Idk why he said that tbh... Inaros got good damage too. Especially grouping up enemies with 2, pressing 4 on them, applying the corrosive and then having even more corrosive with melee exposure
I know this isn't meta for a lot of people but I swear by my Rhino thermal sunder build. Max efficiency, good bit of range and as much strength as you can get.
I’d argue growing power is better than corrosive project specifically for a terrify set up. Since terrify scales so well on strength, growing power is nearly a full corrosive while also benefiting other abilities and not losing value later on from molt augmented giving you a full strip anyways. That’s only if the aura change doesn’t affect your other set ups though
@@noahedenborg4221 What’s the point of molt augmented ( in every mirage build btw) in the build then? That’s like 20 something kills, a strength shard or Madurai. Way too many easy sources for strength for that to be an argument. No matter what CP becomes useless in any long mission because of molt augmented. If the mission isn’t long enough to get stacks then why do you even care about the full armor strip?
This a very creative build, I’m wondering if one uses all of the archon mods with her 2nd will it proc many of those benefits, I know her 4th does radiation damage as well. I added nourish because I wanted to be able to add an extra layer of damage.
Question for companions, specifically sentinels. I was always under the impression that you needed assault mode/calculated shot to enable the sentinel to attack. But his build doesn't have that equipped? Am I wasting a mod slot?
this build is very expensive and very mid. recommended 5 Tauforged shards, Primed Sure Footed (time gated mod) and one of the best Kuva weapons. all that second build is, is running around with a damage buff and using an AOE weapon. other frames can do the same thing but better and for cheaper. the first one is straight buns. "never use the damage negation buff" actually insane. survivability only comes from Rolling Guard and terrify as a crowd control lmao. you cant even full strip till you build Molt and have a specific Focus School. if you didnt choose that school you need to farm Molt even more. how are you gunna make a snowball build with low survivability. also recommending the Grimoire while having Primed Flow, Arcane Energize, Archon Stretch, and Equilibrium for more energy sustainability without a grouping ability AND terrify? both builds are a complete waste of resources, and it misguides new players or people that dont have a lot of knowledge of the game.
Hate videos like this. You assume everyone gets the fast paced lingo. Get to the point, and maybe explain to the newbies what eclipse is, etc. Be more thorough. And dumb it down.
In my opinion, the helminth version of eclipse should be around 50% from mirage's base stats. So ~100% damage increase *base* instead of the current 30% or the old 150%. That would still be less then before but strong enough to make eclipse viable. Or let it have the same effect as roar lmao.
Im actually using your former prism nuke build but replaced transient fortitude with blind rage and the 2nd ability with nourish. It works really well.
Hahaha, you going off about the damage reduction not being used expect that one person when I recently watched a MHBlacky video about possibly using that for Inaros build. I love this
My lord, I am new player and have been saying "I wish i could switch the DMG buff to be tap instead of hold" and when i saw 1:50 let me tell you i was going to cry. Thank you
DE destroying its own game, we made many others frames based on eclipse but all is destroyed. Because they analyze data of all players which is a wrong way. And people who think its not a balance game lets debuff stuff, why than Players should struggle to farm stuff if they keep doing this debuff eventually we will switch to other games, maybe Soul Frame and its what they really want from us ;)
This doesnt have to do anything with the video but GOD BLESS THE SOUL OF THE MF WHO MADE THE NEW ENEMY DROP 3 ENTRATI LANTHORNS it has made my life worth living again
Knightmare saying the 90% dr from eclipse is useless on other frames... My m8 kullervo and any frame without shieldgating would like to have a word. Yes im aware eclipse alone wont keep me alive but i still prefer running eclipse than Kullervo's in endurance runs since with adaptation you get the same survivability as a maxed out Nidus (without the passive but thats what i use overguard gating for)
Ok so I assume the favonius codex isnt like a thing anymore? Cause the internet is a wasteland of garbage on any info on it. First Knightmare frame video has left me red hot mad with trying to figure out info that would have taken 2 seconds to explain. thanks.
Can someone tell me which build is better? Gun build or prism. Prism looks very good with armour strip and high kpm but seems more complicated. I don’t have arcane energise so was gonna go with the gun build. Can anyone offer me some advice? I’m mr 12
I run pillage instead of prism and have 656% damage buff and destroy everything this in my opinion is not as good as the build I made from watching this at least could be wrong got my build from overframe and tweaked it.
At one point I could not follow the movement because I had the video on 2x speed. Really caused to strain my eyes, wow. Anyways, sounds like a good build, but would have to transfer shards across the board. Also, can not gain arcane energizer, there is that problem.
Bro are you putting destiny 2 weapon names over some of your weapons? 😂 I saw mida mini tool last time and full on thought you could get it and saw the other half in this one now I’m wondering if those are actual weapons 😂
Yeah the fact they gutted eclipse helminth is by far the dumbest thing de have ever done and they've done exactly the same with other ability strength ability strength helminths
why not use the damage reduction?? if you play a dmg frame or use weapons that don't need a damage buff then this is a good way to stay alive. especially with mirage.
I thought the devs said that the changes to eclipse was going to basically turn it into a serration, which would be additive to your base damage. Am I missing something? Why is it so strong on her? A bug?
Because most UA-camrs only care about big funny numbers instead of the dr more casual players would use (I never went over level 3k nor do I care about going that high)
1:12 I feel attacked lol 😖😂
men of culture
You should
Idk why he said that tbh... Inaros got good damage too. Especially grouping up enemies with 2, pressing 4 on them, applying the corrosive and then having even more corrosive with melee exposure
@@zacenal2872 its a joke
Same
I know this isn't meta for a lot of people but I swear by my Rhino thermal sunder build. Max efficiency, good bit of range and as much strength as you can get.
I thought they were nerfing her base ability aswell or am I buggin?
I’d argue growing power is better than corrosive project specifically for a terrify set up. Since terrify scales so well on strength, growing power is nearly a full corrosive while also benefiting other abilities and not losing value later on from molt augmented giving you a full strip anyways. That’s only if the aura change doesn’t affect your other set ups though
terrify with cp needs 138 strength
terrify without needs 168
thats 1 intesify
@@noahedenborg4221 did you read all the words in the comment? Do you know what growing power does?
@@Zevyne yes it gives 25% strength aka 5 strength off from full strip
did u fucking read it is my question
@@noahedenborg4221 What’s the point of molt augmented ( in every mirage build btw) in the build then? That’s like 20 something kills, a strength shard or Madurai. Way too many easy sources for strength for that to be an argument. No matter what CP becomes useless in any long mission because of molt augmented. If the mission isn’t long enough to get stacks then why do you even care about the full armor strip?
@@Zevyne yes long but u can change it if ur going further
Excalibur umbra new augment
Arachne is better than 400% helminth eclipse lol
Damage
Mirage can get it 🙏😭
Amen
Real
ong 😍
Mirage can get my wrathful advance
Ongggg
Equip with sure foot for too long I already forgot what's warframe feel like without it.
without it = floor PoV
I use Handspring if I can't be bothered to forma.
Same
Cc
That or warframe that just innately don't care about cc
So yay i don't need to forma for prime sure-footed
"The floor looks real floory today"
-getting pummeled by 15 grineer
We all know it's only a matter of time before Aznvasions finds a way to make the damage reduction Helminth Eclipse somehow nuke 5 tiles at once.
👀
lol
I'm glad my main is finally more consistent, that old Eclipse was teaching you some weird habits of pixel hunting to get dmg bonus.
Hmm yes dmg
idk why but for some reason i feel like caustcyst influence could be a (but copium) option for armor strip
btw its 138 not 128
This a very creative build, I’m wondering if one uses all of the archon mods with her 2nd will it proc many of those benefits, I know her 4th does radiation damage as well. I added nourish because I wanted to be able to add an extra layer of damage.
Question for companions, specifically sentinels. I was always under the impression that you needed assault mode/calculated shot to enable the sentinel to attack. But his build doesn't have that equipped? Am I wasting a mod slot?
its only if u want the sentinel to shoot
tap vs hold was my suggestion immediately when they started taking them. Mirage OG. Mirage OP.
this build is very expensive and very mid. recommended 5 Tauforged shards, Primed Sure Footed (time gated mod) and one of the best Kuva weapons. all that second build is, is running around with a damage buff and using an AOE weapon. other frames can do the same thing but better and for cheaper. the first one is straight buns. "never use the damage negation buff" actually insane. survivability only comes from Rolling Guard and terrify as a crowd control lmao. you cant even full strip till you build Molt and have a specific Focus School. if you didnt choose that school you need to farm Molt even more. how are you gunna make a snowball build with low survivability. also recommending the Grimoire while having Primed Flow, Arcane Energize, Archon Stretch, and Equilibrium for more energy sustainability without a grouping ability AND terrify? both builds are a complete waste of resources, and it misguides new players or people that dont have a lot of knowledge of the game.
Nah I want my 99,98% damage reduction on Baruuk
Hate videos like this. You assume everyone gets the fast paced lingo. Get to the point, and maybe explain to the newbies what eclipse is, etc. Be more thorough. And dumb it down.
So for the wisp contagion it's better to use roar now instead of eclipse?
no cus u can still use faction mods and since thats raw dmg and not dot eclipse is more dmg
No eclipse still does more damagr (although its sooooo much better on mirage than wisp cuz you get og eclipse damage)
In my opinion, the helminth version of eclipse should be around 50% from mirage's base stats. So ~100% damage increase *base* instead of the current 30% or the old 150%. That would still be less then before but strong enough to make eclipse viable.
Or let it have the same effect as roar lmao.
Im actually using your former prism nuke build but replaced transient fortitude with blind rage and the 2nd ability with nourish. It works really well.
What’s your mirage fashion?
4:00 Also Roar gets bonus points because it can buff teammates without an augment.
Kinda feel attacked with my inaros and eclipse for dmg reduction hahaha
is this build still viable?
Hahaha, you going off about the damage reduction not being used expect that one person when I recently watched a MHBlacky video about possibly using that for Inaros build. I love this
Because MHBlacky was clickbaiting and that video was full of inconsistencies.
damn 30s after an upload and only 6 views? knightmare fell off
This a trend now or what ?
My lord, I am new player and have been saying "I wish i could switch the DMG buff to be tap instead of hold" and when i saw 1:50 let me tell you i was going to cry. Thank you
Can you make mirage with Roar helminth and combine it with Eclipse so I can see funny number
With the new mirage change
u cant
like literally cant
roar eclipse amp xata and vex armor cant be on the same frame
will the kuva bramma work on the weapons build?
Ngl I feel like it would, especially with some multishot
Knightmare dropping vids like the rent due 😂. Good vid
DE destroying its own game, we made many others frames based on eclipse but all is destroyed. Because they analyze data of all players which is a wrong way. And people who think its not a balance game lets debuff stuff, why than Players should struggle to farm stuff if they keep doing this debuff eventually we will switch to other games, maybe Soul Frame and its what they really want from us ;)
This doesnt have to do anything with the video but GOD BLESS THE SOUL OF THE MF WHO MADE THE NEW ENEMY DROP 3 ENTRATI LANTHORNS it has made my life worth living again
Knightmare saying the 90% dr from eclipse is useless on other frames... My m8 kullervo and any frame without shieldgating would like to have a word. Yes im aware eclipse alone wont keep me alive but i still prefer running eclipse than Kullervo's in endurance runs since with adaptation you get the same survivability as a maxed out Nidus (without the passive but thats what i use overguard gating for)
Ok so I assume the favonius codex isnt like a thing anymore? Cause the internet is a wasteland of garbage on any info on it. First Knightmare frame video has left me red hot mad with trying to figure out info that would have taken 2 seconds to explain. thanks.
Can someone tell me which build is better? Gun build or prism. Prism looks very good with armour strip and high kpm but seems more complicated. I don’t have arcane energise so was gonna go with the gun build. Can anyone offer me some advice? I’m mr 12
I run pillage instead of prism and have 656% damage buff and destroy everything this in my opinion is not as good as the build I made from watching this at least could be wrong got my build from overframe and tweaked it.
Ngl i used that damage reduction on volt weapon platform build. My glass canon pookie.
At one point I could not follow the movement because I had the video on 2x speed. Really caused to strain my eyes, wow. Anyways, sounds like a good build, but would have to transfer shards across the board. Also, can not gain arcane energizer, there is that problem.
I would use the DR variant of helminth eclipse...
If it reached 90%...(disapointed tank noises)
Bro are you putting destiny 2 weapon names over some of your weapons? 😂 I saw mida mini tool last time and full on thought you could get it and saw the other half in this one now I’m wondering if those are actual weapons 😂
It between 90-80% nerfed to the helmith .. while roar was nerfed 40%. If eclipse was nerfed exactly like roar then it would be 90% .
LoL maybe now u showed tonkor i can possible get buyer for my tonkor riven cc cd multi neg sd 😂😂😂
lmfaooo, I am that 1 inaros player with eclipse dr hahaha, but I did it cuz meme, dont rly use inaros anyway
I put 5 tau forged hp azure archon shards on my mirage and she can get up to 3243hp thanks to arcane blessing true tank factor
Yeah the fact they gutted eclipse helminth is by far the dumbest thing de have ever done and they've done exactly the same with other ability strength ability strength helminths
Sane person and Mirage don´t fit... i mean who likes to get seizures?
I do.
Sure footed aint a necessity, its a dependancy. Juat be better at seeing knockdown effects and jumping out of the way.
F prism build
The damage reduction ain't bad when running through areas nor like im stopping to shoot anyhow but then it's flipping 😂
bro I didn't know you needed to hold eclipse now iv'e been playing with damage reduction since they made the update 😂
I just came back to this game had no idea they changed eclipse no wonder it felt like I wasn’t doing as much damage as I thought
Just a question. What do we replace eclipse with for eidolons?
smite infusion and roar
nothing we keept it
My main has now achieved her perfect form
(*CELL THEME STARTS BLASTING*)
How is manifold bond working on this wyrm? Idk if it got changed but I thought it doesnt work on negate and I don’t see anything else
Who even use DMG reduction 😅 I on steel Path when I don't need more DMG XD
Great! Got her in Deep Archimedea
1:32 better check if its safe, might be booby trapped. Few times.
Everytime
And if i put both eclipse and roar on mirage ?
Holy shit man the inverted tip is sick i didnt even know about it, thanks!
why not use the damage reduction?? if you play a dmg frame or use weapons that don't need a damage buff then this is a good way to stay alive. especially with mirage.
well cus u can move and have ur 1 on and ur 2 can sometimes be well a flashbang
I tried the inverse button setting and it didn’t work
been using mirage this past week to hunt liches and eidolon, the buff is so frickin good.
@6:10 You can’t make be use casting speed. Her 1st ability animation needs to be even slower. 👌🏻
I am just coming back to warframe.
But how do you get the Terrify ability?
get normal nekros and feed him to your helminth
How long does your prism guard last
Your dont need Equilibrium or Rolling Guard lol
But but knightmare .. damage reduction 😂
Any other suggestion gor her 2? Nourish or roar?
hey im not crazy i use damage reduction eclipse
Diriga Prime with Xaku Prime manifesting it😭😭
I’m a mirage main. I subsume pillage over her 2 and run 360ish strength and corrosive projection
is 360 str what she needs to fully strip 1 cast with pillage?
I put eclipse on like one warframe for DR just to see, and haven't used it again 😂
I thought the devs said that the changes to eclipse was going to basically turn it into a serration, which would be additive to your base damage. Am I missing something? Why is it so strong on her? A bug?
they reverted that change before it came out because if it was base dmg it would be USELSS
@@noahedenborg4221 oh okay. Thanks
Im gonna use the damage reduction, pleas ignore me
Brozime uses the DR eclipse in his new video 😂
I mean.. probably that one rhino that has 500k overguard w/ adaptation would add eclipse.
Because why not?😂
Because he’d have to give up Roar to have it
Wait, damage reduction works on overguard?
@@Rizalinlpl97 no
Not the ArcheAge music, my ptsd ohh no
Melee?
Brozime and khightmareframe never disappoints.
Bro , instead of primed sure footage (that I don't have lol) I could use handspring ? or it is not good enough ?
yes
Thats cool but is too much to make her good
but the archage music had me distracted as hell
Mirage mains eating well this update 🎉
i feel called out with the inaros comment
Chroma New Augment video please.
New Incarnon weapons review?
WE'RE the ones eating good with all these build drops😭🙏
What would mirage be ranked now with the changes?
1 2 3 3 did i count right??
Can you show us more like lvl 9999 level cap builds
Mirage can face tank Sp now and
I dont see why i would use rev anymore
Because most UA-camrs only care about big funny numbers instead of the dr more casual players would use (I never went over level 3k nor do I care about going that high)
Can someone help me find out where the Favonius drops or how to get it?
did you ever find out?
Rip exodia wisp😔🙏
Use roar😐
Still does over a 100 mil damage and eclipse is better with contagion
I am that one inaros player who uses eclipse for Dr.
please yareli wid next
Eclipse for me only gives 107% damage for my volt 😭
ya cause eclipse on helminth is weak, it is better to use roar instead for helminth
Hey man! That Chroma build you showed the other day!
You think it was severely affected by the nerf on Eclipse?
Don’t even use the build anymore
I miss life of rio…
I didn't know totoal eclipse works on her clones
did i miss the shards used?
yes, yes i did