Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight Review | Should You Play It Today?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Command & Conquer 4: Tiberian Twilight is not a game that's held is very high regard by most people I talk too. Is it as bad as people say? Let's find out for ourselves.
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Okay. You got me. Had to search for that clip of the woman taking a watermelon to the face. I was not disappointed.
I've never met anyone who wasn't amused by it :P
@@Zade_95 wow still reading comments after a year of this video being posted that's commitment
I'm always here... Always watching....
diehard league of legends player here. calling this a moba just insults me.
@@Zade_95 What do you think about tiberium crisis? this should be what cnc 4 should have
Zade: should you play command amd conquer 4 in 2-
CnC fans: No
Command and conquer Tiananmen twilight 4 (it didnt happen)
IMO zero hour is infinitly times better then this crap, its graphics may not be the best, but the story is fairly believable and relevant, and the base building is well made
When I found out this was the new CnC I was so upset
CnC4: Not Even Once.
Cnc fans : no
Me as an cnc player : I did love that game but leaved it cuz I didnt understand tactics in time
Short answer: No.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
i see what you did there, zero punctuation!
Smeeeeeeee Heeeeeeee
@@steveozone4910 red dwarf ;)
@@GrandTheftBalow Glad there's a few fans around
I did yahtzee that coming.
I shall never forget the name...Westwood.
*try not to cry*
*cry a lot*
*cries alot*
What about Flint Eastwood?
:((
Follow Petroglyph - it’s what Westwood’s former employees started
Critics reviews: Not great, not terrible...
C&C fans: The core is open....
It helps if we pretend the Tiberian series ended with Kane's Wrath. REALLY helps...
On a cliffnahger... Yeah, oh well.
It really, really does
It ended with Firestorm. Even Westwood developers said C&C3 was disappointing (like how they have very short development time) and the story was different from how they planned when they were making Tiberian Dawn and Tiberain Sun.
@@Al-mk6ob C&C 3 was still a very good game, despite being different from the original plan. Things don't always turn out as we intend them to...
I like to think left off on, I’m still hopeful
"Kane has allied with gdi"
What?
Meanwhile tib wars 3 kane:
"Siding with gdi is blasphemy!!"
For 30 years too...
Maybe he got really tired
Sometimes you go against your own judgement the very next moment after stating it because you just snapped from frustrations and tiresome.
I won't lie, Kane allying with GDI could actually make for a good plot point if it were better executed.
c&c 4? tiberian twilight? never heard of it...
to my knowlage, there has been no c&c 4
i dont know what ur talking about
Doesn't look like anything to me.
Diden't the series end whit Kanes wrath
I know it was the planned title of the third game of the Tiberium saga Westwood planed, too bad no one ever made it
Huh they made a sequel? Nonsense! I looked it up and there is no evidence of it. What is this C&C4 you speak about?
idiot
I enjoyed the units, how that theyre legacy units from C&C1, 2, and 3. The C&C2 units that got dropped from C&C3 are back like the GDI Titan, Hover MLRS(Sandstorm), and walking Mammoth MK2(Mastodon).. The sheer variety is impressive. The downsides being that you have to unlock them by raising your profile rank by grinding, have a strict limit on your "army" size, and can only access 1/3rd of them because of the division in Crawler types.
Still its a "strategy" game that lacks anything that makes a strategy. No building bases. No collecting resources.
If you could mod those units into Command and Conquer 3, it would be amazing.
This is neat, good work man
Thanks mate! :)
GAMES FOR YOU TO LOOK INTO:
Maelstrom,
Evil Genius
Giants: Citizen Kabuto
ET: Quake Wars
Dragonshard
Paraworld
World In Conflict
Black and White II
"Oh, let's try this... COMMAND AND CONQUER FO-"
"NOBODY ESCAPES THE BLACK HAND!"
"OH FU-"
Wanna switch your strategy? Give up a life to do so.
WORST GAME MECHANIC EVER!
Go play C&C 3 again or go play Halo Wars 2.
Or, heck, give Universe at War: Earth Assault a shot, that game deserved better :'(
UaW:EA I wish it was still availible to buy outside of physical copies, I loved playing as the Hierarchy and Masari :(
Is halo wars 2 any good? the first was kind of meh but fun because its halo.
@@michaelbalfour3170 if you thought of meh with the first one, dont even bother, not because its bad, its because you didnt like the first then you would not like the second, its better in every part but, dont play it
@@HawaiianForgeStudios I was hoping for A CnC/UaW crossover game my entire adulthood.
I actually believe Kane being some sort of immortal super being isn't new. He's been strongly implied to be the biblical Cain, and of course he hasn't aged a day since Tiberian Dawn despite the four games spanning something like 100 years.
That's about all they got right with his character though, oh boy.
C&C4 is the game that most deserves a remaster - basically on everything. Maybe they can keep the unit names and a few cool concepts such as the crawler. And remake everything else.
The point behind Kane doing all he can to get that Perfect Mutant to safety is an allegory to his actor, Joseph Kucan, trying to save the Command and Conquer legacy and failing (the officer who shoots his only chance of victory is EA)
The worst part about this game is that they DARED to use the name Tiberian Twilight for something so utterly shitastic. Tiberian Twilight was meant to be the epic final chapter of the Tiberian Saga.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEY FUCKING DO!!!!!
>:(
well, this one managed to make an empty bucket overflow, Rivals straight up broke the bucket.
The story reminded me of the starfox game for the ds. It was literally all the worse outcomes ever and felt so out of place.
I always felt like the game was trying to be the next world in conflict but it was far to awkward being stuck to a mobile factory. I also missed playing the scrin, I LOVED THEM!
I think this game is very good though...
Oh shit! This is not April fool's day.
only 9 months to go!
I was one of the Closed Beta testers, got the invite from the Red Alert 3 Premier Edition. I still remember being so confused by the gameplay, that i thougth it was actually a spin off game and the title was just a placeholder or something. When i realise it was the actual game, i was both angry and sad at the same time.
Still remember the feedback text they asked me to make about my "experience" with the game. I just went full "is this an out of season april fools joke" blizzard guy on that text, with broken english just the spice things up.
I still bought it just to see if they actually changed something from the feedback. Not even a month had passed since the release and it had already dropped from 60€ to 10€.
Ever since this game was announced, let alone released, I noticed a pattern in EA's business with C&C: if it has a chance to be a good game, they cancel it, if it has nothing, but a spit on a face for fans of C&C and the genre of RTS in general, they happily release it. And I am skeptical about c&c remastered because of this...
Bryan Vahey is one of the testers for the new remastered series. He's got a channel where he plays lots of RA2 (through CNCnet) and he's really good at it. I don't think he'd continue to be a tester if it was a pile of hot garbage. At least, I'm hoping such is the case.
Me too. Cautiously optimistic, for sure
Yo.. I know it's 2023 and almost 2024. But you need to see the latest version of "Tiberium Crisis 2" and experience the gameplay of "Tiberium Crisis".
It is a mod by a Chinese team of modders that actually cared about the CnC franchise and Oh boy, they did it right.
Such a shame they discontinued this series. Greatest RTS of all time. CC Generals 2 looked promising though..
You know I understand the hate behind this game but realistically this game is actually what got me to play command and conquer 3 as a younger kid. My mum being cheap and needing to entertain me in a time where I didn't have access to the internet she managed to download it free and without the requirement of the internet and I actually quite enjoyed the game as my first introduction. That being said as soon as I could I switched over to C&C 3 and haven't really looked back but I will always somewhat look back and be fond of the game for entertaining me for nearly 2 months when I was visiting family where the internet was censored heavily to say the least and cost too much.
Short answer, no.
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:P
My lasting memory of C&C4 was fighting past a god awful escort mission only to be told that I had somehow been disconnected from the server and would have to play through again, only to be told that again I'd been disconnected. Eventually got it done completed that faction and rather than playing the other side I uninstalled it.
What I got from the story was that kane was an just alien who wanted to get home, rather than some super being ascending to new plane of existence type of thing.
Given EA's track record its somnething of a miracle that they actually still have the servers for this running given how short lived other online only games like darkspore were.
Yep, that mission sucks (as do most of them)
C&C 4 was my first C&C game, I later bought the earlier games because I wanted more than 10 units and to build a base.
excellent choice
Even though this game is garbage ( completely agree ) but still need to play it because this is the last one game i never played. Born in 2004 i grew up with C&C Generals up to C&C 3 kane's wrath along with tiberium wars and RA3 then i realized that there's even old C&C games like RA2 and tiberium sun which i desperately trying to buy it. This is so much nostalgia to be talk about. Even this game is trash i need to play it just to complete all my C&C life before i die.
Well said!
Kanes wrath didn't have a GDI campaign, but a nod campaign that spanned the whole time line it was well a worthy conclusion even as a cliff hanger.
I would like to see a honest StarCraft 2 in 2019 review from you. and not taking account the lack of base building in this, would it be a good game if it was not a pre-judged game with a title of c&c? And sure, I would like to see a remake/combination of all the c&c. Would you review the upcoming Red Alert remaster(s)? If there was no pressure to give it a bad review, then what it would really be? disclaimer: fan of the earlier games.
I'm not sure if I'll get to it in 2019, but I'll definitely be looking at Starcraft 2 (and 1) sometime!
Idk why but I actually liked The End Of All Things song. It is definitely different than what we are used too. Like I understand if they wanted to take a new approach to the game but they shouldnt have changed all the good things we like about Kanes Wrath. I wish they would come out with a new C&C game with more than the 9 factions they had in Kane's Wrath.
good game overall with the units and concept but
1. make units squishier/more damage
2. supply cap increase as you capture more nodes, making the game start small but end with giant armies
idk tbh. thats really all the game needed. it was too small scale and the units are sponges.
On the upside, shipbreakers/deserts of Karak showed how to do this game mode properly.
Until you realise all the sides were almost identical (charging money for sub-mod grade factions was additionally scum tactics) and the AI was beyond pathetic.
The rebuild for the late licensing deal dragged an otherwise interesting game into movie-tie in grade final result. Makes me sad. It let down both the homeworld franchise and crushed an otherwise promising stand alone IP.
I need to play Shipbreakers / Karak sometime actually. I'll do all of Homeworld one day :P
I need to play Shipbreakers / Karak sometime actually. I'll do all of Homeworld one day :P
The OST sample at ~10:00 gives me Homeworld vibes, strangely enough.
Try OpenRA, also a mod called Shattered Paradise. That's how C&C 3 might'v looked like, if Westwood were still alive and kicking.
Interesting, I'll have a look!
How EA has fallen, and to think I was thinking the game would be good. Turns out it deviated so far from the base C&C gameplay that I don't consider this abortion a C&C game at all.
I heard from a friend that apparently this game was meant to be a spinoff game targeted towards competitive settings and places like Korean PC bangs, then EA decided to make it the next main game of the series, not sure if this was true.
Short answer: no
Long answer: also no
If I had a quarter everytime a beloved RTS series was ended by a greedy company turning a RTS into a bad MOBA like I would have two quarters, which is sad that it happened twice. Also the fact that multiplayer units are locked behind a universal progression system.
Misnomer at 11:19 being support has the powers not offense.
Correct - my bad!
Loving the channel - going through nearly every video and had a quick question. Any thoughts of doing some video on the Dune rts games?
Awesome to hear! Yep for sure, not sure when, but definitely some time!
Is this the one where Kane becomes a vampire who shines with tyberium under the sun?
Yep!
I didn't know this game existed and I used to be a huge fan of CNC back in the day.
This game could have been great if it wasn’t called command and conquer.
Exactly
Yep. Even as a spinoff like Renegade was, it would've done better
@@Zade_95
Yeah exactly! I really gave twilight a good chance. Got all units, played a bit of multiplayer. Actually had quite a bit of fun together with a buddy. Just.. don't look at it as a CnC.
Btw did you know there were plans for a Renegade 2? ^^
This is what happens when EA decides to make C&C into something like a half-assed version of "Starcraft."
:/
As someone who actually played this game on release and for over 50 hours, the only fun I had was the custom community made maps that you can spam units with no pop cap. Those almost always have no map textures but damn was it better than the regular game mode.
I scrolled way too far for a comment this sensible and beautiful
If you need to clean your brain of this mutation of a C&C game, maybe you should try some of the mods for the older games? Twisted Insurrection for TS, and Red Resurrection or Mental Omega for RA2, I think you'd get a kick out of them.
Definitely planning too for the RA2 review, which will be sometime Soon TM. Gotta put a lot of time aside for that one!
I agree with EVERYTHIG but...the sound track is in my opinion good.
As a fan when it came out, I was very disappointed. However with that said, the core was polished. It was just a different game wearing a CnC skin. Had it came out as a spin-off like red alert was to the original CnC it could have been a success.
It was polished, that's true. Ran well, no bugs!
CNC3 is peak Command and Conquer and remains my favourite RTS game of all time. I preordered Tiberius Twilight and it was the only time I have ever been angry after buying a game. To this day I haven’t finished the campaign. I put 3 hours into the game on my first sitting and uninstalled it.
I love talking about command and Conquer. But this 5:42 😂 alone got my sub. You put a smile on my face today. I needed it after tlou2 bs.
Haha glad to hear it! That clip always makes me laugh
It was so crap it’s the only C&C title I didn’t finish. To answer your titular question: NO! You shouldn’t play it! Pretend the saga ends with Kanes Wrath.
Old fan of the series here. I thought this was a great video. Well presented. 👍
Thank-you!
I'm glad that it wasn't just me that thought that this was a crappy C&C game and didn't fit the series. It bothered me more than the forced co-op in the solo campaign of RA3.
I never got past the first mission in this game. It's a slap in the face to command and conquer and deserves to be forgotten
I've had this game in my origin library as it came with some C&C combo for a good 5+ years... I have yet to launch Twilight. Still enjoying C&C3 though
C&C 4 is good how it is (even with its own problems), For example C&C 3 is Tiberian Sun reskin with less content but nobody said bad about it!
As one person said - *if game in janre has little changes - it is DLC on full price, if game in janre has lots of changes - its not what we wanted and revert changes - and more than the megacorporation greed, I hate the community's biased opinion/biased community*
I will never forgive EA for what they did to me with this game. I was just a naive teen, didn't even have a job yet, but saved enough money to buy the next game in my favorite franchise of all time. I had played every game in the franchise up to that point (First was RA2, Favorite is the original C&C(my grandfather had the entire collection on physical disk and I would just sit and read the little books they came with for hours)). So being the uber fan I was, I bought it day 1 at full price. By the end of that day, I wanted to return it. I have never felt more betrayed by a game. When we went to the local game store, they lowballed me hard, so I didn't end up returning it. After a month or so and all of the horrid reviews came streaming out (I had stopped playing the game entirely after day 1 so I didn't know how truely bad it was) I snapped the disk in half and threw it in the trash. I refuse to have that filth in my C&C collection.
If they ever want to make another Tiberian sequel, they could take the setting after GDI bad decision ending where Boyle win.
My close friend has been working in Bioware Edmonton for the past 5 years. Mass Effect Andromeda and Anthem being bad had nothing to do with EA, it was all the decisions made by Bioware management.
The End of All Things is better suited for a big spacebattle with giant spaceships
for a next possible subject : *PERIMETER* a never really popular game that when I first played it 15 years ago, I found it weird
it has a focus on terraformation and territory control with a limited number of "squad" that you can control
it got an expansion called *Emperor's Testament*
and a sequel... that was not made by the same studio... or the same publisher... and even less people like it.
it's a very niche and obscure game that I believe will not bring a lot of views.
We can't play it. Don't know if it's fortunate or not that it was removed from the store on Steam.
But truthfully, having GDI and NOD allied was a good premise, and if it was changed to them fighting the Scrin and separatists from both factions (GDI and NOD separatists) would've been a good change of pace in my opinion. And then have the mechanics reworked and you have an ok to great game.
I don't like the blame being leveled solely at EA. They've been involved in Command and Conquer since early, since Tiberian Sun or Red Alert 2. Command and Conquer 3 was purely an EA product. It certainly wasn't all good, but until Red Alert 3 had had mixed reception due to their licensing stuff, they were pretty respectful of C&C
I agree to an extent, but it was purely upper managements fault that CNC4 became what it did. If they had let the team make a more traditional game like CNC3, I'm sure it would've turned out much better!
tiberian twilight is fun if you're an open minded moba fan. the campaign isnt good but ive had a lot of fun with the multiplayer. the online community is very welcoming as well.
is almost like they told an ai to generate the worst version of tiberium wars the ai could, and ended up with the mess we call, tiberium twilight
When i thought the Complete C&C collection I actually was suprised to find another game on there. A while C&C game i havent heard of yet? A game from the tiberium daga aswell? Splendid! Yet, unsurprisingly, my disappointment was immesaureable and my day was ruined.
Would recommend tue empire c&&c collection its a really good buy.
Best unit, repaired mammoth tank mark 2
OST feels like it's been ripped from Homeworld.
Wait didn’t Kane enter the tower and ascend in the previous instalment?
I do believe that the guy shouldn't have ever existed, but...what's so bad from being Chaotic, fast-paced and tactical in battles? If done right, like Company of Heroes 1 and 2, it can be enjoyable, even if frustrating, confusing, and stressful. Mainly competetive, doe.
Question is: should you EVER play it? Answer is NO! Disgrace to the RTS and C&C franchise
would've preferred a gdi & scrin expansion to c&c3 along with the planned tiberium game
Me too man. Scrin were badass
bro, u made a mistake, there is no Command @ Conquer 4...silly youtubers Kappa
RoyalCommando1996 yes it does not exist it a was hynosis campaign by a secret society to mess with humanity
C&C 4 is not Canon
There is C&C4: Tiberian Twilight, it is the sequel to C&C3 kappa
What CnC 4?
I've never heard of that bullshit, they've stopped the games at Kane's Wrath and that's it
no cnc 4 was never announced, not even in alternative universes you can find cnc 4 because it never existed
Okay, Kane's Wrath is a Prequel to Tiberium Wars in some ways (yes i know that in Kane's wrath we're giving Sub-factions and factions and new stuff like super units, new units and new powers, still, The events of Tib Wars Start in the middle of Kane's wrath like sarajevo temple prime you're being attacked by unknown forces that seem to be Kilian's and probably are [not gonna spoil].In Kane's wrath you're given new objectives and see from the eyes of the traitors while in Tib wars you're shown from the eyes of the commander that's defending it, in Kane's wrath you're supposed to do something to make something [just gonna stop it here so i don't spoil anything any further]
@@GokuOffersYouAPotara Kilian wasn't the traitor in that mission. You were basically fighting against yourself.
No, and to be clear you shouldn't play it at any point in time ever.
Simple, to the point. I like it
I mean it is a game published for the moneys, it was sad to see what happened to our beloved C&C.
Its true its the worst! total cac killer still can't get over with what ea did to the games. Still no comeback either just that crappy mobile game
I tried the mobile game before judging it.... ea/10 would not buy lootboxes again.
@@UKARCADES2015 It's not all hopeless, we're getting a remaster of Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert 1, although, I am afraid of the monotization policies in them.
the new Scorpion is literally a tank with an Obelisk welded to it.
Atleast it looks like a scorpion now
The new scorpion is not what i want to call scorpion
I made the same design in concept art when I was 12 lol
@John the Skub miner NO LACK OF COURAGE
@Choudhry Ali *laughs in Scorpion Rocket, Max Salvage and Junk Repair Upgrade*
I would have had no problem if it started it's own series or at least called a spin off . But calling it " C&C4" doesn't sound good . I would have called it "C&C strike team " . That's because it is basically you killing the enemy with a small team while not having a base.
The point-capture mechanics also matches poorly with the crawlers.
I 100% agree. It's like Renegade, people would've been pissed if that came out and was called 'CNC3' or whatever. I was actually going to mention that in the vid but it was long enough already!
Huh, didn't even think about a different name compared to cnc4, good point. @Zade Renegade is a really good example indeed, loved the game, probably less as "cnc3".
I like the way you think, here's my two cents...Tiberium Turd. Flush it down Kane's toilet.
In better news, the original westwood developers working on new C&C...yay! :D
You missed one thing.at launch the single-player and multi-player were linked making it very hard,if not impossible to complete the first few missions,which forced me into Multiplayer to get access to the tools I needed for the missions in question. Not to mention the idiots I ran into Online which spammed one type of unit,then accused me of spamming units when I deployed the counter-units against there spam.
I sided with GDI because that's just my favorite faction in the series, but in the next cutscene I found out that colonel whomever is suddenly acting against the wishes of high command and I'm renegade. Since, you know, avoiding that was the whole reason I didn't go with the much cooler Kane, I stopped playing.
What's up with those GDI uniforms, anyways? UCP wouldn't have felt out of place in maybe the first two games, but come on. It's in the future! Where's the future uniforms!
In the wardrobe department that they couldn't afford.
Yeah, awesome right! Also the P90's in 2060 :thinking:
@@Zade_95 They have probably watched this video ua-cam.com/video/NjlCVW_ouL8/v-deo.html
Imagine not having faith in Kane.
2070 budget cuts hit GDI really hard
I remember seeing this come out and was super excited, then I played it, and didn't play another C&C for 5 years.
Ouch, I just went back to playing C&C 3. And even booted up the old Red Alert 2.
This is depressing. Decpacito, play country roads
What version of country roads? 1976 or 2076?
*play No Mercy*
The paradox is that playing the campaign on release leveled you up super slowly, so you had to grind multiplayer to progress in single player and grind single player to stand a chance in multiplayer.
It was really confusing for me why I didn't have the last technology tree on the last missions but then this is the answer. Well, that's a fucked up design. Luckily the game was super easy after I found the working strategy so I didn't need the better upgrades and units.
I forgot about this part of the game. Remembering things from when I was 10 years old is difficult, but I remember EXP farming maps
I seriously cannot fathom any of the great RTS' having an unlock system in like this. Older C&C titles, Supreme Commander, Dawn of War, Earth. As much as I'd love an XP system to work towards cool flags, titles or something, just ...what?? I'm surprised it didn't come with MTX to skip the progression.
"EA Games: Disgrace everything!"
EA Games: Company people try to force reasons to hate them
(Not with C&C4, just in general)
.... except C&C Remastered just came out and I hope it's a start of a good trend for the franchise.
@@TheArtkaw I guarantee you it is
Not really. Tiberium Wars and Generals were lit.
@@hiyoritokisada594 Yeah C&C 3 and Generals were extremely fun imo
The Scrin where only there to harvest Tiberium however they where not expecting any life to still exist by the time they came to harvest and end up getting obliterated by GDI. But the Scin campaign which was only accessible if you beat both the Nod and GDI campaign the head of the Scrin efforts was going to come back with a full invasion force. But since there is no Tiberium left at the end of C&C 4 they had no reason to come back. That is how I would put it if the game needed a explanation to the absence of the Scrin.
Got ya - makes sense!
Ah, the great unspeakable disaster. The apocalypse that ruined our C&C communities and the franchise for years and years. Only now are there small seeds of hope growing again, amidst the desolate EA postnuclear wasteland. You might think I'm being overly dramatic. But words can not really express how devastating this game was to our communities. The fans playing since Tiberian Dawn and all who followed us after. EA did gather the most prominent C&C community members to the very first gamescom to present us with this game. The reaction should have already been enough proof to EA that they should pull the plug while they still could and move on. But they didn't. To make matters worse, Starcraft 2 was set to release later that year as well. Oh APOC, he tried his best organizing this. After that conference, 2 EA employees got fired while they were in Cologne with us. Many more were fired later, some others left EA or worked in another EA Studio on other projects. The C&C franchise was dropped BEFORE C&C4 even released. I will never forgive them.
You are being overdramatic. The remasters aren't "seeds of hope" (of any size), they're less-offensive cash grabs.
I got into it with Tiberium wars on Xbox 360 and this was obviously not even remotely close to my expectations.
@GLA POSTAL SERVICE The problem is that EA will never have what it takes to make a new C&C game. You will just be throwing your money at a dead horse while sustaining the disease that killed it. We need to let EA die off. Everything they have touched is already gone. Sure a remaster would be great, but sending a signal to EA that the fanbase is still alive will not yield the C&C4 you had hoped for. It will at most result in the same kind of failure that already happened before. There will be a great idea, and all the delusional higher-ups trying to please their bosses with poisonous get-rich-quick schemes to slowly kill it off and transform it into an abomination.
I love your username btw.
Soviet Accent* The Apocalypse has begun.
Bro for real? Tell me you joking right?
Tiberium twighlight is the heartache of the cnc fandom
Let's agree on one thing. C&C4 and C&C:Rivals don't exist at all. Anyone who thinks otherwise must go home and rethink his life.
C&C4 is a real MOBA, it's just not a Command and Conquer game.
@@sethb3090 Yeah, here's the thing. If they didn't make it as a Command and Conquer game, it would be more well recieved as a new IP. But oh no.
Couldn't agree more!
They both never existed. ever.
You are so right 👍🏻
RIP Westwood, you're truly missed *as a tear rolls down his cheek*
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Friend: “Hey what’s command and conquer?”
Me: “It’s a good game and ends at Kane’s wraith”
Friend: “oh but it says it has fo-“
Me: *grabs him* “Thou shall not speak of the horrible game and the foul company who ruined it”
20 Minutes when all you needed to say was "No"?
Just kidding it's good to have a clear and unbiased review of a game.
Hah, thanks!
The music is missing it's daily dose of Frank Klepacki.
C&C Thang is still on my play list after all these years.
Great scores from Him.
I still listen to the tiberium sun score. Great album
Hate to say this but I always thought his music was plain fucking WIERD! Hell March and the other rock tracks were ok, but the techno, spoken word, industrial stuff....I'll pass.
Tiberium wars be like : We reclaimed a yellow zone to a blue zone :D ! Twilight be like : Nope that shiet never happened, the world is doomed :(
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Tiberian Sun be like: Tiberium spread across the Planet, Humanity had to adapt and is struggling to survive. Wars be like: Nope. 90% of those Tiberium variations don't exist and about the rest, we're pushing it back and have basically restored earth how it was in the late 90s or early 2000s. Give us another 40 years and Tiberium will be extinct. Wait ALIENS!!!!
I mean... Tiberium Wars literally shows you why it's doomed. Kane manipulates GDI into detonating a liquid tiberium bomb at Temple Prime, causing an explosion of Tiberium growth and undoing GDI's reclamation efforts. That's why shit is so bad in C&C4.
There are many flaws with C&C4 but continuity is not one of them. It picked up where C&C3 left it almost exactly. Scrin gone, Threshold 19 still there, tiberium spreading out of control.
@@TheBeastCH Blue Zones had always maintained relatively modern living standard in the previous games. the only region that had been reclaimed was middle europe, germany specifically, and they still had to continue abatement with sonic technology. Yellow zones are still rife with struggles, and red zones are hellscapes. We even see this in the italy missions.
There weren't even that many tiberium variations in the previous game: there are green, blue, and red. Only red no longer exists. Unless you're talking about Tiberium lifeforms? That's a valid point, but to be fair there weren't much non-tiberium lifeform left either. Amazon forest literally became desert. Even if the tiberium suddenly vanish from Earth, like in CnC 4, starvation would still become rampant problem. But these aren't really relevant other than as a motive for people to join Nod despite the faction's horrible attrition rates.
@@Raynsideways Kane's Wrath also showed that Kane had been destabilizing and fighting reclamation efforts around the globe. The detonation of GDI's australian laboratories being the prime example.
7:53 That Mastodon is really the ONE thing that saves Tiberian Twilight from oblivion for me. OK, and maybe the second-to-last GDI mission, which really should have been the final mission given it’s a 1v3 ending
FAIR
mastodon is dope
I remember being so excited the day I saw CnC4 in my local gamestore. I bought it without a thought and rushed home to play it. Then after no time at all I realised there was no base building and everything seemed weird and different and I was so disappointed I uninstalled it. Six months later I picked it off the shelf and thought maybe I had been rash and not given it a fair chance so I tried playing it again and again after some hours of play it just didn't feel like classic CnC. Sigh. Anyhow that Bioware ending was hilarious. I freaking love Mass Effect but also had the same happen when I bought Andromeda which is still uninstalled since the first play attempt... 😕
I've reinstalled that mess of a game so many times as well hoping something changed 🤣 that game was such a let down
C&C 4 is a terrible game, but Rivals is worse.
extremely true!
"Should you Play it in 2019?" I think the question should be "CAN you Play it in 2019?"
And the answer is: No. Because the login servers required to play it are gone.
Not that I can tell! It worked for me just fine - maybe they are Origin specific?
@@Zade_95 I played through it just fine a few months ago.
I don't know about you, but I consider this a good thing.
This game may be redeemed by renaming it as cnc3 expansion, alongside with Kane's Wrath 'global conquest'.
Call it strike team or crawler mode or whatever.
C&C: Whatever
Has a certain ring to it
I mean, it would have been honest.
Command & Conquer 3 was the last good one in the series. Don't bother with twilight it's garbage.
I'm still on the fence about RA3. It's graphics are great (using the SAGE 2), if a bit on the cartoony side, but the campaigns were pathetically easy (with a few mission exceptions) and the expansion pack (Uprising), although a bit of fresh air for the single play content, was completely lacking multiplayer.
I like generals
@@petercampi2840 I hated RA3.way cartoony and comedic for my taste and the women? Lol pathetic. That game is for boys
You, my dear Sir, deserve a commendation to have done the daunting task of reviewing this tragedy o.o7
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Doing my duty.
Man, this made me go back and watch the old cutscenes. As far as the whole "Kane has been here thousands of years" that's heavily implied as far back as the OG C&C. Not that he's a superbeing, but that he is immortal or something similar. In the FPS spin off Renegade, which is criminally underrated imo, you can find an area while exploring the Temple of Nod with what appears to be the tomb of Abel, and a line from Kane when you find this area implies that Kane is the Cain from the biblical story of Kane and Abel.
Edit:I'd also like to add that I appreciate you giving this an objective review. I always know I'm going to have a solid, objective review of anything you put up on your channel. Even though from time to time I subjectively disagree, I haven't found anything on your channel that I can say isn't true. Your channel is one of like, three or four channels that I actually have the notification bell set up for. Just wanted to say thanks for always putting out good content.
Also, if this had come out without the C&C name attached, it would just be forgotten game that wasn't particularly bad or good.
A renegade review would be interesting!!
I wish the 2nd fps Tiberium was not canceled. that could of been flushed out what we already know from Renegade, just in my own head canon I really loved the trailer to it too.