Volt has an absurdly overloaded kit that you can either invest a lot into or very little and still find a ton of value. SO, Eidolons, Angels, Arbis, Star Chart, Open World, Group and Solo. Also, Mag and Excal have negative ass. What a crime.
mag isn't a bad starter frame because she's "complicated", she's a bad starter frame because the mods she requires to make use of her properly are locked behind lategame.
Ugh no fracturing crushing could be bought for 10p and that’s all you need to make her strong she doesn’t need a lot of strength very energy efficient and she’s great with shield gating so idk why you think that ?!?!
@@mikefavela8112 you're right my bad, it's not like she needs expensive r10 mods like narrow minded, primed flow, primed continuity, rolling guard, etc.
@ the fact you have to spend plat to get it proves what they were saying. The only way to get that mod is getting rank 5 in new Loka or the perlin sequence or the circuit, none of which are new player friendly. So it is locked to new players and that’s why you need to spend plat to get it
My biggest issue with Mag... ...is that I totally missed the Heirloom skin, having been away from the game for years. I still haven't found the fashionframe to make her perfect....
@@methheadfreestyle482 They're not. DE can't bring those back, though i'm not fully sure why. Prolly contract or something since people spent a lot of money on those.
@@methheadfreestyle482 both frost and mag heirloom are not returning ua-cam.com/video/ovxaYxLbUNE/v-deo.html first question answered on the devstream 180 Q&A 1:30:19
@@agingerbeard I once created a Forum Post to adjust Mag a bit to make her annoying aspects less annoying and actually worth having. What I found is that the most logical option would be to give Magnetic Procs to Pull and let Polarize refresh the Duration of Magnetic Procs.
@@eliaspanayi3465 yesnt, her Shards are considered weapons, so she could even apply Viral with Nourish. Her shards have a 50/50 share of Puncture and Slash. The problem with it is, that without Magnetize the odds of her even applying those is so low, you might as well try Punch your enemies to death. So tldr, yes but it's so oddly specific and weak that I dont even consider it as part of her kit
I think Mag's best Helminth is Breach Surge. Not only does it blind, giving her some crowd control, but the Surge Sparks count as weapon hits in the bubble. The damage over time of Magnetize is every half second and each instance of damage has a chance to create a Surge Spark. It causes a feedback loop inside the bubble that leads to the DoT becoming hundreds of thousands if not millions of damage every half second. The DoT feeds into the explosion damage too. I've hit damage cap with the bubble numerous times. I can link my Breach Surge build if you'd like. I have a similar Nourish build but I Helminthed over Crush. Because Polarize does nothing to armor stripped enemies I figured that I didn't want to completely strip armor. Nourish also makes the Polarize shards do Viral damage and proc Viral. The Breach Surge build is for solo, Nourish is for team play.
@@User-pz8dv i dont think i can send link here, i tried but my msg was either deleted/blocked or waiting to be accepted by warframeflo so i uploaded 2 really quick videos with my setup, first test is simple ball - breach surge - crush and explosion after, second test is same thing but at the end i stripped enemies outside of bubble, just 1 viral proc makes it dmg cap with 2.1b, or about 700mln dmg on non viral proced enemy for 3 remaining archon shards just go with anything you want, i really like bubble explosion so im almost neutral duration, more duration is imo for stationary gameplay like survivals or semi stationary like disruption, in that case go with 3x duration shards, you can use also grimoire with either duration or energy regen, your choice, im also using archon stretch because diriga can proc that, if youre running grimoire with energy regen, simply use panzer vulpaphyla becauase as you can se on video just 1 proc makes about 1.5b difference on stripped enemy. also yes, i changed polarize to breach surge since dmg multiplier there works for debris mechanic, not for all affected enemies, armor strip comes from crush, and i dont really need shield recharge because crush keeps me at 1700 overshield anyway, on the other hand pull help with mobs, 1. you can create bubble somewhere near roof/ in the sky whatever you like to call it by simply pulling mobs into air and creating ball on that before they land on the ground, 2. crush immobilize mobs so pull helps with kill per min and yes, this is pure ability spammer mag, for disruption just use anything that works, glaive, quassus, hunter munition setup, im using heavy attack ceramic dagger and still works XD for acolytes pretty much same, you can use tenet arca plasmor or nataruk with radiation, it will be anyway 1 tap due to viral from panzer/diriga/grimoire, dmg multiplier from breach surge and bubble, armour strip and infinite pierce with nataruk/tenet arca plasmor (keep in mind nataruk needs at least 2 mobs in bubble to hit same target multiple times, tenet arca plasmor will hit multiple times no matter what)
First, "giving her some crowd control" lol. All her skills gives crowd control. Like how stupid is that. Second she doesn't need to blind enemies when she can bubble and not get hit, she can crush and not get hit, she can pull and not get hit. Third, just shoot and you won't need an ability to be used as a weapon. Just use one of the 3 weapons you can equip on your warframe lol. And the dumbest of all is using nourish replacing crush. "Polarize doesn' nothing to stripped enemies". Polarize increases damage dealt to an enemy affected by polarize. So if you crush polarize crush they are dead. If you bubble polarize, crush, they are dead. Literally the sinergy is great between polarize and crush. ANd some people even wants your builds lol.
@@ReallyBadJosy sadly, polarize gives dmg multiplier to debris mechanic, its not global dmg multiplier to all affected by polarize. yeah sure im with you, nourish instead of crush seems really wierd, but back to her 3rd ability, polarize is actually useless compared to breach surge, becuse you dont really need shields (overshield from crush) you dont need strip (again crush) and dmg multiplier works only for debris, on the other hand, breach surge actually gives global (global ish, you know what i mean) dmg multiplier, and sparks from breach surge deals waaaay more dmg than debris from polarize, on top of that breach surge scales bubble a lot faster than debris or weapons youll use. ofc you can use weapons its more like playstyle thing at this point, your choice, but we talking about pure ability mag here and you can easly reach dmg cap with just 3 abilities
Just FYI you only need 115% power strength to full strip with her 4 if you are also running corrosive projection. Just use a Red Tau shard to cover that and that gives you another mod slot. Great video.
One of my favorite tricks in a defense/excavation mission is to pull enemies right to the objective and cast a big long lasting bubble on them, and viol la dead enemies and a bullet proof bubble around the defense point.
for every mag enjoyer here or just wanna try it you should using breach surge helminth for her pull get nataruk with gas or blast damage use fractring crush and magnetize discharge 1 do your bubble 2 breach surge 3 shoot nataruk 4 crush 5 discombobulate your pc you're welcome
I'm sure your doing alot of cool stuff in streams but as a youtube guy I would love to see more reflective content like this! Glad the restart is going so well!
Im just about to get my mag for my steel path but I will do a beginner Steel path build but with these video come very handy will that’s why I like you’re videos you break down how to use every frame in a very good way
Dang you make me want to try using her. when I was new I ignored her because she looks so basic unlike volt that has lightning and everything I completely regret ignoring her now
Mage is goated but the two things i dont/didnt like about mag as someone who started with her are a) fighting toxic eximus units (i hate them with a passion) and b) that it is really hard to understand her abilities as a beginner. My monkey brain used her for the first like 80-100 hrs of gameplay with just 1 and sometimes 3 after i realised this gave me shields. I didnt understand her 2 because I picked the bow and that doesnt really synergize with that ability. Thank you for the nice video!
Bows very much work with her bubble. The nataruk hits incredibly hard with her bubble. Not sure where you got the bows don't work woth her bubble, but It very much does . Most guns that shoot projectiles will bounce around in the bubble. The kompressa is one of the top of my head that I know doesn't work even though they are projectiles, the bubbles just get pushed away and don't even enter the bubble
I exclusively play mag with a bow, great feeling to magnetize then one shot an eximus unit. I use the daikyu, modded for 100 percent crit chance and increased crit damage, it has built in 3 meter punch through, so with a big enough bubble one arrow can room clear.
Took the nourish build out for a spin and had a blast. I do miss pull for yanking mobs into the bubble but this definitely has a place in one of my build slots.
You've reinvigorated my love for my starter frame mag, I haven't finished formaing her, but I was just reminded of precision intensity and was like wtf am I using umbral intensify? Maybe I'll swap it back after I finish build her, both hit the 100% fracturing crush armour reduction. Second but more interesting, I one shot (well it was blender, but one bullet fired) a base acolyte with the mighty seer and the bubble. I fired one shot, was like, wait I forgot to armour... and he's dead, neat. In mid cast he died to the mighty seer. The pope would be proud. I have been sleeping on the bubble. My og starter mag has norish over her bubble, cos melee, early game it is hard to find one good guns, two reasons to use a bubble, but now I am really enjoying it in steel path ^^
Just wanted to say thanks a lot for the build video, especially providing so many builds from free/cheap all the way up. I decided to give Mag a go today thanks to your video and i really enjoyed it. Thank you
To be fair, Excalibur is able to made it from the begining to the steel path, nothing like a "nuke" sure (except for the weapons itself), but all wf works for that, only if we want to do "big explosion/nuke" stuff is when people actually select stuff
Couldn't agree with you more - Mag is a powerhouse and key to her is being active. I slept on Mag for years, and finally started using her and wow. She is my go to for just damage, damage and damage. I use her a lot for disruption cos bubble and I'm lazy. If you hate aiming - Mag, need armor strip and don't want to use a helminth and still destroy everything - Mag. She is just fun to play - energy is the only real issue and lets face it that's not really an issue for later game players. Great suggesting options for newer players to help unleash the Mag-power :) Also - fashion
the best part about mag imo is the fact she allows for non meta weapons to be very good through magnetize. I use a lanka primed chamber build with a -mag capacity riven which fucking slaps due to the infinite body punchthrough. using that weapon on any other frame tho it's completely useless
A change to the early game build, Energy Nexus is only available from Sanctum Anatomica missions (unless you trade for it), which is extremely late game in story progression (requires New War and Duviri Paradox completion iirc). Wouldn't realistically be in an early game build in most cases due to abovementioned availability.
I agree but its not hard to make 5 platinum in the early game you can run a couple of relics or run a corrupted mod farm and you can get that with ease even with the low trades you have. Energy nexus is such an important mod for beginners even if you have to trade for it. ON my new account it has literally sorted out all my energy issues a new player would have to face
Couple years ago, I got a switch so I started a new account. I chose Mag thinking that I was choosing to play on hard mode. I quickly came to realize that she's actually objectively the best starter frame. Easy armor strip, easy shield regen, and bubble just deletes strong foes that would give an early player struggle
I'm a newbie and I picked up mag cos I liked the idea of magnetic gravity magics, and boy was I in for a treat when I discovered the really early-on Paris + bubble combo shredded a lot of the star chart! Thanks for the advice on ability use, I think I really slept on Polarise .
I started with Mag and play with another friend who has loads of frames and weapons, and I'm constantly keeping par, sometimes exceeding him, on every mission. The ability to group enemies and melee the crap out of them is elite, but this video shows me how much I was missing out on!
when i started warframe, i knew i was a volt player but i said lets switch it up and i went with mag. had alot of fun with her 1. cut to when i got a pc. i went with volt. yes i am a volt main but mag is still fun to use, been going ham with her 2 and nataruk making a buncha glowing orbs
Mag was my starter warframe when this game first launched in PC; then i got mag prime in 2015 but for some reason, my profile says that her nonprime version is still my overall top used warframe even though i havent been using her.
I built my Mag Prime based on Tactical Potato idea using Elemental Ward (Electric) from Chroma ability with Archon Stretch + Tauforged Topaz shard to gain Shield + Energy regen! (You can have your sentinel deal Blast status and still works)
Mag was my starter back in 2014, I fell outta love with her for a period of time, and then we came back together in 2022 and she’s been my main chick ever since.
I use a very different build that requires one ability and one weapon Pull and torid incarnon step 1: pull step 2: beam everything just dies and its so satisfying
@@meysirum technically yes but i barely use helminth except for roar. I also use blood alter build cuz its funny letting an enemy hang mid air and succ all enemies in from all directions.
I feel like this was a sign for me who recently got Mag at MR 11, mostly because I want to have a magnetic progenitor for my next Kuva Nukor for fusion. Especially with the magnetic buffs coming up. I was honestly going to use her for that exclusively, but i might have to see if she can be more than I thought. The armor strip and shield gain look really nice.
@@WarframeFlo Thanks for explaining things nicely, I was not figuring out her abilities and how to maximize them. I will definitely be working on her, I love a good caster frame.
I love Mag got into the game again after my steam account got hacked and lost my Voruna and now i am Mag Prime main on PS5 and she feels so nice to play.
It's so cool that they added the hold version to her 2 to reflect how it was in the cinematic. God DE are goated for that even if it's not actually a good ability.
The only thing is mag is a caster and she is amazing but you need descent mods to make her great and energy solutions which are more abundant in the later game. Excal and Volt are better choices because they just have better survivability with better base health armor stats. You can get mag easily in the starchart as well so the new player can revist the frame early on. I often tell new players mag is one of the best but she needs good mods you don't have yet it is your choice to choose your frame but always keep in mind mag is a warframe i advise you return to
I constantly use mags magnetise ability to literally trivialise junction bosses, just pop a magnetise bubble on them and they can't even hit you, then just dump an entire rifle mag into the bubble above them for an ez kill
HI man i run Mag with breach surge instead of her 1 and with 90% duration + molt efficiency giving decent duration.. than 160 efficecny to spam cast abilites but can be changed for streamline in order to get more duration.. than 235 range with overexted and stretch but it can be changed for Augur reach to get her more strenght and make the armor strip instant beacuse with my build she has 84 strenght paired with Molt augmented reaching exact strenght to fully armor strip :D the brach surge bubble combo makes on the detonation insane nuke in the millions.. if u r interested in trying it out: primed cont, fleeting ex, overextend, stretch, rolling guard (flex), umbral inten, stretch and two augments :D love ur vids and would love to do some lvl cap runs with u sometimes
I member when mag and tonkor was the shit! When we did the void keys thingy. Just got back to the game after a break since the necramek thingy. I have 1500 hours plus and i dont know shit. So thanks for a great video
you can swap equilibrium for energy nexus bc it uses less energy and also is multiplied by nourish and you can also remove energize for a different arcane and to use less energy you can invest in more range or efficiency (to strip armor for a larger area)
Forgot Steflos. It makes a nice blender also. One thing I wanted to say, and this is from somebody who considers themselves a huge Mag enjoyer/main, Mag is not typically a frame for newer players. Star chart is fairly easy in a lot of ways with decent weapons, but she can be a very squishy frame at times. You really have to play to her strengths in regards to CC. Something most new players I’d assume would have trouble with.
Additionally, Beam weapons, depending on which one, can actually work very well with the Bubble. In my testing, Projectile based weapons tend to get trapped and orbit causing additional damage and can be nasty; my favorite being Nataruk. But beam weapons depending on your choice can also absolutely melt and disintegrate trapped enemies quite quickly. I recommend for instance the Gaze secondary or primary for that matter. Both make Bubbled enemies die very quickly lol.
Phantasma was better, but nowadays not so much. Idek about the Quanta or some nonsense like that. But Tenet Glaxion, or Amprex etc. if you have a good build, especially the Gaze secondary with a riven lol, they just melt.
My main build is running breach surge over her 1 with large range and duration its quite nice since the surges instantly get pulled in to the bubble multiplying damage ludicrously and her 3s shards also proc the surge which means its a build that doesnt require weapons, credit doesnt go to me but to my buddy
I'd always recommend picking mag for avid experienced RPG/ARPG video game players when starting out Warframe, she force you to learn stuff way sooner than the two others.
I am such a Mag main that i had three Primes of her on my main PC account, and after murging my Xbox with my PC (thanks to the cross safe release) i now have 4 Mag Primes. One mage is something of my main, especially for the story missions (I quite earlly on fount my core aesthetic and color scheme), which leans mosr on Magitize buils (and has a fun Greedy pull build). The next two from my PC only days have more niche build focuses (foci?). One leans more on Counter Pulse, the other not only leans on Fractureing Crush, but im trying to set this Crush one to be my Mag option vs infected (who has toxin and don't have armer nor ahields). Im struggling with my Xbox newbie Mag Prime in what I want to do with her. I might use that one for the Nourish, Breach Surge, and/or Blood Alter related builds. Any idea would be helpfull, espeshilly if i put one of those Helmenth abilities onto my Main main one. I dont clame to be an expert in anything much, but i am always willing to give pointers to new players to the whole game about mag (and in general), but also help other veterans that are just starting or struggling with Mag. Regardless, I like looking at videos like this so i can see other main of Mag's views on our girl, and to see if their is a nugget of new information about her i did not know. On that note: while this video did not expectly mention this, but I heared from another video that Magnetize stop pulling in none targeted/new enemies into the bubble once the main target/"host" enemy dies. However in my personal observations during my own gameplay (and not in the simulator), the bubble pulls enemies in regardless of the state of the original target, so i am not sure where the "stop pulling enemies in" bit comes frome. Any information on this bit would also help. Thanks for reading this far of my TED Talk of a post, and happy farming. 😊
I had issues with Mag survivability when I started playing her more so I added Resonator to her 1. It kind of stuck afterwards. Now I use big range bubbles and resonator CC grouping up and CCing mobs and often marching them to bubbles or setting up bubbles for me.
for gaining shield back polarize vs crush without castinig speed: crush is instant. polarize u have to wait till the end of the animation for the shield to come back. (forget the name of youtuber but the video is titiled somehitng like how not to die as mag or survive with mag) once pointed out changed how i played with her did u mention the " X {?} damage" on both magnatize and polarize that scales with strength? (think x2|x3 respectively) . tho not entirley sure what the number actually implies
I was today in elite sanctuary with Poor Nidus..and there was a Mag Guy ..somehow we come to third stage..but i died again and he could not resurrect me..but keep playing,i said to him YOU ARE WIELDING GOD AMONG FRAMES OFC U WILL MAKE IT...and he did..Im Mag main so we had a little chat after..ofc we speak about Builds..guy same as me do not Run Rolling Guard and Prime footed....he was fighting 4 necromecs at one point..Simply there is no Warframe that can be comparable with Mag Power...yes you can chease with invisible Frames in Lvl cap..but you can not Chease Infested lvl cap survival,i think that Mag is only Frame that can do lvl Cap infested Survival solo ...cuz he is a Fastest killer..and there is no other Frame that can Kill fast hoards of lvl 9999 enemys..(I heard that Gauss can nuke lvl cap,but never saw it)..
Thanks for this! I want to like mag. I like her kit, and she can be fun to play, but even with rolling guard and overshields, she's too squishy for me on sp. I know it's a skill issue (beat you to it). It's just that I'm not sure how to change up my playstyle to make her viable for me.
Hmmm focus on casting speed thats what i can say. Put on 2-3 amber shards for casting speed and i promise you mag will feel amazing. IF you feel like you going to die before you can cast your 4 cast her 3 as it will immediately give you shields too and has a faster animation
funny parti is, all tree starters frames are excellent later on in the game, Excalibur is what i would call the easiest path toward steel path while mag and volt are indeniably late game monster capable of reaching levels caps
Mag is my favorite frame by far. I recently got her prime and now I’m working on slapping 5 tau yellows (all casting) while wearing minion drip. So far I have 2 and It’s beautifully stupid.
There are SO many more builds and playstyles for Mag. Her versatility is magnificent. She can solo every square inch of the game (and has; it's been documented on the forum).
Ironic, we were so close to guessing that title down to a T... Edit : 2700 armor cap, that means in 3 casts of polarize, you'll just strip an entire tileset, no LoS restrictions.
This is probably obvious but you should death bubble enemies in doorways you can basically lock down an entire room with kill balls that collect energy and loot.
My go to frame for void cascade. I run secondary focused builds abusing Secondary Outburst. Her 1 pulls tons of enemies setting them up for ground finishers, enabling easy stacks of melee crescendo. Not sure if this will work after the jade shadows update, as they are changing the way ground finishers work.
As someone who just started playing days ago, this was very helpful. I'm still trying to understand 1/4 of the game and movement. One of my many questions is, where do I buy Energy Nexus?
Mag is one of those frames that can kill all with only her abilities WELL into deep SP like lvl 1000+. Meaning the average player with a good setup won’t ever really need a strong weapon. My fav frame :)
I like Mag on paper but actually playing her always felt a bit too clunky for me, there just so many more comfortable strong warframes to play. I feel like you need to put too much effort into Mag to play her effectively. Blood altar looks fun though i already see how you can make your team blind with it.
When I first started playing Warframe how about 5 or 6 years ago I chose Mag as my starting Warframe just based off the ability is it shown on screen I thought Excalibur was a little underwhelming I thought volt was a little overwhelming and Mag just seemed like a great overall Choice even though I hated the way she looked definitely a great frame
I myself have not really explored all the Focus Shools, but it seems to me to largely depend on your overall build's needs and your energy economy. If you feel that equilibrium (or energy nexus) is not doing enough, and you don't have or don't want to use Nourish Halminth or Death Cube (Prime) and it's energy giving precept mod, then Zenuric (spelling?) is a good default.
I prefer getting rid of her 3 and replacing it with Breach Surge. The amount of CC and free damage from Breach Surge is amazing. For weapons I almost always use Nataruk or Tenet ArcaPlasmor.
mag's my favorite frame and i find there's 0 reason to run rolling guard on her. just press 3 or 4 and you get your shield gate back up no problem. even the odd toxin eximus enemy isn't enough to justify it. just avoid it or pop into ur operator for a while if it manages to get to you(which it shouldn't) also you didnt mention that weapon with 100% punchtrought are really great for her 2
Mag/Excal/Volt Which one?
Volt has an absurdly overloaded kit that you can either invest a lot into or very little and still find a ton of value. SO, Eidolons, Angels, Arbis, Star Chart, Open World, Group and Solo.
Also, Mag and Excal have negative ass. What a crime.
Volt tbh
volt mainly cus mag and excal are close by at the start
Excal.
Mag!? What a question
First rule about mag club!,we don't talk about mag club!.
second rule of mag club is we spread the mag club
I had a glitch where I had no audio soo very true😂
as a mag main for almost 7 years now it makes me happy when i see teammates using mag, even tho they can't outpower my girl
based and true
3rd rule of Mag club, uhh
mag isn't a bad starter frame because she's "complicated", she's a bad starter frame because the mods she requires to make use of her properly are locked behind lategame.
For the old warframes as mag wich You could consider a good frame for starters that are easy to build?
Ugh no fracturing crushing could be bought for 10p and that’s all you need to make her strong she doesn’t need a lot of strength very energy efficient and she’s great with shield gating so idk why you think that ?!?!
@@mikefavela8112 you're right my bad, it's not like she needs expensive r10 mods like narrow minded, primed flow, primed continuity, rolling guard, etc.
@ the fact you have to spend plat to get it proves what they were saying. The only way to get that mod is getting rank 5 in new Loka or the perlin sequence or the circuit, none of which are new player friendly. So it is locked to new players and that’s why you need to spend plat to get it
@@eddieshannon6880you know your given plat as a beginner so no you don’t have to spend money…..
My biggest issue with Mag...
...is that I totally missed the Heirloom skin, having been away from the game for years. I still haven't found the fashionframe to make her perfect....
She still has other beautiful skins
Heirloom is coming back I'm pretty sure
@@methheadfreestyle482 They're not. DE can't bring those back, though i'm not fully sure why. Prolly contract or something since people spent a lot of money on those.
@@methheadfreestyle482 It was a one time thing, Ember Heirloom is coming out though. Praying mag and frost heirlooms do return though.
@@methheadfreestyle482 both frost and mag heirloom are not returning ua-cam.com/video/ovxaYxLbUNE/v-deo.html first question answered on the devstream 180 Q&A 1:30:19
Her Magnetize does Blast Damage, but doesnt apply said Status. Neither does Polarize.
She doesnt apply any Statuses
You would think Magnetize and Crush would have guaranteed magnetic procs, maybe too OP?
@@agingerbeard I once created a Forum Post to adjust Mag a bit to make her annoying aspects less annoying and actually worth having.
What I found is that the most logical option would be to give Magnetic Procs to Pull and let Polarize refresh the Duration of Magnetic Procs.
@@xaikii1603 that sounds really cool I hope Pablo read that post!
Doesnt she apply slash procs with her shards? Or is that slash damage
@@eliaspanayi3465 yesnt, her Shards are considered weapons, so she could even apply Viral with Nourish.
Her shards have a 50/50 share of Puncture and Slash. The problem with it is, that without Magnetize the odds of her even applying those is so low, you might as well try Punch your enemies to death.
So tldr, yes but it's so oddly specific and weak that I dont even consider it as part of her kit
I think Mag's best Helminth is Breach Surge. Not only does it blind, giving her some crowd control, but the Surge Sparks count as weapon hits in the bubble. The damage over time of Magnetize is every half second and each instance of damage has a chance to create a Surge Spark. It causes a feedback loop inside the bubble that leads to the DoT becoming hundreds of thousands if not millions of damage every half second. The DoT feeds into the explosion damage too. I've hit damage cap with the bubble numerous times. I can link my Breach Surge build if you'd like.
I have a similar Nourish build but I Helminthed over Crush. Because Polarize does nothing to armor stripped enemies I figured that I didn't want to completely strip armor. Nourish also makes the Polarize shards do Viral damage and proc Viral. The Breach Surge build is for solo, Nourish is for team play.
@jasonglebe3235 Can I get the link to your build?
i heard that build got nerfed is not as good anymore. "i heard" tho so
@@User-pz8dv i dont think i can send link here, i tried but my msg was either deleted/blocked or waiting to be accepted by warframeflo so i uploaded 2 really quick videos with my setup, first test is simple ball - breach surge - crush and explosion after, second test is same thing but at the end i stripped enemies outside of bubble, just 1 viral proc makes it dmg cap with 2.1b, or about 700mln dmg on non viral proced enemy
for 3 remaining archon shards just go with anything you want, i really like bubble explosion so im almost neutral duration, more duration is imo for stationary gameplay like survivals or semi stationary like disruption, in that case go with 3x duration shards, you can use also grimoire with either duration or energy regen, your choice, im also using archon stretch because diriga can proc that, if youre running grimoire with energy regen, simply use panzer vulpaphyla becauase as you can se on video just 1 proc makes about 1.5b difference on stripped enemy. also yes, i changed polarize to breach surge since dmg multiplier there works for debris mechanic, not for all affected enemies, armor strip comes from crush, and i dont really need shield recharge because crush keeps me at 1700 overshield anyway, on the other hand pull help with mobs, 1. you can create bubble somewhere near roof/ in the sky whatever you like to call it by simply pulling mobs into air and creating ball on that before they land on the ground, 2. crush immobilize mobs so pull helps with kill per min
and yes, this is pure ability spammer mag, for disruption just use anything that works, glaive, quassus, hunter munition setup, im using heavy attack ceramic dagger and still works XD for acolytes pretty much same, you can use tenet arca plasmor or nataruk with radiation, it will be anyway 1 tap due to viral from panzer/diriga/grimoire, dmg multiplier from breach surge and bubble, armour strip and infinite pierce with nataruk/tenet arca plasmor (keep in mind nataruk needs at least 2 mobs in bubble to hit same target multiple times, tenet arca plasmor will hit multiple times no matter what)
First, "giving her some crowd control" lol. All her skills gives crowd control. Like how stupid is that. Second she doesn't need to blind enemies when she can bubble and not get hit, she can crush and not get hit, she can pull and not get hit. Third, just shoot and you won't need an ability to be used as a weapon. Just use one of the 3 weapons you can equip on your warframe lol. And the dumbest of all is using nourish replacing crush. "Polarize doesn' nothing to stripped enemies". Polarize increases damage dealt to an enemy affected by polarize. So if you crush polarize crush they are dead. If you bubble polarize, crush, they are dead. Literally the sinergy is great between polarize and crush. ANd some people even wants your builds lol.
@@ReallyBadJosy sadly, polarize gives dmg multiplier to debris mechanic, its not global dmg multiplier to all affected by polarize. yeah sure im with you, nourish instead of crush seems really wierd, but back to her 3rd ability, polarize is actually useless compared to breach surge, becuse you dont really need shields (overshield from crush) you dont need strip (again crush) and dmg multiplier works only for debris, on the other hand, breach surge actually gives global (global ish, you know what i mean) dmg multiplier, and sparks from breach surge deals waaaay more dmg than debris from polarize, on top of that breach surge scales bubble a lot faster than debris or weapons youll use. ofc you can use weapons its more like playstyle thing at this point, your choice, but we talking about pure ability mag here and you can easly reach dmg cap with just 3 abilities
Just FYI you only need 115% power strength to full strip with her 4 if you are also running corrosive projection. Just use a Red Tau shard to cover that and that gives you another mod slot. Great video.
what about if you don't have/want to use corrosive projections?
134% if you're not running Corrosive Projection.
One of my favorite tricks in a defense/excavation mission is to pull enemies right to the objective and cast a big long lasting bubble on them, and viol la dead enemies and a bullet proof bubble around the defense point.
for every mag enjoyer here or just wanna try it you should using breach surge helminth for her pull get nataruk with gas or blast damage
use fractring crush and magnetize discharge
1 do your bubble
2 breach surge
3 shoot nataruk
4 crush
5 discombobulate your pc
you're welcome
I'm sure your doing alot of cool stuff in streams but as a youtube guy I would love to see more reflective content like this! Glad the restart is going so well!
I just started this week and Mag rules. Really enjoying pulling the enemies in and slashing them to bits with my first crafted Heat Sword.😂
Im just about to get my mag for my steel path but I will do a beginner Steel path build but with these video come very handy will that’s why I like you’re videos you break down how to use every frame in a very good way
Im glad i can help you!
Dang you make me want to try using her. when I was new I ignored her because she looks so basic unlike volt that has lightning and everything I completely regret ignoring her now
Meanwhile I picked Mag and regretted ignoring volt
Mage is goated but the two things i dont/didnt like about mag as someone who started with her are a) fighting toxic eximus units (i hate them with a passion) and b) that it is really hard to understand her abilities as a beginner. My monkey brain used her for the first like 80-100 hrs of gameplay with just 1 and sometimes 3 after i realised this gave me shields. I didnt understand her 2 because I picked the bow and that doesnt really synergize with that ability. Thank you for the nice video!
Bows very much work with her bubble. The nataruk hits incredibly hard with her bubble. Not sure where you got the bows don't work woth her bubble, but It very much does . Most guns that shoot projectiles will bounce around in the bubble. The kompressa is one of the top of my head that I know doesn't work even though they are projectiles, the bubbles just get pushed away and don't even enter the bubble
If you hate toxic eximus with a passion, may i suggest arcane resistance?
I exclusively play mag with a bow, great feeling to magnetize then one shot an eximus unit.
I use the daikyu, modded for 100 percent crit chance and increased crit damage, it has built in 3 meter punch through, so with a big enough bubble one arrow can room clear.
@@uramis00 it prevents toxin status effect not damage, you still get one shot by toxin damage
Back in the day bows were meta with mags bubble because most good bows had better crit than everything else.
Took the nourish build out for a spin and had a blast. I do miss pull for yanking mobs into the bubble but this definitely has a place in one of my build slots.
You've reinvigorated my love for my starter frame mag, I haven't finished formaing her, but I was just reminded of precision intensity and was like wtf am I using umbral intensify? Maybe I'll swap it back after I finish build her, both hit the 100% fracturing crush armour reduction.
Second but more interesting, I one shot (well it was blender, but one bullet fired) a base acolyte with the mighty seer and the bubble. I fired one shot, was like, wait I forgot to armour... and he's dead, neat. In mid cast he died to the mighty seer. The pope would be proud. I have been sleeping on the bubble.
My og starter mag has norish over her bubble, cos melee, early game it is hard to find one good guns, two reasons to use a bubble, but now I am really enjoying it in steel path ^^
Just wanted to say thanks a lot for the build video, especially providing so many builds from free/cheap all the way up. I decided to give Mag a go today thanks to your video and i really enjoyed it. Thank you
To be fair, Excalibur is able to made it from the begining to the steel path, nothing like a "nuke" sure (except for the weapons itself), but all wf works for that, only if we want to do "big explosion/nuke" stuff is when people actually select stuff
But mag go sleepy sleep
@@WarframeFlo true
Couldn't agree with you more - Mag is a powerhouse and key to her is being active.
I slept on Mag for years, and finally started using her and wow. She is my go to for just damage, damage and damage. I use her a lot for disruption cos bubble and I'm lazy.
If you hate aiming - Mag, need armor strip and don't want to use a helminth and still destroy everything - Mag.
She is just fun to play - energy is the only real issue and lets face it that's not really an issue for later game players. Great suggesting options for newer players to help unleash the Mag-power :)
Also - fashion
Fr! I found the best way to deal with the energy economy is just equilibrium (and energize ofc) but it’s saves me a lot
the best part about mag imo is the fact she allows for non meta weapons to be very good through magnetize. I use a lanka primed chamber build with a -mag capacity riven which fucking slaps due to the infinite body punchthrough. using that weapon on any other frame tho it's completely useless
This helped me a good bit, returning to the game after YEARS, now I’m looking for mag setups lol
A change to the early game build, Energy Nexus is only available from Sanctum Anatomica missions (unless you trade for it), which is extremely late game in story progression (requires New War and Duviri Paradox completion iirc). Wouldn't realistically be in an early game build in most cases due to abovementioned availability.
I agree but its not hard to make 5 platinum in the early game you can run a couple of relics or run a corrupted mod farm and you can get that with ease even with the low trades you have. Energy nexus is such an important mod for beginners even if you have to trade for it. ON my new account it has literally sorted out all my energy issues a new player would have to face
You could grab energy siphon from nightwave instead of rifle amp
Thank you for making this video because it makes me feel justified in telling my new player friends to pick her at the start
yes she is absolutely worth it!
Couple years ago, I got a switch so I started a new account. I chose Mag thinking that I was choosing to play on hard mode. I quickly came to realize that she's actually objectively the best starter frame. Easy armor strip, easy shield regen, and bubble just deletes strong foes that would give an early player struggle
This guide really helps me to understand her better. I find it difficult to learn her. But now I will go back to her soon and learn her.
Recently got mag and so far her powers have been a blast to experiment with. Been playing spy missions with her and it’s just so dang satisfying
I'm a newbie and I picked up mag cos I liked the idea of magnetic gravity magics, and boy was I in for a treat when I discovered the really early-on Paris + bubble combo shredded a lot of the star chart! Thanks for the advice on ability use, I think I really slept on Polarise .
I started with Mag and play with another friend who has loads of frames and weapons, and I'm constantly keeping par, sometimes exceeding him, on every mission. The ability to group enemies and melee the crap out of them is elite, but this video shows me how much I was missing out on!
when i started warframe, i knew i was a volt player but i said lets switch it up and i went with mag. had alot of fun with her 1. cut to when i got a pc. i went with volt. yes i am a volt main but mag is still fun to use, been going ham with her 2 and nataruk making a buncha glowing orbs
Mag was my starter warframe when this game first launched in PC; then i got mag prime in 2015 but for some reason, my profile says that her nonprime version is still my overall top used warframe even though i havent been using her.
I built my Mag Prime based on Tactical Potato idea using Elemental Ward (Electric) from Chroma ability with Archon Stretch + Tauforged Topaz shard to gain Shield + Energy regen! (You can have your sentinel deal Blast status and still works)
I had Loki starter frame from back in beta, the superior choice.
My only starting option was Excalibur. :(
@@jackbuck6773it wasn’t
Mag was my starter back in 2014, I fell outta love with her for a period of time, and then we came back together in 2022 and she’s been my main chick ever since.
Always loved her shes got such an amazing playstyle!
I use a very different build that requires one ability and one weapon
Pull and torid incarnon
step 1: pull
step 2: beam
everything just dies and its so satisfying
lol but to be fair torid kills everything!
with hemlinth ig you could do that with any other frame no?
@@meysirum technically yes but i barely use helminth except for roar. I also use blood alter build cuz its funny letting an enemy hang mid air and succ all enemies in from all directions.
You made a believer out of me. I was watching your level cap run, and I said to myself "Guess I'm a Mag main now."
MORE MAGS YAY
I feel like this was a sign for me who recently got Mag at MR 11, mostly because I want to have a magnetic progenitor for my next Kuva Nukor for fusion. Especially with the magnetic buffs coming up. I was honestly going to use her for that exclusively, but i might have to see if she can be more than I thought. The armor strip and shield gain look really nice.
She is so worth the investment.
@@WarframeFlo Thanks for explaining things nicely, I was not figuring out her abilities and how to maximize them. I will definitely be working on her, I love a good caster frame.
I love Mag got into the game again after my steam account got hacked and lost my Voruna and now i am Mag Prime main on PS5 and she feels so nice to play.
nice videos, i returned to warframe and find them pretty enterntaining and informative
mag prime is the only prime missing on my acc
Im glad you enjoy it :)
yo this video flooded with mag mains. btw there's an infinite energy combo with nataruk, Pool of life, mending shot and equilibrium.
I love it haha
I have been a huge fan of Mag for years. I love using the bubble with Penta Secura(Rivened). Pull + Penta Bubble is insane.
It's so cool that they added the hold version to her 2 to reflect how it was in the cinematic. God DE are goated for that even if it's not actually a good ability.
He’s finally back🎉🎉🎉
I am!!!
The only thing is mag is a caster and she is amazing but you need descent mods to make her great and energy solutions which are more abundant in the later game.
Excal and Volt are better choices because they just have better survivability with better base health armor stats. You can get mag easily in the starchart as well so the new player can revist the frame early on.
I often tell new players mag is one of the best but she needs good mods you don't have yet it is your choice to choose your frame but always keep in mind mag is a warframe i advise you return to
nice and helpful video. what mag skin is that? i like it.
i usually use mag with breach surge to multiply the damage of the second ability and more crowd control, it is super fun if you want to try it
I hate bot Mag in Index, i confuse her shards with index points..
I constantly use mags magnetise ability to literally trivialise junction bosses, just pop a magnetise bubble on them and they can't even hit you, then just dump an entire rifle mag into the bubble above them for an ez kill
I love how when i searched best starting warframe a week ago I didn't find this video but a week later I get it in my suggestion box. fuck sake man.
HI man i run Mag with breach surge instead of her 1 and with 90% duration + molt efficiency giving decent duration.. than 160 efficecny to spam cast abilites but can be changed for streamline in order to get more duration.. than 235 range with overexted and stretch but it can be changed for Augur reach to get her more strenght and make the armor strip instant beacuse with my build she has 84 strenght paired with Molt augmented reaching exact strenght to fully armor strip :D the brach surge bubble combo makes on the detonation insane nuke in the millions..
if u r interested in trying it out: primed cont, fleeting ex, overextend, stretch, rolling guard (flex), umbral inten, stretch and two augments :D love ur vids and would love to do some lvl cap runs with u sometimes
I member when mag and tonkor was the shit! When we did the void keys thingy. Just got back to the game after a break since the necramek thingy. I have 1500 hours plus and i dont know shit. So thanks for a great video
you can swap equilibrium for energy nexus bc it uses less energy and also is multiplied by nourish and you can also remove energize for a different arcane and to use less energy you can invest in more range or efficiency (to strip armor for a larger area)
New player picked mag loving it so dar day 3 and made great progress just cleared the dragon quest when u fly and fight other dragons
Forgot Steflos. It makes a nice blender also.
One thing I wanted to say, and this is from somebody who considers themselves a huge Mag enjoyer/main, Mag is not typically a frame for newer players. Star chart is fairly easy in a lot of ways with decent weapons, but she can be a very squishy frame at times. You really have to play to her strengths in regards to CC. Something most new players I’d assume would have trouble with.
Additionally, Beam weapons, depending on which one, can actually work very well with the Bubble.
In my testing, Projectile based weapons tend to get trapped and orbit causing additional damage and can be nasty; my favorite being Nataruk.
But beam weapons depending on your choice can also absolutely melt and disintegrate trapped enemies quite quickly.
I recommend for instance the Gaze secondary or primary for that matter. Both make Bubbled enemies die very quickly lol.
Phantasma was better, but nowadays not so much. Idek about the Quanta or some nonsense like that. But Tenet Glaxion, or Amprex etc. if you have a good build, especially the Gaze secondary with a riven lol, they just melt.
Omg love this vid about mag also could you make an updated guide on eidolons as well since eclipse got nerfed please it would make my day
My main build is running breach surge over her 1 with large range and duration its quite nice since the surges instantly get pulled in to the bubble multiplying damage ludicrously and her 3s shards also proc the surge which means its a build that doesnt require weapons, credit doesnt go to me but to my buddy
Been praying for times like these since 2016
I'd always recommend picking mag for avid experienced RPG/ARPG video game players when starting out Warframe, she force you to learn stuff way sooner than the two others.
I am such a Mag main that i had three Primes of her on my main PC account, and after murging my Xbox with my PC (thanks to the cross safe release) i now have 4 Mag Primes.
One mage is something of my main, especially for the story missions (I quite earlly on fount my core aesthetic and color scheme), which leans mosr on Magitize buils (and has a fun Greedy pull build).
The next two from my PC only days have more niche build focuses (foci?). One leans more on Counter Pulse, the other not only leans on Fractureing Crush, but im trying to set this Crush one to be my Mag option vs infected (who has toxin and don't have armer nor ahields).
Im struggling with my Xbox newbie Mag Prime in what I want to do with her. I might use that one for the Nourish, Breach Surge, and/or Blood Alter related builds. Any idea would be helpfull, espeshilly if i put one of those Helmenth abilities onto my Main main one.
I dont clame to be an expert in anything much, but i am always willing to give pointers to new players to the whole game about mag (and in general), but also help other veterans that are just starting or struggling with Mag. Regardless, I like looking at videos like this so i can see other main of Mag's views on our girl, and to see if their is a nugget of new information about her i did not know.
On that note: while this video did not expectly mention this, but I heared from another video that Magnetize stop pulling in none targeted/new enemies into the bubble once the main target/"host" enemy dies. However in my personal observations during my own gameplay (and not in the simulator), the bubble pulls enemies in regardless of the state of the original target, so i am not sure where the "stop pulling enemies in" bit comes frome. Any information on this bit would also help.
Thanks for reading this far of my TED Talk of a post, and happy farming. 😊
Nah Oppenheimer mag is crazy I tried it out and ohh boy I never had this much fun in like 4 years of playing warframe thanks for the idea (build)
I had issues with Mag survivability when I started playing her more so I added Resonator to her 1. It kind of stuck afterwards. Now I use big range bubbles and resonator CC grouping up and CCing mobs and often marching them to bubbles or setting up bubbles for me.
Mag starter here 7 years ago, still loving her more than ever 💖
Sidenote: Mag + Nataruk= enemies and gpus melter
for gaining shield back polarize vs crush without castinig speed: crush is instant. polarize u have to wait till the end of the animation for the shield to come back. (forget the name of youtuber but the video is titiled somehitng like how not to die as mag or survive with mag) once pointed out changed how i played with her
did u mention the " X {?} damage" on both magnatize and polarize that scales with strength? (think x2|x3 respectively) . tho not entirley sure what the number actually implies
I was today in elite sanctuary with Poor Nidus..and there was a Mag Guy ..somehow we come to third stage..but i died again and he could not resurrect me..but keep playing,i said to him YOU ARE WIELDING GOD AMONG FRAMES OFC U WILL MAKE IT...and he did..Im Mag main so we had a little chat after..ofc we speak about Builds..guy same as me do not Run Rolling Guard and Prime footed....he was fighting 4 necromecs at one point..Simply there is no Warframe that can be comparable with Mag Power...yes you can chease with invisible Frames in Lvl cap..but you can not Chease Infested lvl cap survival,i think that Mag is only Frame that can do lvl Cap infested Survival solo ...cuz he is a Fastest killer..and there is no other Frame that can Kill fast hoards of lvl 9999 enemys..(I heard that Gauss can nuke lvl cap,but never saw it)..
Thanks for this! I want to like mag. I like her kit, and she can be fun to play, but even with rolling guard and overshields, she's too squishy for me on sp. I know it's a skill issue (beat you to it). It's just that I'm not sure how to change up my playstyle to make her viable for me.
Hmmm focus on casting speed thats what i can say. Put on 2-3 amber shards for casting speed and i promise you mag will feel amazing. IF you feel like you going to die before you can cast your 4 cast her 3 as it will immediately give you shields too and has a faster animation
Mag's Greedy Pull USED to pile up loot for your whole team.
Was great for Defense missions
yeah, i still remember the mag and mesa combo in a certain defense mission
Making me want to get Mag Prime to give her another shot.
Do it! >:)
For more survivability u can stay in the bubble but not in the middle and u can't get shooted only effects can hit u
That makes sense :)
Wasn't until I picked her in The Circuit that I realized she was sooo good.
I had solo'd The Fragmented One *2 different times!!* by then lol
funny parti is, all tree starters frames are excellent later on in the game, Excalibur is what i would call the easiest path toward steel path while mag and volt are indeniably late game monster capable of reaching levels caps
Im not a fan of excal personally. Mag and Volt have my heart
@@WarframeFlo yeah, i found excal, too basic :v but thats just me
Mag is my favorite frame by far.
I recently got her prime and now I’m working on slapping 5 tau yellows (all casting) while wearing minion drip. So far I have 2 and It’s beautifully stupid.
Me who started a few weeks ago, doesn't know what's doing and picked mag seeing this: 😮😱
There are SO many more builds and playstyles for Mag. Her versatility is magnificent. She can solo every square inch of the game (and has; it's been documented on the forum).
The first frame I played with and always go back to. 90% of my gameplay is with mag
Great vid!
I’ve been a mag main since 2018, I love her
Ironic, we were so close to guessing that title down to a T...
Edit : 2700 armor cap, that means in 3 casts of polarize, you'll just strip an entire tileset, no LoS restrictions.
What can i say haha. us youtubers are so predictable!
@WarframeFlo you're actually difficult to predict in certain situations, Flo. Part of your charm
@@joshuathomasverghese1341 hehe
I’m a mag main but her weakness to toxin is a real pain.
Especially against high level infested enemies.
This is probably obvious but you should death bubble enemies in doorways you can basically lock down an entire room with kill balls that collect energy and loot.
My current main frames are mag and yareli. Mag is just good an loyal merulina augment made yareli very good as a solo frame.
I literally haven’t built May simply because I lack the heirloom skin and I haven’t found any other fashion style that I’d like for her :(
My go to frame for void cascade. I run secondary focused builds abusing Secondary Outburst. Her 1 pulls tons of enemies setting them up for ground finishers, enabling easy stacks of melee crescendo. Not sure if this will work after the jade shadows update, as they are changing the way ground finishers work.
I like mag, but I’ve mained Rhino and Harrow for over 7 years
As someone who just started playing days ago, this was very helpful. I'm still trying to understand 1/4 of the game and movement. One of my many questions is, where do I buy Energy Nexus?
Mag is one of those frames that can kill all with only her abilities WELL into deep SP like lvl 1000+. Meaning the average player with a good setup won’t ever really need a strong weapon. My fav frame :)
MAG IS SO BEAUTIFUL
She is and i LOVE her heirloom skin
@WarframeFlo I was hoping they would let us buy the heirloom when the new ember launches I wasn't playing when it came out and I want it so bad
@@hoopla5502 Unfortunately for legal reasons, they cannot re-release the Mag heirloom. It was confirmed by Rebecca during one of the livestreams.
@@StrangeLeader damn that's ass, well at least I know now . Thx
Good work 🤜🤛
no u
I like Mag on paper but actually playing her always felt a bit too clunky for me, there just so many more comfortable strong warframes to play. I feel like you need to put too much effort into Mag to play her effectively.
Blood altar looks fun though i already see how you can make your team blind with it.
When I first started playing Warframe how about 5 or 6 years ago I chose Mag as my starting Warframe just based off the ability is it shown on screen I thought Excalibur was a little underwhelming I thought volt was a little overwhelming and Mag just seemed like a great overall Choice even though I hated the way she looked definitely a great frame
Quick question what’s the focus school
I myself have not really explored all the Focus Shools, but it seems to me to largely depend on your overall build's needs and your energy economy. If you feel that equilibrium (or energy nexus) is not doing enough, and you don't have or don't want to use Nourish Halminth or Death Cube (Prime) and it's energy giving precept mod, then Zenuric (spelling?) is a good default.
Lol. I picked mag as my starter then every video says choose volt...was just about to start over(only played a few hours) then see this video..
Men use mag for junction bosses
Legends use rhino iron skin and hashafashafasha melee on the spectre
I use grendel and just eat them.
chomp
Have you tried Kuva Bramma you can proc Deadhead if you shoot above the bubble the projectiles will go in the bubble straight to their head
Rip blood alter mag :(
Well of life mag still works, but being able to put the bubble up high was OP.
More good weapons for Mag include : Supra Vandel, Tenet Detron, Tombfinger kitguns, Kuva Drakoon
I prefer getting rid of her 3 and replacing it with Breach Surge. The amount of CC and free damage from Breach Surge is amazing. For weapons I almost always use Nataruk or Tenet ArcaPlasmor.
Ah, what a nice video to watch
mag's my favorite frame and i find there's 0 reason to run rolling guard on her. just press 3 or 4 and you get your shield gate back up no problem.
even the odd toxin eximus enemy isn't enough to justify it. just avoid it or pop into ur operator for a while if it manages to get to you(which it shouldn't)
also you didnt mention that weapon with 100% punchtrought are really great for her 2
If I want to strip armor I take Ash but my love is Banshee with all the dmg amplifiers.
Why do i here Shy screaming in agony once she would ever hear that title?
Mags passive or abilities should have something to do with magnetic , mag should easily be the best counter to eximus over guard