As we already talked about, in my opinion its not as black and white as it may sound at first. Of course the design process of making a bag is very complex, and can take a lot of time and money, but there are possibilities to cut costs while still get a high quality, and depending on the effort one puts into the project, there can come out very great products. All big bag companies out there started with people who had to scratch their own itch and therefore made a product that served a purpose no other product could serve - specifically for these people. and as there are many other people on the world sharing the same problem, this can get very interesting. your opinion is always welcome, and I have to thank you deeply for this great video series. Especially for people who didnt come into close contact with the textile industry yet, this is a very valuable series.
Thanks, mate. I'm glad that you like the series. I agree with you : with the right dedication and some good contacts you could cut down costs of your first sample quite a bit. Nevertheless you still need some money. Even if you get materials for free, you need to pay the person that makes the sample or fly to the factory to discuss details. So there is still some budget needed. Furthermore, just like you I'd love to put as much dedication and time into such a project, which would make working my job and paying rent difficult. With all of this in mind to me such a project seems too big of a task. But maybe this changes in the future 😉
@@Youknowthebo Look Bo you might be able to get a gig on a bag like Chase Reeves who is just providing input on a bag but to be a real bag designer you have got to be able to build the bag yourself. That is the starting point.
@@mnmartin73 that's what I am doing now. Sewing various bags and considering if I make to order bags from my design. I know of other bag makers in Australia doing this and am looking into it.
My favorite company, the brown buffalo is a bag designer vet from all these legendary companies. He offers a one week class personal taught by him, I would highly recommend you take his class
I think it will be great if you work with one of the bag company to design your series of bags. You can give them the design input while the company will have the expertise to bring those ideas to live. I’m sure it will be great. Look forward to it.
thanks for this very informative and entertaining series, Bo. and a big shoutout to Roi, for sharing his time and knowledge. a great compromise for a bag would be 1. 30-35 liters(panel loader). 2. stand up on it's own. 3. edc/2-3 days travel/day hike.
I feel better now - I thought I was a bit obsessed with bags but now realize I'm not the only one! This series has been fascinating, and I'm glad to have discovered this channel. I'm currently on my 4th version (or maybe more...) of my perfect messenger bag. When you get near the end and you're already realizing what improvements you could make, then you think - is it worth finishing it as it's still not perfect? but I will....
Great information. This puts things in perspective for me. Not only will it take a year for me to get a bag made, but it will take even longer to get it on the shelves, anywhere.
Interesting video as always Bo. I actually designed my own backpack and went through a few manufacturers prototypes through Alibaba. It took probably 6-12 months from design to final prototype but it failed spectacularly on Kickstarter. Marketing is much more important that I anticipated but it was a great experience to go through the design and prototyping process. I will probably make a video on the process in the future if theres interest. I like your idea of partnering with an existing brand though. I'd probably choose Arcteryx and do an improved version of the Nomin Pack.
@@MrFlashback83 10,000 if I remember was for 1000 or maybe more, I cant remember the minimum. But yeah the more you order the less it costs, crazy as it sounds
@@PackingLess Ok so $10 seems a very good price. I'm very curious to hear more about your story. Did you made the video on the process? I had a look at your channel but didn't seem to find it.
Thank u for sharing with u your journey and experience. So many inputs and eye opening informations. I think no wonder company like fjallraven made bag using recycle material and keep the design as simple as possible but yet functional. Cuz of the cost and time.
hey bro! I still remember our conversation about makin' your own bag - I agree, it's a lot more efficient getting a brand that you like to collab with you ;) Great series, I loved watching each episode - this exp will defs help you in the bag niche as the authority man!! :)
i'm on the fence about getting a WANDRD PRVKE and i cant wait for your review on it, especially after carrying it extensively for this trip. Can i request for you to highlight the available space left after putting in the camera cube? And also, the recommendation for 21L vs 31L?
Hey Wei. I have just finished editing the review. You still have a bunch of space left at the top. Especially with the rolltop. In the 31l version I actually put the ronin sc gimbal, a big Trakke pouch with a bunch of stuff and my nano puff jacker inside the top compartment
Congrats for the channel and for your backp. Do you have suggestion for something similar to the HURU Discover H2 and the Peloton? I like how compact and nice looks the HURU but i don't like the black inside, I like the system of the peloton to carry voluminous packs but it's too large and not as good looking. Best, G
Hello Bo! I am writing you to sincerely ask what backpack you believe is the most complete to riding motorcycle in office context such us laptop, notebooks, mobility to ride, maybe a hook for the helmet? Thank you!
Hey Fred. I really like the attitude atd1 on my motorcycle. It's not a dedicated motorcycle backpack like the velomacchi rolltop for instance (which is also one of my recommendations on a bike). However, it is extremely versatile on and of the bike due to its clamshell and rolltop opening. There are a few caveats that you can see in my review, but nevertheless I used this probably the most on my bike
Nice episode for this Bo..very informative and detailed. Can you review either Nomatic backpack or Quiksilver Grenade? I would love to see your reviews on that. Keep rockin' Bo\m/
There is nothing stopping anyone from modifying the bag they have to suit their own needs better. Some customisation is easy but even then, may not work. Adding waist belts can be done on many bags even if the manufacture thinks the bag too small to include the option. Even a 15-17 litre bag full of tech gear can be very heavy when trekking around hills. Adding sternum straps probably will not work unless you can also change the shoulder straps. Adding internal organisation, even sewing in pockets or fixing up dividers to work with Velcro isn't too hard to do. Allowing pass through cables to charge tech on the go can also be done, particularly internally so as not to break any exterior water resistance the bag has. The nearer you can get to the optimium bag for your needs the less modification it would require to go a little further.
Good morning Bo, from California. Thank you for this fascinating look behind the scenes and for helping us better understand all the steps required to bring a bag to life. I think you should consider a Kickstarter of your own. You always give insightful reviews that impact us and how we think about using a bag we are considering purchasing, and you always raise the cons of a specific design or feature. You also have a platform, and followers. Personally I'd back you Danke!
A collaboration would make sense; with a team that have manufactured already. Many manufacturers already team up with interest groups during the design process and survey their existing customers.
Thanks, Jeff and Gerald. I'd love to work with a brand in the future to create a bag. But doing it all on my own would just be a too big of a project (in regards to time, budget and knowledge). However, I not completely disregarding the idea of my own Kickstarter. I just think that this is a big task that might has its time some time in the far future
As we already talked about, in my opinion its not as black and white as it may sound at first. Of course the design process of making a bag is very complex, and can take a lot of time and money, but there are possibilities to cut costs while still get a high quality, and depending on the effort one puts into the project, there can come out very great products. All big bag companies out there started with people who had to scratch their own itch and therefore made a product that served a purpose no other product could serve - specifically for these people. and as there are many other people on the world sharing the same problem, this can get very interesting. your opinion is always welcome, and I have to thank you deeply for this great video series. Especially for people who didnt come into close contact with the textile industry yet, this is a very valuable series.
Thanks, mate. I'm glad that you like the series. I agree with you : with the right dedication and some good contacts you could cut down costs of your first sample quite a bit. Nevertheless you still need some money. Even if you get materials for free, you need to pay the person that makes the sample or fly to the factory to discuss details. So there is still some budget needed.
Furthermore, just like you I'd love to put as much dedication and time into such a project, which would make working my job and paying rent difficult. With all of this in mind to me such a project seems too big of a task. But maybe this changes in the future 😉
@@Youknowthebo Look Bo you might be able to get a gig on a bag like Chase Reeves who is just providing input on a bag but to be a real bag designer you have got to be able to build the bag yourself. That is the starting point.
@@mnmartin73 that's what I am doing now. Sewing various bags and considering if I make to order bags from my design. I know of other bag makers in Australia doing this and am looking into it.
My favorite company, the brown buffalo is a bag designer vet from all these legendary companies. He offers a one week class personal taught by him, I would highly recommend you take his class
Would love to do one of these workshops. But I need to fly to the US for that. Could take awhile
@@Youknowthebo maybe do a collaboration! He's a really cool dude.
I think it will be great if you work with one of the bag company to design your series of bags. You can give them the design input while the company will have the expertise to bring those ideas to live. I’m sure it will be great. Look forward to it.
thanks for this very informative and entertaining series, Bo. and a big shoutout to Roi, for sharing his time and knowledge. a great compromise for a bag would be 1. 30-35 liters(panel loader). 2. stand up on it's own. 3. edc/2-3 days
travel/day hike.
Thanks, mate. Your compromise sounds good. But probably would be too big for a short person like me 😂
I feel better now - I thought I was a bit obsessed with bags but now realize I'm not the only one! This series has been fascinating, and I'm glad to have discovered this channel. I'm currently on my 4th version (or maybe more...) of my perfect messenger bag. When you get near the end and you're already realizing what improvements you could make, then you think - is it worth finishing it as it's still not perfect? but I will....
Happy to hear that you found my channel and like my content. There are quite a few bag enthusiasts. Welcome to the party 😉
Great information. This puts things in perspective for me. Not only will it take a year for me to get a bag made, but it will take even longer to get it on the shelves, anywhere.
Interesting video as always Bo. I actually designed my own backpack and went through a few manufacturers prototypes through Alibaba. It took probably 6-12 months from design to final prototype but it failed spectacularly on Kickstarter. Marketing is much more important that I anticipated but it was a great experience to go through the design and prototyping process. I will probably make a video on the process in the future if theres interest. I like your idea of partnering with an existing brand though. I'd probably choose Arcteryx and do an improved version of the Nomin Pack.
Hey, I’m very curious to know what budget you have spend for this prototyping. Are there any numbers you can share?
@@MrFlashback83 each prototype was around usd$100~ and a production run would have been about $10,000
@@PackingLess Thank you for the info! The $10,000 was for a MOQ of 500 like Bo has explained in his small documentary?
@@MrFlashback83 10,000 if I remember was for 1000 or maybe more, I cant remember the minimum. But yeah the more you order the less it costs, crazy as it sounds
@@PackingLess Ok so $10 seems a very good price. I'm very curious to hear more about your story. Did you made the video on the process? I had a look at your channel but didn't seem to find it.
Bo Ismono X Backpack Brand yes please!
Loved this video series. Very informative and lots of food for thought!
Thanks, Greg
Amazing Documentary! Watch all 6 episodes!!
Thank you very much ✌️😉
Outstanding set of videos!!!!
Thank you very much 😉 ✌️
@@Youknowthebo how can I contact the manufacturing info, if I wanna work with them?
Check out tasindo.com 👍
Appreciate the content and inspiration!
Thanks for watching ✌️😊
Thank u for sharing with u your journey and experience. So many inputs and eye opening informations. I think no wonder company like fjallraven made bag using recycle material and keep the design as simple as possible but yet functional. Cuz of the cost and time.
hey bro! I still remember our conversation about makin' your own bag - I agree, it's a lot more efficient getting a brand that you like to collab with you ;) Great series, I loved watching each episode - this exp will defs help you in the bag niche as the authority man!! :)
Thanks, mate. Really appreciate it. Let's do anothee video in the future if you like
Please make more videos about bags with more details.. Thank you 🌹💕
Thanks again for doing these bag making process videos. So awesome. I really want to get a bag made
Thanks, Anthony 😉✌️
i'm on the fence about getting a WANDRD PRVKE and i cant wait for your review on it, especially after carrying it extensively for this trip. Can i request for you to highlight the available space left after putting in the camera cube? And also, the recommendation for 21L vs 31L?
Hey Wei.
I have just finished editing the review. You still have a bunch of space left at the top. Especially with the rolltop. In the 31l version I actually put the ronin sc gimbal, a big Trakke pouch with a bunch of stuff and my nano puff jacker inside the top compartment
Congrats for the channel and for your backp.
Do you have suggestion for something similar to the HURU Discover H2 and the Peloton?
I like how compact and nice looks the HURU but i don't like the black inside,
I like the system of the peloton to carry voluminous packs but it's too large and not as good looking.
Best,
G
whats the approximate cost for a prototype? say a typical backpack
Request the required qualifications to work in the company
Hello Bo!
I am writing you to sincerely ask what backpack you believe is the most complete to riding motorcycle in office context such us laptop, notebooks, mobility to ride, maybe a hook for the helmet?
Thank you!
Hey Fred.
I really like the attitude atd1 on my motorcycle. It's not a dedicated motorcycle backpack like the velomacchi rolltop for instance (which is also one of my recommendations on a bike). However, it is extremely versatile on and of the bike due to its clamshell and rolltop opening. There are a few caveats that you can see in my review, but nevertheless I used this probably the most on my bike
Nice episode for this Bo..very informative and detailed. Can you review either Nomatic backpack or Quiksilver Grenade? I would love to see your reviews on that. Keep rockin' Bo\m/
Thank you for the information
This has been an awesome series to follow! 3:33 Timbuk2
Yes, Timbuktu makes their bags at Tasindo
Great can't wait for it. Also, are you going to also do a sling/ bumm bag?
I hope you will design the ultimate motorcycle commuter backpack for a bag manufacturer!
That would be awesome 👍
Please review the bobby bizz!
I took a shot every time you said bag. I'm ded now lol
😂 😂 😂
There is nothing stopping anyone from modifying the bag they have to suit their own needs better. Some customisation is easy but even then, may not work. Adding waist belts can be done on many bags even if the manufacture thinks the bag too small to include the option.
Even a 15-17 litre bag full of tech gear can be very heavy when trekking around hills. Adding sternum straps probably will not work unless you can also change the shoulder straps. Adding internal organisation, even sewing in pockets or fixing up dividers to work with Velcro isn't too hard to do.
Allowing pass through cables to charge tech on the go can also be done, particularly internally so as not to break any exterior water resistance the bag has.
The nearer you can get to the optimium bag for your needs the less modification it would require to go a little further.
Well said
Good morning Bo, from California. Thank you for this fascinating look behind the scenes and for helping us better understand all the steps required to bring a bag to life.
I think you should consider a Kickstarter of your own. You always give insightful reviews that impact us and how we think about using a bag we are considering purchasing, and you always raise the cons of a specific design or feature. You also have a platform, and followers. Personally I'd back you
Danke!
A collaboration would make sense; with a team that have manufactured already. Many manufacturers already team up with interest groups during the design process and survey their existing customers.
Thanks, Jeff and Gerald. I'd love to work with a brand in the future to create a bag. But doing it all on my own would just be a too big of a project (in regards to time, budget and knowledge). However, I not completely disregarding the idea of my own Kickstarter. I just think that this is a big task that might has its time some time in the far future
Love your tattoos, man!
Thanks, Wayne
Bo, great video!
Thanks, mate. After this series I gained even more appreciation for the craft of making bags. I'm really impressed that you do it all by yourself
@@Youknowthebo Thanks, I really appreciate it. If you are interested, you are very welcome in my workshop at any time 😉🖖
@@rehose cool. I might take you up on that offer. Where exactly are you located?
@@Youknowthebo Great! We are neighbors. I am from Czech, Ceske Budejovice. You are welcome 😉
That's not to far. If I ever come over I will let you know 😉 ✌️
Hi
Thanks for video
Please what is your email I would like to start manufacturing bag.
please help me especially the machines to be bought
Make it for motorcycle :)
Kennst du
facebook.com/SimplexityCustom/
?
Vielleicht könnte er dir ein Exemplar herstellen ? :-)
Nee, die kenne ich nicht. Muss ich mir mal genauer anschauen
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Who cares?