What I read, the Celestials lost the war against the Aspirants. The Aspirants were the ones who built the Godkiller armor and almost wiped them out. They then stripped the armor and used it for their fleet. They effectively left the Celestials alone, as they were low in number. The Celestials regrouped. The Aspirants had an internal civil war, so the Celestials struck at them when they were at their weakest.
This was coming from recorder android telling it to Tony Stark though and it was from billions of years ago. They simply might have gotten the details mixed up or the android was defective in some way. We never did see these events depicted or transpire until these comics to be fair. It's important to note that this information did not come from either of these factions, it was second hand at best, if not far more removed than that.
I still go back and watch Rob's AMAZING video on the history of the Marvel Universe. It has the old format where Rob spoke a lot more softly and wasn't anywhere near as animated as he is now. I do much prefer the newer format for the most part, but that video will always be one of my faves. The score alone is a lot of fun. I think I'll go watch it right now, as a matter of fact.
This is probably one of my favorite videos about marvel comics ever to be made. It explains how the marvel universe started, from the VERY beginning. Bascially the Big Bang of the marvel universe. I’ve always wondered how the beyonders existed in the beyond verse, or why the celestials existed. Who created them? TOAA? This video is very entertaining and ties everything together
@@juhis1620 defenders beyond had blue marvel killing the matter form of Beyonder and true form Phoenix killed god of story Loki, blue marvel and Beyonder
@@YordkarYordkar: That would be called an “M-Body”, which is a form used to allow mortals to comprehend them. Basically, it’s not the real body. It’s a feat, but it ain’t nowhere near putting Blue Marvel at the Beyonder’s level.
@@fishnewt1331 it’s no different than hunter prey doomsday killing darkseid even we know from newer comics that was only a avatar. A matter form of Beyonder was shown and he was powerful and got defeated.
What Al Ewing is to Marvel’s space epics is Geoff Johns is to DC’s space epics. Marvel was so cheeks for cancelling Ultimates2 (drawn by Kenneth Rocafort). Such a good squad and perfect use of their intellect and powers. Eternity was in chains it was crazy.
This is the best story, marvel has ever done, having a sentient omniverse is amazing, who ever thought this up, needs an AWARD! Bring this to the big screen
Hey Rob hope all is well with you. Hope you can do a video on the news on Doctor Strange 3 news along with how it associates with Hickmans "Time Runs Out" story and the Black Priests. Along with how they're saying at the end of it that its gonna come down too Strange v Kang in Secret Wars to decide the multiverse and who you think wins that fight.
ROB, please do paradise and universe X! Earth X was 5 years ago and you never finished them! Please buddy please!!!! Love the channel. Been subscribed for years!
He's never gonna finish that story. I think it's because he knows it is just the vocal minority that wants it. Most of us don't care, lol. I would definitely watch it if he did finish it, but I don't see it happening.
Thanks Rob; at the point where I never look when the videos are from; I can just tell from your level of enthusiasm. I appreciate you helping me remember the stories of my childhood; but also I get to get into comics with my son now and it means a whole lot to me. Thanks so much!
Can you imagine this premise in real life? Like, imagine if you were around then and a Silver Surfer-esk type being to one of these Celestials. That was only the first firmament. I guess this is why Knull was so powerful. He came from a point where power was abundant and fresh. The things you'd know. The stories you could tell. Watching an entire galaxy just being exed out for simply being deemed unworthy. Is the First Firmament Zeno? Lol
This premise has been in real life since recorded history. This is just a spin on the creation story. Thus the first “firmament”. The angels that fell were often translated as celestial beings. The idea of the creations showing their offerings then God approving parallels Cain and Abel.
MmmNot really. The biblical creation story is one about God coming upon the face of the earth and there was darkness and you can look up the rest after he said let there be light. Scientific, is the big bang and the expansion of the universe. This comic story is about an entity that created the entire universe and the celestials. Those celestials created galaxies, not universes, and put on trial to be deemed worthy or unworthy of continued existence. After the separation of the group and the war that broke out, their universe Collapsed and birthed either ours or one of the universes that lead to ours. Galan(Galactus) is a being from the previous universe. It may have references of our creation story but it doesn't even follow it in a general way.
Dont bring dbs into this, their origin story is pretty dumb, this one is wayyy better. The first firmament, the first cosmos, the second cosmos, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and multiversal enternity , such an amazing story. Knull wasnt around during the first firmament , he was born between the 5th and 6th....
I wish you explain to everyone what the MCU is doing. Everyone is confused about the multiverse and branch timelines and demotions. You understand and I get it. I do see why everyone is not getting it. It’s just like comic books. It’s not that hard. But would love to hear you explain it to everyone !!!!!
Anything that marvel own, exists as a part of the character/concept [Eternity] There is older versions of the character [Eternity] The oldest is [the first firmament] Is basically the totality of this storyline, it's not that complicated
@@Spoopball yea I know that. But all I see all over UA-cam is. “ what’s going on with the MCU. I don’t understand. Timelines, multiverse, dimensions. The MCU is so confusing right now”. Hahahaha
The writers at marvel themselves dont even know the difference as they make a lot of mistakes. Why isnt gamorra taken by thw TVA? Why is the MCU confusing timelines, universes and dimensions? Stop pretending to bw smarter then everyone and just accept that the MCU went down hill. They should have kept it simple and sweet: Wanda breaks the multiverse, a bunch of shot happens, she has to put it back together, erasing different universes and creating one main timeline and universe with avangers AND MUTANTS. Also simply writw that kang was the one who split it all up to take over everything and voila , you got yourself tons of great movies....
was galactus part of the one true universe like the first firmament? i mean before the multiverse even existed. ive been wondering what the timeline of the existence of cosmic entities and beings following the one above all😊 thank you
Open question; anyone think that The Far Shore is where Disney implied Jane Foster went to after she died and turned into glitter? Cause it's likely she went wherever Odin went and I'd say HE went to The Far Shore... Maybe, idk
One more thing I wonder if the living tribunal and many other cosmic entities was around when the first firmament was around I don’t think it was because the first firmament was the first universe, and there was an old life until the first firmament deemed that life would be created I would say from the one above all, that’s the entity, that the first firmament with answer to
In marvel avanger beyond the writer say that the celestial created cal Horra (the lost one) and the lost one is the one who created the beyonder. But what I don't understand his why the og beyonder is afraid of the lost one since his not from the ivory kings race? I need some clarification
Unrelated but similar relating to the king in black being the opposite of the king in white if the beyonders got there power from that dude from avengers beyond who wanted his power back who got the power from the celestials are the beyonders actually from beyond?
Can you explain who the most powerful god in marvel as of now? Because in another video you said that the lost one might be the current strongest being, but like shouldnt the one above all be the most powerful being because he is supposed to represent the will of the writers of marvel. And yes Thanos did beat the one above all, but then again that wasnt canon, and there is no real confirmation that All above others and the one above all are the same thing. And I have also seen arguments that say true form darkseid is the most powerful.
Can we please get.... Grim Reaper(Eric Williams) explained Rob Jefferson explained videos please 🙏🏾(not giving up) .....Rob Corps I need your help like Lord Schnitzel
This was great! Rob this felt like classic you and I loved it my dude! This is why I started telling people why everyone should watch and listen to you! Felt like you had the backstory research and history for this!
I think Al Ewing and Jonahthan Hivkman should just write their own stories that exist in their own universes. I'm not a fan of drastic changes to established lore. These changes are not likely going to go back "the the status quo" as Rob often says.
@@SWOTHDRA not quite, they came into sort of maintain the universe after it's creation. I don't know much but they were really interesting and the designs were cool. I wish they would get covered a bit more.
Hey folks may be someone can explain something to me. Did the first firmament create Knull? Because what I remember is that Knull got the Nercosword from a Asprin whom fought a Celestial and they crashed on Knull's planet.
No. Knull was awaken long after the celestial war, when they were spreading out the universe, creating galaxies.the celestial only met him by chance when they were creating galaxies and in turn disturbed him from his long slumber when they created the first light in his domain of darkness.
Later he made the necrosword and had his first fight with a celestial, decapitated the head off a celestial. Later he was banished by fellow celestial.
Knull isnt even close to thia, even galactus is older the knull or around the same age , know was born after the 5th cosmos got desteoyed and right before eternity was born
What I read, the Celestials lost the war against the Aspirants. The Aspirants were the ones who built the Godkiller armor and almost wiped them out. They then stripped the armor and used it for their fleet. They effectively left the Celestials alone, as they were low in number. The Celestials regrouped. The Aspirants had an internal civil war, so the Celestials struck at them when they were at their weakest.
^This is what really happened!
Wait so does Rob just rabble off the dome from memory in these history videos? Wild if true.
This was coming from recorder android telling it to Tony Stark though and it was from billions of years ago. They simply might have gotten the details mixed up or the android was defective in some way. We never did see these events depicted or transpire until these comics to be fair. It's important to note that this information did not come from either of these factions, it was second hand at best, if not far more removed than that.
wait, so what was the reason or divide that split the Aspirants again?
You’re right in marvel database it said the same thing
“Oh boy, here I go retconning the Beyonders again!”
We love you Robb thanks for all your work
This is his wife's alt. Stop being lame
@@MikeSchwab-sk2xowait what???
Spot on
I appreciate that
Yeah I love these comic videos man.
A cosmic entity war could be so cool if done right.
True
But if it happens now it would be all about pro LGBT and woman would have never started the war....this was all the ego of the male
Would be weird
Death and TLT probably won't be involved
Oblivion Vs eternity?
Best part about these vids is rob is a ordinary guy and knows how to explain all this stuff in simple terms thanks rob
Bruh this isnt astrophysics lol.
I still go back and watch Rob's AMAZING video on the history of the Marvel Universe. It has the old format where Rob spoke a lot more softly and wasn't anywhere near as animated as he is now. I do much prefer the newer format for the most part, but that video will always be one of my faves. The score alone is a lot of fun. I think I'll go watch it right now, as a matter of fact.
I love stuff with cosmic entities..
I luv u
Very interesting stuff that helps provide insight for my own personal projects. Thanks Rob!
I’m loving this and your ghost rider comics!!! Great job Rob!!!
God, I love Marvel Cosmic. Thanks, Rob!
Character Explanation: Mammoth Mogul(Archie Sonic)
Character Explanation: Darth Krayt(Star Wars)
Great work as all ways brotha! This reminds me of your history or marvel which with all these changes in comics we definitely needed this !
I taught they changed it again. "The lost one" created the beyonders , and the celestials created the lost one.
Loving the new format, by the way. New editing style is slick.
This is probably one of my favorite videos about marvel comics ever to be made. It explains how the marvel universe started, from the VERY beginning. Bascially the Big Bang of the marvel universe. I’ve always wondered how the beyonders existed in the beyond verse, or why the celestials existed. Who created them? TOAA? This video is very entertaining and ties everything together
Sucks they didn’t continue Al Ewing’s Ultimates
Brother! You ARE NOT lying! That was my favorite book
Its was fantastic even with Captain Marvel in it.
Loved it. Such a bad move by Marvel, the true decline start of marvel. Al Ewing is a space epic master.
We need more of this please
Beyond Omega Level: Enerjak(Archie Sonic)
Beyond Omega Level: Emperor Palpatine(Star Wars Dark Empire)
So basically Blue Marvel is above The Beyonder/Beyonders. That’s crazy
lol, i dont think thats the case
@@juhis1620 defenders beyond had blue marvel killing the matter form of Beyonder and true form Phoenix killed god of story Loki, blue marvel and Beyonder
@@YordkarYordkar i dont think that Blue Marvel could be able to kill all cosmic entities across the multiverse or Living Tribunal
@@YordkarYordkar: That would be called an “M-Body”, which is a form used to allow mortals to comprehend them.
Basically, it’s not the real body. It’s a feat, but it ain’t nowhere near putting Blue Marvel at the Beyonder’s level.
@@fishnewt1331 it’s no different than hunter prey doomsday killing darkseid even we know from newer comics that was only a avatar. A matter form of Beyonder was shown and he was powerful and got defeated.
What Al Ewing is to Marvel’s space epics is Geoff Johns is to DC’s space epics. Marvel was so cheeks for cancelling Ultimates2 (drawn by Kenneth Rocafort). Such a good squad and perfect use of their intellect and powers. Eternity was in chains it was crazy.
What happenend to that story? Did they retcon that with the hulk stuff and that BS green door nonsense?
Nice work
Amazing video!
Another upload from the 🐐
This is the best story, marvel has ever done, having a sentient omniverse is amazing, who ever thought this up, needs an AWARD! Bring this to the big screen
Alot of hand wavy explanations here Rob 😮 a little iffy, actually alot
Rob you rock you've saved me time and helped me know so many comics!!
A part of that Ulimates run isn't canon according 2 the Ultimate Invasion event. Could be that Hickman might be taking the whole run as non-canon.
Just once I want Rob to say, "What's going on guys, this is Rob. Today we're going over and it's mediocre..."
Hey Rob hope all is well with you. Hope you can do a video on the news on Doctor Strange 3 news along with how it associates with Hickmans "Time Runs Out" story and the Black Priests. Along with how they're saying at the end of it that its gonna come down too Strange v Kang in Secret Wars to decide the multiverse and who you think wins that fight.
Unfortunately rob isn't really doing geek culture anymore outside of the comics themselves.
this should be the new standard
2:29 growth change morality, the next glitch mob album
This is awesome! I love the watching all things universal or multiversal power levels.
Beyond omega level: The Divine Creator
Hey rob, thank you .
First, also rob love your vids man keep it up 👍🏻
Really cool origin story.
ROB, please do paradise and universe X! Earth X was 5 years ago and you never finished them! Please buddy please!!!! Love the channel. Been subscribed for years!
He's never gonna finish that story. I think it's because he knows it is just the vocal minority that wants it. Most of us don't care, lol. I would definitely watch it if he did finish it, but I don't see it happening.
Hello Rob. Are you planning to cover the recent Avengers Beyond comics?
I love Marvel's cosmic stuff.
I'm here early today! Love it
Thanks Rob; at the point where I never look when the videos are from; I can just tell from your level of enthusiasm. I appreciate you helping me remember the stories of my childhood; but also I get to get into comics with my son now and it means a whole lot to me. Thanks so much!
Please. More of this. Like this.
I loved The Ultimates
It all makes sense now. Had some theories of my own, now they're squashed 😂😂
Can you imagine this premise in real life? Like, imagine if you were around then and a Silver Surfer-esk type being to one of these Celestials. That was only the first firmament. I guess this is why Knull was so powerful. He came from a point where power was abundant and fresh. The things you'd know. The stories you could tell. Watching an entire galaxy just being exed out for simply being deemed unworthy. Is the First Firmament Zeno? Lol
This premise has been in real life since recorded history. This is just a spin on the creation story. Thus the first “firmament”. The angels that fell were often translated as celestial beings. The idea of the creations showing their offerings then God approving parallels Cain and Abel.
MmmNot really. The biblical creation story is one about God coming upon the face of the earth and there was darkness and you can look up the rest after he said let there be light. Scientific, is the big bang and the expansion of the universe. This comic story is about an entity that created the entire universe and the celestials. Those celestials created galaxies, not universes, and put on trial to be deemed worthy or unworthy of continued existence. After the separation of the group and the war that broke out, their universe Collapsed and birthed either ours or one of the universes that lead to ours. Galan(Galactus) is a being from the previous universe. It may have references of our creation story but it doesn't even follow it in a general way.
Also, technically in marvel EVERYONE is right. Every religion has truth to it. They just happened to be cosmic entities, worshipped as a deity.
Dont bring dbs into this, their origin story is pretty dumb, this one is wayyy better. The first firmament, the first cosmos, the second cosmos, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and multiversal enternity , such an amazing story. Knull wasnt around during the first firmament , he was born between the 5th and 6th....
I wish you explain to everyone what the MCU is doing. Everyone is confused about the multiverse and branch timelines and demotions. You understand and I get it. I do see why everyone is not getting it. It’s just like comic books. It’s not that hard. But would love to hear you explain it to everyone !!!!!
Anything that marvel own, exists as a part of the character/concept [Eternity]
There is older versions of the character [Eternity]
The oldest is [the first firmament]
Is basically the totality of this storyline, it's not that complicated
@@Spoopball yea I know that. But all I see all over UA-cam is. “ what’s going on with the MCU. I don’t understand. Timelines, multiverse, dimensions. The MCU is so confusing right now”. Hahahaha
Sometimes it kinda seems like the MCU is just tryin to move on to their next big idea without doin a reset like the DCU does every 2-3movies 😅
The writers at marvel themselves dont even know the difference as they make a lot of mistakes. Why isnt gamorra taken by thw TVA? Why is the MCU confusing timelines, universes and dimensions? Stop pretending to bw smarter then everyone and just accept that the MCU went down hill. They should have kept it simple and sweet: Wanda breaks the multiverse, a bunch of shot happens, she has to put it back together, erasing different universes and creating one main timeline and universe with avangers AND MUTANTS. Also simply writw that kang was the one who split it all up to take over everything and voila , you got yourself tons of great movies....
Can you do a video on the ivory kings:Omegas, and the Onyx Kings: Kings in Black. Maybe speak about the white room, and the keter! Peace✊🏾
No 🧢 Rob we do appreciate ya man.
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The ranklong hierarchy of the Cosmic entities in Defenders Beyond was messy and done ao fast imo..
Hey Rob, can you explain:
Sonic the Hedgehog (Archie Comics)
@Comics explained Rob pleaseeeee make a video about Superman's alter ego (persona) the demolisher.
Dude. I was around when you started. Just came back and I gotta say. I love that u still have the same enthusiasm. Keep killing it man!
This is amazing 😊😊😊
I wish this kind of omniverse worldbuildings take place in Japanese manga, anime, and games.
@comicsexplained 6:57 did avengers beyond change this ?
Rob, respect...
How does the being that is hunting the Beyonders currently fit in?
Hey Rob hope all is well, the playlist this is associated with says “Mavel” comics multiverse. I don’t know if that’s a typo for Marvel!
was galactus part of the one true universe like the first firmament? i mean before the multiverse even existed. ive been wondering what the timeline of the existence of cosmic entities and beings following the one above all😊 thank you
Hey Robb , any advice for a new comic based UA-camr?
Can you run a story regarding the ufoes? Perhaps the conflict between them and the hulk.
Suddenly secret wars, avengers time runs out and battle world make alot more sense
Open question; anyone think that The Far Shore is where Disney implied Jane Foster went to after she died and turned into glitter? Cause it's likely she went wherever Odin went and I'd say HE went to The Far Shore... Maybe, idk
the cosmic side of marvel will always be my favourite!!
Best Marvel Female Characters Of All Time:
1.Jean Grey
2.Wanda Maximoff
3.Ororo Munroe
4.Betsy Braddock
5.Emma Frost
6.Sue Storm
Me and my son watch your videos to go to sleep he’s 2 and a fanatic for comics 😭
One more thing I wonder if the living tribunal and many other cosmic entities was around when the first firmament was around I don’t think it was because the first firmament was the first universe, and there was an old life until the first firmament deemed that life would be created I would say from the one above all, that’s the entity, that the first firmament with answer to
what the hell rob were your ears burning? i just re read this series at work this week and finished it today 😳
In marvel avanger beyond the writer say that the celestial created cal Horra (the lost one) and the lost one is the one who created the beyonder. But what I don't understand his why the og beyonder is afraid of the lost one since his not from the ivory kings race? I need some clarification
You and me both 😂
Congratulations Rob. Been rocking 10 years now
Unrelated but similar relating to the king in black being the opposite of the king in white if the beyonders got there power from that dude from avengers beyond who wanted his power back who got the power from the celestials are the beyonders actually from beyond?
So would Simon Furman's Primus & Unicron fit into the Celestial War?
Can you explain who the most powerful god in marvel as of now? Because in another video you said that the lost one might be the current strongest being, but like shouldnt the one above all be the most powerful being because he is supposed to represent the will of the writers of marvel. And yes Thanos did beat the one above all, but then again that wasnt canon, and there is no real confirmation that All above others and the one above all are the same thing. And I have also seen arguments that say true form darkseid is the most powerful.
Can we please get....
Grim Reaper(Eric Williams) explained
Rob Jefferson explained videos please 🙏🏾(not giving up)
.....Rob Corps I need your help like Lord Schnitzel
This was great! Rob this felt like classic you and I loved it my dude! This is why I started telling people why everyone should watch and listen to you! Felt like you had the backstory research and history for this!
I’ve gotten used to change, change is constant and healthy, but I pray this side of my life never changes, DS😭✅
So the 1st Firmament is Effectively Marvel's version of Perpetua
i only read x-men but right now there's a civil war on arakko, too. lol
1:20 What creature is that next to the aspirant?
I think Al Ewing and Jonahthan Hivkman should just write their own stories that exist in their own universes. I'm not a fan of drastic changes to established lore. These changes are not likely going to go back "the the status quo" as Rob often says.
How does the phalanx fall onto this as far as celetials go, can it kill a celestial?
"explaining the multiverse of marvel comics"
Explanation: It has some of the most useless cosmic entities that get slapped around every Tuesday.
I think the root word is Aspire. So it wouldnt be as-pir-ints. It would be As-Pyre-ants
But what about the being that claims the beyonders stole his power in Avengers beyond????
Day 61 of requesting humbly and respectfully east of west explained! 🎉🎉🎉🎉
So basically a comic book take on the idea of God and fallen angels?
Where do the Proemial Gods fit in all this as far as creation goes? I believe they each had their roles in maintaining the universe.
They come from thw 4th cosmos right? The one who invented magic
@@SWOTHDRA not quite, they came into sort of maintain the universe after it's creation. I don't know much but they were really interesting and the designs were cool. I wish they would get covered a bit more.
Hey folks may be someone can explain something to me.
Did the first firmament create Knull? Because what I remember is that Knull got the Nercosword from a Asprin whom fought a Celestial and they crashed on Knull's planet.
No. Knull was awaken long after the celestial war, when they were spreading out the universe, creating galaxies.the celestial only met him by chance when they were creating galaxies and in turn disturbed him from his long slumber when they created the first light in his domain of darkness.
Later he made the necrosword and had his first fight with a celestial, decapitated the head off a celestial. Later he was banished by fellow celestial.
Knull isnt even close to thia, even galactus is older the knull or around the same age , know was born after the 5th cosmos got desteoyed and right before eternity was born
It was Oblivion who created the First Firmament
How can the celestials create something stronger than them? Hence the “omegas”
*Was Knull Still Around When This Was Happenin?*
And Is There Any *Asprents* Left In The *616*
Aspirants*
Wait so is TOAA strongest or not?
Peace in our time
That's it. I give up completely on comics. Marvel have jumped the shark for the last last time.
Gardener....Collector?...Elders of the Universe not Celestials
plase make marvel secrat wars with first firmament
🕊
I wonder what female will be taken the place of the One Above SOME.
Cover all of power rangers it goes too hard not to have your narration over it