I love how gracious you were when describing, "people who may not be engineers by trade." A lot of people don't give others the benefit of the doubt or recognise that we aren't all at the same level as engineers. You're a good man, Joe.
Joe: starts playing the song with all plugins offline - Me: it already sounds better than any mix I have ever done. I'm still watching, but I have already learned quite a few things. Thank you!
In my opinion, you are one of best teachers on UA-cam. I am not a professional. I am a hobbyist. The way you explain your process is easy for me to understand. I cannot thank you enough. You have help improve my mixes 100%. I would love to see more comprehensive video like this one for bass and guitar.
@@israelmarty007 thank you man. As many videos as I have done in the past, they were always for other channels so me having my own channel is a really new development. Thank you for the enthusiasm!!
Such an incredible video with all the key info and best part not using a 100 plugins on each track! This was so inspiring and insightful! Thanks a lot Joe 😊
@@danielmconnolly7 thank you! I recorded that probably seven or eight years ago in a small room without a lot of amazing gear, but it was a great session and we got some great songs out of it. Thank you for watching 👊🏼
even though i know and use most of what you do its STILL worth seeing your videos from time to time. Just a good solid refresh of basic tools for drums.
I'm fairly new to mixing, completely fascinated by the art, however I can't help but feeling so overwhelmed with these plugin interfaces and layouts. It just seems so intuitive for all the people I follow to just move the knobs, drag the faders, push the buttons and it's like watching painters blending colors in a canvas. Hope I get there soon. Cheers!
This is brilliant Joe. Super appreciate you making this high quality content. Been mixing and producing for a lot of years, but still picked up a few super helpful ideas! Thanks.
thanks for the great insight! I really do struggle with OHs when it comes to mixing drums. Because of all the different drums with their own characteristic tone. Thank you so much
Great stuff Joe -- I especially liked use of the Pie compressor in limit mode on the toms and the distortion bus you tastefully use. I will give these a shot on my next drum mix. Thanks!
Great tutorial, thank you! Parallell distortion on drums (or whatever) is a separate universe in itself BTW. I never used Decapitator for this purpose, but it also did a brilliant job here. Too many plugins around. Your videos are very valuable - condensed, simple and effective methods of shaping sound. Thanks a lot for sharing your experience here. ☮
Same here on that like button...thank you for sharing this valuable information for free Joe!! Sample Pack here I come! I got to add Bill and Gretchen to my arsenal.
Hi Joe, thank you for another great video. On a couple of occasions you mentioned that the approach to mixing darker drums for Americana or Indie music would be totally different. Can you give us a couple of ideas how your approach would change? (… or maybe that’s an idea for a follow up video? :))
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell YOU ARE A TEACHER YOU HAVE BEEN MY INSPIRATION TO BE AN ENGINEER, I ALWAYS WATCH YOUR VIDEOS SINCE THE FIRST DAY THEY CAME OUT GOD BLESS YOU
Absolutely. Overheads and drums room almost always get fast attack. Hat as well. Hopefully I detailed that in the video if you have had a chance to watch it. Tom’s, snare, kick get regular attack because fast attack removes the transient too much
I've been tweaking how I route everything in my mix template a little recently, and this made me want to change even more! I'm Interested in how you buss the bass and drums together, do you have a video on that already? Would love to hear more about why you do and what to watch out for/ how to do it well!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell I found that video about 5 minutes after I left this comment haha! Such a rad way to use subgroups, gonna have to try it out next mix
Thank you, you are a good teacher, and we Iranians who cannot see original teachings due to political sanctions, your page can be our best teacher, thank you ❤️🙏
I didn’t even know they made a sa2rate plugin. I’ll have to grab that! I like to use inactive plugin copies of my hardware inserts, so I can set the plugin knobs exactly how I did irl, which makes recall a breeze if I ever need to.
Great video. I'm still just above beginner level on a lot of things. Toms and snare are still a challenge. Side stick too, I can never get that light airy sound, it always sounds way too beefy! Lol
@@chucknkd The closest thing I can think of is an Instagram reel that I made one time showing how I load up a bunch of presets and check them each within the song to see which one works best. Since there’s eight slots, I will have all eight full, but only one of them unmuted and I can toggle between them to audition. So I have some presets named “my favorite hi guys” and “my favorite lo guys” for example that each have eight sounds ready to hear.
Hey Joe! Great tips as always. Question! You may have said it and I missed it but do you know what mics and preamps/external hardware was used in the initial recording? Thanx man!
@@JeffWald thank you Jeff. That was quite a few years ago and I don’t Remember what we had on that room. I’m pretty sure it was a B52 inside the kick and 57s too and bottom of the snare. That’s about all I know for sure unfortunately.
For the longest time I've been using api eq plugins on my kick mics and while they're not bad, I thought I'd try the ssl instead. I find the ssl a lot smoother.
Good question. I want to chop of a few of the loudest Random transient spikes before they hit the stereo buss. That way the whole stereo buss grouping isn’t being hit from those random spikes. So no effect to vocals, guitars, etc. thanks for watching Luke!
Do you offer any type of course outside of UA-cam that teaches how to mix and how to set up a DAW for a session etc.? I could use some extra beginner level help as I feel like I know nothing. Haha.
@@southisaac I do absolutely. There are three of them on Pro Mix Academy. I would recommend either the Kayley Bishop one if you work with a lot of real instruments or the Mackenzie Johnson one if you do more synthetic pop tracks. Thank you!!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrellWonderful. I am going to check that out right now. My son is a drummer and I record drum covers and post to UA-cam. Thank you sir. This will be a tremendous help.
@@Vossflying very often I’m starting right at the mix with something I’ve never heard before. But much like you are saying, if I find I need it, I very often re-commit the drum tracks and work from the new aligned files in a playlist.
Awesome content thank you for your knowledge!! I know it all depends on the player and the set , but is there a kick drum mic you find easier to mix when you get kick tracks(maybe for rock/pop)? I’m the market for one and it’s between the AKG D112 and the beta 52a. They both have pretty distinct sounds I was just wondering if there was one that had a starting point that gets you to the mix faster?
@@nicholasvegas2899 for whatever reason I lean towards the 52. I have a 112 but kind of tired of it. Now I use the 52 for more aggressive Music, the vintage D12 for jazz or big band, and for some really round Americana I use the Lewitt kick mic
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell thank you so much! I was leaning 52 as well. I’ve just started my journey in mixing and your content has been so helpful. Thanks for all the work!
@@GILLISH I just blend them to taste if there are things that are different but I like about multiple tracks. Sometimes I’ll cut all the low end out of one if it gets too thick etc.
I know Joe Carrell knows what he’s doing. But when I see an instructional video titled “Mixing Drums” or fill in the blank - guitars, vocals - I just have to shake my head. I’ve made records 45 years and I still have never used the same setup on a drum kit twice. Even in a live show, which is a bit of a specialty for me, the drums get changed to fit each song, and sometimes profoundly changed. There’s a lot to learn here but definitely don’t get the wrong idea. How to mix music is about as valid as how to sing. It just makes zero sense to imply any sound is the right one.
@@artysanmobile well I agree and disagree. The tools and approaches can be very similar repeatedly. Of course the compressor attack and release, equalization, type and amount of effects will all change on a song by song basis…it is also the job of some veteran engineers that have acquired a lot of knowledge and were blessed enough to have great veteran mentors teach us and allow us to watch over their shoulder when we were young and getting started. I luckily stay so busy that I don’t actually have time to teach. However, I feel it’s my responsibility as a very blessed veteran that has reached this level to help inspire and teach others what they have never been lucky enough to experience. Many will simply never get “in the room” but are still hungry to be the best they can be even if it’s only on their own arrangements from their bedroom. Rather than learn from someone who’s never been succesful and is also limited in experience, of course these friends deserve to learn from people that have been living it every day for decades. I take that duty serious and will continue dropping videos so they can not only see drums, vocals, etc, BUT ALSO see it from one song and one genre to another and study what may be different and how I handled it. They may not get to truly study under me the way I did daily for three years as an assistant to a very succesful dude, but I can can give them the next best thing right from their couch in Iowa! Have a good one
Man, I'm pretty good at getting a great kick drum sound. And I'm okay with snare. But I really struggle with toms. I have a song I'm working on right now that has a very tom-centric part. I want them to sound big, but every time I try to achieve that I just end up with a bunch of low-pitched ringing that gets in the way of everything else. If I cut out that ringing, the toms sound too thin and overly bright. Compression helps some, but it still hasn't solved the issue. And I find that reverb only exacerbates the ringing. My reference point is something like "My Hero" by Dave Grohl. Yes, I know those drums are double-tracked. But that makes it even more impressive that they still sound tight even while there's this massive sense of space.
I would say there’s no guaranteed treatment for any Tom. It’s always going to vary, depending on the drums themselves and how they were recorded. I get stuff in here that can get no better than “usable“ at best. Sometimes it’s the source and only something like sample enhancement can salvage the day.
@@michaelmestres9661 absolutely! I’m sure there are some very similar plug-ins and routing methods that will allow you to achieve the same type of results. Best wishes Michael!
@@FromTheHipp I keep a third effects send channel ready to go with a few different things for appearing just in breaks and huge fills. Also sometimes flanging. Let me send a video link to something I did for Produce Like A Pro recently that may be helpful.
This is something that is missing... not all songs call for rock style drums. I work mainly in the reggae genre, which is never smashed to oblivion to get a massive ambience. We need a more objective overview of what is possible.
This is really cool, however (In my opinion) people lack time spent critically listening to music across different genres and time. The biggest fault I see when I get a “really cool” rough mix is that though the processing of some items may sound right, but the sum (mix) of everything doesn’t quite fit together. Basically people don’t have the experience to know what to do with a reverb, compressor, etc.
Learning the sound and expectations of various genres are absolutely critical for most professionals. Most of us nowadays in order to make a living need to work across multiple genres.
why are we doing so much tweaking in solo? how can you be boosting and cutting highs on a snare or kick totally out of context? I've been told not to do that for years. LOL
One of the main reasons, as mentioned in the video, is that this is a drum specific video. So people can hear exactly what’s going on. But that said I also begin a lot of my mixes with decisions about how the drums should be shaped and proceed to build from that “Color”. Thanks for watching.
I would also add that IMO, anyone who teaches that there is a single absolute wrong and right way to get to the finish line is incorrect. I know absolute stud Hitmaker mixers that start with drums and bass only, some that start with vocals in solo and build from there, and yet others that work so the all faders up and and takeoff. Everyone has to find the approach that works for them. I literally know one legend who mixed hundreds of the biggest pop classics of the late 70s-2000s that, as his career and ear developed, processed one or two tracks at a time in solo using hardware and analog tape and printed all those results back into ProTools two tracks at a time. Then brought that session up on the faders to actually do his balancing and final touches. Took sooo much time per song, but that is what worked for his brain. Best wishes 🎉
I love how gracious you were when describing, "people who may not be engineers by trade." A lot of people don't give others the benefit of the doubt or recognise that we aren't all at the same level as engineers. You're a good man, Joe.
@@timinglismusic6707 thank you! Have a good week!
Fantastic. Works fast but doesn't skip a single thing - shows all moves, settings, discusses thought process, etc. A bang-up job.
Thank you !
imma just go ahead and click like. it’s drums. it’s long-format mixing stuff. It’s Joe. Thanks in advance my dude
Thank you Matt!
This was my thought lol. Hadn’t even watch yet and I liked and subscribed 😂
@@WilliamSSmithIV thank you!!
Same.
One of the best REAL engineers on You Tube... Thanks Joe..!
@@thebarcodestv thank you very much!
Joe: starts playing the song with all plugins offline - Me: it already sounds better than any mix I have ever done.
I'm still watching, but I have already learned quite a few things. Thank you!
Haha. Thank you for watching!
Source material. that's the key... hard pill to swallow
In my opinion, you are one of best teachers on UA-cam. I am not a professional. I am a hobbyist. The way you explain your process is easy for me to understand. I cannot thank you enough. You have help improve my mixes 100%. I would love to see more comprehensive video like this one for bass and guitar.
@@richrich8487 thank you so much, Rich. Absolutely plan on sending a lot more content everyone’s way!
I can't believe that this channel has this little amount of subscribers, come on people, this is quality work from the meister, show some love!!!!
@@israelmarty007 thank you man. As many videos as I have done in the past, they were always for other channels so me having my own channel is a really new development. Thank you for the enthusiasm!!
excellent details.... adding subtle onto subtle to get a really nice sound. The hihats just pop in the groove.
@@rinosphere thank you!
Such an incredible video with all the key info and best part not using a 100 plugins on each track! This was so inspiring and insightful! Thanks a lot Joe 😊
@@VinodArora thank you!
Well, this was certainly the best 49:33 of my day... Great.great.great from end-to-end!
@@cleedev thanks for watching!!
Never seen this channel before now. This one video may have convinced me this is the best music production channel on UA-cam. Thanks for this.
@@joshuadelaughter thank you Joshua. Best wishes ✌🏼✌🏼
Always dropping gems!! Thanks Joe!! That Lewiit is wild how it keeps the proximity close on your vocals 🔥👌🏽
@@thestudiosesh thank you for watching!!
it's just great to see a name like yours show us your whole drumming process ! Thank you so much Joe !
@@laurentmartin6358 thank you Lauren!
The raw drum track is actually quite good~✨
@@danielmconnolly7 thank you! I recorded that probably seven or eight years ago in a small room without a lot of amazing gear, but it was a great session and we got some great songs out of it. Thank you for watching 👊🏼
It doesn't matter what Joe uses, it will always sound spectacular!
@@pablovazquez8386 thank you very much Pablo!
Marvelous work. I really enjoyed the long form video.
@@PurpleMusicProductions perfect. Thank you for watching!
Thank you for your time, energy, and generosity.
You make it sound so easy.
Thank you for watching Henry!
You’re doin’ God’s work, Joe!!! Keep ‘em coming, your tutorials are perfect.
@@JCDwyer thank you very much!!
even though i know and use most of what you do its STILL worth seeing your videos from time to time. Just a good solid refresh of basic tools for drums.
Thank you!
I'm fairly new to mixing, completely fascinated by the art, however I can't help but feeling so overwhelmed with these plugin interfaces and layouts. It just seems so intuitive for all the people I follow to just move the knobs, drag the faders, push the buttons and it's like watching painters blending colors in a canvas.
Hope I get there soon.
Cheers!
@@JayQuijada it’s all about hours in the chair. It becomes second nature. Best wishes Jay!
This is brilliant Joe. Super appreciate you making this high quality content. Been mixing and producing for a lot of years, but still picked up a few super helpful ideas! Thanks.
@@timgosden5519 awesome to hear Tim!
everything in raw sounds pro already. Thanks for the teaching sir!
greetings from Philippines
@@audiowavesmusicstudio thank you for watching!
This is how it’s done! Thanks for sharing Joe.
@@matthewkruger1182 thank you for watching Matthew 👊🏼👊🏼
Straightforward, super explanations and of course great decisions. Can't ask for more! You have my subscription, Joe.
@@philburns5656 thank you Phil!
Thank you sir for the informative tutorial on drums. It's really helpful.
@@omkardhumal great news! Best wishes ✌🏼✌🏼
Fantastic, thanks!!
I really appreciate all that you do Joe! Thank you for you brother!
@@michaeljoubert2903 thank you for following along Michael
Great Video Joe!
@@spinlightstudios thank you!
thanks for the great insight! I really do struggle with OHs when it comes to mixing drums. Because of all the different drums with their own characteristic tone. Thank you so much
@@bennylau6657 glad you enjoyed it Benny. Thank you for watching
Great, informative video as always Joe. Thank you!
@@allpdmusic thank you for watching!
Great stuff Joe -- I especially liked use of the Pie compressor in limit mode on the toms and the distortion bus you tastefully use. I will give these a shot on my next drum mix. Thanks!
Great! Best wishes and thank you for watching ✌🏼
Just great, Joe. Thanks!
@@FelipeGruberTV thank you for watching Felipe!
FABULOUS video thanks so much Joe!
Thank you !!
Awesome! Thanks for sharing such an incredible amount of knowledge.
@@mytchel thank you for watching!!
Great stuff. Thanks a lot
@@belgradeboy1977 thank you for watching!
Great tutorial, thank you! Parallell distortion on drums (or whatever) is a separate universe in itself BTW. I never used Decapitator for this purpose, but it also did a brilliant job here. Too many plugins around. Your videos are very valuable - condensed, simple and effective methods of shaping sound. Thanks a lot for sharing your experience here. ☮
@@kubamajerczyk9087 glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching
Same here on that like button...thank you for sharing this valuable information for free Joe!! Sample Pack here I come! I got to add Bill and Gretchen to my arsenal.
Thank you! I am really proud of that sample pack.
Thanks Joe, great video. I took notes, will be trying some stuff for sure! 🎉
@@geertteekens best wishes man!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks, same to you!
Fantastic Joe. Thanks very much for the great video
Thank you Joey!
This is exactly what I was looking for as a beginning mixer..
@@reeldriver very nice! Best wishes ✌🏼✌🏼
Always love your video's!😁
@@poxleno thank you sir!!
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We share pretty much the exact same taste in plugins :)
Awesome video, subscribed!
Thank you, John!
Nice mix !
@@israelricardomusic thank you sir ✌🏼
Fantastic! Thancks for the video, really enjoible and helpfull!
@@robsonfal glad you enjoyed it Rob 👊🏼
sample sounds sweet
Thank you! Drum Sample Shop
Hi Joe, thank you for another great video. On a couple of occasions you mentioned that the approach to mixing darker drums for Americana or Indie music would be totally different. Can you give us a couple of ideas how your approach would change? (… or maybe that’s an idea for a follow up video? :))
Yeah maybe another video on that topic is a good idea 👍 thank you for watching!
Thanks for this Joe...absolutely priceless. Gear review request: Warm Audio WA-412 4-channel Microphone Preamp
@@thomasherbert9970 I have 3 of those! Great boxes.
thanks Joe for job you doing for us :)
@@pawel86a glad to do it and thank you for following along!!
Awesome tutorial and very informative to see your approach and techniques. Thanks Joe!!
Thank you for watching!!
Great tutorial, I appreciate you letting us "in".
Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you very much for watching Michael.
Great video.
@@davidr1620 thank you!!
Excellent video, Joe!
@@sigurdaas1929 thank you!!
I want all my drums to sound this good 🎉
They will!!
ERES UN MAESTRO TU HAS SIDO MI INSPIRACION PARA SER UN INGENIERO, SIEMPRE VEO TUS VIDEO DESDE EL PRIMER DIA QUE SALIERON DIOS TE BENDIGA
@@studioInoa I don’t know what that says, but hopefully you liked the video haha. Best wishes
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell YOU ARE A TEACHER YOU HAVE BEEN MY INSPIRATION TO BE AN ENGINEER, I ALWAYS WATCH YOUR VIDEOS SINCE THE FIRST DAY THEY CAME OUT GOD BLESS YOU
@@studioInoa very nice! Glad to be able to help on your journey!
Awesome Video!
Thank you!
Great!!! Thanx!!!
Thank you!
That was awesome. I learned a lot from that.
@@dkpitt3912 great to hear! Thank you for watching.
these raw drums are my mastered drums xD
@@S.ethMusic haha thank you buddy. I hope this video helps you continue growing!!
Hey Joe, great vid, man!
@@guitboxgeek thank you!
Perfect!!!!
It's really useful! Big thx
You’re welcome!
Hi Joe! Do you sometimes use fast attack on SSL channel strip gate?
Absolutely. Overheads and drums room almost always get fast attack. Hat as well. Hopefully I detailed that in the video if you have had a chance to watch it. Tom’s, snare, kick get regular attack because fast attack removes the transient too much
I've been tweaking how I route everything in my mix template a little recently, and this made me want to change even more! I'm Interested in how you buss the bass and drums together, do you have a video on that already? Would love to hear more about why you do and what to watch out for/ how to do it well!
Hey John I do have a video on the Plug In Alliance channel that discusses that. Let me find it and paste a link below.
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@@InTheMixJoeCarrell I found that video about 5 minutes after I left this comment haha! Such a rad way to use subgroups, gonna have to try it out next mix
@@JohnLawrieTWS awesome. Best wishes
Thank you.
@@hakangurdol thank you for watching!!
It's very good. I thank you.🙂🙂🙂
Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you, you are a good teacher, and we Iranians who cannot see original teachings due to political sanctions, your page can be our best teacher, thank you ❤️🙏
@@mohamadrezaahmadi6bloki660 Great. Glad to help. Best wishes
Great video!
Thank you!
great stuff
@@andretibian2635 thank you Andre!
I didn’t even know they made a sa2rate plugin. I’ll have to grab that! I like to use inactive plugin copies of my hardware inserts, so I can set the plugin knobs exactly how I did irl, which makes recall a breeze if I ever need to.
@@ItsMetabtw thanks for watching!
you are best!!
@@k4343011 thank you!
big like from "ISRAEL" !!
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Great video. I'm still just above beginner level on a lot of things. Toms and snare are still a challenge. Side stick too, I can never get that light airy sound, it always sounds way too beefy! Lol
Thanks for watching Marc! Hope this was helpful
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Thank you for watching!
great video! do you happen to have a video where you go through your "trigger" process? saw it on the thumbnail ha
@@chucknkd The closest thing I can think of is an Instagram reel that I made one time showing how I load up a bunch of presets and check them each within the song to see which one works best. Since there’s eight slots, I will have all eight full, but only one of them unmuted and I can toggle between them to audition. So I have some presets named “my favorite hi guys” and “my favorite lo guys” for example that each have eight sounds ready to hear.
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Thank you for watching!
Hey Joe! Great tips as always. Question! You may have said it and I missed it but do you know what mics and preamps/external hardware was used in the initial recording? Thanx man!
@@JeffWald thank you Jeff. That was quite a few years ago and I don’t Remember what we had on that room. I’m pretty sure it was a B52 inside the kick and 57s too and bottom of the snare. That’s about all I know for sure unfortunately.
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@@QuangTruongProducer thank you for watching!
For the longest time I've been using api eq plugins on my kick mics and while they're not bad, I thought I'd try the ssl instead. I find the ssl a lot smoother.
Another awesome classes! Why do you ceiling the drum bus? Thanks, Joe!
Good question. I want to chop of a few of the loudest Random transient spikes before they hit the stereo buss. That way the whole stereo buss grouping isn’t being hit from those random spikes. So no effect to vocals, guitars, etc. thanks for watching Luke!
I do the same, but usually with a clipper 👌
Do you offer any type of course outside of UA-cam that teaches how to mix and how to set up a DAW for a session etc.? I could use some extra beginner level help as I feel like I know nothing. Haha.
@@southisaac I do absolutely. There are three of them on Pro Mix Academy. I would recommend either the Kayley Bishop one if you work with a lot of real instruments or the Mackenzie Johnson one if you do more synthetic pop tracks. Thank you!!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrellWonderful. I am going to check that out right now. My son is a drummer and I record drum covers and post to UA-cam. Thank you sir. This will be a tremendous help.
@@southisaac nice! Thank you
About auto align I use it during editing never during the mixing session
@@Vossflying very often I’m starting right at the mix with something I’ve never heard before. But much like you are saying, if I find I need it, I very often re-commit the drum tracks and work from the new aligned files in a playlist.
Thanks for the shared knowledge 🙏 Are you ever using HEAT on your tracks ?
Because I have always had Phoenix from Crane Song (makers of Heat), I had always used that instead.
Awesome content thank you for your knowledge!! I know it all depends on the player and the set , but is there a kick drum mic you find easier to mix when you get kick tracks(maybe for rock/pop)? I’m the market for one and it’s between the AKG D112 and the beta 52a. They both have pretty distinct sounds I was just wondering if there was one that had a starting point that gets you to the mix faster?
@@nicholasvegas2899 for whatever reason I lean towards the 52. I have a 112 but kind of tired of it. Now I use the 52 for more aggressive Music, the vintage D12 for jazz or big band, and for some really round Americana I use the Lewitt kick mic
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell thank you so much! I was leaning 52 as well. I’ve just started my journey in mixing and your content has been so helpful. Thanks for all the work!
@Mixing Drums // Joe Carrell how would you recommend treating room mic and if you have more then 1
@@GILLISH I just blend them to taste if there are things that are different but I like about multiple tracks. Sometimes I’ll cut all the low end out of one if it gets too thick etc.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell good to know i usually cut the low and top end but thank u
@@GILLISH yeah top end too on most every room mic whether I’m using 1 or 4 passes.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell ok thank you
The drums still sound pretty good to start with and there are already plug-ins on them?
@@thebeatclinic9000 no just the raw recordings. So only any eq that was applied during tracking
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@@GloveBunniesVideos 🎉🎉🎉
I know Joe Carrell knows what he’s doing. But when I see an instructional video titled “Mixing Drums” or fill in the blank - guitars, vocals - I just have to shake my head.
I’ve made records 45 years and I still have never used the same setup on a drum kit twice. Even in a live show, which is a bit of a specialty for me, the drums get changed to fit each song, and sometimes profoundly changed.
There’s a lot to learn here but definitely don’t get the wrong idea. How to mix music is about as valid as how to sing. It just makes zero sense to imply any sound is the right one.
@@artysanmobile well I agree and disagree. The tools and approaches can be very similar repeatedly. Of course the compressor attack and release, equalization, type and amount of effects will all change on a song by song basis…it is also the job of some veteran engineers that have acquired a lot of knowledge and were blessed enough to have great veteran mentors teach us and allow us to watch over their shoulder when we were young and getting started. I luckily stay so busy that I don’t actually have time to teach. However, I feel it’s my responsibility as a very blessed veteran that has reached this level to help inspire and teach others what they have never been lucky enough to experience. Many will simply never get “in the room” but are still hungry to be the best they can be even if it’s only on their own arrangements from their bedroom. Rather than learn from someone who’s never been succesful and is also limited in experience, of course these friends deserve to learn from people that have been living it every day for decades. I take that duty serious and will continue dropping videos so they can not only see drums, vocals, etc, BUT ALSO see it from one song and one genre to another and study what may be different and how I handled it. They may not get to truly study under me the way I did daily for three years as an assistant to a very succesful dude, but I can can give them the next best thing right from their couch in Iowa! Have a good one
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks for taking the time to give your perspective, Joe. I truly understand it.
@@artysanmobile thank you for watching !
What are your go-to gear compressors for the kick?
@@TelecasterMod for mixing it’s the SSL channel strip or a distressor. When tracking it’s either LA2a ( yes LA2a haha) or DBX 160
Man, I'm pretty good at getting a great kick drum sound. And I'm okay with snare. But I really struggle with toms. I have a song I'm working on right now that has a very tom-centric part. I want them to sound big, but every time I try to achieve that I just end up with a bunch of low-pitched ringing that gets in the way of everything else. If I cut out that ringing, the toms sound too thin and overly bright. Compression helps some, but it still hasn't solved the issue. And I find that reverb only exacerbates the ringing. My reference point is something like "My Hero" by Dave Grohl. Yes, I know those drums are double-tracked. But that makes it even more impressive that they still sound tight even while there's this massive sense of space.
I would say there’s no guaranteed treatment for any Tom. It’s always going to vary, depending on the drums themselves and how they were recorded. I get stuff in here that can get no better than “usable“ at best. Sometimes it’s the source and only something like sample enhancement can salvage the day.
What interface/convertors were you using in this video?
@@rtsasa1 my main mix system is AVID IO boxes. But the output of that rig and the speaking mic was captured with a UA Apollo x4
I try to translate your techniques on your state of the art PTs studio with my own ancient Cubase Nuendo DAW (circa 2005 build) -
@@michaelmestres9661 absolutely! I’m sure there are some very similar plug-ins and routing methods that will allow you to achieve the same type of results. Best wishes Michael!
ive asked on warran huart's channel before and you *kind of* chimed in...but how would you approach drum breaks?
Give me an example. Like a specific genre thing?
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell yeah breaks are typically used in hip hop/R&b/Pop/etc. Would love to see how you approach giving them beefier sounds.
@@FromTheHipp I keep a third effects send channel ready to go with a few different things for appearing just in breaks and huge fills. Also sometimes flanging. Let me send a video link to something I did for Produce Like A Pro recently that may be helpful.
@@FromTheHipp ua-cam.com/video/wSNdwTi6xsc/v-deo.htmlsi=VcufuOhmG9eZ-Lu2
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell amazing. thank you. gonna check it out now!
Here's the song in a very raw form... Sounds pretty much done to me hahahaha
@@_thaaatguy thanks for watching!!
This is something that is missing... not all songs call for rock style drums. I work mainly in the reggae genre, which is never smashed to oblivion to get a massive ambience. We need a more objective overview of what is possible.
@@jemwand2530 glad you enjoyed it!
whoa whoa whoa, why is Joe using the SSL channel strip and not the PA SSL channel strip, sacrilege and blasphemy
I use both!! Thanks for watching 🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell only kidding! just used to seeing you in the PA videos
cheers
@@sysxtemhahah. I figured!
This is really cool, however (In my opinion) people lack time spent critically listening to music across different genres and time. The biggest fault I see when I get a “really cool” rough mix is that though the processing of some items may sound right, but the sum (mix) of everything doesn’t quite fit together. Basically people don’t have the experience to know what to do with a reverb, compressor, etc.
Learning the sound and expectations of various genres are absolutely critical for most professionals. Most of us nowadays in order to make a living need to work across multiple genres.
What’s the song name?
@@matthewh2012 that was “Lifetime” by Jenn Cove. I produced an EP for her back in 16 or 17.
why are we doing so much tweaking in solo? how can you be boosting and cutting highs on a snare or kick totally out of context? I've been told not to do that for years. LOL
One of the main reasons, as mentioned in the video, is that this is a drum specific video. So people can hear exactly what’s going on. But that said I also begin a lot of my mixes with decisions about how the drums should be shaped and proceed to build from that “Color”. Thanks for watching.
I would also add that IMO, anyone who teaches that there is a single absolute wrong and right way to get to the finish line is incorrect. I know absolute stud Hitmaker mixers that start with drums and bass only, some that start with vocals in solo and build from there, and yet others that work so the all faders up and and takeoff. Everyone has to find the approach that works for them.
I literally know one legend who mixed hundreds of the biggest pop classics of the late 70s-2000s that, as his career and ear developed, processed one or two tracks at a time in solo using hardware and analog tape and printed all those results back into ProTools two tracks at a time. Then brought that session up on the faders to actually do his balancing and final touches. Took sooo much time per song, but that is what worked for his brain.
Best wishes 🎉