It's the kind of thing you do if you have way more free time to be making sure that everything's working out all right than I do, but it's pretty cool.
You have do your research like said give lots a space. Would be interested in video about fish that cohabitation with RES and Snapping turtle. So far all the fish get eaten. I am thanking about just having aquarium with fish. 🐍
Me and my girlfriend are building a large double column tv stand bioctive vivarium. Anoles (one male) and a rough green snake, or smooth if I can find one
The zoo I volunteer at keeps nine reptile species on display, and another nine behind the scenes we use as ambassadors. Of those, we keep six of the eighteen species in mixed species setups: - our blood python and red tailed Ratsnake live together in a huge tank in our Rainforest Building. - in the Rainforest building, two Red-footed Tortoises live in a large Aviary with a variety of birds, including Victorian Crowned pigeons, fruit doves, crested wood partridges, ringed teals, sunbittern, purple glossy starlings, and more. - in our education department, a southeast Asian Box turtle and eastern Box Turtle share the same exhibit. - our rescued sulcata tortoise lives in our Kangaroo Yard- along with two red kangaroos and an emu. It may seem like an unconventional choice, but it gives the Tortoise a large amount of land and none of the species pose a risk to each other, despite not occurring on the same continents.
cohab is sooooooooo interesting, as long as everybody's needs are met and nobody is stressed out by the other animals it would be a dream to have a paludarium such as the one you showed
My top two favorites are green tree frog/green anole cohabitation and paludarium cohabitations with arboreal and aquatic species. There's always the risk of interspecies transmission, though.
Just one thing, newts and salamanders are very much closely related. In fact, newts are salamanders. There are salamanders that aren't newts but all newts are salamanders. Axolotls and spanish newts aren't particularly closely related but they're both salamanders. It's a great video, I'd like to see the second part.
I had a good idea for a video. Get about 30-40 commonly kept reptiles and put them into a tier list according to them as pets a little like what Clint does but in a tier system. It may be a long video but I think that’s what the people would love 💓
@@WickensWickedReptiles I won’t be able to do it until I’m older but I’m planning on having a large reptile collection so cohabbing things like this would be amazing!
I had to research that Spanish Ribbed Newt. That defense mechanism is wild! Thanks for using the footage. I know people are here mainly for the reptiles, but some of us (ehem...me 😆) has a deep love for these frogs. Great video and would love to see a part 2. ❤️🦎
Thank you. There’s a lot of conflicting stuff out there. I keep community fish tanks, and I always thought that you should be able to keep some reptiles in communities as well!
I love that you manage to keep fish with your turtle. I can not keep even the fastest fish with my redear. He is a notorious hunter. I actually can't keep snails with him either. I have an extra tank for snails to feed him. It just keeps plants, a few frogs, and SNAILS. Once every couple weeks I dump 1/8 cup of live snails into his tank and he has them eaten by the end of the day. He will hunt for hours till he has gobbled every one of them up.
This is one of my favourite youtubers and he is so underrated he deserves a lot of Recognition bc he is very well educated with reptiles etc also he lives where I live and when he recommends any pet store and what’s best in Canada to have it’s exceptionally nice to know so thank you for providing this amazing content😊😁
I've always dreamed of having a mansion filled with enclosures instead of rooms. Maybe just have a tiny one bedroom apartment in the basement and some little observation areas sprinkled in between natural enclosures. Minimum hooman space just for maintenance of the enclosures. No electronics except what is needed for observation, research and necessities for me.
I've always comsidered the reptile hobby to be similar to the aquarium hobby, but with this topic the two can't be more different from eachother😂 I have several aquariums with more than like 6 species in them, which is totally normal, but if I'd have more than one species of reptile in my terrarium the world would explode (according to the Internet😉).
Since birds are also reptile, I do have a combination. Poultry and big tortoises do good together as well in a large area. Chicken, duck and geese will most likely leave a big tortoise alone as they roam the yard together. However, you have to make sure your tortoises won’t get all their food eaten by the much quicker birds, so perhaps feeding them in separate pen or only allowing the birds to enter tortoises’ area at specific time of day.
@@WickensWickedReptiles I really would never think a big UA-camr would read or reply to my comment 😂 big surprise. I just thought it was funny that I didn’t pay attention at all due to the fact I was watching a beardie wave
Texas born and raised, and my obsession with reptiles began with catching Green Anoles as a kid. Unfortunately, at least down in the Houston/Galveston area, we've been seeing a HUGE INCREASE of Bahamian Anoles, and a HUGE FALL of the Green Anoles I caught as a kid. This just makes me want to try and keep them even more, now as an adult that can lol
@@amandabrown5619 depending on where you live, such as Australia, where you can only keep native species as pets so it might actually be easier for this person to keep a native themed tank than animals from other areas.
I’ve been thinking about building a 3x2x3 community vivarium for a while. I’ve put the idea on hold for now, but I’m still doing some research here and there. Will definitely go for it in the future though. Oh also, something that I don’t think was mentioned in the video, QUARANTINE YOUR ANIMALS!
Sooooooo, I promise I know what im doing, but I've been experimenting with cohab vivariums pretty much my whole herpetological career. I ALWAYS research heavilly and care for the species individually first, way too many factors to not take this is steps for ANY cohab project in my opinion. But the only death I ever have had what of a long-tailed lizard who was eaten by a whites tree frog, who then threw it back up. People don't realize how insane of predators frogs are ecologically and morphologically. My idea was that the anoles I had in with the frogs weren't getting eaten so maybe the long tails wont either, well the while the long tails were quick even to get their body out the way the frog would just catch the tail. I of course kept the other long tails in the enclosure to see why they got caught and eventually saw two they had their tails missing, so idk why the one that died didn't drop his tail but the others were able to get away tailless. to anyone trying this: 1. heat/temp: just make sure you can accommodate a space in the enclosure that fit the requirements of each species that covers a large enough space that you would've kept that specific species by itself. 2. just be smart and don't push it too much: like don't get any sort of notoriously aggressive/defensive or territorial animal. I've been offered to work with tokay's three different times and their just isn't anything suggesting that it would work out. 3. SIZE, SIZE, SIZE: in theory, virtually all animals can be kept together if given enough size. think about it, we all live in one giant vivarium called earth, also (I would never really do this) technically iguanas live with green anoles and alligators. So, if you are planning on doing this make sure you go BIG, and i mean big. i kept my first successful cohab of green anoles, brown anoles, long tailed lizards, fire bellied toads, green tree frogs, and small crested geckos in a 4ft, 3ft, 5ft vivarium. 4. establish the smaller species first 5. diurnal vs nocturnal: this one is surprisingly effective. If everyone is fed and the smaller species is non active during the bigger species time then no reason to waste energy attacking the other species. remember, animals don't WANT to fight they would prefer never having to waste energy on food or territory ever, so they wont go out of their way to do that. 6. arboreal vs terrestrial vs fossorial vs aquatic: again surprisingly effective for pretty much the same reasons as diurnal vs nocturnal. I've always wanted to do a youtube channel and talk abut these things, but the reptile community is just so toxic (especially here in saint louis) and I was literally afraid to do it, despite working at the best reptile store in Missouri and being offered a job at the stl zoo herpetarium. The way you go about your videos with a more open mind to the hobby has started giving me more confidence. I'm building an enclosure for my school and kind want to record the process now, so either thank you for giving me the confidence to maybe start a successful youtube career, or screw you for giving me the nerve to get attacked on youtube.
I've done research and now have about 10 species of reptiles, as well as 4 species of frogs living in a 120 gallon enclosure. I plan to expand the size to 280 gallons within the next few months. They have all been doing very well going into a year so things are looking bright.
I successfully cohabitate my blue green iguans with my red foot tortoise and my tiger salamander with my leopard frog. As long as everyone is well fed, the heat and humidity requirements for all inhabitants are met and the enclosure is large enough with plenty of places to hide, cohabitation can work really well.
Well, hi there! :) Love the video idea!!! It is a very controversial topic and years ago people might have perma-banned you on a forum, if you even suggested cohabitation of different species. Now we know that communal setups can work well long-term, too. And with "work" I mean, that all of the pairs/groups within the setup freely show breeding activity without interference of the other. But as you said, lots of research must be done prior to putting different species into one setup. I did my homework and now I am a big fan of Ingo Kober, a German long-term reptile keeper and expert for geckos. In his book he recommended the cohabitation of day geckos and giant millipedes, which works out great for me! My giant day gecko and the 4 Madagascan Spirostreptidae sp. 6 (also advertised as Aphistogoniulus polleni) get along nicely, as in they seem to ignore each other. Both species climb all the time, but they use different branches: The gecko mainly uses leaf surfaces and smooth bamboo, while the millipedes stay on the rough branches with lichen and moss to feed on. I can also imagine that the red-eyed tree frogs that you mentioned would work within the setup, though this is a far cry, because I do not have a water feature in the scape as of now. Except for the bromeliad puddles, but I guess that will not do the trick, will it? Kober also successfully kept and bred nocturnal and diurnal species of geckos within one setup, giant Madagascan day geckos (Phelsuma grandis) and leaftail geckos (Uroplatus henkeli) in his case. This combo works, because both of these species actually have quite a range of temperatures that they thrive at, but most importantly because the U. henkeli can tolerate the warm spot of the day geckos within their habitat. Leaftails generally are not high temperature species at all and usually need on-point humidity levels! This specific cohabitation requires a very large enclosure though and should not be attempted by beginner reptile keepers, because it is easy to lose track of your inhabitants the more you have in one enclosure. I have also read that Gonocephalus/Hypsilurus (angle-headed dragons) species have a huge potential for community setups due to their calm and gentle nature, as well as their strictly insectivorous diet. If you want to check out these forest dragons I warmly suggest to check out Coops Reptiles channel: ua-cam.com/channels/PXnZ8xWV1g-SvF9MPtqP2A.html Much love from Germany! MP PS: I liked the previous intro music MUCH better! ;)
Cohabbing species is fascinating kinda pushing into deeper territory of a more naturalistic setup depending on if you can set up a small ecosystem successfully. 🦎
Hey Adam, I’m happy you mentioned the newts as your #4. I have two spanish newts in my paludarium with reed frogs and different types of fish. I even have shrimp in there and they don’t bother eachother.
I have a lot of experience with Cohousing in vivariums, a lot through failure, And your 'rules of thumb' are very accurate, it's all about the environment they need and the size of the terrarium, I have peruphasma schultei living above the den of my Forrest scorpion,
I think this video was definitely an eye opener for me, as many mentioned prior I wasn’t aware of just how common cohabitation was, cheers for that. Also I’m not sure about your interest on the topic but I feel like videos like top 5 inverts list and top 5 or 10 North American Colubrids would be videos that would strike interesting. Love the videos, keep up the great work.🦎
I used to have a Spanish ribbed newt when I was younger. I actually bought him as a fire belly newt, so it was quite a shock when he grew to a length of 30 cms. Although he had a land area, in the 8 years, I've only seen him use it once, and that was due to a thermostat malfunctions which made the water to hot. Very awesome animals
This is the herping version of building a big betta harem with catfish, frogs, shrimp, and snails for cleanup instead of buying one pretty betta and sticking him in a little bowl with a single fake plant 😁😁😁
What I think would be cool is actually doing connected enclosures with different microclimates that all sit within a certain temp range of the things you plan on cohab and making each tank specific to that animals needs. This way the animals can cross to the other tank but will prefer to live in the one built for their needs.
Great video! And the quality of the picture is awesome. I've commented under previous video that your camera loses focus and the overall quality wasn't as good but I can already see huge improvment.
I just bought 3 baby morning geckos from a reptile expo and was planning on getting dart frogs too, but they were pretty much wiped out. In putting together a 18x18x24 thrive tank to put them both in. There will be two darts and 3 mourning geckos. Since they need very simular things, are awake at opposite time ( darts being diurnal and mourning geckos being nocturnal ), and stay on opposite parts of the tank ( the geckos in the top, the frogs on the bottom ) they are prefect for cohabitation! I can't wait for my babies to grow big enough to put them in their huge tank!
I wouldn't mind having anoles again. Only problem is that my tropical terrarium is occupied by Crested Gecko and something moving around fast during the day might stress her out.
Its also usually not a good idea to mix reptiles and amphibians because they often have vastly different temp and humidity requirements. There's very few good examples, but usually mourning geckoes, gonatodes ,sphaerodactylus, can go with dart frogs, and dwarf chameleons can go with mantellas. Anoles dont do well with treefrogs due to differences in tempreture and humidity unless you have a massive tank.
I love the idea of cohabing and making the vivariums as real as possible. Really liked the video and will probably do research and think about a tank mate for my gray tree frog. 🦎
Might attempt having mourning geckos with dart frogs (D. tinctorius), same requirements, won't eat each other, one is arboreal and nocturnal, other is mainly terrestrial and fully diurnal, it seems to be a successful combination for a number of people. Paludariums are great for cohab because they are made of two worlds and inhabitants of each often stay in the relevant one (water or arboreal). 🦎
Also I take my boas outside when the weather is fantastic..they often see the wild green anoles on trees or the fence and watch them closely as they bob up and down flashing their dewlaps...its kinda funny. The baby boas on the other hand want to hunt them.
Having done a community tank it's amazing. Understand there is a probability of loosing some animals. But also IMHO your in a sweet spot between the harshness of their natural environments (where survivability is abysmal) and the laboratory isolation that gives great metrics but is also sad in it's own way.
🦎🦎 This was EPIC! Please please please do a part 2! I hadn’t even heard of a few of those species. Totally awesome video, you hit it out of the park! 🦎🦎
i used to gohab in my paludarium (in the 1980) on the ground part 'red belly fire toad, in the water; african clawed toad, and some guppy's in the water, from my experience this can work creatly, but always be very carefull before you place different reptile and/or amphinian with each other, as mentioned make sure the have enough room for each other and observe how the react/interact with each other
C'mon you left out the perfect tortoise/snake cohabitation , Dumeril's boas and Radiated tortoises they are found in the same habitat in Madagascar! You know back in the sixties Chicago Zoological park(AKA Brookfield Zoo) put tortoises in some of their snake enclosures to get the snakes to move around a bit. They also had one co hab failure they had a boa constrictor on a big piece of driftwood with a diamond piece of steel to keep the snake form climbing up the cable that had the wood suspended over the assorted turtle pond. The land area of this enclosure was the overwintering area for the giant tortoises. So this was a big area. Neat idea seeing a boa without it being in a cage. Then somebody got the idea of putting free flight birds Trogons I think in this area. Things went well until the boa figured out it could just drop in the water and go bird hunting during the night. That is one expensive meal for a boa. I do remember that the tokay geckos were housed with the king cobra, think about most zoos have mixed enclosures and a visit to a zoo might give you some ideas and talking with keepers might dive you some examples of things that didn't work. H'mmm elephant trunk snakes and mangrove or red tail rat snakes that might be a nice look.
I’m actually experimenting with this rn, i have a rhino rat and a rough green together for about two months now. Both of these species can be kept in pairs of their own kind and have similar habitat requirements (lots of foliage and water source) so they seem quite compatible. They snuggle up to each other all the time and never showed any signs of distress. The rough green is confident and is always exploring or basking out in the open. I was worried he wouldnt feel safe since they’re very shy snakes but he’s actually quite social with my rhino! Would also like to try with my lucy black rat and prasinum since they’re both semi arboreal but idk yet, my prasinum is still small so i’m going to sit on that thought. Prasinums can also be kept as pairs like other green snakes mentioned.
I saw a guy who had a big tent with about 7 different species of reptiles in it. It looked good as an enclosure, but I couldn't help but think he had acquired all those animals within the span of a week and put em all in there together. I wish I could remember the name of that channel. I asked him how long he had owned them but I rarely check back on my yt comments.
i have a 55 gallon paludarium i made cohabing a female emerald swift, female green anole, green tree frog, and a crested gecko. 2.5~ gallon pool/waterfall with some neon tetras. The emerald swift and anole have already been together for a year in there old tank and are best friends, most often found basking right next to each other if not on top one another, the frog and crestie do what they do and hide under ledges and foliage, fish do fish things
what do you think about multi species cohab?
i think its cool
can you do another 10 gallon vid because I have an extra ten gallon but Idk what to put in it
Hey what can you cohabitate with crested geckos
It's the kind of thing you do if you have way more free time to be making sure that everything's working out all right than I do, but it's pretty cool.
You have do your research like said give lots a space. Would be interested in video about fish that cohabitation with RES and Snapping turtle. So far all the fish get eaten. I am thanking about just having aquarium with fish. 🐍
I think a big community palaudarium in the living room would be way more interesting and cooler than a big flatscreen TV 🦎
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That's what we have. Two enclosures no TV
Guess what I just bought and building in my living room? Lol I will have a short on it
Me and my girlfriend are building a large double column tv stand bioctive vivarium. Anoles (one male) and a rough green snake, or smooth if I can find one
The zoo I volunteer at keeps nine reptile species on display, and another nine behind the scenes we use as ambassadors. Of those, we keep six of the eighteen species in mixed species setups:
- our blood python and red tailed Ratsnake live together in a huge tank in our Rainforest Building.
- in the Rainforest building, two Red-footed Tortoises live in a large Aviary with a variety of birds, including Victorian Crowned pigeons, fruit doves, crested wood partridges, ringed teals, sunbittern, purple glossy starlings, and more.
- in our education department, a southeast Asian Box turtle and eastern Box Turtle share the same exhibit.
- our rescued sulcata tortoise lives in our Kangaroo Yard- along with two red kangaroos and an emu. It may seem like an unconventional choice, but it gives the Tortoise a large amount of land and none of the species pose a risk to each other, despite not occurring on the same continents.
Ok this video was NOTHING what I expected it to be. I honestly thought it was about reptiles like garter snakes. This is so eye opening
awesome!
cohab is sooooooooo interesting, as long as everybody's needs are met and nobody is stressed out by the other animals it would be a dream to have a paludarium such as the one you showed
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And than an comunity aquarium with fish would he the dream
But then you need an huge canisterfilter (an canister filter is an huge filter out of water so it will suck out the poo or other stuff)
@@henk4700 I'm gonna post in 2 weeks with my paladarium. Keep an eye out
My top two favorites are green tree frog/green anole cohabitation and paludarium cohabitations with arboreal and aquatic species. There's always the risk of interspecies transmission, though.
Just one thing, newts and salamanders are very much closely related. In fact, newts are salamanders. There are salamanders that aren't newts but all newts are salamanders. Axolotls and spanish newts aren't particularly closely related but they're both salamanders. It's a great video, I'd like to see the second part.
"The mr clean guy behind the camera..." 🤣 stop it 🤣
hahaha
I had a good idea for a video. Get about 30-40 commonly kept reptiles and put them into a tier list according to them as pets a little like what Clint does but in a tier system. It may be a long video but I think that’s what the people would love 💓
Thanks for the idea!
@@WickensWickedReptiles This is such a cute idea. Like a tier list video. I want to make that tier list now...
I’m into this idea
I would watch this
Such a cool video! And so unexpected! I thought it would be just ‘garter snakes, mourning geckos, tokay geckos’
Having a BC and tortoise enclosure would be SO cool! My favourite snake and a really cool tortoise!
hope ithelps!
@@WickensWickedReptiles I won’t be able to do it until I’m older but I’m planning on having a large reptile collection so cohabbing things like this would be amazing!
Rib newts are literally a character from Naruto, who pulls his ribs out as swords 😂. Also, what a METAL name! ( kimimaro is the Naruto character, lol)
right!
I had to research that Spanish Ribbed Newt. That defense mechanism is wild!
Thanks for using the footage. I know people are here mainly for the reptiles, but some of us (ehem...me 😆) has a deep love for these frogs. Great video and would love to see a part 2. ❤️🦎
you have such a cool frog collection!
@@WickensWickedReptiles thanks!! Wait until you see the new species I will be adding down the road.
How did you comment so soon
@@frogchannel4049 if you are a Patreon supporter, you see the videos 2 days earlier. Adam mentions it in each video.
Yay! you did my idea from the community tab, Thanks !
Thanks for the idea!
@@WickensWickedReptiles 😋
Thank you. There’s a lot of conflicting stuff out there. I keep community fish tanks, and I always thought that you should be able to keep some reptiles in communities as well!
I love that you manage to keep fish with your turtle. I can not keep even the fastest fish with my redear. He is a notorious hunter. I actually can't keep snails with him either. I have an extra tank for snails to feed him. It just keeps plants, a few frogs, and SNAILS. Once every couple weeks I dump 1/8 cup of live snails into his tank and he has them eaten by the end of the day. He will hunt for hours till he has gobbled every one of them up.
I never would have guessed Tortise and an arboreal boa!
crazy right!
@@WickensWickedReptiles yesss!!!! I want to know more!!!
This is one of my favourite youtubers and he is so underrated he deserves a lot of Recognition bc he is very well educated with reptiles etc also he lives where I live and when he recommends any pet store and what’s best in Canada to have it’s exceptionally nice to know so thank you for providing this amazing content😊😁
Thanks for being all my research wicken!¡!¡!
Any time!
I've always dreamed of having a mansion filled with enclosures instead of rooms. Maybe just have a tiny one bedroom apartment in the basement and some little observation areas sprinkled in between natural enclosures. Minimum hooman space just for maintenance of the enclosures. No electronics except what is needed for observation, research and necessities for me.
I've always comsidered the reptile hobby to be similar to the aquarium hobby, but with this topic the two can't be more different from eachother😂 I have several aquariums with more than like 6 species in them, which is totally normal, but if I'd have more than one species of reptile in my terrarium the world would explode (according to the Internet😉).
Lol 3:21 the lizard waving in the left corner
King Jerry
Think you conveyed a lot of convincing examples that people don't think about! Not what I was expecting!
hope you enjoyed!
Love this vid, I think cohabitation is so interesting! Another vid would be really cool 🦎
Definitely!!
Agreed
Since birds are also reptile, I do have a combination. Poultry and big tortoises do good together as well in a large area. Chicken, duck and geese will most likely leave a big tortoise alone as they roam the yard together. However, you have to make sure your tortoises won’t get all their food eaten by the much quicker birds, so perhaps feeding them in separate pen or only allowing the birds to enter tortoises’ area at specific time of day.
Dope video as always, you’ll be 100k in no time & then 1 mil is coming I can feel it
You already know!
Aww man you are so close to 100k! Any day now it's gonna happen 👏👏 Good vid.
Can't wait!
I was just considering setting up a green anole + long tailed lizard enclosure. I would love to see a second part of this video! 🦎
My son has a 20 gallon with green, Bahaman anoles and long tail lizards and they leave each other alone get along great. It's pretty neat
Beware of male anoles, they can be nasty. Also, carefully choose specimens that are close in size to prevent predation.
At 3:09 diamond had another beardie waving at em 😂
hahaha he thought so
@@WickensWickedReptiles I really would never think a big UA-camr would read or reply to my comment 😂 big surprise. I just thought it was funny that I didn’t pay attention at all due to the fact I was watching a beardie wave
Texas born and raised, and my obsession with reptiles began with catching Green Anoles as a kid. Unfortunately, at least down in the Houston/Galveston area, we've been seeing a HUGE INCREASE of Bahamian Anoles, and a HUGE FALL of the Green Anoles I caught as a kid. This just makes me want to try and keep them even more, now as an adult that can lol
I'd love to do a native species paludarium someday. Be like having a little part of the wilderness in your home. 🦎
Be aware of the laws surrounding any native species you may not be able to keep!
@@amandabrown5619 depending on where you live, such as Australia, where you can only keep native species as pets so it might actually be easier for this person to keep a native themed tank than animals from other areas.
I’ve been thinking about building a 3x2x3 community vivarium for a while. I’ve put the idea on hold for now, but I’m still doing some research here and there. Will definitely go for it in the future though. Oh also, something that I don’t think was mentioned in the video, QUARANTINE YOUR ANIMALS!
at 3:10 the lizard in the left top corner is waving😆
jerry says hi!
Paladarium tanks are so pretty, and cohabitation makes for such a lively tank. I love it when done right 🦎
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Sooooooo, I promise I know what im doing, but I've been experimenting with cohab vivariums pretty much my whole herpetological career. I ALWAYS research heavilly and care for the species individually first, way too many factors to not take this is steps for ANY cohab project in my opinion. But the only death I ever have had what of a long-tailed lizard who was eaten by a whites tree frog, who then threw it back up. People don't realize how insane of predators frogs are ecologically and morphologically. My idea was that the anoles I had in with the frogs weren't getting eaten so maybe the long tails wont either, well the while the long tails were quick even to get their body out the way the frog would just catch the tail. I of course kept the other long tails in the enclosure to see why they got caught and eventually saw two they had their tails missing, so idk why the one that died didn't drop his tail but the others were able to get away tailless.
to anyone trying this:
1. heat/temp: just make sure you can accommodate a space in the enclosure that fit the requirements of each species that covers a large enough space that you would've kept that specific species by itself.
2. just be smart and don't push it too much: like don't get any sort of notoriously aggressive/defensive or territorial animal. I've been offered to work with tokay's three different times and their just isn't anything suggesting that it would work out.
3. SIZE, SIZE, SIZE: in theory, virtually all animals can be kept together if given enough size. think about it, we all live in one giant vivarium called earth, also (I would never really do this) technically iguanas live with green anoles and alligators. So, if you are planning on doing this make sure you go BIG, and i mean big. i kept my first successful cohab of green anoles, brown anoles, long tailed lizards, fire bellied toads, green tree frogs, and small crested geckos in a 4ft, 3ft, 5ft vivarium.
4. establish the smaller species first
5. diurnal vs nocturnal: this one is surprisingly effective. If everyone is fed and the smaller species is non active during the bigger species time then no reason to waste energy attacking the other species. remember, animals don't WANT to fight they would prefer never having to waste energy on food or territory ever, so they wont go out of their way to do that.
6. arboreal vs terrestrial vs fossorial vs aquatic: again surprisingly effective for pretty much the same reasons as diurnal vs nocturnal.
I've always wanted to do a youtube channel and talk abut these things, but the reptile community is just so toxic (especially here in saint louis) and I was literally afraid to do it, despite working at the best reptile store in Missouri and being offered a job at the stl zoo herpetarium. The way you go about your videos with a more open mind to the hobby has started giving me more confidence. I'm building an enclosure for my school and kind want to record the process now, so either thank you for giving me the confidence to maybe start a successful youtube career, or screw you for giving me the nerve to get attacked on youtube.
I would watch every single video you put out! You should totally do it!! (haters always gonna hate...)
@@LillyCat13456 gonna start in 3 weeks
@@vivalavivarium That's awesome!! Let me know when you go live and I will definitely subscribe!
🦎 When I get my own place I wanted to convert an entire room into an enclosure for my tortoise and potentially cohabitate him with a rhino iguana 😁🐢
nice!
I've done research and now have about 10 species of reptiles, as well as 4 species of frogs living in a 120 gallon enclosure. I plan to expand the size to 280 gallons within the next few months. They have all been doing very well going into a year so things are looking bright.
I successfully cohabitate my blue green iguans with my red foot tortoise and my tiger salamander with my leopard frog. As long as everyone is well fed, the heat and humidity requirements for all inhabitants are met and the enclosure is large enough with plenty of places to hide, cohabitation can work really well.
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Weird seeing comments from 2 days ago lmao
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Finally found a vid about community tanks. 🦎
More to come!
We love peaceful communities. Straight liberal lizards y’all.
Well, hi there! :) Love the video idea!!!
It is a very controversial topic and years ago people might have perma-banned you on a forum, if you even suggested cohabitation of different species. Now we know that communal setups can work well long-term, too. And with "work" I mean, that all of the pairs/groups within the setup freely show breeding activity without interference of the other. But as you said, lots of research must be done prior to putting different species into one setup.
I did my homework and now I am a big fan of Ingo Kober, a German long-term reptile keeper and expert for geckos. In his book he recommended the cohabitation of day geckos and giant millipedes, which works out great for me! My giant day gecko and the 4 Madagascan Spirostreptidae sp. 6 (also advertised as Aphistogoniulus polleni) get along nicely, as in they seem to ignore each other. Both species climb all the time, but they use different branches: The gecko mainly uses leaf surfaces and smooth bamboo, while the millipedes stay on the rough branches with lichen and moss to feed on. I can also imagine that the red-eyed tree frogs that you mentioned would work within the setup, though this is a far cry, because I do not have a water feature in the scape as of now. Except for the bromeliad puddles, but I guess that will not do the trick, will it?
Kober also successfully kept and bred nocturnal and diurnal species of geckos within one setup, giant Madagascan day geckos (Phelsuma grandis) and leaftail geckos (Uroplatus henkeli) in his case. This combo works, because both of these species actually have quite a range of temperatures that they thrive at, but most importantly because the U. henkeli can tolerate the warm spot of the day geckos within their habitat. Leaftails generally are not high temperature species at all and usually need on-point humidity levels! This specific cohabitation requires a very large enclosure though and should not be attempted by beginner reptile keepers, because it is easy to lose track of your inhabitants the more you have in one enclosure.
I have also read that Gonocephalus/Hypsilurus (angle-headed dragons) species have a huge potential for community setups due to their calm and gentle nature, as well as their strictly insectivorous diet. If you want to check out these forest dragons I warmly suggest to check out Coops Reptiles channel: ua-cam.com/channels/PXnZ8xWV1g-SvF9MPtqP2A.html
Much love from Germany!
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PS: I liked the previous intro music MUCH better! ;)
Cohabbing species is fascinating kinda pushing into deeper territory of a more naturalistic setup depending on if you can set up a small ecosystem successfully. 🦎
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Hey Adam, I’m happy you mentioned the newts as your #4. I have two spanish newts in my paludarium with reed frogs and different types of fish. I even have shrimp in there and they don’t bother eachother.
That reaction from bill to the komodo vid is gold lmao
hahaha
I have a lot of experience with Cohousing in vivariums, a lot through failure,
And your 'rules of thumb' are very accurate, it's all about the environment they need and the size of the terrarium,
I have peruphasma schultei living above the den of my Forrest scorpion,
THE MR CLEAN LOOKING GUY😭, love this chanel!
Been watching you for a while now love your vids, keep up the good work.🦎
Awesome! Thank you!
Your vids are always helpful man and are a highlight of my week 🤟🏻😁 🦎
Glad you like them!
I think this video was definitely an eye opener for me, as many mentioned prior I wasn’t aware of just how common cohabitation was, cheers for that. Also I’m not sure about your interest on the topic but I feel like videos like top 5 inverts list and top 5 or 10 North American Colubrids would be videos that would strike interesting. Love the videos, keep up the great work.🦎
Food for thought thanks man. Keep being awesome.
bro what is that snake doing in the top left at 3:08 LOL
The geck is waving
@@WickensWickedReptiles Oh ok nice. That’s really goofy! Why do they do that?
Good video, glad the hobby is evolving. I have a bullsnake with a bullfrog, along with various arthropods and snails, in a paludarium. Sky's the limit
That is awesome!
I used to have a Spanish ribbed newt when I was younger. I actually bought him as a fire belly newt, so it was quite a shock when he grew to a length of 30 cms. Although he had a land area, in the 8 years, I've only seen him use it once, and that was due to a thermostat malfunctions which made the water to hot. Very awesome animals
wow eh!
This is the herping version of building a big betta harem with catfish, frogs, shrimp, and snails for cleanup instead of buying one pretty betta and sticking him in a little bowl with a single fake plant 😁😁😁
basically!
Hi Adam. Thanks for all your video's they cover a lot of information. 🦎
loved this video! keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
What I think would be cool is actually doing connected enclosures with different microclimates that all sit within a certain temp range of the things you plan on cohab and making each tank specific to that animals needs. This way the animals can cross to the other tank but will prefer to live in the one built for their needs.
🦎 wonderful video again Adam! Keep up the good work!
Another great topic and very interesting 🦎
Glad you enjoyed it
Love your videos from one Adam to another keep on herping 🦎
Thank you! Will do!
Great video! And the quality of the picture is awesome. I've commented under previous video that your camera loses focus and the overall quality wasn't as good but I can already see huge improvment.
This was very interesting. I know a reptile keeper that cohabs his animals together in huge custom made enclosures. Id love to see a part 2🐲🦎
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I just bought 3 baby morning geckos from a reptile expo and was planning on getting dart frogs too, but they were pretty much wiped out. In putting together a 18x18x24 thrive tank to put them both in. There will be two darts and 3 mourning geckos. Since they need very simular things, are awake at opposite time ( darts being diurnal and mourning geckos being nocturnal ), and stay on opposite parts of the tank ( the geckos in the top, the frogs on the bottom ) they are prefect for cohabitation! I can't wait for my babies to grow big enough to put them in their huge tank!
🦎great information! Love the videos keep em coming!
Part 2 and 3 for sure !
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I wouldn't mind having anoles again. Only problem is that my tropical terrarium is occupied by Crested Gecko and something moving around fast during the day might stress her out.
Definitely need a part two, maybe you could include some insects as well??🦎
Great video bud... keep up the great work 👌
This is awesome. Your videos just keep getting cooler and cooler
Not gonna lie I was not expecting to see a Bill Burr clip on this channel but it was a nice surprise
well this one we made might blow your mind then... ua-cam.com/video/B7iWC6gFr8E/v-deo.html
@@WickensWickedReptiles that was the best thing I’ve seen today
That snake in the background really looked like it wanted to get out of its tanks during the whole video ahah..!
Hello great video information Adam
Great vid, I look forward to your videos each week!
I appreciate that!
Part 2 would be awesome
will make for sure!
Part two please and thank you!!!
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Adam: slaps turtle shell
Turtle: RED ALERT RED ALERT
Its also usually not a good idea to mix reptiles and amphibians because they often have vastly different temp and humidity requirements. There's very few good examples, but usually mourning geckoes, gonatodes ,sphaerodactylus, can go with dart frogs, and dwarf chameleons can go with mantellas. Anoles dont do well with treefrogs due to differences in tempreture and humidity unless you have a massive tank.
Yeah I have a paludarium with long tails green anoles and a green tree frog they all get along really good I also have some hermit crabs in there also
I love the idea of cohabing and making the vivariums as real as possible. Really liked the video and will probably do research and think about a tank mate for my gray tree frog. 🦎
Might attempt having mourning geckos with dart frogs (D. tinctorius), same requirements, won't eat each other, one is arboreal and nocturnal, other is mainly terrestrial and fully diurnal, it seems to be a successful combination for a number of people. Paludariums are great for cohab because they are made of two worlds and inhabitants of each often stay in the relevant one (water or arboreal). 🦎
That’s the kind of set up I’m working on right now! It was a super easy set up
3:11 in the backgound : hello
Jerry says hi
Thanks for another great vid! Keep them coming 😃
More to come!
My 13 year-old Beardie and I love your channel. 🦎
thanks so much!
Also I take my boas outside when the weather is fantastic..they often see the wild green anoles on trees or the fence and watch them closely as they bob up and down flashing their dewlaps...its kinda funny. The baby boas on the other hand want to hunt them.
Having done a community tank it's amazing.
Understand there is a probability of loosing some animals. But also IMHO your in a sweet spot between the harshness of their natural environments (where survivability is abysmal) and the laboratory isolation that gives great metrics but is also sad in it's own way.
🦎🦎 This was EPIC! Please please please do a part 2! I hadn’t even heard of a few of those species. Totally awesome video, you hit it out of the park! 🦎🦎
I think it's way more interesting for us and the reptiles/amphibians/fish when they can be together in a tank. Thanks for the video!🐍
For sure!
Great vid 🦎
thank you!
i used to gohab in my paludarium (in the 1980) on the ground part 'red belly fire toad, in the water; african clawed toad, and some guppy's in the water, from my experience this can work creatly, but always be very carefull before you place different reptile and/or amphinian with each other, as mentioned make sure the have enough room for each other and observe how the react/interact with each other
Awesome video, honestly wish all reptiles were cohabitable, would be awesome to see how they react to each other without worrying about fighting
for sure!!!
Part 2 definitely please
great footage man.from australia
thank you!
Would love to see a part 2 🦎
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C'mon you left out the perfect tortoise/snake cohabitation , Dumeril's boas and Radiated tortoises they are found in the same habitat in Madagascar! You know back in the sixties Chicago Zoological park(AKA Brookfield Zoo) put tortoises in some of their snake enclosures to get the snakes to move around a bit. They also had one co hab failure they had a boa constrictor on a big piece of driftwood with a diamond piece of steel to keep the snake form climbing up the cable that had the wood suspended over the assorted turtle pond. The land area of this enclosure was the overwintering area for the giant tortoises. So this was a big area. Neat idea seeing a boa without it being in a cage. Then somebody got the idea of putting free flight birds Trogons I think in this area. Things went well until the boa figured out it could just drop in the water and go bird hunting during the night. That is one expensive meal for a boa. I do remember that the tokay geckos were housed with the king cobra, think about most zoos have mixed enclosures and a visit to a zoo might give you some ideas and talking with keepers might dive you some examples of things that didn't work. H'mmm elephant trunk snakes and mangrove or red tail rat snakes that might be a nice look.
Anyone else notice that someone was waving hi in the upper left enclosure😂 3:11
Love your videos🦎
thanks so much!
I had a eastern garter snake that lived very peacefully with an anole. They often sun bathed together in a 40 gal long.
wow!
I’m actually experimenting with this rn, i have a rhino rat and a rough green together for about two months now. Both of these species can be kept in pairs of their own kind and have similar habitat requirements (lots of foliage and water source) so they seem quite compatible. They snuggle up to each other all the time and never showed any signs of distress. The rough green is confident and is always exploring or basking out in the open. I was worried he wouldnt feel safe since they’re very shy snakes but he’s actually quite social with my rhino! Would also like to try with my lucy black rat and prasinum since they’re both semi arboreal but idk yet, my prasinum is still small so i’m going to sit on that thought. Prasinums can also be kept as pairs like other green snakes mentioned.
I’m not an expert but the cuddling could be a sign of then competing for resources, like light and heat.
I saw a guy who had a big tent with about 7 different species of reptiles in it. It looked good as an enclosure, but I couldn't help but think he had acquired all those animals within the span of a week and put em all in there together. I wish I could remember the name of that channel. I asked him how long he had owned them but I rarely check back on my yt comments.
Been really looking into cohabbing and would love to see a part 2! 🦎🦎
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i have a 55 gallon paludarium i made cohabing a female emerald swift, female green anole, green tree frog, and a crested gecko. 2.5~ gallon pool/waterfall with some neon tetras. The emerald swift and anole have already been together for a year in there old tank and are best friends, most often found basking right next to each other if not on top one another, the frog and crestie do what they do and hide under ledges and foliage, fish do fish things
Interesting video, love the video 🦎
Glad you enjoyed it