It's not blues, it's progressive jazz. You are correct. That middle section where everyone separates into their own harmony and time, is just so beautiful to someone like me who loves modern jazz.
I can promise you, you won't be disappointed, Jinjer is such a great band with many great tracks, if you liked this, you'll love their later stuff as I feel it's more accessible for more non Metal fans, as Jinjer incorporates many different musical styles into their music. For me they're one of the bands who have taken Metal into interesting and more diverse directions.
This is one of those tracks which is a grower I feel, against the more instant appeal of a lot of their stuff. I don't know who said it was bluesy, more progressive, yes, many of their earlier tracks were. It's so interesting and exciting watching someone, like yourself discovering what, Jinjer is about. They're no passengers in this band, they're all as equally talented, some bands are greater than the sum of their parts, but with Jinjer there is an embarrassment of riches.
This song has actually been covered by other bands and solo artists. Phenomenal rough Diamond 🤘🏼Jinjer is as a collective in my opinion, is amongst the most talented bands out there! Not one song will ever disappoint.
As long as I have loved Jinjer, both as a musician and as a music lover, this is one of my favorites for the last 6 years................... thanx for your interset in Jinjer and for your reactions as muician & music lover ;-) warm greetings from germany
Yes, it's the album closer. Has some cool Tool vibes to boot IMO. I have all their CDs. I found Jinjer in '18. Have met them and seen them live a couple of times thus far. I'm a 50 + year old rock musician and Jinjer are my favorite band from this century. 🤘 💙💛
Absolutely. Bad Water is their bluesy number. This video was released AFTER King of Everything. Napalm wanted to rerelease Cloud Factory under their label after the success of KOE, so the band cut a video for Bad Water as a promo for the rerelease. When you listen to the next album, King of Everything, start with "Sit, Stay, Rollover". The difference between Cloud Factory Jinjer and current Jinjer is immediately startling. It's like a punch in the mouth. It's not only a massive headbanger and fight anthem, but it's also the song that got them signed to Napalm.
@@BraindeadBreakdown As you’ve done that and Pisces it’ll be interesting to see where you go next with King of Everything. My vote is I Speak Astronomy, as it’s a favourite of many. Just remember whenever you get to I Speak Astronomy , please for the love of god don’t stop the video before it actually ends. I saw a reactor do that once and the comment section was just a massive collective facepalm lol.
Lol there are guitar, bass, drum official playthroughs for damn near every jinjer song put out by roman, eugene and vlad/dmitriy kim on here anyways....interesting stuff to watch and react to 😂😂
I feel like the Jinjer way of mixing genres is to take something softer and then layer in heaviness. The polar opposite is I Want It I'll Get It which is all growls and all Russian.
In the context of an entire album I feel Bad Water rounds out the experience nicely, and especially helps complete the entire compilation - of what, 51-ish stellar songs so far - plus various banger live renditions. By mixing in the mellow ones like this, and a few others, I don't need to listen to too much else. And one could argue that there might be overly heavy or aggressive parts to certain Jinjer tracks. It all balances perfectly.
I really love the live version of this song. This is more of slow build up Jinjer or shallow end Jinjer good for those who are skiddish around extreme vocals. The jazz influences in the song are great.
Jinjer has got more progressive as the years have passed and have moved further from their metal core roots. When Vlad came on board as the drummer and main composer (I use composer rather than songwriter deliberately), with his classical music background, the trend towards prog accelerated, to the point where the last Jinjer album, Wallflowers, is pretty much all through composed. A classical piece in 11 movements rather than a metal album with 11 tracks. The words that Tatiana uses to describe the band are “extreme” and “progressive”. Eugene has more recently added that Jinjer songs always have groove.
It's Tati's smokey nightclub vocals in this one that are bluesy, I'd say. There are a couple of other Jinjer songs where she sings clean throughout (& one of those features a rather tidy jazz guitar solo). (Off topic, ah, Federico, the main man behind Frozen Crown, his favourite guitarist is Gary Moore. Just mentioning that FYI, like...)
@@BraindeadBreakdown Yup, a Japanese fan even sent him a vinyl copy of Black Rose that he's very proud of. I spotted it in the background of a vid, one of those band chitchat efforts.
I was afraid I might have been misleading by calling it bluesy, but I don't really know how else to describe it. To me, it has kind of a bluesy vibe, even though it's probably not what most people would think of as an actual blues rock song. Nevertheless, it's a bit of a different vibe for Jinjer, which is not out of the ordinary. As you'll continue to see as you continue this journey, this band is very diverse and full of surprises. The best part is all of them are good!
It is bluesy in comparison to the rest of their catalogue (that I have heard) but still not a song I would call bluesy. I thoroughly enjoyed it though, thanks for the recommendation 😊
I really like this song. The official live video of this song is even better....you can appreciate what Vlad added to the table as a drummer. Vlad adds so much texture. I see most of your reactions are going from earlier to later. Glad to see you are digging the older stuff.....and the best is yet to come. Micro, Macro and Wallflowers are monster releases. But all in due time. Keep rocking and thanks 👍
I will check that out too at some point, I love their live stuff so far. I started with more recent stuff (I think) and then decided to head backwards a bit and work my way up 😊 I thought the Jinjer fans of the band might appreciate seeing me go on a similar journey to them 🤘
whenever i hear this song, i often find myself thinking "k, i think i'd like to hear these guys do a cover of Black Velvet" 😅 (while i'm probably completely alone on this, i still stand by it). As much as i like this song, it's a sharp reminder of just how integral and necessary Tati's vocal change-ups are to this band's overall sound. ngl, while the recurring themes on this album are obvious, i hadn't before really given much thought to the construction of the album overall. but with you making it a point to discuss this song's placement on the album, it finally clicked that this is about as close to a "concept album" as you can get without actually calling it a "concept album". I must say -- really smart construction on their part. (though, to be fair, as much as they've talked about how much they love Gojira, it could simply have been a case of that that's just the general head-space Tati was in when she was writing for this one 🤷♂) Looking forward to the next one 🤘
Thank you for watching! A Black Velvet cover would be awesome if they put their own spin on it! I have never actually listened to Gojira, that is another one for the long list of things to react to 😂
You've not done I Speak Astronomy yet, have you? One of the most...epic songs they've done. With an equally epic video. On the Top is also brilliant. Not sure if they're from this album though. . Was that the first Jinjer song I've ever heard with no harsh vocals at all? I think it was. Not sure how I feel about that one.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the album as a whole once you've had a chance to listen all the way through. It's my favorite, but I grew up on 80s and 90s punk and hardcore so I tend to lean towards less compressed production style like Bad Brains and Metallicas first 2 albums.
I will give my thoughts once I have listened to the whole thing, between recording/editing reactions and life I have been very busy the last couple of months 😂
Not really a hooky song, more of a vibe. I mainly love the bass outro to this song. It’s a great finish to a great debut album. It’s the sort of song that Jinjer nerds hope to see them pull out live from time to time. Rather than Pisces for the casuals. lol. 6:45 Haha. Can tell that you haven’t listened to anything off the last couple of albums from the way you say this. ;D
@@BraindeadBreakdown Oh I know. I’ve only been into them about a year, but I worked my way backwards through their catalogue rather than forwards. I’m not a big metal guy but I always appreciate bands that try to do something new with each album and Jinjer are like that.
I appreciate that as well! I mean don't get me wrong, if a band are amazing at one thing I can appreciate that too. But I love bands that have music for whatever mood I am in. Jinjer seems to be one of the latter 🤘
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It's not blues, it's progressive jazz. You are correct. That middle section where everyone separates into their own harmony and time, is just so beautiful to someone like me who loves modern jazz.
Ok, never heard Jinjer before, thought I'd be brave and give it a try😂
I can promise you, you won't be disappointed, Jinjer is such a great band with many great tracks, if you liked this, you'll love their later stuff as I feel it's more accessible for more non Metal fans, as Jinjer incorporates many different musical styles into their music. For me they're one of the bands who have taken Metal into interesting and more diverse directions.
This is one of those tracks which is a grower I feel, against the more instant appeal of a lot of their stuff. I don't know who said it was bluesy, more progressive, yes, many of their earlier tracks were. It's so interesting and exciting watching someone, like yourself discovering what, Jinjer is about. They're no passengers in this band, they're all as equally talented, some bands are greater than the sum of their parts, but with Jinjer there is an embarrassment of riches.
Eugene's bass on this is so good. He's been killing it the entire time he's been in the band.
This song has actually been covered by other bands and solo artists. Phenomenal rough Diamond 🤘🏼Jinjer is as a collective in my opinion, is amongst the most talented bands out there! Not one song will ever disappoint.
You are going to want to watch that again with your eyes open...
As long as I have loved Jinjer, both as a musician and as a music lover, this is one of my favorites for the last 6 years...................
thanx for your interset in Jinjer and for your reactions as muician & music lover ;-)
warm greetings from germany
Live version of this is awesome
Yes, it's the album closer. Has some cool Tool vibes to boot IMO. I have all their CDs. I found Jinjer in '18.
Have met them and seen them live a couple of times thus far. I'm a 50 + year old rock musician and Jinjer are my favorite band from this century. 🤘 💙💛
Ooh! I like!! This old lady is loving finding some quality music- thanks Braindead for showing me new stuff!!
I am glad you enjoyed it! I am enjoying Jinjer a lot too!
Absolutely. Bad Water is their bluesy number. This video was released AFTER King of Everything. Napalm wanted to rerelease Cloud Factory under their label after the success of KOE, so the band cut a video for Bad Water as a promo for the rerelease.
When you listen to the next album, King of Everything, start with "Sit, Stay, Rollover". The difference between Cloud Factory Jinjer and current Jinjer is immediately startling. It's like a punch in the mouth. It's not only a massive headbanger and fight anthem, but it's also the song that got them signed to Napalm.
I have already done Sit, Stay, Rollover and I thought it was awesome!
@@BraindeadBreakdown As you’ve done that and Pisces it’ll be interesting to see where you go next with King of Everything. My vote is I Speak Astronomy, as it’s a favourite of many.
Just remember whenever you get to I Speak Astronomy , please for the love of god don’t stop the video before it actually ends. I saw a reactor do that once and the comment section was just a massive collective facepalm lol.
Lol there are guitar, bass, drum official playthroughs for damn near every jinjer song put out by roman, eugene and vlad/dmitriy kim on here anyways....interesting stuff to watch and react to 😂😂
I feel like the Jinjer way of mixing genres is to take something softer and then layer in heaviness.
The polar opposite is I Want It I'll Get It which is all growls and all Russian.
In the context of an entire album I feel Bad Water rounds out the experience nicely, and especially helps complete the entire compilation - of what, 51-ish stellar songs so far - plus various banger live renditions. By mixing in the mellow ones like this, and a few others, I don't need to listen to too much else. And one could argue that there might be overly heavy or aggressive parts to certain Jinjer tracks. It all balances perfectly.
I really love the live version of this song. This is more of slow build up Jinjer or shallow end Jinjer good for those who are skiddish around extreme vocals. The jazz influences in the song are great.
Jinjer has got more progressive as the years have passed and have moved further from their metal core roots. When Vlad came on board as the drummer and main composer (I use composer rather than songwriter deliberately), with his classical music background, the trend towards prog accelerated, to the point where the last Jinjer album, Wallflowers, is pretty much all through composed. A classical piece in 11 movements rather than a metal album with 11 tracks. The words that Tatiana uses to describe the band are “extreme” and “progressive”. Eugene has more recently added that Jinjer songs always have groove.
>you: "i've been Braindead"
>me: "and some of us still are"
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😂😂
a slow deep drag on that Jinjer Cigarette and a slow exhale.
I love this song, it is a little strange when you have only heard their heavy stuff, but man, it grows on you! The Jinjer tree has many branches!
I love that they aren't just a one trick pony!
I love this song. Very 'moody'.
It's Tati's smokey nightclub vocals in this one that are bluesy, I'd say. There are a couple of other Jinjer songs where she sings clean throughout (& one of those features a rather tidy jazz guitar solo).
(Off topic, ah, Federico, the main man behind Frozen Crown, his favourite guitarist is Gary Moore. Just mentioning that FYI, like...)
Interesting, VERY interesting... A fellow Gary Moore lover eh?
@@BraindeadBreakdown Yup, a Japanese fan even sent him a vinyl copy of Black Rose that he's very proud of. I spotted it in the background of a vid, one of those band chitchat efforts.
I was afraid I might have been misleading by calling it bluesy, but I don't really know how else to describe it. To me, it has kind of a bluesy vibe, even though it's probably not what most people would think of as an actual blues rock song. Nevertheless, it's a bit of a different vibe for Jinjer, which is not out of the ordinary. As you'll continue to see as you continue this journey, this band is very diverse and full of surprises. The best part is all of them are good!
It is bluesy in comparison to the rest of their catalogue (that I have heard) but still not a song I would call bluesy. I thoroughly enjoyed it though, thanks for the recommendation 😊
No it makes sense. This song and Pisces both have a distinctly "Delta" vibe hidden in there
I really like this song. The official live video of this song is even better....you can appreciate what Vlad added to the table as a drummer. Vlad adds so much texture.
I see most of your reactions are going from earlier to later. Glad to see you are digging the older stuff.....and the best is yet to come. Micro, Macro and Wallflowers are monster releases. But all in due time.
Keep rocking and thanks 👍
I will check that out too at some point, I love their live stuff so far.
I started with more recent stuff (I think) and then decided to head backwards a bit and work my way up 😊 I thought the Jinjer fans of the band might appreciate seeing me go on a similar journey to them 🤘
This is their only song with no harsh vocals. Interestingly it comes on the album after their only song that has no clean vocal.
whenever i hear this song, i often find myself thinking "k, i think i'd like to hear these guys do a cover of Black Velvet" 😅 (while i'm probably completely alone on this, i still stand by it).
As much as i like this song, it's a sharp reminder of just how integral and necessary Tati's vocal change-ups are to this band's overall sound.
ngl, while the recurring themes on this album are obvious, i hadn't before really given much thought to the construction of the album overall. but with you making it a point to discuss this song's placement on the album, it finally clicked that this is about as close to a "concept album" as you can get without actually calling it a "concept album". I must say -- really smart construction on their part. (though, to be fair, as much as they've talked about how much they love Gojira, it could simply have been a case of that that's just the general head-space Tati was in when she was writing for this one 🤷♂)
Looking forward to the next one 🤘
Thank you for watching! A Black Velvet cover would be awesome if they put their own spin on it!
I have never actually listened to Gojira, that is another one for the long list of things to react to 😂
@@BraindeadBreakdownJinjer & Gojira met up at an Aussie music festival. Sounds like it was a bit of a mutual appreciation love-in. 😂
You've not done I Speak Astronomy yet, have you? One of the most...epic songs they've done. With an equally epic video. On the Top is also brilliant. Not sure if they're from this album though.
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Was that the first Jinjer song I've ever heard with no harsh vocals at all? I think it was. Not sure how I feel about that one.
I have not done that one yet, I think it is on a different album 😊
@@BraindeadBreakdown ah, fair enough. You'll get to it, I'm sure.
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the album as a whole once you've had a chance to listen all the way through.
It's my favorite, but I grew up on 80s and 90s punk and hardcore so I tend to lean towards less compressed production style like Bad Brains and Metallicas first 2 albums.
I will give my thoughts once I have listened to the whole thing, between recording/editing reactions and life I have been very busy the last couple of months 😂
Blues and metal are actually very close. As rock came from blues and metal came from rock. Except metal implements more classical components.
Are there people that don't know that? 😂
@@BraindeadBreakdown maybe? Idk.
Not really a hooky song, more of a vibe. I mainly love the bass outro to this song. It’s a great finish to a great debut album.
It’s the sort of song that Jinjer nerds hope to see them pull out live from time to time. Rather than Pisces for the casuals. lol.
6:45 Haha. Can tell that you haven’t listened to anything off the last couple of albums from the way you say this. ;D
I am definitely still new to this band, the only songs I have heard are the ones I have reacted to on the channel 😊
@@BraindeadBreakdown Oh I know. I’ve only been into them about a year, but I worked my way backwards through their catalogue rather than forwards. I’m not a big metal guy but I always appreciate bands that try to do something new with each album and Jinjer are like that.
I appreciate that as well! I mean don't get me wrong, if a band are amazing at one thing I can appreciate that too. But I love bands that have music for whatever mood I am in. Jinjer seems to be one of the latter 🤘
Plus or minus next please
All for Oil 😮