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I'm pretty sure even if Sayaka heard the footsteps she still wouldn't be able to escape because there was no way out. Theres literally no way for her to live except if she didn't want to kill somebody 😭
I kinda agree with you.But the victims can't predict the future or something. So they wouldn't wear helmet. (Also, some weapon that the culprit use are strong and can break helmets)
If I remember correctly, Miu was actually hesitating when she went to confront Kokichi. She was either scared, or she genuinely didn't want to kill and simply felt trapped. Most likely a combination of both.
Bro like half of the murders happened during the middle night , the easiest way to survive is to literally just not leave your room after the nighttime announcement
Now that I think about it, nagito could have made his case even worse... so the current understanding of nagitos case is the fact that 1 of the 6 bottles had the poison in it that killed him or made him drop the spear, and the students were coerced into throwing the bottles because of the fire. Nagito could have filled every fire grenade with poison, and the same result would have happened. His plan was based around luck, so it didn't matter if there was one culprit or all 6. Nagito could have won the trial if he did a few other things as well. Firstly, nagito should have done a few things so the group didn't find out he set up his own murder scene. If he burned part of his clothing onto burning his rope, then it would be less likely for the group to think that nagito had a hand free to commit the murder. He also could have cut some of his lip before putting tape over his mouth obfuscating the order of events that led to his demise. Nagito was found to have set up this case because there was only blood over the tape, not under it. This leads me to my personal favorite way nagito could have set up this trial however, where instead of the poison, he could have used a trail of chemicals to lead from the gas lighters location to nagitos body. By doing this, the person that kicks the door open is the person that killed him because they were the one that set off the domino chain of monokuma panels, which landed on the lighter, which started the fire, which would burn nagitos hand, causing him to drop the spear. Granted, this is significantly more painful, but he already cut himself a ridiculous amount of times to make himself look tortured. If I were him, I would have taken so many pain killers before this. Whats also cool about the fire plan as well, is that if nagito didn't hold the cord that kept the gungnir spear hoisted on the metal girder, the fire could've burned the cord until the spear fell. This cements that the person who started the fire killed nagito, and also hides even more evidence, being the fact that blood isn't found near the end of the cord as nagito had held that part while he played stabby stabby with himself had no blood on it as he held that part and the blood was on his hand. Ontop of the fire nagito idea, he can hide the final pieces of evidence that got him caught, the blood on the metal girder and the monokuma plushie with blood on it. By the fire burning the cord that holds the spear in the air it also stops there from needing to be blood on the spear, so there wouldnt be any blood on the overhead girder further complicating the crime, and finally the plushie nagito used to prop up the knife he stabbed his hand with would have burned in the fire as well, which doesn't hide the ashes of the monokuma plushie being there. But it would hide that his blood is on it, thus hiding he used it to prop up the knife. Looking over nagitos case again, he could've hid all possible evidence that he is the culprit behind this crime just by using fire. On top of this, he could've made his intentions significantly more. Firstly he should have left the future foundation files inside of the warehouse along with monomi's book. This way, he burns the evidence that mononi knows about the final dead room, and chiaki can't prove she is the traitor, (Granted, if nagito burns the files, the group never knows they are the remnants of despair. Thus, it would have led to junko winning, as too many students died for the emergency override protocol to activate.) But this is if nagito was unlucky enough for his plan to succeed so onwards! He shouldn't have acted so suspicious before his death. His last human interaction with the remaining survivors in chapter 5 ends with him saying "it's OK the killing game will be over soon and it will all work out in the end." This kinda ruined his whole plan as the fact the group believed that nagitos motive didn't make sense to kill himself without a really good reason is how they found out that nagito tried to kill everyone besides the traitor. In Conclusion, Nagito had the second greatest chance of any danganronpa character winning a case to achieve their motive, and the only case I put in front of that is Gundham Tenaks but that's a story for another day. Nagito could have hid all evidence he set up a murder of himself and with his status as the ultimate lucky student, chiaki would have forced the door open, started the fire, burned the monokuma doll, confused the group more with the potential of poison in the fire grenades, burned his clothing which hid his intentions, bled under the duct tape so it didn't rule out that someone tortured him for answers, removed blood from the metal girder, made it hard to see on the monokuma doll, and it look normal at the end of the gungnir spear. Nagito could've hidden they were the remnants of despair, chiaki can't prove she's the traitor, and nagito would have had the greatest murder plan (one which is significantly better than kokichis in every way) Thanks for the long read! Have a good day.
Aside from the first one, these are all nice alterations to the case that would have made it more difficult. But regarding the 1st alteration, he couldn't have put poison on all the bottles since there wouldn't be enough. Idk if u remember but the poison bottle was quite small. It wouldn't have the right amount to fill 6 emergency bottles. And even if it did, the traitor (nanami) needed to be the blackened in order for his entire plan to work. If they voted wrong during the trial, "the evil remnants of despair" would all die except for the traitor.
@Eagleye I realized halfway through the essay I essentially wrote that it didn't work. However, my main idea was that it technically was a possibility for nagito to do, which would lead to interesting results despite it not conforming to his plan. As for the altercations, I felt like the core idea for this trial was great, but the first half of the trial of figuring out nagito staged this "suicide" had too much evidence in certain areas, like the whole use of domino's was a little to easy to see, I feel like the cardboard cutouts should've burned more. Maybe I'm crazy but the case feels like it got nerfed. In conclusion, let me write for the 54th danganronpa killing game or let me participate. I will 100% win.
There's one glaring problem with your reiteration that would make choosing the murderer much easier. First of all, the beauty of the fire grenade is that no one knew which one was the poison, making it unsolvable. But in your comment, you mentioned the one kicking down the door being responsible for the death, which makes it obvious who the culprit was, making the case very much solvable. It's admirable that you are trying to make something already unsolvable even more unsolvable, If you try to put it into practice, you will see the problems with it, and with that, you can solve those problems easily. Good job.
@AzazelsAutumm Very fair point. However, I'd like to note that they still don't know what killed nagito. If the fire grenade was also included, they still can't be certain if the door or the fire grenade killed him. Nagito could have made the evidence that he put poison in the fire grenades more readily available, and they couldn't be certain if the poison or the gungnir spear killed him. The spear would fall eventually, and due to the fire grenades poison being mentioned to cause death nearly instantly, all nagito would have to do would be slow the rate of the fire a little bit. This is all assuming they figured out he still could have committed the murder, and all the evidence he had a hand free was effaced. I don't think there's any evidence for them to determine that nagito set up the killing mechanism other than he had one of his ropes burned. Also, since my original post, I came to the thought that nagito could have tortured himself more as he didn't have to hold the gungnir spear. Therefore, the entirety of his body would've been equally tortured so they would have even less evidence
My headcanon is that Miu's "golden brain" actually IS brilliant but it gets so exhausted with her ultimate talent that she's just that dumb with everything else.
I don't think Hiyoko could have ran away. Her clothes were barley on her body so that hindered her from running and even if she just dropped her Kimono, she's short and obviously couldn't outrun Mikan in any event. I think she did try to get away, but Mikan was simply too fast and got her.
There was 2 or 3 ways she probably could have avoided her death 1. Just fucking deal with the kimono till morning, and when it IS morning, ask someone to tie it up for her 2. Ask Sonia to just tie it up for her instead of waiting till morning since she was already there 3. Just stop being stubborn and tie it up in the front instead of the back and then just fix it when the disease passes or it hits morning and you can safely leave your room to the music venue where the mirror was(Because nobody would commit a murder in broad daylight..excluding Peko.) Because honestly, why in the hell would you go outside of the safety of your own room/dorm/whatever it is while theres a killing game, you cant defend yourself, and theres a contagious disease going around??
@@miko9913 Well, I'm guessing Hiyoko wanted to do it herself the right way, because Mahiru taught her how to do it. She probably didn't want to disrespect her by still not knowing how to tie her Kimono. Sure, she could have waited but she didn't expect to actually run into a murder as the chances are extremely slim.
She also could've taken the mirror to her room when Sonia told her about it instead waiting till the middle of the night to use it. That's always the first thing I think of when it comes to her avoiding being killed.
@@infoshark8915 Sonia must have talked to Hiyoko in the middle of the night, there's no way she waited until it was night to use the mirror. Except she did to not be seen by anyone.
@@LmnJuc-on5tf But wasn't it in the middle of the night? Thats the most common times that murders occur. She should have at least suspected that it's dangerous to go out alone or outside in general due to the motive.
I'm not sure if Ryoma would've even been able to push himself up. Due to his height, or lack thereof, it's unlikely his feet would've been able to reach the ground, so all he'd be able to use to push himself up is the sink itself. And due to being handcuffed, with his arms already in the sink, it simply wouldn't be feasible.
@@marx-kk1rh I'm not denying how strong he is, because ofc he's ridiculously strong to be able to do that. But if you're being pinned in place, handcuffed, rapidly losing air, and not able to even reach the ground for any kind of purchase, not even all the strength in the world can save you.
so basically: Sayaka: just.. run.. Chihiro: STEP AWAY!? taka: dodge it??? or just.. idk? sakura: uh.. impoostoor: just retreat.. maheeroo: if she talked with heeyookoo bout the letter. hiyoko: nigerundayooo! (means Run Away!) ibuki: eh nekomaru: exposed shutdown button???? nageetoo: ehh idk ranteero: look around and listen??? reeyohma: push up! angee: just.. run. tenko: dont participate. miu: same thing, just look around. or just murder kokichi right away. kokeechee: drink the antidote.. just do it.
Sayaka wasn’t thinking that straight. I get the idea behind her plan. But 11037 was still a tall, masculine male. She should’ve chose a female or until his death revealed the opposite gender, chihiro. Chihiro had a better chance just fighting back…or attempting to gun straight for the door, given mondo wasn’t in his way. Mondo lifted that dumbbell pretty easily so nothing would stop him from just chasing chihiro around and trying again. I also feel Ali could’ve prevented Sakura’s unalive by just refusing to get anything for her. Mahiru…..should’ve indeed just talked to hiyoko. And if she noticed the guy who wanted revenge for his sister, and/or his right hand girl, ran for the fucking hills.
0:38 It’s stated by Mondo that he blacked out then returned to his senses after Chihiro was dead, I’m not sure how long he was blacked out but I assume after the swing he would probably calm down
In twogamis case He had multiple chances of preventing his own murder It only comes down to bad writing in my opinion - He could have checked more rooms then the 2 he checked with hajime. There he would have seen the 3 irons - He should have stopped the party as soon as items from the kitchen werent there and question Teruteru and Nagito. Because lets be serious? Teruteru somehow lost in the kitchen he spend the most time in? That was a red flag that either someone snuck in or teruteru is hiding something. - He shouldnt have crawled under the table, he simply could have stand near edge of the table, reached over the knife, let it fall and dragged it out from the table. The only reason he got killed because he went under the table for no reason when he could have used a different and better method. - Finally if he didnt get the knife, he should have restrained Nagito. With him keeping nagito at hold...him and Nagito were safe. Remember the only reason Twgami got kijled was because he was in right position and near the green light. In this scenario simce Twogami is occupied with restraining Nagito. It means that Teruteru whole plan is a bust.
Crazy someone with a Naruto pfp is talking about bad writing but what you said here is pretty fax It could also be Twogami is a dumbass, which is realistically possible thanks to the damn party he threw
Another easy way Miu could have prevented her death just Programm an emergency log out function into your avatar that automatically logs you out whenever someone tries to kill you
@@yesyesyes666based off what happened in the game, all she would’ve had to do was say to put the cords in backwards, but put her’s in correctly. Then she’d only have ti deal with Gonta because he had his backwards when she had them put them in normally, he’d likely get it right when told to put them backwards
@@reduxreality9476 yeah or maybe she can just say put the blue one first and red second instead of calling it by right hand and left hand in case she didn't know who was right handed or left handed
If she told Sonia to go get it then her life would've been saved but we all know Sonia would rather master***** in front of the cameras then actually do anything.
@@sliceninja4546 Was it in the last case in Danganronpa 2? I thought she was embarrassed for being caught having a bad stomach, as per the mentioning of her frequent toilet visits. Or was it something else?
So, almost all the victims could have survived by either paying more attention to their surronding and/or running away. Except hiyoko, she wouldn't be able to run too far with her kimono being a mess
True but, since case 3 breaks fucking logic. Im still confused that mikan was able to even catch hiyoko considering she stumbles and trips 9/10 times we see her.
Mahiru survives if she had room temperature IQ or more. The moment she stepped into the beach house and sees the guy she knows is royally pissed off at her instead of the person she was supposed to meet, she could've turned back. But even then, she could've tried to defuse the situation instead of calling out angry baby gangster. She has to be one of the dumbest character in the series EDIT: ok maybe Rentarou trying to fight 1-1 against the mastermind without weapons is even dumber.
Honestly in rantaros case he should have been more aware of his surroundings or have the foresight that him having the secret message at all was a red flag that the MM might be already knew of f(I mean lets think about it, if you were kidnapped and given the e handbooks yourself by Monokuma and you know is controlled by crazy person. Wouldn't it be better to be more cautious?).
Two ways to survive as chihiro. One, dodge. Two, try to push him away before he even grabs the weight. 1 is safe but 2 could have caused Chihiro to be the blackened
Well, Taka is too nice to be suspicious of the others/Hifumi. Hiyoko was half-wearing her kimono, so she would trip over it and got caught anyway (she is kinda clumsy/would be in panik).
Short Summary: Sayaka: Stop Being Deaf And Run Away Chihiro: *Dodge or Die* Taka: If Something Seems Sus, Look Around Dumb Idiot Sakura: _Don't Kill Yourself_ Ultimate Imposter: 1. Confiscate The Thing He Didn't Confiscate 2. Check The Room More Thoroughly 3. Escape After Securing The Knife 4. If You Didn't Do Any Of These, You're Dead Mahiru: Talk Face To Face With Hiyoko Hiyoko: Run The F#ck Away Ibuki: *Just Pretend She Didn't Die* NekoMaru: If You Want To Fight Someone, Don't Expose Your Shut Down Button Nagito: You Kinda Killed Yourself... (Also Kub Scouts Is Going To Kill You For Dying) Rantaro: Something Is Sus, So Look Around Ryoma: Make Kirumi Fall Into The Water With You, Even If It's Nearly Impossible To Do That Angie: If You Did Not Trust Korekiyo, You Would Honestly Have Another 50% Chance Of Surviving, Or Just Walk Away Tenko: Don't Join Seance, Just Dont Miu: Log Everyone Off Except Kokichi, Look Around Before Killing Kokichi, Just Punch Kokichi In The Face (Trust Me He's Weak), Don't Kill Kokichi In The First Place, Stop Being A Cum Dumpster Kokichi: Drink De Antidote, Nobody Wanted You To Die. (Why Did You Have To Die For God's Sake) -20 Minutes Of My Life For THIS-
tbh Rantaro died cause all the weed he smokes gives him shit reaction time. The shotput ball dropped right beside him and bro still took forever to react.
Honestly im.more perplexed how he didn't get that gut feeling that someone was watching him. I'm not sure what's called but you know how your body can somehow sense you are being watched.
What Ryoma should of done really was not be alone, cause Kirumi made him her target cause he didn't feel like living so after he looked at his video I'd have him be with someone like a Kaito or Shuichi basically someone that is trustworthy but is also weaker than himself in case that trusted person ends up trying to kill him, or another way for him not to die would be to not watch the video cause that caused him to be targeted by Kirumi these would be two ideas for him to not die, but since he ends up doing what he ends up doing the best option would be to grab something around him and using it to protect himself from Kirumi which in the place he's in the best thing to use would be a tennis ball
One thing I thought of for 3-4, why didn’t Miu just kill Kokichi outside of the game while everyone else was inside of it? Nobody was there to witness it and she had the ability to say “I couldn’t leave because the bridge was out” so she’d probably be trusted to “look into” the technical part of it, then blame Kaito because he “left” due to her booting him.
If hiyoko asked Sonia to go with her to the stage mikan would of been caught red handed and since you can’t kill more then 2 people mikan would be doomed.
How they could have survived in my opinion Sayaka: killed Makoto instead Chihiro: trusted Taka with his secret Taka: hide just in case Sakura: Hina saying no to the protein and taking her to the infirmary Imposter: let Nagito die Mahiru: Ignore the letter Ibuki: Sorry bae, couldn't save you 😥 Hiyoko: Not listen to Sonia's advice Nekomaru: Ask Fuyuhiko why he wasn't going to Monokuma Tai-chi Nagito: NOT TRY TO EXPOSE CHIAKI! Rantaro: Bring a group to the library Ryoma: Tell him that people around him would still be miss him Angie: Ask someone for a candle Tenko: let Himiko die Miu: Not try to kill Kokichi, plug in the cords for Gonta Kokichi: I dunno what to tell you bro
Nobody had to die in the seance. All they had to do was be creeped the F out by the setup and stop the seance entirely. If Korekiyo objects, he has at maximum 4 people and at minimum an ultimate aikido master to tango with. Even if he does have a weapon, he’s not going to come out on top in an argument if anybody in the room objects to the seance
Of all the characters, Ibuki was the most screwed, was weak from the illness, delirious, and overly gullible due to the same illness. She was never going to survive. Unless there was some way to avoid getting the despair disease
Honestly I think Nagito could have survived if he did these things. 1. If he didn’t put the poison in the fire extinguisher which Chiaki threw 2. If he didn’t torture himself (It was freaking useless) 3. He could have just told who the imposter was rather than doing an useless plan 4. He could have proved that others were cheating on him by making them the blackened. ( By summoning poison on all extinguishers) I think if he did these things correctly he could have made Chiaki live and let the others die. 😂😂😂😂😂
0:13 Although its ture mando is a lot more physically stronger and overpowering that chihiro, he killed out of anger and would've most likely cooled down if chihiro dodged because of his sense of morality. Chihiro's body type can also help with agility, so if mando DIDNT chill, he could've ran away and alerted people.
3rd option: Tenko says, oh hell no this Seance is sus to the max and beat up Korekiyo if he objects and insists on using a “volunteer” Very weird for her to go trusting her life with an actual “degenerate male”, even if it’s to save a life
Sayaka: Don’t attempt murder Chihiro: Meet up with someone else (Kiyotaka) instead of the angriest guy there, and if you’re going to be with Mondo, do it at daytime and maybe watch your mouth. If Mondo clearly looks uncomfortable, maybe stop talking Kiyotaka: Have you learned nothing from the first two cases? Don’t follow any notes Hifumi: Don’t listen to someone called the QUEEN OF LIARS Sakura: Unite everyone TOGETHER and explain yourself, then pledge allegiance towards ending the killing game Impostor: Don’t be a freaking hero Mahiru: Maybe don’t insult the angriest guy around Ibuki: Stay quarantined. Honestly, not much she could do Hiyoko: Have Sonia tie your kimono or Run away as fast as possible from Mikan Nekomaru: Kill Gundham more quickly (or just don’t agree to the duel) Nagito: Don’t succumb to despair, you hypocrite Rantaro: Don’t investigate alone Ryoma: Don’t watch your video and don’t give up on life Angie: Follow your own rules and don’t be out at night, you hypocrite Tenko: Don’t listen to the one guy who actually is a degenerate male and don’t do the seance Miu: Don’t try to kill Kokichi Kokichi: Come up with a different plan to end the killing game
Know another way Miu could have survived? Kill Shuichi. Think about it. 1. She going to kill so she can escape. 2. She framed Kaito for murder (or trying to). 3. Even if she succeeded in killing someone, Shuichi is the most dangerous person there.
@@BananaAreKool They are smart, but Kokichi has proven he’s smarter than them(except for Tsumugi) throughout the game. He knew they were in a show early on in the game, and he already figured all murder cases before everyone else in each chapter. He’s pretty much a mixture of Komaeda and Kyoko. Like Kyoko, he steered the conversation for Shuichi to figure out the murderer, but he’s similar to Komaeda about how he acts in mannerism.
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Once again: this is how to survive THE MURDER, NOT PREVENT THE MURDER ITSELF.
I already made a video like that:
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Chihiro could of lowblowed mondo and make a run for it
Nagito’s solution for all these murders: HOPE
I'm pretty sure even if Sayaka heard the footsteps she still wouldn't be able to escape because there was no way out. Theres literally no way for her to live except if she didn't want to kill somebody 😭
Honestly since most of the deaths are blunt object whacks to the head, just wear a helmet.
Trueeee
Be the ultimate medieval soldier
IKR!? Rantaro, how did you not know this?!
I kinda agree with you.But the victims can't predict the future or something.
So they wouldn't wear helmet.
(Also, some weapon that the culprit use are strong and can break helmets)
RIIIGHT? MAHIRU YOU DIDN'T KNOW THIS?
If I remember correctly, Miu was actually hesitating when she went to confront Kokichi. She was either scared, or she genuinely didn't want to kill and simply felt trapped. Most likely a combination of both.
Bro like half of the murders happened during the middle night , the easiest way to survive is to literally just not leave your room after the nighttime announcement
Or have premonition
And also not let anyone into your room at night or invite them in. Actually just don’t let anyone in your room at all.
Ya know, like Celeste said and everyone agreed on. Just a thought
Now that I think about it, nagito could have made his case even worse... so the current understanding of nagitos case is the fact that 1 of the 6 bottles had the poison in it that killed him or made him drop the spear, and the students were coerced into throwing the bottles because of the fire. Nagito could have filled every fire grenade with poison, and the same result would have happened. His plan was based around luck, so it didn't matter if there was one culprit or all 6. Nagito could have won the trial if he did a few other things as well.
Firstly, nagito should have done a few things so the group didn't find out he set up his own murder scene. If he burned part of his clothing onto burning his rope, then it would be less likely for the group to think that nagito had a hand free to commit the murder. He also could have cut some of his lip before putting tape over his mouth obfuscating the order of events that led to his demise. Nagito was found to have set up this case because there was only blood over the tape, not under it.
This leads me to my personal favorite way nagito could have set up this trial however, where instead of the poison, he could have used a trail of chemicals to lead from the gas lighters location to nagitos body. By doing this, the person that kicks the door open is the person that killed him because they were the one that set off the domino chain of monokuma panels, which landed on the lighter, which started the fire, which would burn nagitos hand, causing him to drop the spear. Granted, this is significantly more painful, but he already cut himself a ridiculous amount of times to make himself look tortured. If I were him, I would have taken so many pain killers before this. Whats also cool about the fire plan as well, is that if nagito didn't hold the cord that kept the gungnir spear hoisted on the metal girder, the fire could've burned the cord until the spear fell. This cements that the person who started the fire killed nagito, and also hides even more evidence, being the fact that blood isn't found near the end of the cord as nagito had held that part while he played stabby stabby with himself had no blood on it as he held that part and the blood was on his hand. Ontop of the fire nagito idea, he can hide the final pieces of evidence that got him caught, the blood on the metal girder and the monokuma plushie with blood on it. By the fire burning the cord that holds the spear in the air it also stops there from needing to be blood on the spear, so there wouldnt be any blood on the overhead girder further complicating the crime, and finally the plushie nagito used to prop up the knife he stabbed his hand with would have burned in the fire as well, which doesn't hide the ashes of the monokuma plushie being there. But it would hide that his blood is on it, thus hiding he used it to prop up the knife. Looking over nagitos case again, he could've hid all possible evidence that he is the culprit behind this crime just by using fire.
On top of this, he could've made his intentions significantly more. Firstly he should have left the future foundation files inside of the warehouse along with monomi's book. This way, he burns the evidence that mononi knows about the final dead room, and chiaki can't prove she is the traitor, (Granted, if nagito burns the files, the group never knows they are the remnants of despair. Thus, it would have led to junko winning, as too many students died for the emergency override protocol to activate.) But this is if nagito was unlucky enough for his plan to succeed so onwards! He shouldn't have acted so suspicious before his death. His last human interaction with the remaining survivors in chapter 5 ends with him saying "it's OK the killing game will be over soon and it will all work out in the end." This kinda ruined his whole plan as the fact the group believed that nagitos motive didn't make sense to kill himself without a really good reason is how they found out that nagito tried to kill everyone besides the traitor.
In Conclusion, Nagito had the second greatest chance of any danganronpa character winning a case to achieve their motive, and the only case I put in front of that is Gundham Tenaks but that's a story for another day. Nagito could have hid all evidence he set up a murder of himself and with his status as the ultimate lucky student, chiaki would have forced the door open, started the fire, burned the monokuma doll, confused the group more with the potential of poison in the fire grenades, burned his clothing which hid his intentions, bled under the duct tape so it didn't rule out that someone tortured him for answers, removed blood from the metal girder, made it hard to see on the monokuma doll, and it look normal at the end of the gungnir spear. Nagito could've hidden they were the remnants of despair, chiaki can't prove she's the traitor, and nagito would have had the greatest murder plan (one which is significantly better than kokichis in every way)
Thanks for the long read! Have a good day.
Aside from the first one, these are all nice alterations to the case that would have made it more difficult.
But regarding the 1st alteration, he couldn't have put poison on all the bottles since there wouldn't be enough. Idk if u remember but the poison bottle was quite small. It wouldn't have the right amount to fill 6 emergency bottles.
And even if it did, the traitor (nanami) needed to be the blackened in order for his entire plan to work. If they voted wrong during the trial,
"the evil remnants of despair" would all die except for the traitor.
Man wrote a whole book 💀💀💀💀
@Eagleye I realized halfway through the essay I essentially wrote that it didn't work. However, my main idea was that it technically was a possibility for nagito to do, which would lead to interesting results despite it not conforming to his plan.
As for the altercations, I felt like the core idea for this trial was great, but the first half of the trial of figuring out nagito staged this "suicide" had too much evidence in certain areas, like the whole use of domino's was a little to easy to see, I feel like the cardboard cutouts should've burned more. Maybe I'm crazy but the case feels like it got nerfed.
In conclusion, let me write for the 54th danganronpa killing game or let me participate. I will 100% win.
There's one glaring problem with your reiteration that would make choosing the murderer much easier. First of all, the beauty of the fire grenade is that no one knew which one was the poison, making it unsolvable. But in your comment, you mentioned the one kicking down the door being responsible for the death, which makes it obvious who the culprit was, making the case very much solvable. It's admirable that you are trying to make something already unsolvable even more unsolvable, If you try to put it into practice, you will see the problems with it, and with that, you can solve those problems easily. Good job.
@AzazelsAutumm Very fair point. However, I'd like to note that they still don't know what killed nagito. If the fire grenade was also included, they still can't be certain if the door or the fire grenade killed him. Nagito could have made the evidence that he put poison in the fire grenades more readily available, and they couldn't be certain if the poison or the gungnir spear killed him. The spear would fall eventually, and due to the fire grenades poison being mentioned to cause death nearly instantly, all nagito would have to do would be slow the rate of the fire a little bit.
This is all assuming they figured out he still could have committed the murder, and all the evidence he had a hand free was effaced. I don't think there's any evidence for them to determine that nagito set up the killing mechanism other than he had one of his ropes burned. Also, since my original post, I came to the thought that nagito could have tortured himself more as he didn't have to hold the gungnir spear. Therefore, the entirety of his body would've been equally tortured so they would have even less evidence
My headcanon is that Miu's "golden brain" actually IS brilliant but it gets so exhausted with her ultimate talent that she's just that dumb with everything else.
I don't think Hiyoko could have ran away. Her clothes were barley on her body so that hindered her from running and even if she just dropped her Kimono, she's short and obviously couldn't outrun Mikan in any event. I think she did try to get away, but Mikan was simply too fast and got her.
There was 2 or 3 ways she probably could have avoided her death
1. Just fucking deal with the kimono till morning, and when it IS morning, ask someone to tie it up for her
2. Ask Sonia to just tie it up for her instead of waiting till morning since she was already there
3. Just stop being stubborn and tie it up in the front instead of the back and then just fix it when the disease passes or it hits morning and you can safely leave your room to the music venue where the mirror was(Because nobody would commit a murder in broad daylight..excluding Peko.)
Because honestly, why in the hell would you go outside of the safety of your own room/dorm/whatever it is while theres a killing game, you cant defend yourself, and theres a contagious disease going around??
@@miko9913
Well, I'm guessing Hiyoko wanted to do it herself the right way, because Mahiru taught her how to do it. She probably didn't want to disrespect her by still not knowing how to tie her Kimono. Sure, she could have waited but she didn't expect to actually run into a murder as the chances are extremely slim.
She also could've taken the mirror to her room when Sonia told her about it instead waiting till the middle of the night to use it. That's always the first thing I think of when it comes to her avoiding being killed.
@@infoshark8915 Sonia must have talked to Hiyoko in the middle of the night, there's no way she waited until it was night to use the mirror. Except she did to not be seen by anyone.
@@LmnJuc-on5tf But wasn't it in the middle of the night? Thats the most common times that murders occur. She should have at least suspected that it's dangerous to go out alone or outside in general due to the motive.
I'm not sure if Ryoma would've even been able to push himself up. Due to his height, or lack thereof, it's unlikely his feet would've been able to reach the ground, so all he'd be able to use to push himself up is the sink itself. And due to being handcuffed, with his arms already in the sink, it simply wouldn't be feasible.
He a kill an entire mob with a tennis racket and a shot put ball
@@marx-kk1rh And Kirumi is a super maid, that was requested to be bodyguard multiple times. Strenght wise, I'd say they're pretty equal.
@@marx-kk1rh I'm not denying how strong he is, because ofc he's ridiculously strong to be able to do that. But if you're being pinned in place, handcuffed, rapidly losing air, and not able to even reach the ground for any kind of purchase, not even all the strength in the world can save you.
this has two meanings...
he gave his life to kirumi bcuz he had no reason to live
so basically:
Sayaka: just.. run..
Chihiro: STEP AWAY!?
taka: dodge it??? or just.. idk?
sakura: uh..
impoostoor: just retreat..
maheeroo: if she talked with heeyookoo bout the letter.
hiyoko: nigerundayooo! (means Run Away!)
ibuki: eh
nekomaru: exposed shutdown button????
nageetoo: ehh idk
ranteero: look around and listen???
reeyohma: push up!
angee: just.. run.
tenko: dont participate.
miu: same thing, just look around. or just murder kokichi right away.
kokeechee: drink the antidote.. just do it.
Sayaka wasn’t thinking that straight. I get the idea behind her plan. But 11037 was still a tall, masculine male. She should’ve chose a female or until his death revealed the opposite gender, chihiro. Chihiro had a better chance just fighting back…or attempting to gun straight for the door, given mondo wasn’t in his way. Mondo lifted that dumbbell pretty easily so nothing would stop him from just chasing chihiro around and trying again. I also feel Ali could’ve prevented Sakura’s unalive by just refusing to get anything for her. Mahiru…..should’ve indeed just talked to hiyoko. And if she noticed the guy who wanted revenge for his sister, and/or his right hand girl, ran for the fucking hills.
0:38 It’s stated by Mondo that he blacked out then returned to his senses after Chihiro was dead, I’m not sure how long he was blacked out but I assume after the swing he would probably calm down
In twogamis case
He had multiple chances of preventing his own murder
It only comes down to bad writing in my opinion
- He could have checked more rooms then the 2 he checked with hajime. There he would have seen the 3 irons
- He should have stopped the party as soon as items from the kitchen werent there and question Teruteru and Nagito. Because lets be serious? Teruteru somehow lost in the kitchen he spend the most time in? That was a red flag that either someone snuck in or teruteru is hiding something.
- He shouldnt have crawled under the table, he simply could have stand near edge of the table, reached over the knife, let it fall and dragged it out from the table. The only reason he got killed because he went under the table for no reason when he could have used a different and better method.
- Finally if he didnt get the knife, he should have restrained Nagito. With him keeping nagito at hold...him and Nagito were safe. Remember the only reason Twgami got kijled was because he was in right position and near the green light. In this scenario simce Twogami is occupied with restraining Nagito. It means that Teruteru whole plan is a bust.
Crazy someone with a Naruto pfp is talking about bad writing but what you said here is pretty fax
It could also be Twogami is a dumbass, which is realistically possible thanks to the damn party he threw
@@fate8718 Thank you for proving my point that the writers did make characters dumb for the sake of the plot.
@@sliceninja4546 The whole of V3 is solved by Suichi not being a dumbass
It's common behavior lol
@@fate8718 nah only at chapter 6. The writers had to pull 5 chapters of bs till the actual detective finally figures out the crime.
Another easy way Miu could have prevented her death just Programm an emergency log out function into your avatar that automatically logs you out whenever someone tries to kill you
or maybe do a memory wipe for everyone so no one remembers anything that happened in the other world except her or something
@@yesyesyes666based off what happened in the game, all she would’ve had to do was say to put the cords in backwards, but put her’s in correctly. Then she’d only have ti deal with Gonta because he had his backwards when she had them put them in normally, he’d likely get it right when told to put them backwards
@@reduxreality9476 yeah or maybe she can just say put the blue one first and red second instead of calling it by right hand and left hand in case she didn't know who was right handed or left handed
For Hiyoko’s case, literally don’t listen to Sonia and find an actual mirror instead of going to the music venue 💀
If she told Sonia to go get it then her life would've been saved but we all know Sonia would rather master***** in front of the cameras then actually do anything.
@@LMAO-hk1zzOkay, where did you get that information about Sonia???
@@scruber64_ from the game itself
@@sliceninja4546 Was it in the last case in Danganronpa 2? I thought she was embarrassed for being caught having a bad stomach, as per the mentioning of her frequent toilet visits. Or was it something else?
So, almost all the victims could have survived by either paying more attention to their surronding and/or running away.
Except hiyoko, she wouldn't be able to run too far with her kimono being a mess
True but, since case 3 breaks fucking logic.
Im still confused that mikan was able to even catch hiyoko considering she stumbles and trips 9/10 times we see her.
@@sliceninja4546maybe she was just more focused after catching the disease?
Mahiru survives if she had room temperature IQ or more. The moment she stepped into the beach house and sees the guy she knows is royally pissed off at her instead of the person she was supposed to meet, she could've turned back. But even then, she could've tried to defuse the situation instead of calling out angry baby gangster. She has to be one of the dumbest character in the series
EDIT: ok maybe Rentarou trying to fight 1-1 against the mastermind without weapons is even dumber.
Honestly in rantaros case he should have been more aware of his surroundings or have the foresight that him having the secret message at all was a red flag that the MM might be already knew of f(I mean lets think about it, if you were kidnapped and given the e handbooks yourself by Monokuma and you know is controlled by crazy person. Wouldn't it be better to be more cautious?).
OK but like Common Mahiru W for yelling at a literal Yakuza and complaining he has no morals. #girlboss
@@LMAO-hk1zz ah yes as if screaming at a crazy person about morals would have done anything. What a W 😓...
@@LMAO-hk1zz lmfaooo
Two ways to survive as chihiro. One, dodge. Two, try to push him away before he even grabs the weight. 1 is safe but 2 could have caused Chihiro to be the blackened
1:40 Just reach underneath to get it, you don’t need to duck underneath
Well, Taka is too nice to be suspicious of the others/Hifumi.
Hiyoko was half-wearing her kimono, so she would trip over it and got caught anyway (she is kinda clumsy/would be in panik).
Short Summary:
Sayaka: Stop Being Deaf And Run Away
Chihiro: *Dodge or Die*
Taka: If Something Seems Sus, Look Around Dumb Idiot
Sakura: _Don't Kill Yourself_
Ultimate Imposter: 1. Confiscate The Thing He Didn't Confiscate 2. Check The Room More Thoroughly 3. Escape After Securing The Knife 4. If You Didn't Do Any Of These, You're Dead
Mahiru: Talk Face To Face With Hiyoko
Hiyoko: Run The F#ck Away
Ibuki: *Just Pretend She Didn't Die*
NekoMaru: If You Want To Fight Someone, Don't Expose Your Shut Down Button
Nagito: You Kinda Killed Yourself... (Also Kub Scouts Is Going To Kill You For Dying)
Rantaro: Something Is Sus, So Look Around
Ryoma: Make Kirumi Fall Into The Water With You, Even If It's Nearly Impossible To Do That
Angie: If You Did Not Trust Korekiyo, You Would Honestly Have Another 50% Chance Of Surviving, Or Just Walk Away
Tenko: Don't Join Seance, Just Dont
Miu: Log Everyone Off Except Kokichi, Look Around Before Killing Kokichi, Just Punch Kokichi In The Face (Trust Me He's Weak), Don't Kill Kokichi In The First Place, Stop Being A Cum Dumpster
Kokichi: Drink De Antidote, Nobody Wanted You To Die. (Why Did You Have To Die For God's Sake)
-20 Minutes Of My Life For THIS-
tbh Rantaro died cause all the weed he smokes gives him shit reaction time. The shotput ball dropped right beside him and bro still took forever to react.
Honestly im.more perplexed how he didn't get that gut feeling that someone was watching him.
I'm not sure what's called but you know how your body can somehow sense you are being watched.
What Ryoma should of done really was not be alone, cause Kirumi made him her target cause he didn't feel like living so after he looked at his video I'd have him be with someone like a Kaito or Shuichi basically someone that is trustworthy but is also weaker than himself in case that trusted person ends up trying to kill him, or another way for him not to die would be to not watch the video cause that caused him to be targeted by Kirumi these would be two ideas for him to not die, but since he ends up doing what he ends up doing the best option would be to grab something around him and using it to protect himself from Kirumi which in the place he's in the best thing to use would be a tennis ball
4:46 actually I always wondered
Couldn’t they just split the antidote?
Guess it wouldn't take effect if not enough is taken
Mouth to mouth 😳
@@venor2612pause on that bro
kokichi wanted to die so there is no point also there may not have been enough to actually cure it if they took a lower dose each
@@venor2612 NO
The imposter protected Nagito. He was dying eather way
One thing I thought of for 3-4, why didn’t Miu just kill Kokichi outside of the game while everyone else was inside of it? Nobody was there to witness it and she had the ability to say “I couldn’t leave because the bridge was out” so she’d probably be trusted to “look into” the technical part of it, then blame Kaito because he “left” due to her booting him.
Ryoma using his body weight to get away may not have worked because of how short he is.
Bro is like 3’5 so i’m not sure about that
"Sakuras case is a bit unique cause she fucking killed hersel-"
Top 10 quotes of 2023
If hiyoko asked Sonia to go with her to the stage mikan would of been caught red handed and since you can’t kill more then 2 people mikan would be doomed.
After Leon left to get the kit Sayaka could've locked the dorm room itself tbh
Always be aware of your surroundings
If hiyoko learned properly how to tie her kimono she would have survived. Chiaki would have survived if they didnt try to put the fire off.
3:23 ryoma weighs about... 10 kilos.
DAMN
His official weight is 40 kg, or 88 lbs.
Edit: Unless you meant his weight as a skeleton.
Rantaro was in shock, and kirumi is stronger than him. There fore both of those wouldn’t be possible
How they could have survived in my opinion
Sayaka: killed Makoto instead
Chihiro: trusted Taka with his secret
Taka: hide just in case
Sakura: Hina saying no to the protein and taking her to the infirmary
Imposter: let Nagito die
Mahiru: Ignore the letter
Ibuki: Sorry bae, couldn't save you 😥
Hiyoko: Not listen to Sonia's advice
Nekomaru: Ask Fuyuhiko why he wasn't going to Monokuma Tai-chi
Nagito: NOT TRY TO EXPOSE CHIAKI!
Rantaro: Bring a group to the library
Ryoma: Tell him that people around him would still be miss him
Angie: Ask someone for a candle
Tenko: let Himiko die
Miu: Not try to kill Kokichi, plug in the cords for Gonta
Kokichi: I dunno what to tell you bro
Nobody had to die in the seance. All they had to do was be creeped the F out by the setup and stop the seance entirely. If Korekiyo objects, he has at maximum 4 people and at minimum an ultimate aikido master to tango with. Even if he does have a weapon, he’s not going to come out on top in an argument if anybody in the room objects to the seance
Angie shouldn’t throw a sayaka.
Of all the characters, Ibuki was the most screwed, was weak from the illness, delirious, and overly gullible due to the same illness.
She was never going to survive.
Unless there was some way to avoid getting the despair disease
Ain't no way you used fanart of Sayaka betraying-betraying Makoto for the thumbnail 😭
Honestly I think Nagito could have survived if he did these things.
1. If he didn’t put the poison in the fire extinguisher which Chiaki threw
2. If he didn’t torture himself (It was freaking useless)
3. He could have just told who the imposter was rather than doing an useless plan
4. He could have proved that others were cheating on him by making them the blackened. ( By summoning poison on all extinguishers)
I think if he did these things correctly he could have made Chiaki live and let the others die.
😂😂😂😂😂
If Sayaka hadn't made Makoto bring the golden sword replica to his room, then Leon wouldn't have had a means of defending himself
The Miu one: She would still be seen by Gonta unless she did a double murder and killed him too
I mean, Nagito survives anyway because of his luck
0:13
Although its ture mando is a lot more physically stronger and overpowering that chihiro, he killed out of anger and would've most likely cooled down if chihiro dodged because of his sense of morality. Chihiro's body type can also help with agility, so if mando DIDNT chill, he could've ran away and alerted people.
Himiko will die if tenko survive.
True. I love them both so it’s sad 😞
Honestly they shouldn't have done the seance after angie was dead.
Like wtf, what are you idiots doing?
3rd option: Tenko says, oh hell no this Seance is sus to the max and beat up Korekiyo if he objects and insists on using a “volunteer”
Very weird for her to go trusting her life with an actual “degenerate male”, even if it’s to save a life
chapter 6 of v3: tsumugi literally stepping away
Exactlyy
Sayaka: Don’t attempt murder
Chihiro: Meet up with someone else (Kiyotaka) instead of the angriest guy there, and if you’re going to be with Mondo, do it at daytime and maybe watch your mouth. If Mondo clearly looks uncomfortable, maybe stop talking
Kiyotaka: Have you learned nothing from the first two cases? Don’t follow any notes
Hifumi: Don’t listen to someone called the QUEEN OF LIARS
Sakura: Unite everyone TOGETHER and explain yourself, then pledge allegiance towards ending the killing game
Impostor: Don’t be a freaking hero
Mahiru: Maybe don’t insult the angriest guy around
Ibuki: Stay quarantined. Honestly, not much she could do
Hiyoko: Have Sonia tie your kimono or Run away as fast as possible from Mikan
Nekomaru: Kill Gundham more quickly (or just don’t agree to the duel)
Nagito: Don’t succumb to despair, you hypocrite
Rantaro: Don’t investigate alone
Ryoma: Don’t watch your video and don’t give up on life
Angie: Follow your own rules and don’t be out at night, you hypocrite
Tenko: Don’t listen to the one guy who actually is a degenerate male and don’t do the seance
Miu: Don’t try to kill Kokichi
Kokichi: Come up with a different plan to end the killing game
Is this a remake but in different segments
How blackeneds survive
How victims survive
Lol hiffumi has no choice but to die from being a simp.
honestly just don’t leave ur room
4:41 Wait just a minute...Did Kokichi know about Kaito's disease?
2:23 probably if the fire grenade never broke?? then again theres a spear…..so
0:52 i meanmm hifumi is big and reaction time we don't know that
It was really hard to understand what he was saying, I had to turn on the captions
So for the simpler ones
Just never skip leg day
4:08 caught me off guard lol that was funny
He would’ve walked away in the hallw
Know another way Miu could have survived? Kill Shuichi. Think about it.
1. She going to kill so she can escape.
2. She framed Kaito for murder (or trying to).
3. Even if she succeeded in killing someone, Shuichi is the most dangerous person there.
You gotta stop bullying my boy Chihiro ( joke )
Again.. Murderers are so easy to survive.
Sakura could not survive cause if she tried to kill everyone else nobody would be able to stop her.
Someone goes to check up that gay, obviously.
Or sayaka could have chosen someone weaker
Classic NPC W
kokichi should've survived tbh
Honestly I’m glad he didn’t. He was low key annoying
True. Dude was the most useful and smartest character of V3.
@@demonknight5617 um… wut bout shuichi? Or tsumugi?! OR GONTA?! they are way smarter
@@BananaAreKool They are smart, but Kokichi has proven he’s smarter than them(except for Tsumugi) throughout the game. He knew they were in a show early on in the game, and he already figured all murder cases before everyone else in each chapter. He’s pretty much a mixture of Komaeda and Kyoko. Like Kyoko, he steered the conversation for Shuichi to figure out the murderer, but he’s similar to Komaeda about how he acts in mannerism.
I hate kaito sm
Ratio 😡
Oof
ngl tenko deserved that
hi ( I’m not first )