Sound Proofing My Drum Studio With Acoustic Blankets From Vocal Booth To Go
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2017
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For anyone thinking that it looks like there's not a ton of change, decibels are logarithmic. 60dB is "half as loud" as 70dB.
buddyhimself This comment needs to get pinned. I dont think most people know this.
I think it’s actually a double in perceived volume every 6 decibels
Isn't it TENfold increase, not double? Its logarithmic but I think its tenfold, which is why its called 'deci'-bel. Just clearing up confusion either for myself or someone else
Sean H No, technically the sound pressure is doubled at 6dB, but despite that, people tend to feel it's doubled at around 10dB. As you pointed out, the deci in decibel refers to it being a tenth of a bel, but we basically use them just to be more accurate.
buddyhimself wrong
lol the outdoor test was just an excuse to show off your gnarly mower xD
GoontieLips
Who was riding it?
@@ichangedmyname0001 Dave was
Hawkes Drums
Who's Dave?
@@ichangedmyname0001 the guy making the videos lol, rdavidr
If Dave rides the mower, then he won't need to block it's sound out...(".)
You changed your shirt like 20 times and then you end the video with a new hair style
Tings take tiem
took david 302 years to put the blankets so he had to get a haircut
🤣
Wata legend
32 years ago I started playing drums. My parents recommended I have a sound proof room. They said play louder and play more. 32 later I get to play all over the world. Thanks Mom n Dad
Crazy Whop
Who do you play for ?
And how did you sound proof your room ?
RexyFan I started with carpet on the floor, walls and ceiling. Then thick mattress pads over all the carpet. Then the sound proofing foam above all cymbals and where your bass drum projects. Seal the door and pow. Busy ya 150 bucks. Currently I’m playing for a band called Authority Zero. Did a few albums fir them and occasionally sit in on touring. I do mostly session work in the studio for advertising and some artists. I’m independent and control my pay and my own managing. Been getting paid to play since before my legal drinking age. Good kuck
Crazy Whop
That’s awesome.
Sounds like you love what you do.
And thanks for the soundproofing tips.
Cheers.
RexyFan Your Welcome. I do get to play drums for a living and yes I LOVE what I do. My kids think it’s awesome to yell the kids at school that dad is a pro drummer. Lol. Work hard play has much has you can publicly and at some point your going to be noticed. Now be patient with yourself. Most importantly.... have fun and play from your soul my friend.
Acoustic Foams are used for Echo & Acoustic Curtains are used for Soundproofing SoundProof-Curtains.me
I feel like if anyone else posted a 15 minute video of themself hanging blankets it'd be the most boring video on youtube but for some reason when david does it its entertaining as hell
I was watching him hang blankets and thinking "Why on earth am I watching some bearded guy hang blankets in his basement?"
darkasthegrave dawg
Not gonna lie. The part with the trim was super satisfying. The quick edit with the sound of the nail drum going off? So relaxing.
I consider watching some furry-armed, bearded guy fill his walls with screw holes to be a good evening's entertainment.
Brandon Quod
🤣
Great video man. Soundproofing is just a nightmare... there is no easy solution. When I did my new studio build earlier this year, I used 5/8 drywall, insulation, AND mass loaded vinyl and it still isn’t as isolated as I want. After reading Rod Gervais’s book on home studio building, I think I’m gonna try a full on double wall construction next time, or at least some resilient channels and multiple layers of drywall w/ green glue. Or, just move to the middle of nowhere with no neighbors so I can be a reclusive drumming hermit for the rest of my days... which I’m totally okay with actually lol
Hey Austin, what are you doing for air flow?
Darryl Watkins I just have a portable a/c in the corner that is vented out through the ceiling. I have to open the door when I turn it on or it will create negative air pressure in the room so that kinda sucks. Next time I’m probably just gonna do a mini-split system when I can build something more permanent.
yeah man its a bitch haha. If I was rich I would go all out on sound proofing, but im not, so I cant lol. Also, idk what insulation you used, but roxul does a hell of a job blocking sound. I used is in my guitar booth at the old spot and man does that stuff work well
rdavidr I had done a lot of research on Roxul vs R-13 and from the sources that seemed the most knowledgeable to me, they all recommended to just go with standard R-13 as it is cheaper and the performance of Roxul doesn’t justify the price difference with regards to soundproofing. So that’s what I did but I dunno, Roxul may work better. I think the most effective components are the decoupling and layering dampened drywall more than the type of insulation but that stuff requires a lot more money and know-how to pull off. One day I’ll figure it all out but so far, it’s been a headache of mistakes and lessons haha.
Even those expensive builds with double drywall and mlv and furrowed channeling and floated floors etc don't do much better, if at all, than these results. Maybe it's time for room in a room in a room lol.
Because of this video I bought a bunch of these blankets to cover the large windows in my drum room. Not only do they help reduce sound, they block a ton of heat that was blasting through those windows in the late afternoon (a benefit I hadn't considered). Two of the windows are west-facing, and I'm in Phoenix. Afternoon sun in the summer is no joke. Anyway, thanks for the video!
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im in phoenix too i was concerned about the blankets making things hotter but if not then i fs need these!
@@ismael6365 they actually help keep it a bit cooler in here. It's like extra insulation on top of a little sound absorption.
A very considerate neighbor, we need more people like you!
can we just take a second to appreciate how much effort went into video editing the nail gun scene?
Very cool, I also have these blankets. They had a strong chemical smell, so I went to the trouble of machine washing and drying them... which I believe, also made them puffier and more effective. Thanks for all your vids!
Dude. You just gave me the solution I needed.
Thanks a lot for sharing
Love your scientific approach to measuring results. Well done.
Also...as a drummer allow me to give a word of advice to drummers who want to bash on 'em but don't want to bother the neighbors (or even others in the house). The answer? Build a box! Use 2 x 8 studs to build sides and roof. Fill those studs with sound deadening insulation of your choice. Cover the outside with some kind of sound proofing material. Double layers of plywood with mass vinyl sheet in between the layers works well. Cover the inside with plywood. Paint plywood for appearance if desired. Be sure to make a door wide enough for you to get in and to get drums through. One caution. This will be VERY tight so it will get hot inside. Using a fan helps. But I built a box with a friend and we put a tiny conduit through the bottom of one wall for electrical cord and ran a small portable a/c unit inside. It kept his little booth nice and cool. His wife could happily watch TV, talk on the phone, etc while he bashed away in the basement and you could barely hear the slightest sound if the upstairs was completely silent. Worked great.
@bookmarkthis Actually, the first one of these I built was for a friend who has band practice in a basement/rec room. We built the drum box/booth with a large enough conduit that we could run mic cables through. Then we miked the drums into a mixer. The other musicians then either used mics (vocals) or ran direct (guitarist and bassist used modelers...keyboard ran direct). Sounded great and the band could wail away without disturbing the rest of the house. I stood upstairs while they practiced and couldn't hear anything. In the room you could very faintly hear the drums and you could hear the vocalists. This setup also had the added advantage of allowing them to have a pretty decent recording studio. They actually produced an entire CD from recordings they made in the basement using computer based recording gear. For recording, they switched up and recorded drums in the room while isolating vocals in the booth for scratch tracks. Came out sounding great.
How much would something like that cost? I’m moving but I plan on going to school for drums and I have to wait a year to go back to school and I’m absolutely sick of playing on my electronic drums and still need a practice space. Need a cost effective way of not annoying my parents.
@@zacharykilburn7288 Well, I would say you have two options. You can build a booth like I'm describing. The cost in materials was around $500. Or you could buy Superior Drummer 3 and trigger it from your existing e-drum kit. Tweak it just a bit and you have killer sounds with a response very much like acoustic drums.
MeTuLHeD my main issue with e drums isn’t the sound but the feel, I use superior drummer already. 500 would be do able, I was looking at investing in one of those drum booth closed container things and those are like 2000, do you have audio or a video of these things in working?
@@zacharykilburn7288 "Do you have audio or a video of these things in working?"
Well, the last time I built one was about six years ago in North Carolina. I now live in Virginia and have my recording studio in my basement, so I don't use an iso booth for drums. But I could probably e-mail my buddy Jay and have him shoot you a couple of pictures of it. In the meantime, here's a video made by a guy who build something similar...but not quite the same.
ua-cam.com/video/JLa2pV4c7YU/v-deo.html
Wow. That kit sounds so much tighter and the snare is very well defined after adding the sound treatment. It's amazing what just treating your room alone can vastly improve a recording.
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Your video was super helpful to me! I soundproofed using this and it changed my drum sound quality completely😊
Man the improvement in the kick drum sound alone made that work worthy, great job!
That room next to studio sound sounded absolutely awesome without any treatment. Really kickass room mic sound.
Nick Kapp totally agreed. But not every track needs that huge room sound. Some tracks are extremely dry and tight which is nice at times
Would this sound treatment prevent screams from being heard outside? Asking for a friend.
Asking the real question here.
Straight up bro. Hoping we get a response soon.
No it would help just a little bit remember these things are sounds absorption not sound proof you need a whole booth for that I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t want sounds coming in just record at night that’s what I do
It does, believe me;)
@@alien-hs1zn no this is sound proofing dumbass
Thanks for this, David. I like that these blankets are portable, don't seem too difficult to mount, and actually treat the room pretty well - I noticed how live the room was at the beginning of the room and I could instantly hear the difference as soon as you talked into the mic after putting up the blankets.
They're certainly not as effective as building a room within a room, but they seem to be good enough™. And some additional work on the doors, windows, and electrical openings would go a long way toward providing further isolation.
At some point in my life I'm planning on having my own home studio, so I'll definitely be coming back to this video.
Job well done..I enjoyed the track & your groove on the drums was nice to..
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Also, first one to count how many times I changed shirts gets a free sticker.
rdavidr
I didn't count cause im too lazy, so ima go with 11 times
It is 11, I counted, I guess I get it because you said first one who counts lol
7 If you're talking about different shirts.
rdavidr 5x
9 shirts
they see me mowin, they hatin
Room acoustics was a great demonstration, Very effective. I'm impressed for sure.
Very great video! Thanks for sharing your experience and tips.
If you put a solid core door in, sealed all the cracks, and put a blanket in front of it...wonder what the numbers would be. And man, those blankets REALLY tightened up the room sound. Good job.
Acoustic Foams are used for Echo & Acoustic Curtains are used for Soundproofing SoundProof-Curtains.me
don't have to be completely solid core (I reckon it'd be very hard to procure too!), you can fill the gap between panels using rockwool
You can buy a roll of peel and stick velcro-that would be perfect for the seams!
Wow! Great sounding room! Great sounding drum kit. Great playing. Great video. :D
Thanks for posing. ^_^
Great video !!
At 2:30
Watching you casually lower that Skil saw to your side reminded me of when I was in my early 20s.
I was working on a job with a guy, and he was talking about “the game“ last night.
After he finished a cut he lowered the saw to his side, chopping into his leg.
Didn’t kill him, didn’t ruin him for life, definitely taught us all to respect that spinning blade.
if you want to remove the low end spill to outside isolate the drum kit from the floor. You could do this by putting rubber blocks down and putting a raised floor on top of it. It would make a massive improvement to the spill outside of the house/room.
LEDs under the trim would look good.
I know this comment is two years old already, but that's a brilliant idea that I never would have thought of. I'm planning the treatment of my basement and was thinking about hanging blankets like this, now I definitely want to mount the trim like half an inch lower and put LED strips around the room.
Nice Modern Builds t-shirt! Great video as always dude!
Keep up the good work dude. I support everything you do.
my drumming teacher put tarp in the windows and put gip-rock over it and is sounds good
I randomly stumbled on this and I'm happy I did.
You made a really mundane process seem so insightful and fun to watch, defo a sub from me!
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Excellent information, and you did a very professional job of installing the blankets. The testing for the results of your work was done very well. Thanks for sharing.
Gary Faul I’m sorry, man but I feel really bad for my thoughts that are going through my head. I seriously wanna tear up because your so motivated and enthusiastic. You shouldn’t let anyone get in your way. Butttttttt this is 90% leaning towards beibg extremely mediocre and it’s so awkward to watch. Ahugggg. •too serious• saying..(I want to give a big thanks to such and so, a few times as if it’s that professional of a post.•^felt pads. • lawnmowers not being edited out.•wasting 90 nails, putting all those holes close together witch my guess would tenderize the surface of the drywall that’s underneath the 2x4. • the t shirt change in the middle of a sentence, without interrupting the sentence. I Just see your shirt, poof.. red all of a sudden.•what I read, lack of the actual knowledge of what your going for. •and your not bad at the drums,I’m serious. But like I thought earlier, it just didn’t fit for the professionalism that your trying to overkill it with
This video is amazing I love the craftsmanship in your work. I’m the same way that Seam would have driven me nuts as well. I’m in the process of sound dampening I just started with the door and sweat her stripping. The door is hollow so I drilled a 1/4 hole and filled it with great stuff expanding foam spray. That alone has already made a big difference
I have 3 layers of these in a very tight, crowded residential area. Almost 5 years of playing drums (between 11-7) and zero complaints.
am or pm?
Did you leave space in between the layers? I'm looking to do the same but I'm not sure how best to hang them all around my room.
@@richardpine8011 i believe the best way is the way it was done in the vid. the manufacturer even instructed it to be done like this.
@@richardpine8011 they said 3" space.
@@sticksbass Any space will work if space is limited, but ideally 2.5" to 3", yes. It's not so much that air is acting as an insulator, it's also that there is no direct contact between layers to prevent vibration from being transmitted as well.
I did a project like this and I swear, my neighbors probably thought I was building a grow room! 😆
How’s the grow room going?
Love the trim! Makes it look professional
This is one of the best vids on UA-cam . I'm going to check out the blankets . Good job
I put these in my drum space, using aircraft wire, eyebolts at each end of the wall and 3" hooks in between for support. I attached the blankets with binder clips. Unfortunately, my space is on the second floor over the garage and I haven't acoustically treated the floor. But fortunately, my neighbors either A; can't hear me inside their house B: enjoy the drums or C: just don't care. 2 years of playing every day for a couple of hours and no complaints yet! I try to respect an 8-9 PM cutoff time, but have been known to do a 10 minute solo at 1:30 AM ;D
Zac Drake hell yeah
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OMG it's Hagrid!! you look so much younger! when did you start playing drums?
Love the jams as always! Also glad your back!! Paint that tom please!
The absolute very best video and information on the subject thanks dude. I have full confidence in the product and also that it works. TOP VIDEO BRO!!!
Why don't you put like those rubber water proofing rims on the door? Works wonders for sound leak
TheZooNinjaS heja bvb
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You should put all the drums and cymbals you've made into one kit
Alex Likes To Drum there's this music room in my school with two kits i combined played some fucking double base and shit it was awesome. Plus the 6 toms.
Theo what that's so cool. My school only has a kit like davids (rdavidr)
Wow, man... That’s so hard work! You very cool guy :)
dude, you are my inspiration for do my things right.
thanks for all your videos.
atte jose M. from puebla, MÉXICO
Can u say :“ u a wizard harry”
Wrong channel
3:55 - Can you get a hinge and put it on the 2x4? That way you can open the door.
He wanted to block of that door anyway. That door just interfered with his recording computer setup
Love the hip hop instrumentals used while hanging the blankets
Thank you for the extremely thorough review.
wow reverb totally gone, drums sound sick
To get a big room round you should open a door and mic a corridor
might have to try that!
Room next door would have been SICK for this before the treatment haha
I did it with my stair case, honestly sounded like a huge room, had to move the audio back because there was loads of pre delay!
Got a few of these blankets to keep out neighbor noise, about to put them up, VocalBooth To Go assured me it would help with that. Thank you for making this video and introducing me to these things
Love the room sound!
cool! i actually like the bigger sounding drums without treatment more
Because rooms are essential to a drum's atmosphere, he kind of made his drums sound dead and that's the honest truth, the cymbals still shimmer at least.
Even if it's a basement with brick walls(my situation) the room will effect/color the sound in a certain way, sometimes awesome but sometimes horribly! It's good to experiment and always wear hearing protection!
I don't think he necessarily did it for drum sound. I think it was more for isolating his sound from anyone else. Also, if he does studio mixing, it is essential for him to only hear what is coming from the speakers and not what is bouncing off of the walls.
If you have to have it one way or the other, you shouldn't make your drum room and monitoring room the same room. And come on! He's a drummer! Shouldn't care if people think it's loud. XD
Snares, blankets only reduce the mids and highs. Makes it sound muddy. . Lows are the problem. Must use thick mass, like Owens Corning 703, 8” inch thick panels for full frequency absorption.
I think you made more noise with all the construction than you ever would have with the drums...lol
Connor King no fucking way
Green with envy! Awesome video.
Thanks! I bought these and they are of the highest quality. And yes they are heavy. I highly recommend them.
Three Harbor Freight blankets doubled up with screws and washers: $15.00
Joshua Jesse , You read my mind! I’m going to sound treat a room. Seems like one of the most economical options. Cheers mate 👍
Well, yes and no. The materials in the blankets are thinker and geared towards sound dissipation, but a lot of the trick is creating a gap of air between two surfaces to defeat the travel of sound. Also, these blankets are 6x8. Not sure that packing blankets are that long. They have to cover floor to ceiling.
So packing blankets will work, but not as well.
Not even in the same ballpark
look at his shirt at 1:25 and onwards😂
Thanks very much ! You did an awesome job !!! Very very helpful ... Thanks !
Bro you make the dopest videos! Super creative!
The traffic you hear in front of the house is the paparazzi driving past trying to snap a picture of rdavidr doing something scandalous!
His neighbor is like stop using those damn power tools
I use the same blanket in my booth makes a huge difference. Great product
lovely attention to detail
Me: plays with window open neighbors on 3 sides 😬
You'll likely regret being an inconsiderate dick if the right person moves in next door... #TuneUp
@@siriusfun just play louder lmao
@@siriusfun nah you just be more of a dick
rdavidr. I challenge you to build (bum ba da bum) a FOUR inch diameter tom.
Tyler Bailey this should be interesting
I challenge you to hit a four inch diameter tom while playing fast
This was a great help to a fellow drummer. The part where you described the air gap inspired me to to try it with moving blankets. WORKS GREAT!! Thanks fam! Yo!!! That beat at 8:40!!!
First thing, this man has some skills that I don't have and probably never will, I'm not good with tools. However, there is a lot for me to work with here. I love the blankets. I have a similar basement setup and I believe the blankets will help me achieve what I'm trying to do.
I miss the long hair tbh
Hagrid?
Sick beats in the background, music I grew up with
Thanks for this video! I'm currently designing a studio of my own to go at the top of the garden, which for me, joins on to the woods. My main reason for soundproofing will be for outside noise
Back in the early 90's I had a cop roll up and park on the wrong side of the street in front of my house one day and wondered what his malfunction was so I went out to ask him. I had nothing to fear, so why not ? Turned out, he had a handheld DB meter that he was hanging outside of his drivers side window to see if I was within the parameters set by our lead city code enforcement officer for anybody playing any type of music from their home. As I walked up to this guys squad car I asked him if we were all good and he said " Yep, just making sure ". It was then that I told Sir Dumbass that I too owned a handheld DB meter and as a guitarist who practiced daily, had originally purchased it so my wife could take it around the perimeter of our home to see how loud I could go without violating our city sound ordinance so in all actuality I was one step ahead of him. Feeling like a doofus he just simply said with a smile and a wave as he drove off " Okay, have a nice day ". Idiot's, I'll tell you what.
@bookmarkthis It's called respect for law enforcement.
Dude, what is up with your hair?
watching this after an stressful day of school, i love this
everytime I hear el condor I get so excited; its a classic
Great vid... Looking forward for new vids on the new space!
Great video man!!!! This has massively helped
I’ll be ordering some of these! Thanks for the info.
Really appreciate this video. Moving somewhere soon where I'm a little worried about the sound I might give off, and had been looking for solutions. Having the decibels and recordings as well as the entire process to putting things up is incredibly helpful! Thank you!
That is genius!
Great job on the studio rework man
Great music tracks mate. Good job!!
Cool video ! Your kit sounds really good, well mic'd :D
I built an entire room within a room in my garages third space. I built 2x6 width walls with staggered stud design. Caulked the seams with silicone prior to finishing the drywall. I also added a layer of shiplap and totally covered the ceiling with 2x12x12 foam. I have blocks of the foam on the walls to tame the echo. I effectively have three walls between my drums and the neighbors exterior wall (which has their bedrooms) and I can play at all hours. Drums can still be heard inside my house, but my wife can watch TV and be okay while I'm playing. Nice job and cool vid!
Very Thorough as Usual. Killer Beard duderino.
They will come with you too if you have to move again. Great. So satisfied about this.
Perfect!!!
Damn!!!! Its still loud enough to hear!
You are thorough if not anything my friend and we appreciate all your hard work. Also it is my opinion that your drumming has improved quite a bit in the last 9 months. You're still a Sabian guy and I'm still a Zildjian guy but that doesn't mean we can't be buddies later and thanks for the awesome video
bro David i really like your hair right now. great video as well, man!
I was going to comment that it would make the room way too dark for me, but I see on their website that they're reversible with one white side. Good stuff. Great video. Thanks man!
Putting up sheet rock layers and making a plug for the windows will help the most with sound transmission.
Using a well sealed solid core door would help as well.
Putting the drums on a floating floor would assist with the low frequency - as well as gobos close to the kit.
Neighbors complain about the low frequency - but call it loud - contain the lows and neighbors sudden become more friendly.
Excellent!
This might be 5 years old, but your video has been the BEST video I have found on how well panels like this work. And how to install them
Same
We have the same exact dryer. Neat