the portrayal of female rage in film.

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  • @ChelbeyTrump
    @ChelbeyTrump Рік тому +4235

    y’all are missing the point. women never get to be angry. we always have to be prim and professional. this is showing how powerful it can be when we say scream, something we’re judged to do, something we’re repressed from doing. like the entire point is that our emotions are powerful because we women are deep. we’re not shallow we’re not quiet. we can be loud.

    • @bellahawthorne4228
      @bellahawthorne4228 Рік тому +80

      So true!! Male anger is instant, at least the male anger I’ve witnessed is always straight to 100, straight to shouting but women it’s gradual almost. We have spent our whole lives having to control it to not come across as psychotic and crazy so it’s a gradual increase until we can’t hold it in anymore then it’s explosive and emotive. It’s not just anger it’s hurt , sadness, betrayal and just being so sick of trying to hold it in. Not saying men don’t feel that way either but I’ve always felt that women’s anger is always perceived as shocking cos we aren’t allowed to be angry. My mum always said to me “never apologise for being angry. You are allowed to be angry.”

    • @cyerk
      @cyerk 10 місяців тому +66

      @@bellahawthorne4228whenever males are angry nobody bats an eye, they think it’s just them being them, but when women do it we are perceived as dramatic, throwing a tantrum, being a bitch, being a brat, being stupid, overdoing it, being annoying, everyone calls us crazy, and gaslights us, because we can’t show emotion and they are so used to us agreeing.

    • @flavortown6280
      @flavortown6280 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@cyerk True

    • @naeturekey
      @naeturekey 4 місяці тому +1

      @@cyerk exactly! or they say 'you must be on ur period'

    • @robertreichler1577
      @robertreichler1577 4 місяці тому

      ​@@cyerkanger is one of the only emotions that's socially acceptable for men to have. We are taught not to cry because it shows weakness. Women can't be angry without being labeled difficult or a bitch and men can't be sad without being seen as weak or a pussy.

  • @thefold1016
    @thefold1016 Рік тому +5870

    "I have a thing about feminine rage :>" - Anya Taylor Joy (with a little kick)

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +205

      love her!! that interview was my inspo for the video haha

    • @ginaverso
      @ginaverso Рік тому +55

      It's phenomenal to see that we're starting to talk about this topic properly, yes! 🙌🏼

    • @ifyoulikepinacolada254
      @ifyoulikepinacolada254 Рік тому +8

      @@savannahgrace05 i knew it!! lol

    • @veronikawadhwa998
      @veronikawadhwa998 Рік тому +3

      @@savannahgrace05 what interview is that?

    • @holychaos5398
      @holychaos5398 Рік тому +7

      She's a queen for that 👑

  • @machandell8188
    @machandell8188 Рік тому +5703

    Fiona, since season 1, has always had the best anger moment/ acting skills, Emmy (the actress) is so great at portraying anger, the face expression, shameless has so many great actors but Fiona’s anger scenes were always ground breaking

    • @nonabonn
      @nonabonn Рік тому +61

      **her name's Emmy, but you're right about her outstanding talent!!

    • @machandell8188
      @machandell8188 Рік тому +15

      @@nonabonn omg yes you’re right ! I wasn’t sure while writing the comment but I didn’t want to leave UA-cam !

    • @justgotserious9124
      @justgotserious9124 Рік тому +47

      She deserved so much better and I’m still mad Frank didn’t mention her name on his farewell letter. I replayed the ending many times thinking I just missed it but she was snubbed.

    • @hercreation
      @hercreation Рік тому +5

      Yesssss it’s my first time watching shameless (haven’t finished ir yet, up to season 4) and I’m always Impressed with her actress

    • @trashmouth-tozier
      @trashmouth-tozier Рік тому +4

      I thought you were talking about the Fiona from Shrek and I was really confused

  • @lizanya6433
    @lizanya6433 Рік тому +2812

    sydney sweeney deserved an emmy for her euphoria performance. she and zendaya carried this season on their backs single-handedly and i hate that sydney isn’t getting enough credit.

    • @sadie6094
      @sadie6094 Рік тому +85

      it's because people (imo somewhat unfairly) hate Sydney's character too much. When they see Cassie screaming and getting angry, whether she's wrong or right in the situation they call her crazy and overdramatic, not looking at why she's so mad or her side of the story. They have sympathy for Rue, they understand her anger, even if they don't agree with her actions or opinions, and so they praise Zendaya's acting. If they understood Cassie's performance a little more she'd definitely have a few awards under her name, and I hope once the series progresses and Cassie develops, more people will appreciate Sydney.

    • @lizanya6433
      @lizanya6433 Рік тому +24

      @@sadie6094 real omfg i wish people would just be more understanding towards cassie overall. she is suffering just as much as rue because of her addiction to male validation and she needs serious help and i hate that the fans of the show aren’t extending the curtesy we give rue, to cassie.

    • @iknowexactlywhoyouare8701
      @iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Рік тому

      Nah. That would’ve been Emmy Rossum. She’s far more talented

    • @iknowexactlywhoyouare8701
      @iknowexactlywhoyouare8701 Рік тому +1

      Sydney’s “rage” scene was less than 3 seconds 💀

    • @Prithedivine
      @Prithedivine Рік тому

      @@lizanya6433 be so fr

  • @biborkabatki6320
    @biborkabatki6320 Рік тому +8388

    The boys are just giving childish temper tantrums they're honestly embarrassing but the women scare me, I love them

    • @muhammadlee-
      @muhammadlee- Рік тому +154

      If you watched this compilation and didn't think most of these were tantrums perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word. These are quite literally tantrums.

    • @shumishu6019
      @shumishu6019 Рік тому +159

      90% of these scenes are all tantrums lmfao

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому +151

      Half of these are tantrums. But Fiona almost killed her brother. Lip has the right to be angry. And Nate still sucks but he was upset with his father for traumatizing him which is still valid. The rest by the men are tantrums I think.

    • @kitsulu8576
      @kitsulu8576 Рік тому +120

      It's because women are conditioned to hold in their anger or else they're seen as dramatic, hysterical and crazy even if it's completely valid, eventually it inevitably reaches a boiling point and explodes, which makes women more dangerous and unpredictable because they don't hold back at that point (in my opinion). I don't know if half of these scenes portray that, but that's just how it is based on my experience.

    • @PickyVickyVindictive
      @PickyVickyVindictive Рік тому +57

      Literally only one was a tantrum. Everyone else were expressing raw emotion. None of you know anything you're talking about. Lol You only said that to invalidate male anger.

  • @evasmiljanic3529
    @evasmiljanic3529 Рік тому +642

    For some reason the scene at 2:57 stuck to me. Just the sheer, held back rage she had to smile and walk away. You know she's livid inside but not letting it out, the bitterness just drips out. This is how I commonly see women show anger. Not in screaming, not hysterically. But held back so tightly it seeps through the cracks as bitterness

    • @mydogeatspuke
      @mydogeatspuke Рік тому +30

      Cassie wasn't holding back her rage lol. She was having an episode. She desperately needs psychiatric help. She was screaming hysterically moments before this clip hahahaha, he just met her energy and she didn't like it.

    • @Becksnnc
      @Becksnnc Рік тому +3

      Nate was taking the piss out of her doing exactly the same thing moments before.

    • @digitaljosh_
      @digitaljosh_ 7 днів тому

      You did not watch the show did you 😂

  • @DelRae
    @DelRae Рік тому +4321

    Maybe it’s just me but I always thought realistic female rage was far more repressed and far more more resentful then the ladies screaming in anger.

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому +165

      Yeah but it’s inside so we wouldn’t know it from a movie.

    • @elliefitch112
      @elliefitch112 Рік тому +150

      It’s not good to repress your rage so it’s better to represent it being let out imo, almost like it’s being redefined

    • @jayneb6053
      @jayneb6053 Рік тому

      @@elliefitch112 If women were to express anger and hurt the way men did, we would either get no society or they would be killed in drove. And let's not forget that hysteria was a fake illness invented by men so women can't express everything like in the movie

    • @rainy4354
      @rainy4354 Рік тому +250

      Because in reality, women are expected to hold in their anger and be more agreeable.

    • @browi2809
      @browi2809 Рік тому +281

      I kinda disagree because to me it's more realistic to see a woman scream in anger but most people don't see it as anger they just see it as "being crazy" or "being emotional" so they don't often recognize it as anger. I honestly hate when movies and shows show women raging in silence and you saying it is more realistic kinda just pushes more into the fact that letting it out is "being crazy" or "emotional" when it isn't.

  • @catdragon2584
    @catdragon2584 Рік тому +1402

    There’s a lot of comments on how the women in these clips are embarrassing themselves or setting a bad example for teenage girls watching these clips, but I don’t really think that’s the point of female rage. While there are stories that depict the world as we want to see it, these stories are more about depicting the world as it is. Women get angry, and it’s not always pretty. Sometimes it’s downright ugly. I think the reason it’s focused on here is that women generally aren’t allowed to rage. We’ll get criticized for our anger, and people will refuse to take us seriously unless we channel our feelings in socially acceptable ways.
    In my experience, I don’t know how much raging would’ve helped me as an angry and depressed teenage girl. But I wish I could go back in time to tell her it was okay to not be okay, that I didn’t have to be who everyone wanted me to be, that I could find an outlet for everything I was feeling. Regardless of gender, I’m willing to bet I’m not the only one.

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +35

      thank you! i totally agree

    • @ilooooovekrabbypatties
      @ilooooovekrabbypatties Рік тому +10

      i’m trying to tell myself that now. since my brother passed, i’ve always felt like i was supposed to be okay (i was 12 when he passed). whenever i would say that i wasn’t okay, i would get yelled at, or told “stop using your brother as an excuse”. so now i just stick to “i’m fine” to spare myself from that. i’m still trying to learn how deal with my emotions as a 16 year old.

    • @theSkin_of_a_Killer_Bella
      @theSkin_of_a_Killer_Bella Рік тому +21

      I mean- it’s “rage”😅
      What did people expect? A well composed lady, sitting down making a 5 point argument abt all the emotions she was feeling??
      There’s often hardly any rhyme or reason in ACTUAL rage

    • @gabib4966
      @gabib4966 Рік тому +12

      My ex would push me to the point of screaming like a banchee. Then he’d immediately look me in the eyes and be like, “what’re you yelling for?🤨”. Like mf idk, maybe because you’re INSUFFERABLE??????!!!! And then he’d act all holier than thou bc he was “containing his anger” and I wasn’t. Even though he was expressing it through his ego and spiteful tongue.

    • @StanViviLee
      @StanViviLee Рік тому +3

      ​@@gabib4966sorry.

  • @amberlightrunner4696
    @amberlightrunner4696 Рік тому +935

    Rage starts loud, but it becomes terrifying when things get calm, cold, and quiet.

  • @retro.raider
    @retro.raider Рік тому +2725

    Zendaya should’ve won an Emmy and a golden globe for her euphoria performance

  • @tspeakstlives
    @tspeakstlives Рік тому +541

    Watching Nate raging on the floor is very cathartic.

  • @ettena2890
    @ettena2890 Рік тому +224

    In my experience, a lot of men don't view their own anger as a problem, because it's culturally accepted for men to show that explosive rage. When women display the same set of emotions, they're "crazy".

  • @Love4evermore
    @Love4evermore Рік тому +1508

    For Fiona, although Fiona was Liam's guardian, at the end of the day there were 4-5 other adults present when that happen to Liam, and every last one of them should have kept an eye on Liam when he was there. I feel like Fiona shouldn’t have been fully blamed when other adults were present during that time. Even though they were not Liam's guardians they were still adults so at least one of the adults should have paid attention to a toddler that was there ...

    • @AmandaT_P
      @AmandaT_P Рік тому +236

      And they all collectively looked after him. Hated that they fully blamed her like that. Like they don’t want her to parent them but when something goes wrong it’s her fault

    • @NateGH36O
      @NateGH36O Рік тому +87

      So true!! I never thought about it like that. Legally, yes Fiona was Liam’s guardian, but as a household and family they shared joint responsibility, including Kev and Veronica!

    • @jvstliz8282
      @jvstliz8282 Рік тому +32

      maybe im wrong but a lot of what Fiona did was things that in turn hurt not only her but her family, while what the others did were stuff that mostly affected them individually she didn’t have to take care of them she chose to like when debs got pregnant Fiona refused to help her but debs wanted support and love and had to kinda do it alone and Fiona’s breakdowns were always about situations she got herself into like dumb dating dumb immature men who got her into trouble and everyone always had to support her no questions asked even tho it was her choices that got her there

    • @jvstliz8282
      @jvstliz8282 Рік тому +7

      also this isn’t me being mean just my perspective, I totally don’t mind you sharing your perspective on this too cuz we all view things differently

    • @bugsteeth
      @bugsteeth Рік тому +25

      legally it is fionas fault bc she is more liable because it was her drugs and she was the legal care provider for liam it also happened on her property. tho i do agree someone should have been watching him

  • @arshiyasah3786
    @arshiyasah3786 Рік тому +379

    OK I swear the thing that pisses me off the most is that Fiona gave up so much to take care of them and every time the smallest thing happened they would blame her but then always come back expecting her to like fully take care of them all over again as if they hadn’t done anything wrong. Like whenever she makes like one small mistake,even though everyone around her makes the biggest mistakes, they all take it out on her as if it’s always her fault and they never take responsibility for their own actions

    • @Unidragons
      @Unidragons Рік тому +6

      Liam almost dying from a drug overdose @ the age of 3 was a small little thing (she was the one responsible for him when it happened)
      My thing with Fiona was she had every right to make it all about her like you said she was always giving up so much for the rest of her family (i mean I think they all did to make life liveable in that fd up place) she (as with everyone else) was/were always amazing at protecting and attacking when anyone went after her family but the one time it was supposed to be about her she seemed to show what the show had Been saying since episode 1, and that’s the Gallagher’s are amazing when they all have the same goals, mindset, objectives , etc. Only problem is she was only thinking about clearing her name and making sure she wasn’t going to jail/prison

  • @lefiebeliz8643
    @lefiebeliz8643 Рік тому +5303

    Love it but why's nate here💀

    • @kittensneezes
      @kittensneezes Рік тому +1560

      the description says they put male scenes so you can see the difference on how anger is expressed by men and women.

    • @emptycinema
      @emptycinema Рік тому +287

      Nate is a transwoman

    • @jsaprilslaying
      @jsaprilslaying Рік тому +405

      @@emptycinema girl what

    • @emptycinema
      @emptycinema Рік тому

      @@jsaprilslaying i am saying bullshit without no reason

    • @jinjasdiorlocket
      @jinjasdiorlocket Рік тому +271

      @@emptycinema we dont claim nate.

  • @nessdx7415
    @nessdx7415 Рік тому +208

    rue scene doesn't represent female rage it's addict rage

  • @emilie5273
    @emilie5273 Рік тому +886

    i love being an angry woman

    • @thursdaygurl
      @thursdaygurl Рік тому +45

      never found a comment so relatable

    • @brandonlamb9067
      @brandonlamb9067 Рік тому +7

      Best of luck, yeah?

    • @ashkanmirani2625
      @ashkanmirani2625 Рік тому +5

      Nobody else does

    • @Solar_Corpus
      @Solar_Corpus Рік тому +34

      Idk about you, but being an angry woman for me is painful and I can’t stand it. More power to you I guess.

    • @ashkanmirani2625
      @ashkanmirani2625 Рік тому +5

      @@Solar_Corpus everyone loves being an angry woman because it's not their problem.

  • @rebekahross9479
    @rebekahross9479 Рік тому +676

    I think the most realistic form of rage in this video was cathrine. She had to put up with so much of racism and hatred from her white co workers, and it was all because they didn’t want a smart block woman working with them. She honestly deserved to go off on them like that. I’m also saying this cause this was the only film I actually watched from this video 🤣

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +54

      that scene is honestly my favorite of this whole video, it gives me chills every time!

    • @snake5485
      @snake5485 Рік тому +3

      What movie is that

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +16

      @@snake5485 hidden figures

  • @rei09104
    @rei09104 Рік тому +44

    4:04 when katniss finds out that Peeta is still in the capitol it always makes me cry, Jennifer Lawrence is one of the best actresses fr

  • @ghost-xo1ml
    @ghost-xo1ml Рік тому +368

    fiona deserved better
    they keep forgetting she isn't their mother she is tehri sister and she gave more than she should
    the least they can do if they ain't gonna have her back is stfu
    lip always judges her yet he fcked up his life in all ways

    • @joleo1925
      @joleo1925 Рік тому +21

      She left out cocain near her 3 year old brother, which he ate and was left paralysed in the hospital.

    • @boop99
      @boop99 Рік тому +26

      She didn't deserve pity in this clip. She shouldn't even have cocaine in the house with a child. And she became very self centered as time went on

    • @abiade9614
      @abiade9614 Рік тому +6

      I haven’t watched the show but from what I’ve seen… isn’t she their legal guardian?

    • @boop99
      @boop99 Рік тому +8

      @@abiade9614 She is, but the show forgets that
      Edit: I don't think she is yet at in that clip though

    • @joleo1925
      @joleo1925 Рік тому +5

      @@boop99 Exactly. Not only that, but she was fully considering to go to trial and plead Not Guilty, which would result in her getting 5 years in prison and it's risk she's willing to take, all because "iT wAs An AcCiDeNt".

  • @Nonchalantdreadhead1229
    @Nonchalantdreadhead1229 Рік тому +64

    The woman talking about the coffee pot (from the movie Hidden Figures) was an amazing performance. You could feel her anger through the screen.

  • @user-uz4ts2uu9x
    @user-uz4ts2uu9x 7 місяців тому +25

    It’s so unfair that a woman being upset and having emotions has such a negative outlook where when men are mad they’re allowed to scream and cry and have a tantrum. Women always have to apologise for having human emotions and not fitting in to EVERYONES expectations. We are human too, it’s not fair

  • @bruno_kyouka
    @bruno_kyouka Рік тому +168

    The way the Gallaghers treated Fiona during season 4 though...

    • @tylercooper1443
      @tylercooper1443 Рік тому +8

      Well godamn I imagine most people would treat her the same if not worse if they left coke out that almost got their baby brother killed

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому

      If someone did coke around my baby and they ate it I might actually kill them. It’s unforgivable.

    • @5i.260
      @5i.260 Рік тому +4

      yeah well no shit. i wonder why????

  • @maja5554
    @maja5554 Рік тому +60

    Yes and thats the problem.
    Women are raised to never show anger and to sit still and be pretty and are told that its not lady like to show rage, they can shed a tear and be quiet but when they scream they're hysterical and crazy.
    It shouldnt be special or giving shivers to see female rage, it should be just as normal as a man is showing his anger.

  • @therealai777
    @therealai777 Рік тому +226

    Idk every time I’ve had genuine rage it has come out with screaming and borderline violence 💀 Rue is a good example of how I was in addiction

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +16

      i hope you’re doing well :))

    • @therealai777
      @therealai777 Рік тому +22

      @@savannahgrace05 I actually am, thank you! About a month ago I finished 7 months of rehab and I’ve maintained my sobriety ever since :)

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +9

      @@therealai777 that’s incredible!!! i’m proud of you, keep it up!

    • @abbaboobee
      @abbaboobee Рік тому

      @@therealai777 thats actually amazing, hope youre doing alright

    • @natalieimtooPRO
      @natalieimtooPRO 5 місяців тому

      @@therealai777 hope you're still doing well!

  • @ella-bm6gm
    @ella-bm6gm Рік тому +21

    i love how ironically calming female rage is. the way we’re no longer represented as repressed being of society but having natural feelings and reactions too, unapologetically

  • @bridgetbrennan6615
    @bridgetbrennan6615 Рік тому +41

    Emmy Rossum should’ve gotten an Emmy for her acting in Shameless.

  • @ticaragonzalez7344
    @ticaragonzalez7344 2 місяці тому +3

    my husband told me he wishes I was dead about two years ago and it still haunts me, I forgave him but I never forgot.

  • @anaisagostinho
    @anaisagostinho Рік тому +79

    Some Shows:
    Euphoria (series)
    Hidden Figures (movie)
    Shameless (series)
    Marriage Story (movie)
    Malcolm & Marie (movie)
    The hunger games (movies)

  • @j.elizabeth4621
    @j.elizabeth4621 Рік тому +34

    I'm a girl in my late 30s. I've been a film and tv addict my whole life -- life had other ideas for a while, but I'm on the path to making movies again. I've seen a lot of bad movies, and a lot of great movies! This video was really well edited and your use of background music was so well done. Women are so hard to portray because we're often a mystery to ourselves. It gets easier as you get older. The fear, anger and worry you feel in your 20s often turns to concern, trust in yourself, and love. I really like how you mixed the fear and anxiety of being a young women with mothers and mature women -- it's hard to transition between them, especially out of context. If you're in school for film or editing, you're doing a great job! This video shows you have a great understanding of it.

    • @savannahgrace05
      @savannahgrace05  Рік тому

      wow, thank you so much! this was my final project for a high school film literature class haha, but i am possibly considering film for my future

  • @s0lgem
    @s0lgem Рік тому +430

    while i like coquette-core, lana del rey's persona throughout her "born to die" and "ultraviolence" eras, and ethel cain's persona throughout her "preacher's daughter" story/album, and more femme-fatale characters i'm failing to mention... it's uncomfortable that we're classifying "feminine rage" into an aesthetic, continuing to make ourselves more easily digestible. we're also absolving ourselves of any uniqueness through this grand-scale relatability (online), and the hyper-specification of it all. nothing is original anymore.
    i'm so appreciative that intersectional feminism has shone light onto the deep-seated, overwhelming, suffocative rage that women harbor; driving the popularity of this aesthetic... but i also wish that mental illness in women-- triggered by the comprehension that this world isn't ruled nor made for us-- wasn't so sugar-coated, neatly packaged with flowers and frills. i think we choke on the bitterness of our rage enough, being stifled by the patriarchal systems that perpetually hinder our full autonomy.
    while it's relieving to unify with other women who resonate with this concept... i also think being an angry woman isn't something to admire, but something to fear. our ravenous hunger for power and the depth of our universal rage is just as ugly and terrifying as the men who planted it.
    i hope this makes sense. i'm just very torn on the subject.

    • @naomiwebb3268
      @naomiwebb3268 Рік тому +26

      I don’t have anything worthwhile to add to this discourse, I really really loved your comment and the way it articulated feelings about this I didn’t know how to express

    • @ZainabZehra786
      @ZainabZehra786 Рік тому +14

      Yes! I believe that when it comes to love, women do it better than men by literally submitting their everything into nurturing the thing they adore most. Hence, when it comes to hate and revenge, women take on this extreme evil level as they voluntarily dismiss their innate nature of caring and loving others to put on a persona that manipulates and tortures those they despise. And so, female rage is nothing to celebrate...in fact no gender's rage and anger should be made into an aesthetic! If you want to glamorize your temper issues, feel free to do so in an asylum with the rest of your kind.

    • @valikov2899
      @valikov2899 Рік тому +4

      Totally agree. Love this.

    • @amiya05
      @amiya05 Рік тому +9

      YES YES FINALLY!! i hope we can have female characters that are pure human and not just some subcategory of pretty styles that only include women who are convetnionally attractive.

    • @charlottefarrell9095
      @charlottefarrell9095 Рік тому +6

      very well put, I also had mixed feelings about this video and came to the comments looking for someone who could articulate what was bothering me. Rue having a relapse-fueled breakdown and railing against everyone she knows shouldn't be put in the same category as that iconic scene from hidden figures. One of those is a heartbreaking story about a drug addict and one is actually very relevant to the subject of the video. Just because Rue is a girl in a scene who is angry doesn't mean she should be here. Female rage is NOT an aesthetic and fetishizing it is just one more way we downplay and box in our very real, complicated emotions by making them safe, convenient, and well-trimmed.

  • @lilscooter93
    @lilscooter93 Рік тому +24

    i think the most chilling one was the clip at around the 3:00 mark where the guy yells "what is wrong with you?' and the woman goes "okay. bye." and walks away. like wait i need to know more about what is going on there!

    • @KetamineCoyote
      @KetamineCoyote Рік тому +5

      It's Cassie from euphoria
      In that scene Cassie f's nate Jacobs (the dude)
      Nate was her BEST FRIENDS horrid abusive, manipulative ex

  • @therapyandfolklore
    @therapyandfolklore Рік тому +10

    I read a quote that said "All women believe they are going insane"

  • @adrianacox4744
    @adrianacox4744 Рік тому +76

    I had al ways hated how female rage is represented, how in tough situations they would break and start crying looking for a man to handle the situation. I just love when women feel rage and handle it themselves whether they rage first then become cold, calculating or the other way around like it is for me I feel rage but I suppress it, I’m cold and calculating until I explode or perfectly execute my vengeance. It tests my patience to do that but the longest I’ve gone planning something is 6 years and counting the fall out will be epic.

    • @MrEvldreamr
      @MrEvldreamr Рік тому +1

      What films represent female rage like what you describe?

  • @angel_0025
    @angel_0025 3 місяці тому +2

    i think sydney sweeney portrayal and performance of just saying "ok. bye." was absolutely perfect for female rage. the red eyes after screaming and just everything about it

  • @scoutpark5230
    @scoutpark5230 Рік тому +909

    You know, a woman being angry doesn't always qualify as female rage. 😬

    • @femalegays
      @femalegays Рік тому +130

      why are you pointing that out like it's not obvious...............i swear people who always say normal things like this are so patronizing. duh, but there are beliefs and systems unfortunately put in place that tends to push women and other marginalized genders to a different type of rage. it's not a woman being angry, it's the circumstances behind why they're angry.

    • @arabellascomet
      @arabellascomet Рік тому

      @@femalegays thank you. people like that are very fucking annoying. 👏🏽

    • @temporaryfrustration
      @temporaryfrustration Рік тому +206

      I think anger isn't as extreme as rage in general.. like across genders.

    • @scoutpark5230
      @scoutpark5230 Рік тому +62

      @@temporaryfrustration I agree with you. but what I saw in the video was not "Female Rage". That implies that the emotion is caused by the patriarchy and it's influences. But in the video, from what I saw, the creator did not really use that criteria

    • @scoutpark5230
      @scoutpark5230 Рік тому +53

      Is Rue screaming at her drug dealer for not selling her drugs and trying to make the right choice really an example of "Female Rage"?

  • @lucy__v
    @lucy__v Рік тому +11

    Honestly I completely agree with female rage being empowering and something that should be accepted the same as male rage, but with abuse such as Rue's to Fez its not quite the same. Abuse and emotional manipulation is still abuse, regardless of gender. True equality is recognising that men and women should be able to openly feel and display their emotions, and these emotions should be accepted unless they are abusive and harmful.

    • @trafficklecone
      @trafficklecone Рік тому

      Yes don’t even watch euphoria but I was like ermmm nawt that scene

  • @TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen
    @TheRedRoseofJujutsuKaisen Рік тому +20

    Fiona is one of my favorite characters in Shameless because just like everybody else in the show. She’s a flaw human being who has done bad things and make mistakes. But at the same time she has every right to be angry and pissed off at the world. I remember when her mother spend all the money and almost got Carl killed. Fiona straight up loses it and yells out in frustration. You feel her angry towards her mother and how she can’t even leave her family for one day unless one of them starts trouble. Another best moment was when Fiona yells at Frank and made him cry.

  • @leilanidrennan1767
    @leilanidrennan1767 Рік тому +137

    Can people stoooop putting rue in these, just because she plays the angry emotion really well doesn't mean its a good depiction of female rage. She's an addict going through withdrawals and destroying the relationships around her because of it. Its abusive behavior, not "female rage"

    • @ryuko_wolf5874
      @ryuko_wolf5874 Рік тому +1

      It is tho she is hysterical??

    • @ryuko_wolf5874
      @ryuko_wolf5874 Рік тому +6

      Despite everything she's doing she still acknowledges that she isn't a very good person after all that's part of the concept u just don't get it

    • @zee-kat
      @zee-kat Рік тому +1

      yeah, it’s not rage. she’s just angry her drugs were thrown away

  • @sciencestuffs8978
    @sciencestuffs8978 Рік тому +315

    men love to raise their voices to intimidate women.

    • @newlchipson2900
      @newlchipson2900 Рік тому +22

      To intimidate women or to release their anger by shouting like a normal human? No doubt what you mentioned happens a lot, and those people are obviously pieces of sht, but I would have thought most people are normal and not sadistic little rats

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому

      @@newlchipson2900 you shouldn’t release anger at others. Men don’t understand their emotions or how to not let their emotions control them. They are sadistic little rats. Yelling at people when not in danger is not normal. It’s unhealthy.

    • @newlchipson2900
      @newlchipson2900 Рік тому +2

      @@spacebar9733 what you said, respectfully, makes no sense, to the point that I think you're trolling.
      I guess aside from the first sentence, which I can agree with, not in all cases though.

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому +19

      @@newlchipson2900 im serious. its a product of the patriarchy. you can tell someone youre angry at them and why. but them making you angry isnt enough to justify yelling, hitting (a wall or other), manipulating, being mean, etc. that stuff is unnecessary and it doesnt help the situation. it causes escalation. and you can google it if you wanna !

    • @newlchipson2900
      @newlchipson2900 Рік тому +4

      @@spacebar9733 you said some weird stuff about men that obviously isn't true, I'm assuming you don't actually believe that. But I agree with you on anger not solving much of anything, it's better to try to keep it subdued and explain without raising your voice why you are upset with the person. But that right there, is not reality, that is not how emotions work. These real, raw and intense emotions that might bubble up in an argument are very natural, and both genders are guilty of these things. I agree that shouting can of course escalate to violence, which is awful, and done by complete pos

  • @Angel_777-oz7nn
    @Angel_777-oz7nn Місяць тому +1

    Rage is an emotion everyone can go through, in these clips these women are literally going through something important in their life to cause them to rage and break because of it. Everyone rages based on the situation or trauma, not the gender.

  • @franciscamoya42
    @franciscamoya42 Рік тому +71

    I recommend if you want to do another compilation, to add a scene of the movie: "Relatos Salvajes" (Damian Szifron), in the movie there is a story about a bride who founds out in her wedding day that ther husband is cheating with a guest at the party, and she goes on a crazy rage, and its over the top, but also realistic. Great video!

  • @requiemforanali
    @requiemforanali Рік тому +22

    fiona and katniss omg im literally bawling

  • @HoneyM1lkart
    @HoneyM1lkart Рік тому +6

    "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU"
    "ok."
    Chills

  • @annible883
    @annible883 7 місяців тому +7

    fiona gallagher is such a great character i love her sm

  • @sugarblossem824
    @sugarblossem824 Рік тому +12

    RIP Angus 😢

  • @user-li4qq4hw6d
    @user-li4qq4hw6d Рік тому +12

    I would argue that the biggest difference between male and female rage is that male rage is often portrayed as pure rage while female rage is often indulged with other emotions such as sadness or grief that the rage comes with. Its portrayed the way that when female gets mad most of the time they would end up crying.
    This is another angle to the discussion as I agreed that we often see female rage is repressed and not explosive as men. However, to decide whether the representation is correct or not, I would say it wouldnt conclude with a white and black answer since it is true that female does have the societal pressure to repressed their anger and control their emotions better than men. But it would be nice to see a representation where the female character does not hold back and follows their instinct on the spot instead of taking revenge later on.

  • @august1334
    @august1334 Рік тому +7

    I just love the intensity of emotions. The depths of emotional hurts.

  • @savannahgrace05
    @savannahgrace05  Рік тому +26

    hi! i definitely did not expect this video to be seen by so many people haha. i made this video for the final project in my film lit class for which we had to create our own “short film.”
    i elaborate on my choices for the video in the description, but to clear up some confusion, i put in those scenes with men (nate, lip, etc.) to contrast their portrayals to the women’s.
    i love reading your thoughts and discussions! thank you!

  • @justgotserious9124
    @justgotserious9124 Рік тому +15

    That scene with Taraji still gets. I felt so angry watching that scene the first time. On a side note, fu Lip, Fiona deserved so much better.

  • @icebiirb9440
    @icebiirb9440 Рік тому +49

    tbh the only accutate portrayal is neytiri after her son dies :///

  • @BreeTanner-jo7qd
    @BreeTanner-jo7qd 7 місяців тому +5

    Men's rage is terrifying because how they express it is by hitting stuff, breaking things or even hurting people, and it's caused by deep-down depression. Women's anger is terrifying as well, yet it was caused by passion, pain, and they expressed it by yelling.

    • @Melodys.Bookshelf
      @Melodys.Bookshelf 7 місяців тому

      And women’s is bottled up so much that we break down and hurt the ones we love most

    • @thecollector4574
      @thecollector4574 4 місяці тому +1

      Or vice versa. Everyone’s different

  • @6ixConfessions
    @6ixConfessions Рік тому +8

    It's the calm rage you should really be afraid of.

  • @hilton_chloe.e
    @hilton_chloe.e 7 місяців тому +1

    I’m not allowed to yell, scream, argue back, it’s so frustrating, it hurts so much

  • @loonyhype9527
    @loonyhype9527 Рік тому +5

    Anyone ever been so enraged by someone’s actions that you imagine hurting them like a rag doll? With the screams and all? It actually calms me down for instance.

  • @ilovetruffles99
    @ilovetruffles99 Рік тому +9

    Realistic female anger is often red-faced tears and silence because we e been conditioned to be quiet our whole lives. I don’t know many women who yell. But I know a LOT of women who get quiet and slowly release their anger over YEARS. Because an “angry woman” is still not taken seriously and is often classified as “hysterical” or “on your period” or “emotional.”
    This is what’s crazy about that argument that everything will be better when men can finally “be allowed” to be emotional. It’s BOTH genders that need to allow themselves to feel and express more and in healthy ways. Women are allowed to cry, yes, but there’s a line in there that keeps us from crying too much.
    Because if we cry too much, we get less respect. So this “screaming rage” I’ve only seen happen a few times with women. It’s more likely to be quiet rage slowly coming out in petty ways over years while men hold all their emotions down so far they don’t know how to be angry anymore, they only know how to disappear and then explode when they get shook up too much.

    • @ryuko_wolf5874
      @ryuko_wolf5874 Рік тому +3

      There's no truly realistic way of rage people rage however they want scream ,hit, kick, throw ,women aren't just crying they do rage immensely

  • @redm00nproductions
    @redm00nproductions 3 місяці тому +2

    So glad Katniss’s clip was added in here

  • @lotteryorcarcrash
    @lotteryorcarcrash Рік тому +7

    and i fucking hate that even when we’re angry too we’re still the ones who calm down first and end up comforting the guy and acting like their mothers cant they give Us a fucking break. and guys dont even have periods ffs we should be given more slack when we’re furious or angry or emotional

  • @AthosFutebolClube
    @AthosFutebolClube 2 місяці тому +1

    I’m so happy to see such lovely people here. Keep spreading the love!

  • @actuallyAtlas1989
    @actuallyAtlas1989 Рік тому +16

    Hidden Figures was so good!!

  • @LonnieBhi
    @LonnieBhi 9 місяців тому +3

    0:34 How all moms feel

  • @brynnagrace-
    @brynnagrace- Рік тому +4

    Why is this comforting?

  • @Usernotfound465
    @Usernotfound465 Рік тому +71

    I love being a woman

    • @brandonlamb9067
      @brandonlamb9067 Рік тому +1

      I'm sure you do

    • @elliotp23
      @elliotp23 Рік тому +1

      @@brandonlamb9067 I hate being a woman

    • @brandonlamb9067
      @brandonlamb9067 Рік тому +6

      @@elliotp23 Well good luck I guess. Hope it works out

    • @spacebar9733
      @spacebar9733 Рік тому +6

      Me too

    • @nicolec8884
      @nicolec8884 9 місяців тому

      Sometimes I like being a woman and sometimes I want to be non binary.

  • @Deadcops
    @Deadcops Рік тому +27

    I will always be angry for what they did. My anger eats me alive and I try hard to not feel it but it’s my entire being. I don’t want to be hateful but I am so hateful and angry.

    • @lukakaaiakamanu8371
      @lukakaaiakamanu8371 Рік тому +6

      Vent it out somewhere safe. Shoving it down will prob end up with you doing something youll feel extremely bad abt for a long time. You could write in a journal, punch a bag or a pilliow, scream, go to a dump and just destroy shit. Igwym though, its hard when you hate the feeling of being angry.

    • @Deadcops
      @Deadcops Рік тому +6

      @@lukakaaiakamanu8371 thank you. Truly thank you. I try to journal and it does help but the idea ab going to a dump is great I’m gonna try that. Thank you and I’m sorry you know the feeling, we will be okay!

  • @tomie1658
    @tomie1658 Рік тому +3

    no ever likes being angry ,there just so tired the just want people to understand them,they just want to be happy and that comes to everyone and yes some will denied that there is something wrong or there just scared to say it

  • @8rynFarley
    @8rynFarley Рік тому +8

    midsommar should be added to this

  • @Limabeans-hk1on
    @Limabeans-hk1on 2 місяці тому +1

    The hidden figure lady always gives me chills

  • @Harperthefoodprincess
    @Harperthefoodprincess 3 місяці тому +1

    The fact that I started laughing when Nate showed twice…😂

  • @MaryPayne-ke6hu
    @MaryPayne-ke6hu 4 місяці тому +1

    my favorite part was when all of the women were composed at the end of exploding, whereas all the men broke down and threw tantrums

  • @firegirl1901
    @firegirl1901 Рік тому +6

    Nates tantrumn was.......somthing else.

  • @wellthisisinteresting4912
    @wellthisisinteresting4912 Рік тому +7

    Fiona is one of my favourite characters of all time

  • @elynchoudhry2466
    @elynchoudhry2466 6 місяців тому +2

    I just wanted to note that in the clips the females rage is caused by a buildup of anger and moments that they have been forced to supress, thats why their so angry. Sociaey often forces women to supress our anger so we are not portrayed as hysterical or emotional, but often we reach braking points and i think actual rage should be protrayed more in woman in meda, not the kinda of supressed, calculated rage that pple have been calling female rage.

  • @yuarentlucky
    @yuarentlucky Місяць тому

    Hunger games has the best written rage I've seen honestly, catching fire was amazing.

  • @jaredcastorarcenas6283
    @jaredcastorarcenas6283 Рік тому +12

    Where's Game of Thrones, Westworld, Succession, and House of the Dragon?

  • @brittanygreen127
    @brittanygreen127 Рік тому +22

    would you be cool with a vid inspired by this concept? like just a continuation with more depictions.

  • @KewlGrandma
    @KewlGrandma Рік тому +12

    Am I the only one confused why Nate Jacobs is in this compilation?

    • @rvmovieguy
      @rvmovieguy Рік тому +2

      Apparently to compare male and female rage ig

    • @-carkey-9812
      @-carkey-9812 5 місяців тому

      Cause of Cassie’s reaction

  • @MinerKitten
    @MinerKitten Рік тому +1

    the way i started crying while watching this

  • @kiananicole5089
    @kiananicole5089 Місяць тому +4

    WHY ARE MEN HEREEEE

  • @bellavasquez481
    @bellavasquez481 6 місяців тому +3

    Why does the portrayal of female rage include nate jacobs?

  • @kerrid5717
    @kerrid5717 Рік тому +2

    “female rage”
    **AND ITS NATE JACOBS**

  • @ironicwonderland9891
    @ironicwonderland9891 4 місяці тому

    the "Ok, bye" got me. Thats me when the rage comes full circle. I'm so full of rage I'm calm. All men can do is punch a hole in dry wall.

  • @clearhero7487
    @clearhero7487 Рік тому +4

    What’s wrong with me? I’ve been too nice for too damn long.

  • @amaliasuescun583
    @amaliasuescun583 10 місяців тому

    When Cassie says “ok, bye😃” the face of Nate just goes from mad to scared in one second

  • @rubychristner1372
    @rubychristner1372 Рік тому +8

    I love how they added Nate jacobs into it

  • @luvvsickangel
    @luvvsickangel Рік тому +1

    clicked for mommy fiona, stayed for the video

  • @SarahBurke-hv6my
    @SarahBurke-hv6my 11 місяців тому +1

    Am i the only one who sees fiona Gallaghers anger as not really female rage, but that of the mentally exhausted first born. Like i can imagine the exact same thing happening to lip and ian had they been born first. Especially ian.

  • @whenimetyouinthesumma
    @whenimetyouinthesumma Рік тому +1

    In my opinion, Male rage is not just anger it can be any other things, it's not just women.
    Please do not hate on this comment I do not mean to be disrespectful in any way this is just how I think and my opinions.💜

  • @topazdoodles1877
    @topazdoodles1877 Рік тому +2

    I love this compilation

  • @flux0706
    @flux0706 Рік тому +2

    "okay. bye."

  • @mckinzeyboyd2844
    @mckinzeyboyd2844 Рік тому +6

    Lip is such an asshole for years Fiona raised them, clothed them, and kept a roof over there head. She always put their wants and need before hers. And the moment she needs them on a mistake she made they all turn their backs and blame her SMH that’s not fair .

    • @shumishu6019
      @shumishu6019 Рік тому +1

      She almost killed their brother?

    • @coopays
      @coopays 6 місяців тому

      i mean yeah leaving coke out and almost killing ur baby brother is a pretty valid reason to be pissed off at her

  • @DeadricDeadggory
    @DeadricDeadggory 2 місяці тому +1

    Okay but sydney's was genuinely TERRIFYING

  • @SYM-BIONIC
    @SYM-BIONIC Рік тому +5

    I feel that the way we women express rage is stems from the way we are raised. We are taught to stay composed and not result to physical anger or physical anything. We are pushed away from things like fighting and sports yet people wonder why girls don't try in gym class. It's because we were taught that wasn't for us, that we should just watch from the sidelines and shouldn't take action. We have been deterred and discouraged from engaging in anything like that, that many figure what's the point? We will he ridiculed whether we try or not? Men expect us to not try but get mad when we don't. Doesn't make sense.
    In addition to this, because we are discouraged from expressing anger physically we have found a way to navigate it pyschologically. Instead of physical warfare, punching holes in walls, throwing tantrums, hitting, it's pyschological. Playing mind games, trapping our enemies in impossible mazes and just generally using our brains to get what we want. From and early age we've had to be intelligent in the ways of seduction and enticement. We've had to figure out to get what we want without getting it ourselves because we've been taught not to. Girls continue to see on TV that when you're pretty and when your this and that and play mind games you can get what you want so the grow up thinking that's the way to live. Instead of getting angry physically we've had to figure out a way to express anger and get revenge mentally and that's something men are speaking about more and more.
    They get angry and throw a tantrum on the floor like Nate or punch a whole in the wall or fight someone. They are allowed to act a fool and us women are taught to be caretakers and comfort and console them after they calm down. This leads to women being in abusive relationships thinking it's her job to take care of the man and it's okay if he hits me or act a fool cuz he's a guy and that's what they do. That was demonstrated in the Scarjo film.
    Ontop of it all we are always silenced and interuppted to the point where we often choose not speak at all. But are always thinking.
    Not all women are like this since everyone is different. I myself am a tomboy in both appearance, personality and mentality and over the years have been developing a more masculine and simpler outlook and reaction to things but I still understand the depth behind why women are the wat we are and still share the same trauma even if I might more incline to hit or break something rather than play games.
    All in all, there are multiple factors for how we express rage and this video only showed a little piece of that. I pray that going further into the future we can raise both our daughters and sons to more healthily express rage. Give them equal opportunity to express it both mentally and physically. When you get mad and want to hit something there is nothing wrong with that but it's important we give the resources needed to channel that into something say a sport for example. Give them a punching bag or large stuffed animal. Raise future generations of girls so that they won't have to play pyschological warfare or anyone else or themselves. If we do this going forward we can surely turn things around.

  • @catlover1039
    @catlover1039 Рік тому +1

    Me writing a book to let out all my female rage

  • @mari55587
    @mari55587 Рік тому

    That rage is inside of every woman it is no't an exaple thing what you learn it's God given rage, it floods

  • @bettyb00p237
    @bettyb00p237 Рік тому +1

    “Portrayal of Female Rage”
    *inserts clip of Nate n his Poppa*
    😲…😆…🫣….🤣

  • @sarah31547
    @sarah31547 Рік тому

    That hidden figures scene tho>>>>>

  • @Bbrrbbrrbarabra
    @Bbrrbbrrbarabra 16 днів тому

    I think true feminity isn't actually real, because many woman have different lifestyles and cultures, perspectives, conditions, etc, Lana music is obviously targeted towards woman, but she isn't the peak of feminity bc every girl happens to live a different kind of feminity which may be very more like lana del rey music or may not too, and all of them are valid, sorry if my comment might sound offensive it's not my intention, i'm a woman and i don't relate a lot with lana music even though i like listening to her, she's lovely, i just came with this observation with the description, anyways, i loved your video!

  • @BlowUpTheOutsideWorld
    @BlowUpTheOutsideWorld Рік тому +19

    Anya Taylor-Joy pronounced the words "female rage"... Suddenly y'all started making female rage edits?

    • @thiskid990
      @thiskid990 Рік тому +6

      hey beats those goofy 12 second alpha male comps

    • @ryuko_wolf5874
      @ryuko_wolf5874 Рік тому +2

      Female rage was talked about way before the menu interview came out you'd know but u don't

  • @rawrrawraaaaa
    @rawrrawraaaaa Рік тому +1

    portrayal of female rage (insert nate jacobs)

  • @ixkumori
    @ixkumori Рік тому

    Just saw this on my recs, clicked. Second damn scene and im sobbing, rip fezco (angus)