I found lifting the lever back up, pulling the pressure gauge out and putting it back in, then lowering the plunger one more time will eek out that last bit of liquid that is stuck in the chamber. Gives you a totally clean puck
@@arthurerby2466 No, what I do is make my shot and then I purge the rest of the water into a purge cup with the method mentioned above. Except now I found out all I have to do is have the lever all the way up for a few seconds because there's enough of a gap to let the remaining water settle
Looks like 10 bars because of the angle. Was actually at 9 bars. More recently I have been pulling shots at about 8 bars and getting 35 grams closer to 25 sec.
I really like the Flair 58. I think the espresso is as good or better than many of the machines I have owned (Astra Gourmet, LM GS3, Londinium L1). I currently have a Salvatore semi auto at my main home, and use the Flair at our weekend home. When I retire (soon), I may sell the Salvatore and use the Flair exclusively. I also love that it is low maintenance!
@@johnrbh Thanks for your info. Have you tried pulling shots without inserting the top screen? Based on video I see it can get a little messy when trying to separate it from a hot puck...or maybe you found a way around it?
No, I always use the top screen. I have been playing around with a paper filter at the bottom of the portafilter with very nice results. You get a bit more flavor, and need to grind finer. There have been a few UA-cam vids about this.
@@MAYKELW0LF very fine using my monolith. I do not use the stock “high flow basket” which is what they supplied my 58 when it first came out. I used a low flow basket. I think they typically supply a low flow and high flow basket. I typically used 19g in, 35 out
Wow! Let’s see, I have 2 Salvatore semi auto and a Londinium L1. Before these I had a GS3. The Flair 58 is making comparable espresso!. Of course, my grinder is a Monolith…what grinder do you use??
I found lifting the lever back up, pulling the pressure gauge out and putting it back in, then lowering the plunger one more time will eek out that last bit of liquid that is stuck in the chamber. Gives you a totally clean puck
So you try and extract more espresso with as much pressure as you can force productively killing a good shot
@@arthurerby2466 No, what I do is make my shot and then I purge the rest of the water into a purge cup with the method mentioned above. Except now I found out all I have to do is have the lever all the way up for a few seconds because there's enough of a gap to let the remaining water settle
@@arthurerby2466 this is such a high octane response that really assumes the worst for no reason lol
Fellow Sconnie espresso enthusiast coming to say nice set-up!
Another coffee contraption that I'd like to have 😀
Definitely worth getting!
Is there a reason to not put less liquid? That is if you are consistently flushing liquid out every time after you extract
I suppose it could be done, but the machine was designed to be used this way.
Love it but I steam my milk. What do you flair 58 folks do for lattes and cappuccinos?
Lots of options
The Breville Milk Cafe is an excellent option for latte art foam. It heats and froths.
What scale is that?? I can't find a scale that fits my Flair 58
Acaia Lunar. Not cheap, but highly recommend!
@@johnrbh damn no kidding, that's a car payment
Get a cheaper car!
Where did you get the scale with timer? Link?
prima-coffee.com/equipment/acaia/lunar-scale?msclkid=ff0baf9f028f12977653ce8738df2d22&Search%20-%20Top%20Products%20-%20US&Bacaia%20%2Bscale&Acaia%20Lunar
Things $250
oh man... i need to save up for this.
but i think its better to use paper filter than that metal screen.
Have not tried paper filter…the metal works great!
@@johnrbh yeah hard part is that we need to cut the 6mm from aeropress filter. to make it 58mm
@@rehannoor2090 why do you think it would be better to use paper? I've had such good results with the metal disk.
@@johnrbh ohh i mean, more convenience workflow
@@rehannoor2090 why would it be more convenient?
Wow, the pressure decrease like a machine setting. You have master-craft hand💯
Thank you!
結局、蒸らしはいるの?
feels like too fine with almost 10 bars 37 seconds, I would suggest grind just a bit coarser
Looks like 10 bars because of the angle. Was actually at 9 bars. More recently I have been pulling shots at about 8 bars and getting 35 grams closer to 25 sec.
I like that NATO watch strap!
Also great looking pull!
Thanks, definitely a NATO fan!
I wonder, do you use Flair Royal Grinder? At what setting is that grind?
No I don’t. Use Monolith conical.
how nice of your shot... nice... i hope to make shot like yours
Get a low flow basket if you are not using one!
@@johnrbh i think that i missed that i have original basket(maybe 16-19IMS) and 22vst, 22ims h
@@플레어58쓰는산이슬님 Yes, lots of good options
From 18gr of beans im getting always 50-55gr of coffee, why😅?
In how much time? May need to grind finer, or use a low flow basket
Hey, Robert. Are you able to remove the water reservoir to weight liquid going in?
I just fill the reservoir to the top, pull my shot to the desired weight, usually 35g
Scale is very cost
Did worth it
Iam confused between lunar and tiny2s
Because diffrent of price
Need your advise
The scale is excellent quality and will last a long time. I have owned mine many years and no problem. I’m my opinion it is worth the money.
Hey Robert, is the machine serving you well? Are you happy overall? Would appreciate update after 2y of using it.
I really like the Flair 58. I think the espresso is as good or better than many of the machines I have owned (Astra Gourmet, LM GS3, Londinium L1). I currently have a Salvatore semi auto at my main home, and use the Flair at our weekend home. When I retire (soon), I may sell the Salvatore and use the Flair exclusively. I also love that it is low maintenance!
@@johnrbh Thanks for your info. Have you tried pulling shots without inserting the top screen? Based on video I see it can get a little messy when trying to separate it from a hot puck...or maybe you found a way around it?
No, I always use the top screen. I have been playing around with a paper filter at the bottom of the portafilter with very nice results. You get a bit more flavor, and need to grind finer. There have been a few UA-cam vids about this.
What basket did you use?
It’s a Londinium basket, low flow. Most low flow baskets work fine.
Nice Swedish tray ;)
I’m almost all Swedish! Bit of Norwegian.
what brand and model scale your user ?
clivecoffee.com/products/acaia-lunar-scale
Nice Breitling watch!
Aerospace! Need to do another vid…will wear my Pepsi!
🇸🇪❤️🎻
Lovely 👍
Thanks. I’m always amazed at the espresso that comes out of the 58!
why not just add more coffee for a larger shot? then dont worry about that bit of water you could use the entire water...
Doesn’t quite work that way!
@@johnrbh what is the point of having too much water on purpose? Why not use less water?
@@thepatternforms859 have you tried the Flair 58?
@@johnrbh no im thinking about buying one..
I highly recommend getting the Flair 58. Just make sure you have a very good grinder!
hi is it 15g in?
I typically do 19g in, 35 out
@@johnrbh oh alright, thank you.
@@johnrbh how fine do you grind? Are you using the stock basket?
@@MAYKELW0LF very fine using my monolith. I do not use the stock “high flow basket” which is what they supplied my 58 when it first came out. I used a low flow basket. I think they typically supply a low flow and high flow basket. I typically used 19g in, 35 out
n thats how MANLY i want my shot in the morning, inject that MANLINESS into my veins
200 degrees? Water boils at 100 no?
200F
you lose a lot of temperature when you pour boiling water into the system - i think needs to warm it all before
That’s why the Flair 58 has a built in heater!
how’s taste
Very good! I am impressed with the quality of the espresso. But you need a good grinder
@@johnrbh what grinder you got?
www.kafatek.com/index.php/monolith/
@@johnrbh interesting!
prima-coffee.com/equipment/acaia/lunar-scale?msclkid=b98703b17548198d0889634cef8760d8&Search%20-%20Top%20Products%20-%20US&Bacaia%20%2Blunar%20%2Bscale&Acaia%20Lunar
Piece of junk. Buy a real home espresso machine.
Wow! Let’s see, I have 2 Salvatore semi auto and a Londinium L1. Before these I had a GS3. The Flair 58 is making comparable espresso!. Of course, my grinder is a Monolith…what grinder do you use??