I’ve read somewhere before that Lilith was married to Asmodeus. Is this just another variation and if so how did it originate. Thank you for all that you do. 👌🍻
In the bible, isn't it the Abrahamic god who levels a curse of difficult childbirth on Eve and all her female descendants? Why blame demons when Lord Jealous already did such a great job?
Notes from an alternate Timeline: Eve bit the apple, granting her omniscience, and saw the *fracture* in God's creation: Lili had fled, the Work was impure! And so, by offering Adam a bite, Eve proved the flaw to God: when God arrived to ask what Adam had done, Adam *blames his own free will upon temptation* ... how could God give Adam omniscience, from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, as well as omnipotence, from the Tree of Eternal Life, if Adam would allow himself to be controlled by others? Even the Serpent realized that risk of impure godhood, saying "We must stop him from becoming LIKE US." That was what Eve saw, and proved. Lili fled; she was not preferring the wilderness or her role in it. It was a failed parentage on the part of God; look to the old Phoenician story of Persephone. Samael is the same groom as Dis. The wheel of time returns to Yom Kippur, when vows are renewed; the Age of Pisces was the renewal of vows, when Lili could break her wedding to Samael, Persephone could break her wedding to Dis. Persephone, until that Age, was ONLY allowed to reach the surface due to a *bargain* : that she sacrifice her son, the Three-Faced God Bacchus, in his child-form, iacus. When the angel Gabriel came to pour the lily of the Holy Spirit into Mary, the angel *told* Mary that her child would be named 'iesu' - which was the name for that Three-Faced child of Persephone, iacu. Persephone's son was sacrificed for the last time, on the Yom Kippur of the Wheel of TIme, to liberate the world from the bloody child-sacrifice of the Eleusinian Mystery.
Even before the 1970s the name Lilith, or rather Lilit, experienced a surge in popularity among Armenians that seems to have continued to this day. Apparently it was kickstarted by the writer Avetik Isahakyan, who wrote a short story based on the legend of Lilith as Adam's first wife back in the 1920s.
@@youtubestudiosucks978 there was an old aramaic phrase about it. I don't remember the actual phrase but it basically meant first *special* sin. Apparently if you start a sin trend you would be cursed by the throne. Started with Lucifer(casting from heaven), followed by Lilith(all her children killed by 3 angels mentioned in the video and unable to have children), Cain(walk the earth till the end of earth and not belong anywhere, not loved properly) etc. I couldnt find any sources to the claims of being named after but I was told their names are also cursed, allegedly if you are named after them you will be like them. I mean this belief exists in many cultures even outside bible or torah influence. Being named after somebody makes you become like them overtime. Some sort of fate or destiny.
Future societies are going to think we praised Pizza and Super Mario. "We believe humans traveled for miles to gather around for a special ritual called 'Pizza Party' and praised a plumber named Mario who fancied a princess of peaches."
I think a lot about this. I wonder if the Ugandan Knuckles mural in Uganda will survive thousands of years and future anthropologist will believe it was a deity
I find the idea that Lilith became a demon because my boy Adam wouldn't allow her to be on top for a while so she just flat-out left him, particularly hilarious.
@@AW-uv3cbto give adam some credit, god did basically make him and lilith as two different species so most likely their 'marriage' was them trying to attack eachother for food
A thought just hit me... I wonder how many of the bowls originated because someone was caught cheating on their spouse and blamed a "demon" for putting the idea in their head. Tracing the origins of ideas and practices is invaluable for helping modern audiences.
There is some confusion with succubi/incubi here. I don't see any sexual congress mentioned, just attacks on both grown-ups and especially children. Demons were personifications of disease in most of history and in most religions - not tempters to unchristian behaviour. Most children died before reaching adulthood.
@@hyperfixatedd Except you're forgetting that Jesus was a very real person who performed very real miracles in front of countless witnesses. Christianity didn't spread like wildfire across the planet cause of made up story time. It happened because Jesus proved himself in front of many and word spread. So you know. Maybe try to avoid saying blasphemous things if you care about your soul at all.
I think one could make the argument that the name "Lilith" became more popular due to pop culture. With more shows concerning witches, angels, demons, etc., Lilith was a name used quite a bit in these shows - Supernatural, Sabrina, and/or Lucifer (I'm sure others as well, too).
"Demonic personifications of sexual envy" That's definitely the name of my death metal band's first album, when we finally make one...after I start a band...after I learn to play an instrument.
It is always fascinating to get a glimpse into the beliefs and superstitions of earlier periods, beyond what the ancient texts say they SHOULD believe, rather than what they actually did believe.
Still most of these beliefs and superstitions predates the hebrew bible as he himself said, and the ideas came from mesopotamia. Still we have to understand that not all terms mean proper names but are just terms or even metaphors, which people would have understood because they were familiar with the terms because of language similarity. The part of lilith being used as a term for a night creature is a good example of this.
Either you're too young to know, or so old you've forgotten the partner of your first wet dream. If dreams are "superstition" then dogs (dreaming creatures) are true believers.
The funny thing about ancient characters everyone knows and loves is they are often adopted over time to fit a narrative people at the time are trying to push regardless of how they act in the story
@@darcolomew Usually the core characteristics are what stays the same with most mythical characters. Mother of Demons or Succubus seems to stick with her. I really don't know her first story, it might be lost to time.
@@NobleWolf yes I agree, However people think fan fiction is a new concept, my counter argument: the Iliad, the Odyssey, the rig Veda, the prose/poetic Edda, apocryphal scripture. She is a real entity, in my faith she is the mother of my patron spirit, but I understand that her story is much older
@anthroimperzia3927not the baby killing version (that’s only a few, probably ancient Incels ). The independent, strong, refuses to be a victim goddess ✨Lilith✨
And as my favourite professor in Theology 'The early church and beliefs' class in university explains, this was early explanations of medical conditions, such as epilepsy, cardiac arrest, infarction etc. Think about it, in the 1970s and 1980s we did not even know the words for autism, ADHD etc. We constantly evolve, learn, understand and develop. Humans are a fascinating species.
Yes, I kept thinking of the Frasier "Lilith" all through the video. I am guessing it is no accident that the writers picked that name for that character. She is a strong forceful modern competent woman on the one hand and yet has (for Frasier at least) a succubus-like component.
this reminds me of the chinese who believe that a man cannot rest in peace if he died unmarried so they perform ghost marriages. some even resorted to stealing dead female bodies to do the ritual.
I’m getting so interested in the mythos of the abrahamic religions. Your video is perfect, and you have a voice that I can pay attention to and really absorb it!
"..there's not much daylight between exorcism and magickal practice" is an amazing quote. You said that perfectly, and I appreciate the depth you went into! This is the most informative video about Lilith I've come across. I love it.
I've heard of the Lilith trope before, but I wasn't aware of most of this. What I heard was that she was originally created to give an ID to Cain's unnamed wife. The story was she was created just like Adam, but they didn't mesh and so she left him. God then created Eve from a piece of Adam to ensure this didn't happen with her. Lilith then later mated with Cain, giving an identity to the unnamed woman Cain is said to have 'laid down with'. Mostly to me, she's just an overused trope in vampire fiction. Its common for her name to be attributed to the first vampire. Sometimes they try to tie this into a version of the biblical narrative, sometimes not. The original Vampire the Masquerade actually did a similar thing where they named Cain as the first vampire in the world's own fictional history. No idea if they ever used the name Lilith though. I think I also heard the name get used in this anime called Evangelion, where she was depicted as some sort of supernatural being, with a backstory loosely based on the bible.
There's an even more obscure tale of the first Eve. God made a first version of Eve (post Lilith) from Adam's rib while Adam was fully awake and witnessed the creation. Adam was so disgusted with seeing this Eve's innards being formed that he wouldn't have anything to do with her. God made a second version of Eve, only this time Adam was put to sleep during her creation. Apparently third time is a charm because this was Adam's final wife. What happened to Eve 1.0 is a mystery. If you look at this through the lens of orthodox Christian theology, Lilith and Eve 1.0 (and the Virgin Mary if you are Catholic) were the only humans that did not bear the stain of original sin (Lilith being a human until she uttered the ineffable name of God). I've got to see _Evangelion._
They did used Lilith in Vampire the Masquerade. She is the one who teached Cain how to use his vampiric powers. Also some vampires think she is their progenitor instead of Cain.
Evangelion has a twist on this, the progenitor of the beings called Angels is named Adam, while the progenitor of humanity (or lilim) is called Lilith. Meanwhile mecha robot Evangelions (Eva) were created from Adam.
@@rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794 Lilith's legacy is the dust she came from. Eve came from the living rib of Adam, and her legacy is the life of all humanity. Liliths are selected out of the gene pool. Eve continues the species. (Edit: The above is a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor. Are we clear? Please stop thinking you are clever by saying, we all return to dust. Look up the word legacy, and look up the word metaphor. Follow the concept of the idea that liliths are eliminated from the gene pool. The majority of women are not eliminated from the gene pool. Women who act like liliths are. Do you get it??)
Once I learned of Lilith in jewish mythology, i truly appreciated the fact that Frasier Crane's ex-wife was named Lilith but it always felt a little odd that Maris was canonically the she-witch in Frasier.
@@KarlWitsman I wonder the same thing. I really wish SSA published more birth names for a given year than just the top 1000. I'm sure there were bumps in the mid 80's & 90's from the character. I would imagine more so in the 90s because she became a more dimensional character then even though she appeared more frequently in cheer's
Lady Lilith from Hozuki's Coolheadedness, Lilith Magne from Hazbin Hotel, Lilit Shiningone from Rise Necromancer, Lilith Aesnland from Darkstalkers, Lilithmon from Digimon Fusions, Lilith from Rosario + Vampire, Lilith Clawthrone from Owl House, Yuki-Onna Lilith, Lilith from Vampair Series, Lilitu from Beccia Carlyn's Monstrous, Lilith from Sally Regan's Vampire Book, Lilith from Unknown, Lilits, Lilith from anime, Eve from Bible.
I love how I watch your videos for the religious history, and sometimes get videos like this which also explain where so many creatures in D&D came from. 😂
George MacDonald, an important Victorian writer, wrote a fantasy called "Lilith." The protagonist was a man and I think the woman was elusive, dangerous, but also a source of self-knowledge. Different thought: Japanese parents of sons who died unmarried in the wars of the first half of the twentieth century were sometimes haunted by those sons. There were a couple of shrines (or possibly temples) to which they could go for relief; they would buy a doll to serve as a bride for the son, and place in the doll's case a photograph and some other personal items to seal the "marriage." The doll stayed in the shrine but when the parents visited they sometimes saw that the doll and the photo had come to resemble each other a little, and the nightmares stopped. (Ellen Schattschneider is the anthropologist who wrote this up.) Obviously this is different from the marriage of the male and female Lilith figurines, since there is an element of mourning involved, and love for the son, as well as exorcism.
I highly recommend you read Lilith, if you haven't already. George MacDonald was a fascinating thinker and a very influential writer. Some of his stuff can be a little dense (and it definitely has a hard monarchist bent), but worth reading.
This is one of the things I'm most interested in when it comes to ancient Sumerian texts; because cuneiform was an unknown script for about a thousand years, their views of women and female spiritual power have been preserved without passing through the hands of the church, like most other ancient texts. The idea that positive Babylonian figures like Baphomet and Puzuzu were recast as demons in Judaism and Christianity makes me very curious about the goddess Ishtar, for instance.
This just isn't true. Baphomet isn't Babylonian and is probably a mispelling of Mohammad while Pazuzu is more an enemy of my enemy deal. Even then Pazuzu only became a Christian villain in a modern Hollywood film and had no presence in post-Christian context before then. Pazuzu is outright evil in some Babylonian exorcism texts unlike his Egyptian equivilant Bes who is more benevolent. Mathew 12:22-28 seems to reference a similar practice to using Pazuzu against Lamashtu but it talks about Baalzebub who isn't Babylonian so is probably a local equivilant to Pazuzu but not the same character anymore than Bes is the same. Evil female spirits from Christian cultures like Hags and Succubi are generally based on pagan spirits that were malevolent in the original pagan context like Lamia. Christians even reversed some of the demonisation done in the Bible by re-using the Queen of Heaven title desparaged by the prophets for the Virgin Mary. Even Ishtar is a villain on ocaison, pretty much all pagan deities mix positive and negative traits. Even the evil version of Venus in the Tannhauser legend is just emphasising elements of the character that are negative and destructive in pagan sources and never became the sole portrayal of Venus in Christian Europe. The Christian demon Asteroth is less a demonised Ishtar and more a original male demonic character re-using a name that wasn't understood any more.
@@AC-dk4fp You seem to be conflating Christian with Catholic. Catholics have not _reversed some of the demonization_ of the "Queen of Heaven" title used by Jeremiah; they worship the Virgin Mary in the same manner as _pagans_ worshipped *S T R* (Ishtar, Astarte, Ashtoreth, Ashtaroth, Easter, Et cetera) because they are all one and the same. *S T R* is the name of the female deity/demon, the vowels are nonexistent/interchangeable.
@@John.Flower.Productionsno, we do not worship the Virgin Mary. We honor her as the Queen of All Saints and ask for her prayers and intercession with God.
Baphomet is not a Biblical demon. I don't think Ishtar appears in the Bible but her Phoenician variant, Astarte/Ashtoreth, does, I forgot which book though
She was a "Daughter (descendent) of Anu". "I was created only to cause sickness to infants", genetic abnormalities perhaps? I think your early reference to Ishtar is spot on.
Ah, the thing about Lilith becoming a figure in Kabbalah is interesting. Because the other way that I've seen Kabbalists resolve the plot hole of the two creation myths in Genesis is to declare that Adam was created androgyne/intersex (hence "man and woman"), and creating Eve was a metaphor for the androgyne Adam splitting into two separate male and female beings.
What's really interesting is that feminism can be directly linked to birthrates falling below replacement in every advanced economy, and heading that direction everywhere else in the world too. So it's barely even a rebranding. Still a "threat" to motherhood, just preemptively now.
Just because woman are no longer forced to be breeding machines that is not why the population is falling so severely. It's simply because with climate change, war, recession egg it is no longer feasible to have kids
@@JCPRuckusno, feminism is stronger because of the falling birth rates. Economic progress leads to less Kids which gives women more time to fight for their rights! Feminism isn’t a threat to motherhood, only forced motherhood
I watched someone else's video on this same topic. Their video was confusing - too many details out in the weeds - yours was much easier to follow. Appreciate it.
The idea of doing such things isn't really new many peo0le believed/believe that naming you child after a entity or demon will grant protection from the namesake
You can be sure every "Lilith" is named so by their mothers, not by their fathers.... And that conjecture in itself is telling of what these people and sexes are like.
Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!
At least some variants of the "Adam's first wife" story have her not only leaving him out of refusal to accept inequality, but also as never turning evil until after God kills the children she had with Samael (or maybe it was a different demon?). So yeah, she had a backstory that any reasonable person would consider sympathetic well before there were enough reasonable people for that to become the dominant interpretation.
Goes against God's word because her husband doesn't let her be on top and sleeps with and has the children of a literal demon. Lol sympathetic come on now...
@@SpinachLeafshe demanded equality, because they were both made of mud. They were equal, yet she was expected to be lesser. Yes, I feel sympathetic. It was unfair
@@thekalenichannel1812 didn't she prove she was lesser by acting in such a way and committing such acts? Now she'll always be less than Adam, Eve and their descendants, so smart...
There's a concept of "albastı" (red come) or "alkarısı" (red woman) in Turkic and Altaic myths for female demons haunting postpartum woman. My Turkish grandmother used to believe in that. It's a common practice in some Anatolian villages.
It is truly fascinating to learn how much about religions that are accepted as fact, are really nothing more than fan fiction that gained a following. (Excellent vid as always)
For another pop-culture reference, a character called Lilith was introduced in DC Comics' Teen Titans series in 1970. She is a psychic/psionic and is generally a heroic character. While not a feature of her original appearances, in the 80s, she was revealed to be a Greek demigod.
There was a Blumhouse movie called Pure which had Lilith possessing a girl and empowering other girls to rise up against creepy possessive fathers in a Purity Ball.
@@strangelaw6384 Remember how some translations of lilith were "night creature" or something like that and also its almost universally an entity associated with the night given thats when the dirty deeds happen.
That's a good bit of the issue, surely. I also wouldn't be surprised if there weren't also a supernatural side to it. A number of people who seek exorcisms suffer merely from psychological issues and perhaps epilepsy. Then there are people who are truly possessed. You discount this truth at your own peril. There's more to this universe than can be explained by the theory of some cosmic explosion.
@@ireallylovecilantroHow can you be sure it's incorrect? You, in exercising that luciferian intellect, never left room for the possibility that there's a purely negative origin point for this "myth?" Something in no way related to the misunderstood illumination of man's once darkened understanding but something that is inconceivably sly and has nothing but a venomous contempt for human kind? Something real enough and evil enough to place a clawed hand over the mouth and nose of the infant in it's crib?
Absolutely fascinating and it's so great to hear the balanced presentation! You just earned a new subscriber and I might even join your class on October 26th.
I wonder were the writers of Cheers aware of some of this when they chose Lilith for the name of Frazer's wife? Her character seems to match a number of the expected attributes - both positive and negative.
I remember first watching Frasier with my mother as a kid and she busted out laughing at the name of Lilith and told me the story of Lilith - as understood by Jewish tradition; pretty sure it was deliberate.
Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!
I would love to see a kids' book entitled, "Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree" but not illustrated according to the original story; it sounds like something Maurice Sendak would've illustrated.
6:43 the bible in my language doesnt mantion Lilith in this verse. Instead of her it mentions either a "night dwarf/gremlin (ponočni škrat) " (direct trenslation) or an old usually creepy woman (vešča - that word can also mean a moth) depending on the version. So i think Isaiah doesnt mention Lilith in particular, but some demonic creature which in some translations was interprated as Lilith.
I took my teenaged niece and her friends to a Lilith Fair concert in the late 90s. All female artists, great show, wish I still had the concert T-shirt. I always wondered about the "Adam's first wife" title, now I know!
@@Saffron-sugar I envy you having the time to drop go to the library and research every single thing that you're curious about, and also the time to make left handed compliments to total strangers. In the 90's I was doing more pressing things such as running a business, raising my son, taking care of the home. With that behind me and the internet at my fingertips I have the time and ability explore subjects that intrigue me more easily.
When you spoke of the Great Scroll of Isaiah at Kumran referring to Liliths in the plural therefore being a certain class of demons for some reason my brain just instantly thought of "Karens" as a specific class of demons and I just started laughing way too loudly out loud to myself.
I’m typing my comments as I watch your video. The Mesopotamian demoness you mentioned that attacks during pregnancy reminds me of the aswang in Filipino culture.
Probably related, the spirits are noticeable and on record all over the world and seem to make up the personas of the people all around the world as well.
I was looking to make a similar comment. Also that she was Adam's first wife. This was where I first heard of her but as a child I had no idea of her back story.
I have something to add. Hindu religious texts called Puranas mention a sage Kashyap (region of Kashmir derives its name from him) who got married to 13 daughters of Daksha (an agent of creation of earth) named Aditi (not dual (separate) from one God), Diti (dual from God), Kadru, Danu, Arishta, Surasa, Surabhi, Vinata, Tamra, Krodhavasha, Ira, Vishva and Muni producing celestial beings like Adityas (gods children of Diti), Rudras, Vasus, Daityas (demon children of Aditi), Maruts, Danavas, Nāgas (snakes), Manasa, Iravati, Gandharvas, Aruna, Garuda, Apsaras (nymphs), etc. This woman Lilith appears to be Diti and Kashyap appears to be Adam.
I feel like every time I watch one of these videos I'm both amazed at how much there is to learn and left wanting to learn more. The evolution of myth is such a fascinating thing to me!
Anthropology BA here, but there is also another interesting thread where early pagan religions used to worship snakes... which were considered fertility symbols. Might also make for an interesting episode and how that might tie into the story of Genesis.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned how "Lilith" is the sympathetic antagonist of Diablo IV, which came out this year. This version of her is a demon, but one who wants humanity (whom are literally her children!) to triumph over both the High Heavens and the Burning Hells. Great story here, even if the gameplay is lacking compared to earlier games in the series.
I despise humans. They're evil, vile demons. I care for the pure in heart and soul only. Humanity as a whole made their choices. And as a result, those who did evil will be repaid for the evil they did. Eye for an eye.
I'd also heard (as part of the reclamation) of Lilith as a psychopomp. Chaya (Eve) is the Mother of Life therefore Lilith is the Mother of Death. This changed her role from the cause of infant mortality to the guardian of the souls of dead babies.
Ugh, my brain is failing me, but there's a Middle Eastern myth where two sister-goddesses are life and death respectively. I can't remember if it's Babylonian or Assyrian or Sumerian or what.
@@willlull5719she might not lead them anywhere, but instead just protects them and keeps them safe like a mother does with a child, but since these babies don’t have mothers anymore (since only the baby died) then Lilith is the one to take care of them for the mother
You showed a fascinating medallion, with a goddess standing on a kneeling horse which is in a boat. The goddess appears to wear striped socks and a fleece dress; she is holding a snake in each hand, in the manner of the Minoan goddess. There are 'hounds' that are either attacking her sides or merging into her (?). Can you please provide the name of this image; if there is a monograph which details its origin and meaning, that would be great. If this is Lilith, or a lilith, then there is evidently a large mythology implied by this depiction. Thank you.
That's Lamashtu as he named her in the video. She's not Lilith but potentially a prototype. You can find the image by searching for 'Pazuzu plaque' or just for Lamashtu. Sometimes she was called a goddess in spite of her purely malevolent nature but had been demoted to a spirit by the time those images were made.
The translation of the demon Lilith in Isa. 34:14 sticks out like a sore thumb. It just doesn't fit into the context. "Owl" would make a lot more sense.
You don't mention the Lilith festival of some of the top recent women singers and recording artists, a celebration of feminism. The album CD was very popular, too.
I met Lilith, very sweet lady. She knew the way out of the chamber of 32 doors and led me through the tunnel of night. At first I was concerned but sure enough she led me right.
Ok, I’m nearly convinced that the Lilith from the Alphabet of Ben Sira is just a manifestation of someone being lonely and sexually repressed in the Medieval era.
@@eicha41624 Some people take everything in the bible literally and written by God🙄😂, at the end of the day its just stories told by people, aswel as some historical stuff along with rules of how to live a good life!🤔, also back then people spoke differently and understood thing's differently compared to nowadays!🙂✌️
Dude. Don't. LILITH is a lie. Her name only appears in the catholic Bible as a substitute for SCREECH OWL. No demon. She is NOT in GENESIS! I promise you. Read it for yourself. Please don't listen to the lies of this guy.
There’s an Armenian author named Avetik Isahakyan who wrote a poem titled ‘Lilith’ back in 1892. The poem revolves around Lilith, Adam’s first wife. Isahakyan mentions that Lilith was made of fire, making her spontaneous and unexpected. By the end of the poem, she falls in love with a beautiful man, who, as it turns out, is Satan himself. Adam watches them kiss, and it breaks his heart, prompting God to create Eve from Adam’s rib while he’s asleep.
Fascinating. I had first heard of Lilith from Supernatural. I'd be interested to learn about the history of exorcisms. I'm Christian but the idea of demons has always been a far fetched one for me.
Loved this! Would like to see you do the Buddhist bodhisattva Guanyin/Kannon (觀音), as she has fascinating evolution and lore and arguably more central to East Asian Buddhist devotion than, well, the Buddha.
Thank you for your interesting and well founded videos! 😊 It's really interesting how man gods and demons people have worshipped and feared throughout history. I particularly like your references to modern day story telling, e.g. the fanfiction analogy for The Books of Enoch. It makes your content very accessible for (modern day) viewers 👍 There's so much re-use of older myths, and apparently Lilith is one such theme which got multiple reboots, e.g. to fill a plot hole 14:00 😊
hello, I love your channel I have learned so many things. I was brought up as a baptist, and had many questions. I dedicated much of my time in academia on learning the history of religion and religious text,. Thank You you really make things easy to understand and I always learn something new. Just wanted to thank you for all you do.
I've also heard the word Lullaby comes from the Hebrew, "Lilith-abi" (Goodbye Lilith, or be gone, Lilith).... makes sense with the 'stillborn, infant mortality' connection. A kind of 'incantation/chant' for mothers..
I think it's more likely that the phrase comes from Middle English "lulley by" which means "a song to lull away" due to the fact that that Middle English writings literally use "Lulley by" to mean lullaby. Also, I feel like 'abi' would mean something like 'father' not goodbye: compare to modern Hebrew 'avi' or Aramaic 'abba' (where we get the word abbot).
@@jared_bowden Yup, "abi" means dad or daddy. Hebrew doesn't even have a "goodbye". We use shalom as a greeting and a farewell. Lullaby absolutely comes from Middle English.
Thanks for posting such a fascinating and informative video! I'm writing a fantasy story that takes place in a universe wherein Adam and Lilith are the biblical first elves, and the mythology I'm writing for it combines the equality aspects of the "Adam's first wife" story with the "independent woman" aspect from modern interpretations. (The protagonist of the story is also named Lilith, after the first elf woman.) This was some great background info for me to consider for my worldbuilding!
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I’ve read somewhere before that Lilith was married to Asmodeus. Is this just another variation and if so how did it originate. Thank you for all that you do. 👌🍻
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In the bible, isn't it the Abrahamic god who levels a curse of difficult childbirth on Eve and all her female descendants? Why blame demons when Lord Jealous already did such a great job?
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Notes from an alternate Timeline:
Eve bit the apple, granting her omniscience, and saw the *fracture* in God's creation: Lili had fled, the Work was impure! And so, by offering Adam a bite, Eve proved the flaw to God: when God arrived to ask what Adam had done, Adam *blames his own free will upon temptation* ... how could God give Adam omniscience, from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, as well as omnipotence, from the Tree of Eternal Life, if Adam would allow himself to be controlled by others? Even the Serpent realized that risk of impure godhood, saying "We must stop him from becoming LIKE US." That was what Eve saw, and proved. Lili fled; she was not preferring the wilderness or her role in it. It was a failed parentage on the part of God; look to the old Phoenician story of Persephone. Samael is the same groom as Dis. The wheel of time returns to Yom Kippur, when vows are renewed; the Age of Pisces was the renewal of vows, when Lili could break her wedding to Samael, Persephone could break her wedding to Dis. Persephone, until that Age, was ONLY allowed to reach the surface due to a *bargain* : that she sacrifice her son, the Three-Faced God Bacchus, in his child-form, iacus. When the angel Gabriel came to pour the lily of the Holy Spirit into Mary, the angel *told* Mary that her child would be named 'iesu' - which was the name for that Three-Faced child of Persephone, iacu. Persephone's son was sacrificed for the last time, on the Yom Kippur of the Wheel of TIme, to liberate the world from the bloody child-sacrifice of the Eleusinian Mystery.
Even before the 1970s the name Lilith, or rather Lilit, experienced a surge in popularity among Armenians that seems to have continued to this day. Apparently it was kickstarted by the writer Avetik Isahakyan, who wrote a short story based on the legend of Lilith as Adam's first wife back in the 1920s.
That sounds fascinating! Is this short story translated somewhere on the internet? I couldn't find it.
Some people believe that even those who are named after Lilith, that have evil intentions.
I'm willing to bet a lot of it is Frasier fans going, oh that's a pretty name, google says it means night!
@@morgenstern7865wouldnt their faith protect them? Then why worry?
@@youtubestudiosucks978 there was an old aramaic phrase about it. I don't remember the actual phrase but it basically meant first *special* sin. Apparently if you start a sin trend you would be cursed by the throne. Started with Lucifer(casting from heaven), followed by Lilith(all her children killed by 3 angels mentioned in the video and unable to have children), Cain(walk the earth till the end of earth and not belong anywhere, not loved properly) etc. I couldnt find any sources to the claims of being named after but I was told their names are also cursed, allegedly if you are named after them you will be like them.
I mean this belief exists in many cultures even outside bible or torah influence. Being named after somebody makes you become like them overtime. Some sort of fate or destiny.
Imagine a kid making these bowls for a class project in Mesopotamia and we’re just overthinking it.
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Future societies are going to think we praised Pizza and Super Mario.
"We believe humans traveled for miles to gather around for a special ritual called 'Pizza Party' and praised a plumber named Mario who fancied a princess of peaches."
"We're whalers on the Moon!"
@@morgangates9345 gave her a snapping turtle🤣
I think a lot about this. I wonder if the Ugandan Knuckles mural in Uganda will survive thousands of years and future anthropologist will believe it was a deity
Last time I was this early, Adam still had all of his ribs
I'm honored to be the first person to congratulate you on this legendary comment.
Good one!
Yes, absolutely legendary.
How I long back to those days
@@Ancipital_The days when the majority of people were slaves? When education kinda sorta wasn't allowed? Or we just talking yesterday? 😂😂
I love the idea that ancient people were waking up with morning wood like "damn virgin ghosts!"
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Thank God I found a scholarly treatment of the subject rather than hype and misinformation. I appreciate your seriousness.
You know that a myth right?
@@Saskatchetooner The video is about the historical roots of legends.
@@christopherkahn6522 I wouldn’t call this film historically accurate.
@@Saskatchetooner This video does not promote these legends as real. It merely describes how these myths originated. Have you better sources?
@@christopherkahn6522people not understanding the academic study of folklore =/= beliefs will always frustrate me. Sorry you’re surrounded by nitwits
I find the idea that Lilith became a demon because my boy Adam wouldn't allow her to be on top for a while so she just flat-out left him, particularly hilarious.
Yeah, the irony of those guys not realising that they're making Adam look really weak and insecure!
Based Lilith
It’s not about being on top for a while. It’s about the disrespect. Rage Quit is the way to go.
@@AW-uv3cbto give adam some credit, god did basically make him and lilith as two different species so most likely their 'marriage' was them trying to attack eachother for food
@@SuperGlue4321He doesn't deserve respect for being made of the same mud as her. If you can't understand that, maybe you're still mud, after all.
I love that the ancient mesopotamian way to solve the ardat-lili hauntings is to play otherworldly matchmaker.
More like a divorce lawyer.
You should watch the video with British Museum curator Irving Finkel talking about mesopotamian ghosts: Mesopotamian ghostbusting with Irving Finkel.
@@kellydalstok8900 I already saw that😁 it's great!
It's like the demonology version of "why don't the incels just date each other"
That was only one way, another way is to call on Pazuzu, the demon from the exorcist, to drive them away.
A thought just hit me... I wonder how many of the bowls originated because someone was caught cheating on their spouse and blamed a "demon" for putting the idea in their head.
Tracing the origins of ideas and practices is invaluable for helping modern audiences.
There is some confusion with succubi/incubi here. I don't see any sexual congress mentioned, just attacks on both grown-ups and especially children. Demons were personifications of disease in most of history and in most religions - not tempters to unchristian behaviour. Most children died before reaching adulthood.
Which I believe is the same story behind Jesus lol
"Yeah.... I got impregnated by uhhhh.. GOD!"
I wondered if it was an early explanation of STI's/STD's, particularly as it causes harm to infants and mothers during childbirth
@@hyperfixatedd Except you're forgetting that Jesus was a very real person who performed very real miracles in front of countless witnesses. Christianity didn't spread like wildfire across the planet cause of made up story time. It happened because Jesus proved himself in front of many and word spread. So you know. Maybe try to avoid saying blasphemous things if you care about your soul at all.
@@bestieswithtesties sure buddy
I’d love to eat cereal out of an ancient incantation bowl
Meow!
I think one could make the argument that the name "Lilith" became more popular due to pop culture. With more shows concerning witches, angels, demons, etc., Lilith was a name used quite a bit in these shows - Supernatural, Sabrina, and/or Lucifer (I'm sure others as well, too).
Yes, as well as the idea of women retaining their femininity whilst taking no s*
One of the most important animes in history is called Neon Genesis Evangelion, in which Lilith is a key character.
Could Chlamydia become popular ?
@@victorfergnimma go ahead and say thats not a factor, no offense.
"Demonic personifications of sexual envy"
That's definitely the name of my death metal band's first album, when we finally make one...after I start a band...after I learn to play an instrument.
Step one is always a cool first album name
Lol
@@Jahzilla.right?!!
Too late 😊
Yes ❤
It is always fascinating to get a glimpse into the beliefs and superstitions of earlier periods, beyond what the ancient texts say they SHOULD believe, rather than what they actually did believe.
Still most of these beliefs and superstitions predates the hebrew bible as he himself said, and the ideas came from mesopotamia. Still we have to understand that not all terms mean proper names but are just terms or even metaphors, which people would have understood because they were familiar with the terms because of language similarity. The part of lilith being used as a term for a night creature is a good example of this.
Either you're too young to know,
or so old you've forgotten the partner
of your first wet dream.
If dreams are "superstition" then dogs (dreaming creatures) are true believers.
@@differous01 dogs ARE the true believers.
@@cipmaster1 The Israelite tradition also far pre-dates the Hebrew bible.
@@differous01I think she visited me a couple of nights ago. Oh what a party. 😂😂😂 Pax
The funny thing about ancient characters everyone knows and loves is they are often adopted over time to fit a narrative people at the time are trying to push regardless of how they act in the story
Fanfiction is as old as storytelling itself, what do you think the the first story's were? Lol
@@darcolomew Usually the core characteristics are what stays the same with most mythical characters. Mother of Demons or Succubus seems to stick with her. I really don't know her first story, it might be lost to time.
@@NobleWolf yes I agree, However people think fan fiction is a new concept, my counter argument: the Iliad, the Odyssey, the rig Veda, the prose/poetic Edda, apocryphal scripture. She is a real entity, in my faith she is the mother of my patron spirit, but I understand that her story is much older
@@darcolomewdon’t let them hear you call it fanfiction, they’ll get big mad 😂
"She is fierce, fearsome, divine..." ok slayyyy hunty 💅
@anthroimperzia3927it’s not, stan lilith
@anthroimperzia3927not the baby killing version (that’s only a few, probably ancient Incels ). The independent, strong, refuses to be a victim goddess
✨Lilith✨
@@MFLimited the west has fallen
@@Slapnuts9627lay off the benzos Mr. Petersen
@@untitled6391 That's Mr Westfallen to you
And as my favourite professor in Theology 'The early church and beliefs' class in university explains, this was early explanations of medical conditions, such as epilepsy, cardiac arrest, infarction etc. Think about it, in the 1970s and 1980s we did not even know the words for autism, ADHD etc. We constantly evolve, learn, understand and develop. Humans are a fascinating species.
Frasier's first wife may have also boosted the popularity of Lilith as a name.
Yes, I kept thinking of the Frasier "Lilith" all through the video. I am guessing it is no accident that the writers picked that name for that character. She is a strong forceful modern competent woman on the
one hand and yet has (for Frasier at least) a succubus-like component.
Oh, shoot! I'm embarrassed! Nanny G was Frasier's first wife. Lilith was number two.
Not a very flattering metaphor, lol. Frasier’s Lilith was pure toxicity, which means she earned her namesake.
@@bluesdealeri beg to differ.
"I'm Doctor Frasier Crane, and I'm listening." 😄
My first encounter with the name "Lilith" or the concept that Adam had a wife before Eve came from Neon Genesis Evangelion 😂
Same Here! Interesting re-interpretation of biblical themes in this anime.
Me too
Supernatural for me 🤙🏻
gotta hand it to the shows creators for translating their knowledge of this
Me too!
Imagine being so maidenless you have to become a demon about it when you die
supernatural incels . . .
this reminds me of the chinese who believe that a man cannot rest in peace if he died unmarried so they perform ghost marriages. some even resorted to stealing dead female bodies to do the ritual.
@@EnkiduShamesh Lol!🤣😂👍
You sound like eve
'to become a demon about it' sounds so funny for some reason
I’m getting so interested in the mythos of the abrahamic religions. Your video is perfect, and you have a voice that I can pay attention to and really absorb it!
"..there's not much daylight between exorcism and magickal practice" is an amazing quote. You said that perfectly, and I appreciate the depth you went into! This is the most informative video about Lilith I've come across. I love it.
I've heard of the Lilith trope before, but I wasn't aware of most of this.
What I heard was that she was originally created to give an ID to Cain's unnamed wife. The story was she was created just like Adam, but they didn't mesh and so she left him. God then created Eve from a piece of Adam to ensure this didn't happen with her. Lilith then later mated with Cain, giving an identity to the unnamed woman Cain is said to have 'laid down with'.
Mostly to me, she's just an overused trope in vampire fiction. Its common for her name to be attributed to the first vampire. Sometimes they try to tie this into a version of the biblical narrative, sometimes not. The original Vampire the Masquerade actually did a similar thing where they named Cain as the first vampire in the world's own fictional history. No idea if they ever used the name Lilith though. I think I also heard the name get used in this anime called Evangelion, where she was depicted as some sort of supernatural being, with a backstory loosely based on the bible.
There's an even more obscure tale of the first Eve. God made a first version of Eve (post Lilith) from Adam's rib while Adam was fully awake and witnessed the creation. Adam was so disgusted with seeing this Eve's innards being formed that he wouldn't have anything to do with her. God made a second version of Eve, only this time Adam was put to sleep during her creation. Apparently third time is a charm because this was Adam's final wife. What happened to Eve 1.0 is a mystery.
If you look at this through the lens of orthodox Christian theology, Lilith and Eve 1.0 (and the Virgin Mary if you are Catholic) were the only humans that did not bear the stain of original sin (Lilith being a human until she uttered the ineffable name of God).
I've got to see _Evangelion._
They did used Lilith in Vampire the Masquerade. She is the one who teached Cain how to use his vampiric powers. Also some vampires think she is their progenitor instead of Cain.
Evangelion has a twist on this, the progenitor of the beings called Angels is named Adam, while the progenitor of humanity (or lilim) is called Lilith.
Meanwhile mecha robot Evangelions (Eva) were created from Adam.
Eve is a stepford wife while Lilith is the original first borne.
@@rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794 Lilith's legacy is the dust she came from. Eve came from the living rib of Adam, and her legacy is the life of all humanity. Liliths are selected out of the gene pool. Eve continues the species. (Edit: The above is a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor. Are we clear? Please stop thinking you are clever by saying, we all return to dust. Look up the word legacy, and look up the word metaphor. Follow the concept of the idea that liliths are eliminated from the gene pool. The majority of women are not eliminated from the gene pool. Women who act like liliths are. Do you get it??)
Once I learned of Lilith in jewish mythology, i truly appreciated the fact that Frasier Crane's ex-wife was named Lilith but it always felt a little odd that Maris was canonically the she-witch in Frasier.
I wondered if the use of Lilith as the strong, smart female psychologist in that show helped to push the name back to popularity.
@@KarlWitsman I wonder the same thing. I really wish SSA published more birth names for a given year than just the top 1000. I'm sure there were bumps in the mid 80's & 90's from the character. I would imagine more so in the 90s because she became a more dimensional character then even though she appeared more frequently in cheer's
Just curious are your religious at all or atheist?
@@BeauxLo I'm of the heathen variety
@@KarlWitsmanLilith Faire.
This script was flawless. The return to the bowls halfway through there, flawless. Good voice too. Well done!
I’m glad medicine has come so far that we don’t sum it up to demons
Lady Lilith from Hozuki's Coolheadedness, Lilith Magne from Hazbin Hotel, Lilit Shiningone from Rise Necromancer, Lilith Aesnland from Darkstalkers, Lilithmon from Digimon Fusions, Lilith from Rosario + Vampire, Lilith Clawthrone from Owl House, Yuki-Onna Lilith, Lilith from Vampair Series, Lilitu from Beccia Carlyn's Monstrous, Lilith from Sally Regan's Vampire Book, Lilith from Unknown, Lilits, Lilith from anime, Eve from Bible.
Lilith from Darksider…..though that’s a literal interpretation of Lilith but she’s the creator of the Nephhlim race in that
I love how I watch your videos for the religious history, and sometimes get videos like this which also explain where so many creatures in D&D came from. 😂
Some also come from fantasy fiction, and don't forget D&D original creatures like Beholders and Owlbears.
I remember the sexy Succubus in the original Monster Manual
George MacDonald, an important Victorian writer, wrote a fantasy called "Lilith." The protagonist was a man and I think the woman was elusive, dangerous, but also a source of self-knowledge.
Different thought: Japanese parents of sons who died unmarried in the wars of the first half of the twentieth century were sometimes haunted by those sons. There were a couple of shrines (or possibly temples) to which they could go for relief; they would buy a doll to serve as a bride for the son, and place in the doll's case a photograph and some other personal items to seal the "marriage." The doll stayed in the shrine but when the parents visited they sometimes saw that the doll and the photo had come to resemble each other a little, and the nightmares stopped. (Ellen Schattschneider is the anthropologist who wrote this up.) Obviously this is different from the marriage of the male and female Lilith figurines, since there is an element of mourning involved, and love for the son, as well as exorcism.
I highly recommend you read Lilith, if you haven't already.
George MacDonald was a fascinating thinker and a very influential writer. Some of his stuff can be a little dense (and it definitely has a hard monarchist bent), but worth reading.
This is one of the things I'm most interested in when it comes to ancient Sumerian texts; because cuneiform was an unknown script for about a thousand years, their views of women and female spiritual power have been preserved without passing through the hands of the church, like most other ancient texts. The idea that positive Babylonian figures like Baphomet and Puzuzu were recast as demons in Judaism and Christianity makes me very curious about the goddess Ishtar, for instance.
This just isn't true. Baphomet isn't Babylonian and is probably a mispelling of Mohammad while Pazuzu is more an enemy of my enemy deal. Even then Pazuzu only became a Christian villain in a modern Hollywood film and had no presence in post-Christian context before then. Pazuzu is outright evil in some Babylonian exorcism texts unlike his Egyptian equivilant Bes who is more benevolent.
Mathew 12:22-28 seems to reference a similar practice to using Pazuzu against Lamashtu but it talks about Baalzebub who isn't Babylonian so is probably a local equivilant to Pazuzu but not the same character anymore than Bes is the same.
Evil female spirits from Christian cultures like Hags and Succubi are generally based on pagan spirits that were malevolent in the original pagan context like Lamia. Christians even reversed some of the demonisation done in the Bible by re-using the Queen of Heaven title desparaged by the prophets for the Virgin Mary.
Even Ishtar is a villain on ocaison, pretty much all pagan deities mix positive and negative traits. Even the evil version of Venus in the Tannhauser legend is just emphasising elements of the character that are negative and destructive in pagan sources and never became the sole portrayal of Venus in Christian Europe. The Christian demon Asteroth is less a demonised Ishtar and more a original male demonic character re-using a name that wasn't understood any more.
@@AC-dk4fp You seem to be conflating Christian with Catholic.
Catholics have not _reversed some of the demonization_ of the "Queen of Heaven" title used by Jeremiah; they worship the Virgin Mary in the same manner as _pagans_ worshipped *S T R* (Ishtar, Astarte, Ashtoreth, Ashtaroth, Easter, Et cetera) because they are all one and the same.
*S T R* is the name of the female deity/demon, the vowels are nonexistent/interchangeable.
@@John.Flower.Productionsno, we do not worship the Virgin Mary. We honor her as the Queen of All Saints and ask for her prayers and intercession with God.
Baphomet is not a Biblical demon. I don't think Ishtar appears in the Bible but her Phoenician variant, Astarte/Ashtoreth, does, I forgot which book though
@@manmoy4104 *S T R* is the name of the female deity/demon, the vowels are nonexistent/interchangeable.
It's really impressive how much detail there is of this in the graphic novel “Lucifer” by Vertigo (DC).
She was a "Daughter (descendent) of Anu". "I was created only to cause sickness to infants", genetic abnormalities perhaps? I think your early reference to Ishtar is spot on.
Really glad you’re covering this one. I tried to research it myself a while ago, but my trail went cold at “Maybe it was just a screech owl” lol
Ah, the thing about Lilith becoming a figure in Kabbalah is interesting. Because the other way that I've seen Kabbalists resolve the plot hole of the two creation myths in Genesis is to declare that Adam was created androgyne/intersex (hence "man and woman"), and creating Eve was a metaphor for the androgyne Adam splitting into two separate male and female beings.
I also think it's quite interesting that in the late 60s and 70s Lilith became this women liberation icon.
I cover that in the final act. An interesting 'rebrand' of the figure!
server of chicken soup lol
What's really interesting is that feminism can be directly linked to birthrates falling below replacement in every advanced economy, and heading that direction everywhere else in the world too. So it's barely even a rebranding. Still a "threat" to motherhood, just preemptively now.
Just because woman are no longer forced to be breeding machines that is not why the population is falling so severely. It's simply because with climate change, war, recession egg it is no longer feasible to have kids
@@JCPRuckusno, feminism is stronger because of the falling birth rates. Economic progress leads to less Kids which gives women more time to fight for their rights! Feminism isn’t a threat to motherhood, only forced motherhood
I watched someone else's video on this same topic. Their video was confusing - too many details out in the weeds - yours was much easier to follow. Appreciate it.
00:55 Did you see the snapper on that one?
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That was something insane 🤣
Definitely Demonic
I love the idea that some children are named after a baby killing demon
The idea of doing such things isn't really new many peo0le believed/believe that naming you child after a entity or demon will grant protection from the namesake
You can be sure every "Lilith" is named so by their mothers, not by their fathers....
And that conjecture in itself is telling of what these people and sexes are like.
Lilith isn’t a baby killer in other mythology
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@@justbreathe_isnt Lilith purely Jewish?
This character has always fascinated me. I'm glad you're covering it. I feel like I can trust your scholarship on this more so than other sources!
Trey The Explainer also has a good video on this, and a few other biblical characters
Esoterica has a few videos on her. It's a wild ride. If you want to go deeper
The Esoterica videos are very very good.
Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!
@jesusisking3814 ...okay...
At least some variants of the "Adam's first wife" story have her not only leaving him out of refusal to accept inequality, but also as never turning evil until after God kills the children she had with Samael (or maybe it was a different demon?).
So yeah, she had a backstory that any reasonable person would consider sympathetic well before there were enough reasonable people for that to become the dominant interpretation.
Goes against God's word because her husband doesn't let her be on top and sleeps with and has the children of a literal demon. Lol sympathetic come on now...
Quite literally hoe is mad
@@SpinachLeafshe demanded equality, because they were both made of mud. They were equal, yet she was expected to be lesser. Yes, I feel sympathetic. It was unfair
@@thekalenichannel1812 didn't she prove she was lesser by acting in such a way and committing such acts? Now she'll always be less than Adam, Eve and their descendants, so smart...
@@SpinachLeaf Someone who doesn't submit to oppression will never be lesser than the sheep and the oppressor.
Thanks
There's a concept of "albastı" (red come) or "alkarısı" (red woman) in Turkic and Altaic myths for female demons haunting postpartum woman. My Turkish grandmother used to believe in that. It's a common practice in some Anatolian villages.
Kırmızı kumaştan örtüler konur bebeğin ve annenin yatak başına.
It is truly fascinating to learn how much about religions that are accepted as fact, are really nothing more than fan fiction that gained a following. (Excellent vid as always)
Remarkably insightful!
Middle schooler comment
@@mohmj6815 sorry, some of made it past the 4th grade nitwit
I'd say it kind of is fan fiction all the way down : p
@@mohmj6815well then, the middle schooler is more clever than so many adults
Getting rid of ghosts by trying to get them laid is a practice we need to bring back.
lol, wasnt this idea floated in Ghostbusters when the stay puft guy attacks?
If you ever need an idea for merch, I'd buy an incantation cereal bowl. What a great way to start the day!
Thanks!
For another pop-culture reference, a character called Lilith was introduced in DC Comics' Teen Titans series in 1970. She is a psychic/psionic and is generally a heroic character. While not a feature of her original appearances, in the 80s, she was revealed to be a Greek demigod.
There was a Blumhouse movie called Pure which had Lilith possessing a girl and empowering other girls to rise up against creepy possessive fathers in a Purity Ball.
L plot
@@shelbyspeaks3287sounds brutally cringe
@@ethanhunt5243there's nothing more cringe than a purity ball with creepy fathers invested in their daughters virginity 🤢🤮
Seen it. Liked it
Yes, it was an episode of the “Into the Dark” series on Hulu.
The Word "Lilith" means nighttime in Amharic (Ethiopian Language) written as "ለሊት"
Amharic is a Semitic language too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an etymological link.
@@goodiesohhi that would be a very interesting etymological link
@@strangelaw6384 Remember how some translations of lilith were "night creature" or something like that and also its almost universally an entity associated with the night given thats when the dirty deeds happen.
I'm guessing these are all words related to Arabic ليلة meaning night.
@@goodiesohhi also cot deaths on a darker note
It sounds like “Lilith” is an effort to explain maternal and infant mortality by ppl who didn’t understand the facts of what happened
Exactly why people see her as an incorrectly villain-ized figure thus becoming a feminist icon for some now.
That's a good bit of the issue, surely. I also wouldn't be surprised if there weren't also a supernatural side to it. A number of people who seek exorcisms suffer merely from psychological issues and perhaps epilepsy. Then there are people who are truly possessed. You discount this truth at your own peril. There's more to this universe than can be explained by the theory of some cosmic explosion.
@@ireallylovecilantroHow can you be sure it's incorrect? You, in exercising that luciferian intellect, never left room for the possibility that there's a purely negative origin point for this "myth?" Something in no way related to the misunderstood illumination of man's once darkened understanding but something that is inconceivably sly and has nothing but a venomous contempt for human kind? Something real enough and evil enough to place a clawed hand over the mouth and nose of the infant in it's crib?
I think she's real because she has had enough spiritual energy cast toward her
@@jazmendunham7666source?
Im so happy i found your informative channel
Absolutely fascinating and it's so great to hear the balanced presentation! You just earned a new subscriber and I might even join your class on October 26th.
I wonder were the writers of Cheers aware of some of this when they chose Lilith for the name of Frazer's wife? Her character seems to match a number of the expected attributes - both positive and negative.
Oh, I would be shocked if it wasn’t deliberate on their part. It was one of the wittiest character name choices of all time.
I remember first watching Frasier with my mother as a kid and she busted out laughing at the name of Lilith and told me the story of Lilith - as understood by Jewish tradition; pretty sure it was deliberate.
That was my first thought.
Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!
Very cool. I've seen lots of different depictions of Lilith/liliths and wondered why there was so much variation. This clears it up!
I would love to see a kids' book entitled, "Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree" but not illustrated according to the original story; it sounds like something Maurice Sendak would've illustrated.
Or Dr Seues
This channel is always exceptional. This subject is one of my favorites. 👍
6:43 the bible in my language doesnt mantion Lilith in this verse. Instead of her it mentions either a "night dwarf/gremlin (ponočni škrat) " (direct trenslation) or an old usually creepy woman (vešča - that word can also mean a moth) depending on the version.
So i think Isaiah doesnt mention Lilith in particular, but some demonic creature which in some translations was interprated as Lilith.
I took my teenaged niece and her friends to a Lilith Fair concert in the late 90s. All female artists, great show, wish I still had the concert T-shirt.
I always wondered about the "Adam's first wife" title, now I know!
You went in the 90s and whenever curious about the title until now?
I think I envy you. I was in the library, in the 90s, trying to figure it out.
@@Saffron-sugar I envy you having the time to drop go to the library and research every single thing that you're curious about, and also the time to make left handed compliments to total strangers.
In the 90's I was doing more pressing things such as running a business, raising my son, taking care of the home. With that behind me and the internet at my fingertips I have the time and ability explore subjects that intrigue me more easily.
Adam should have let her take her turn. Sometimes you have to split the effort.
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When you spoke of the Great Scroll of Isaiah at Kumran referring to Liliths in the plural therefore being a certain class of demons for some reason my brain just instantly thought of "Karens" as a specific class of demons and I just started laughing way too loudly out loud to myself.
According to that drawing a Lilith had the biggest Virginia ever lol🤣🤣🤣 1:00
I’m typing my comments as I watch your video. The Mesopotamian demoness you mentioned that attacks during pregnancy reminds me of the aswang in Filipino culture.
Probably related, the spirits are noticeable and on record all over the world and seem to make up the personas of the people all around the world as well.
In The Chronicles of Narnia it's mentioned that the evil queen of Narnia is a daughter of Lilith not Eve
I was looking to make a similar comment. Also that she was Adam's first wife. This was where I first heard of her but as a child I had no idea of her back story.
Haven’t even watched it yet cuz I wanna watch without distractions, but I’m so pumped you’ve hit this topic
Because
I'm glad I watched this. Though I already had a general idea of Lilith's history, I would have never known how her legacy has changed in modernity.
I have something to add. Hindu religious texts called Puranas mention a sage Kashyap (region of Kashmir derives its name from him) who got married to 13 daughters of Daksha (an agent of creation of earth) named Aditi (not dual (separate) from one God), Diti (dual from God), Kadru, Danu, Arishta, Surasa, Surabhi, Vinata, Tamra, Krodhavasha, Ira, Vishva and Muni producing celestial beings like Adityas (gods children of Diti), Rudras, Vasus, Daityas (demon children of Aditi), Maruts, Danavas, Nāgas (snakes), Manasa, Iravati, Gandharvas, Aruna, Garuda, Apsaras (nymphs), etc. This woman Lilith appears to be Diti and Kashyap appears to be Adam.
Hello, I looked at your amazon list, but I was wondering if you had any specific reading recommendations on Lilith/the lilu? Great video, thank you!
I feel like every time I watch one of these videos I'm both amazed at how much there is to learn and left wanting to learn more. The evolution of myth is such a fascinating thing to me!
Anthropology BA here, but there is also another interesting thread where early pagan religions used to worship snakes... which were considered fertility symbols. Might also make for an interesting episode and how that might tie into the story of Genesis.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned how "Lilith" is the sympathetic antagonist of Diablo IV, which came out this year. This version of her is a demon, but one who wants humanity (whom are literally her children!) to triumph over both the High Heavens and the Burning Hells. Great story here, even if the gameplay is lacking compared to earlier games in the series.
Who are, not whom are.
Well I’m sure there are plenty of modern interpretations, they can’t all be mentioned. But that sounds very cool!
@@eldritchabominationI think he means in the comments. I scrolled for quite some time to find this.
I despise humans. They're evil, vile demons. I care for the pure in heart and soul only. Humanity as a whole made their choices. And as a result, those who did evil will be repaid for the evil they did. Eye for an eye.
Awesome work man. Great narration skills here.
Excellent and broad breakdown, ending with the ‘missing application’. Great job! - PhD, Applied Linguistics, Dallas Th. Seminary
I'd also heard (as part of the reclamation) of Lilith as a psychopomp. Chaya (Eve) is the Mother of Life therefore Lilith is the Mother of Death.
This changed her role from the cause of infant mortality to the guardian of the souls of dead babies.
Ugh, my brain is failing me, but there's a Middle Eastern myth where two sister-goddesses are life and death respectively. I can't remember if it's Babylonian or Assyrian or Sumerian or what.
Where exactly is she going to lead them after death?
@@Duiker36 You’re probably thinking of Inanna’s descent into the underworld to her sister Ereshkigal’s domain.
@@willlull5719she might not lead them anywhere, but instead just protects them and keeps them safe like a mother does with a child, but since these babies don’t have mothers anymore (since only the baby died) then Lilith is the one to take care of them for the mother
@@blakemcmillan5680 The topic is the idea of psychopomp^
Keep up the great work, Dr Henry 👏
You showed a fascinating medallion, with a goddess standing on a kneeling horse which is in a boat. The goddess appears to wear striped socks and a fleece dress; she is holding a snake in each hand, in the manner of the Minoan goddess. There are 'hounds' that are either attacking her sides or merging into her (?).
Can you please provide the name of this image; if there is a monograph which details its origin and meaning, that would be great. If this is Lilith, or a lilith, then there is evidently a large mythology implied by this depiction.
Thank you.
Have you tried reverse image search on Google
That's Lamashtu as he named her in the video. She's not Lilith but potentially a prototype. You can find the image by searching for 'Pazuzu plaque' or just for Lamashtu. Sometimes she was called a goddess in spite of her purely malevolent nature but had been demoted to a spirit by the time those images were made.
The translation of the demon Lilith in Isa. 34:14 sticks out like a sore thumb. It just doesn't fit into the context. "Owl" would make a lot more sense.
6:38 That verse seem very difficult in many languages. In the 1930 Norwegian edition, the translators used "troll" in this verse, and also owls.
You don't mention the Lilith festival of some of the top recent women singers and recording artists, a celebration of feminism. The album CD was very popular, too.
I was thinking the same thing. Lilith Fair founded by Sarah McLachlan. It was extremely popular in the late 90s.
I definitely remember the Lillith Festival
I met Lilith, very sweet lady. She knew the way out of the chamber of 32 doors and led me through the tunnel of night. At first I was concerned but sure enough she led me right.
Genesis?
Lol you’re literally entranced
Like the band btw
@@Eddie_da_head_ I dont
Ok, I’m nearly convinced that the Lilith from the Alphabet of Ben Sira is just a manifestation of someone being lonely and sexually repressed in the Medieval era.
Indeed!🤔👍
I was thinking while watching this "so all of this mythology is from some book a dude made up? Wild."
@@eicha41624 Some people take everything in the bible literally and written by God🙄😂, at the end of the day its just stories told by people, aswel as some historical stuff along with rules of how to live a good life!🤔, also back then people spoke differently and understood thing's differently compared to nowadays!🙂✌️
@@jamiecurran3544 but that story isn't even a Biblical source. We don't even know who wrote it
@@eicha41624 sorry I misread your conment I thought you were referring to the bible!🙄🤣😂👍
I'm not religious but you're so informative I would prefer learning from you. Thanks
Dude. Don't. LILITH is a lie. Her name only appears in the catholic Bible as a substitute for SCREECH OWL. No demon. She is NOT in GENESIS! I promise you. Read it for yourself. Please don't listen to the lies of this guy.
2:55 "young woman whose garment-pin a good man never loosened."
What I got out of this was that incantation bowls make a great gift for all of your newly-divorced guy friends 😂
My friend's Mexican grandmother said she was so old she remembered when snakes walked on two legs. Too bad he didn't ask if she met Lilith.
ok but why are the demon drawings so cute though 😳
It's a self image thing I recon. 🪄🎭🔮
There’s an Armenian author named Avetik Isahakyan who wrote a poem titled ‘Lilith’ back in 1892. The poem revolves around Lilith, Adam’s first wife. Isahakyan mentions that Lilith was made of fire, making her spontaneous and unexpected. By the end of the poem, she falls in love with a beautiful man, who, as it turns out, is Satan himself. Adam watches them kiss, and it breaks his heart, prompting God to create Eve from Adam’s rib while he’s asleep.
Fascinating. I had first heard of Lilith from Supernatural. I'd be interested to learn about the history of exorcisms. I'm Christian but the idea of demons has always been a far fetched one for me.
OK, who else first heard of Lilith from anime "Neon Genesis Evangelion"? Also, "Dead Sea Scrolls" were mentioned there too.
Watching two videos about Evangelion and this popped up
I couldn't stop thinking about Frasier during the video - but I also learned a lot!
So basically. She was bad because she wanted to get on top?
Wanted to be equal instead of submissive. This defied God's intent and that's a no bueno
@@chuck2703you know, the more i learn about this god fella the less i care for him.
@@Brainles5💀💀💀💀
That was just a later fanfiction
@@aero4379 Most of religion is just fanfiction
This makes me see Frasier in new lights! This is awesome!
She’s not my wife, guys.
Well yeah pretty much. There was just a medieval fanfiction about the liliths. So it's cool
yeah, cause you were the problem so she left you 😂
You wish :)
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I often see _incantation bowls_ at garage sales, but they often depict the British Royal Family or the crew of the USS _Enterprise_ (D).
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Loved this! Would like to see you do the Buddhist bodhisattva Guanyin/Kannon (觀音), as she has fascinating evolution and lore and arguably more central to East Asian Buddhist devotion than, well, the Buddha.
Thank you for your interesting and well founded videos! 😊
It's really interesting how man gods and demons people have worshipped and feared throughout history.
I particularly like your references to modern day story telling, e.g. the fanfiction analogy for The Books of Enoch. It makes your content very accessible for (modern day) viewers 👍
There's so much re-use of older myths, and apparently Lilith is one such theme which got multiple reboots, e.g. to fill a plot hole 14:00 😊
But surely, of all the gods the one I was born into by happenstance must be the one true god, right?
Thanks for this: it helped fill in several blanks I've had.
hello, I love your channel I have learned so many things. I was brought up as a baptist, and had many questions. I dedicated much of my time in academia on learning the history of religion and religious text,. Thank You you really make things easy to understand and I always learn something new.
Just wanted to thank you for all you do.
I've also heard the word Lullaby comes from the Hebrew, "Lilith-abi" (Goodbye Lilith, or be gone, Lilith).... makes sense with the 'stillborn, infant mortality' connection. A kind of 'incantation/chant' for mothers..
But abi means dad or daddy.
Thats a cool view
I think it's more likely that the phrase comes from Middle English "lulley by" which means "a song to lull away" due to the fact that that Middle English writings literally use "Lulley by" to mean lullaby. Also, I feel like 'abi' would mean something like 'father' not goodbye: compare to modern Hebrew 'avi' or Aramaic 'abba' (where we get the word abbot).
@@jared_bowden Yup, "abi" means dad or daddy. Hebrew doesn't even have a "goodbye". We use shalom as a greeting and a farewell. Lullaby absolutely comes from Middle English.
@@SewardWriter or is that Abba
Thanks for posting such a fascinating and informative video! I'm writing a fantasy story that takes place in a universe wherein Adam and Lilith are the biblical first elves, and the mythology I'm writing for it combines the equality aspects of the "Adam's first wife" story with the "independent woman" aspect from modern interpretations. (The protagonist of the story is also named Lilith, after the first elf woman.) This was some great background info for me to consider for my worldbuilding!
I’m so glad I’ve found this channel
Could the name Lilith becoming popular be out of inspiration from the character on "Frasier"? My sister named her kid Niles after her husband.