Do external recorders improve your videos?
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- Опубліковано 26 кві 2018
- We tested if we could get any better video quality using an external recorder like the Atomos Shogun Inferno. Here is the camera gear we used in this video: bhpho.to/2JIfqUY 🎥
Atomos Inferno is both a monitor and a video recorder. It is actually capable of recording the video you output from your camera, and make it look even better then what the camera can record internally. How is that possible? Well, most cameras need to compress the video a lot to be able to record on small SD cards and play it back on the camera. The Atomos recorder uses SSD drives, which are faster and actually cheaper. This let’s the recorder capture video with less compressed codecs like Apple Prores. This codec also makes the editing smoother as it is more optimized for editing softwares. And even though GH4 only records 8 bit, it can output 10 bit to the external recorder in both 4k 25fps and FULL HD 60fps, and thereby give you more color information and better video quality. GH5 and GH5s can also output 10 bit video.
The Shogun Inferno is more then just an external recorder. It has a really bright monitor with many features like waveforms, vectorscopes and other monitoring tools.
You can also add markers to your shots, and import that into your editing software. You can add luts to see how the shots would like graded, and you can even see your shot in HDR. You can record and adjust the sound directly into the shogun, with the XLR adapter you get with it.
Another exciting thing, is the option to record Apple Prores RAW. I haven’t tested it myself yet, but it looks like something that is going to improve the video quality a lot. So stay tuned on our social media and subscribe:
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Hello guys. I need your help!!! Tell me please, can i record video from a Panasonic gh5s to SanDisk portable pro 1 or 2 Tb external disk? I can't find information about this(...
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cuckoomusic beard lookin good even in 8bit 😂
Thanks for taking the time to join the shooting :D You were a perfect 10-bit model.
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Here is the camera gear we used in this video: bhpho.to/2JIfqUY 🎥
Andy. Your videos are truly inspiring. You also investigate things not so popular and then make it very interesting. I am now considering external recording.
Nice production and I liked your ending comments and VJUS clips too. I watched on a 55 inch HD TV. Sorry to miss your Patreon Q & A this morning, I viewed it later.
I really really love your videos!
Seriously, I have been watching them for such a long time and it is so amazing what you do :)
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Great comment 👍
Everything I've used for my gh4 rig, I've gotten by watching your channel. You've got a fan in Seattle!
Cuckoo lead me to this video, and now i'm a fan! I always watch camera reviews and videos, but i have to say, none were this informative AND soothing at the same time, thank you and subscribed!
Thanks Mario :)
I have always been a fan of you and your informative (and entertaining) videos! Great work!
Haha in the end, you did get your fans, so wholesome! Haha. Man I love you guys, I always come back watching older videos, wishing I could also start a film company with my friends!
Terrific. Thorough, very informative and easy to watch. Not an easy combination.
This was awesome video!
Enjoyed, relaxed and had a good time!
Thanks a lot!
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PERKELE! 😝
Congratulations! It is so awesome that you reached 250k subscribers!!!
Andy, great comprehensive review. Wishing you great success.
Nice to see you back again
amazing comparisons, thanks buddy! greetings from Chile
Fantastic video. One thing about long GOP is that it sacrifices and macroblocks the shadows first and then moves its way up the brightness scale the more stressed it gets. A great test would be lifting shadows in a very low light scene. Here is where ProRes will beat H.264 more soundly. Scenes in daylight will not be as noticeable as color grading night shots with deep shadows. GREAT VIDEO!
I love your video style. Really nice job.
Very good video. Thanks. As with other test videos I've seen, it looks like 10bit codecs don't provide any distinct advantages except for green screen work or grades involving extreme/crazy colour shifts and FX. Nevertheless, the Atomos looks like a great monitor/recorder combo, but the GH5/GH5s internal codecs are extremely efficient in themselves, both file size wise and image quality wise, even at 8bit. I almost wish they weren't - it would give me an excuse to buy one of Atomos' nice recorders. : ) Thanks again.
Thankyou for this test. It is helping me make a decision on my new camera setup..
i just like the way andy explain in his tutorial so very nice, thanks for this brother
Thank you very much for your great videos! =)
I love how you provide value through your videos! You're such a great inspiration for my channel. Keep it up :)
Would love to see a follow up video with Prores RAW flavours thrown in the mix
Watched the video while drinking a cup of brazilian coffee on my breakfast, as reccomended. ;)
Finally I see a video test that answers my questions about using an external recorder on panny cameras. I had the idea to get the GH4 and, after a while, with more money, get an external recorder so I can get the 10bit Prores from the camera. But I see that, for my type of work, that is more run and gun, it would not make any huge diffrerence.
I love your channel dude, you make everything so simple and easy to watch. thanks a lot! Cheers from BR ;)
Great video, nice work.
Do you know what the 4k, DCI, HRF and RAW options their including there bit depth and MB/s ?…when recording onto the Shogun from the EVA. We are comparing FS5 to the EVA at present but I can’t find all the info. I thought you may know where to find this information in one place. Thanks :)
The GH5s is absolutely amazing for the 4/3 sensor ! Thanks, for a great comparison video !!
3 Months ago on the EVA1 vs GH5 Video - I asked about making this precise video. Thank you for doing so. And my mention. (joke I never got one.... ah well....). Here's another idea. Rode lapel microphone with the invisiLav mounting system, stuck to your skin - recording the audio on a smartphone app. V's more expensive wireless systems. I use both. I know which I prefer... I think many of your followers will thank you for it. ;-) Keep up the good work.
Incredible great video! No glorifying "review" but a VERY thorough and neutral comparison. Great work!
lit video...no wonder you take your time to create such good content for us...just keep it going...we are with u in your journey..
It's nice to have a recorder but as you said the benefit is to minor for the added bulkyness in handheld situations.
Strange I find the channel now, Love it! I should geek around with my a6500 too in Gruneløkka haha
Thanks Andy your videos always help.
huge fan of you... keep waiting for the next video... thanks
good job man! thx 4 testing. regards from China.
Haha! The first sequence suddenly makes me relax! At first, I was so stressing because I can't decide which one to buy.
Can confirm, a fresh cup of coffee and a 4k monitor is a great way to process this information. The blocking pattern that's present on the internal footage is also a result of the VQ algorithm for that codec. The best way I like to describe whats happening is by using the water and hose analogy. The actual camera sensor is like a fire hose with how much data it's able to capture and output, but the camera's internal processor, bus lane, buffer, and SD card can only handle a garden hose. So the internal processor uses a codec to compress the data from a fire hose into a garden hose.
Excellent video, and I really appreciate the side by side comparisons. Now I just need to fix my Patreon account so I can get access to the "uncompressed" version!
Perfect Kyle. Glad to see you here. Thanks for the comment ☕
I think you presented this information well. I use Atomos recorders primarily because of the edit friendly codec and the monitor tool set. I shoot live theatre, concerts and dance recitals with multiple cameras. If I had to create proxies or transcode my footage it would take a very long time. With a high quality monitor I can be sure that my focus and exposure are perfect.
I agree 👍 right tool for the job! For weddings and similar type work I think the Atoms would be overkill
Amazing information - Thank you
Nice video. Waiting for some footages with EVA1 and Apple ProRes Raw.
Thank you for the helpful videos!
This was ridiculously well explained. Liked, suscribed, etcetera, etcetera.
Love this video keep going on!
Andyax, is shooting magic lantern raw on a canon 5d still relevant compared to a new camera such as a GH5. Or would you say magic lantern is outdated now?
Thank you for your great work!
Yes, it's true! It does improve the video quality because it bypasses the internal compression of your camera when it records to cards. I have done a test with an Panasonic AF100 and it looks way better. And your footage is in industry standard format right off the back. The only downside is file size are humugous so if you are transferring to someone, be prepared to wait while it goes
very great video, but most important question can be, what's is the difference between sony or any v90 sd card for mov. recording and external recorder - Prores? Probably you will say external recorder has many option and even I shot video in mov. files internally later fcpx or software must to change mov. to apple Prores something? it won't be same quality accourding to external recording, because external recording can shot directly Prores mode and fcpx won't need to convert or do something with algorithm? so ex. recording beats ssd cards even I shot mov internally 10 bit 442 /400mbs.? Am I missing something?
Can you record 4k 60p via sdi on the Inferno or just via hdmi? Thx a lot
OMG, now I know why there're such that things on post! Thanks you so much.
Hi Andy, would you pick the Ninja Inferno or Ninja V for a GH5? Cant’t decide which to get! Or should I just save and get the Shogun Inferno? Hope to hear your recommendations and inputs. Much thanks! ;)
The finding fellowship of the panasonic scene was really ackward LOL keep up the goodwork. By the way how can you find the statistic for camera user by brand location?
6:10 i thought that was christopher nolan walking in
Yes the option to record ProRes RAW and bypassing those camera internal h.254 codecs entirely seems great and has me considering the EVA 1 even if its out of my financial range
Would this work with the cannon t5i camara?
Is there more use of these things for things like a Sony A7 mark I. Which only shoots AVHD codec internally
Bro, PLEASE tell me the song name in the 240fps pigeon b-roll. Its amazing! And so is this review, i'm considering buying it and this really, really helps.
This was the best explanation for what 10-bit really means.
andyax is there a deterrent between all-i & longGB in gh5S ?
Excellent, great info!
Wow, you are so smart about videomaking. I should learn all of this, thanks a lot for information, greate video and good information for me.
"This is a video that should be enjoyed with a cup of coffee."
*Literally paused the video and made myself a cup of coffee
I couldent be the only one
You are the perfect viewer.
Ditto!
I decided to then cast this video to my tv and have a cup of coffee instead of watching on my phone
Opened the video at work, saw "must be enjoyed with coffee", postponed to watch at home and liked immediately ! Yeeeah!!
Perfect ☕☕ :)
I miss you, hopefully everything is going good and you will be back strong after summer holiday!
Does the external recorder also improves bitrate, like for example in canon 90d?
Nice work. Interesting and fun video. 8 bit Video is pretty robust!
Hi can you please make a video about the gimbal nebula 4200 ??
wich hdmi cable should i buy to use 4k 60 proreshq on a gh5s ?
This should have been watched at a coffee :) I watched it turning photos to a time lapse :)
Muchas gracias :)
I'm your new fan from the Philippines!
Nice work!
How do I know if my Sony a6500 is good for external recording?
Hi🙏 Does Lumix GH4 records prores raw via Atomos Shogun 7?
is it possible to know video has color banding because mostly we can't detect minor bandings......is there anyway to know how to detect color banding on video....and how to remove banding....
Can you shoot raw with the Eva hdmi?
Also please do a test between Prores 422, HQ and LT
7:30 Can anybody tell me the name of the song?
10:13 the gh5s prores looks to have a more magenta than the all intra
Var dere utenfor Nordisk film shortcut as?
Is there a way to record 10 bit by connecting the camera to a computer?
Is prores also for Windows possible, or only for mac?
It's really good review. and good reference to video work.
So, can i connect to my a6500 and record 10bit prores raw ?
Hi bro...i want to know the key steps in shooting for web series originals......can u help me....
Good source you used
Great video!
wow.. this is amazing.. so it means in terms of quality 4K 25p are better than 4K 50p internally?
Great video!
i just wish i was there to meet u..as your fan..and give a hug for the love i have for u
Come to Houston I’ll be one of your fans that come out and support lol.
How did you Grade that shot in 3:10
wOW, EXCELLENT VIDEO AND INFORMATION!!
Konge 😀 gir deg en sub så kanskje jeg lærer litt mer om video. Er helt fersk på dette med video egentlig, skyter med Olympus og har ett par videoprosjekter jeg håper å kunne realisere en dag.
tak! its very technical review.
Ive been trying to figure out what song that is for a year.
Do you prefer Canon over Sony?
nice and thanks alot sir for this vdo ,
Nice video very interesting good job! 😍😍😍