The Origins of Lilith | Adam's First Wife?

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  • @ReligionForBreakfast
    @ReligionForBreakfast  Рік тому +238

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    • @abysscallstoabyss55
      @abysscallstoabyss55 Рік тому +4

      I’ve read somewhere before that Lilith was married to Asmodeus. Is this just another variation and if so how did it originate. Thank you for all that you do. 👌🍻

    • @raya.p.l5919
      @raya.p.l5919 Рік тому +2

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    • @QueenBoadicea
      @QueenBoadicea Рік тому +11

      In the bible, isn't it the Abrahamic god who levels a curse of difficult childbirth on Eve and all her female descendants? Why blame demons when Lord Jealous already did such a great job?

    • @raya.p.l5919
      @raya.p.l5919 Рік тому

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    • @anthonyrepetto3474
      @anthonyrepetto3474 Рік тому

      Notes from an alternate Timeline:
      Eve bit the apple, granting her omniscience, and saw the *fracture* in God's creation: Lili had fled, the Work was impure! And so, by offering Adam a bite, Eve proved the flaw to God: when God arrived to ask what Adam had done, Adam *blames his own free will upon temptation* ... how could God give Adam omniscience, from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, as well as omnipotence, from the Tree of Eternal Life, if Adam would allow himself to be controlled by others? Even the Serpent realized that risk of impure godhood, saying "We must stop him from becoming LIKE US." That was what Eve saw, and proved. Lili fled; she was not preferring the wilderness or her role in it. It was a failed parentage on the part of God; look to the old Phoenician story of Persephone. Samael is the same groom as Dis. The wheel of time returns to Yom Kippur, when vows are renewed; the Age of Pisces was the renewal of vows, when Lili could break her wedding to Samael, Persephone could break her wedding to Dis. Persephone, until that Age, was ONLY allowed to reach the surface due to a *bargain* : that she sacrifice her son, the Three-Faced God Bacchus, in his child-form, iacus. When the angel Gabriel came to pour the lily of the Holy Spirit into Mary, the angel *told* Mary that her child would be named 'iesu' - which was the name for that Three-Faced child of Persephone, iacu. Persephone's son was sacrificed for the last time, on the Yom Kippur of the Wheel of TIme, to liberate the world from the bloody child-sacrifice of the Eleusinian Mystery.

  • @vonPeterhof
    @vonPeterhof Рік тому +2208

    Even before the 1970s the name Lilith, or rather Lilit, experienced a surge in popularity among Armenians that seems to have continued to this day. Apparently it was kickstarted by the writer Avetik Isahakyan, who wrote a short story based on the legend of Lilith as Adam's first wife back in the 1920s.

    • @arnbrandy
      @arnbrandy Рік тому +33

      That sounds fascinating! Is this short story translated somewhere on the internet? I couldn't find it.

    • @morgenstern7865
      @morgenstern7865 Рік тому +20

      Some people believe that even those who are named after Lilith, that have evil intentions.

    • @YoelFievelBenAvram
      @YoelFievelBenAvram Рік тому +32

      I'm willing to bet a lot of it is Frasier fans going, oh that's a pretty name, google says it means night!

    • @youtubestudiosucks978
      @youtubestudiosucks978 Рік тому +9

      ​@@morgenstern7865wouldnt their faith protect them? Then why worry?

    • @morgenstern7865
      @morgenstern7865 Рік тому +37

      @@youtubestudiosucks978 there was an old aramaic phrase about it. I don't remember the actual phrase but it basically meant first *special* sin. Apparently if you start a sin trend you would be cursed by the throne. Started with Lucifer(casting from heaven), followed by Lilith(all her children killed by 3 angels mentioned in the video and unable to have children), Cain(walk the earth till the end of earth and not belong anywhere, not loved properly) etc. I couldnt find any sources to the claims of being named after but I was told their names are also cursed, allegedly if you are named after them you will be like them.
      I mean this belief exists in many cultures even outside bible or torah influence. Being named after somebody makes you become like them overtime. Some sort of fate or destiny.

  • @17thsubject
    @17thsubject Рік тому +3922

    Imagine a kid making these bowls for a class project in Mesopotamia and we’re just overthinking it.

    • @boredtolife323
      @boredtolife323 Рік тому +34

      🙃

    • @Kepler_Mission
      @Kepler_Mission Рік тому +375

      Future societies are going to think we praised Pizza and Super Mario.
      "We believe humans traveled for miles to gather around for a special ritual called 'Pizza Party' and praised a plumber named Mario who fancied a princess of peaches."

    • @majorramsey3k
      @majorramsey3k Рік тому +39

      "We're whalers on the Moon!"

    • @rashawncarson
      @rashawncarson Рік тому +2

      ⁠@@morgangates9345 gave her a snapping turtle🤣

    • @Gerson.Reyes.C
      @Gerson.Reyes.C 11 місяців тому +83

      I think a lot about this. I wonder if the Ugandan Knuckles mural in Uganda will survive thousands of years and future anthropologist will believe it was a deity

  • @polariz5780
    @polariz5780 Рік тому +6508

    Last time I was this early, Adam still had all of his ribs

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 Рік тому +200

      I'm honored to be the first person to congratulate you on this legendary comment.

    • @h.huffen-puff4105
      @h.huffen-puff4105 Рік тому +33

      Good one!

    • @swanben11
      @swanben11 Рік тому +23

      Yes, absolutely legendary.

    • @Ancipital_
      @Ancipital_ Рік тому +14

      How I long back to those days

    • @orangejjay
      @orangejjay Рік тому +20

      ​@@Ancipital_The days when the majority of people were slaves? When education kinda sorta wasn't allowed? Or we just talking yesterday? 😂😂

  • @nibulux
    @nibulux Рік тому +704

    I love the idea that ancient people were waking up with morning wood like "damn virgin ghosts!"

  • @christopherkahn6522
    @christopherkahn6522 Рік тому +613

    Thank God I found a scholarly treatment of the subject rather than hype and misinformation. I appreciate your seriousness.

    • @Saskatchetooner
      @Saskatchetooner 2 місяці тому +1

      You know that a myth right?

    • @christopherkahn6522
      @christopherkahn6522 2 місяці тому +6

      @@Saskatchetooner The video is about the historical roots of legends.

    • @Saskatchetooner
      @Saskatchetooner 2 місяці тому

      @@christopherkahn6522 I wouldn’t call this film historically accurate.

    • @christopherkahn6522
      @christopherkahn6522 2 місяці тому +9

      @@Saskatchetooner This video does not promote these legends as real. It merely describes how these myths originated. Have you better sources?

    • @sumsum3873
      @sumsum3873 Місяць тому +8

      @@christopherkahn6522people not understanding the academic study of folklore =/= beliefs will always frustrate me. Sorry you’re surrounded by nitwits

  • @Rodrigo_Vega
    @Rodrigo_Vega Рік тому +6872

    I find the idea that Lilith became a demon because my boy Adam wouldn't allow her to be on top for a while so she just flat-out left him, particularly hilarious.

    • @AW-uv3cb
      @AW-uv3cb Рік тому +879

      Yeah, the irony of those guys not realising that they're making Adam look really weak and insecure!

    • @chemical2401
      @chemical2401 Рік тому +667

      Based Lilith

    • @SuperGlue4321
      @SuperGlue4321 Рік тому +255

      It’s not about being on top for a while. It’s about the disrespect. Rage Quit is the way to go.

    • @Ninja1Ninja2
      @Ninja1Ninja2 Рік тому +122

      ​​@@AW-uv3cbto give adam some credit, god did basically make him and lilith as two different species so most likely their 'marriage' was them trying to attack eachother for food

    • @bellenesatan
      @bellenesatan Рік тому +179

      ​@@SuperGlue4321He doesn't deserve respect for being made of the same mud as her. If you can't understand that, maybe you're still mud, after all.

  • @cramerfloro5936
    @cramerfloro5936 Рік тому +1768

    I love that the ancient mesopotamian way to solve the ardat-lili hauntings is to play otherworldly matchmaker.

    • @andrewsuryali8540
      @andrewsuryali8540 Рік тому +45

      More like a divorce lawyer.

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 Рік тому +17

      You should watch the video with British Museum curator Irving Finkel talking about mesopotamian ghosts: Mesopotamian ghostbusting with Irving Finkel.

    • @cramerfloro5936
      @cramerfloro5936 Рік тому +4

      @@kellydalstok8900 I already saw that😁 it's great!

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Рік тому +50

      It's like the demonology version of "why don't the incels just date each other"

    • @colinstewart3531
      @colinstewart3531 Рік тому +6

      That was only one way, another way is to call on Pazuzu, the demon from the exorcist, to drive them away.

  • @wompa70
    @wompa70 Рік тому +683

    A thought just hit me... I wonder how many of the bowls originated because someone was caught cheating on their spouse and blamed a "demon" for putting the idea in their head.
    Tracing the origins of ideas and practices is invaluable for helping modern audiences.

    • @pattheplanter
      @pattheplanter Рік тому

      There is some confusion with succubi/incubi here. I don't see any sexual congress mentioned, just attacks on both grown-ups and especially children. Demons were personifications of disease in most of history and in most religions - not tempters to unchristian behaviour. Most children died before reaching adulthood.

    • @hyperfixatedd
      @hyperfixatedd Рік тому +111

      Which I believe is the same story behind Jesus lol
      "Yeah.... I got impregnated by uhhhh.. GOD!"

    • @lauragallaher4529
      @lauragallaher4529 Рік тому +77

      I wondered if it was an early explanation of STI's/STD's, particularly as it causes harm to infants and mothers during childbirth

    • @bestieswithtesties
      @bestieswithtesties Рік тому +36

      @@hyperfixatedd Except you're forgetting that Jesus was a very real person who performed very real miracles in front of countless witnesses. Christianity didn't spread like wildfire across the planet cause of made up story time. It happened because Jesus proved himself in front of many and word spread. So you know. Maybe try to avoid saying blasphemous things if you care about your soul at all.

    • @sapphirefire291
      @sapphirefire291 Рік тому +82

      @@bestieswithtesties sure buddy

  • @swish3432
    @swish3432 Рік тому +138

    I’d love to eat cereal out of an ancient incantation bowl

  • @herseeingeyedog
    @herseeingeyedog Рік тому +102

    I think one could make the argument that the name "Lilith" became more popular due to pop culture. With more shows concerning witches, angels, demons, etc., Lilith was a name used quite a bit in these shows - Supernatural, Sabrina, and/or Lucifer (I'm sure others as well, too).

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar 8 місяців тому +1

      Yes, as well as the idea of women retaining their femininity whilst taking no s*

    • @victorfergn
      @victorfergn 5 місяців тому +6

      One of the most important animes in history is called Neon Genesis Evangelion, in which Lilith is a key character.

    • @ussstropicana
      @ussstropicana 4 місяці тому +2

      Could Chlamydia become popular ?

    • @BoHorn
      @BoHorn 2 місяці тому

      @@victorfergnimma go ahead and say thats not a factor, no offense.

  • @inwyrdn3691
    @inwyrdn3691 Рік тому +228

    "Demonic personifications of sexual envy"
    That's definitely the name of my death metal band's first album, when we finally make one...after I start a band...after I learn to play an instrument.

  • @felixfeliciano7011
    @felixfeliciano7011 Рік тому +698

    It is always fascinating to get a glimpse into the beliefs and superstitions of earlier periods, beyond what the ancient texts say they SHOULD believe, rather than what they actually did believe.

    • @cipmaster1
      @cipmaster1 Рік тому +29

      Still most of these beliefs and superstitions predates the hebrew bible as he himself said, and the ideas came from mesopotamia. Still we have to understand that not all terms mean proper names but are just terms or even metaphors, which people would have understood because they were familiar with the terms because of language similarity. The part of lilith being used as a term for a night creature is a good example of this.

    • @differous01
      @differous01 Рік тому +5

      Either you're too young to know,
      or so old you've forgotten the partner
      of your first wet dream.
      If dreams are "superstition" then dogs (dreaming creatures) are true believers.

    • @andruloni
      @andruloni Рік тому +14

      @@differous01 dogs ARE the true believers.

    • @billybobthekidiswack
      @billybobthekidiswack Рік тому +14

      @@cipmaster1 The Israelite tradition also far pre-dates the Hebrew bible.

    • @rduff1999
      @rduff1999 Рік тому +3

      ​@@differous01I think she visited me a couple of nights ago. Oh what a party. 😂😂😂 Pax

  • @NobleWolf
    @NobleWolf Рік тому +185

    The funny thing about ancient characters everyone knows and loves is they are often adopted over time to fit a narrative people at the time are trying to push regardless of how they act in the story

    • @darcolomew
      @darcolomew Місяць тому +1

      Fanfiction is as old as storytelling itself, what do you think the the first story's were? Lol

    • @NobleWolf
      @NobleWolf Місяць тому +2

      @@darcolomew Usually the core characteristics are what stays the same with most mythical characters. Mother of Demons or Succubus seems to stick with her. I really don't know her first story, it might be lost to time.

    • @darcolomew
      @darcolomew Місяць тому

      @@NobleWolf yes I agree, However people think fan fiction is a new concept, my counter argument: the Iliad, the Odyssey, the rig Veda, the prose/poetic Edda, apocryphal scripture. She is a real entity, in my faith she is the mother of my patron spirit, but I understand that her story is much older

    • @CrimsonMistress
      @CrimsonMistress 20 днів тому +2

      @@darcolomewdon’t let them hear you call it fanfiction, they’ll get big mad 😂

  • @mikeismasri
    @mikeismasri Рік тому +1297

    "She is fierce, fearsome, divine..." ok slayyyy hunty 💅

    • @kingchorus
      @kingchorus 10 місяців тому +95

      @anthroimperzia3927it’s not, stan lilith

    • @MFLimited
      @MFLimited 8 місяців тому +49

      @anthroimperzia3927not the baby killing version (that’s only a few, probably ancient Incels ). The independent, strong, refuses to be a victim goddess
      ✨Lilith✨

    • @Slapnuts9627
      @Slapnuts9627 8 місяців тому +24

      ​@@MFLimited the west has fallen

    • @untitled6391
      @untitled6391 8 місяців тому +43

      ​@@Slapnuts9627lay off the benzos Mr. Petersen

    • @Slapnuts9627
      @Slapnuts9627 8 місяців тому +12

      @@untitled6391 That's Mr Westfallen to you

  • @cocteaut
    @cocteaut 10 місяців тому +11

    And as my favourite professor in Theology 'The early church and beliefs' class in university explains, this was early explanations of medical conditions, such as epilepsy, cardiac arrest, infarction etc. Think about it, in the 1970s and 1980s we did not even know the words for autism, ADHD etc. We constantly evolve, learn, understand and develop. Humans are a fascinating species.

  • @pixel9548
    @pixel9548 Рік тому +623

    Frasier's first wife may have also boosted the popularity of Lilith as a name.

    • @patrickf.4440
      @patrickf.4440 Рік тому +75

      Yes, I kept thinking of the Frasier "Lilith" all through the video. I am guessing it is no accident that the writers picked that name for that character. She is a strong forceful modern competent woman on the
      one hand and yet has (for Frasier at least) a succubus-like component.

    • @pixel9548
      @pixel9548 Рік тому +24

      Oh, shoot! I'm embarrassed! Nanny G was Frasier's first wife. Lilith was number two.

    • @bluesdealer
      @bluesdealer Рік тому +21

      Not a very flattering metaphor, lol. Frasier’s Lilith was pure toxicity, which means she earned her namesake.

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality Рік тому +9

      ​@@bluesdealeri beg to differ.

    • @pbxn-3rdx-85percent
      @pbxn-3rdx-85percent Рік тому +8

      "I'm Doctor Frasier Crane, and I'm listening." 😄

  • @Rocklahaulle
    @Rocklahaulle Рік тому +1340

    My first encounter with the name "Lilith" or the concept that Adam had a wife before Eve came from Neon Genesis Evangelion 😂

  • @ggdynfytugfy6892
    @ggdynfytugfy6892 Рік тому +244

    Imagine being so maidenless you have to become a demon about it when you die

    • @EnkiduShamesh
      @EnkiduShamesh Рік тому +56

      supernatural incels . . .

    • @RoseNZieg
      @RoseNZieg Рік тому +20

      this reminds me of the chinese who believe that a man cannot rest in peace if he died unmarried so they perform ghost marriages. some even resorted to stealing dead female bodies to do the ritual.

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому +1

      @@EnkiduShamesh Lol!🤣😂👍

    • @rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794
      @rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794 Рік тому +1

      You sound like eve

    • @winterbear8633
      @winterbear8633 Рік тому +7

      'to become a demon about it' sounds so funny for some reason

  • @mousii3222
    @mousii3222 Рік тому +14

    I’m getting so interested in the mythos of the abrahamic religions. Your video is perfect, and you have a voice that I can pay attention to and really absorb it!

  • @lizzymoores
    @lizzymoores 7 місяців тому +3

    "..there's not much daylight between exorcism and magickal practice" is an amazing quote. You said that perfectly, and I appreciate the depth you went into! This is the most informative video about Lilith I've come across. I love it.

  • @lXBlackWolfXl
    @lXBlackWolfXl Рік тому +202

    I've heard of the Lilith trope before, but I wasn't aware of most of this.
    What I heard was that she was originally created to give an ID to Cain's unnamed wife. The story was she was created just like Adam, but they didn't mesh and so she left him. God then created Eve from a piece of Adam to ensure this didn't happen with her. Lilith then later mated with Cain, giving an identity to the unnamed woman Cain is said to have 'laid down with'.
    Mostly to me, she's just an overused trope in vampire fiction. Its common for her name to be attributed to the first vampire. Sometimes they try to tie this into a version of the biblical narrative, sometimes not. The original Vampire the Masquerade actually did a similar thing where they named Cain as the first vampire in the world's own fictional history. No idea if they ever used the name Lilith though. I think I also heard the name get used in this anime called Evangelion, where she was depicted as some sort of supernatural being, with a backstory loosely based on the bible.

    • @missanne2908
      @missanne2908 Рік тому +31

      There's an even more obscure tale of the first Eve. God made a first version of Eve (post Lilith) from Adam's rib while Adam was fully awake and witnessed the creation. Adam was so disgusted with seeing this Eve's innards being formed that he wouldn't have anything to do with her. God made a second version of Eve, only this time Adam was put to sleep during her creation. Apparently third time is a charm because this was Adam's final wife. What happened to Eve 1.0 is a mystery.
      If you look at this through the lens of orthodox Christian theology, Lilith and Eve 1.0 (and the Virgin Mary if you are Catholic) were the only humans that did not bear the stain of original sin (Lilith being a human until she uttered the ineffable name of God).
      I've got to see _Evangelion._

    • @Nitenshi
      @Nitenshi Рік тому +29

      They did used Lilith in Vampire the Masquerade. She is the one who teached Cain how to use his vampiric powers. Also some vampires think she is their progenitor instead of Cain.

    • @apokyrfter413
      @apokyrfter413 Рік тому +26

      Evangelion has a twist on this, the progenitor of the beings called Angels is named Adam, while the progenitor of humanity (or lilim) is called Lilith.
      Meanwhile mecha robot Evangelions (Eva) were created from Adam.

    • @rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794
      @rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794 Рік тому +8

      Eve is a stepford wife while Lilith is the original first borne.

    • @ejtattersall156
      @ejtattersall156 Рік тому +4

      @@rebeccaqallaboutthefeminin1794 Lilith's legacy is the dust she came from. Eve came from the living rib of Adam, and her legacy is the life of all humanity. Liliths are selected out of the gene pool. Eve continues the species. (Edit: The above is a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor, a metaphor. Are we clear? Please stop thinking you are clever by saying, we all return to dust. Look up the word legacy, and look up the word metaphor. Follow the concept of the idea that liliths are eliminated from the gene pool. The majority of women are not eliminated from the gene pool. Women who act like liliths are. Do you get it??)

  • @PMickeyDee
    @PMickeyDee Рік тому +253

    Once I learned of Lilith in jewish mythology, i truly appreciated the fact that Frasier Crane's ex-wife was named Lilith but it always felt a little odd that Maris was canonically the she-witch in Frasier.

    • @KarlWitsman
      @KarlWitsman Рік тому +10

      I wondered if the use of Lilith as the strong, smart female psychologist in that show helped to push the name back to popularity.

    • @PMickeyDee
      @PMickeyDee Рік тому +9

      @@KarlWitsman I wonder the same thing. I really wish SSA published more birth names for a given year than just the top 1000. I'm sure there were bumps in the mid 80's & 90's from the character. I would imagine more so in the 90s because she became a more dimensional character then even though she appeared more frequently in cheer's

    • @BeauxLo
      @BeauxLo Рік тому

      Just curious are your religious at all or atheist?

    • @PMickeyDee
      @PMickeyDee Рік тому +8

      @@BeauxLo I'm of the heathen variety

    • @catsberry4858
      @catsberry4858 Рік тому +3

      @@KarlWitsmanLilith Faire.

  • @keenoled
    @keenoled Рік тому +109

    This script was flawless. The return to the bowls halfway through there, flawless. Good voice too. Well done!

  • @jamesgrosrenaudjr812
    @jamesgrosrenaudjr812 Рік тому +19

    I’m glad medicine has come so far that we don’t sum it up to demons

  • @terrinauh1576
    @terrinauh1576 7 місяців тому +10

    Lady Lilith from Hozuki's Coolheadedness, Lilith Magne from Hazbin Hotel, Lilit Shiningone from Rise Necromancer, Lilith Aesnland from Darkstalkers, Lilithmon from Digimon Fusions, Lilith from Rosario + Vampire, Lilith Clawthrone from Owl House, Yuki-Onna Lilith, Lilith from Vampair Series, Lilitu from Beccia Carlyn's Monstrous, Lilith from Sally Regan's Vampire Book, Lilith from Unknown, Lilits, Lilith from anime, Eve from Bible.

    • @PrincessTwilightdash
      @PrincessTwilightdash 2 місяці тому

      Lilith from Darksider…..though that’s a literal interpretation of Lilith but she’s the creator of the Nephhlim race in that

  • @earlmehraban
    @earlmehraban Рік тому +229

    I love how I watch your videos for the religious history, and sometimes get videos like this which also explain where so many creatures in D&D came from. 😂

    • @videogollumer
      @videogollumer Рік тому +7

      Some also come from fantasy fiction, and don't forget D&D original creatures like Beholders and Owlbears.

    • @jonstfrancis
      @jonstfrancis Рік тому +8

      I remember the sexy Succubus in the original Monster Manual

  • @judyshoaf448
    @judyshoaf448 Рік тому +38

    George MacDonald, an important Victorian writer, wrote a fantasy called "Lilith." The protagonist was a man and I think the woman was elusive, dangerous, but also a source of self-knowledge.
    Different thought: Japanese parents of sons who died unmarried in the wars of the first half of the twentieth century were sometimes haunted by those sons. There were a couple of shrines (or possibly temples) to which they could go for relief; they would buy a doll to serve as a bride for the son, and place in the doll's case a photograph and some other personal items to seal the "marriage." The doll stayed in the shrine but when the parents visited they sometimes saw that the doll and the photo had come to resemble each other a little, and the nightmares stopped. (Ellen Schattschneider is the anthropologist who wrote this up.) Obviously this is different from the marriage of the male and female Lilith figurines, since there is an element of mourning involved, and love for the son, as well as exorcism.

    • @inwyrdn3691
      @inwyrdn3691 Рік тому +3

      I highly recommend you read Lilith, if you haven't already.
      George MacDonald was a fascinating thinker and a very influential writer. Some of his stuff can be a little dense (and it definitely has a hard monarchist bent), but worth reading.

  • @rurone
    @rurone Рік тому +224

    This is one of the things I'm most interested in when it comes to ancient Sumerian texts; because cuneiform was an unknown script for about a thousand years, their views of women and female spiritual power have been preserved without passing through the hands of the church, like most other ancient texts. The idea that positive Babylonian figures like Baphomet and Puzuzu were recast as demons in Judaism and Christianity makes me very curious about the goddess Ishtar, for instance.

    • @AC-dk4fp
      @AC-dk4fp Рік тому +45

      This just isn't true. Baphomet isn't Babylonian and is probably a mispelling of Mohammad while Pazuzu is more an enemy of my enemy deal. Even then Pazuzu only became a Christian villain in a modern Hollywood film and had no presence in post-Christian context before then. Pazuzu is outright evil in some Babylonian exorcism texts unlike his Egyptian equivilant Bes who is more benevolent.
      Mathew 12:22-28 seems to reference a similar practice to using Pazuzu against Lamashtu but it talks about Baalzebub who isn't Babylonian so is probably a local equivilant to Pazuzu but not the same character anymore than Bes is the same.
      Evil female spirits from Christian cultures like Hags and Succubi are generally based on pagan spirits that were malevolent in the original pagan context like Lamia. Christians even reversed some of the demonisation done in the Bible by re-using the Queen of Heaven title desparaged by the prophets for the Virgin Mary.
      Even Ishtar is a villain on ocaison, pretty much all pagan deities mix positive and negative traits. Even the evil version of Venus in the Tannhauser legend is just emphasising elements of the character that are negative and destructive in pagan sources and never became the sole portrayal of Venus in Christian Europe. The Christian demon Asteroth is less a demonised Ishtar and more a original male demonic character re-using a name that wasn't understood any more.

    • @John.Flower.Productions
      @John.Flower.Productions Рік тому +14

      @@AC-dk4fp You seem to be conflating Christian with Catholic.
      Catholics have not _reversed some of the demonization_ of the "Queen of Heaven" title used by Jeremiah; they worship the Virgin Mary in the same manner as _pagans_ worshipped *S T R* (Ishtar, Astarte, Ashtoreth, Ashtaroth, Easter, Et cetera) because they are all one and the same.
      *S T R* is the name of the female deity/demon, the vowels are nonexistent/interchangeable.

    • @jessicawurm23
      @jessicawurm23 Рік тому +32

      ​@@John.Flower.Productionsno, we do not worship the Virgin Mary. We honor her as the Queen of All Saints and ask for her prayers and intercession with God.

    • @manmoy4104
      @manmoy4104 Рік тому +20

      Baphomet is not a Biblical demon. I don't think Ishtar appears in the Bible but her Phoenician variant, Astarte/Ashtoreth, does, I forgot which book though

    • @John.Flower.Productions
      @John.Flower.Productions Рік тому +3

      @@manmoy4104 *S T R* is the name of the female deity/demon, the vowels are nonexistent/interchangeable.

  • @AngusJo
    @AngusJo 14 днів тому +2

    It's really impressive how much detail there is of this in the graphic novel “Lucifer” by Vertigo (DC).

  • @mr.bluebird6544
    @mr.bluebird6544 Рік тому +9

    She was a "Daughter (descendent) of Anu". "I was created only to cause sickness to infants", genetic abnormalities perhaps? I think your early reference to Ishtar is spot on.

  • @willowbarrelmaker8269
    @willowbarrelmaker8269 Рік тому +89

    Really glad you’re covering this one. I tried to research it myself a while ago, but my trail went cold at “Maybe it was just a screech owl” lol

  • @fenix0seraph
    @fenix0seraph Рік тому +50

    Ah, the thing about Lilith becoming a figure in Kabbalah is interesting. Because the other way that I've seen Kabbalists resolve the plot hole of the two creation myths in Genesis is to declare that Adam was created androgyne/intersex (hence "man and woman"), and creating Eve was a metaphor for the androgyne Adam splitting into two separate male and female beings.

  • @grapeshot
    @grapeshot Рік тому +156

    I also think it's quite interesting that in the late 60s and 70s Lilith became this women liberation icon.

    • @ReligionForBreakfast
      @ReligionForBreakfast  Рік тому +77

      I cover that in the final act. An interesting 'rebrand' of the figure!

    • @lakrids-pibe
      @lakrids-pibe Рік тому +22

      server of chicken soup lol

    • @JCPRuckus
      @JCPRuckus Рік тому +42

      What's really interesting is that feminism can be directly linked to birthrates falling below replacement in every advanced economy, and heading that direction everywhere else in the world too. So it's barely even a rebranding. Still a "threat" to motherhood, just preemptively now.

    • @HannHio-kv1ky
      @HannHio-kv1ky Рік тому

      Just because woman are no longer forced to be breeding machines that is not why the population is falling so severely. It's simply because with climate change, war, recession egg it is no longer feasible to have kids

    • @newjerseyyouth4853
      @newjerseyyouth4853 Рік тому +117

      @@JCPRuckusno, feminism is stronger because of the falling birth rates. Economic progress leads to less Kids which gives women more time to fight for their rights! Feminism isn’t a threat to motherhood, only forced motherhood

  • @whom382
    @whom382 4 місяці тому +4

    I watched someone else's video on this same topic. Their video was confusing - too many details out in the weeds - yours was much easier to follow. Appreciate it.

  • @mikeekim242
    @mikeekim242 10 місяців тому +27

    00:55 Did you see the snapper on that one?

  • @bobbyz9052
    @bobbyz9052 Рік тому +286

    I love the idea that some children are named after a baby killing demon

    • @crazyasalways9272
      @crazyasalways9272 Рік тому +34

      The idea of doing such things isn't really new many peo0le believed/believe that naming you child after a entity or demon will grant protection from the namesake

    • @poetsrear
      @poetsrear 10 місяців тому +12

      You can be sure every "Lilith" is named so by their mothers, not by their fathers....
      And that conjecture in itself is telling of what these people and sexes are like.

    • @justbreathe_
      @justbreathe_ 10 місяців тому +17

      Lilith isn’t a baby killer in other mythology

    • @journeytoself8067
      @journeytoself8067 8 місяців тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @danteortega6510
      @danteortega6510 8 місяців тому +4

      @@justbreathe_isnt Lilith purely Jewish?

  • @lbjcb5
    @lbjcb5 Рік тому +107

    This character has always fascinated me. I'm glad you're covering it. I feel like I can trust your scholarship on this more so than other sources!

    • @Divine_Dreamer_vaporwave
      @Divine_Dreamer_vaporwave Рік тому +7

      Trey The Explainer also has a good video on this, and a few other biblical characters

    • @hive_indicator318
      @hive_indicator318 Рік тому +8

      Esoterica has a few videos on her. It's a wild ride. If you want to go deeper

    • @ShayJaggerMitchell
      @ShayJaggerMitchell Рік тому +2

      The Esoterica videos are very very good.

    • @jesusisking3814
      @jesusisking3814 Рік тому

      Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!

    • @lbjcb5
      @lbjcb5 Рік тому +2

      @jesusisking3814 ...okay...

  • @NovaSaber
    @NovaSaber Рік тому +57

    At least some variants of the "Adam's first wife" story have her not only leaving him out of refusal to accept inequality, but also as never turning evil until after God kills the children she had with Samael (or maybe it was a different demon?).
    So yeah, she had a backstory that any reasonable person would consider sympathetic well before there were enough reasonable people for that to become the dominant interpretation.

    • @SpinachLeaf
      @SpinachLeaf Рік тому +9

      Goes against God's word because her husband doesn't let her be on top and sleeps with and has the children of a literal demon. Lol sympathetic come on now...

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 Рік тому

      Quite literally hoe is mad

    • @thekalenichannel1812
      @thekalenichannel1812 Рік тому +46

      ​@@SpinachLeafshe demanded equality, because they were both made of mud. They were equal, yet she was expected to be lesser. Yes, I feel sympathetic. It was unfair

    • @SpinachLeaf
      @SpinachLeaf Рік тому +7

      @@thekalenichannel1812 didn't she prove she was lesser by acting in such a way and committing such acts? Now she'll always be less than Adam, Eve and their descendants, so smart...

    • @mugwump7049
      @mugwump7049 Рік тому +41

      @@SpinachLeaf Someone who doesn't submit to oppression will never be lesser than the sheep and the oppressor.

  • @sunnygopale4070
    @sunnygopale4070 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @thewormemperor
    @thewormemperor Рік тому +8

    There's a concept of "albastı" (red come) or "alkarısı" (red woman) in Turkic and Altaic myths for female demons haunting postpartum woman. My Turkish grandmother used to believe in that. It's a common practice in some Anatolian villages.

    • @arzucufoglu8932
      @arzucufoglu8932 Рік тому

      Kırmızı kumaştan örtüler konur bebeğin ve annenin yatak başına.

  • @Lord-Stanhope
    @Lord-Stanhope Рік тому +307

    It is truly fascinating to learn how much about religions that are accepted as fact, are really nothing more than fan fiction that gained a following. (Excellent vid as always)

    • @pixel9548
      @pixel9548 Рік тому +9

      Remarkably insightful!

    • @mohmj6815
      @mohmj6815 Рік тому +55

      Middle schooler comment

    • @Lord-Stanhope
      @Lord-Stanhope Рік тому

      @@mohmj6815 sorry, some of made it past the 4th grade nitwit

    • @user-sl6gn1ss8p
      @user-sl6gn1ss8p Рік тому +28

      I'd say it kind of is fan fiction all the way down : p

    • @skarbuskreska
      @skarbuskreska Рік тому +61

      ​@@mohmj6815well then, the middle schooler is more clever than so many adults

  • @stilltoomanyhats
    @stilltoomanyhats Рік тому +37

    Getting rid of ghosts by trying to get them laid is a practice we need to bring back.

    • @johnritter6864
      @johnritter6864 10 місяців тому +3

      lol, wasnt this idea floated in Ghostbusters when the stay puft guy attacks?

  • @Pandaemoni
    @Pandaemoni Рік тому +19

    If you ever need an idea for merch, I'd buy an incantation cereal bowl. What a great way to start the day!

  • @lde-m8688
    @lde-m8688 11 місяців тому

    Thanks!

  • @Stevonicus
    @Stevonicus 11 місяців тому +6

    For another pop-culture reference, a character called Lilith was introduced in DC Comics' Teen Titans series in 1970. She is a psychic/psionic and is generally a heroic character. While not a feature of her original appearances, in the 80s, she was revealed to be a Greek demigod.

  • @kyrtuck
    @kyrtuck Рік тому +72

    There was a Blumhouse movie called Pure which had Lilith possessing a girl and empowering other girls to rise up against creepy possessive fathers in a Purity Ball.

    • @shelbyspeaks3287
      @shelbyspeaks3287 Рік тому +2

      L plot

    • @ethanhunt5243
      @ethanhunt5243 Рік тому +3

      @@shelbyspeaks3287sounds brutally cringe

    • @thekalenichannel1812
      @thekalenichannel1812 Рік тому

      ​@@ethanhunt5243there's nothing more cringe than a purity ball with creepy fathers invested in their daughters virginity 🤢🤮

    • @dominiquejones6758
      @dominiquejones6758 9 місяців тому +4

      Seen it. Liked it

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar 8 місяців тому +3

      Yes, it was an episode of the “Into the Dark” series on Hulu.

  • @nehemiah2223
    @nehemiah2223 Рік тому +76

    The Word "Lilith" means nighttime in Amharic (Ethiopian Language) written as "ለሊት"

    • @goodiesohhi
      @goodiesohhi Рік тому +11

      Amharic is a Semitic language too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's an etymological link.

    • @strangelaw6384
      @strangelaw6384 Рік тому

      @@goodiesohhi that would be a very interesting etymological link

    • @goodiesohhi
      @goodiesohhi Рік тому +5

      @@strangelaw6384 Remember how some translations of lilith were "night creature" or something like that and also its almost universally an entity associated with the night given thats when the dirty deeds happen.

    • @jonstfrancis
      @jonstfrancis Рік тому +1

      I'm guessing these are all words related to Arabic ليلة meaning night.

    • @jonstfrancis
      @jonstfrancis Рік тому

      @@goodiesohhi also cot deaths on a darker note

  • @Maximiliano896
    @Maximiliano896 Рік тому +90

    It sounds like “Lilith” is an effort to explain maternal and infant mortality by ppl who didn’t understand the facts of what happened

    • @ireallylovecilantro
      @ireallylovecilantro Рік тому +21

      Exactly why people see her as an incorrectly villain-ized figure thus becoming a feminist icon for some now.

    • @jazmendunham7666
      @jazmendunham7666 11 місяців тому

      That's a good bit of the issue, surely. I also wouldn't be surprised if there weren't also a supernatural side to it. A number of people who seek exorcisms suffer merely from psychological issues and perhaps epilepsy. Then there are people who are truly possessed. You discount this truth at your own peril. There's more to this universe than can be explained by the theory of some cosmic explosion.

    • @jazmendunham7666
      @jazmendunham7666 11 місяців тому

      ​@@ireallylovecilantroHow can you be sure it's incorrect? You, in exercising that luciferian intellect, never left room for the possibility that there's a purely negative origin point for this "myth?" Something in no way related to the misunderstood illumination of man's once darkened understanding but something that is inconceivably sly and has nothing but a venomous contempt for human kind? Something real enough and evil enough to place a clawed hand over the mouth and nose of the infant in it's crib?

    • @Anderson-tq1lw
      @Anderson-tq1lw 7 місяців тому

      I think she's real because she has had enough spiritual energy cast toward her

    • @tinystamp2742
      @tinystamp2742 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jazmendunham7666source?

  • @Strvngelovnge
    @Strvngelovnge Рік тому +5

    Im so happy i found your informative channel

  • @WeirdDarknessOfficial
    @WeirdDarknessOfficial Рік тому +6

    Absolutely fascinating and it's so great to hear the balanced presentation! You just earned a new subscriber and I might even join your class on October 26th.

  • @DeclanMBrennan
    @DeclanMBrennan Рік тому +104

    I wonder were the writers of Cheers aware of some of this when they chose Lilith for the name of Frazer's wife? Her character seems to match a number of the expected attributes - both positive and negative.

    • @rochelle2758
      @rochelle2758 Рік тому +25

      Oh, I would be shocked if it wasn’t deliberate on their part. It was one of the wittiest character name choices of all time.

    • @danielponder690
      @danielponder690 Рік тому +4

      I remember first watching Frasier with my mother as a kid and she busted out laughing at the name of Lilith and told me the story of Lilith - as understood by Jewish tradition; pretty sure it was deliberate.

    • @sylviam6535
      @sylviam6535 Рік тому +3

      That was my first thought.

    • @jesusisking3814
      @jesusisking3814 Рік тому

      Jesus Christ wants a personal relationship with you through the Holy Spirit, not religion and blind faith. You see, we all have sinned, and have broken God’s law (The Ten Commandments). Wrong doing deserves justice and must be punished (just like how a criminal has to pay for the crime they have committed) but God saved us from the eternal punishment of our sins by sending His Son Jesus Christ, fullness of God in flesh, a perfect, sinless sacrifice to pay the penalty for our sins by dying on the cross and resurrecting, so that we may have everlasting life. It is all finished and now for you to accept the free gift of grace, you must repent of your sins and put your faith in Jesus Christ and Bible says that His Blood will cover all of your sins, you will be forgiven, saved from eternal punishment, and be given everlasting life. By faith you will receive the Holy Spirit, become born again, know Jesus personally and He will transform your heart and clean you from the inside out. Turn away from sin, read the Bible, pray for the Holy Spirit to fill you and change you, obey the Word. Much love and God bless you!

  • @lupusdaemon6015
    @lupusdaemon6015 Рік тому +54

    Very cool. I've seen lots of different depictions of Lilith/liliths and wondered why there was so much variation. This clears it up!

  • @l.a.gothro3999
    @l.a.gothro3999 Рік тому +126

    I would love to see a kids' book entitled, "Gilgamesh and the Huluppu-Tree" but not illustrated according to the original story; it sounds like something Maurice Sendak would've illustrated.

  • @waltersstreet
    @waltersstreet Рік тому +3

    This channel is always exceptional. This subject is one of my favorites. 👍

  • @rsmlinar1720
    @rsmlinar1720 7 місяців тому +1

    6:43 the bible in my language doesnt mantion Lilith in this verse. Instead of her it mentions either a "night dwarf/gremlin (ponočni škrat) " (direct trenslation) or an old usually creepy woman (vešča - that word can also mean a moth) depending on the version.
    So i think Isaiah doesnt mention Lilith in particular, but some demonic creature which in some translations was interprated as Lilith.

  • @artheaded1
    @artheaded1 Рік тому +42

    I took my teenaged niece and her friends to a Lilith Fair concert in the late 90s. All female artists, great show, wish I still had the concert T-shirt.
    I always wondered about the "Adam's first wife" title, now I know!

    • @Saffron-sugar
      @Saffron-sugar 8 місяців тому +1

      You went in the 90s and whenever curious about the title until now?
      I think I envy you. I was in the library, in the 90s, trying to figure it out.

    • @artheaded1
      @artheaded1 8 місяців тому

      @@Saffron-sugar I envy you having the time to drop go to the library and research every single thing that you're curious about, and also the time to make left handed compliments to total strangers.
      In the 90's I was doing more pressing things such as running a business, raising my son, taking care of the home. With that behind me and the internet at my fingertips I have the time and ability explore subjects that intrigue me more easily.

  • @Nick-Lab
    @Nick-Lab Рік тому +27

    Adam should have let her take her turn. Sometimes you have to split the effort.

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 Рік тому +33

    When you spoke of the Great Scroll of Isaiah at Kumran referring to Liliths in the plural therefore being a certain class of demons for some reason my brain just instantly thought of "Karens" as a specific class of demons and I just started laughing way too loudly out loud to myself.

  • @EtNORMZ
    @EtNORMZ 10 місяців тому +8

    According to that drawing a Lilith had the biggest Virginia ever lol🤣🤣🤣 1:00

  • @ShayneReigns
    @ShayneReigns Рік тому +7

    I’m typing my comments as I watch your video. The Mesopotamian demoness you mentioned that attacks during pregnancy reminds me of the aswang in Filipino culture.

    • @SW-ii5gg
      @SW-ii5gg 4 місяці тому

      Probably related, the spirits are noticeable and on record all over the world and seem to make up the personas of the people all around the world as well.

  • @VictorianTimeTraveler
    @VictorianTimeTraveler Рік тому +58

    In The Chronicles of Narnia it's mentioned that the evil queen of Narnia is a daughter of Lilith not Eve

    • @susancorbett8155
      @susancorbett8155 Рік тому +11

      I was looking to make a similar comment. Also that she was Adam's first wife. This was where I first heard of her but as a child I had no idea of her back story.

  • @mxaviervega
    @mxaviervega Рік тому +20

    Haven’t even watched it yet cuz I wanna watch without distractions, but I’m so pumped you’ve hit this topic

  • @juhor.7594
    @juhor.7594 Рік тому +61

    I'm glad I watched this. Though I already had a general idea of Lilith's history, I would have never known how her legacy has changed in modernity.

  • @AnkitSingh-ok8ok
    @AnkitSingh-ok8ok Рік тому +4

    I have something to add. Hindu religious texts called Puranas mention a sage Kashyap (region of Kashmir derives its name from him) who got married to 13 daughters of Daksha (an agent of creation of earth) named Aditi (not dual (separate) from one God), Diti (dual from God), Kadru, Danu, Arishta, Surasa, Surabhi, Vinata, Tamra, Krodhavasha, Ira, Vishva and Muni producing celestial beings like Adityas (gods children of Diti), Rudras, Vasus, Daityas (demon children of Aditi), Maruts, Danavas, Nāgas (snakes), Manasa, Iravati, Gandharvas, Aruna, Garuda, Apsaras (nymphs), etc. This woman Lilith appears to be Diti and Kashyap appears to be Adam.

  • @erikagrohoskiperalta5239
    @erikagrohoskiperalta5239 Рік тому +4

    Hello, I looked at your amazon list, but I was wondering if you had any specific reading recommendations on Lilith/the lilu? Great video, thank you!

  • @kinilas
    @kinilas Рік тому +8

    I feel like every time I watch one of these videos I'm both amazed at how much there is to learn and left wanting to learn more. The evolution of myth is such a fascinating thing to me!

  • @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061
    @kimyoonmisurnamefirst7061 Рік тому +17

    Anthropology BA here, but there is also another interesting thread where early pagan religions used to worship snakes... which were considered fertility symbols. Might also make for an interesting episode and how that might tie into the story of Genesis.

  • @andrewlamoureux3808
    @andrewlamoureux3808 Рік тому +92

    I can't believe nobody has mentioned how "Lilith" is the sympathetic antagonist of Diablo IV, which came out this year. This version of her is a demon, but one who wants humanity (whom are literally her children!) to triumph over both the High Heavens and the Burning Hells. Great story here, even if the gameplay is lacking compared to earlier games in the series.

    • @Plethorality
      @Plethorality Рік тому

      Who are, not whom are.

    • @eldritchabomination
      @eldritchabomination Рік тому +3

      Well I’m sure there are plenty of modern interpretations, they can’t all be mentioned. But that sounds very cool!

    • @boggless2771
      @boggless2771 Рік тому

      ​@@eldritchabominationI think he means in the comments. I scrolled for quite some time to find this.

    • @amberlaughlin3518
      @amberlaughlin3518 Рік тому

      I despise humans. They're evil, vile demons. I care for the pure in heart and soul only. Humanity as a whole made their choices. And as a result, those who did evil will be repaid for the evil they did. Eye for an eye.

  • @joelpinto6094
    @joelpinto6094 Рік тому +2

    Awesome work man. Great narration skills here.

  • @BrianBeauchamp
    @BrianBeauchamp День тому

    Excellent and broad breakdown, ending with the ‘missing application’. Great job! - PhD, Applied Linguistics, Dallas Th. Seminary

  • @davidcheater4239
    @davidcheater4239 Рік тому +32

    I'd also heard (as part of the reclamation) of Lilith as a psychopomp. Chaya (Eve) is the Mother of Life therefore Lilith is the Mother of Death.
    This changed her role from the cause of infant mortality to the guardian of the souls of dead babies.

    • @Duiker36
      @Duiker36 Рік тому +4

      Ugh, my brain is failing me, but there's a Middle Eastern myth where two sister-goddesses are life and death respectively. I can't remember if it's Babylonian or Assyrian or Sumerian or what.

    • @willlull5719
      @willlull5719 Рік тому +1

      Where exactly is she going to lead them after death?

    • @willlull5719
      @willlull5719 Рік тому

      @@Duiker36 You’re probably thinking of Inanna’s descent into the underworld to her sister Ereshkigal’s domain.

    • @blakemcmillan5680
      @blakemcmillan5680 Рік тому +1

      @@willlull5719she might not lead them anywhere, but instead just protects them and keeps them safe like a mother does with a child, but since these babies don’t have mothers anymore (since only the baby died) then Lilith is the one to take care of them for the mother

    • @willlull5719
      @willlull5719 Рік тому +1

      @@blakemcmillan5680 The topic is the idea of psychopomp^

  • @SobekLOTFC
    @SobekLOTFC Рік тому +13

    Keep up the great work, Dr Henry 👏

  • @janetchennault4385
    @janetchennault4385 Рік тому +15

    You showed a fascinating medallion, with a goddess standing on a kneeling horse which is in a boat. The goddess appears to wear striped socks and a fleece dress; she is holding a snake in each hand, in the manner of the Minoan goddess. There are 'hounds' that are either attacking her sides or merging into her (?).
    Can you please provide the name of this image; if there is a monograph which details its origin and meaning, that would be great. If this is Lilith, or a lilith, then there is evidently a large mythology implied by this depiction.
    Thank you.

    • @asnekboi7232
      @asnekboi7232 Рік тому

      Have you tried reverse image search on Google

    • @AC-dk4fp
      @AC-dk4fp Рік тому +7

      That's Lamashtu as he named her in the video. She's not Lilith but potentially a prototype. You can find the image by searching for 'Pazuzu plaque' or just for Lamashtu. Sometimes she was called a goddess in spite of her purely malevolent nature but had been demoted to a spirit by the time those images were made.

  • @Colthrone
    @Colthrone 10 місяців тому

    The translation of the demon Lilith in Isa. 34:14 sticks out like a sore thumb. It just doesn't fit into the context. "Owl" would make a lot more sense.

  • @elvenkind6072
    @elvenkind6072 Рік тому +1

    6:38 That verse seem very difficult in many languages. In the 1930 Norwegian edition, the translators used "troll" in this verse, and also owls.

  • @EconAdviser
    @EconAdviser Рік тому +14

    You don't mention the Lilith festival of some of the top recent women singers and recording artists, a celebration of feminism. The album CD was very popular, too.

    • @danbreen3353
      @danbreen3353 Рік тому +6

      I was thinking the same thing. Lilith Fair founded by Sarah McLachlan. It was extremely popular in the late 90s.

    • @holbygrlNMN
      @holbygrlNMN Рік тому +2

      I definitely remember the Lillith Festival

  • @thecianinator
    @thecianinator Рік тому +14

    I met Lilith, very sweet lady. She knew the way out of the chamber of 32 doors and led me through the tunnel of night. At first I was concerned but sure enough she led me right.

  • @EbonyPenmarks
    @EbonyPenmarks Рік тому +28

    Ok, I’m nearly convinced that the Lilith from the Alphabet of Ben Sira is just a manifestation of someone being lonely and sexually repressed in the Medieval era.

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому +2

      Indeed!🤔👍

    • @eicha41624
      @eicha41624 Рік тому +5

      I was thinking while watching this "so all of this mythology is from some book a dude made up? Wild."

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому +1

      @@eicha41624 Some people take everything in the bible literally and written by God🙄😂, at the end of the day its just stories told by people, aswel as some historical stuff along with rules of how to live a good life!🤔, also back then people spoke differently and understood thing's differently compared to nowadays!🙂✌️

    • @eicha41624
      @eicha41624 Рік тому +5

      @@jamiecurran3544 but that story isn't even a Biblical source. We don't even know who wrote it

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому +1

      @@eicha41624 sorry I misread your conment I thought you were referring to the bible!🙄🤣😂👍

  • @topherquizz4066
    @topherquizz4066 6 місяців тому +4

    I'm not religious but you're so informative I would prefer learning from you. Thanks

    • @nomore2226
      @nomore2226 6 місяців тому +1

      Dude. Don't. LILITH is a lie. Her name only appears in the catholic Bible as a substitute for SCREECH OWL. No demon. She is NOT in GENESIS! I promise you. Read it for yourself. Please don't listen to the lies of this guy.

  • @ballinbalgruuf8198
    @ballinbalgruuf8198 4 місяці тому +2

    2:55 "young woman whose garment-pin a good man never loosened."

  • @matthewmagda4971
    @matthewmagda4971 Рік тому +15

    What I got out of this was that incantation bowls make a great gift for all of your newly-divorced guy friends 😂

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 Рік тому +9

    My friend's Mexican grandmother said she was so old she remembered when snakes walked on two legs. Too bad he didn't ask if she met Lilith.

  • @verityxenia7840
    @verityxenia7840 Рік тому +40

    ok but why are the demon drawings so cute though 😳

    • @SW-ii5gg
      @SW-ii5gg 4 місяці тому

      It's a self image thing I recon. 🪄🎭🔮

  • @emilavetisyan8148
    @emilavetisyan8148 9 місяців тому +5

    There’s an Armenian author named Avetik Isahakyan who wrote a poem titled ‘Lilith’ back in 1892. The poem revolves around Lilith, Adam’s first wife. Isahakyan mentions that Lilith was made of fire, making her spontaneous and unexpected. By the end of the poem, she falls in love with a beautiful man, who, as it turns out, is Satan himself. Adam watches them kiss, and it breaks his heart, prompting God to create Eve from Adam’s rib while he’s asleep.

  • @kenziehurlock
    @kenziehurlock Місяць тому +1

    Fascinating. I had first heard of Lilith from Supernatural. I'd be interested to learn about the history of exorcisms. I'm Christian but the idea of demons has always been a far fetched one for me.

  • @23trekkie
    @23trekkie Рік тому +16

    OK, who else first heard of Lilith from anime "Neon Genesis Evangelion"? Also, "Dead Sea Scrolls" were mentioned there too.

    • @Kekto934
      @Kekto934 Рік тому

      Watching two videos about Evangelion and this popped up

  • @sarahwatts7152
    @sarahwatts7152 Рік тому +5

    I couldn't stop thinking about Frasier during the video - but I also learned a lot!

  • @jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
    @jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 Рік тому +25

    So basically. She was bad because she wanted to get on top?

    • @chuck2703
      @chuck2703 Рік тому +17

      Wanted to be equal instead of submissive. This defied God's intent and that's a no bueno

    • @Brainles5
      @Brainles5 Рік тому +29

      ​@@chuck2703you know, the more i learn about this god fella the less i care for him.

    • @QueenOfTheComments
      @QueenOfTheComments 7 місяців тому

      @@Brainles5💀💀💀💀

    • @aero4379
      @aero4379 4 години тому

      That was just a later fanfiction

    • @jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745
      @jirojhasuo2ndgrandcompany745 3 години тому

      @@aero4379 Most of religion is just fanfiction

  • @sagsriv
    @sagsriv Рік тому +1

    This makes me see Frasier in new lights! This is awesome!

  • @adamthefirsthuman
    @adamthefirsthuman Рік тому +190

    She’s not my wife, guys.

    • @lesteryaytrippy7282
      @lesteryaytrippy7282 7 місяців тому +7

      Well yeah pretty much. There was just a medieval fanfiction about the liliths. So it's cool

    • @narruto_uzumaki
      @narruto_uzumaki 4 місяці тому +17

      yeah, cause you were the problem so she left you 😂

    • @marixalilith
      @marixalilith 2 місяці тому +1

      You wish :)

    • @xottic8175
      @xottic8175 2 місяці тому

      LOL

    • @asritanayek7561
      @asritanayek7561 2 місяці тому

      😂😂

  • @fuferito
    @fuferito Рік тому +8

    I often see _incantation bowls_ at garage sales, but they often depict the British Royal Family or the crew of the USS _Enterprise_ (D).

  • @feelin_fine
    @feelin_fine Рік тому +14

    Loved this! Would like to see you do the Buddhist bodhisattva Guanyin/Kannon (觀音), as she has fascinating evolution and lore and arguably more central to East Asian Buddhist devotion than, well, the Buddha.

  • @justmy-profilename
    @justmy-profilename Рік тому +80

    Thank you for your interesting and well founded videos! 😊
    It's really interesting how man gods and demons people have worshipped and feared throughout history.
    I particularly like your references to modern day story telling, e.g. the fanfiction analogy for The Books of Enoch. It makes your content very accessible for (modern day) viewers 👍
    There's so much re-use of older myths, and apparently Lilith is one such theme which got multiple reboots, e.g. to fill a plot hole 14:00 😊

    • @Jotari
      @Jotari Рік тому +2

      But surely, of all the gods the one I was born into by happenstance must be the one true god, right?

  • @salvestrom
    @salvestrom Рік тому +3

    Thanks for this: it helped fill in several blanks I've had.

  • @ruboswald1
    @ruboswald1 5 місяців тому

    hello, I love your channel I have learned so many things. I was brought up as a baptist, and had many questions. I dedicated much of my time in academia on learning the history of religion and religious text,. Thank You you really make things easy to understand and I always learn something new.
    Just wanted to thank you for all you do.

  • @matthewbateman6487
    @matthewbateman6487 Рік тому +45

    I've also heard the word Lullaby comes from the Hebrew, "Lilith-abi" (Goodbye Lilith, or be gone, Lilith).... makes sense with the 'stillborn, infant mortality' connection. A kind of 'incantation/chant' for mothers..

    • @SewardWriter
      @SewardWriter Рік тому +3

      But abi means dad or daddy.

    • @mattchen6137
      @mattchen6137 Рік тому +1

      Thats a cool view

    • @jared_bowden
      @jared_bowden Рік тому +13

      I think it's more likely that the phrase comes from Middle English "lulley by" which means "a song to lull away" due to the fact that that Middle English writings literally use "Lulley by" to mean lullaby. Also, I feel like 'abi' would mean something like 'father' not goodbye: compare to modern Hebrew 'avi' or Aramaic 'abba' (where we get the word abbot).

    • @SewardWriter
      @SewardWriter Рік тому +7

      @@jared_bowden Yup, "abi" means dad or daddy. Hebrew doesn't even have a "goodbye". We use shalom as a greeting and a farewell. Lullaby absolutely comes from Middle English.

    • @matthewbateman6487
      @matthewbateman6487 Рік тому

      @@SewardWriter or is that Abba

  • @shrimpbisque
    @shrimpbisque Рік тому +15

    Thanks for posting such a fascinating and informative video! I'm writing a fantasy story that takes place in a universe wherein Adam and Lilith are the biblical first elves, and the mythology I'm writing for it combines the equality aspects of the "Adam's first wife" story with the "independent woman" aspect from modern interpretations. (The protagonist of the story is also named Lilith, after the first elf woman.) This was some great background info for me to consider for my worldbuilding!

  • @nonodlamini
    @nonodlamini Рік тому +4

    I’m so glad I’ve found this channel

  • @rosemarywessel1294
    @rosemarywessel1294 10 місяців тому +2

    Could the name Lilith becoming popular be out of inspiration from the character on "Frasier"? My sister named her kid Niles after her husband.