heat with little smoke and can burn wet wood that other fire pits can't!
    It's not perfect though but it's still awesome!
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    Fire Pit Stand Stats :
    Brand : Kikerike
    Versions :
    There are 3 fire stands that are being offered by this company :
    A 22 model which you see here
    A 16.5” Model
    And there is a tripod Version
    Materials : Stainless Steel, Alloy Steel, Cheap polyester case with plastic zippers
    Dimensions Stored : 13" x 3.6" x 3.6".
    Dimensions Set Up : 22” leg to leg, 16.9” tall
    Mesh Panel Measurements : 22” wide and long
    Mesh Thickness : .96mm heat-resistant mesh
    Weight capacity : I’m not 100% sure - the listing states two figures - 12lbs and 26lbs.
    Around 12lbs makes sense to me considering the size of this stove - even getting 12lbs of wood on this would be an achievement. Getting 26lbs of wood would be almost impossible.
    Weight : 1.8lbs with all of the components
    Price : $27 at the time of filming
    Set Up Time : 1 - 2 minutes
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  • @juanpack1
    @juanpack1 24 дні тому +17

    A friend of mine recently brought one of these on a camping trip to Scotland, when he got it out, I could feel my eyes rolling, it looked like it was going to fall apart within seconds, but it didn't, and the performance was amazing. I couldn't believe how well it worked, and like you said, it burns damp wood quite easily, with very little smoke, by the end of the first night I was converted, easily one of the best fire pits I've ever sat around.. Purchased one myself straight away, and have never looked back, a truly amazing product!

  • @youstatusbasstube
    @youstatusbasstube 25 днів тому +34

    Name: The Floating Fire Pit. Your videos are great and informative. The best to you.

    • @tomosharman1284
      @tomosharman1284 25 днів тому +6

      Like Luke's name for it, fire pit standy thing!!! 😂

  • @12BlockTokie
    @12BlockTokie 25 днів тому +21

    Utilize aluminum foil for a "squared circle" on the mesh prior to starting the fire. Make it a few inches smaller than the mesh and use it to "choke down on the amount of oxygen feeding the fire from below" and that will extend the burn time for you.
    ~ 12 Block Tokie ~
    Detroit, Michigan

    • @craig2795
      @craig2795 25 днів тому

      I like this idea. I have this stove and may just give it a try. As I said in my own comment, love the stove other than it burns through a lot of fuel quickly

    • @coryhoggatt7691
      @coryhoggatt7691 25 днів тому +2

      Defeats the purpose of raising the fire off the ground.

    • @ChrisRedfield--
      @ChrisRedfield-- 25 днів тому +1

      Just use sand, clay or rocks.

    • @philippek81
      @philippek81 25 днів тому +1

      I think that it's a good idea. No matter if it blocks the air coming from below. The air that comes from the sides is more than enough to keep the fire going. It also protects the mesh.

  • @Twistdflinx
    @Twistdflinx 25 днів тому +8

    We've used these for years. We've always called them a Fire stand.

  • @abedmellal2084
    @abedmellal2084 25 днів тому +6

    I call it "Raised Fire Pit" I got one 3 years ago from Amazon too, mine came with spare clips and 2 wire mesh, works great, no problems with it so far, the bag still works!! Over here we have what we call fire logs, they are used in open and closed fire places, they burn between 4 and 6 hrs, I use them for heat if there is no dead wood around, sometimes a combination of both, I get 4 hrs of heat out of one fire log and do my cooking on a trangia all under a tarp, never any issues, I also purchased a mat to go under the fire pit to protect the grass under it as it does burn the grass, as I do my best to leave no trace after me, so far I'm very happy with the raised fire pit which I paid €22 for. Great piece of kit👌

  • @blackfoot7925
    @blackfoot7925 25 днів тому +15

    Looks like a great product for snowy conditions, no need to dig out a fire pit plus the heat source sits a little higher warming you faster, for firewood I just use the dead branches of the trees around me, this product looks like a win to me.
    🇨🇦

  • @slackleashdogtraining3598
    @slackleashdogtraining3598 24 дні тому +2

    These TOGR vid’s are so professionally produced, in a good way. Authentic, instructional, and so well edited, tight. Thank you for not wasting time, but without a frenetic pace that lots of campers appreciate the easy slow down pace of the world. Makes me feel like I want to learn and then go try it.

  • @joelschauer2765
    @joelschauer2765 24 дні тому +2

    Fire Hammock

  • @lundrobin4421
    @lundrobin4421 25 днів тому +9

    I have had 1 for 5 tears and use it for my Leave No Trace training. niot so good in the wind. I live in Desert So Cal

  • @PaulC001
    @PaulC001 25 днів тому +3

    i've used fire stands like this before. i didn't use them to keep warm, i used them to get a fire burning hot, pour the contents in the actual fire pit and then i can cook. they're a fast way to get good coals going but don't rely om one solely for a "good" fire.

  • @hallscroft
    @hallscroft 25 днів тому +6

    Been using one of these in the UK for years! The mesh does deteriorate quite quickly, but you can buy a replacement 22" mesh for under a tenner.

  • @terrym1065
    @terrym1065 25 днів тому +7

    A lot of Japanese campers use these mesh fire stands. They keep the ash contained for easy removal which is a requirement in Japan. They also load them up with firewood, lots of split log wood and no problems with durability. Windy conditions would cause extreme caution. So many variations of these exist, which to choose is the hard part.

    • @DesertFox01
      @DesertFox01 24 дні тому +3

      Saw that on Laid back camp.

    • @Toubabou
      @Toubabou 24 дні тому +1

      Plenty of super cool camping gear in Japan especially with fire. With weak yen, prices are very good on Amazon Japan

  • @EricTheSwede
    @EricTheSwede 25 днів тому +13

    A Swedish outdoor channel I follow used these during his overnighters earlier this year and I was hooked. They're very good for the money as you can just buy 2-3 of them and not worry if they break!

  • @itlangstaff
    @itlangstaff 22 дні тому +1

    Great video, I’ve had this stove for about 3 years now and totally agree with your solid review 🙏🏻

  • @darinbatten1939
    @darinbatten1939 25 днів тому +2

    I’ve had one of these for 3 years and it is perfect for twig / small pieces and if the ground is wet or snow covered.

  • @craig2795
    @craig2795 25 днів тому +4

    I have this Stove and have been using it about once a month for the last 20months. I agree with all the pros and cons but have no problems with the cons other than yes it burns through a lot of material very fast compared with say my firebox stoves. That said I do like it a lot and I must be at around the 20 to 25 times used now and still no issues. Something I did add to it early on was to purchase a stand I picked up called the UCO Grilliput Portable Camping Grill which packs away tight I take out put together and stand on top of this stove. This allows me to grill things like stakes and sausages straight on the grill or throw a frying pan, pot or nesting cup on top and still keep this stove going well below it. Of all my stoves I take out, this is also the favourite one of my kids because it’s also more like a bonfire set up the can then roast marsh mellows over 👍 Lastly I agree about suitable for backpacking - I usually have used this when backpacking to a location but I have used it twice for a group car camp. When it comes to leave no trace, this thing is ideal and that is why I will always use this now rather than building a fire on the ground

    • @keithdorset3824
      @keithdorset3824 25 днів тому +1

      I've seen this style in Korean camping videos. They use them more for heat and evening ambience, not cooking. The English channels use something similar made of bulky sheet metal. Usually a fold up base and a fold up fire bowl. Lots of perforations, but not the air access of the mesh.

  • @kyfisher3662
    @kyfisher3662 10 днів тому

    i got this in australia for $18 on amazong and love it, i had a expensive $200 one but it took up too much storage space and this is just right for me.

  • @richardhenry1969
    @richardhenry1969 14 днів тому

    I have one i love it. Especially places that have fire restrictions on the ground.
    I like it's light cheap and packable.
    Plus they sell extra mesh.

  • @MikeycatOutdoors
    @MikeycatOutdoors 23 дні тому

    I purchased two stainless mesh firepits with a lil heftier build from Fireside Outdoor a couple of years ago. REI had one on display and I got two versions straight from the manufacturer. They're great for being portable enough to bring in somewhere if there's wet ground or an area they don't want the ground scorched.

  • @justinpedersen9519
    @justinpedersen9519 24 дні тому

    elevated fire pit

  • @bill4913
    @bill4913 25 днів тому +6

    Luke..Please make another review when the mesh needs replacing knowing the numbers of usage. Thanks for the video.

  • @mynitchu
    @mynitchu 24 дні тому

    We use these in aus, from personal experience not best for fire but coals for cooking is perfect

  • @user-kx9mt1kb5k
    @user-kx9mt1kb5k 25 днів тому +3

    Come On Baby Light My Fire ! ! !

  • @robertbaynham6909
    @robertbaynham6909 21 день тому

    I've been using one of these for the last year when there is no fire pit on the campsite pitch but you are allowed to have fire as long as you leave on trace. I put it on a insulated fire blanket to protect the ground and like you have been really in pressed with it although on my last camp there is a small hole in in the mesh after about 8 nights of use. But as a light weight way of having somewhere to have a fire and not totally burn the ground it works surprisingly well.

  • @johnmccoy2721
    @johnmccoy2721 25 днів тому +2

    I ordered 3 last week after seeing you use them :) Glad to see your review is favorable

  • @rlwings
    @rlwings 24 дні тому +1

    Certainly the "no walls" thing helps enhance the fire, but it's the air coming from the bottom (through the porous mesh) that is feeding most of the extra oxygen causing a strong updraft. Pit fires get no air from underneath but plenty from the sides.

  • @fairwind8222
    @fairwind8222 24 дні тому +2

    I’m not sure what I think of it….but I’m very interested. I just don’t know when or why I would use it.maybe a stealth camp. Heat up quickly , cool quickly, an$ leave no trace.

  • @DougHenryBuickGMC1
    @DougHenryBuickGMC1 25 днів тому +1

    I have one just like this and have used it in the backyard a few times. I used it last weekend with charcoal and was able to place my UCO grilliput on top of it to grill some stakes.
    I also am able to put a fire mat wrapped around the supports in the flimsy bag and have a much less anxious time about having a mesh firepit.

  • @MattEdwards1
    @MattEdwards1 25 днів тому

    Used mine for around 4 years, great fun little portable fire pit, excellent for cooking steaks too

  • @kramertime109
    @kramertime109 22 дні тому

    I use roofing nails to hang the screen on mine. Saves time and holds more secured

  • @Will-Parr
    @Will-Parr 24 дні тому

    Hi Luke, I just ordered one. On my one acre wooded lot, I have tons of small twigs and limbs. This looks about right to to help keep dispose of the mess. I can rake up piles then move the pit around. Nice video.

  • @chriscarson891
    @chriscarson891 25 днів тому +1

    I've been thinking about trying one of these, now I will. Thank you

  • @ryandavis8904
    @ryandavis8904 19 днів тому

    Love your videos! Keep doing what you’re doing!

  • @lindawoods6841
    @lindawoods6841 25 днів тому

    So impressed with that stove,, I would call it a Fire Stand.. love it..

  • @tommoxjr
    @tommoxjr 24 дні тому +1

    I love mine. I use it winter camping in Western Australia….we have total fire band about 6 months of the year, but I don’t camp so much then, anyway. Australian hardwoods like Jarrah burn really well on them. A bit of sand in the bottom of the mesh improves burn times and protects the mesh.

  • @ajs510
    @ajs510 24 дні тому +1

    This is the FireScreen

  • @playedinchina
    @playedinchina 24 дні тому

    I've had my eye on these for a while, so I'm glad to see you turned your attention to them. Now excuse me while I whip out my shopping app...

  • @taffdavies35
    @taffdavies35 24 дні тому

    Starting to be popular here in the uk

  • @morganwilliams8104
    @morganwilliams8104 25 днів тому +1

    Brilliant piece of kit, change the net clips for vine eyes. It’s a good mod.

  • @tsunamisitka
    @tsunamisitka 24 дні тому +1

    I bought one on sale from Amazon for $8 last year. I felt I couldn't go wrong at that price! It's been great. The campground firepits in coastal Oregon can be quite damp so I bought this mesh fire pit to get more air flow and avoid super smoky fires. It works perfectly.

  • @jinxiankue1376
    @jinxiankue1376 24 дні тому +1

    I bought one like that 3 or 4 years ago I really like.

  • @helblindibrock
    @helblindibrock 20 днів тому

    I love it! Never heard them before, definitely gonna look out for more by them. Sounds so early punk, it could easily be from the 70s. Cheers mate

  • @MrWipex
    @MrWipex 24 дні тому

    I got the exact same ”fire pit”. And I love it (!) for three reasons: no1 I can enjoy a fire pretty much anywhere since it leaves NO TRACE! No2 like you showed, it is possible to move it under the tarp if it starts to rain. No3 you can sit with your legs under it, and really warm up your feet and legs. I used it maybe 30 times now and it still holds up. For me, I always strive to leave no trace, at the same time I just love to build a fire. Many thanks for keeping it real and honest Luke! 👏👍🏻 cheers from Sweden.

  • @caryboozer6893
    @caryboozer6893 24 дні тому

    Luke you are truley professinal, better than anyone else doing this

  • @elainepace7726
    @elainepace7726 25 днів тому +3

    Fire pit hammock

  • @nelliemcdowell2575
    @nelliemcdowell2575 24 дні тому

    I like it. After watching this I want one.

  • @imspooky2024
    @imspooky2024 25 днів тому +2

    I like that you can take that anywhere. I have a beautiful fire pit in my backyard but you know it costs me almost a 100 . Where for $18 LOL you can have this one that you can put it anywhere and it's not gonna rust if you leave it out in the rain after a while.😮 And although my fire pit is beautiful with tiles and everything. It is already starting to rust. So
    I might be catching one of these. Thank you Luke

  • @ragequitpro9284
    @ragequitpro9284 25 днів тому +3

    It's a good idea I think it has room for improvement like a Pop up one? maybe.

  • @gmorrison1962
    @gmorrison1962 24 дні тому

    The elevated fire pit.

  • @hillbillyman52
    @hillbillyman52 24 дні тому

    Elevated Fire Pit

  • @RV-ardvark
    @RV-ardvark 24 дні тому

    Sounds like a good value for the performance.

  • @Love2Wander
    @Love2Wander 25 днів тому

    Interesting design will be looking into this. Stay safe and thanks for sharing

  • @nexus3d5
    @nexus3d5 25 днів тому +2

    lol, just got this a week ago. glad your doing a review on it. I think I paid ten bucks for mine.

  • @Rockwolf103
    @Rockwolf103 25 днів тому

    Hi Luke I bought one about a week ago and the instructions were on the box it came in,have a great one

  • @hollywaynewh
    @hollywaynewh 24 дні тому

    I can see this being a great item for winter camping where I go, where we have a lot of deep snow. Nice review

  • @shabingly
    @shabingly 24 дні тому

    We use ours for car camping where sites allow fires but must be raised off the ground. Much smaller pack size than most other raised firepits, and also cheap.

  • @TheRealAllenCrowe
    @TheRealAllenCrowe 24 дні тому

    I've been thinking of buying one of these. I think it would be great for wet conditions and I could easily use a tripod grill over it for cooking I think. Thanks for the review, Luke!

  • @KevinLynnPorter
    @KevinLynnPorter 24 дні тому

    I'm getting the tripod style one for sure. I've never tried cooking over fire using a dutch oven before, so this will be a great way to learn.

    • @nealhagood6792
      @nealhagood6792 22 дні тому

      Kevin, That type of hot fire is not conducive to most Dutch oven cooking. They typically work with hot coals for a steady even heat on the cast iron (and coals on the lid as well). There are some good method and recipes info sources out there for outdoor Dutch oven cooking! Not trying to dissuade you from trying, just wanted to provide a heads up!
      I was a Boy Scout leader for 12 yrs we did a LOT of Dutch oven meals. Breakfast, lunch, dinner and desserts ! GREAT, now I'm hungry! 😂

  • @Befread
    @Befread 25 днів тому +1

    If you set this on a fireproof mat to help distribute the weight like the Nemo Moonlite Elite Backpacking chair this would be great in the winter for camping in the snow.

  • @freezinweasle1
    @freezinweasle1 25 днів тому +4

    Thanks Luke. That would be pretty good for boondocking. Just clear out any debri from underneath and you are good to go.
    Stay safe and God bless.

  • @alivealive
    @alivealive 24 дні тому

    Japanese used this kind of stove for a long time. I seen this from Japanese Anime Yuru Camp . I would recommend you to watch this anime and maybe you will interest in camping in Japan.

  • @donh6177
    @donh6177 25 днів тому

    I've seen this in a few of your recent videos and have been looking forward to this review!

  • @justa.american8303
    @justa.american8303 25 днів тому

    Interesting product for snow, sand, overly rocky terrain, or during heavy rains. I am looking forward to more reports.

  • @GF-pc5bt
    @GF-pc5bt 13 днів тому

    I have one small compact and cheap …worth it in my opinion.

  • @Nytestealer0831
    @Nytestealer0831 25 днів тому +1

    i have the tripod type.. i like how it is hanging in air.. no problem lighting up even on wet camp i just put something over when its raining or foil around the frame.. but yeah, wood burns fast.. i use coal bricks instead for cooking.. you should try it as well..😉

  • @ObservingObservatory
    @ObservingObservatory 15 днів тому

    Interesting 👍

  • @trustbuster23
    @trustbuster23 24 дні тому +1

    I have looked at those things on and off for years, wondering if they were any good. Now that I've seen it in action, I suspect that Smokey the Bear is eventually going to give these the middle paw. In other words, it would not surprise me to see them eventually banned completely in the national forests, etc. All the air being fed in from the bottom of the fire is like leaving the door open on a wood stove, it is just going to stoke the heck out of the fire, continuously. That is great in snow or wet weather, but it also means it won't take much wind to make the thing incredibly dangerous in dry conditions. Some idiot is going to use one of these in conditions he shouldn't. He'll say "I never imagined that the fire could ever take off like that, that thing is unsafe" and that will be the end of that. Of course, it isn't an inherently unsafe design. But it does require a basic understanding of how fire works and some common sense. These days, that is probably too much to ask.

  • @LoneHowler
    @LoneHowler 25 днів тому

    I would not use around children, or in windy conditions. But I have been thinking of adding this to my camping supplies

  • @stephenbrown321
    @stephenbrown321 25 днів тому

    Fire Stand!

  • @GBtrucklady
    @GBtrucklady 24 дні тому

    I think it should be called Freddie the Fire Pit Thingy 😁

  • @Sandalphonn
    @Sandalphonn 24 дні тому

    Just bought one, or one like it for my little brother. Also got a fireproof mat for under it

  • @barnetts9812
    @barnetts9812 24 дні тому

    Couple of years ago, I considered this style of stove-pit...For my needs and at that time unknown concerns chose a plat pack desing.

  • @allendelarosa7891
    @allendelarosa7891 12 днів тому

    Had one of these. Lasted a couple years. The screws will fall off one by one and will need to be replaced because you’ll never find them again lol. And the mesh eventually melted through, leaving a giant hole

  • @scotthenderson1762
    @scotthenderson1762 25 днів тому

    Had mine arrive on Friday, ordered right after I caught your initial video using it. Different "brand" (Inchoco) but the exact same product down to the plastic zipper. Looking forward to using it this summer and fall.

  • @justanomaly3338
    @justanomaly3338 24 дні тому

    Fire hammock

  • @hordesCoffee
    @hordesCoffee 23 дні тому

    Above ground fire mesh. One issue I have, and it's tiny one. Say, you have friends that can't walk straight or you got a buzz from a reasonable amount of beer. Then, it might be tiny problem turn into a big problem! 🤔 then there's the down side. But, it would be good in some wet areas like monsoons or snow storms.

  • @philash824
    @philash824 24 дні тому

    I bought one from Wish 5 years ago. Mine is only 2 pieces, the stand and the mesh, takes less than a minute to set up and half of that is getting it out of the bag. For something from Wish it’s still going strong

  • @SBEARD12345
    @SBEARD12345 24 дні тому

    Fire table.. could be used to get stuff off wet ground or snow
    I have been using the smaller one

  • @jasonpullan488
    @jasonpullan488 23 дні тому

    Name idea, The Fire Stool

  • @larrymyers6327
    @larrymyers6327 25 днів тому +1

    Thanks again, I would call this a waste of time and money.

  • @kerryrigney3607
    @kerryrigney3607 24 дні тому

    Cheese Luke... I'm thinking about getting one of them and your video has been very helpful thank you sir.

  • @petert8931
    @petert8931 24 дні тому

    Wind is it's enemy. And, I know it's just for UA-cam ; but @9:15 ; with the amount of dry leaves on the ground - that "emergency situation" was 1 ember away from becaming a national fire incident.

  • @Aaronwaynemack
    @Aaronwaynemack 24 дні тому

    when you were breaking down the weights of wood i burst out laughing imaging over 20lbs on it lol

  • @SmithandWesson22A
    @SmithandWesson22A 24 дні тому

    Keeps your feet warm when put underneath

  • @stromback
    @stromback 24 дні тому

    I've been looking this product appear as a suggestion for me in social networks for a very long time, I was in doubt whether to buy it or not. Now it's confirmed, thanks, and it's only 9 dollars in my country

  • @jkpinpdx
    @jkpinpdx 24 дні тому

    Luke… Look up the Fire Maple version called: Sunset Ultralight Foldable Fire Pit Grill. It’s an PREMIUM version of these “mesh” style fire pits… I own 2 of them… ya THAT NICE, that I bought 2 of them. 👍🏽

  • @douglasfortune3307
    @douglasfortune3307 24 дні тому

    Great review, my only concern would be using this product in windy conditions but overall looks to be a good product at a good price.

  • @craydimpel9289
    @craydimpel9289 23 дні тому

    Can you even keep the fire calm and slow burning with so much airflow?

  • @michiganexplorer7945
    @michiganexplorer7945 23 дні тому

    I have the SOL folding fire pit and it works great. I would like to see what you think of it. I believe the actual name is SOL Packable Fire Pit.

  • @michaelwoodbury1788
    @michaelwoodbury1788 24 дні тому

    I have the 16 inch version. I use it to make pizza while camping. I use a shallow pan and start cooking the pizza over the fire, then slide it in under the fire for top heat. I do this a couple of times over 10 minutes or so.

  • @wontollamx
    @wontollamx 22 дні тому

    I will name it ELEVATED STOVE

  • @ReasontoLiveAdventures
    @ReasontoLiveAdventures 25 днів тому

    For the cost, I will definitely pick one up. 🤙

  • @nobodycares9201
    @nobodycares9201 25 днів тому

    In rain or snow, this gets the fire up and away from cold wet ground, allowing for complete combustion. Set under the high end of a tarp protects this pit from most of the elements but allows it tho burn well.

  • @Sentan555
    @Sentan555 16 днів тому

    i can't believe the mesh doesn't get too hot that it melts

  • @shawnr6117
    @shawnr6117 24 дні тому

    12 lbs is the weight limit of the 16" fire pit and 26 lbs is for the 22".

  • @Fingerhut101
    @Fingerhut101 24 дні тому

    On the fence....Luke your the Instructions...LoL😂

  • @BigMoneyPop
    @BigMoneyPop 25 днів тому

    Hey I went to Amazon and the 22 x 22 is 32.98 - went to their site and it directed me back to Amazon. Thought that was weird. But the difference between 26 and 33 I went ahead and ordered.
    Thanks Luke as always great review.

  • @shannonmcdonough6052
    @shannonmcdonough6052 14 днів тому

    Fire pit.

  • @lisahumble9620
    @lisahumble9620 23 дні тому

    Hi luke! 😊 my husband Bob and i are new to you're channel. We are both very entertained by you're videos and find them very informative. Keep them coming and be safe out there. BOB AND LISA HUMBLE. QUESTION: WHAT KIND OF CLOTHING ARE YOU WEARING IN YOU'RE VIDEOS, ESPECIALLY..WHAT TYPE OF PANTS DO YOU WEAR, AND WHAT DO THEY RUN RETAIL? SUSIE HAD A TYPE OF CARGO STYLE THAT I THINK CONVERTED TO SHORTS..WHAT BRAND DOES SHE WEARE PLEASE? COULD YOU DO A VIDIO ON OUT DOOR CLOTHING?

  • @DCS736
    @DCS736 21 день тому

    I like your vids and just subscribed. With that being said, you might want to experiment with numerous catch phrases. With that being said resonates like at the end of the day and boots on the ground. You are quite articulate, so I know you can say other words. With that being said, thanks for showing us this firepit.
    Could you possibly direct me to your presentation that contains the most with that being saids? I have an idea for a drinking game. Cheers.