DEVi VS DIV anti gods of caucasus and middle eastern mythology

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  • Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
  • in this video we disguss the origins of persian and greater middle eastern Div and Caucasian Devi, how they are similar and how they differ.
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  • @seoh1501
    @seoh1501 Місяць тому +4

    absolute gem of a find of a channel. can´t wait for more and more videos aproaching caucasian myths!

  • @XilverWithaXi
    @XilverWithaXi 6 місяців тому +17

    It's a true rarity to see linguistic anthropology, especially regarding Caucasian mythos. I hope this series stretches on, unto the ends of the topic. Fine work, Bordo.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  6 місяців тому +4

      I got 3-4 videos stuck in editing just about this topic, hopefully I'll beat the ADHD worms in my brain soon and continue uploading

    • @XilverWithaXi
      @XilverWithaXi 6 місяців тому

      @@thebordoshow Well I guarantee they'll be absolute winners, regardless of the release schedule.
      I do wish that I could offer some help, despite my lack of familiarity with non-English etymologies. Depending on the type of editing you're aspiring to, I might be of use should you be inclined.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  6 місяців тому +1

      @@XilverWithaXi no worries, just knowing that there are people who want to watch what I make is a big boost on its own!

    • @XilverWithaXi
      @XilverWithaXi 6 місяців тому

      @@thebordoshow Cheers to that! You've at least one more loyal watcher; of that, I can assure.

  • @chipsiko4
    @chipsiko4 10 місяців тому +19

    წარმატებები! დიდი ხანი ვეძებდი საინტერესო ქართულ იუთუბ არხს და მგონი ძლივს ვიპოვე

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +9

      გაიხარე!
      აქ ინგლისურად ვაკეთებ, მსოფლიო პოპულარიზაციისთვის, სხვებმაც რო გაიგონ საქართველოს და კავკასიის შესახებ, ფეისბუკზე კი ქართულად ვტვირთავ ხოლმე.
      ლინკია აღწერაში თუ დაგაინტერესებს

  • @sleeromon4312
    @sleeromon4312 3 дні тому

    ძალიან გამიხარდა რომ ვიპოვე ეს ვიდეო :) Great narration ! Keep up the good work !

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +8

    Now, thanks to you, I have to rethink and rework all my TTRPG setting.... Thank you for this wonderful information and knowledge.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +3

      I'll delve deeper into Devi lore in the next few videos so you can use it for your game.
      I decided to make multiple part shorter videos rather than long ones.
      Can make content faster and easier.

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thebordoshow I swore to mae my setting based on the most ancient European Myths, and Caucasian area seems to preserve the root and the source. Imagine having a cyclops without calling it cyclops.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 yes, there is a separate class of Giants with one giant eye, they are far more dangerous than the Devi.
      One of them is Doriaskheveli or king Dorias who is the lord of all night creatures and those that dwell in caverns

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thebordoshow Do you have a bibliography to share? You see, I'm trying to stay faithful to Ancient Europe in my game; ie= I made one of the Elven Nations to have a Scythian-like culture but with a way different behaviiour from Humans while having Human Scyths, and making different "bestiaries" for different regions helps a lot in worldbuilding.
      BTW, Thank you.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 unfortunately, other than some legends written down, most are folk tales passed down through stories.
      We really lack any original sources and have tons of local variations of same stories

  • @anmoldalal16
    @anmoldalal16 16 днів тому +2

    Dharma religions do not have the concept of a devil. I think we have to thank the Persians for his appearance. Nice video.

  • @TheShurikenZone
    @TheShurikenZone 10 місяців тому +10

    This was a fascinating video, my friend! I really enjoyed all the etymology you worked in, and the way you were able to situate these myths within a grander context. 👍👍I only wish the Machines had shown it to me sooner. heh

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому

      The algorithm is a cruel mistress!

  • @NyanWin-fv3gv
    @NyanWin-fv3gv 3 місяці тому +3

    Buddhism story:
    Marcus was a man who enjoy to do cleaning jobs and building roads and bridges. He became mayor later on. When he died he reincarnated as a deva. Asura was king of deva who drink all the time.He pulled down Asura a followers onto earth. When Asura woke up he think he is still. on Mount Meru ( Olumpus ). One day kapok forest where he lives is bloom. Then he realized he was pulled down to earth by Marcus. Then the war between deva and Asura went on till Marcus became son in law of Asura.

  • @manceraeder9915
    @manceraeder9915 2 місяці тому

    it was a true bliss to have stumbled upon your channel, being myself very interested in folklore and myth, I find your content at my taste, plus your accent is very pleasant and the narration and music were on point. Fine work, Bordo

  • @RohitSharma-il2of
    @RohitSharma-il2of 10 місяців тому +18

    this video makes me think, we demonized asuras because we were pissed at Zoroastrians, which makes Zoroastrians coming to India amongst all place when they were massacred by Muslims particularly interesting.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +10

      Yes, that is ironic.
      There is a small community of Zoroastrians in Georgia too, even though we fought them off for centuries too

    • @makito6527
      @makito6527 3 місяці тому +1

      @@thebordoshow i think it could be because despite the fighting(mostly because of the roman and greek interferance)the long time the these people spent together had forged a sort of respectful rivelry if not a forgotten sense of kinship because of the half a millenia of georgia being Zoroastrians themselves, and sort of a same thing with indians, despite a few desputes iranians and indians were mostly trade partners for as long as the first persian empire or even older, the thing is that the relationships between nations has always been complicated, specially that iranians do share some blood with both nations, with georgians through cassites and with indians through aryans, lol my inner history nerd just woke up but overall i just love these little connections between nations its simply beautiful

  • @akaking7499
    @akaking7499 10 місяців тому +4

    Talk about different types of devi, like Bakbakdevi or 1 eyed devi

  • @doom1609
    @doom1609 6 місяців тому +2

    Please do cover more stories! Your videos are very interesting

  • @LaPtaVerdad
    @LaPtaVerdad 6 місяців тому +2

    Incredible video my man

  • @mahyar2727
    @mahyar2727 10 місяців тому +3

    Thief (English)
    Dieb (German)
    Deus (Greek)
    Div (Persian)
    Deva (Hindi)

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      Interesting linguistic link I didn't know abouf

    • @tfan2222
      @tfan2222 3 місяці тому +1

      It is such a great shame a fairly decent and interesting channel is constantly plagued by completely incorrect information from its viewers. For starters, Thief and Dieb are cognates. However, Greek Deus…isn’t even Greek! That’s Latin! And it’s from the indo-European word that Týr is from! (As well as Old English Tiw et al). Not related in the slightest! In regards to Div, I am unable to check that at the moment, though considering how incorrect you’ve been so far, I don’t have much faith in it. Deva isn’t Hindi! It’s Sanskrit, though it *is* cognate with Deus. All that said, your comment is horribly misleading to the uninformed.

  • @cream583
    @cream583 Місяць тому +1

    Wish you success brother

  • @andrewhildner
    @andrewhildner 5 місяців тому +1

    I would love more detail not the specific stuff you'd need to possibly do research on but generalities that I may not be familiar with but are common knowledge for you

  • @teyanuputorti7927
    @teyanuputorti7927 17 днів тому

    what fascinating tale

  • @NyanWin-fv3gv
    @NyanWin-fv3gv 3 місяці тому +1

    Asura become Tura in italy and Arthur in English. in Buddhism Asura are diva who live near oceans. In polynesian story Asura ( tua ) are sprits who live on the mainland.

    • @tfan2222
      @tfan2222 3 місяці тому +3

      …Arthur comes from Latin Arthurus, coming from Welsh “arth,” meaning “bear.”

  • @DemetriosNavras
    @DemetriosNavras 9 місяців тому +2

    thank you, beautiful work !
    Can you share please the names of the films shown at 05:25 and at 06:13?

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!
      The clips are from old Georgian movie called Ciskara a popular Georgian fairy tale.

    • @DemetriosNavras
      @DemetriosNavras 9 місяців тому

      @@thebordoshow thank you for the answer, what about the colour one from 05:25? it looks like it is from another movie

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  9 місяців тому

      @@DemetriosNavras oh thats Legend of Surami fortress
      quite a heavy movie made by famous director Parajanov

    • @DemetriosNavras
      @DemetriosNavras 9 місяців тому

      @@thebordoshow looks amazing, thanks so much

  • @halflifeger4179
    @halflifeger4179 3 місяці тому

    this channel has been missing in my life

  • @paikman
    @paikman 10 місяців тому +3

    What are their origin story and where did they go?

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      I'll cover it in the next episode

  • @joshjacob1530
    @joshjacob1530 3 місяці тому +1

    well explained.

    • @joshjacob1530
      @joshjacob1530 3 місяці тому +1

      tho identification and corrosponding which actors are who and which people is the debate.

  • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
    @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +3

    Devi... Deva... Devs...

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому

      All technically different deities and demons from different pantheons

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +1

      @@thebordoshow All of those names pointing to the same entities...

    • @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
      @nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 10 місяців тому +1

      @@thebordoshow just like CEOs of ten corporations using different nick names in each office. XD

  • @oswaldrabbit1409
    @oswaldrabbit1409 3 місяці тому

    Good Stuff!

  • @antediluvian2380
    @antediluvian2380 Місяць тому

    muito bom

  • @meh6643
    @meh6643 10 місяців тому +2

    whats the deal with Amirani?
    tell the story already

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +2

      I'll cover it soon

    • @meh6643
      @meh6643 10 місяців тому

      @@thebordoshow I await!

  • @shadowgod1797
    @shadowgod1797 3 місяці тому

    well tbh their origin is from iran divs are mainly part of persian/iranian mythology and culture

  • @xerez62610
    @xerez62610 Місяць тому

    Hatred is very human and divine

  • @NA-yb9sj
    @NA-yb9sj 10 місяців тому +4

    basically a bunch of hypocrites saying the same thing but don't recognize it simply because they make different noise.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      Sorry, don't understand the comment. can you explain what you mean?

    • @NA-yb9sj
      @NA-yb9sj 10 місяців тому +2

      @@thebordoshow basically my god is god and your god is not god.

    • @thebordoshow
      @thebordoshow  10 місяців тому +1

      @@NA-yb9sj yea, godwars

    • @pubbahubbabba
      @pubbahubbabba Місяць тому

      @@NA-yb9sj shut up mongo

  • @MonkeyMustard-mx1kq
    @MonkeyMustard-mx1kq 6 місяців тому +1

    You are cool

  • @jayceasar2661
    @jayceasar2661 10 днів тому

    dr devi is hotttttt❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 10 місяців тому +1

    🗿👍