Report: Federal Investigation Into Vince Related To Lawsuit Allegations
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2024
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Larson: “Alright Steve, we just need a simple thumbnail today”
Steve: “I’m about to create a thumbnail so good, Unsolved Mysteries will be come crawling to my DMs for art”
I legit hope Vince sees the inside of a prison.
He’ll mist likely go to a prison where celebrities go…like bill cosby
Laurinaitis did stuff when Vince wasn’t there. Makes his defense kind of impossible.
Exactly.
I do share the same belief that TKO kept Vince in power until they got hold of the company.
Somebody got played......😂
Yuppers maybe with help from 3h and steff
😂Absolutely. Never believe in coincidence, when it comes to business at that level.
Not mad at this idea at all. I feel that's EXACTLY what they did. Once they got it? That's when Ari started acting funny regarding Vince and started taking the steps to make him a figurehead.
They pretty much had to give him a board seat or he wouldn't have approved the sale. I suspect that was always intended as a transitional move.
I wonder if there are stories that we have not heard that happened in the 80s or 90s. There's no way this just started in the 2000s.
Well, I mean there ARE stories from the 80s and 90s that we have heard, so we kinda already know it didn't start in the 2000s...all the stories we haven't heard yet will just be further proof if we ever do hear about them, but they won't surprise most.
@@MichaelRayzzorStarksya and makes u wonder if nailz was telling the truth
When Owen Hart died I knew then what a monster Vince was, its now getting worse.
Unpopular opinion but we were talking about it at work today
Hhh has played politics to get where he is. Hes destroyed careers, buried people and married his way to the top. Once a snake always a snake and it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see him involved in this somehow, even if it's that he knew and kept quiet.
He's been great for the company lately but we can't forget the pos he's been for 30 years
Accurate opinions are often unpopular.
It’s business. *Everyone* politics their way to the top. You think you get to the top of an American corporation by just sitting there and waiting for your turn? Whatever HHH did is exactly the same as every single other higher-up in business today.
@thefuturist8864 I can't think of a single worker who married the bosses daughter, had anyone he didn't like fired and didn't allow his likeness to be seen getting beat in a video game commercial 😂😂 if being unethical is acceptable then being punished for it should be too
Vince is about to go through some things - deservedly, if even a fraction of those allegations are true.
Would it surprise anyone that has followed Vince for the last 40ish years be surprised if this turned out to be true?
Vince McMahon being a scumbag hasn’t been a secret for the better part of 4 decades. I don’t think there is an accusation you can make about him that I wouldn’t believe.
With all these new people contacting Janel Grant's attorney, ten bucks will get you that they accuse someone else and bring literal receipts. There is no way that Brock was the first person that Vince tried to traffic to.
I’m just waiting for trumps name to come up somewhere in all this.. those 2 were buds and those 2 definitely had the same attitude about everything
@@IamIzayisTrump is a good man
I love the new banner at the top
‘14 to ‘24 really puts it into perspective, especially considering I’ve been a fan since way before that
Not trying to throw names out there but from reading the quotes from Paul London I wouldn't be shocked if it comes out Ashley Massaro was a victim
🧢
Yeah, I watched a program earlier that they were thinking the same about Her
I may have false memories but I remember watching and listening to interviews that hinted at this long before this scandal broke. I would not be surprised if a large number of female employees had to pay their due in different ways to get ahead. Sad.
@bullfrogjay4383 Paul London and Rene Dupre have been saying these things about Vince McMahon for years now and they were both blacklisted because of it, now it seems they were right all along smfh
Also rumors about Christy Hemme and Stacy Keibler as well and Sable had a 100 million dollar lawsuit also
Justice for Ashley Massaro!
What happened to her exactly?
@@americangal9292 ua-cam.com/video/YC7fJn_8Z4k/v-deo.html
Justice is an illusion, because nothing can be undone. There can be punishment, there can be compensation, but there will never be justice.
But just because perfection doesn't exist, doesn't mean we shouldn't aim for it.
WWE fans love turning a blind eye to everything. They will continue to do so till as long as possible. Vince got freaking cheered a day after the sexual assault allegations news broke out. Morality and standards get easily overlooked in favor of fandom.
HHH probably knew, and could have taken a stronger stance and didnt .. Brock probably was directly involved .. others too .. but WWE fans will blindly create narrative to absolve everyone of their wrong doings (or being enablers by not doing anything) because that is what WWE fans have always done.
You are so right. It bothers me to this day that he came out there and said, “Together.” And it is right there in their opening to every show. They are NOT together, and it sickens me that WWE fans think they are. Like you said, turning a blind eye.
WWE shows also attract a certain type, as do NASCAR races. I was not surprised when they cheered.
It sucks to say but considering the relatively low payout and recentness of this accusation that probably means the others will probably be much worse:(
Thank you for the work you guys do you’re awesome
you guys handled this topic as well as you can.
A good question is how much Bryan Danielson knew/ heard when he was in WWE during that time knowing his position in the company
My respect for Larson has grown by at least 20 percent today!
Steve's point about HHH not leaving because of 'protection, or trying to make some change' I think is well made, especially ina context where its really hard to imagine what people could do other than quit. I also think HHH's reasoning may have been to give those few actors that could potentially push vince out, networks, sponsors, shareholders/owners etc. the option to do so. The fact that wrestling was so insular and closely identified with WWE and Vince imbues Vince with an aura of being singularly equipped to run the show and thus indispensible, 'too big to fail'. For Vince to be pushed out requires a presence of somebody who could inspire enough consequence in those stakeholders that Vince could be replaced.
I wonder how involved undertaker was. Him and Vince are tight same with cena
I was scrolling the comments to see if anyone else wondered if these allegations could tarnish people like taker and cena who are openly always there for Vince
Time will tell. Or rather...other employees will.
They 1000 percent knew about Vince’s shenanigans
The current one that is an issue is after Cena and Taker were by and large out so they may have had limited interactions with Vince and not have known. I would be very surprised if Cena would have kept quiet and risked his Hollywood career for Vince in 2019
@@0ndem not talking about just this incident everything over the years. Of course he wouldn’t say about Vince bc he made him
I feel like HHH and Stephanie found out but HHH was threatened to keep quiet. I really want to believe HHH stayed to keep everyone else as safe as he could.
They’re also family. That’s a pretty difficult choice to make, it has business, criminal, and even personal consequences
Why would he be threatened to stay quiet and stay employed, but Stephanie was allowed to leave? You aren't thinking about this logically
Same. Remember, him and Steph were 2 out of the board votes against Vince coming back. If they were in cahoots why would they vote against him?
@@IronClawGamingTo cover their asses
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Completely agree they really need to cut the people who we’re enabling Vince and letting him get away with this behaviour
Were you guys in the RAW crowd in 2003 when The Rock dissed the Kings?
So, what are the chances HHH was the whistleblower in this situation?
Well, it would explain his responses in the press conference.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't HHH
🤔🤔🤔🤔@@bashamd96
It’d make sense considering how as soon as the situation presented itself H,Steph and Nick did their damnest to keep Vince away
@@bashamd96 part of me says it was a "cabal" of people who were finally sick and tired of being sick and tired of vince's chicanery. one thing for certain, "the call was coming from inside the house" as it were.
If Vince was an average citizen, he’d be in prison. I’m glad we are starting to see billionaires facing some sort of justice.
I'm going to be honest, the wwe was my childhood and a huge part of my adult life. I bought field tickets to wm28. Im going to have to give my time and money to other wrestling companies until this is sorted out. The wwe having higher ups being involved in what seems to be a huge cover up bothers me. I wonder if this is part of what causes Ashley Massaro to have the issues that led to her death. Its tough to want to be invested in wwe.
I've had experience working in all kinds of companies and corporations tells that the fallout here in terms of turnover won't be immediate. The company has to be seen as making proper investigations. And they have to appear to be making proper measured plans going forward.
But I imagine people like HHH's days are numbered. The conversations around his replacement are probably happening now, so that if a bombshell drops they are ready ... but I'm guessing they'd love to wait a year so they can deny it's cleaning house of a bad culture and say it's just the business going in another direction with some new strategy
Who was the wrestler from the PWI quote? The “modern day superstar”?
Dat thumbnail
Unionize. Accept noting less.
Paying a middle man you have to pay to pretend to look after your best interest is for the birds
This is going to be great 😂
I agree with Steve. I love Triple H's creative reign, but if he is found to be complicit, he should be booted. I really like to hope he didn't know, but it also wouldn't shock me greatly if he did. Because think about this: this guy spent so much time and effort to get to where he is. Do you seriously think he would be speaking out if it meant his career could be threatened? It would be very difficult to be put in that position, the principled thing would be to resign or speak out, or maybe issue an ultimatum to try and make it stop. Would Triple H have done any of that if it meant threatening everything he worked years for? Would most people? I can totally see what Mr. Anonymous Wrestler being true, but it's also not cool to assume the worst before everything comes to light.
anyone close to vince who is still in the company(including HHH) should be let go immediatley
tbh jericho is meltzers friend but jericho has had ALOT of allegations about him recently he may be involved with some of this who know
By "ALOT", you mean one journalist, and by "allegations" you mean innuendos about NDAs that might not exist.
Vince needs to be arrested a d tossed in prison to rot.
Maybe a trial first, pal?
@@thefuturist8864Most people accused of what he’s been accused of would be incarcerated until a trial ended with a not guilty verdict.
You heard it here FIRST from S&L.
I heard it hours ago from wrestlelamia and cultaholic wrestling but not to this extent
they are literally reading reports and quotes from other sources. But yeah, they were first
Vince and his buddy, drumpf, both going down together in 2024!
Everyone remember when WWE did an investigation last year and cleared him? The literal meaning of “the company investigated itself and found nothing.”
So the didn't really talk about the feds getting involved
I don't think anyone who has followed wrestling over just the past 30 years has been really shocked or surprised at the allegations or that there's a potential federal investigation into Vince McMahon's conduct. I think what we're more surprised about is that it took this long
I do wonder now that its tko are the wrestler's employees now or are they still consdered Independent contractors as thats a back difference
We can agree that Triple H knew more, even if we don't know _how much_ or _when._ But taking time to think about it, I'm not sure if we can assume he didn't do anything, and I'm really not sure how much he could have done. Your wife's dad owns the company... How do you get him out AND protect your family intetests? Just quit and leave him to his devices? Push him out behind the scenes?
Agreed. But, I feel trips was more of the "we gotta clean uo this mess" attitude rather than "we gotta cover it up", given that he wasn't in favor of Vince returning last year
@@jimmyrolls37But how long did he help cover up Vince’s crimes before Vince left the first time?
I lost my hey you’re not me shirt so I’d love another merch line I’d buy at least three shirts
"Hey, You're not me" I remember I somehow got Big E to read my comment out saying that in an Up Up Down Down live stream with Corbid right next to him. None of them had any idea what I meant. But it made me laugh.
Vince needs some jailtime. And not one of those Martha Stewart kind of prisons either.
You mean women’s prison?
remember when Shane got fired literally in the middle of a PPV?
Theoretical- what if shane got fired the way he did and decided "i have nukes (in the form of inside knowledge of depraved and criminal stuff), i shall use them" and started making phone calls outing vince.
I grew up watching WWF/WWE up till 2016 and I stop watching it, I look at some of their stuff in the 2020's. After this Vince lawsuit I am done with WWE and I will just watch other wrestling companies shows
I think it's intellectually dishonest to try to now say that Vince's contributions are overrated(in reference to the person steve mentioned). Fact of the matter is people are going to tell themselves what they need to, to try and justify them to keep watching. Majority of people aren't going to care that much becuase they're not going to give up their comfort show/convenience for this. TKO doesnt care outside of public image.
Thats from the murky side of things to how they don't do much for the UFC athletes.
Being a big corporation there should be an ethics department.
Does anyone have tex messages from Vince to anyone???
Buddy has been a true sicko for many many years
I mean just looking back at a lot of Vince’s Storylines I truly believe he was playing out a lot of his mess
Who was the modern day superstar? 🤔
I bet that TKO has turned State evidence for immunity against allegations
To really separate Vince McMahon from TKO/WWE, does TKO need to change name from WWE to something else?
Where’s friendocast???
Should already be in jail been doing these things for decades how u can pay people and get away with it is it criminal
HHH is dirty as hell himself.
Justice for Chyna.
Here the worst about the genius ,Dr evil Vkm, his goal was to destroy the company if he was removed,so what does he do, he incriminated entire creation in his actions to take down the company if held accountable
Steve ate too many microwave burritos at the WaWa by the preformance center and did not impress executives as a result
I started warching wrestling in 1999 as a real little kid and WWF/E has and still is the primary company I watch. I am trying my best not to let the evil actions of Vince McMahon take away my happy memories and the good times I've had with WWE. I am not going to give him that power, he doesn't get to take that from mine or anyone as fans.
However its tough and I get disheartened and sick hearing about these stories and even from interviews like the one Torrie Wilson gave with how much she was uncomfortable doing the things she did or from Candice Michele who has said this for years, or even Lita talking about the live sex thing with Edge. This stuff needed to come out and it is going to hurt, lotta people are going to stop watching and that's okay, but this needed to happen to have any real shot at change and improving the comapny.
This quote comes from a top-level star of the modern era, writing in under the pseudonym of "PM Cunk"
Ain't no way punk would Talk to Dave meltzer. He hates him. 😂
With this stuff and Vince, it feels like the Sports/Wrestling version of the situation with Bobby Kotick from Activision/Blizzard. He's getting a golden parachute and it sucks but let's hope Vince doesn't. Both are wealthy SOBs that took their power way too far and their companies eventually in the wrong direction. But around the same time, it seems both companies might hopefully be looking up.
I truly do believe that both Stephanie and triple h knew that this was someone Vince was seeing, and they probably thought it was just some bimbo that Vince was playing with, but at the same time I do think that they learned some of the allegations or to some degree the allegations in the investigation into the hush money. And I do think they are somewhat legitimately taken back by the depth and depravity of the allegations, and I hate to call them allegations cuz I do believe Janelle Grant
I guess I don't know what Triple H was supposed to say at the rumble. He's head of creative. Not HR. But maybe a press conference wasn't the best idea.
Yeah that was a bad call I’m sure he was trying to still process it professionally and personally for his family and kids, they should’ve had Nick Khan there, kinda of a crappy corporate move
I think they were worried about the optics of cancelling the press conference.
i would bet a wwe hall of famer would pardon him if they win inNovember. it shocks me a reporter hasn't asked him about that yet
Vince really should of stepped back to a office role in like 2018 and should of out rite retired in 2020
And this will possibly destroy WWE as known.
Didn't UE get you cancled for the shoulder lean
Incredibly likely and hilarious if true.
It's disheartening to see the deep-seated issues within WWE, especially given its history. The company was born in a time when accountability was lacking, and it's evident in the numerous controversies it's faced. The recent revelations demand extreme measures to prevent a recurrence. The murky past requires thorough scrutiny, and those complicit should face consequences. WWE needs a transformative shift to break free from its old boys' club mentality and ensure a safer environment. I’m not saying you have to fire everybody but a lot of people have some hard conversations to be apart of
Remember after Vince had to "retire" the first time due to the allegations, Seth Rollins said in an interview that he rang Vince up crying telling him he loved him.
Shoulder Gate got Steve Here black balled from 2K events.
I don’t think you can think of WWE without thinking about the McMahon name.
It dates right back to the WWWF.
It’s merely impossible. Vince McMahon Sr. Must be turning in his grave.
Vince has not been convicted for any crimes yet but all I have to say is absolute power corrupts absolutely.
OK, so I had to speak to Dope first before I wrote this. This episode made me upset because Black people have been telling wrestling fans, especially the Internet wrestling community, for years about the racism in wrestling. It is hard to be a fan that is a conflict. We are told we are overacting. Sometimes I feel like we’re not listened to and it’s just irritates me.
The McMahon name is too synonymous with wwe any fan over 10 probably won’t ever be able to separate it. It’s going to be a whole generation until it’s just wrestling
Vince has been the barrier between me and watching WWE for a long time, now I feel like the company needs a root canal before I ever go back to watching it.
This would only help in a superficial way but should TKO re-brand WWE and give it a different name after they get everyone out they see fit?
That’s is so dumb
@@charlesberry7297What a well structured argument!
Wow, a rich white man in America might face the consequences of his actions? Color me stunned but happy.
What has occurred to me is how this may affect other promotions. Let's be honest former employees may be questioned. And what they reveal might have repercussions for theim in their current employment.
Stephanie & Paul Triple H are Separated I've heard my Man's STEVE and LARSEN
Wait, who's the modern day superstar? Punk?
Ok, I heard it a second time. Nevermind🙂
I'm still sitting here guessing. 😂😂😂
Who tf is it? 😂
@@atticus8659I’m lost here 🤣
Who? I need to know!
Vince is the type to top himself over going away depending how long he'd get
Narcissists like vince never kill themselves. He will want to live till 140 just to spite everyone
Until people who helped Vince cover this up I cant in good conscience watch and support WWE.
Sick villain by definition
your guys' ideas for how to spend your billion are all great, but I'm surprised there was no mention of what you'd do for ACW.
Oh easy, we’d show everyone how to book an awesome promotion for 2 months then realize how hard it is and then quit
Nothing will happen! Vince is a multi billionaire and money talks.
Like you guys said in the video i am here for the talent and personally the stories. I believe that the reason Paul stayed as well was also like you guys said, to possibly protect the talents and to start making a workplace culture change. Paul was a talent as was Shawn, WWE is their home and i feel they want to make the company better and to protect and build it's future because they love the sport and the fans. They also really seem to love their talents and their talents love them. I think they stayed for loyalty not to Vince or the company but the sport, the talent, and the fans. Which is why I think morale was so high under Paul
I must high af, but swore these two casually said that Hunter had no choice but to say nothing, because there was an investigation ongoing...
I wonder who was talking about triple h ….. two names come too mind
Who?
Punk?
I thought that briefly but Phil hates Meltzer sooo nah imo
lol I remembered that also, like a minute after I sent his name. Definitely wasn't him@@HighplainsDrifter85
I immediately thought Punk, but also realized he wouldn't have been talking to Meltzer. Some people seem to have figured it out, but I still have no idea.
Time for him to get another neck surgery I guess.
I think it's sad that Vince took his father's creation and turned it into his private brothel. The only thing that will stop Vince (if he doesn't serve time) is his mental health and/or mobility.
Guys, I get it. The allegations are horrific, allegations, being the key word. It’s sloppy of you automatically say he did it no matter what you think, personally innocent until proven guilty.
I guess its true what they say the feds always get they're man 😂😂😂😂😂
Just like the Mountie
did Larson just say in the late 60's is when the first WrestleMania happened? wow.. that's some peak level wrogness happening there. I think the first one was in 85... not the late 60's...
Hell move to Saudi Arabia as they would let him live there like king
Going in raw eh.........😐
I don’t have access to any of the information nor have I reviewed any of the claims made against Vince and other WWE employees. I also know little if anything about US corporate, criminal or contract law. For some reason, however, I still have an opinion about this story.
I wonder if Stephanie and Paul allow their girls to be alone with Vince?
I'm supporting WWE because I'm supporting HHH, his team, and mostly the wrestlers.