Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge - Testing Battle Fortress
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- Опубліковано 10 січ 2020
- Battle Fortress is the Allied "Toy" as Zofia calls it. It's the ultimate Allied vehicle available for 2000 resources which makes one of the most expensive units in the game along with the Kirov and the elite naval.
The Battle Fortress is well armored capable of sustaining quite some damage. Although not as durable as the Apocalypse tank, it has much better speed which makes very unique and versatile with it's ability to store units.
Garrisoning units in a Battle Fortress is what makes it quite unstoppable. The final result may come quite expesnive but in the end it pays of if controlled correctly. The combinations are can quite unlimited.
The Battle Fortress on its own doesn't pose a huge threat. Instead of a Cannon it has a Machine Gun which is effective against infantry but not against vehicles. However, it still has a unique ability to crush nearly all vehicles in the game.
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Holy smokes that 5 Boris Battle Fortress! This should be illegal!
There should be a law banning this kind of stuff, too cruel :)
It is ilegal. You cant get more than one Boris per rusian player unless you capture a yuri mcv or are yuri yourself and then you also need the allied WF and tech center to make the battle fortress. I supose you could begin as yuri, work your way up to a yuri prime and try caping enemy buildings or mcvs, that gets you max 2 Boris and battle fortresses. You would then need other players to cooperate and provide you with the other 3 Boris. Unless you cheat, play a custom map or coordinate your enemies and allies towards this single goal, it just wont happen.
69 likes. Don't change that!
The price must be insane!
FightingDopamine Levels Actually the more evil thing than this is five elite PSI commando in a battle fortress. It can dissolve a huge army without taking a single hit
You missed the MOST INTERESTING thing about Battle Fortresses, not sure if you know this already, but I'll say it anyway.
When you are facing a Yuri AI, and you have access to either Yuri's Clone, or Psychic Commando, load them into the Battle Fortress and drive it into the Yuri base. It will act like a better version of Mastermind that knows self control. Plus, the Battle Fortress can be mind controlled, but the mind control units you loaded inside will still be yours. Yuri's AI will most likely send the BF to the Grinder, but in the mean time, enjoy watching everyone in the Yuri base mind controlled to your side and tearing their own comrades apart.
I call this, the Mind Control Trojan Horse.
Seems legit bro... I never knew it could be fun. Lemme try this move
@@MoondropSimulacra Enjoy, I discovered this one back when I was younger, it was fun to watch until the BF got crushed by the Grinder, which is what Yuri's AI do to mind controlled units anyway.
Thanks, this was helpful!
Damn I played this games probably millions of times and never tried this or knew. Always finding new secrets.
Destroy grinder right away so they can’t put the bf to grinder 😁 I guess it’s
not that easy unless you got Apoc mind controlled.
1:47
*Rolling thunder intensifies*
Test the Hollywood heroes next!
in Soviet Bunkers
If you garrison battle fortress with yuri clone when your battle fortress got mind control by enemy, the clone inside are still on your side and can mind control enemy unit!! And when get attacked by magnetron ,they also can use mind control in mid air . May be i was wrong, but i remember I found this when playing online
that’s crazy. Maybe they can control air units like kirov midair?
@@estellebright2579 I don't think they can
@@sukasuka7292 actually you can. I accidentally did this many years ago. I palced my yuri clone near a soviet war factory. The moment a kirov was produced, it was still on the ground and ready to float, so my yuri controlled that kirov :)
@@RickyRicheRebelle If yuri is nearby to warfactory when Kirov start floating up, you can mind control it. It is when battlefortress with yuri inside is pulled by magnetron that I don't think can mind control already aired Kirov airship.
you know this one is a better version of mastermind in which you can control up to 5 units without self destruction
Apocalypse Tank: Soviet Power Supreme
Battle Fortress with 5 Guardian G.I.'s: you sure about that mate?
Change from Guardian GI to Tesla Trooper
@ ปืนโบริสยิงฐานมันกระป๋องกระแป๋งสิ
Battle Fortress = $ 2,000
Guardian G.I. = $ 500 per man
Total cost = 2,000 + (500 x 5) = $ 4,500
Meanwhile, Apocalypse Tank = $ 1,750 (no Industrial Plant)
You're comparing $ 4,500 unit to a $ 1,750 unit, barring extreme hard counter, there's no way a $1,750 unit can win.
4 guardians and a seal
machaiping you can bring on 5 apocalypse tanks, BF wins with range and insane efficiency.
The reason I love this video rather than simply like it is because of all the accurate info it has.
Wonder how that happened :P
I see you were having fun with x5 elite Boris
Its really OP to use battle fortress with 5 elite tesla troopers inside. I could say it is electrifying cuz they replace tesla tank. I might call them the tesla fortress.
Tesla fortress, the upgraded tesla tank is an ifv with a telsa trooper
No it's not OP, I tested it. First it's very expensive $4500, that's more than 3 apocalypse tanks under Industrial plant. Its range is mediocre, can't siege and you are extremely vulnerable to mind control. It's versatile on land and even if unit dies, you get 5 tesla troopers, but then it gets kinda messy.
Not OP at all.
If anything, a Battle Fortress with 5 Elite Psychic Commandos is all the more terrifying. They transform the Battle Fortress into a Mastermind with an even longer mind control range without the drawbacks of overloading.
@@o-geeogerio3182 countered only by air units and robot tank swarm
5 GIs are better. They deal twice as much DPS to infantry and buildings as Tesla, and almost as much DPS to tanks. GIs also have more range than Tesla Troopers which matters a lot.
Battle fortress with 5 presidents... MAKE IT HAPPEN
As if the deadly President/Cow IFV wasn't deadly enough...
Great video! Red alert 2 has the most in depth thought out features..
And in said Red Alert 2 all what people do is play rush games.
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Thanks for sharing these tests!
Great video. So much good information. Keep up the good work
8:39 "AC 130-the tank"
Maan I love you how you manage to make my dreams a reality with every video and testing of yours.
4:22 i think the AEGIS has finally met its match
Battle Fortress: Ho so you're approaching me? Instead of running away you approach me?
Apocs Tank: I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer.
Battle Fortress: Ho. Then come as much as you wanted.
I admit that these two are rival
Edit: I change the format cuz battle fortress can do RODA ROLLA DA
Stand name: [ROLLING THUNDER]
Stand user: battle fortress
Stand battlecry: ROADA ROLLA DA!!
@@omkr0122 *shoot with 2 cannons* ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
@@omkr0122 (*'▽'*)?
9:39 mummies watching from the distance, mummy vid when?
Cool stuff ss always. I wonder if u used map edit to add five Borises or modded cloning vats. And yeah remaster ra2!!! :D Also hint about next video in the final zoom? ;)
Boris came after adding 4 cloning vats, a map created by TAK02!
yay ! The video is finally out ! Thx u :D
One of the most fun units to use in Yuri's Revenge. Used to build lots of these and have each of them carry 4 Guardian GIs and 1 Sniper/Navy SEAL for all-around role.
AMAZING! that battle fortress is really something to worry about with some elite units inside.
You should test the crate upgrades, if you haven't already. DO they stack? How much speed, armor, firepower do they add? How does it work on each unit, even the special ones? Does the speed upgrade decrease the time for chrono legionaires to teleport? Etc :)
Funny enough it's my next video.... but with lots of surprises! It will be divided into two parts thanks to the extra content from TAKO2!
good video, but i think you left out some scenarios.
when static and attacked or doing an unintentional drive by, it behave differently then when being ordered to attack
I didn't give a damn back then about battle fortress back then, now finding out how powerful this vehicle can be when loaded with the right infantry.
I never ever use battle fortress, Yuri clones can still mind control that unit. Nice info thanks 👍
put a sniper in there
Haha the video at the end. I was wondering what happened. I hope tg makes videos for the remastered games coming up.
8:43
HE"S GONE MAD WITH POWER
0:16 - I had genuinely forgotten that the Battle Fortress has its own gun.
Imagine having to garrison units to be cost effective.
This post was made by the Apocalypse Tank Gang
Great vid tho, I've loved them all
Totally agree with the last line that battle fortress said in the end
Would like to see the competition between that ultimate Fire Power-upgraded Battle Fortress with 5 Elite GIs and Elite AEGIS Cruiser.
7:59 i think boris meant, dont mess with US! ☭ ☭ ☭
A true communist
fun fact: if you put a sniper of any rank in an IFV, the IFV will use the elite version of the sniper weapon.
I agree, im waiting for them to remaster RA2 and YR
The best way to combine battle fortress and Guardians GI is let them auto atk and we must have sight without fog, if force atk battle fortress will get close the target and easily shutdown by the tower, let they auto atk they will fire at incredible range that tower cant touch
TG there is a game breaking bug with Chrono Legionnaires.
If the Chrono Legionnaires attack a building that is being garrisoned BEFORE the Infantry reach it and erase it the game WILL instantly crash on the frame the building is removed.
Oh, so that's what happened when I played skirmish and I delete some random building with chrono legionnaires, the A.I must have been ordered some of it's infantries to Garrison inside one of the building I deleted
Would be interesting to see how the 5 guardian GIs with firepower upgrade compared to an elite aegis
5:25 IFVs can be promoted by attacking friendly units as well?
That's only because it has Chrono Legionnaire inside.
Yes... that's was crazy stuff i ever heard about these chrono legionnaires thing. Always
Now to think about it, Chrono legionnares basically "erase" anyone causing it as a kill, either friend or foe. You can't tell since the target can no longer be recognizable. All you know is that you got a kill.
@@WindiChilliwack lol
@@liliwinnt6 Da Comrade.
Hey tg, could you make a april fools test video about slaves? How they promoted, how much damge they do, etc?
I will test them along with some extra special units. ;)
Tour of Egypt back in the day that was a pure 3 Vs 3 needed help from other factions, 4 desolater and 1 seal in the BF was nice but my fave was always the demobomb, flak track filled with terrorists
The combination I tend to do with a platoon of Battle Fortresses is 2 GIs, 2 Guardian GIs, and a Navy SEAL as a sort of all-rounder. The GIs tend to do better damage against buildings and okay against tanks, the Guardian GIs rip through tanks even with just 2, of them and the Navy SEAL rips through any infantry along the way. Maybe a bit overkill and I could just equip one of the BF with a Navy SEAL and load either an additional GI or Guardian GI with the other, but I expect to lose a few BFs along the way so yeah.
My favorite mixed combo would be either a Virus or Sniper, Guardian GIs, and Tesla Troopers.
Don't need the Navy Seal tbh. 2 GIs kill infantry rapidly. You'll face more vehicles than infantry at high level play.
you need the seals inside BF to eliminate the russian spider drones . them pesky drones always wreck havoc to my tanks when playing with my pals.
so 2 seals + 3 guardian GIs would do the trick/
Can you also make a video with elite desolators inside? They are also super strong because they have massive range and fire rate
When units get promoted inside of a BF, does the units instant gain better firepower/range or does the BF have to deploy them to take effect. When deployed the exiting units will flash showing promotion
A BF can run over Kirov? Or were those grounded?
Units can't be promoted inside a Battle Fortress. You need to promote them first and then put them inside.
The Kirovs were landed.
Could you deconstruct how garrison's work in this game? Particularly concerning how the different faction units function differently, if at all.
I'll do something!
AK is actually stronger than M60 in Red Alert 2 but sadly got neft in Red Alert 3 :D
Does Boris use the laser target designator inside the battle fortress?
isn't the voice of Slave Miner and Battle Fortress the same?
No
Video aside, I’m trying to play RA2 and Yuri’s revenge on my pc, but I have problems everytime I try to play YR. i patched it and placed a file in the games data folder to stop the game having weird colours and squishing and even have it in compatibility mode to windows XP service pack 3, but every so often it’ll have this weird glitch where I can see origin flashing in then suddenly it’ll freeze for a brief moment. Anyone know how to fix this?
wanted to see how well it does against tanks with GI or GuardianGi inside =,(
You can see how fast an Apoc is going down with Gis inside. A Rhino Tank would go down 2 times faster while a Grizzly at about 3 times.
I hope that helps a bit. :D
a remaster of this game would be lit
If you have a Chrono Legionairre in a fortress, will the other units inside start targetting another hostile unit if the chrono legionairre is still removing a unit? Can the fortress move while a legionairre is working from inside?
The legionairre wil target 1 units or structure while the others unit can target others unit around the fortress its a useful stratergy when your attacking a fortified base by putting a legionaire inside so he can remove the denfensive structure while the others unit inside defend the battle fortress against others enemy units/building sadly the fortress will have to be standing still the whole time when removing the units/buildings tho
The battle fortress can move yes and the rest units will be attacking other targets but not the same.
It can move within chrono legionaire weapon range while chrono legionaire erasing the unit or structure without breaking the process.
Not sure if you tested this in another video, but if you load Tesla Troopers into a Battle Fortress, they will power up a nearby Tesla Coil from inside.
So... what's the best anti-air unit now?
You just know the game is too good. If until now we are still watching this vids.
Will a yuri clone or prime able to mind controll a battle fortress including infantry units inside or just the tank itself?
Can the infantry inside Battle Fortress be promoted similar to when they are garrisoned?
Can you do small superweapons and give a list of units that work well with Iron curtain and chronosphere
Yeah, I thinking of making something like this.
@@tsiripas thx
I would have also liked:
Which units are quicker/slower than Elite Battle Fortress. Which ones can it outrun while destroying them in the process by loaded Guardian GI's?
Elite Apocalypse one on one with Elite Battle Fortress loaded with Elite Guardian GI's.
How many Elite Apocalypse Tanks are needed to take on Elite Battle Fortress with 5 Elite Yuris (firepower upgraded)
lite Battle Fortress with 5 Elite Yuris (firepower upgraded) or some other strong "crew" vs Magnetron+water or Mastermind. Who wins? How long if maxed out snipers are loaded?
Elite Battle Fortress with 5 Tesla Troopers; Initiates (are they overpowered?)
Can Mastermind control Battle Fortress loaded with Tanya, Yuri, Yuri Prime
What does Boris do to structures when in a battle fortress?
Boris Battle Fortress goes full John Wick mode
You should try this 1v1:
An elite Battle fortress with 4 tesla trooper and 1 boris (all elite)
VS
Apocalypse x5
heres the best combo: elite guardian gis + elite battle fortress and better: elite guardian gis and a battle fortress with them powered by the fire power crate
One thing you didn't test. Units inside of BF vs Units outside of BF, cause I thought units inside will also have a bit more bite by something like 20% attack power bonus in addition to range. Should use GGIs or GIs or anything that doesn't quite One Shot Infantry like SEALS or Tanya. Cause' IIRC on the base RulesMD file which I still have:
OpenToppedRangeBonus=2;bonuses for troops shooting from open topped transport
OpenToppedDamageMultiplier=1.2
Can you test battle fortresses with all infantry types? Please include special infantry made available by spying battle labs: psi commando, chrono commando, chrono ivan and etc
My favorite might be Tesla trooper battle fortresses. Many nasty zaps!
How did you get Kirov airships that stay on the ground?
The apoc is really out classed by a BF with just GIs in it. If you see an upgraded BF coming to your base, you should be scared.
Battle fortress full of buff Boris in a tank bunker and with chaos drone gas.
Are units inside the battle fortress even affected by tank bunker or chaos drone?
Battle fortresses cant enter tank bunkers
But what about Elite BF with power upgrade with x5 elite boris with power upgrade?
Crusing enermy's tanks with this thing always gives me satisfactory.
@hi there ok, I admitted I was not right in the head when I wrote that. Thanks by the way
I always tried to use this set up in battle fortreces (campaign):
Seal, Yuri clone, chronotrooper, and the rest 2 defence GI.
In this confuguration is propably the most unpenetrable unit in the game.
but the planes can kill it
Pease tell me why the veteran died before the streak of life was empty on 0:22 ?
Also - how is it possible, that the damage of an unit garrisoned inside is not affected, yet 1 Seal can instakill a terror drone, whereas on its own it's hopeless?
I want to see how boris in battle fortress act to structure
Kittiphum Sopa I tested that with two borises and it does no damage just like the seal does agains tanks
5 Boris inside a battle fortress is broken, but as far as I know, it's impossible to get more than two Boris during normal gameplay :o
That is the power of map editors.
Put 5 of the same infantry into one and get the power of 6. When you carry 5 GIs inside, the damage against all targets is insane. Especially against structures, it makes Apocs and Prisms look like Tank Destroyers.
You need to be careful when using them against Yuri. I saw my BFs sometimes chasing after an enemy unit without me ordering them to. Now I understand when people say they require a lot of micromanagement.
Will I make practical use of the knowledge gained watching this video? No. Am I glad I watched the video? Totally! 😂 Indeed, that 5 Boris BF is crazy. Just as well it'd be practically impossible to make it in a match I guess.
Question: Best units to put in battle fortress? (no special units)
My top 3 are (all units at highest rank):
1.) 1 seal, 4 guardians
2.) 1 seal, 2 chrono legionnaire, 2 guardians
3.) 1 seal, 4 tesla trooper
what do you think is the best battle fortress combo?
1 desolator, 4 tesla troopers the desolator has superior rate of fire compared to the sniper or virus and less expensive than the SEAL, the tesla troopers have superior anti-infantry, anti-armor, and anti-structure although has abyssmal rate of fire but compensates for firepower capabilities. To maximize in getting 4 tesla troopers for the price of 2 capture a Yuri base and build a cloning vat.
Also best force compostion with battle fortresses for Allied: 10 battle fortress with 1 sniper and 4 guardian GI each and 10 prism tanks. For Soviets also 10 battle fortress with 1 desolator and 4 tesla trooper each and 12 apocalpyse tanks or 24 rhino tanks. For Yuri also 10 battle fortress with 1 virus and 4 initiates each with 12 magnetrons and 10 floating disc.
Jeez, now I learn that the promotion of a battle fortress doesnt affect the garrisoned units??
Battle fortress (with guardian GI) vs AEGIS
5 Flak Troopers vs 5 Gurdian GIs for Anti Air, whats better?
That depends if you use flak troopers your anti-air has an area effect ability that can destroy multiple air units and groups of infantry, if you use guardian GI your firepower is superior when you focus on a single air unit and the added benefit of anti-armor capabilites.
never thought i'd say this, but those poor kirovs XD
04:20 - I don't get it... why is the left BF stronger against the Kirov, when it contains the exact same units as the Right one?
It got the firepower buff from the crate
@@Reverae ah, I see.
Did the crate affect only the GI that picked it up, or ALL the GI's around it? :O
@@kurzackd Crate bonuses are a small AOE (Area of effect) so yes, it affected everyone that's near the crate which is why it's always important to have many of your units surround a crate since it might give instant promotions, movement speed buff or firepower buff like in the video :).
@@Reverae cheers! :)
testing civilians next
Open fire 🔥
8:45 now infect it with Chaos drone
WOOOOOO!!!!!
you should try it with 3star desolators or tesla unit and see the result ^^
Whem I get bored I use 4 veteran tesla troopers and 1 veteran GI in BF and then I just easely destroy any base in a couple of seconds
Mastermind = can mind control up to 4 units but self destructs so up to 3 units only.
Battle Fortress w/ 5 Yuri clones = can mind control 5 units and still won't self destruct.
Just get 2 masterminds. Should be cheaper.
@@1q34w Borrow that Battle Fortress from enemy, so you have it for free.
@@1q34w But at least BF's are much safer when controlling units instead of overloading with the Masterminds.
Yes but the cost is 6k
Just buy four masterminds they can selfheal when damaged
Can units be promoted inside the battle fortress?
Nope!
The strat i used to do is add 4 guardian gis and 1 seal, its broken
It can crush kirov on groud!
Can someone link me Yuri's revenge client which is being used to play with other players
How defeat battle fortress full of javelin gis any weakness?
Overwhelm it with alot of tanks or infantry (if it doesn't have a seal) or distract it with fodder units to have a yuri clone to mind control it.
Can a unit be promoted while being garrisoned in battlefortress?
Like the case with garrisoned buildings
no
No, units can't be promoted when inside the Battle Fortress.
No it can’t. But would be super cool if they can.
Aight thanx mate
@@tsiripas Wait? They dont? I thought they can be promoted.
How can you land kirovs? 🤔
Can a battle fortress crush an evil mummy or T. rex?
A mummy yes but a T.rex? hmmmm...
@@tsiripas Time to fire up some tests on the melee units in the game (Brute, Slave, T rex).
Spectre that will come but a bit later
Battlefortress with ants inside!
Boris: Who said bullets are weak against armored vehicles?
Tanya: My dear, If you shoot tank shells from assault rifle, this doesn't mean, that you shoots bullets.
GI: wait, what? Am I also not shooting bullets from my machine gun?
i lovew this with 4 GI and 1 english snipers