How to Tape Drywall Seams
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- Опубліковано 7 гру 2009
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In the video above, Fine Homebuilding contributor Myron Ferguson demonstrates how to tape drywall seams in this episode of "Build Like a Pro."
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I have been in the renovation business over 25 years and I have had my share of drywall work. I think this is a very well done video that shows the average DIY'er how to tape a seam. It's funny how people who criticize others, never have any video's showing their work. If they know so much, why do they waste their time looking at DIY video's? Why don't they share their so called expertise? These videos are not intended for experienced commercial contractors!!!! They are for the DIY!!!! HELLO!
I'm not crittersizing his work or way of doing it i just said it looks good enough to me it would pass without the tape let the clay dry and do a smooth sanding then roll some paint on you'll never see a line
This is a great 3 minute video that is loaded with useful information.
There is no droning on about what happened earlier while getting coffee or time consuming BS music and intros.
It was concise and informative. Maybe you can make a video on how to make a youtube video.
Thank you!!
Holy scrud. Very helpful! I think the thing I found the most helpful was the fact that he said the FIRST layer of mud below the tape is ~ 1/8" thick. That one piece of info I something I've wondered for years. I love the slow pace and detailed explanations. Thanks, guys!
+Twister051 2 questions for you: 1) Why do you "cut" the mud like that when it sits on your trowel? Is that just habit or is there some reason? Does it keep the mud fresh/moist? Is it to keep the pile of mud neat and tidy and therefore easier to manage?2) How hard do you press the tape into the mud? If you start with ~ 1/8" layer of mud below the tape, how much mud is left BELOW the tape AFTER you embed the tape in the mud?Thanks in advance!
I agree with MIke. As a stay-at-home single mom, I am always look for ways to improve my DIY skills. Your video was very helpful. Thank you.
Some people think that for me to fix MY OWN house, on MY OWN spare time, it's required to be productive. That's some pretty damn stupid assumptions. I have a whole bunch of spare time, I can work on my house as long as I want and I don't need to be productive, I just need to get the job done.
These videos are great!
I hope you just ignore the many asshats out there, Myron. You do an great job. I have your books, use your website and appreciate your many contributions to Fine Homebuilding. You've helped me to have the confidence to tackle (and complete) a whole house rehab with great results. I'm now finishing a large addition on our current home and am adding some custom details using drywall that would be difficult (and far more expensive) to do with wood. Well done. Keep the great info coming!!
great video - thanks for the tips!
Thanks for posting. Can't find my pricey mesh I bought some years ago and figured it was time to learn how to make peace with paper.
The simplest video I have seen on doing this. Thanks.
Your video was very helpful. Thanks.
Thank you sir, great video!
It seems to me alot of proffesional tapers are very insecure, and when they see someone doing someone do somthing different, they assume it is no good. I am a general contractor, and if a taper showed up and looked like this guy, and was articulate, I would love to have him onsite. A lot tapers are really rough charachters in my neck of the woods. I have used a lot of different guys and this guy is good,and cares about what he does.
Pete Haselden cause they’re usually all alcoholics and drive rusty fords. Also they smoke and look like shit. Most of the time they don’t show up and then they just move on out of the area
Myron must have had good parents.
@@bababooey1266 shut up fafaflunky
Tim Sizemore - that must of hit home lol!
Just hire some Mexicans, they do good work.
The man is good. I have his book. He tells you what you really need to know.
Very very good. Thanks for the help. I just got this kind of tape instead of the mesh. I hear this is better. But I was a little lost .
So satisfying to watch!
Shot out from Houston! Sir, you just helped me understand the simplicity of such a necessary chore that I have been apprehensive about. Here in my hold house (which I cherish) and there is always something that needs tending to...I really didn't have much of a technique in mind so seeing you using the ur tools so practically and efficiently helps a lot. I'm laughing because my 12 oz of puddy is dwarfed by that bucket and putting the spackle on the trowel is genius! left to my own devices i would have keep using my offset (kitchen/cake) spatula every time my jar was emptying. Be blessed Myron.
Yep my dad tough me how to tape and float since I was 11.. I started working full time after High School because the pay was better but I learned how to Metal Frame,Sheet rock, Tape and Float, Paint, Acoustic Ceilings, and more... Though Tape and Floating is more fun, Because you're basically a artist! you need skills to Tape and Float.. skills that you don't get in one day or one week or one month.. or a year... but it takes many many years to actually learn to perfection..
muy buenos videos estoy sorprendido dela facilidad de como hacerlo
Thanks that helps alot!
Great vid bud
Thanks my friend
good job I like it
Beginner at renovation here, wanna look at the proper way to do things. When using the spackle to cover seams in drywall, is it not good enough to use spackle only? What is the purpose of using tape/mesh vs. spackle compound only?
Thanks, good vid.
Just saved my life man.... lol thanx
lowe's and home depot near me do not have the curved trowel he was referring to, its great unless you can never get the tools they recommend.
Hi Myron,
Thanks for the tips. I am getting ready to do a job on a remodel, and would like to ask your where you purchased the round sanding pad at? Like to get one instead of using mesh sanding.
greg
i used to be skeptical of fibatape too, but ......... it works. and i's bin hangin' and tapin' fer a long time. i'm sure there are lots of pros out there who use it.
I see this guy cut right down the center of the knife and pan vs hawk and trowel debate. Now I want to see someone tape with a pan and hawk lol.
thanks!
I think I get it. Thanks!
Did I miss something? Your video doesn't provide the DIY'er WHICH side of the tape to place against the initial layer of mud on the wall. Had to learn this lesson by watching other UA-camrs.
thanks,god bless.
“…Not too thick, not too thin”.
Well I guess I learned a lot from that.
😊
I'm renovating the garage right now. The old paper tape peeled right off because there was bubbles underneath. Looks as if the joint compound someone else used shrunk over the nail dimples and created bubbles.
I just put all pupose joint compound over the dimples and joint but no tape. Its been 3 days and its completely dry.
Should I sand and go over it like normal with the tape? Or scrape all my work off and redo it like in the vid? Thanks
How do you tape a factory tapered edge to the factory butt edge? Has someone posted a tutorial on this type of taping?
Cheers
@screaminone: ...compund applied to panel edges when panels are being installed, n then compound excess troweled away...?
Very helpful.... what happens if the space between the joints are too big? Do you just fill it with the compound?
Yes
Is the mud thinned out at all? If so, how much?
definitely a master at work. Now I have a different problem, that is re-working the seams along the ceiling/wall joint on vaulted high ceilings, it's typical issue with new construction after 5 - 10 yrs when some walls settle and drywall pulls away from ceiling even just an eight of an inch, and it opens up the edge where tape was adhered to the wall, or sometimes it separates from the ceiling drywall. I guess it depends on which side was a weaker joint, I don't know. But I'd like to hear from the PROs here, how would you tackle that job, would you just get some mesh tape and just amend on top of original tape, let dry and texture, or cut the joint open with a knife and redo the entire seam from scratch, then re-texture?
I use the puddy on those then wood trimming
I always use yellow tape on large gaps.. will paper tape work well on large gaps??? Any luck??? I use paper on the corners and liked the way it lined up, but the flat area where i had a larger gap then i would prefer i used the yellow tape. On good seams i would rater use paper..
@shkv40 lowes should have hot mud but i cant say because i almost never go to lowe's. Home depot has it for sure, it should be somewhere near the regular joint compound area. It comes in 18pound bags & increments of 5,20,45,90,minutes etc... It sets very fast & rarely cracks. HTH :)
If you get those three books published, you would have to be a master chef.
i tried this 2 days ago and my tape bunched up and crumpled, i was unable to get all the plaster out from under the tape and when i went back to Spackle over the tape the tap smeared around everywhere.
Guess you don’t need to concave trowel for applying compound over tape joints as you use the knife.
Is this where you sign up for the pissing contest?
You need to look into a 14" mud pan & knife.
i still use paper and mud in the corners though, but i think i saw somewhere that there was such a thing as self adhering, creased paper tape. anybody used that?
Hi.thanks for the tutorial. Can I put drywall on my bedroom walls. The walls in my room sound very hollow. And the room gets vety cold too inspite of heating. Please advise me.
So you don’t go over it with another layer? Genuinely curious I don’t know
butt seems first (the 4' edge or non tapered)... manufacturers edge 2nd... inside corners last. Same order for applying coats..
Great video.. but I always get bubbles if I dont dunk the tape in h20. How do you not?
I typically H2o as well. I think his ~ 1/8" depth of mud is the difference. 🤔 agree?
You are putting the wrong side of the paper tape to the wall. Yes there is a right side and a wrong side that a lot of these so called professional tapes call them selves but they are not shower you correctly. There is a shiny side and a flat or if you hold it in the light you can see what I'm talking about. Shiny shade to wall or crease side out.
A pan or a hawk has the same purpose of a trowel in this video. If you are taping do your corner angles first its just the right thing to do.
I can build a wall from chalk-line, framing, to finally hanging drywall completely level, but for some reason taping and spackling results in a complete mess.
I am just curious shouldn't you push in some drywall mud into the crack that you are bridging with the tape?
that was the 1st thing he did.
He did
@olafbigandglad i have, its called wet and stick, fucking magic for internal taping, but i wouldnt use it on flat joins, it tends to bubble on those, not only that you would have to caulk in your joins heaps for it, as any little bits u miss turn into the most nightmarish bubbles
okay, im gonna sound like an idiot on this, but i thought the idea of using mesh on a seam is direct contact with both panels, to provide rigidity and holding strength, then tape over that to provide smooth surface on which to apply compound, and make for easier and less sanding in prep for painting. School me on this please, 'cause it appears sensless to put tape over compound. Is extra-strong compound ever applied to joined edges n then troweled off?
I finish drywall up here in canada. I do around 12000 Sq ft a week. Working for one of the most successful drywalls companies here. Honestly in 15 years of taping the best knife I've ever used for wiping tapes are the 8" plastic knifes that are $3. the 8" also you to wipe all excess and crumbs with one swipe.
The truth is "paper" tapes is stronger than mesh, even the mesh companies admit it. The ONLY advantage of mesh tape is that it comes in mold-resistant versions... better for wet or humid areas. Mesh can seem easier to apply to start, but sanding and layering require extra care.
Paper tape is low tier garbage.
The one video that seems to be missing on youtube is how NOT to install drywall. like the outcomes of different poor techniques that a lot of amateurs make. eg having joins directly above doors and windows or what happens when you glue where you screw
This is much easier and faster with the TapeBuddy.
He usually makes his wet enough to a consistency of whipped pudding. Sorry it's not more specific, best simile I can think of at the moment.
This way when you're finishing the corner the screws are hiding in the joint😊
Does it matter what side you put the tape on?
No
I'm surprise expert villege hasn't done any of these xD
@mikenamber2007 he is not trying to teach professionals he is just showing the average homeowner the basics.
What's the tape for? I did drywall once awhile back when helping my dad and he never used it. Do you really need it, I just asking bc I want to work on a room in my house
If you have to ask, you shouldn't work on a room in your house. treverlid87
I dont always give a fuck but when I do it doesn't involve your opinion. Dont bother replying unless you've got a legitimate answer for my question.
treverlid87 You obv. always do give a fuck.
Why you need tape for drywall you ask? It covers the joints and gaps in drywall sheets that are butt together. By taping you can achieve a smooth finish spread evenly over top of the gap / tape and sheet bevels.
Now go get your crysterbation station finished.
Mighty Timbers You did not had to be rude.Here we just try to help each other and share experience.I use and I don't use tape in every project,It's all depend on surface that need to be mud,In some cases joints are very tight and even flat that tape is not really necessary
semko71
yea, but this is the internet, and youtube, where we can let loose a little sarcasm before giving friendly advice w/o anyone getting hurt.. not like on the job!
From my experience it is waay faster and easier to use mesh on concave joints and it assures that the tape is embedded below the flat surface of the drywall. To avoid potential cracking it is better to use fast set compound which is harder when dry .
If you do choose to use paper tape then it is very important to use a knife only as wide as the tape. This ensures that the tape is pushed to the bottom of the concave surface. Then apply enough compound to fill the void and use a knife wide enough to " ride " on the flat surface of the drywall.
The reason for these concave joints is so you won't have to feather out the joint , saving a lot of time .
If you don't embed the tape below the surface of the drywall then you are defeating the usefulness of the concave joint.
The compound sprayers are less productive and suck. I ran circles around professional drywall guys when they had three of them one running the sprayer and two smoothing it out and i flew by them doing it this way except I used a hawk instead of a curved trowel. So I think compound sprayers suck.
I'm 15 and I work drywall with my brother and sister who pay me with they're income anyway I need help my brother and sister constantly blabber about how sloppy my work comes out
Looks like you don't need no tape now on that the puddy covered it up good enough
@shkv40 please do GOOD LUCK !!
I tried this , bubbles & wrinkles galore
Wow, 30sec of a video and first disinformation,
Mesh tape only works on a vertical joints, ceilings and etc. and it is MUCH faster process. In Europe we install drywall vertically.
The problem ,showing the use of the trowel ,is that it takes a lot of practices. I bet he has a lot of bubbles in his tape job. But I will still use paper tape for all seams.
If you missed it my reason behind my comment is, its just the right thing to do. A flawless argument really I didn't say everything else is wrong. I can personally tell you the commercial job i have coming up that has ~200000 sq ft they would absolutely fire us if we didn't tape in the order of buts>flats>corners.... Oh wait no they don't fucking care. "looking more professional" is a stupid thing to say when all there is to judges is a final product. Everyone has their own method.
I don't really get why you use a curved trowel as a hawk. Too bad you don't show the proper use of a curved trowel, it's an underused tool imo.
Geesh.now what./Now I gotta go looking for more vids..ugh.
Going to? LoL. Proves my point 100%. People just saying crap to say crap.
Well to me its good enough i wouldn't put tape over it.
I've had a hell of a time redoing a few walls before that had old tape on the walls i took down a bunch of old wood paneling and the walls looked like pure shit at first specially around the window framing the walls glue all over so i sanded it flat
But soon as i started rolling some paint on the wall that old tape stuck to the roller so i stopped painting cause i seen that's what'll happen on down to the other walls so i started peeling off all the old tape and re mudded every crack on the walls
So sometimes all a person needs is a bucket of pink puddy an sandpaper or a sander
3:30 seconds to tape a 5ft flat, FIRED ! Lol
So many haters below it is not funny. This guy has three books and videos out. Wondering what all the naysayers accomplished other then 12 packs of beer.
You aren't smoothing out the tape and first layer of mud right then.
I am going to write 3 books on cooking and make a video making grilled cheese. I am a master chef now.
@John37816: I knew i would, i'll admit, i'm an amateur! :?( lol!
3rd generation taper? I'm 24 and ive done this for 12 years. I'm sick of it but I could school this guy.
Hey Myron - We just posted a video on our new Automatic Taper. I'd love your for you to comment on it. Check out our latest Hardened Taper video on our UA-cam Channel: walltoolstv
@shkv40 I think you are going too thick with your mud which is causing your cracks. One solution, also, would be to use "hot mud" which is the powder mud that comes in different minute set times 20,45,90 etc.. get yourself some 45 minute & i think your cracks will stop. Hot mud is MUCH less likely to crack ;)
The American love there compound and spending lots of money Unnecessarily
Ridgid
great video brother. do me a favour and check out some of my taping videos too. drywall taping in southern ontario
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@AlizeesNewBoyfriend Dude, go to Home Depot and buy some. Don't use masking tape, seriously. Not taping your joins will, at the least, cause issues when painting. It's half assed, man, do it right.
looks like i see a little gap there onthe short wall, someone wastnt paying attention oh by the way get a dawm bango for taping
If you people really want to learn how to finish drywall UA-cam is not the place for it. Go on site and practice it for at least one year. It's not as easy as it seems, it took me three years to learn the whole nine yards.
Seeing quality of workmanship many of so called builders produce, I turned to youtube and internet. No, i am not consider myself a genius or a pro at everything but hey... my results not worse and sometimes better than what I seen from a lot of bozos who call themselves "a pro" with three four of five years of experience. Yes I have miles to go, and a lot to learn however for most applications I do not need whole nine yards.
I'm 19 and It took me 2 years to learn the hole taping thing. I love doing this everyday but I laugh at people like this guy not using a Hawk like a real man
243kingfrank Wow!! Talking trash about a guy that is head and shoulders above you? Wow!!! Why carry something bigger than you need. Stick to being 19 and worry more about your zits.
Mike Regan LMFAO I know everything about building a house from the Foundation to the door bell. Zits really lol
243kingfrank Damn!!! 2 years to learn the "hole" thing?? You must be a prodigy and a genius to become a journeyman taper and expert homebuilder in such a short time. It's a shame you didn't go to medical school.......we could have a cure for cancer in 5 years.......
I got to say it is this your first time momy and dady payed for it
its a bad idea to teach do it yourself types to use a trowel as a mud retainer. they will make a Huge mess. a cheap plastic pan is more practical.
If you get caught short you can take a shit in them too, I mixed it in with the mud once, nobody noticed!
@@superiorbeing95 lol
Where have all the curmudgeons gone? Everyone posts these flowery comments on virtually every video out there, regardless of whether the person in the video knows what they are doing or not.
THIS GUY DOES NOT HAVE A CLUE...........
and u do? you came to this site to learn didn't you?
How can you say that? He clearly does know what he's doing, and he does it quite well.
G4
@MrSLPCamaroSS
LOL at the bazuka. Calling him a beginner and busting out tools like a bazuka. What a waste of time, I can tape a whole house by hand with the super taper in the time it takes you to do a room with that over priced drywall tool.
On a side note, unless its a small patch, dry taping is a waste of time, Lastly Curved trowels are useless. Get a real mans trowel and do it properly. jesus people.
Do you need a Drywall Taper? Do you live in the Toronto area? Don't do taping yourself. These video's show you the basic how to. But, these video's don't talk about the pro's and cons. Hire a professional.
Your walls will be smooth as glass! Quality does matter from start to finish.
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