How To Build A Soundproof Drum Room
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- Опубліковано 8 тра 2024
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If you are a drummer and want to learn how to build a soundproof studio room for practice or remote recording then this video is for you.
0:00 - Intro
0:45 - Proof This Method Works
2:47 - Room Ratio Calculator
4:08 - Floor Design
4:39 - Wall Design
5:52 - Putty Pads
6:19 - Insulation
6:56 - Ceiling Design
8:08 - Door Design
10:40 - Drywall
13:05 - HVAC
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The reason why many people failed at soundproofing their studio is because they didn't have a lot of money including me.. This is definitely a high budget soundproofing idea.
Yes, I tell most of my students it's probably best to do no soundproofing rather than try half way. In the end you will waste money and time if you try to save too much money, but end up doing things incorrectly. Thanks for watching!
I was actually wondering what one should be budgeting for a soundproof drum room in a basement? These all seem like extremely costly options, plus if you can’t do it yourself you probably need a contractor to get the actual installations done 🤔
@halfmonster9013 it is indeed a high budget project. Good news is, if you're trying to soundproof a basement, the cost shouldn't be nearly as high as a new build project from the ground up. Now that brings me to the bad news, if you don't possess knowledge and/or tools that are required to complete the project, you will need to hire contractors and I can tell you first hand it is not cheap. Especially in todays world with inflation and everything being ridiculously overpriced, I'm 99.99% sure that the cost labor alone will be significantly more than the materials required to soundproof your basement.
@@soundproofyourstudio Thank you for saying this. It took me a few years to come to this conclusion, after spending a chunk of money at GIK. They and others like them will gladly take your money ( not angry :-). This week's decision is to just buy a ClearSonic sheild with the pads/baffles to lower the volume for practicing in the house. Thanks again..
Today I bought myself a $100 Gazebo / Pergola (200cm x 200cm) and placed it in my basement on a noise absorbing rug. I left the outside "walls" off and placed moving blankets on all five sides. Got myself a 10M led strip for the inside and some bass traps in the corners and foam on the inside off the blankets. Super easy set-up for recording with my D18 and singing at the same time straight into my iPhone using the Roland Go Pro mix. Call me cheap but I just love my little "tent" inside my basement. Nice and cozy. Love your channel man!!
Well that is pretty creative. If it works it works! Thanks for watching!
You know your stuff man thanks for all the great info
Glad to help
That is exactly what I need, thanks.
Happy it helped!
Well done!
Thanks!
Totally super exspensive process.
It certainly is not cheap;)
These are the best videos I've see yet on sound proofing!
I just bought a house that has a room in the basement that I want to make into a drum studio for playing and teaching. There are two partition walls and two outside walls. Odds are that no extra sound proofing principles were considered in the ceiling or two partition walls. Two of the walls are against the outside which are on concrete block and of course under ground.
I am counting on pulling off the ceiling drywall and redoing with RC, insulation? and new drywall (5/8" x2) Use MLV? Initial thoughts are to just use MLV and another layer of 5/8" drywall over the two existing partition walls, add a new solid core door with good sweeps and weather-stripping. If at that point it isn't quiet enough down there, I can decide on whether to add a second wall and airspace gap on the other side of the drum room (partition) walls.
I guess my initial concern is: In adding another layer of 5/8" drywall to the inside existing drywall (partition walls, 1/2"), would MLV and or RC be recommended over top the 1/2" drywall? Will that add sufficient mass to reduce sound transference?
As I wrote earlier, that second (doubled) wall and even a second door could be added later if more sound reduction is needed. My main concern is reducing as much as possible the sound through the ceiling. The entire basement is pretty much my domain anyway ;-) Thanks!
Hey JW Long! Thanks for watching and for the kind words. Here is what I would recommend. plan on gutting the room down to the studs. Build a second wall with at least a 1" airgap around the total room. Use a communicating door system with two solid core doors. Add two-three layers of 5/8" drywall under the floorboards of the level above you in the ceiling of your room. Then I would add another two layers of 5/8" drywall with green glue in the middle to your ceiling and attach them using 7/8" hat channels and IB-1 acoustic clips. You will also want to think about heating/cooling and ventilation. I think you have a great start with the basement and the walls being underground. Drums are loud so you don't want to skimp on the soundproofing. Hope this helps you think through your design.
@@soundproofyourstudio I assume you mean the "5/8" DW to the underside of the the floorboards" above attaching those directly to that subfloor between the joists? That IS more mass in there for sure
The HVAC is definitely in the ceiling as are six can lights that I might remove and replace with track lighting. I was hoping to get away with no re-DWing on two outside walls being below ground level🙄
Thanks so much for the ideas.
Thanks broo
Hey thanks so much for these videos. Really really helpful. For a drum room do you think a 1” air gap is enough. Is there a big benefit to going wider may 2” or 3” air gap? Secondly if it’s on a basement concrete slab. But there is a den/rec room also in the basement. Is it worth doing more to the floor so it doesn’t leak through the floor to the next room? Or is a concrete slab sufficient for drums?
So going wider would help, but usually people don't want to give up the floor space. You could look into doing what is known as an isolated slab, but I would imagine the extra cost and hassle might not be worth it.
You could add fiberglass insulation to try and decouple the floor, but I think it will be fine. Adding more space will help, but you give up room.
Hey Wilson thanks for the video! I am amazed by the sound reductuion at that back corner of the studio from outside, right behind the drum kit! However it's not so good as you mentioned at the other side. Would you say in your particular studio that the door is the weak point? Thanks!
By the way just trying to decide whether a wooden structure like yours except with communicating doors would be almost completely silent all around.
@@royglennie so yes the door is by far the weakest point. That is why I think communicating doors or even an airlock would be great. I think a wooden structure works well. You could also try brick or cinder blocks with sand in them as well.
Yes
Nice video - thx. Did you (or do you recommend) decoupling the floor in the same way as the ceiling? If not, how did you stop bass leakage from the wall structure touching concrete base?
You leave a small 1/4” gap where the drywall doesn’t touch the concrete and fill it with backer rod and acoustic caulk. Otherwise you can float your walls.
This is an amazing video. I’m currently contemplating turning my Metal
Shed 12x16 into a soundproof room or just making a whole new one from scratch. I may have missed it but about how much did it cost to make your shed? Even a rough estimate or round up would help a ton! Thanks again for the amazing video
I would give yourself a $50,000 budget overall. I have a budget calculator on my website at soundproofyourstudio.com/calculator that could help too
This is fantastic!
I'm insulation/sounding proofing a pole barn *a barn with a a frame and an outer metal shell*. We framed the inside and are spray foam insulating it and then drywalling on top of that. There will be an 2" to 3" air gap in between the spray foam insulation and the drywall. Unfortunately we can only afford one layer of sheetrock for now.
Any suggestions on how to seal up a garage door (as best as one can) for soundproofing and weathering?
Garage doors are a bit tricky because they are a weak point in the wall. Ideally you want to make the mass where the garage door is equal to the rest of the the walls. How you do that is up to you, but soundproofing is first based on mass and then transmission and airflow. If you can get that garage door removed and build a wall with similar mass that will be your best bet. Thanks for watching!
@@soundproofyourstudio Thanks for the response and advice. It seems we're going to spray foam the garage door as an existing wall and seal the edges and then frame and double the drywall over that.
@@1111Paiste Sounds good! Excited for the project
Yes please
Thanks for watching
@@soundproofyourstudio Any time
Wow! I too have a single door for my studio but it is not soundproofing as much as yours, especially when playing drums. I have a 4
inch-thick door with Rockwool installed in it. Could you please show/tell me more about weather stripping and magnetic stripping?
Thank you.
Hey so the key with the door is to make it super heavy hence the sheet lead. I have a video on soundproofing a door in the description notes, but you really just want to seal any airgaps around the door with weather stripping. The magnetic weather stripping then adds that final seal that really does make a difference.
@@WilsonHarwood Thank you so much. I did check the video and currently building another small storage room (just like you mentioned) so that it could get more isolated. Also, it is hard getting a Magnetic weather strip here in India :/ Any other alternatives?
@@anomalysounddesigns521 Well you could maybe create your own magnetic weather stripping. If you can get magnets I suppose you could use metal and magnets connected to a rubber seal to suction to your door. That is a tricky one, but it could work.
@@soundproofyourstudio Thank you :) That's a neat trick.
I want to build in an exciting bed room wall for sound not to come in from a noisy neighborh thank you in advance 🙏 I need help it's driving me mad and do I have to do the ceelin?
You can try just the wall but the ceiling may also need some work
A few questions. What about extender boxes for the outlet and for ceiling fans. My situation I have room in a house that I’m trying to sound proof for my drums. My goal is to be able to play and others in the house not be bothered.
Oh and what kinda flooring did you add on top of the concrete?
I’m not familiar with them
One of the very few good drum soundproof videos, my room is 25x10 and 8 feet tall. O got wood floors (on the third floor of the house in attic) and I got 2 windows on each side. Just spent $1400 bucks on acoustimac sound panels and it will only fill up half the room barely. I mainly need something like a good soundproof curtain for over the windows but cant find good ones any suggestions? Basically just so the sound is contained in my room without it shooting out my doorway or windows. Or should i forget the blankets since it will deaden the room a lot and leave me with too dry of a drum sound
There is a lot to unpack here. My first advice would be to learn about some basic room acoustics. The soundproof curtains are not that effective, but might be better than nothing. Also, I think there might be some confusion between soundproofing and acoustic treatment.
@@soundproofyourstudio yea ive done more research since I commented. Using acoustic panels for acoustic treatment and put double layered curtains over windows to absorb some noise, yea better than nothin lol my room is like an echo chamber but this is definitely better than before, also for recording music too. Thanks
I noticed you did not decouple the drywall from the wall studs. Would it help any/much if you did decouple the walls?
I have two walls with a one inch air gap. They are decoupled from each other
Thank you! Is it safe to install acoustic panels to your wall and not compromise the sound proof rating of your room but putting screws into your wall?
Yes, the screws won't cause problems. You can even use plywood as your first layer of "drywall" so you can easily hang guitars, panels or shelving.
@@soundproofyourstudio I soundproofed my detached garage in a similar way, and if I did it again I would have definitely used a layer of plywood or OSB behind the drywall. The amount of holes I have drilled in the drywall for mounting acoustic panels, camera and mic mounts etc, has ended up compromising the integrity of the walls. Also drywall is horrible for fixing to, so if you accidentally over tighten the screws you just end up with a gaping hole and a powdery mess.
I agree! The best way to do this is build the iso walls and ceiling and only put holes for electric and ventilation. Then build a new acoustic wall to hang stuff. It seems like more money but it saves you in the long run and is a much cleaner and better system.
Hey I have a question? How much did sound proofing your studio?
Not sure I understand the question
@@soundproofyourstudio how much did it cost you to sound proof your studio?
5/8" drywall is not the thickest drywall available on the market. 3/4" drywall is available in 8 and 12' lengths at your local Home Dpot or Lowe's. Just some info for you. :)
Sure! Good point
How does the ventilation system let air in and out but not sound?
It seems impossible right! The baffle box is truly incredible with just how much it reduces sound. When you add two layers of drywall and green glue around the baffle box you have a really soundproof wall.
So what can be done to reduce noise at a more reasonable price?
To be honest there is not too many options that work. I will make a youtube video on options that are cheaper.
Thanks for making this vid. So you've got 2 layers of drywall on the decoupled inside walls and ceiling, but what kind of mass do you have on the OUTSIDE walls and roof/ceiling? Is it just basic ply+weatherboard and regular old roofing iron, or did you add extra mass there?
Solid results given I didn't notice you adding any extra beef to the outside walls! Just checking before I get started on my garage in case I missed something. Cheers!
His building is made of cinder blocks I believe.
Yeah I could have added more to the outside, but really didn’t need to. OSB sheathing and hardyboard adds a lot of mass. The roof could probably have been done differently, but it still works great.
is this also block sound from the outside?
It sure does!
What would be an estimate that all of this costed you??
Thousands of dollars. Good to look at large budgets not under 10k.
What is blinking?
Thanks for watching
what is the price of this entire build
43k
dear god. that's a lot on the too expensive side.
@@lordbanhmi3389 Unless you're studio is making you money, then it's a good investment.
What about just using a lot of blankets?
A lot of blankets will help with deadening the room which could be good or bad. If you deaden the room too much it might feel lifeless in the recording. Blankets will not help with soundproofing because they do not make a room airtight, don't have much mass, and won't decouple the sound from the inside and outside walls. Thanks for watching!
WHAT IS THE COST BREAKDOWN?
I have a budget calculator: www.soundproofyourstudio.com/calculator
3:01 serial killer vibes. I think someone like the fbi should investigate into his soundproof “drum” rooms
Watching wayyy tooo much Dexter!
i love the video but I'm sorry i must ask; do you ever blink 😜
I guess not
For me is the best explain video but the price of all this 😢
Sorry for that
still don't know what to believe about the green glue, some say it works, some say it is nonsense.
Yes, I wouldn't lose sleep over it. If you have the budget use it. If you have the space add drywall. The real key to soundproofing is the mass, decoupling and airtight assemblies. I look at damping as an added bonus. MLV can add mass if you use 2lb mlv and save you some space, but it is more expensive than drywall.
Lex Luthor of Drumming
Thanks for watching
How to soundproof your drum room. First, build another house
Funny
Please blink!
Haha
Thats a brick shithouse for sure sick build.
Thanks
yeah thats too expensive a build
Yes it takes some resources to do it right
how do you breathe
Ventilation