y’all are missing the point. women never get to be angry. we always have to be prim and professional. this is showing how powerful it can be when we say scream, something we’re judged to do, something we’re repressed from doing. like the entire point is that our emotions are powerful because we women are deep. we’re not shallow we’re not quiet. we can be loud.
@bellahawthorne4228whenever males are angry nobody bats an eye, they think it’s just them being them, but when women do it we are perceived as dramatic, throwing a tantrum, being a bitch, being a brat, being stupid, overdoing it, being annoying, everyone calls us crazy, and gaslights us, because we can’t show emotion and they are so used to us agreeing.
@@hcneymoonanger is one of the only emotions that's socially acceptable for men to have. We are taught not to cry because it shows weakness. Women can't be angry without being labeled difficult or a bitch and men can't be sad without being seen as weak or a pussy.
Fiona, since season 1, has always had the best anger moment/ acting skills, Emmy (the actress) is so great at portraying anger, the face expression, shameless has so many great actors but Fiona’s anger scenes were always ground breaking
She deserved so much better and I’m still mad Frank didn’t mention her name on his farewell letter. I replayed the ending many times thinking I just missed it but she was snubbed.
For some reason the scene at 2:57 stuck to me. Just the sheer, held back rage she had to smile and walk away. You know she's livid inside but not letting it out, the bitterness just drips out. This is how I commonly see women show anger. Not in screaming, not hysterically. But held back so tightly it seeps through the cracks as bitterness
Cassie wasn't holding back her rage lol. She was having an episode. She desperately needs psychiatric help. She was screaming hysterically moments before this clip hahahaha, he just met her energy and she didn't like it.
sydney sweeney deserved an emmy for her euphoria performance. she and zendaya carried this season on their backs single-handedly and i hate that sydney isn’t getting enough credit.
it's because people (imo somewhat unfairly) hate Sydney's character too much. When they see Cassie screaming and getting angry, whether she's wrong or right in the situation they call her crazy and overdramatic, not looking at why she's so mad or her side of the story. They have sympathy for Rue, they understand her anger, even if they don't agree with her actions or opinions, and so they praise Zendaya's acting. If they understood Cassie's performance a little more she'd definitely have a few awards under her name, and I hope once the series progresses and Cassie develops, more people will appreciate Sydney.
@@sadie6094 real omfg i wish people would just be more understanding towards cassie overall. she is suffering just as much as rue because of her addiction to male validation and she needs serious help and i hate that the fans of the show aren’t extending the curtesy we give rue, to cassie.
If you watched this compilation and didn't think most of these were tantrums perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word. These are quite literally tantrums.
Half of these are tantrums. But Fiona almost killed her brother. Lip has the right to be angry. And Nate still sucks but he was upset with his father for traumatizing him which is still valid. The rest by the men are tantrums I think.
It's because women are conditioned to hold in their anger or else they're seen as dramatic, hysterical and crazy even if it's completely valid, eventually it inevitably reaches a boiling point and explodes, which makes women more dangerous and unpredictable because they don't hold back at that point (in my opinion). I don't know if half of these scenes portray that, but that's just how it is based on my experience.
Literally only one was a tantrum. Everyone else were expressing raw emotion. None of you know anything you're talking about. Lol You only said that to invalidate male anger.
@@elliefitch112 If women were to express anger and hurt the way men did, we would either get no society or they would be killed in drove. And let's not forget that hysteria was a fake illness invented by men so women can't express everything like in the movie
I kinda disagree because to me it's more realistic to see a woman scream in anger but most people don't see it as anger they just see it as "being crazy" or "being emotional" so they don't often recognize it as anger. I honestly hate when movies and shows show women raging in silence and you saying it is more realistic kinda just pushes more into the fact that letting it out is "being crazy" or "emotional" when it isn't.
There’s a lot of comments on how the women in these clips are embarrassing themselves or setting a bad example for teenage girls watching these clips, but I don’t really think that’s the point of female rage. While there are stories that depict the world as we want to see it, these stories are more about depicting the world as it is. Women get angry, and it’s not always pretty. Sometimes it’s downright ugly. I think the reason it’s focused on here is that women generally aren’t allowed to rage. We’ll get criticized for our anger, and people will refuse to take us seriously unless we channel our feelings in socially acceptable ways. In my experience, I don’t know how much raging would’ve helped me as an angry and depressed teenage girl. But I wish I could go back in time to tell her it was okay to not be okay, that I didn’t have to be who everyone wanted me to be, that I could find an outlet for everything I was feeling. Regardless of gender, I’m willing to bet I’m not the only one.
i’m trying to tell myself that now. since my brother passed, i’ve always felt like i was supposed to be okay (i was 12 when he passed). whenever i would say that i wasn’t okay, i would get yelled at, or told “stop using your brother as an excuse”. so now i just stick to “i’m fine” to spare myself from that. i’m still trying to learn how deal with my emotions as a 16 year old.
I mean- it’s “rage”😅 What did people expect? A well composed lady, sitting down making a 5 point argument abt all the emotions she was feeling?? There’s often hardly any rhyme or reason in ACTUAL rage
My ex would push me to the point of screaming like a banchee. Then he’d immediately look me in the eyes and be like, “what’re you yelling for?🤨”. Like mf idk, maybe because you’re INSUFFERABLE??????!!!! And then he’d act all holier than thou bc he was “containing his anger” and I wasn’t. Even though he was expressing it through his ego and spiteful tongue.
In my experience, a lot of men don't view their own anger as a problem, because it's culturally accepted for men to show that explosive rage. When women display the same set of emotions, they're "crazy".
For Fiona, although Fiona was Liam's guardian, at the end of the day there were 4-5 other adults present when that happen to Liam, and every last one of them should have kept an eye on Liam when he was there. I feel like Fiona shouldn’t have been fully blamed when other adults were present during that time. Even though they were not Liam's guardians they were still adults so at least one of the adults should have paid attention to a toddler that was there ...
And they all collectively looked after him. Hated that they fully blamed her like that. Like they don’t want her to parent them but when something goes wrong it’s her fault
So true!! I never thought about it like that. Legally, yes Fiona was Liam’s guardian, but as a household and family they shared joint responsibility, including Kev and Veronica!
maybe im wrong but a lot of what Fiona did was things that in turn hurt not only her but her family, while what the others did were stuff that mostly affected them individually she didn’t have to take care of them she chose to like when debs got pregnant Fiona refused to help her but debs wanted support and love and had to kinda do it alone and Fiona’s breakdowns were always about situations she got herself into like dumb dating dumb immature men who got her into trouble and everyone always had to support her no questions asked even tho it was her choices that got her there
legally it is fionas fault bc she is more liable because it was her drugs and she was the legal care provider for liam it also happened on her property. tho i do agree someone should have been watching him
OK I swear the thing that pisses me off the most is that Fiona gave up so much to take care of them and every time the smallest thing happened they would blame her but then always come back expecting her to like fully take care of them all over again as if they hadn’t done anything wrong. Like whenever she makes like one small mistake,even though everyone around her makes the biggest mistakes, they all take it out on her as if it’s always her fault and they never take responsibility for their own actions
Liam almost dying from a drug overdose @ the age of 3 was a small little thing (she was the one responsible for him when it happened) My thing with Fiona was she had every right to make it all about her like you said she was always giving up so much for the rest of her family (i mean I think they all did to make life liveable in that fd up place) she (as with everyone else) was/were always amazing at protecting and attacking when anyone went after her family but the one time it was supposed to be about her she seemed to show what the show had Been saying since episode 1, and that’s the Gallagher’s are amazing when they all have the same goals, mindset, objectives , etc. Only problem is she was only thinking about clearing her name and making sure she wasn’t going to jail/prison
Yes and thats the problem. Women are raised to never show anger and to sit still and be pretty and are told that its not lady like to show rage, they can shed a tear and be quiet but when they scream they're hysterical and crazy. It shouldnt be special or giving shivers to see female rage, it should be just as normal as a man is showing his anger.
fiona deserved better they keep forgetting she isn't their mother she is tehri sister and she gave more than she should the least they can do if they ain't gonna have her back is stfu lip always judges her yet he fcked up his life in all ways
@@boop99 Exactly. Not only that, but she was fully considering to go to trial and plead Not Guilty, which would result in her getting 5 years in prison and it's risk she's willing to take, all because "iT wAs An AcCiDeNt".
I think the most realistic form of rage in this video was cathrine. She had to put up with so much of racism and hatred from her white co workers, and it was all because they didn’t want a smart block woman working with them. She honestly deserved to go off on them like that. I’m also saying this cause this was the only film I actually watched from this video 🤣
i think the most chilling one was the clip at around the 3:00 mark where the guy yells "what is wrong with you?' and the woman goes "okay. bye." and walks away. like wait i need to know more about what is going on there!
i love how ironically calming female rage is. the way we’re no longer represented as repressed being of society but having natural feelings and reactions too, unapologetically
i think sydney sweeney portrayal and performance of just saying "ok. bye." was absolutely perfect for female rage. the red eyes after screaming and just everything about it
I'm a girl in my late 30s. I've been a film and tv addict my whole life -- life had other ideas for a while, but I'm on the path to making movies again. I've seen a lot of bad movies, and a lot of great movies! This video was really well edited and your use of background music was so well done. Women are so hard to portray because we're often a mystery to ourselves. It gets easier as you get older. The fear, anger and worry you feel in your 20s often turns to concern, trust in yourself, and love. I really like how you mixed the fear and anxiety of being a young women with mothers and mature women -- it's hard to transition between them, especially out of context. If you're in school for film or editing, you're doing a great job! This video shows you have a great understanding of it.
I had al ways hated how female rage is represented, how in tough situations they would break and start crying looking for a man to handle the situation. I just love when women feel rage and handle it themselves whether they rage first then become cold, calculating or the other way around like it is for me I feel rage but I suppress it, I’m cold and calculating until I explode or perfectly execute my vengeance. It tests my patience to do that but the longest I’ve gone planning something is 6 years and counting the fall out will be epic.
while i like coquette-core, lana del rey's persona throughout her "born to die" and "ultraviolence" eras, and ethel cain's persona throughout her "preacher's daughter" story/album, and more femme-fatale characters i'm failing to mention... it's uncomfortable that we're classifying "feminine rage" into an aesthetic, continuing to make ourselves more easily digestible. we're also absolving ourselves of any uniqueness through this grand-scale relatability (online), and the hyper-specification of it all. nothing is original anymore. i'm so appreciative that intersectional feminism has shone light onto the deep-seated, overwhelming, suffocative rage that women harbor; driving the popularity of this aesthetic... but i also wish that mental illness in women-- triggered by the comprehension that this world isn't ruled nor made for us-- wasn't so sugar-coated, neatly packaged with flowers and frills. i think we choke on the bitterness of our rage enough, being stifled by the patriarchal systems that perpetually hinder our full autonomy. while it's relieving to unify with other women who resonate with this concept... i also think being an angry woman isn't something to admire, but something to fear. our ravenous hunger for power and the depth of our universal rage is just as ugly and terrifying as the men who planted it. i hope this makes sense. i'm just very torn on the subject.
I don’t have anything worthwhile to add to this discourse, I really really loved your comment and the way it articulated feelings about this I didn’t know how to express
Yes! I believe that when it comes to love, women do it better than men by literally submitting their everything into nurturing the thing they adore most. Hence, when it comes to hate and revenge, women take on this extreme evil level as they voluntarily dismiss their innate nature of caring and loving others to put on a persona that manipulates and tortures those they despise. And so, female rage is nothing to celebrate...in fact no gender's rage and anger should be made into an aesthetic! If you want to glamorize your temper issues, feel free to do so in an asylum with the rest of your kind.
YES YES FINALLY!! i hope we can have female characters that are pure human and not just some subcategory of pretty styles that only include women who are convetnionally attractive.
very well put, I also had mixed feelings about this video and came to the comments looking for someone who could articulate what was bothering me. Rue having a relapse-fueled breakdown and railing against everyone she knows shouldn't be put in the same category as that iconic scene from hidden figures. One of those is a heartbreaking story about a drug addict and one is actually very relevant to the subject of the video. Just because Rue is a girl in a scene who is angry doesn't mean she should be here. Female rage is NOT an aesthetic and fetishizing it is just one more way we downplay and box in our very real, complicated emotions by making them safe, convenient, and well-trimmed.
Fiona is one of my favorite characters in Shameless because just like everybody else in the show. She’s a flaw human being who has done bad things and make mistakes. But at the same time she has every right to be angry and pissed off at the world. I remember when her mother spend all the money and almost got Carl killed. Fiona straight up loses it and yells out in frustration. You feel her angry towards her mother and how she can’t even leave her family for one day unless one of them starts trouble. Another best moment was when Fiona yells at Frank and made him cry.
2:58 brought me back to a place i thought i left. i was cassie at some point and nate was my father. there is something so deep about that performance that felt so raw and pure. ive never seen the show, so i dont have the full context, if im wrong, please correct me. either way, sydney sweeney deserves an emmy.
It’s so unfair that a woman being upset and having emotions has such a negative outlook where when men are mad they’re allowed to scream and cry and have a tantrum. Women always have to apologise for having human emotions and not fitting in to EVERYONES expectations. We are human too, it’s not fair
Men's rage is terrifying because how they express it is by hitting stuff, breaking things or even hurting people, and it's caused by deep-down depression. Women's anger is terrifying as well, yet it was caused by passion, pain, and they expressed it by yelling.
I would argue that the biggest difference between male and female rage is that male rage is often portrayed as pure rage while female rage is often indulged with other emotions such as sadness or grief that the rage comes with. Its portrayed the way that when female gets mad most of the time they would end up crying. This is another angle to the discussion as I agreed that we often see female rage is repressed and not explosive as men. However, to decide whether the representation is correct or not, I would say it wouldnt conclude with a white and black answer since it is true that female does have the societal pressure to repressed their anger and control their emotions better than men. But it would be nice to see a representation where the female character does not hold back and follows their instinct on the spot instead of taking revenge later on.
Rage is an emotion everyone can go through, in these clips these women are literally going through something important in their life to cause them to rage and break because of it. Everyone rages based on the situation or trauma, not the gender.
Honestly I completely agree with female rage being empowering and something that should be accepted the same as male rage, but with abuse such as Rue's to Fez its not quite the same. Abuse and emotional manipulation is still abuse, regardless of gender. True equality is recognising that men and women should be able to openly feel and display their emotions, and these emotions should be accepted unless they are abusive and harmful.
Yep but unfortunately boys often show their emotions in an abusive and harmful way. And ik society doesn't allow them to show emotion but then it isn't male rage, it's just not being able to show your emotions properly. So it's a whole bigger thing. Which btw I would like to add that if men started supporting feminism they'd know that feminism is literally making the world a better place for them too. And until they do that, I don't think theyd be able to show their emotions.
Anyone ever been so enraged by someone’s actions that you imagine hurting them like a rag doll? With the screams and all? It actually calms me down for instance.
and i fucking hate that even when we’re angry too we’re still the ones who calm down first and end up comforting the guy and acting like their mothers cant they give Us a fucking break. and guys dont even have periods ffs we should be given more slack when we’re furious or angry or emotional
I recommend if you want to do another compilation, to add a scene of the movie: "Relatos Salvajes" (Damian Szifron), in the movie there is a story about a bride who founds out in her wedding day that ther husband is cheating with a guest at the party, and she goes on a crazy rage, and its over the top, but also realistic. Great video!
hi! i definitely did not expect this video to be seen by so many people haha. i made this video for the final project in my film lit class for which we had to create our own “short film.” i elaborate on my choices for the video in the description, but to clear up some confusion, i put in those scenes with men (nate, lip, etc.) to contrast their portrayals to the women’s. i love reading your thoughts and discussions! thank you!
why are you pointing that out like it's not obvious...............i swear people who always say normal things like this are so patronizing. duh, but there are beliefs and systems unfortunately put in place that tends to push women and other marginalized genders to a different type of rage. it's not a woman being angry, it's the circumstances behind why they're angry.
@@temporaryfrustration I agree with you. but what I saw in the video was not "Female Rage". That implies that the emotion is caused by the patriarchy and it's influences. But in the video, from what I saw, the creator did not really use that criteria
To intimidate women or to release their anger by shouting like a normal human? No doubt what you mentioned happens a lot, and those people are obviously pieces of sht, but I would have thought most people are normal and not sadistic little rats
@@newlchipson2900 you shouldn’t release anger at others. Men don’t understand their emotions or how to not let their emotions control them. They are sadistic little rats. Yelling at people when not in danger is not normal. It’s unhealthy.
@@LowSlungBadBitch what you said, respectfully, makes no sense, to the point that I think you're trolling. I guess aside from the first sentence, which I can agree with, not in all cases though.
@@newlchipson2900 im serious. its a product of the patriarchy. you can tell someone youre angry at them and why. but them making you angry isnt enough to justify yelling, hitting (a wall or other), manipulating, being mean, etc. that stuff is unnecessary and it doesnt help the situation. it causes escalation. and you can google it if you wanna !
@@LowSlungBadBitch you said some weird stuff about men that obviously isn't true, I'm assuming you don't actually believe that. But I agree with you on anger not solving much of anything, it's better to try to keep it subdued and explain without raising your voice why you are upset with the person. But that right there, is not reality, that is not how emotions work. These real, raw and intense emotions that might bubble up in an argument are very natural, and both genders are guilty of these things. I agree that shouting can of course escalate to violence, which is awful, and done by complete pos
no ever likes being angry ,there just so tired the just want people to understand them,they just want to be happy and that comes to everyone and yes some will denied that there is something wrong or there just scared to say it
Can people stoooop putting rue in these, just because she plays the angry emotion really well doesn't mean its a good depiction of female rage. She's an addict going through withdrawals and destroying the relationships around her because of it. Its abusive behavior, not "female rage"
Realistic female anger is often red-faced tears and silence because we e been conditioned to be quiet our whole lives. I don’t know many women who yell. But I know a LOT of women who get quiet and slowly release their anger over YEARS. Because an “angry woman” is still not taken seriously and is often classified as “hysterical” or “on your period” or “emotional.” This is what’s crazy about that argument that everything will be better when men can finally “be allowed” to be emotional. It’s BOTH genders that need to allow themselves to feel and express more and in healthy ways. Women are allowed to cry, yes, but there’s a line in there that keeps us from crying too much. Because if we cry too much, we get less respect. So this “screaming rage” I’ve only seen happen a few times with women. It’s more likely to be quiet rage slowly coming out in petty ways over years while men hold all their emotions down so far they don’t know how to be angry anymore, they only know how to disappear and then explode when they get shook up too much.
I just wanted to note that in the clips the females rage is caused by a buildup of anger and moments that they have been forced to supress, thats why their so angry. Sociaey often forces women to supress our anger so we are not portrayed as hysterical or emotional, but often we reach braking points and i think actual rage should be protrayed more in woman in meda, not the kinda of supressed, calculated rage that pple have been calling female rage.
The thing about fiona is i love how he got mad at her because if she went to jail he would have to drop out of school to take care of everyone it had nothing to do about liam, but that is exactly what fiona had to do and when she was alot younger then him they always blame fiona for everything but she did not ask to become a parent when she was barely even a teenager yet she stepped up and tried her best to give them the best life but no matter what she does she is in the wrong she is trying her best she is so stressed out and she is barely older then a lot of them yet they blame her for every bad thing that happens
I will always be angry for what they did. My anger eats me alive and I try hard to not feel it but it’s my entire being. I don’t want to be hateful but I am so hateful and angry.
Vent it out somewhere safe. Shoving it down will prob end up with you doing something youll feel extremely bad abt for a long time. You could write in a journal, punch a bag or a pilliow, scream, go to a dump and just destroy shit. Igwym though, its hard when you hate the feeling of being angry.
@@lukakaaiakamanu8371 thank you. Truly thank you. I try to journal and it does help but the idea ab going to a dump is great I’m gonna try that. Thank you and I’m sorry you know the feeling, we will be okay!
I wish i can have one, i would be blamed and portrayed as a villain for years, like they have done to me over the smallest most unworthy things such as the silent anger in my eyes
In my opinion, Male rage is not just anger it can be any other things, it's not just women. Please do not hate on this comment I do not mean to be disrespectful in any way this is just how I think and my opinions.💜
anger is pain and would lead you to terrible situations, if you feel related with this please find professional help, you deserve peace of mind and justice
y’all are missing the point. women never get to be angry. we always have to be prim and professional. this is showing how powerful it can be when we say scream, something we’re judged to do, something we’re repressed from doing. like the entire point is that our emotions are powerful because we women are deep. we’re not shallow we’re not quiet. we can be loud.
@bellahawthorne4228whenever males are angry nobody bats an eye, they think it’s just them being them, but when women do it we are perceived as dramatic, throwing a tantrum, being a bitch, being a brat, being stupid, overdoing it, being annoying, everyone calls us crazy, and gaslights us, because we can’t show emotion and they are so used to us agreeing.
@@hcneymoon True
@@hcneymoon exactly! or they say 'you must be on ur period'
@@hcneymoonanger is one of the only emotions that's socially acceptable for men to have. We are taught not to cry because it shows weakness. Women can't be angry without being labeled difficult or a bitch and men can't be sad without being seen as weak or a pussy.
This isn't true and not my experience at all.
"I have a thing about feminine rage :>" - Anya Taylor Joy (with a little kick)
love her!! that interview was my inspo for the video haha
It's phenomenal to see that we're starting to talk about this topic properly, yes! 🙌🏼
@@savannahgrace05 i knew it!! lol
@@savannahgrace05 what interview is that?
She's a queen for that 👑
Fiona, since season 1, has always had the best anger moment/ acting skills, Emmy (the actress) is so great at portraying anger, the face expression, shameless has so many great actors but Fiona’s anger scenes were always ground breaking
**her name's Emmy, but you're right about her outstanding talent!!
@@nonabonn omg yes you’re right ! I wasn’t sure while writing the comment but I didn’t want to leave UA-cam !
She deserved so much better and I’m still mad Frank didn’t mention her name on his farewell letter. I replayed the ending many times thinking I just missed it but she was snubbed.
Yesssss it’s my first time watching shameless (haven’t finished ir yet, up to season 4) and I’m always Impressed with her actress
I thought you were talking about the Fiona from Shrek and I was really confused
For some reason the scene at 2:57 stuck to me. Just the sheer, held back rage she had to smile and walk away. You know she's livid inside but not letting it out, the bitterness just drips out. This is how I commonly see women show anger. Not in screaming, not hysterically. But held back so tightly it seeps through the cracks as bitterness
Cassie wasn't holding back her rage lol. She was having an episode. She desperately needs psychiatric help. She was screaming hysterically moments before this clip hahahaha, he just met her energy and she didn't like it.
Nate was taking the piss out of her doing exactly the same thing moments before.
You did not watch the show did you 😂
@@digitaljosh_ You're not getting the damn point.
sydney sweeney deserved an emmy for her euphoria performance. she and zendaya carried this season on their backs single-handedly and i hate that sydney isn’t getting enough credit.
it's because people (imo somewhat unfairly) hate Sydney's character too much. When they see Cassie screaming and getting angry, whether she's wrong or right in the situation they call her crazy and overdramatic, not looking at why she's so mad or her side of the story. They have sympathy for Rue, they understand her anger, even if they don't agree with her actions or opinions, and so they praise Zendaya's acting. If they understood Cassie's performance a little more she'd definitely have a few awards under her name, and I hope once the series progresses and Cassie develops, more people will appreciate Sydney.
@@sadie6094 real omfg i wish people would just be more understanding towards cassie overall. she is suffering just as much as rue because of her addiction to male validation and she needs serious help and i hate that the fans of the show aren’t extending the curtesy we give rue, to cassie.
Nah. That would’ve been Emmy Rossum. She’s far more talented
Sydney’s “rage” scene was less than 3 seconds 💀
@@lizanya6433 be so fr
The boys are just giving childish temper tantrums they're honestly embarrassing but the women scare me, I love them
If you watched this compilation and didn't think most of these were tantrums perhaps you don't know the meaning of the word. These are quite literally tantrums.
90% of these scenes are all tantrums lmfao
Half of these are tantrums. But Fiona almost killed her brother. Lip has the right to be angry. And Nate still sucks but he was upset with his father for traumatizing him which is still valid. The rest by the men are tantrums I think.
It's because women are conditioned to hold in their anger or else they're seen as dramatic, hysterical and crazy even if it's completely valid, eventually it inevitably reaches a boiling point and explodes, which makes women more dangerous and unpredictable because they don't hold back at that point (in my opinion). I don't know if half of these scenes portray that, but that's just how it is based on my experience.
Literally only one was a tantrum. Everyone else were expressing raw emotion. None of you know anything you're talking about. Lol You only said that to invalidate male anger.
Maybe it’s just me but I always thought realistic female rage was far more repressed and far more more resentful then the ladies screaming in anger.
Yeah but it’s inside so we wouldn’t know it from a movie.
It’s not good to repress your rage so it’s better to represent it being let out imo, almost like it’s being redefined
@@elliefitch112 If women were to express anger and hurt the way men did, we would either get no society or they would be killed in drove. And let's not forget that hysteria was a fake illness invented by men so women can't express everything like in the movie
Because in reality, women are expected to hold in their anger and be more agreeable.
I kinda disagree because to me it's more realistic to see a woman scream in anger but most people don't see it as anger they just see it as "being crazy" or "being emotional" so they don't often recognize it as anger. I honestly hate when movies and shows show women raging in silence and you saying it is more realistic kinda just pushes more into the fact that letting it out is "being crazy" or "emotional" when it isn't.
Rage starts loud, but it becomes terrifying when things get calm, cold, and quiet.
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you are so lana del ray coded girly pop
Zendaya should’ve won an Emmy and a golden globe for her euphoria performance
She did. 2 Emmys 1 Golden Globe
@@AmandaT_P she did? my mistake! that's great she deserves them
Homie 😂
She has, several times 🙄
Nah. That would’ve been Emmy Rossum. She’s far more deserving of it.
There’s a lot of comments on how the women in these clips are embarrassing themselves or setting a bad example for teenage girls watching these clips, but I don’t really think that’s the point of female rage. While there are stories that depict the world as we want to see it, these stories are more about depicting the world as it is. Women get angry, and it’s not always pretty. Sometimes it’s downright ugly. I think the reason it’s focused on here is that women generally aren’t allowed to rage. We’ll get criticized for our anger, and people will refuse to take us seriously unless we channel our feelings in socially acceptable ways.
In my experience, I don’t know how much raging would’ve helped me as an angry and depressed teenage girl. But I wish I could go back in time to tell her it was okay to not be okay, that I didn’t have to be who everyone wanted me to be, that I could find an outlet for everything I was feeling. Regardless of gender, I’m willing to bet I’m not the only one.
thank you! i totally agree
i’m trying to tell myself that now. since my brother passed, i’ve always felt like i was supposed to be okay (i was 12 when he passed). whenever i would say that i wasn’t okay, i would get yelled at, or told “stop using your brother as an excuse”. so now i just stick to “i’m fine” to spare myself from that. i’m still trying to learn how deal with my emotions as a 16 year old.
I mean- it’s “rage”😅
What did people expect? A well composed lady, sitting down making a 5 point argument abt all the emotions she was feeling??
There’s often hardly any rhyme or reason in ACTUAL rage
My ex would push me to the point of screaming like a banchee. Then he’d immediately look me in the eyes and be like, “what’re you yelling for?🤨”. Like mf idk, maybe because you’re INSUFFERABLE??????!!!! And then he’d act all holier than thou bc he was “containing his anger” and I wasn’t. Even though he was expressing it through his ego and spiteful tongue.
@@gabib4966sorry.
Love it but why's nate here💀
the description says they put male scenes so you can see the difference on how anger is expressed by men and women.
Nate is a transwoman
@@emptycinema girl what
@@jsaprilslaying i am saying bullshit without no reason
@@emptycinema we dont claim nate.
Watching Nate raging on the floor is very cathartic.
😂😂😂
It sounds like he is giving birth
More like throwing tantrum actually
In my experience, a lot of men don't view their own anger as a problem, because it's culturally accepted for men to show that explosive rage. When women display the same set of emotions, they're "crazy".
For Fiona, although Fiona was Liam's guardian, at the end of the day there were 4-5 other adults present when that happen to Liam, and every last one of them should have kept an eye on Liam when he was there. I feel like Fiona shouldn’t have been fully blamed when other adults were present during that time. Even though they were not Liam's guardians they were still adults so at least one of the adults should have paid attention to a toddler that was there ...
And they all collectively looked after him. Hated that they fully blamed her like that. Like they don’t want her to parent them but when something goes wrong it’s her fault
So true!! I never thought about it like that. Legally, yes Fiona was Liam’s guardian, but as a household and family they shared joint responsibility, including Kev and Veronica!
maybe im wrong but a lot of what Fiona did was things that in turn hurt not only her but her family, while what the others did were stuff that mostly affected them individually she didn’t have to take care of them she chose to like when debs got pregnant Fiona refused to help her but debs wanted support and love and had to kinda do it alone and Fiona’s breakdowns were always about situations she got herself into like dumb dating dumb immature men who got her into trouble and everyone always had to support her no questions asked even tho it was her choices that got her there
also this isn’t me being mean just my perspective, I totally don’t mind you sharing your perspective on this too cuz we all view things differently
legally it is fionas fault bc she is more liable because it was her drugs and she was the legal care provider for liam it also happened on her property. tho i do agree someone should have been watching him
OK I swear the thing that pisses me off the most is that Fiona gave up so much to take care of them and every time the smallest thing happened they would blame her but then always come back expecting her to like fully take care of them all over again as if they hadn’t done anything wrong. Like whenever she makes like one small mistake,even though everyone around her makes the biggest mistakes, they all take it out on her as if it’s always her fault and they never take responsibility for their own actions
Liam almost dying from a drug overdose @ the age of 3 was a small little thing (she was the one responsible for him when it happened)
My thing with Fiona was she had every right to make it all about her like you said she was always giving up so much for the rest of her family (i mean I think they all did to make life liveable in that fd up place) she (as with everyone else) was/were always amazing at protecting and attacking when anyone went after her family but the one time it was supposed to be about her she seemed to show what the show had Been saying since episode 1, and that’s the Gallagher’s are amazing when they all have the same goals, mindset, objectives , etc. Only problem is she was only thinking about clearing her name and making sure she wasn’t going to jail/prison
4:04 when katniss finds out that Peeta is still in the capitol it always makes me cry, Jennifer Lawrence is one of the best actresses fr
The woman talking about the coffee pot (from the movie Hidden Figures) was an amazing performance. You could feel her anger through the screen.
Yes and thats the problem.
Women are raised to never show anger and to sit still and be pretty and are told that its not lady like to show rage, they can shed a tear and be quiet but when they scream they're hysterical and crazy.
It shouldnt be special or giving shivers to see female rage, it should be just as normal as a man is showing his anger.
fiona deserved better
they keep forgetting she isn't their mother she is tehri sister and she gave more than she should
the least they can do if they ain't gonna have her back is stfu
lip always judges her yet he fcked up his life in all ways
She left out cocain near her 3 year old brother, which he ate and was left paralysed in the hospital.
She didn't deserve pity in this clip. She shouldn't even have cocaine in the house with a child. And she became very self centered as time went on
I haven’t watched the show but from what I’ve seen… isn’t she their legal guardian?
@@abiade9614 She is, but the show forgets that
Edit: I don't think she is yet at in that clip though
@@boop99 Exactly. Not only that, but she was fully considering to go to trial and plead Not Guilty, which would result in her getting 5 years in prison and it's risk she's willing to take, all because "iT wAs An AcCiDeNt".
I think the most realistic form of rage in this video was cathrine. She had to put up with so much of racism and hatred from her white co workers, and it was all because they didn’t want a smart block woman working with them. She honestly deserved to go off on them like that. I’m also saying this cause this was the only film I actually watched from this video 🤣
that scene is honestly my favorite of this whole video, it gives me chills every time!
What movie is that
@@snake5485 hidden figures
Idk every time I’ve had genuine rage it has come out with screaming and borderline violence 💀 Rue is a good example of how I was in addiction
i hope you’re doing well :))
@@savannahgrace05 I actually am, thank you! About a month ago I finished 7 months of rehab and I’ve maintained my sobriety ever since :)
@@therealai777 that’s incredible!!! i’m proud of you, keep it up!
@@therealai777 thats actually amazing, hope youre doing alright
@@therealai777 hope you're still doing well!
I’m not allowed to yell, scream, argue back, it’s so frustrating, it hurts so much
rue scene doesn't represent female rage it's addict rage
Exactly
i love being an angry woman
never found a comment so relatable
Best of luck, yeah?
Nobody else does
Idk about you, but being an angry woman for me is painful and I can’t stand it. More power to you I guess.
@@Solar_Corpus everyone loves being an angry woman because it's not their problem.
i think the most chilling one was the clip at around the 3:00 mark where the guy yells "what is wrong with you?' and the woman goes "okay. bye." and walks away. like wait i need to know more about what is going on there!
It's Cassie from euphoria
In that scene Cassie f's nate Jacobs (the dude)
Nate was her BEST FRIENDS horrid abusive, manipulative ex
i love how ironically calming female rage is. the way we’re no longer represented as repressed being of society but having natural feelings and reactions too, unapologetically
Emmy Rossum should’ve gotten an Emmy for her acting in Shameless.
The way the Gallaghers treated Fiona during season 4 though...
Well godamn I imagine most people would treat her the same if not worse if they left coke out that almost got their baby brother killed
If someone did coke around my baby and they ate it I might actually kill them. It’s unforgivable.
yeah well no shit. i wonder why????
Some Shows:
Euphoria (series)
Hidden Figures (movie)
Shameless (series)
Marriage Story (movie)
Malcolm & Marie (movie)
The hunger games (movies)
i think sydney sweeney portrayal and performance of just saying "ok. bye." was absolutely perfect for female rage. the red eyes after screaming and just everything about it
I'm a girl in my late 30s. I've been a film and tv addict my whole life -- life had other ideas for a while, but I'm on the path to making movies again. I've seen a lot of bad movies, and a lot of great movies! This video was really well edited and your use of background music was so well done. Women are so hard to portray because we're often a mystery to ourselves. It gets easier as you get older. The fear, anger and worry you feel in your 20s often turns to concern, trust in yourself, and love. I really like how you mixed the fear and anxiety of being a young women with mothers and mature women -- it's hard to transition between them, especially out of context. If you're in school for film or editing, you're doing a great job! This video shows you have a great understanding of it.
wow, thank you so much! this was my final project for a high school film literature class haha, but i am possibly considering film for my future
I had al ways hated how female rage is represented, how in tough situations they would break and start crying looking for a man to handle the situation. I just love when women feel rage and handle it themselves whether they rage first then become cold, calculating or the other way around like it is for me I feel rage but I suppress it, I’m cold and calculating until I explode or perfectly execute my vengeance. It tests my patience to do that but the longest I’ve gone planning something is 6 years and counting the fall out will be epic.
What films represent female rage like what you describe?
I read a quote that said "All women believe they are going insane"
while i like coquette-core, lana del rey's persona throughout her "born to die" and "ultraviolence" eras, and ethel cain's persona throughout her "preacher's daughter" story/album, and more femme-fatale characters i'm failing to mention... it's uncomfortable that we're classifying "feminine rage" into an aesthetic, continuing to make ourselves more easily digestible. we're also absolving ourselves of any uniqueness through this grand-scale relatability (online), and the hyper-specification of it all. nothing is original anymore.
i'm so appreciative that intersectional feminism has shone light onto the deep-seated, overwhelming, suffocative rage that women harbor; driving the popularity of this aesthetic... but i also wish that mental illness in women-- triggered by the comprehension that this world isn't ruled nor made for us-- wasn't so sugar-coated, neatly packaged with flowers and frills. i think we choke on the bitterness of our rage enough, being stifled by the patriarchal systems that perpetually hinder our full autonomy.
while it's relieving to unify with other women who resonate with this concept... i also think being an angry woman isn't something to admire, but something to fear. our ravenous hunger for power and the depth of our universal rage is just as ugly and terrifying as the men who planted it.
i hope this makes sense. i'm just very torn on the subject.
I don’t have anything worthwhile to add to this discourse, I really really loved your comment and the way it articulated feelings about this I didn’t know how to express
Yes! I believe that when it comes to love, women do it better than men by literally submitting their everything into nurturing the thing they adore most. Hence, when it comes to hate and revenge, women take on this extreme evil level as they voluntarily dismiss their innate nature of caring and loving others to put on a persona that manipulates and tortures those they despise. And so, female rage is nothing to celebrate...in fact no gender's rage and anger should be made into an aesthetic! If you want to glamorize your temper issues, feel free to do so in an asylum with the rest of your kind.
Totally agree. Love this.
YES YES FINALLY!! i hope we can have female characters that are pure human and not just some subcategory of pretty styles that only include women who are convetnionally attractive.
very well put, I also had mixed feelings about this video and came to the comments looking for someone who could articulate what was bothering me. Rue having a relapse-fueled breakdown and railing against everyone she knows shouldn't be put in the same category as that iconic scene from hidden figures. One of those is a heartbreaking story about a drug addict and one is actually very relevant to the subject of the video. Just because Rue is a girl in a scene who is angry doesn't mean she should be here. Female rage is NOT an aesthetic and fetishizing it is just one more way we downplay and box in our very real, complicated emotions by making them safe, convenient, and well-trimmed.
Fiona is one of my favorite characters in Shameless because just like everybody else in the show. She’s a flaw human being who has done bad things and make mistakes. But at the same time she has every right to be angry and pissed off at the world. I remember when her mother spend all the money and almost got Carl killed. Fiona straight up loses it and yells out in frustration. You feel her angry towards her mother and how she can’t even leave her family for one day unless one of them starts trouble. Another best moment was when Fiona yells at Frank and made him cry.
I just love the intensity of emotions. The depths of emotional hurts.
2:58 brought me back to a place i thought i left. i was cassie at some point and nate was my father. there is something so deep about that performance that felt so raw and pure. ive never seen the show, so i dont have the full context, if im wrong, please correct me. either way, sydney sweeney deserves an emmy.
It’s so unfair that a woman being upset and having emotions has such a negative outlook where when men are mad they’re allowed to scream and cry and have a tantrum. Women always have to apologise for having human emotions and not fitting in to EVERYONES expectations. We are human too, it’s not fair
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Men's rage is terrifying because how they express it is by hitting stuff, breaking things or even hurting people, and it's caused by deep-down depression. Women's anger is terrifying as well, yet it was caused by passion, pain, and they expressed it by yelling.
And women’s is bottled up so much that we break down and hurt the ones we love most
Or vice versa. Everyone’s different
I would argue that the biggest difference between male and female rage is that male rage is often portrayed as pure rage while female rage is often indulged with other emotions such as sadness or grief that the rage comes with. Its portrayed the way that when female gets mad most of the time they would end up crying.
This is another angle to the discussion as I agreed that we often see female rage is repressed and not explosive as men. However, to decide whether the representation is correct or not, I would say it wouldnt conclude with a white and black answer since it is true that female does have the societal pressure to repressed their anger and control their emotions better than men. But it would be nice to see a representation where the female character does not hold back and follows their instinct on the spot instead of taking revenge later on.
Rage is an emotion everyone can go through, in these clips these women are literally going through something important in their life to cause them to rage and break because of it. Everyone rages based on the situation or trauma, not the gender.
I’m so happy to see such lovely people here. Keep spreading the love!
Honestly I completely agree with female rage being empowering and something that should be accepted the same as male rage, but with abuse such as Rue's to Fez its not quite the same. Abuse and emotional manipulation is still abuse, regardless of gender. True equality is recognising that men and women should be able to openly feel and display their emotions, and these emotions should be accepted unless they are abusive and harmful.
Yes don’t even watch euphoria but I was like ermmm nawt that scene
Yep but unfortunately boys often show their emotions in an abusive and harmful way. And ik society doesn't allow them to show emotion but then it isn't male rage, it's just not being able to show your emotions properly. So it's a whole bigger thing. Which btw I would like to add that if men started supporting feminism they'd know that feminism is literally making the world a better place for them too. And until they do that, I don't think theyd be able to show their emotions.
Anyone ever been so enraged by someone’s actions that you imagine hurting them like a rag doll? With the screams and all? It actually calms me down for instance.
fiona and katniss omg im literally bawling
That scene with Taraji still gets. I felt so angry watching that scene the first time. On a side note, fu Lip, Fiona deserved so much better.
and i fucking hate that even when we’re angry too we’re still the ones who calm down first and end up comforting the guy and acting like their mothers cant they give Us a fucking break. and guys dont even have periods ffs we should be given more slack when we’re furious or angry or emotional
I recommend if you want to do another compilation, to add a scene of the movie: "Relatos Salvajes" (Damian Szifron), in the movie there is a story about a bride who founds out in her wedding day that ther husband is cheating with a guest at the party, and she goes on a crazy rage, and its over the top, but also realistic. Great video!
ooo i’ll check that out! thank you!
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@@requiemforanali campeones del mundoe eeeee
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"WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU"
"ok."
Chills
hi! i definitely did not expect this video to be seen by so many people haha. i made this video for the final project in my film lit class for which we had to create our own “short film.”
i elaborate on my choices for the video in the description, but to clear up some confusion, i put in those scenes with men (nate, lip, etc.) to contrast their portrayals to the women’s.
i love reading your thoughts and discussions! thank you!
fiona gallagher is such a great character i love her sm
It's the calm rage you should really be afraid of.
You know, a woman being angry doesn't always qualify as female rage. 😬
why are you pointing that out like it's not obvious...............i swear people who always say normal things like this are so patronizing. duh, but there are beliefs and systems unfortunately put in place that tends to push women and other marginalized genders to a different type of rage. it's not a woman being angry, it's the circumstances behind why they're angry.
@@femalegays thank you. people like that are very fucking annoying. 👏🏽
I think anger isn't as extreme as rage in general.. like across genders.
@@temporaryfrustration I agree with you. but what I saw in the video was not "Female Rage". That implies that the emotion is caused by the patriarchy and it's influences. But in the video, from what I saw, the creator did not really use that criteria
Is Rue screaming at her drug dealer for not selling her drugs and trying to make the right choice really an example of "Female Rage"?
men love to raise their voices to intimidate women.
To intimidate women or to release their anger by shouting like a normal human? No doubt what you mentioned happens a lot, and those people are obviously pieces of sht, but I would have thought most people are normal and not sadistic little rats
@@newlchipson2900 you shouldn’t release anger at others. Men don’t understand their emotions or how to not let their emotions control them. They are sadistic little rats. Yelling at people when not in danger is not normal. It’s unhealthy.
@@LowSlungBadBitch what you said, respectfully, makes no sense, to the point that I think you're trolling.
I guess aside from the first sentence, which I can agree with, not in all cases though.
@@newlchipson2900 im serious. its a product of the patriarchy. you can tell someone youre angry at them and why. but them making you angry isnt enough to justify yelling, hitting (a wall or other), manipulating, being mean, etc. that stuff is unnecessary and it doesnt help the situation. it causes escalation. and you can google it if you wanna !
@@LowSlungBadBitch you said some weird stuff about men that obviously isn't true, I'm assuming you don't actually believe that. But I agree with you on anger not solving much of anything, it's better to try to keep it subdued and explain without raising your voice why you are upset with the person. But that right there, is not reality, that is not how emotions work. These real, raw and intense emotions that might bubble up in an argument are very natural, and both genders are guilty of these things. I agree that shouting can of course escalate to violence, which is awful, and done by complete pos
Why is this comforting?
no ever likes being angry ,there just so tired the just want people to understand them,they just want to be happy and that comes to everyone and yes some will denied that there is something wrong or there just scared to say it
tbh the only accutate portrayal is neytiri after her son dies :///
Can people stoooop putting rue in these, just because she plays the angry emotion really well doesn't mean its a good depiction of female rage. She's an addict going through withdrawals and destroying the relationships around her because of it. Its abusive behavior, not "female rage"
It is tho she is hysterical??
Despite everything she's doing she still acknowledges that she isn't a very good person after all that's part of the concept u just don't get it
yeah, it’s not rage. she’s just angry her drugs were thrown away
Realistic female anger is often red-faced tears and silence because we e been conditioned to be quiet our whole lives. I don’t know many women who yell. But I know a LOT of women who get quiet and slowly release their anger over YEARS. Because an “angry woman” is still not taken seriously and is often classified as “hysterical” or “on your period” or “emotional.”
This is what’s crazy about that argument that everything will be better when men can finally “be allowed” to be emotional. It’s BOTH genders that need to allow themselves to feel and express more and in healthy ways. Women are allowed to cry, yes, but there’s a line in there that keeps us from crying too much.
Because if we cry too much, we get less respect. So this “screaming rage” I’ve only seen happen a few times with women. It’s more likely to be quiet rage slowly coming out in petty ways over years while men hold all their emotions down so far they don’t know how to be angry anymore, they only know how to disappear and then explode when they get shook up too much.
There's no truly realistic way of rage people rage however they want scream ,hit, kick, throw ,women aren't just crying they do rage immensely
So glad Katniss’s clip was added in here
Hidden Figures was so good!!
0:34 How all moms feel
The hidden figure lady always gives me chills
I just wanted to note that in the clips the females rage is caused by a buildup of anger and moments that they have been forced to supress, thats why their so angry. Sociaey often forces women to supress our anger so we are not portrayed as hysterical or emotional, but often we reach braking points and i think actual rage should be protrayed more in woman in meda, not the kinda of supressed, calculated rage that pple have been calling female rage.
seeing nates tantrum made me think you were including him in the female rage which made me chuckle
The thing about fiona is i love how he got mad at her because if she went to jail he would have to drop out of school to take care of everyone it had nothing to do about liam, but that is exactly what fiona had to do and when she was alot younger then him they always blame fiona for everything but she did not ask to become a parent when she was barely even a teenager yet she stepped up and tried her best to give them the best life but no matter what she does she is in the wrong she is trying her best she is so stressed out and she is barely older then a lot of them yet they blame her for every bad thing that happens
would you be cool with a vid inspired by this concept? like just a continuation with more depictions.
go ahead!
the way i started crying while watching this
I love this compilation
Am I the only one confused why Nate Jacobs is in this compilation?
Apparently to compare male and female rage ig
Cause of Cassie’s reaction
When Cassie says “ok, bye😃” the face of Nate just goes from mad to scared in one second
The fact that I started laughing when Nate showed twice…😂
midsommar should be added to this
Just saw this on my recs, clicked. Second damn scene and im sobbing, rip fezco (angus)
the "Ok, bye" got me. Thats me when the rage comes full circle. I'm so full of rage I'm calm. All men can do is punch a hole in dry wall.
Nates tantrumn was.......somthing else.
My dad has explosive rage, but when I let my rage flow even my Dad will go silent and just let me go
clicked for mommy fiona, stayed for the video
That rage is inside of every woman it is no't an exaple thing what you learn it's God given rage, it floods
Why does the portrayal of female rage include nate jacobs?
lmaoo
"okay. bye."
this is all inside me like anwhirlwind waiting for a tornado to start
Hunger games has the best written rage I've seen honestly, catching fire was amazing.
Okay but sydney's was genuinely TERRIFYING
What’s wrong with me? I’ve been too nice for too damn long.
“female rage”
**AND ITS NATE JACOBS**
I will always be angry for what they did. My anger eats me alive and I try hard to not feel it but it’s my entire being. I don’t want to be hateful but I am so hateful and angry.
Vent it out somewhere safe. Shoving it down will prob end up with you doing something youll feel extremely bad abt for a long time. You could write in a journal, punch a bag or a pilliow, scream, go to a dump and just destroy shit. Igwym though, its hard when you hate the feeling of being angry.
@@lukakaaiakamanu8371 thank you. Truly thank you. I try to journal and it does help but the idea ab going to a dump is great I’m gonna try that. Thank you and I’m sorry you know the feeling, we will be okay!
Me writing a book to let out all my female rage
my favorite part was when all of the women were composed at the end of exploding, whereas all the men broke down and threw tantrums
I love how they added Nate jacobs into it
Fiona is one of my favourite characters of all time
Where's Game of Thrones, Westworld, Succession, and House of the Dragon?
That hidden figures scene tho>>>>>
I wish i can have one, i would be blamed and portrayed as a villain for years, like they have done to me over the smallest most unworthy things such as the silent anger in my eyes
portrayal of female rage (insert nate jacobs)
I love being a woman
I'm sure you do
@@brandonlamb9067 I hate being a woman
@@elliotp23 Well good luck I guess. Hope it works out
Me too
Sometimes I like being a woman and sometimes I want to be non binary.
I will continue to be angry, even if my smile is preferred to look at.
In my opinion, Male rage is not just anger it can be any other things, it's not just women.
Please do not hate on this comment I do not mean to be disrespectful in any way this is just how I think and my opinions.💜
anger is pain and would lead you to terrible situations, if you feel related with this please find professional help, you deserve peace of mind and justice
Everyone gets angry. It’s unavoidable. You can’t just not feel negative things
Anger is an emotion. We all have it.
1:49 I’m so sry but OPEN THE NOOR