You can use MUtility's latency delay to compensate for any m4l device delay by sandwiching the device between an MUtility that delays the signal, then another MUtility that compensates for the delay, and macro the parameters.
For anyone who is looking for an FL studio alternative, Frank Pole has a FREE patcher effect called Smoothe that also tries to be like Soothe, solid tool.
Plug-in makers hate him! This is genius. But damn my brain can barely keep up, I've only had Ableton for a little over a month and learned so much so fast. You're the man Val
Right? It's like creating a bus in Pro Tools but with the benefit of applying it in between inserts. It would be nice if they made a dedicated device for this.
A nerd is someone who's life is focused on computers and technology; but a geek is someone who's life is focused on computers and technology and likes it that way
Jus commenting to boost engagement I never want these vids to stop. I remember watching VR tutorials and streams almost 10 years ago. Feels like old times :)
Don't worry the EQ compensation is not hacky and neither is the delay, that's literally what happens inside actual VSTs. You're actually doing everything the way you should, the only difference is that VSTs are optimized at a fundamental level to do one specific thing and (SHOULD) use less CPU as a consequence
Damn bro, I've been self taught Fruity Loops Studio for 10+ years. Honestly Ableton is hard for me to understand, but I love it's frequency shifter. Totally unmatched compared to all plugins. (Yes I've tested them, they dull and phase shift your sound usually by default)!
As one of the exclusive FL users, the chain select video looked so cool but i couldn’t make it work in Patcher without it being a complete pain to set up… so I actually slapped together a VST that recreates the chain select and works in any DAW
its so inspirational for me as a music producer! Ableton is just one of the best music producecing applications. My transition from FL to ableton was, interesting... What you can make with ableton is SOOO amazing. Its like a fully reprogrammable music production device. AND you can use it as dj program for live performance. I heard that bitwig is nicer for this like of stuff if you want to have EVERYTHING to control it. I appreciate your work and music you made, much love and respect
dude the way you seem to understand everything and how they interact with each other is incredible. if you were to ever do a video series on what are the most important fundamental knowledge and techniques are for Ableton or making music in a daw, it would be huge for me
I really hope vst software companies out there get in touch with Val, I'm sure he'll have tonnes of great ideas like these that could be cleaned up into amazing new software, awesome video as always!!
remember doing this a while back in fl, definitely possible just kinda an eyesore, especially if you hate looking at wires on wires on wires. But nothing compares to the granular device I made using 16 instances of emergence, 2 stereo streams each, pitch linked to midi note, velocity to grain size and volume, etc.
your understanding of sound is just incredible. you itch the part of my brain that always wonders but doesnt have enough background knowledge to break down as well as you do
I am so excited to see VR play with BitWig! I feel like he's gonna have a blast playing with all the modulators. Especially since he used Ableton he'll already know how to use it.
omg! last night I was literally making a soothe-ish clone in bitwig's grid and was soon going to make a video about it. treemonster -> FX grid with the zero crossings module -> modulator out modulating a notch filter's frequency. then used some envelope followers to control the gain reduction. then duplicated the chain into 8 band regions. it seems to work really well so far!!! but big cpu usage.
Alright this is insane. I keep getting your videos recommended in my sidebar but after this one I can't not subscribe and risk missing any video you ever make ever again
I love this technique! I would try using the eq in mid side mode and only substract frequencies in the mid channel. That way the mixes changes less but still have the benefits
I've known of your existence since I saw your studio time vids and a video of you explaining your comeup and how you studied in Mannheim (literally random facts I remember form being a little 14yr old very inspired boy) and you never fail to inspire me even if i've moved to other genres and in general grown up. I still love your sound, the fact that you still explain sound design to us plebs and you never fail to fascinate me with your ideas! Thanks for all that has been and all that will.
Garage band kids, where are you now? 🔥 I remember listening to Virtual Riot music when I was in middle school a lot of Monstercat as well, and I decided I would like to learn how to make music. Time passed kind of stayed away from it. No, I have a job and I do Ableton live on the side. What about you?
I definitely like your version better. Mainly because it is more aggressive and I am making melodic bass and dubstep. Soothe is also really nice, I might get it eventually but I think I would use it on more of my 128bpm tracks like electro or melodic electro.
at that resolution, trackspacer would probably do pretty similarly, esp if you had it sidechained from an eq’d signal that you couldn’t hear. and it’s much cheaper
one thing i've found handy for the delay on the envelope followers recently is using MUtility, which has an option to set delay and then optionally report it as latency! so you can just link up two of those to a macro and have the thing the envelope follower is applying to between them and then it works like really easy lookahead (and its extra nice since i think track negative delay in ableton causes all synced effects like auto pans in the project to be desynced) really enjoying the videos, especially all of the more complex racks, seeing them has given me so many ideas of what's possible with the rack tools that I didn't really know about before! so far I've made a like "microdynamics enhancer" and a couple variants of a multiband pan centering thing since I find myself manually MSpectralPanning hihats to the center on breaks and stuff all the time lmao
Reminds me of when people started using dynamic EQ plugins some 10 years or more back and I just set Ableton's compressor assigned to very narrow and specific bandpass points. I also find the autofilter in Ableton tends to react faster than EQ8, and have used several of those in parallel over a mix each with their own compressor to give me a master or sound I needed. And if you're not mixing to another file or device (eg when I used DAT) just rendering will remove 99% of the latency/delay issues.
We’re getting straight spoiled. These vids are GOLD ty ty ty
You can use MUtility's latency delay to compensate for any m4l device delay by sandwiching the device between an MUtility that delays the signal, then another MUtility that compensates for the delay, and macro the parameters.
had no idea you did youtube too, that is awesome.
love your music, especially with danyka nadeau. such a great combination. listen to it all the time!
youre too smart bro.
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
XDDDDDDDD
his undersandings of sound design is incredible. he should make an album
Lol
you're not gonna believe this...
@@basedsmoke591 whoosh!
@@mrstarforge3572wooosh on you aswell xDD
@@mrstarforge3572bro did not just unironically woosh someone in 2024
He's gonna help so many people get back into producing and feeling inspired with these videos
I'm def one of them lol
Same here 😅
For anyone who is looking for an FL studio alternative, Frank Pole has a FREE patcher effect called Smoothe that also tries to be like Soothe, solid tool.
🔥🔥🔥
I only use frank pole patcher plugins 😂 endless smile, soothe, rc20 😂😂 he’s dope
Thank you brother 🤙🏻
@@FrankPoleAYOOOOOOOO 😳😳😳 patcher goat is here
@@elchupacabra33🫡🫡🫡
Plug-in makers hate him! This is genius. But damn my brain can barely keep up, I've only had Ableton for a little over a month and learned so much so fast.
You're the man Val
Using the Gate effect's sidechain in monitoring mode, to trick Ableton into giving you a virtual patch-cable from anywhere to anywhere. Perfect
Right? It's like creating a bus in Pro Tools but with the benefit of applying it in between inserts. It would be nice if they made a dedicated device for this.
can also be achieved with m4l btw.
this is awesome! - also for the peeps looking into soothe, it is expensive BUT does have a rent to own option u just gotta contact support
This is huge 🫶
He should make a video on mixdowns
this thumbnail is insane
Homemade vsts are amazing.
I think i made a soothe type thing on my own too
6 videos in a row woohoo!!
UA-cam Music Tutorial Renaissance Happens Here
A nerd is someone who's life is focused on computers and technology; but a geek is someone who's life is focused on computers and technology and likes it that way
Jus commenting to boost engagement I never want these vids to stop. I remember watching VR tutorials and streams almost 10 years ago. Feels like old times :)
YES SOOTHE IS SO COOL
VR is literally doing gods work. every single video hes been pumping out is so inspirational. a true goat of the scene.
He is a person who helps many people and always works hard...
Who doesn't love a virtual riot?❤❤❤❤
Absolute goat
Don't worry the EQ compensation is not hacky and neither is the delay, that's literally what happens inside actual VSTs. You're actually doing everything the way you should, the only difference is that VSTs are optimized at a fundamental level to do one specific thing and (SHOULD) use less CPU as a consequence
Damn bro, I've been self taught Fruity Loops Studio for 10+ years. Honestly Ableton is hard for me to understand, but I love it's frequency shifter. Totally unmatched compared to all plugins. (Yes I've tested them, they dull and phase shift your sound usually by default)!
Valentin’s Day is coming soon. All hail Virtual Riot!
Ur a god bruh
Bro you're legitimately a genius
again, my hero!
Guten Morgen, gute nacht, heut hat mich Virtual Riot ins Bett gebracht
German Engineering at its finest!
As one of the exclusive FL users, the chain select video looked so cool but i couldn’t make it work in Patcher without it being a complete pain to set up… so I actually slapped together a VST that recreates the chain select and works in any DAW
Frank Pole did a soothe clone in FL and it’s gold: ua-cam.com/video/M8a5la4pz_g/v-deo.htmlsi=8s3HJt1SQd4OCLoZ
thank you vr for all the help with muisc and sound design knowledge
its so inspirational for me as a music producer! Ableton is just one of the best music producecing applications. My transition from FL to ableton was, interesting... What you can make with ableton is SOOO amazing. Its like a fully reprogrammable music production device. AND you can use it as dj program for live performance. I heard that bitwig is nicer for this like of stuff if you want to have EVERYTHING to control it. I appreciate your work and music you made, much love and respect
best ableton salesman
These videos are making me realize that I should really use Ableton more often. I mainly use Reaper but I own both, so why not?
Super useful! Built something similar in Patcher and it saved my ass so many times!
This is truly the best gift. You have no idea how many times I rewatch your older studio time/tutorial vids. 💖💖 much love 😢💖💖
HOLY CRAP I WAS LITERALLY JUST ABOUT TO BUY SOOTHE2 TODAY!!! THANK YOUUU VR!!!
I'm just extremely impressed you figured this out by yourself. Mind is blown
dude the way you seem to understand everything and how they interact with each other is incredible. if you were to ever do a video series on what are the most important fundamental knowledge and techniques are for Ableton or making music in a daw, it would be huge for me
I really hope vst software companies out there get in touch with Val, I'm sure he'll have tonnes of great ideas like these that could be cleaned up into amazing new software, awesome video as always!!
I’m gonna try and recreate this in FL using Patcher. I’ve been screwing around with Patcher a lot for the past year or two, so i think i can do it
A guy called Frank Pole already created a clone of soothe in FL Studio 🫡 guy’s a genius
Search for “frank pole” on UA-cam, you’ll find his patcher clone of soothe for FL Studio. Cheers!
Frank pole already did it, go check it out. Thank me later 😉
I think I'm gonna start music production because of you
Why am I starting to love these videos? They are just so awesome!
These videos are sooo inspiring and the value is immense! Thank you so much for everything Val! We love u!
You are literally the a gift that keeps on giving, thanks for sharing your knowledge homie
Bought soothe at black friday price. It has more than saved my time to make up for its price. Love the can opener preset on the master.
Thank toy for all these videos lately we love you 👑
remember doing this a while back in fl, definitely possible just kinda an eyesore, especially if you hate looking at wires on wires on wires. But nothing compares to the granular device I made using 16 instances of emergence, 2 stereo streams each, pitch linked to midi note, velocity to grain size and volume, etc.
Me and my boi virtual riot going all out making plugin companies go broke one video at a time 🍻
🔥🔥🔥
Happy Valentine's Day Val! You are the best
oeksound punching the air
WE SAVING MONEY WITH THIS ONE 🔥🔥🔥
Soon, VR will appear in the Ableton development team
your understanding of sound is just incredible. you itch the part of my brain that always wonders but doesnt have enough background knowledge to break down as well as you do
I am so excited to see VR play with BitWig! I feel like he's gonna have a blast playing with all the modulators. Especially since he used Ableton he'll already know how to use it.
thank you very much !
bro thanks for posting these racks and detailing your process absolute goat right here
Thank you for putting it for ALL for free ! Thanks Valentin for this Valentine’s gift 💝
I can't wait to buy your VR BITWIGS RACKS & Amazing stuff 🤩
The lords work
omg! last night I was literally making a soothe-ish clone in bitwig's grid and was soon going to make a video about it. treemonster -> FX grid with the zero crossings module -> modulator out modulating a notch filter's frequency. then used some envelope followers to control the gain reduction. then duplicated the chain into 8 band regions. it seems to work really well so far!!! but big cpu usage.
Goated producer man strikes again
😢OMG... He's heard of us FL Studio users.❤❤❤
Imagine him doing a video on trying FL Studio. I'm pretty sure he'd make FL bend to his will.
Alright this is insane. I keep getting your videos recommended in my sidebar but after this one I can't not subscribe and risk missing any video you ever make ever again
Bro you are such a legend, truly a golden gem for everyone right now
the titel is amazing
Hey babe, wake up... It's Virtual Riot new video
Man literally built soothe. We must obey all his commands at this point
I love this technique! I would try using the eq in mid side mode and only substract frequencies in the mid channel. That way the mixes changes less but still have the benefits
Been following you since I was younger, please more studio time ✌🏽💜
I've known of your existence since I saw your studio time vids and a video of you explaining your comeup and how you studied in Mannheim (literally random facts I remember form being a little 14yr old very inspired boy) and you never fail to inspire me even if i've moved to other genres and in general grown up. I still love your sound, the fact that you still explain sound design to us plebs and you never fail to fascinate me with your ideas! Thanks for all that has been and all that will.
We have soothe at home, is something i never thought i wish to hear someday
We finally got what we wanted Virtual Riot daily videos 🎉🎉 The world is not ready for this😂🎉
I’ve been holding out on buying soothe, but I’ve almost pulled the trigger recently. Maybe one day.
thanks VALENTINE THE GOAT
My man is on a release streak . I can’t handle I’ve been so freaking expired the past week because of all of these 😎😁 Thanks Valentin
You should try Nasko’s N-MLC device to compensate for the latency within the rack!
VR please understand how much you help this community!!
soothe is so over-hyped, nice to see your alternative
You are incredibly smart and talented, and its just a bonus that you are willing to share this with us for free
Dude you are seriously the best. THANK YOU
Du bist eine verdammte Legende! Hab zur Zeit sehr mit mir gekämpft, ob ich mir soothe2 gönne oder nicht. Perfect timing 👌
Damn I wish the first track will get released it sounds so cool
thats just beautiful
at this point the ableton execs should just hire him.
ANOTHER VIDEO ARE YOU INSANE
Men of culture, we meet again.
what about women of culture? this is literally sexism. /j
@@tauon_Please, how is that sexist??
@@agatonohlsson9294 i was having a laugh, it's not sexist
Quite indeed fellow chap much obliged
@@tauon_😅
he's going sicko mode!!!
Ableton should pay you a lot of money. Like a lot.
Garage band kids, where are you now?
🔥
I remember listening to Virtual Riot music when I was in middle school a lot of Monstercat as well, and I decided I would like to learn how to make music.
Time passed kind of stayed away from it.
No, I have a job and I do Ableton live on the side.
What about you?
This guy will make an entire DAW next
So sick, big up!
Absolutely brilliant
I definitely like your version better. Mainly because it is more aggressive and I am making melodic bass and dubstep. Soothe is also really nice, I might get it eventually but I think I would use it on more of my 128bpm tracks like electro or melodic electro.
at that resolution, trackspacer would probably do pretty similarly, esp if you had it sidechained from an eq’d signal that you couldn’t hear. and it’s much cheaper
I mean, you can just make a 24 band dynamic eq on pro-q3 and call it a day
Did he gave us all Soothe for free not even for the Patreons?! THIS IS SO COOL!!!!
Man, I'd love to see VR make FL tutorials or maybe an Ableton User tries FL studio Vid? That'd be a fun watch
I'd love to see him try FL. As an Ableton and cubase user FL is strange to me😂 the stock plug ins are insane though in FL
You're too smart and advanced for me
The best teacher ever ❤
one thing i've found handy for the delay on the envelope followers recently is using MUtility, which has an option to set delay and then optionally report it as latency! so you can just link up two of those to a macro and have the thing the envelope follower is applying to between them and then it works like really easy lookahead (and its extra nice since i think track negative delay in ableton causes all synced effects like auto pans in the project to be desynced)
really enjoying the videos, especially all of the more complex racks, seeing them has given me so many ideas of what's possible with the rack tools that I didn't really know about before! so far I've made a like "microdynamics enhancer" and a couple variants of a multiband pan centering thing since I find myself manually MSpectralPanning hihats to the center on breaks and stuff all the time lmao
Reminds me of when people started using dynamic EQ plugins some 10 years or more back and I just set Ableton's compressor assigned to very narrow and specific bandpass points. I also find the autofilter in Ableton tends to react faster than EQ8, and have used several of those in parallel over a mix each with their own compressor to give me a master or sound I needed. And if you're not mixing to another file or device (eg when I used DAT) just rendering will remove 99% of the latency/delay issues.