I do like the visual digressions for blooms or vegetative patterns, make no excuses for your art school experience😊 Postulating corrections to perceived norms, especially evidenced as you do, can only improve our knowledge of the nearly lost past, keep it up! The academics may not like it, but once it’s out there, it’s down to them to refute it with evidence of their own.😊
Thanks, Paul. I have free time now and after 450 videos the edit is quicker now. I hit the editing with aggression: throw everything onto the timeline and rough it out but if I start to watch what I am editing the plan unravels.
'Mr Fox' it's not arrogant to question authority, it's curiosity. Fascinating to find out new information - at nearly 3k subs someone's listening... PS the photography is real, love it 👍👍 aren't those spindle trees ancient indicators?
Ex-academic here. 'Your betters' do nothing more than what you are doing. The only difference is they have trained in constructing and conducting research in general, and are competent in writing formally academic arguments. Your view is entirely valid, and incredibly valuable. What you're doing 6:30 is of value and importance. Please find an academic who works in early medieval history and approach them for a chat about your work.
You’re too kind. There are two other locations I have considered writing up to be hopefully published by the local antiquarian societies. The fact is social media is way more immediate and far-reaching. But how permanent is it? Maybe I should start writing it up.
Great video, thank you. You’re as good as anyone else to make a ‘discovery’. In astronomy it’s often the ‘amateurs’ (so called) who with their wider-angle lenses make important new sightings of planets and phenomena. Keep your lenses wide-angle and you may well make a few more discoveries. Besides, you’re the one who gets out on the ground… Les
Fascinating walk and some excellent drone shots and photography. Why shouldn't you make a discovery? What you explained made perfect sense to me. I've never seen these charters, are you able to show them on your videos? Or point me in the right direction I'm also curious to know how a stone wall can dated. Tweedy will love the Komorebi on show👌👌 Great video, well done!!
Great video, and a great discovery, it's great that's there's still so much history to uncover. I'd love to know if you have your routes available so I could have a wonder and find the landmarks, I live right by where this was filmed. I've only recently discovered Allotment Fox, and I'm glad I have, combining my interests in maps, walking, history and etymology. Brilliant!
That's my local patch! 😊 If you're in the area again, please could you investigate the Anglo-Saxon boundary, currently in the grounds of Bath Spa Uni, known as Hurl Stone. It is the point where three ancient parishes meet, and the name intrigues me, looking to know more about it. Love your videos, enjoyed your collab with Darren, thank you for your answer to my question on his video, much obliged!
@AllotmentFox It's on the Somerset HER, a spur of land between one of the ponds and a small stream: the tripoint where the boundaries of Newton, Stanton, and Corston meet. I'd be much obliged to you, the name Hurl Stone is definitely intriguing, and according the HER, the location was already described as ancient in the AS charter. I walked over there recently and it's definitely worth a look, although not as easy to get to as it seems 😂
I’ve got a children’s stone, a lonely stone and a Wimund’s stone from the Corston area and no Hurl Stone yet. Still looking. If you have access to that spur of land I would appreciate having a chat because there is an old wall and the Wansdyke there as well as the Children’s stone
It is a little bit boring, but I ought to. In the meantime I can say I am forced to google “electronic sawyer” + name-of-town then tediously sift through the results. Then, when I find something useful I go through the jumble of Latin until I find good old, coarse English and then start translating with the OS map on the other side of the screen
I love the visuals along the way--I go to full screen and relax. At some point you'll have to engage with those guys who don't take you seriously, not for your sake, but for the sake of knowledge going forward. I doubt there are many (any?) others who have spend the time you have with the documents and in the field, and your knowledge should be preserved, in print as well as on UA-cam.
It was a sort-of call to arms, really. Why aren’t you, the academics, filling in these blanks? But they get access to things I don’t (digs, the Bodleian library) so we can call it division of labour
let them who think they are wise in this world today,,,,,they should become a fool to be wise; I like your programe I just discovered; Keep eem coming,
Here in Greater London, between Ilford and Barking, there is Loxford Water flowing into the River Roding (the name Roding is of Saxon date). The British river name was Hyle, hence Ilford. At the confluence of the Roding and 'Lox is Uphall Iron Age camp.
I thought you were going to take a look at Kelston Hill after seeing it in the background. Have you ever been to Maes Knoll south of Bristol ? It's Marked as a iron age Fort but I'm not convinced.
On a recent video we spoke about a river with the word root erg / erge (?) meaning white and shiny and commented on the Roman word Argentum (silver) being the same. Do you think the river Avon from Arfenan may have a similar derivation?
Well, knowing the budget of most Uni history departments they probably won't have the bus fare to get there. Off to a lecture on the Kingdom of Strathclyde this evening, hoping there will be a nugget of info I've not come across before. It'll fill the evening up ... I think I've worked out the western end of the Antonine Wall problem. Came to me at 5 o'clock this morning (never trust middle of the night ideas) thanks to, of all things, the HS2 debacle and the way in which I walked it (wall not trainline 😊)
@@AllotmentFox It really would help if you read all of the comment that people responded with. The problem and unanswered question of why did the western end of the Antonine Wall drifts down to the Clyde beneath the overlooking and glowering Kilpatrick Hills in such a militarily dubious (and frankly inept) way. And yes, after years of pondering, I think I know why.
@@iainmc9859there are only 3 comments in this thread, one where you mentioning a Antonine Wall problem, another where I ask what problem and a third where you tell me off for not reading all the thread.
@@AllotmentFoxApologies, I'm busy trying find where it went. I remember it was in direct response to a discussion you were also having with someone else about roads being used as bounderies. You asked something like 'You're northern, you'd know about the frontier there' . What video was that ???
Akeman Street is the road to Bath, from Aquae (Sulis) Minerva < Ake Min Street. A similar corruption led to the use of Watling Street for almost any Roman road, when it at first only referred to the road (from London?) to Saint Alban's. This is a corruption of the Roman period name Verulamium, which became in A Saxon times Wreclingastrata, further changed over time to Watlinga Strata
Not to challenge the watling street thesis- but it occurs to me the wreclingastrata > walting street contraction better fits wroxceter. This is because wroc pertains to the tribe /area Wroxeter was named after - seen all over the marches area- i.e wrekin /wroxceter /wrexham. And it was the ulitmate destination of the road - so id be interested in how the working for verulamium is more parsimonious
Nagging at me. On an unnamed stream feeding the River Clyst (west of Broadclyst, Devon) were Loxbrook Bridge and Little Loxbrook. Clyst is a British river name.
Everything depends on the questions which are being asked. The academics or anyone else simply haven't asked the questions you have which lead to new answers. . It's all fascinating. I think the Anglo Saxons became rather sloppy in their speech and put the emphasis on the first syllable of a word and sort of swallowed the rest which is why our English is not like German for example. They got rid of most inflections like that. And also started to rely on the ing form. Another useful short cut to all sorts of words.
Yes at the end of the video. According to my statistics no one has reached the end of the video so it shall remain obscure. Ok, it is the staenihtan weg, or Stoney Way
Ache man street is folk entomological nonsense. Bath is named Akemancester in the Anglo Saxon Chronicle in the 8th century. Hence Akeman - Street leading there.
I do like the visual digressions for blooms or vegetative patterns, make no excuses for your art school experience😊 Postulating corrections to perceived norms, especially evidenced as you do, can only improve our knowledge of the nearly lost past, keep it up! The academics may not like it, but once it’s out there, it’s down to them to refute it with evidence of their own.😊
Still unsure how you manage two videos a week! Another huge feather in the cap of the Allotment Fox I feel.
Thanks, Paul. I have free time now and after 450 videos the edit is quicker now. I hit the editing with aggression: throw everything onto the timeline and rough it out but if I start to watch what I am editing the plan unravels.
'Mr Fox' it's not arrogant to question authority, it's curiosity. Fascinating to find out new information - at nearly 3k subs someone's listening... PS the photography is real, love it 👍👍 aren't those spindle trees ancient indicators?
Ex-academic here. 'Your betters' do nothing more than what you are doing. The only difference is they have trained in constructing and conducting research in general, and are competent in writing formally academic arguments. Your view is entirely valid, and incredibly valuable. What you're doing 6:30 is of value and importance. Please find an academic who works in early medieval history and approach them for a chat about your work.
You’re too kind. There are two other locations I have considered writing up to be hopefully published by the local antiquarian societies. The fact is social media is way more immediate and far-reaching. But how permanent is it? Maybe I should start writing it up.
Book!
Great video, thank you. You’re as good as anyone else to make a ‘discovery’. In astronomy it’s often the ‘amateurs’ (so called) who with their wider-angle lenses make important new sightings of planets and phenomena. Keep your lenses wide-angle and you may well make a few more discoveries. Besides, you’re the one who gets out on the ground… Les
Fascinating walk and some excellent drone shots and photography.
Why shouldn't you make a discovery? What you explained made perfect sense to me. I've never seen these charters, are you able to show them on your videos? Or point me in the right direction I'm also curious to know how a stone wall can dated.
Tweedy will love the Komorebi on show👌👌
Great video, well done!!
Interesting and relaxing video!
Great video, and a great discovery, it's great that's there's still so much history to uncover. I'd love to know if you have your routes available so I could have a wonder and find the landmarks, I live right by where this was filmed. I've only recently discovered Allotment Fox, and I'm glad I have, combining my interests in maps, walking, history and etymology. Brilliant!
That's my local patch! 😊 If you're in the area again, please could you investigate the Anglo-Saxon boundary, currently in the grounds of Bath Spa Uni, known as Hurl Stone. It is the point where three ancient parishes meet, and the name intrigues me, looking to know more about it. Love your videos, enjoyed your collab with Darren, thank you for your answer to my question on his video, much obliged!
I’ve done I think three videos on Corston, is it that university campus that you mean? I don’t remember a hurl stone, I should dig around
@AllotmentFox It's on the Somerset HER, a spur of land between one of the ponds and a small stream: the tripoint where the boundaries of Newton, Stanton, and Corston meet. I'd be much obliged to you, the name Hurl Stone is definitely intriguing, and according the HER, the location was already described as ancient in the AS charter. I walked over there recently and it's definitely worth a look, although not as easy to get to as it seems 😂
I’ve got a children’s stone, a lonely stone and a Wimund’s stone from the Corston area and no Hurl Stone yet. Still looking. If you have access to that spur of land I would appreciate having a chat because there is an old wall and the Wansdyke there as well as the Children’s stone
It would be interesting to do a video about charters and perambulations and where you find them and what resources there are available.
It is a little bit boring, but I ought to. In the meantime I can say I am forced to google “electronic sawyer” + name-of-town then tediously sift through the results. Then, when I find something useful I go through the jumble of Latin until I find good old, coarse English and then start translating with the OS map on the other side of the screen
We absolutely are riveted to your videos.
You’re too kind, I don’t know what to say. Thank you!
Of course rhe Ernie tribe used to deliver a wide variety of dairy produce on the backs of their wicker chariots.
And fast too!
😂
I love the visuals along the way--I go to full screen and relax.
At some point you'll have to engage with those guys who don't take you seriously, not for your sake, but for the sake of knowledge going forward. I doubt there are many (any?) others who have spend the time you have with the documents and in the field, and your knowledge should be preserved, in print as well as on UA-cam.
It was a sort-of call to arms, really. Why aren’t you, the academics, filling in these blanks? But they get access to things I don’t (digs, the Bodleian library) so we can call it division of labour
let them who think they are wise in this world today,,,,,they should become a fool to be wise; I like your programe I just discovered; Keep eem coming,
Here in Greater London, between Ilford and Barking, there is Loxford Water flowing into the River Roding (the name Roding is of Saxon date). The British river name was Hyle, hence Ilford. At the confluence of the Roding and 'Lox is Uphall Iron Age camp.
Are you a toponymist?
I thought you were going to take a look at Kelston Hill after seeing it in the background. Have you ever been to Maes Knoll south of Bristol ? It's Marked as a iron age Fort but I'm not convinced.
On a recent video we spoke about a river with the word root erg / erge (?) meaning white and shiny and commented on the Roman word Argentum (silver) being the same. Do you think the river Avon from Arfenan may have a similar derivation?
04:28 - the fastest milkman in the west 🥛 🐴
Well, knowing the budget of most Uni history departments they probably won't have the bus fare to get there.
Off to a lecture on the Kingdom of Strathclyde this evening, hoping there will be a nugget of info I've not come across before. It'll fill the evening up ...
I think I've worked out the western end of the Antonine Wall problem. Came to me at 5 o'clock this morning (never trust middle of the night ideas) thanks to, of all things, the HS2 debacle and the way in which I walked it (wall not trainline 😊)
What western end of Anton8ne wall problem? Tell me more
@@AllotmentFox It really would help if you read all of the comment that people responded with.
The problem and unanswered question of why did the western end of the Antonine Wall drifts down to the Clyde beneath the overlooking and glowering Kilpatrick Hills in such a militarily dubious (and frankly inept) way.
And yes, after years of pondering, I think I know why.
@@iainmc9859there are only 3 comments in this thread, one where you mentioning a Antonine Wall problem, another where I ask what problem and a third where you tell me off for not reading all the thread.
@@AllotmentFoxApologies, I'm busy trying find where it went. I remember it was in direct response to a discussion you were also having with someone else about roads being used as bounderies. You asked something like 'You're northern, you'd know about the frontier there' . What video was that ???
@@AllotmentFox Seaton video nestled under replies to Daniel Ferguson. Apologies about the confusion.
Akeman Street is the road to Bath, from Aquae (Sulis) Minerva < Ake Min Street. A similar corruption led to the use of Watling Street for almost any Roman road, when it at first only referred to the road (from London?) to Saint Alban's. This is a corruption of the Roman period name Verulamium, which became in A Saxon times Wreclingastrata, further changed over time to Watlinga Strata
Not to challenge the watling street thesis- but it occurs to me the wreclingastrata > walting street contraction better fits wroxceter. This is because wroc pertains to the tribe /area Wroxeter was named after - seen all over the marches area- i.e wrekin /wroxceter /wrexham. And it was the ulitmate destination of the road - so id be interested in how the working for verulamium is more parsimonious
Sorry i think my whole idea is down to the inclusion of a c . Waetlingaceaster was the saxon name for virulanium, which yeah- speaks for itself.
@@elbapo7 wreclingastrata seems similar to Wreocan-saete (Wrekin settlers/folk) Viroconium/Wroxeter was the 4th largest city.
Another explanation for Akeman is ‘the ache man street’
I am convinced :)
Thank you, I need a boost
Nagging at me. On an unnamed stream feeding the River Clyst (west of Broadclyst, Devon) were Loxbrook Bridge and Little Loxbrook. Clyst is a British river name.
That’s interesting, I have made a note
Everything depends on the questions which are being asked. The academics or anyone else simply haven't asked the questions you have which lead to new answers. . It's all fascinating. I think the Anglo Saxons became rather sloppy in their speech and put the emphasis on the first syllable of a word and sort of swallowed the rest which is why our English is not like German for example. They got rid of most inflections like that. And also started to rely on the ing form. Another useful short cut to all sorts of words.
They miss things all the time because they don't do the kind of fieldwork you do.
I see no reason why it should not be named the stoney or stone way .
WELL DO YOU!?!?
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Yes at the end of the video. According to my statistics no one has reached the end of the video so it shall remain obscure. Ok, it is the staenihtan weg, or Stoney Way
You’re not a fraud, you spend your time reading and walking the paths and roads while the academics sit pontificating in their ivory towers
More an imposter. I’ve done 400 videos so its not going to stop me
Ache man street is folk entomological nonsense. Bath is named Akemancester in the Anglo Saxon Chronicle in the 8th century. Hence Akeman - Street leading there.
Nonsense eh? Have you asked yourself why Bath is called Akemancester?