Actually the female Goblin at the end is what is referred to as a "Goblinette" and there was supposed to be plenty of them, they were gonna be teenage girls who assisted Norman but Raimi despised the idea and thankfully scrapped it.
Trust me they wouldn't they arent man enough to put a BIG as spider in a illusion scene in far from home. Do to "it's to scary for children" bs Thats why Sony should finish the Tobey's franchise or get an new actor for spiderman in the venom verse movies. And yes I saw the morbius trailer it had only one actor that was from Tom's version but who cares let's slap in a new spidey or bring back Garfield
Part of me really wishes Rami would’ve gone with a more fleshy, uglier look on the goblin There are screen tests out there of Defoe trying out a mixture of an animatronic mask for the goblin which closely resembles the classic version and my god those facial expressions were hOrIfYiNg I saw the movie as a kid and personally there were times it felt somewhat horror-esque Not surprised since Rami directed the Evil Dead series But like there was a jump scare from the goblin, he traumatized Aunt May by breaking into her house and forcing her to finish her prayer as if God would help her in that moment The old lady in the building the Goblin pretended to be And the transformation scene from Norman to the Goblin Imagine a more horror looking Goblin than the mechanical suit we got in the final release Yes maybe pushing it but honestly it would’ve made the Goblin design much MUCH more interesting for me
They were concerned about the screen time necessary to justify if he had an articulated mask or some kind of smart skin. That's why they breezed through the tech in the first act. "I've already seen the glider!" But yeah those designs that Amalgamated Dynamics made were freaking awesome.
I agree, animatronic mask and less metal suit would be great. Also problem is that suit should be more muscled if that serum make him stronger, he would pretend like having more muscles in suit.
13:05 - 13:31 Miles Teeves, the artist who did the artworks actually told the story behind this version of the Goblin recently. The main idea was that Norman had conceived some kind of biomechanical mask who would merge with his skin once he put in on. Apparently the mask who would come to life on it's own, "twitching and breathing" on his stand. Think of it like a tech version of Loki's Mask. A very creepy and haunting concept, but maybe a little too much for what they were going for, especially with the mask coming to life on it's own. How would you even justify this to a board meeting for military gear ?
@@mikez4388 To be honesr I do think the team shot themselves in the foot when they decided to link the costume and mask to Norman's profession. He's a rich weirdo and genius. That would have been enough for me.
I think the eyes were visible in the first mask as an example of where the eyes would be under the mask so the costume designers could have an example of where to put them.
@@jaredballoonboy7944 I'm not kidding, I think it looks good. For some reason, I really like late 90's/early 2000's CG animation. I guess I just like the plastic cartoon aesthetic.
I read an early draft he was always gonna have webs as one of his powers it is explained that he made the web shooters so he can control the direction that the webs go
The thing about the one with the orange boots, is like yea the artist must've LOVED William Dafoe because there's no reason for him to have his knees together and his feet like that, LOL. You can clearly see how his feet are meant to stand on the glider! And posing like that would just throw off his balance!
I honestly think green goblin has a comic design which just would not translate well to the screen, I actually really love what raimi did and that helmet is absolutely iconic
Here’s an idea for a Spider-Man reboot movie if Sony got the rights back from Marvel: • It would involve an older, experienced Peter Parker (has been Spider-Man for about 10 to 16 years) * NO ORIGIN STORY (but flashbacks involving Uncle Ben and Pete’s childhood is okay) Peter “Ben” Parker- A midway point between Blonde Peter and Peter B Parker in “Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse”, he’s not a beloved, successful celebrity but he’s not a depressed, jaded sad sack either. • He has a job as a scientist at Horizon Labs. • Mary- Jane Watson is the prime love interest/ fiancée/ confidant • Black Cat would be an “anti-heroic” femme fatale type. The main influences are Dan Slott’s Spider-Man “Big Time” and the Insomniac PS4 game. I know it’s off-topic but I like to know your opinion, Channel Pup!
@@amazingjay3957 They can't just pull out randomly. There are contracts in place. But once those are through they can either pull out or renew. Either way they wouldn't reboot like OP is hoping.
He wasn't on a disc it's just a difficult angle to see what it really is like for most people if u look closer to the bottom "disc" u can see a gap between the both which seem to have a Lazer like force between
Frankly, I really like the 1:57 Spider-Man look. It's still Spider-Man enough to be recognized, but different enough for it to be recognizable. I could definitely see someone like Todd MacFarlane using this design in some of his artwork (minus the translucent eyes, replace that with comic-accurate white for God's sake)
I actually like the first Spider-Man costume. It looks awesome with the webbing. And I like how the lenses are bigger- I much prefer big lenses when we’re talking about Spider-Man
If i were to make a spidey suit, it would be a hybrid between the raimi suit and superior spiderman suit. But, id also use the coloring to make it almost look as though he has shoulder pads. There would also be more red going down the legs.
I think 13:25 is supposed to be a mask, you can really tell when you look at the eyes. But there’s a video on UA-cam showing an animatronic goblin mask, and I think that concept art is what they were gonna go with at first. I really wish they did (Edit): The Animatronic Goblin Mask: ua-cam.com/video/W8PVMT2AmWE/v-deo.html
Good concept art, especially the suits. As much as i like Green Goblin, i would prefer to see Roderick Kingsley /Hobgoblin, the employer of MJ, billionaire, has twin brother Daniel, stealing Goblin tech from Oscorp and alters them with the yellow skin mask and glider which Goblin has been used already three times in films of Norman in Raimi movie, Harry in Raimi movie, and Harry in the Amazing movie. This character would be cool to see in MCU or standalone Spidey film as main villain.
Spiderman artists: - Miles Teves Green Goblin artists: - Warren Manser - Miles Teves - Jim Martin - Jim Carson BTW you are missing Alex Ross designs Other Spiderman Artwork: raimiverse.wordpress.com/2018/12/04/spider-man-2002-a-different-look-part-one/ Link to Herarld Belker pumking bombs for the films : www.haraldbelker.com/entertainment-design/weapons-props/
6:07 actually you can see a glimpse of a web shooter nozzle during the scene where he sets Mary Jane down in the park, after norman’s attack at the fair. It’s only for like one frame tho
4:53 Funny thing; in his first appearance, the way Spider-Man is drawn is to be slender and janky and creepy from the start. His creators originally worked on horror novels and it partially carried over with Spider-Man being contorted and in odd positions 90% of the times. Also, the way he’s colored in the first issue implies that his colors are supposed to be red and black (since the blue highlights was usually used for black objects in the light, look at Venom and the black suits).
Comic illustrations of costumed characters with exaggerated muscles is because artists are illustrating anatomy, the Greek God thing too, but it's kinda all about the muscles, stuff like that works better in the comics, but for movie adaptations of characters like spiderman and superman they still have pads under the suits to get that definition.
2:01 this isn't new. I used to have this as a desktop background 20+ years ago. In fact, most of those Spidey suits I had the pictures for. I even tried to use one to make a skin for Unreal Tournament, despite having no idea what I was doing. First time I ever saved something in a .tif format.
Talking about the Green Goblin... I believe that the Flash Thompson from the MCU's Spider-Man movies is not actually Flash "Thompson" but rather Flash (Harry) Osbourne... and that would be a pretty huge twist...
All these green goblin concepts look so much better than the final one and the final one looks okay but it makes him look skinny and just terrible in my opinion like the military and the one after that looks so dope
Actually the female Goblin at the end is what is referred to as a "Goblinette" and there was supposed to be plenty of them, they were gonna be teenage girls who assisted Norman but Raimi despised the idea and thankfully scrapped it.
Yeah that sounds really dumb.
wait tte oh no i know where bowsette name come from now
LMAO i thought norman turned into a transgender 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Interesting
Norma Osbourne
4:10 "Aunt May said it's my turn on the xbox"
😂
I also hope that when or if Marvel Studios introduce Norman Osborn/Green Goblin they look at those concept arts.
Trust me they wouldn't they arent man enough to put a BIG as spider in a illusion scene in far from home.
Do to "it's to scary for children" bs
Thats why Sony should finish the Tobey's franchise or get an new actor for spiderman in the venom verse movies.
And yes I saw the morbius trailer it had only one actor that was from Tom's version but who cares let's slap in a new spidey or bring back Garfield
@@JordanWheeler1999 You're right that's why they did a zombie Iron Man in Far From Home......
They proabbly gon make him gay
@@DullyPrimary harry doesn't exist in the mcu or does he ? Isn't ned Pete's "bestfriend" not harry ?
@@DullyPrimary they'll probably change it up maybe harry won't exist in the mcu look @ what they did to MJ
“Hey Green Goblin, thats a cute handbag, did your husband give it to you?”
CaUsE yOu CaN gEt A wAy BeTtEr HaNdBaG fRoM zEnTaI zOnE
Part of me really wishes Rami would’ve gone with a more fleshy, uglier look on the goblin
There are screen tests out there of Defoe trying out a mixture of an animatronic mask for the goblin which closely resembles the classic version and my god those facial expressions were hOrIfYiNg
I saw the movie as a kid and personally there were times it felt somewhat horror-esque
Not surprised since Rami directed the Evil Dead series
But like there was a jump scare from the goblin, he traumatized Aunt May by breaking into her house and forcing her to finish her prayer as if God would help her in that moment
The old lady in the building the Goblin pretended to be
And the transformation scene from Norman to the Goblin
Imagine a more horror looking Goblin than the mechanical suit we got in the final release
Yes maybe pushing it but honestly it would’ve made the Goblin design much MUCH more interesting for me
They were concerned about the screen time necessary to justify if he had an articulated mask or some kind of smart skin. That's why they breezed through the tech in the first act. "I've already seen the glider!" But yeah those designs that Amalgamated Dynamics made were freaking awesome.
I agree, animatronic mask and less metal suit would be great. Also problem is that suit should be more muscled if that serum make him stronger, he would pretend like having more muscles in suit.
13:05 - 13:31
Miles Teeves, the artist who did the artworks actually told the story behind this version of the Goblin recently.
The main idea was that Norman had conceived some kind of biomechanical mask who would merge with his skin once he put in on. Apparently the mask who would come to life on it's own, "twitching and breathing" on his stand. Think of it like a tech version of Loki's Mask.
A very creepy and haunting concept, but maybe a little too much for what they were going for, especially with the mask coming to life on it's own. How would you even justify this to a board meeting for military gear ?
Perhaps a mask that's meant to be used for stealth/disguises?
@@mikez4388 To be honesr I do think the team shot themselves in the foot when they decided to link the costume and mask to Norman's profession.
He's a rich weirdo and genius. That would have been enough for me.
@@jihef03 Agreed
He activates the webshooters with a double click or an exact pressure of strength so they won't activate at a rock concert.
Lol
Nice way to ruin a joke
bistopher so? It’s a fact.
@@cyclopsegg4735 you're ruining a perfectly good joke with Spiderman trivia everyone knows
bistopher not everyone knows it and it’s Spider-Man
I think the eyes were visible in the first mask as an example of where the eyes would be under the mask so the costume designers could have an example of where to put them.
2:35 I'm sorry, how did Spider-Man: The New Animated Series age badly? I think it looks great.
Idk it just doesn't sit right with me personally
In live action it would be cool
ᴇᴠᴇʀɪᴋ Are you blind????? Have you seen how bad the animation of the show looks for today's standards?
@@jaredballoonboy7944 animation was a little laggy but the stories still hold up
@@jaredballoonboy7944 I'm not kidding, I think it looks good. For some reason, I really like late 90's/early 2000's CG animation. I guess I just like the plastic cartoon aesthetic.
3:30 I’m not going to lie, I dig the stripes running up the legs.
Kinda reminiscent of the TASM Spider-Man actually
Me too
2:02 -- That's Morbius's house, man. Spidey's looking for pLaSmA!
I read an early draft he was always gonna have webs as one of his powers it is explained that he made the web shooters so he can control the direction that the webs go
12:20 me at 3am baked af trying to sneak snacks in to my room
?
Literally
What do you mean by "baked" ? You cooked yourself ? :/
Apurva Nayak he’s high asl😂
2:38
*Evan Filarca would like to know your location*
The thing about the one with the orange boots, is like yea the artist must've LOVED William Dafoe because there's no reason for him to have his knees together and his feet like that, LOL. You can clearly see how his feet are meant to stand on the glider! And posing like that would just throw off his balance!
7:40 Omg that brings back memories, Arsenic Candy Girls theme from Spider-Man 3 The Game
As a prototype fan. Im looking forward Venom 2. Is the closest thing we will ever get as a Prototype movie. and still wqiting for a new Prototype
9:38 Spiderman: Once Upon a Time the UFOs.
I honestly think green goblin has a comic design which just would not translate well to the screen, I actually really love what raimi did and that helmet is absolutely iconic
I remember that when I was young I would draw Spider-Man with webs everywhere including the blue areas
Here’s an idea for a Spider-Man reboot movie if Sony got the rights back from Marvel:
• It would involve an older, experienced Peter Parker (has been Spider-Man for about 10 to 16 years)
* NO ORIGIN STORY (but flashbacks involving Uncle Ben and Pete’s childhood is okay)
Peter “Ben” Parker- A midway point between Blonde Peter and Peter B Parker in “Spider-Man Into the Spider-Verse”, he’s not a beloved, successful celebrity but he’s not a depressed, jaded sad sack either.
• He has a job as a scientist at Horizon Labs.
• Mary- Jane Watson is the prime love interest/ fiancée/ confidant
• Black Cat would be an “anti-heroic” femme fatale type.
The main influences are Dan Slott’s Spider-Man “Big Time” and the Insomniac PS4 game.
I know it’s off-topic but I like to know your opinion, Channel Pup!
Sony does still have the rights they and marvel just have a sharing deal
@@amazingjay3957 They can't just pull out randomly. There are contracts in place. But once those are through they can either pull out or renew. Either way they wouldn't reboot like OP is hoping.
How about no? Just keep using Tom and get a different writer
Dummy Thicc Green Goblin isn’t real he can’t hurt you
Dummy Thicc Green Goblin:
12:04
LOVED the last Spider-Man suit concept art with the dark and gritty brooklyn bridge. Really oozing that Sam Raimi feel.
He wasn't on a disc it's just a difficult angle to see what it really is like for most people if u look closer to the bottom "disc" u can see a gap between the both which seem to have a Lazer like force between
Frankly, I really like the 1:57 Spider-Man look. It's still Spider-Man enough to be recognized, but different enough for it to be recognizable. I could definitely see someone like Todd MacFarlane using this design in some of his artwork (minus the translucent eyes, replace that with comic-accurate white for God's sake)
Yeah that just looks like it could be an artist's way of drawing the suit in the comics.
I actually like the first Spider-Man costume.
It looks awesome with the webbing.
And I like how the lenses are bigger- I much prefer big lenses when we’re talking about Spider-Man
Nah this is old, I have a behind the scenes book for spiderman the movie from 2002 and that same spider suit was in that
bigwhopper6501 that was an Easter egg towards the original concept for the suit 🤦♂️
@@mcutheoriesnews9374 what was?
yep, hace the same book. all the concepts shown here are the same as in the making of book from spiderman 1
Yep.
bigwhopper6501 do you still have it
If i were to make a spidey suit, it would be a hybrid between the raimi suit and superior spiderman suit. But, id also use the coloring to make it almost look as though he has shoulder pads. There would also be more red going down the legs.
7:27 HOW DID CHANNEL PUP GOT AWAY WITH THIS???
I think 13:25 is supposed to be a mask, you can really tell when you look at the eyes. But there’s a video on UA-cam showing an animatronic goblin mask, and I think that concept art is what they were gonna go with at first. I really wish they did
(Edit): The Animatronic Goblin Mask: ua-cam.com/video/W8PVMT2AmWE/v-deo.html
5:50 I always liked that scene
10:09 mat be the disk is a reference to Jack O'Lantern.
10:48 WHY did you sneak that in there?
“How did that get in there?”
2:01 ah yes the iconic scene were spidey broke into WAYNE MANYOR
Good concept art, especially the suits. As much as i like Green Goblin, i would prefer to see Roderick Kingsley /Hobgoblin, the employer of MJ, billionaire, has twin brother Daniel, stealing Goblin tech from Oscorp and alters them with the yellow skin mask and glider which Goblin has been used already three times in films of Norman in Raimi movie, Harry in Raimi movie, and Harry in the Amazing movie. This character would be cool to see in MCU or standalone Spidey film as main villain.
When the movie came out I got this magazine with different concept ideas that were pretty cool. Some of them are shown here.
Pup: *uploads Raimi Spider-Man Video*
Pup fans: “Oh boi yea”
2:03Anyone notice the shadow is an actual spider?!
Sam Hinton no it’s not...
I don't see it
That does not look like a spider
I can see it. Doesn’t look exactly *like* a spider but I can see kind of a cartoony looking spider in the shadow.
Ian Boudreau no
I've always wondered how Raimi's Spider-Man got his costume.
He's just wearing it all of a sudden.
I remember seeing some of the concept art on the second Spider-man 1 dvd
7:03 we got bigger explosions in that movie, honestly I swear to god you haven't seen the movies in years!
Wow the Green Goblin Comic accuracy is dope, I don't knkw why they didn't went with that
Concept art is always fascinating to look at.
Spiderman artists:
- Miles Teves
Green Goblin artists:
- Warren Manser
- Miles Teves
- Jim Martin
- Jim Carson
BTW you are missing Alex Ross designs
Other Spiderman Artwork: raimiverse.wordpress.com/2018/12/04/spider-man-2002-a-different-look-part-one/
Link to Herarld Belker pumking bombs for the films : www.haraldbelker.com/entertainment-design/weapons-props/
6:07 actually you can see a glimpse of a web shooter nozzle during the scene where he sets Mary Jane down in the park, after norman’s attack at the fair. It’s only for like one frame tho
9:01- 9:03 they should’ve used that helmet design it’s pretty cool
I still like the first Amazing Spider-Man film. I think it improves on the Raimi films.
That Spider-Man 3 game score music in the background is so nostalgic now. I didn't like it as much as I do now
I love the suit design at 1:09
13:48 That looks like the outfit that the 80s Starfire wore
I would’ve preferred the first concept over the suit we got.
Blasphemy
Me too
I would as well but I would add the eye thing little more that we can’t see the eyes bur I would prefere this design way better
We need Spider-Man 4!!!!!
I like the MTV Spider-Man series
me too
In the raimi movies you are always able to see Spider-Man’s eyes through the mask though.
4:44 Superior Spider-Man
It looks very similar
*"Willem Defoe?, More like Willem DeTHICC"*
BRUH💀💀
4:53 Funny thing; in his first appearance, the way Spider-Man is drawn is to be slender and janky and creepy from the start. His creators originally worked on horror novels and it partially carried over with Spider-Man being contorted and in odd positions 90% of the times.
Also, the way he’s colored in the first issue implies that his colors are supposed to be red and black (since the blue highlights was usually used for black objects in the light, look at Venom and the black suits).
Awesome video man. The best UA-cam channel to get Spider Suit trivia
Channel pup your channel is one of my favorite channel to get spiderman and other movie/cartoon info I really like your channel alot
spiderman 3 the game's final mission soundtrack is playing on background
11:15 green goblin looks sick af. It’s my favorite from this video for sure.
I love the ombré on the legs in the first art piece he showed. Idk. It was just very pretty.
That spider-man 3 game background music brings back memories
13:37 "What?"
13:40 "oh you can't do this to me"
"DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED?"
Comic illustrations of costumed characters with exaggerated muscles is because artists are illustrating anatomy, the Greek God thing too, but it's kinda all about the muscles, stuff like that works better in the comics, but for movie adaptations of characters like spiderman and superman they still have pads under the suits to get that definition.
The 2002 Spider-Man suit is the best version of the suit
spider-man 3 game music 😍😍
8:19 oh Rosie I love this design
I just discovered your channel, and it’s great!
The concept suit is 10x better
Aside from the eyes tho the shape of them are AMAZING
The spiderman 3 ps2 background music got me WET
2:01 this isn't new. I used to have this as a desktop background 20+ years ago. In fact, most of those Spidey suits I had the pictures for. I even tried to use one to make a skin for Unreal Tournament, despite having no idea what I was doing. First time I ever saved something in a .tif format.
2:35 gonna put some dirt in your eye...
Whaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!?! Raimi is coming back to make another Spider-man! HELL YEAH!
Unpopular opinion : I like the gg suit in spider man
Talking about the Green Goblin... I believe that the Flash Thompson from the MCU's Spider-Man movies is not actually Flash "Thompson" but rather Flash (Harry) Osbourne... and that would be a pretty huge twist...
concept artwork and suit designed book came out I like alot of what I saw
U deserve more subs ur top tend are great!
I’m gonna use some ideas thanks
11:54 thick goblin 🤣🤣🤣
Sam raimi*regrets* about his decision for venom
Me: you should've thought of that earlier
6:03
Love this❗️🕷🕸
13:17
Pffffft🤣
Just a little heads up the Alex Ross was supposed to be used in the movie
All these green goblin concepts look so much better than the final one and the final one looks okay but it makes him look skinny and just terrible in my opinion like the military and the one after that looks so dope
Now that you mention it review of the mtv spiderman
11:52
Mmmm......Steamed Hams.
Really really dig the first suit in the video
theory
tnas lenses are based off the drawing peter drew that’s placed in the briefcase
And now raime is doing Doctor strange 2... Crazy how the world works
great job on this video
4:07 kinda looks like the suit they used in The Amazing Spider-Man to be honest.
Oh fuck I wasn't ready for that intro lmaooo
So .... ..... .... Woman Dafoe?
I like how your refer Norman Osborn to Willam Dafoe 😂
I like the suit idea
The suit with his eyes barely visible is from James Cameron’s spiderman
*“What’s cracka lackin my fellow home dogs”*
~channel pup
11:08 Am i the only one who thinks he looks like a pharah demon from justice league
*11:08*
@@sethvella thanks I'm not sure why it didn't work
@@derp-7274 np :)
MTV Spider-Man was dope asf
Just by the thumbnail I know this is going to be interesting
Just met your channel, good content man