Apple Vision Pro: Remote Work Review
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- Опубліковано 1 лют 2024
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The big question: is the Apple Vision Pro worth it for remote work?
How much is the Apple Vision Pro? It starts at $3,499. That's expensive, yet still more affordable than the Apple Pro Display XDR, which starts at $4,999.
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Here's my follow up video on display settings: ua-cam.com/video/xrN4w-hNt9Q/v-deo.html
Finally, can't wait for people to start making more "working with the Vision Pro" video. I was searching for them and taught it might to to early to find one of those videos then I found this. People want to know what to use it for not just what it can do
Paid video.
No need. It’s so tiring on your eyes that it’s unusable for long periods of time
I used it for 6 hours and am still recovering after 2 days
This turd of a product is going to die fast, don't count on it :P
I'm disabled and looking for ways to work from bed - this may just have solved the problem. Thank you!
"free-range worker" is a hilarious term
Good old grass fed, never frozen free-range worker
Free mason?
He's an organic, free range, grass fed worker
Slowly but surely turning into the ppl from Wall-E 😅
My thought exactly 😂
I'm thinking "Minions".
@@stopgeorge you're right!
good, its a upgrade from our terrible world now
It's obvious that Apple should have prioritized productivity as a critical feature of the Vision Pro from day one, enabling a multi-screen workflow. For example, users should be able to open multiple apps and windows within those apps on the main desktop view, as the leading computing is done wirelessly. I hope that a firmware update, Mac software update, or the next iteration of the Vision Pro will provide such a feature-rich experience. Imagine opening Final Cut Pro with the monitor on one side and all the editing tools on the other, so there's no need to switch back and forth between the two workflows. It would be even better to move some favorite tools in spatial space in front of the video as we make minute adjustments.
I think it's a feature that's definitely going to be there
I doubt they didn’t consider this, so maybe it’s something they’re planning to include later and it wasn’t possible to deliver a smooth experience while streaming numerous Mac windows as of now?
+ 8k instead of 4k
From what I have heard, it has something to do with the VP's rendering ability. They prioritised the display's clarity, which is rendered in VP rather than on the Mac, as is the case with Airplay. I am surprised they didn't dedicate a chip for this so as to boost performance, but I suspect this will be a significant feature of series 2. Unfortunately, Apple loves to gimp its products to elongate their release timelines...
You also have to consider that if Apple decided to focus on screen sharing, it could have been misunderstood as a glorified monitor and not a new kind of 'spatial computing'. In that sense, they have bolstered themselves from that. However, unless Apple is able to bring the performance of a Mac to the VP, it is going to be limited to iPad-like capabilities which sucks.
Everything it is on one visionOS update
Been watching these avp vids all day and yours was the best quality and most calm and honest presentation,in my opinion,very well done.
true but he never talked about anything other that working from your laptop nothing else
@@cesramm1120Congrats, you figured out the entire, and clearly stated, point of this video.
@@cesramm1120 thats... literally the point of the entire video
Agreed!
I love the “calm” (but clearly psyched!) enthusiasm in this video 🤩 Thanks Brian! Would love to see a followup of you trying more stuff out and simply reacting to it. Let us live vicariously through you! Greetings from the currently AVP-less UK!
So cool, nice vid man! Thanks for sharing
In addition to the 4k macbook pro monitor, you could also use other vision pro native app (microsoft word, excel etc) in other windows
finally someone who uses it seriously. thanks for this amazing review!
Awesome demo! The bed/lying down work case sealed the deal 😎
You can AirPlay from your Mac to your Vision Pro for audio playback
that answers my question
Great point its versatile where you can use vision pro anywhere beach, office, hotel, in another country. With a better display that iMac desktop display with allowing u to use multiple screens and enlarging each in thin air. Absolutely revolutionary especially as the tech gets better and the headset gets lighter
I like the Apple Vision Bed concept 💪 you are awesome
As a remote worker, I REALLY appreciate your story here.
My AVP arrived on opening day.
I own an Apple Studio Display. You may have inspired me to create a video comparing my Studio Display to the AVP. BRAVO, Brian!
Do you find it too heavy to work in?
That looks spectacular ...amazing! I was debating if I would get an Apple Vision Pro. However, after watching your video, I am definitely getting one. Thank you for posting that video. Greetings from Australia.
I'd be wary, not all the reviews have been so uncritical of the headset. It does seem like it has many of the shortcomings of a first gen product which he fails to mention
100 percent .
I’m in Australia too and I can not wait .
Thank you too .
I’ll be getting this ASAP
If you want it for work then maybe it is worth it for you. But the FOV is less than the Quest 3 FOV, which is disappointing for something that costs $3000 more.
@@dtz1000well I own one and it’s not that critical as people make it out to be, you forget about the fog pretty quickly and the display clarity is just night and day compared to the quest 3
@@its_Vlad I don't think the FOV is critical either, especially when the display panel is that good. It's just too expensive for me and it's not Steam compatible. I can wait six months for the competition to release their own micro OLED headsets for less money.
Hands down the BEST video I’ve come across on the Apple Vision Pro! I’ve watched all the ‘well known’ UA-camrs and this video of yours crushes them all! You really hit the mark in terms of answering the burning question of using this for work, especially for editing in FCPX. Hope to see an even more in depth, deep dive on using FCPX with AVP. Subscribed! Thank you for sharing such informative content!
Totally. The high end UA-camrs don’t have normal knowledge worker jobs. I use two computers and three screens at work at my office, including a 43” LG monitor. I could seriously see replacing that whole setup with a Vision Pro and a MacBook Air, and I can take that setup with me wherever I go.
This is so cool I love this Apple Vision. It's kinda like when you feel it and see it it's like a dream.
Thanks for this practical use video. Thats why I bought it. I look forward to using it with my Wacom tablet. My physical monitors are 49” Ultrawide so this would be most beneficial on the go.
I believe the blurriness you’re talking about is foveated rendering. It only sharply renders what you’re looking at, which is perfect for VR, but for us on a screen looking at a recording it is a bit odd, we can see where you’re looking.
Yes...
Thank you, this is exactly the type of use case I've been wanting to hear about. Is the Vision Pro capable of being a full remote work-from-anywhere device.
Thank you, Brian
It is probably the most useful review on UA-cam with all the use cases I really wanted to see about
Deamn this looks crazy I want one and it is. 🔥🔥🔥. The only downside. They should of had add the latest M3 chip
I was surprised he didn’t show this, but besides the mirrored display, you can actually open 10 separate safari windows/apps and use them with the trackpad and the keyboard of the MacBook; which you use to mirror your display.
Great review! How’s the Vision Pro for colour accuracy? Can you actually trust it to do video or design?
I'll be looking forward to hearing your update about this is a few weeks. subscribed!
Thanks for this topic
Good review! Looking forward to hearing more about how the weight works after more use.
Bruh, this is the best video I’ve seen on the Vision Pro. You spoke directly to me. Great work!
Can you do a video on: productivity apps (zoom, any others), how do you record what you see on apple vision pro.
One of the best videos I’ve seen on the product so far
I think the ergonomics that virtual displays provide are worth the extra cost, especially if you're used to using a laptop without a monitor set up.
Seems like a great work environment. Can you install any of the apps you have on your laptop, that you use for work like maybe zoom, on the vision pro?
It’s awesome to be excited about this new tech
Great review. This is genuinely game changing stuff. I’ll be waiting for the 2nd gen but wow count me in.
exactly what interests me, and with nuances that others don’t talk about.
I appreciate a review that starts with one sentence long story short in the instead of ending with the conclusion
68k views so far! That's incredible. Keep posting Vision Pro content!
I use parallels on my mac to work on a pc for my work, so even if you need to work on a non mac and have your company control your pc you can still use the vision pro for work.
I'm building a cabin in the woods, on a lake. The views are stunning. I've been working remote for 25 years in my own business. I had always planned to seamlessly transition my work from home to the cabin all throughout the year, but this takes it to another level. I was looking for this EXACT kind of review. I think I'm going to take the leap. Brace yourself for pictures of me, sitting on my lounge chair, on the dock, in my bathing suit, with a Vision Pro strapped to my head, and my laptop on my lap. It's the ultimate re-invention of work. And then I can take this virtual office into the car (if I'm not driving), on a plane, to my bed, to the deck, or back to the dock. One question ... I wonder how Vision Pro works with Zoom?
Great perspective. This review was different than the rest - authentic to real world use 👍👍
I just ordered the dev kit right headband with usbc I hope it add some external device capabilities
You can use your laptop and have the volume come through your AVP, you have to go to settings then go to sound and click on the AVP
I’m so glad I got the 14” MBP Max M3 instead of the 16” now. I edit/colorgrade all the time & the smaller screen was harder before, not now.
Really awesome review man. I started to regret working with Microsoft XD after watching
For someone with Lazy eye,If you have lazy eye, you can change settings to use your one eye to track and point , you won't be able to see 3d well like normal site & if you switch eye it will try to focus
Can you close the MacBook lid? What about connecting hdmi simultaneously with using the headset? What’s the frame rate like? Any latency issue?
That's really cool review! Like it
Excellent video, exactly the kind of info I was looking for. Remote IT engineer, thinking of how this device can streamline my workflows. I look forward to your follow up videos.
Congratulations for making a really functional, product and interesting video that really helps, I hope you have many views.
Remote view would be sooooo good!!
Love the Apple HiFi. I still have mine.
A few things:
* Foveated rendering only renders sharply what you're focusing on as your peripherals don't see hi-res. This is a big part of how it's so fast.
* Thank you so much for doing a practical use video like this! Comparing it to a pro-level monitor makes total sense.
* Is your house an A-frame? It looks like it from the inside and, either way, I gotta say; nice house!
11:45 It seems to have quite aggressive dynamic foveated rendering. Makes sense as running panels like that is not easy.
This is one thing i was curious about, do they use DFR or not.
Great video! Do you think it’s doable to get work done on it without connecting to a Macbook? Like maybe just using an Apple magic keyboard and mouse and no laptop… That would be the real game changer for remote work or else it’s just another thing to have to set up.
Edit: I bought mine for working during travel. I use all Apple products except Macbook (I use a windows laptop)… I have an Apple magic keyboard, but now I’m worried I’m going to need to buy a Macbook too now to really get the full benefits of remote working…
The absolute DELUGE of useless clickbait reviews for shock value from people who treat it like a toy, will watch UA-cam on it and nothing else, is astounding. This is a computer and I want to see people use it like one. Thanks for this
Best review for the reasons some of us are looking at reviews for, hands down !
Can your laptop be put in clamshell mode while casting to the Vision Pro? How close do you have to be to the laptop/ how far away can you be from your laptop?
thanks for the video on the topic. i wonder if zoom has an app that can you use the virtual you in meetings 😀 this will be amazing once theres some sort of virtual keyboard.
Is possible use like 2 or more monitors? As a developer it is essential to be able to use 2 or more monitors not only to have a large screen in front
Can you do dual screen with it? How many "monitors" can you create using the laptop + vision pro?
How do you get pro-level processed audio into the Vision Pro to use with Personas?
Couldn’t Personas be implemented on iPhone & Macs?
Can you use your Persona in Zoom, WebEx, Teams, Slack? Can you use it on those apps running on your Mac?
When will Vision Pro support multiple macOS virtual monitors? Is Immersed going to be the way to do this?
Great use of the Apple Vision Pro. Can't wait to purchase one if it comes to australia, although there's a few things i'd like to see added to the Vision Pro that in my opinion would make it better!
1) To have 2-3 external display extensions from a mac computer, opens up professional multi-screen workflows and applications
2) To be compatible with a Mac Mini, apple vision pro would be a fantastic multi-display with e clean desktop
3) To have menus appear on your hands when you look down at them
4) To work better in low light situations, from what i've seen you need to be in a well lit room
Yep, same here. I’d want some ability to create multiple displays and arrange them how you want. Then it becomes very compelling in small workspaces.
Thanks for the useful review! The value add for me would be large or multiple monitors to see multiple files while I code. I use Ubuntu so I don’t know if this is possible yet. Also I don’t think I could get past the fuzziness outside the field of view.
Great vid. My only reason for buying this would be for productivity with my workspace. Single mac view is a bummer but im sure multiple windows will come and then im sold. This seems promising
You should set up the Persona system and experiment with using the teams or zoom ipad app to still have your webcam. It's a incredibly compelling use case.
Best video I’ve seen. Please do a follow up video ASAP on weight.
I like having the main screen connected to my Mac and put safari, Apple Music, Notion on different windows to the side of me using the vision OS apps. This was a great review I don’t know why more people are not making videos on this.
You should be able to change output sound to the vision pro in the sound settings on the expanded display from your macbook
Thinking about getting a MacBook to use with my Vision Pro. Can I connect to my laptop while it sits closed in another room but plugged in? So if I have my laptop sitting closed behind me or in another room, can I go to control center in the AVP and connect to it? I have a Bluetooth keyboard I connect to the AVP, and would get a track pad to go with it if I could just connect to it conveniently within the avp without needing to go get the laptop and open it up.
as a radiologist it would be great to report RM imaging! how's the quality: sharp and clear? thanx
If they can make use the f multiple Mac monitors then it's a killer feature . Maybe that will be the next 4000 usd upgrade next year
someone should try it with the mac studio - being in bed or in another room and still able to use it
Is it actually possible to use vision pro as a laptop only with a keyboard and mouse? Without a macbook?
Thanks for great video. Does it connect to iPad Pro please?
No. But it can run most iPad apps natively.
These headsets are just a bit too heavy for this use case. A few versions down the road when they are just a pair of thick glasses.
probably the best vision pro video out there
Sounds amazing. Now they just need to keep making small/big improvements over time. The big one is perfect clarity is needed and less weight. If they solve those 2 things with a price of under $2k…I’ll probably get it. But we will see what happens in the market. Exciting times.
Thanks for making this video. This is exactly why I was so excited about this product. Its my ability to work from it. I dont care about most for VR sturff out there.....the Apple Vision pro is just different.
Glad im not the only one buying it for the sole reason to work from and maybe watch some content with during down time.
Hey man, thanks for the review. What happens when you're not on the same WiFi as the MacBook? Are you able to connect to it? If so, is it fast enough?
They have to be on the same wi-fi.
If you use it every day for a year it is $11 a day if it costs you $4000. Amazing.
This will be very good for studying
How about Remote Desktop connections?
Thanks for the video! How’s the interaction with Safari in VisionOS working? Is it possible to move objects in browser by hand? Is that possible to draw something by a finger?
Yes. It can detect “taps” and “touches” as if you were using an invisible iPad. I mean it’s possible in that the system has the input for it, but I probably wouldn’t try to draw on it though. Then again, I’m a terrible artist and without that haptic feedback you’re sort of moving blind. But it’s perfectly functional for navigation.
Here before this gets 1M views 😊 I think you covered something we’re all thinking about - can we actually use it for work? Nicely done!
The micro oled display is just low volume and expensive right now that Apple threw everything they can on this device. Whereas, the glass implementation by Xreal and Rokid is the most sensible where it allows passthrough for cheap and without the huge weight and huge cost. During pandemic, I got an idea what if I replace my TV as monitor with VR. During my search, there are indeed people who used VR for remote work but of course no one did it permanently for many issues.
Any thoughts on Vision Pro vs. Xreal Air, Viture, and the like?
I have Viture and have seen people withthe VIsion Pro struggle with having something like a youtube video playing while they walk around. It seems it stays in place unless you hold it and "carry" it with you? I was walking my dog today and watched a video for work very well with the Viture. That being said, they're still very different products and are difficult to compare in my opinion. I'd compare the Vision pro to my Quest 3 before the Viture or Xreal Air. Won't be long before they have this for the Apple masses starting at $1500 with some features removed. Casey Neistat said it best, "this will be the worse Vision Pro Apple ever ships". Of course that makes sense, so this price is crazy for what you're getting right now for the average consumer IMO.
This amazing and insane at the same time..
Brian, question: when you get full immersion mode, can you still see your keyboard and computer? Or you have to dial it back down? Does it detect what you are working on (say you have a non-laptop keyboard around) or you have to dial down immersion ? In Meta Quest 3/Pro, you can using custom passthrough to keep being 100% immersed while working and seeing your hands and keyboard (I am using custom software, xsoverlay and steamvr for this), I am considering the value proposition, if it can actually do that it's a major selling point.
I can see my hands, but not the keyboard or computer with full immersion, so need to dial it back a bit. Hopefully they improve that!
@@BrianFrey1 Thanks for the feedback! That's unfortunately a bit of a deal-breaker for me, but they could solve it fast if they implement a simple app in their app store that automatically acts like a Meta portal. If I had more time I'd try to see if their SDK allows for it... If any dev out there wants to investigate that please let us all know!
@@whitecanid8938 curious why that’s a deal breaker?
It's a bit disappointing that it currently doesn't support multiple monitors or at least an ultrawide monitor. I and most people I work with uses at least 2 monitors, often 3. 1 large 4K monitor at 16:9 doesn't quite cut it. I've tried using a 50" 4K as monitor and it wasn't nearly as good as having 2 x 27" 1080 monitors even if the resolution ok the 4K in theory should be almost equivalent.
Bojangles food 😂 video emerging expansion
I totally agree with you.and very few reviewers have put it in the way you’re saying it. I think maybe a Magic Keyboard and might be enough for some tasks? But with a MacBook I would need a second screen that’s the feature that is missing perhaps. Multiple screens not only from Vision Pro but from the Mac or allowing to combine the MacBook screen with the virtual one simultaneously because anyway the Mac screen is good? But yeah i know a better solution would be multiple simultaneous virtual screens from both Mac and vision
Man it needs hdmi or some sort of video input. I wanna stream my PC games on it!
Several of the apps you brought up n your Mac are actually available as apps. You can open up more apps and save the Mac for the more powerful applications that don’t operate well as apps and it would allow you to have more windows.
I appreciate the innovation Apple did with the Vision Pro, but i think you can compare it to something like the Quest 3. You can also use the Quest 3 as a portable monitor replacement at a much cheaper price, but it might not work as smoothly as the Vision Pro.
Not even remotely, no pun intended, comparable. No eye tracking. No gesture tracking. Clunky hand held remotes. Way lower resolution. Waaaay worse pass through latency.
@@winniethepoohxi1896 I have the meta quest 3 and did a demo of the Vision Pro, it is significantly better, but I can’t say it justifies being 7x the price
So can you create additional extended Mac screens to simulate more than 1 monitor? That I could see is compelling.
Not currently. However you can open other Vision Pro/compatible iPad apps in their own separate window. So as developers start to bring their apps over, you can have them all in a separate window along side the virtual display. And your keyboard and trackpad work across all of them, not just the virtual display.
Someone mentioned it on another video but headless MacBooks are about to become a bit more popular as pairing them with a Vision Pro seems like a perfect combo and MacBooks with broken screens go for cheap.
Close MacBook, but with power... ARD works that way, maybe Vision Pro also.
Awesome vid, damn it I think I need one…
Pretty much the only reason I got it