Can MS-DOS 6.22 (1994) Replace Windows 7?

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  • Опубліковано 5 чер 2013
  • DOS may have been revolutionary for it's time but can you use it to do stuff we do today on windows 7 (or windows 8)? Well then let's try it out!
    Video Sections:
    1:15 Navigation/File System Commands
    3:30 Working with Basic Text Files
    10:20 DOS Gaming
    23:25 Advanced Word Processing
    25:50 Installing and Using a Mouse Within DOS
    28:25 Making Graphics (DPaint) With DOS
    33:55 Viewing Images on DOS
    35:10 Play Sound with DOS (Programming Sound)
    41:20 NES Emulator on DOS (Metroid)
    44:10 Installing and Using the GEM GUI for DOS
    52:25 Full DOS Review
    Actual List of Tasks:
    1. Create a text file to store the list of tasks.
    2. Display the contents of a text file without using edit
    3. Copy and Paste text
    4. Access files on a floppy disk
    5. Play 3 Dos games that satisfy my gaming hunger
    6. Use a more advanced text editing program
    7. Get the mouse working
    8. Make any type of image file using a Dos painting or graphics program
    9. View an image file on DOS
    10. Play sound/music with dos
    11. Test out a game console emulator and play a game
    12. Install a graphical interface for DOS
    13. Install a gem application
    All Credit goes to Cat333Pokemon for making the portal 2 tune in DOS.
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  • @OsFirstTimer
    @OsFirstTimer  6 років тому +255

    You know what I hate about UA-cam? The fact that it doesn't let me edit out this cringy intro!

    • @Isaacfess
      @Isaacfess 6 років тому +8

      *Lol, Yep, If only you could edit it.* *I still love this video though,*

    • @mrviciouskitty4604
      @mrviciouskitty4604 6 років тому +9

      Lol it is funny

    • @jgsh8062
      @jgsh8062 6 років тому +16

      When I was like 8 and I clicked the video the intro scared me

    • @filippiskor
      @filippiskor 5 років тому +9

      Hello. I didn't know you are watching your old videos.

    • @geremachek
      @geremachek 5 років тому +4

      Well it is 5 years old, but the quality is still pretty good!

  • @Orpheusftw
    @Orpheusftw 9 років тому +269

    Who are all these DOS snobs piling on the dislikes? Dude's just tryin' to learn about an OS before his time. I don't see anything wrong with that.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 9 років тому +1

      ***** Hope that the onboard sound has SB16 emulation. The virtual systems in VMWare Workstation (which he uses) does that at least. Proper sound output is one of the hardest things to do, (due to many standards and manual driver setup) and depending on which time period is aimed at graphics can be pretty hard, too.

    • @morgisugly
      @morgisugly 8 років тому +16

      I'm 11 and I use DOS all the time, there are some amazing games on there.

    • @niallasher2322
      @niallasher2322 8 років тому +2

      +Keith Weimer (KillerQ13) using dos when I was 5 or 6, DOS is amazing.

    • @emuhill
      @emuhill 8 років тому +4

      +Orpheusftw It is impressive to see someone that young to try out an OS I grew up with.

    • @jgcooper
      @jgcooper 8 років тому +1

      +pokeforce what do you use?

  • @therealmicksa
    @therealmicksa 8 років тому +60

    You're not getting the full DOS experience unless you're using a big fat beige computer, with a glary flickery CRT monitor that bathes you in nice warm gamma rays. And a big fat clickety-clackety keyboard that makes you work out your finger muscles. And a REAL, slow, talkative floppy drive, or two.
    God, I miss the old days.

    • @christopherscharf8185
      @christopherscharf8185 7 років тому +1

      Rahaan the Barbarian : mostly because you forgot the worst parts

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 6 років тому

      floppy disks full of porn too.

    • @Minecrafter6818
      @Minecrafter6818 5 років тому

      Pasta Sarmonella E-Specialé OMG Ahahhaahhahahahaha

    • @SUPABROS
      @SUPABROS 5 років тому

      He has a rloppy frive

    • @stink-man
      @stink-man 3 роки тому

      @@SUPABROS floppy drive*

  • @prehistoricgamer9503
    @prehistoricgamer9503 7 років тому +55

    The fast racing game was due to your CPU being too fast. Back in the day, people coded based on hardware clock speed.

    • @hackn001
      @hackn001 3 роки тому +2

      So true, i remember when i tried to run some of these games on a newer PC and they were fast as hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @jacketylon
      @jacketylon 3 роки тому +4

      And that's how the turbo button was born

    • @the_player_2
      @the_player_2 Рік тому

      probably because the only way (i think) to do a delay is to get how many clock cycles it will take for instrunctions like beq, inc, and nop, because those take time to loop

    • @the_player_2
      @the_player_2 Рік тому

      and how long a clock cycle takes on your cpu

  • @Skrapeg0at
    @Skrapeg0at 8 років тому +46

    Philip changed his shirt three times in this video.

    • @stink-man
      @stink-man 3 роки тому +1

      He was sweating too much from him going insane

    • @DogeCubing
      @DogeCubing 2 роки тому

      @@stink-man XD

  • @sussexyakuzaclan7944
    @sussexyakuzaclan7944 8 років тому +105

    how to use dos
    d:
    cd games
    cd doom
    doom

    • @remaerdllaftsurttnod9619
      @remaerdllaftsurttnod9619 8 років тому +1

      Sussex Yakuza Clan lel

    • @1701Mackan
      @1701Mackan 8 років тому +3

      +Sussex Yakuza Clan
      d:\dames\doom\doom
      or
      d:
      cd games\doom
      doom
      or
      just make .bat file
      if in c:
      if path are dos
      just type edit doom.bat
      if install doom in d:
      then wright in
      d:\games\doom\doom.exe
      c:
      then save

    • @volo870
      @volo870 8 років тому +7

      +Mackan Götgård
      format c:

    • @1701Mackan
      @1701Mackan 8 років тому

      format c nope

    • @markusTegelane
      @markusTegelane 6 років тому +2

      You can also edit AUTOEXEC.BAT and insert those commands so you don't have to enter anything when computer starts up

  • @Kelton2
    @Kelton2 9 років тому +35

    Does anyone else feel that typing "md apple" is easier than opening up Windows Explorer, right clicking, clicking new folder, then typing in apple?

    • @whosonedphone
      @whosonedphone 9 років тому +2

      I most certainly agree.

    • @TheLappin
      @TheLappin 9 років тому +9

      Faster? Sure!
      Easier? Not if you have to memorize all the commands for everything you want to do and have very primitive visuals to guide you. It would certainly take some time to get used to it before you could be efficient with it.

    • @philipgr100
      @philipgr100 9 років тому +2

      In certain instances the command line can be faster however I agree with 'The Lappin' that you have to memorize all the commands along with all their parameters which can be a daunting task. I myself prefer using a GUI. Somethings you cannot do in a GUI like pinging a server to see what response you get. This situation also applies to Linux. There are a large number of Linux users who only use the CLI for all their work. In Linux and Windows I personally prefer using the GUI. I do use the CLI in Linux and Windows when the situation warrants it. Most of the stuff you do in the CLI you can do in the GUI. I guess it is a matter of preference.

    • @Kelton2
      @Kelton2 9 років тому +1

      I actually use Windows and don't know much about the cmd (I know basic navigation, not much else), I just noticed that.

    • @martinkuliza
      @martinkuliza 9 років тому +2

      hell yes, but then again, I Love the CLI, some don't , each to his own i guess

  • @SaisBlade
    @SaisBlade 9 років тому +9

    To all the people hating on this guy for not knowing enough about doom / DOS or generally being tech-savvy about technology in that era, a little piece of advice- stop.
    The fact that you judge his worth and your self-worth by association by how much he knows about computers in an era before he was born is pathatic.
    I for one applaud his curiousity, even if the title is a bit cheap.
    Seriously though, stop making such a big deal out of everything.
    So you played Doom decades ago and know how to navigate DOS. Big fucking whoop, nobody cares.

    • @briana7475
      @briana7475 6 років тому

      I agree. People don't understand that not everyone is perfect. NOBODY IS PERFECT! Like if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all

    • @DerpProductionz
      @DerpProductionz 5 років тому

      This

  • @GamingHistorySource
    @GamingHistorySource 8 років тому +136

    the processor in your PC is too fast for that racing game. lol

    • @ptrcnull
      @ptrcnull 8 років тому +1

      +Gaming History Source it was correct, look at the timer

    • @ptrcnull
      @ptrcnull 8 років тому +1

      +Gaming History Source it was correct, look at the timer

    • @ptrcnull
      @ptrcnull 8 років тому +1

      ***** i know about the turbo button, but it was emulator, cpu and everything was controled.

    • @rahulsawant_pikachu
      @rahulsawant_pikachu 8 років тому

      +Sagar Kathuria Hi :)

    • @LiEnby
      @LiEnby 8 років тому

      acturally yeah that likely is the problem

  • @NortelGeek
    @NortelGeek 9 років тому +4

    It's awesome that you're learning all of the guff we had to learn back in the day. Thanks for the videos! Cheers!

  • @neleabels
    @neleabels 9 років тому +6

    it's "only" a 2.8MB Floppydisk.
    This kid is cute! :D And he doesn't even realize who insanely fast his system is for a DOS-system... :O

  • @Rings0fSaturn2k
    @Rings0fSaturn2k 8 років тому +16

    "From the year 9094"
    U FOCKIN WOT M8?!

    • @XelaPilled
      @XelaPilled 8 років тому +1

      His accent makes it sound like that, he means 1994 xD

    • @Rings0fSaturn2k
      @Rings0fSaturn2k 8 років тому

      +Psycho Dusk Oh. xD

    • @ben.b2595
      @ben.b2595 7 років тому

      in 9094 there will be 128k at 1.6million fps on lowest settings.

    • @theterralitepodcast8723
      @theterralitepodcast8723 6 років тому

      DC Gaming and a gtx90000000A56Q

  • @ATCRyderX
    @ATCRyderX 10 років тому +36

    Where did you acquire all the old DOS stuff? Like GEM.

    • @Echoesoftimelover
      @Echoesoftimelover 10 років тому

      Piratebay or eBay

    • @OsFirstTimer
      @OsFirstTimer  10 років тому +10

      There are many archival sites that provide free legal downloads for old software

    • @ATCRyderX
      @ATCRyderX 10 років тому +2

      OSFirstTimer such as? =]

    • @Stenstorp
      @Stenstorp 10 років тому +4

      OSFirstTimer like...? I would REALLY like to know what these sites are! I am a huge fan of retro tech.

    • @SimonSideburns
      @SimonSideburns 10 років тому +1

      StenstorpMC Try VetusWare.

  • @klopfenpopmusic1126
    @klopfenpopmusic1126 9 років тому +6

    Dude, your sincerity is so engaging. This is the most charming channel ever. :3

  • @sillyslayer_
    @sillyslayer_ 8 років тому +9

    16:46
    "IM ON A TIRE HUAA HUAAAA HUAA HUAAAA "
    OSFirsttimer
    6/6/13

  • @1983englishman
    @1983englishman 9 років тому +6

    I grew up using DOS and still remember how to use it inside out. I was screaming "TYPE" during that video. In fact when Windows 95 came out it took me a long time to get into the habit of dragging and dropping files - I used to open CMD and type the commands!

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 6 років тому

      Well, you should try out linux for this purpose.

  • @RojoSostenido
    @RojoSostenido 10 років тому +3

    Watched the video to the end and really liked it, brought me so many memories. I was kind of your age when I started programming in qbasic, and you're doing it too, i found it awesome. I never heard of GEM back at that time, it looks way more complete than Windows 3.1, which was the first I used, maybe it's lacking compatibility, standarization and networking, but does still look more professional. Yes, most of those games have been ported/remade for tablets and smartphones, which is great, they didn't exist back then and would have obviously become more popular than playing in a computer.

  • @nobel11
    @nobel11 10 років тому +9

    I was with you up until you started playing Doom...

  • @JokoarK
    @JokoarK 8 років тому

    I loved this video! It sure took me back, and the kid is funny. I had a great time watching!

  • @xelxebar
    @xelxebar 6 років тому

    This was awesome! Love these videos.

  • @vwestlife
    @vwestlife 10 років тому +20

    Make that "...for *its* time"... no apostrophe. :-)

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife 10 років тому +5

      ***** Punctuation, not grammar. :-P

    • @yugioh1581
      @yugioh1581 10 років тому

      vwestlife Punctuation is in grammar. Spelling isn't. I've all knowledge of totally everything... Maybe not.

    • @jeskasaska
      @jeskasaska 10 років тому

      Kat Clan
      Me too! OsFirstTimer and VWestlife are my favourite youtube channels...

    • @bloodrace
      @bloodrace 10 років тому

      Your Also Supporting OSFirstTimer Good! I'm A Subcriber Of Youres

    • @bingusmybeloved413
      @bingusmybeloved413 6 років тому

      VWestlife *FuCk YoU*

  • @KiboDesuYo
    @KiboDesuYo 9 років тому +30

    I'm guessing all the dislikes are from the stupid title.

    • @KiboDesuYo
      @KiboDesuYo 9 років тому +32

      Nvm, i watched the video, This guy is fucked up.

    • @ongansan
      @ongansan 9 років тому +2

      ***** That's definetly the reason. Fucking brat.

    • @freecrac
      @freecrac 9 років тому

      The title is more a provocating and effect style art like one, for shocking and blow up our fossilized minds. Isn´t it?

    • @Contagejuice
      @Contagejuice 9 років тому +5

      The intro gave me ebola.

    • @XaneMyers
      @XaneMyers 9 років тому

      ***** That' applies to me and I still think Dom's a good game and today's games that like iron sights and regenerating health just aaren't thesame.

  • @bruhsoundeffect2394
    @bruhsoundeffect2394 4 роки тому +1

    That cool intro really cracked me up. I really liked it lol, I’m hoping I’m not the only weird 1 here

  • @BioHazard3600
    @BioHazard3600 Рік тому +1

    I used to watch this vid and your vids back in 2015 and I'm kinda getting nostalgic about it

  • @readyrepairs
    @readyrepairs 10 років тому +17

    THE PC IS TOO FAST FOR THE CAR GAME.

  • @GianmarioScotti
    @GianmarioScotti 8 років тому +11

    8:47
    "I'm not a book person, I'm beyond that era!"

    • @Hammid
      @Hammid 8 років тому +5

      Kill me.

    • @RealistikDash
      @RealistikDash 8 років тому

      *8:48

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 8 років тому +4

      +Gianmario Scotti (Mario) "I'm not a book person, I'm beyond that era!" as long as your device is charged up.

    • @puffolotti
      @puffolotti 8 років тому

      where am i? What did Scotty drink this time?

    • @puffolotti
      @puffolotti 8 років тому

      *****
      "Luddites" i'm sure you meant "luddites fuck"
      There is this joke:
      Wheeljack goes to optimus prime and says: "i finished to build the 5 new guys, now you can give them life."
      Quickly the autobots organize a welcome ceremony, so Optimus stays before the 5 dinobots, all other autobots circle around, wispering how big, imposing, menacing and overall cool the dinobots look, so Optimus gives them life, the eyes of the dinobots starts to glow, and Optimus says: "Welcome in autobots ranks, my friends"
      One of the dinobots points himself with a thumb and says: "Now comes what somewhere else is called a public declaration.
      This is a public declaration.
      Me.Grimlock, speaking about me.Grimlock declares that me.Grimlock is ready to work. End of declaration."
      Optimus says to him: "I'm glad to hear that my friend, but could you excuse me a moment?"
      he goes to wheeljack and whisper in his ears: "Why does he speak like that?"
      Wheeljack shrugs and whispers back: "I did some research and learnded that VBA is good for dinosaurs."

  • @derpmansderpyskin
    @derpmansderpyskin 9 років тому +22

    How to make dos doEVERYTHING windows can:
    Install windows 1.0
    Upgrade to 3.0
    Upgrade 3.0 to 95
    Upgrade 95 to 98
    Upgrade 98 to XP
    And there we go!
    Optional:
    Upgrade XP to Vista
    Upgrade Vista to 7
    -However, do NOT upgrade from windows 7 to 8, if you feel the need to have the latest version, wait a week or two, for 10 to be released.

    • @derpmansderpyskin
      @derpmansderpyskin 8 років тому +6

      DarkCorruption Unless you're running dos on a modern day desktop...

    • @Lofote
      @Lofote 8 років тому

      DerpMans Derpyskin Those old Windows will probably not work with modern hardware.

    • @derpmansderpyskin
      @derpmansderpyskin 8 років тому

      Lofote well dos did though

    • @Lofote
      @Lofote 8 років тому

      Isn't that a virtual DOS box in the video? Because DOS will probably have Problems with those large hard drives from today ;)...
      So, yeah, with virtualization you will probably get the extreme upgrading to work ;)

    • @derpmansderpyskin
      @derpmansderpyskin 8 років тому

      ***** well then change the CPU, and add more ram.

  • @smmoom1212
    @smmoom1212 8 років тому

    wow this was an honestly enlightening video to me. i never realized how advanced computers were back in the 80s and 90s. only ever really saw some cmd stuff, never any of this pre-win3.1 gui stuff in specific programs. super cool :D

  • @BlackburnBigdragon
    @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому +31

    Dos 6 is still one of my favorite OS's. I had a laugh watching this youngster fumbling through it obviously without having prior knowledge and not having read the full manual. One of his big problems that was evident with the games was that he only played three, one of which required play on a slower PC in order to be playable, and then declared dos games to not be fun. I had a HUGE problem with that. All he would have to do is grab a copy of DosBox and crank a modern system down to the old speeds and play some of those old, beautiful, gems rather than some guy's Mario game, a cracked racing game that doesn't work, and a minute of Doom. Dos will never replace what we have now, but it's still a great OS and it had some amazing software and games made for it. It was a golden age for games and software back then.

    • @boliussa
      @boliussa 8 років тому +1

      +BlackburnBigdragon Also DOS had software that could slow it down for old games

    • @BlackburnBigdragon
      @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому

      Yep. I've tried so many times to get a DOS 6 to run on a virtual machine on my PC for fun and even following tutorials online, my computer just refuses to install it and run it, sadly. I'd love to get it up and running again for nostalgia sake, but I don't think I'm going to be able to do it without an old PC.

    • @boliussa
      @boliussa 8 років тому +1

      BlackburnBigdragon IF you are still willing to try, then make a post on superuser.com with an attempt and where it isn't working and i'm sure you'll be up and running with it. And let me know where you link is. If you really can't get DOS 6 running i'd eat my hat. I'd be interested to know what error you get when you start virtualbox and load up a boot disk image. (And if you need help in getting to that stage then just ask)

    • @BlackburnBigdragon
      @BlackburnBigdragon 8 років тому +1

      boliussa I was trying to run it using Windows Virtual PC, not VirtualBox. I always found VirtualBox confusing.

    • @boliussa
      @boliussa 8 років тому +1

      +BlackburnBigdragon well, you can always ask if you are confused or stuck anywhere when attempting it in virtualbox.

  • @EmporioZuagroast
    @EmporioZuagroast 9 років тому +17

    you haven't even tried to install a CD-ROM drive. getting a mouse or sound card to work is child's play compared to that.
    i hope you now have an idea why some older PC users tend to be a bit arrogant towards younger users. when we were your age, we had to live with this every day and we had no internet to babysit us through our problems.
    the least fun was having to create separate himem.sys and EMS configurations in your config.sys and autoexec.bat files because some games needed himem.sys and others EMS and there was never one configuration that ALL of the games were able to run on...

    • @stealthsnipe1095
      @stealthsnipe1095 9 років тому

      And fun was also
      VIDEO
      GAMES

    • @philipgr100
      @philipgr100 9 років тому +1

      The good old days when computing was fun. The great sense of achievement when you finally got something to work. Writing your own programs in WWBasic and QBasic was very rewarding.

    • @philipgr100
      @philipgr100 9 років тому

      Philip Gray
      Oops I meant GWBasic.

    • @warti0k0ne41
      @warti0k0ne41 9 років тому

      Thats why there were choice & if errorlevel commands :D ... not until DOS 6 though wich were my first contact to PC-world.

    • @Synthematix
      @Synthematix 9 років тому +1

      good old MSCDEX

  • @ElevatingEurope
    @ElevatingEurope 7 років тому

    I was trying some of this out in Command Prompt on my computer and it worked!

  • @misterspitfire6564
    @misterspitfire6564 8 років тому

    As an old school guy who started with Dos 3.2, I applaud your efforts, and enjoyed your video. It was only a little way down the line when we could type 'Win' at bootup to start the magic! Thanks for an entertaining video - will sub and watch more! :)

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson 8 років тому +14

    At one time, I was known as a DOS GURU! So thanks for a trip back in time. When DOS 6.2.2 was king, Windows 3.1 was it's companion so one could view photos, play tunes and so forth. There were audio files that could well be played in DOS, and if I recall there were some nice audio programs also available. So try it again but install it's companion Windows 3.1 or even 3.1.1 if you want to get your network up and running.

    • @Xiaopang3333
      @Xiaopang3333 8 років тому +3

      +Jerry Ericsson Not necessary. There were some really awesome picture viewers and even MP3-players for DOS available. I even ripped Audio-CDs and encoded them to MP3s in DOS. And thanks to Novell, you could also network in pure DOS. While Windows 3.1 was nice for its time, it wasn't necessary for the most basic things. Nowadays, I would never go below DOS 7 in conjunction with Windows 98 since it offers the best of both worlds, especially if the system is supposed to use the Internet.

  • @bradye21playsIndieHorror
    @bradye21playsIndieHorror 9 років тому +3

    I think the video should have been titled like "can the average Joe use dos" because from that perspective it was pretty good. I haven't used dos except for basic tasks but I may try some games after seeing this.

  • @reallybrokenalways
    @reallybrokenalways 9 років тому +1

    This video makes me feel old.
    I remember when everything you did or wanted to do was done in DOS. Windows was just a fancy GUI overlay for using word processors.
    Nice to see someone reading a book on this instead of Net trawling.

  • @arisaffandy
    @arisaffandy 9 років тому

    I use DOS a lot long time ago to backup my AutoCAD dwg files and play some DOS games at lunch break. These bring back memories. Thank u for this video. Still using it now within Windows 7 to do some network config because some of the command give faster result. U just have to memorize it. Multiple DOS command can be combine into 1 batch file.

  • @Hammid
    @Hammid 8 років тому +131

    This is merely a KID REACTS TO DOS video.

    • @DoggieLicc
      @DoggieLicc 8 років тому +3

      no

    • @mstcrow5429
      @mstcrow5429 8 років тому +14

      +Hammid Bollocks. He knows about it and is exploring it. Do we really want people forgetting DOS?
      Also, this may help him to learn UNIX-like shells and PowerShell.

    • @LiEnby
      @LiEnby 8 років тому +2

      +mstcrow5429 forgetting dos is bad. i still to this day find dos very helpful on my computer for various things though in an emulator most of the time

    • @phazonjunky1818
      @phazonjunky1818 8 років тому +1

      +mstcrow5429 .no but the bitch is acting like "Google is better than Book".
      HOLY FUCKING SHIT THATS SO ORIGINAL AND TRUE. Seriously he gave up on reading a fucking book and went to internet.

    • @uscrktz
      @uscrktz 8 років тому

      you're right, but still entertaining though

  • @2xsaiko
    @2xsaiko 9 років тому +6

    What is with the hyper fast diskette drive at 10:40
    normally it would take ages to read files

    • @xaenon
      @xaenon 9 років тому +1

      ***** Yes, 2.88 mb floppy diskettes DID exist for a short time, but never really caught on. Your computer BIOS had to support the format (and most didn't) AND you had to have the specific ED (Extended Density) drive and ED diskette to reach that capacity. The ED drives could read the older 720kb and 1.44mb floppies, but could not write to them, IIRC (somebody correct me if I'm wrong; I might be confusing this with the old 3M/Imation LS120 'SuperFloppy'). The 2.88mb format was pricey (both the drives and the disks) and had limited support and practical use, especially in light of the introduction of the Iomega Zip format, which was even more expensive but had vastly superior storage capacity.

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 9 років тому

      xaenon That was the thing I was wondering about. "how the hell did he get 2.88 MB floppies, they weren't that common back then and geht some working today must be a pain in the a**"
      Then I saw him handling with a 5 1/4'' floppy and than it was clear: He just uses the emulation of his VM software.
      And also, all the .COM files asked for are usually on the DOS installation floppies (there are 3 of them).
      (If anyone wonders: I'm going th the same torment to build a vintage system for the old classics. Running in emulation is fine, but not the real thing.)

  • @Druman19
    @Druman19 7 років тому

    You're a smart kid. I gotta tip my hat to you for even attempting Dos in this day and age. Well done, you'll go far!

  • @gabrielbartash3097
    @gabrielbartash3097 8 років тому

    Nice video. Trip down memory lane for me.

  • @usakitsukino5844
    @usakitsukino5844 10 років тому +22

    DOS was awesome..., until i changed to Linux, it does what MS-DOesn't...

    • @CrAzYpOtHeAd420time
      @CrAzYpOtHeAd420time 10 років тому +1

      *****
      Phil Colins?
      :3

    • @eternal2794
      @eternal2794 6 років тому

      Unix made the inspiration for Mac OS BSD and more while DOS brought us to windows

    • @DerpProductionz
      @DerpProductionz 5 років тому +1

      _Genesis Does, What Nintendon't_ xD

  • @ImTheDaveman
    @ImTheDaveman 9 років тому +5

    I loved DOOM 95 and Wolfenstein and miss those games. Yeah they are hokey by todays standars BUT they were state of the art at one time and I get all nostalgic when I think of them. I used to create DOOM and Wolfenstein style games back in the day and it was fun! If you were around at the time you would be addicted to them. The games you love today will be what our 80's and 90's games are to you now., in 15 to 20 years :-)

    • @thetinpin
      @thetinpin 9 років тому

      ***** I cannot +1 that comment enough.

    • @thetinpin
      @thetinpin 9 років тому

      Damn right! I have it on my tablet as well, but I use the on-screen controls (which really aren't that bad if we're both talking about the same Beloko source port) or I use a cable that allows use of the USB receiver for my Logitech F710.

  • @camelCased
    @camelCased 8 років тому

    Thanks for the video, you definitely have talent for creating exciting and quality videos.
    You should have tried Descent and Terminal Velocity - I found them exciting at years back then. And music was pretty good in those games. But yeah, getting full sound support on DOS was tricky - you needed right drivers and know correct port numbers and card emulation type (usually most cards were Sound Blaster compatible) and messing with config and autoexec files. But once you got the settings right, most games worked just fine.

  • @wizdude
    @wizdude 8 років тому

    i really enjoyed watching your video. it was good to see someone younger empowering an early operating system.
    it was interesting to see GEM again, however by 1994 we had already seen multiple releases of Microsoft Windows. Windows 3.0 came out in 1990 and Windows 3.1 came out in 1992. Both of these releases were installed as applications on top of DOS in exactly the same way GEM runs.
    as a DOS user after 1990, we would all have Windows 3.0 installed. This came with all the basic accessory applications you would expect (like notepad and write). Microsoft Office version 4.x was also available - this gave you a full office suite on Windows 3.
    thanks for sharing your review and thoughts :-)

  • @kelli217
    @kelli217 7 років тому +5

    Here are some interesting things to know about if you're interested in using DOS as a serious environment, even if just in emulation:
    MPXPLAY is a program that plays MP3 files (and WAV and OGG and several others), but you have to know information about your emulated sound card. If you are using DOSEMU, you can see this information in the configuration file. There must be some sort of emulated sound card with support for digital output active in the emulation configuration in order to use MPXplay.
    PictView will do better at showing image files if you know more about what kind of graphics card you are emulating, so that it knows how many colors it can display and at what resolution. Again, for DOSEMU users this information will be in the configuration file. VGA is considered the lowest common denominator, and even though it only supports 16 colors at 640×480, it also has a 256-color mode at 320×200 resolution, and supports EGA and CGA graphics modes for those programs written before VGA was developed.
    Microsoft actually has allowed Word 5.5 for DOS to be made available for free download. It has the centering and bold and italic and underline features you want, but when it is running in text mode, it cannot show the text effects on screen; you have to go into graphical print preview, or use a graphic mode for the screen display, to see them. Otherwise, the effects are shown by using different colors of text.
    Believe it or not, there is a web browser for DOS. Two, in fact. Lynx is a well-known Linux text-mode browser that has a DOS version. There is also a graphical browser called Arachne (supposedly pronounced uh-ruk-neh). But any type of internet connection, whether used with Lynx or Arachne, requires a network card to be active in the emulation configuration and an appropriate driver to be loaded.
    Other tips: You can get more text onscreen in DOS by using the command 'mode con lines=50' (again, assuming you have at least VGA graphics). This will affect other DOS applications like Edit and QBasic but not programs that have their own preference settings, like Word 5.5.

    • @kelli217
      @kelli217 7 років тому

      Adis make sense more.

    • @OMA2k
      @OMA2k 7 років тому

      Your comment is really nice and informative, but I don't think he's really interested in using DOS at all, other than to make a funny video about it.

  • @ThePixelPolygon
    @ThePixelPolygon 7 років тому +13

    Crazy Cars 2 requires a 386 or it will run WAY too fast

    • @ThePixelPolygon
      @ThePixelPolygon 7 років тому +1

      Adis - Ad He used a VMware virtual machine. Something like DOSBOX will have properly emulated the game. Also, the turbo button slows down the CPU to 4.77 MHz.

    • @nothingclick2786
      @nothingclick2786 3 роки тому

      Didn’t faster computers back in the mid 80’s to late 90’s come with a turbo button to slow the clock speed?

  • @ryanware6044
    @ryanware6044 7 років тому

    Best video by far Phillip!

  • @mxarturo
    @mxarturo 7 років тому

    you are great i have not used DOS in decades, greetings from México, i really love this video, by the way in México the DOS could be in spanish but the command were exactly like the english version.

  • @DLZeon
    @DLZeon 10 років тому +4

    Many old DOS games are really great it's just that many people that didn't grow up in that time or actually had the chance to truly play them won't understand how fun they can be. I still love some of the old DOS games and it's sad that many of the newer OS won't run MS-DOS games. Games back then DOS, PS, SEGA, N64, NES, etc I think are the best for many reasons. You had to actually think on how to get past levels, you had to learn the controls or special moves. Today you just need to look it up online. I feel that today the gaming community is really just holding players hand too much. Giving you the move sets. Telling you exactly where to go and how to get there.

  • @1300l
    @1300l 10 років тому +7

    My first computer OS was DOS (not 6.22, even tho i remember when 6.22 came, was a big deal).
    Still own that PC actualy :P

  • @belandino
    @belandino 8 років тому

    That was the OS I was using when I was a kid like you. But I still use today, sometimes, thanks to the DosBox emulator.
    Doom was the first game I had that felt so real. And it still does, today.

  • @keborgan
    @keborgan 7 років тому

    So much fun watching youngling battle ancient OS which was regular thing at the time :D Thumbs up!

  • @VOmaker
    @VOmaker 7 років тому +11

    I got a real kick out of watching DOS drive you crazy. Having survived DOS I thought I would offer you some pointers. For example, playing .wav or .mp3 files. Even with Windows, Windows itself does not play the file, Windows Media Player (or another audio player app) does. So you would need to find a DOS equivalent. I can't think of any at the moment. Most were distributed with the sound cards of the day, since sound wasn't build onto the motherboard as it is today.
    Also, in the drawing program you were using, many of the resolution selections were hardware specific, eg. Tandy. These certainly won't work for you on a modern computer. But sticking to the generics like VGA, EGA and whatever resolutions might still work as you saw, having found one.
    Also, it's not totally fair to try to compare a text-based OS with a graphical OS. Also, to become frustrated with DOS while producing the video is unfair to both the OS and yourself. You have to remember, DOS had a moderate learning curve and was not at all intuitive. But then, neither is Linux or any other version of Unix today and they have add-on GUIs as well, like adding GEM to DOS.
    Your mouse driver: it needs to be added to your config files in order to be loaded with DOS at each startup/reboot.
    There was a lot of proprietary hardware back in the day as well. That's why there are so many drivers for particular hardware and hardware versions. You would always have to select a generic driver and hope for the best if running DOS on a modern computer.
    You say that the old word processing programs were not very good, but it appears you didn't really allow yourself enough time to learn them. And you felt the games were not exciting enough and the graphics poor. If you are going to do this type of video (and I did find it fun and entertaining) you must be able to lower your expectations from the start. You have to be able to allow yourself the opportunity to go back in time and accept things as they come; After all, those graphics and sounds and word processing features were state-of-the-art in their day. Don't try to make them fit with their modern counterparts.
    If you are keeping a DOS machine (or boot partition) up, I'd hope you would take the time to learn the command line OS and some of the apps. Then, after a few months of learning, do another review. It would be interesting to hear if there was any difference in your opinions.
    What are the specs of the machine you were running this on? One thing I found most impressive, was the speed of most of the operations. DOS could be terribly slow at times, even as Windows is today.
    Thanks for an interesting trip down memory lane. If you do decide to do a follow-up, let us know.

    • @vicr123
      @vicr123 7 років тому

      Wow, all that info is pretty interesting. :)
      Regarding his complaints about graphics, he runs another channel called AstralPhaser where he does put aside his knowledge about the current graphics. :)

    • @vicr123
      @vicr123 7 років тому

      ***** Stop trying to find me! :P

  • @superdudeman666
    @superdudeman666 9 років тому +4

    This was way more hilarious to watch than a FineBros episode of "Kids React To..."

    • @Delta225
      @Delta225 9 років тому

      i have to agree. i love the part where he says he wants to kill dos right now. lol it can be frustrating if you are trying out for the first time.

  • @smmoom1212
    @smmoom1212 8 років тому

    i never new dos was the inspiration for alot of the commands and functionality in computercraft... very neat!

  • @MrBeiragua
    @MrBeiragua 8 років тому +1

    UA-cam randomly threw me here. Great Video!

  • @charliepotatoes001
    @charliepotatoes001 10 років тому +4

    the command to display text files is: type.
    so you would.
    type tasklist.txt

    • @charliepotatoes001
      @charliepotatoes001 10 років тому +5

      I got a real kick out of watching the vid I started typing replies before I watch the whole thing. ha... Just started to switch over to linux (ubuntu) in Jan 2014. Terminal window under linux does much the same thing. Command lines are a little different but has great potential.

  • @DavidScheiber
    @DavidScheiber 9 років тому +5

    I think the cars were going on wacky because the game was meant to be run on a slower processor

    • @llike2668
      @llike2668 4 роки тому

      yes but he has an old computer that came with MS-DOS

  • @FarTrek
    @FarTrek 8 років тому

    that music was pretty epic, especially that random one

  • @sobolanul96
    @sobolanul96 9 років тому +1

    I remember when I was a kid and win95 crashed. I was stuck in ms-dos for more than a year. I used edit to open/write documents, and most of the commands to get around. I got really fluent in it. I miss those days.

  • @stutavagrippa8690
    @stutavagrippa8690 3 роки тому +5

    17:30 The problem is probably that you have such a fast CPU, the game runs at whatever GHz

  • @stanstrum9920
    @stanstrum9920 7 років тому +3

    4:20 (blaze it) DOS is all caps since its an acronym for "Disk Operating System"

  • @MagnumForce51
    @MagnumForce51 8 років тому

    I was born in '87. So I learned enough about DOS that I would not be having the issues you had figuring some of this out. :P
    Although displaying text files in DOS (without using an application to do so) is something I haven't had a chance of trying. Usually what I learned of DOS came out of necessity as it was never my primary OS even though I had used computers at the time that might have worked fine using just DOS. :P
    I used to be pretty good at creating batch files. (Files with the .bat extension that automates DOS commands and such).
    I probably forgot a lot of the finer details now, but DOS is one of those things I still have a good understanding of. :D

  • @CrumpEC
    @CrumpEC 7 років тому

    I liked your video great job.

  • @edgii_irl
    @edgii_irl 7 років тому +3

    "I'm going to attempt to use DOS 6.22 from 9094" lol

  • @jturner718
    @jturner718 10 років тому +4

    And Crazy Cars 2 runs like it just did a line of cocaine because your computer is MUCH too fast to run it. Most of those old games have a speed limiter, but some, like Crazy Cars 2, do not. This is why I use DOSBox.

  • @Hello-ih4rn
    @Hello-ih4rn 7 років тому

    your introl goes good with the vid

  • @kneekoo
    @kneekoo 9 років тому

    Well, this was a lot of fun. :) A bit frustrating to watch as an experienced IT guy but after watching the whole video I must say it brought back a lot of memories and I appreciate the effort of using (even as prop) those 3.5" and 5.25" floppies.
    There are obviously more software that can achieve various goals but regarding the tasks in this video here are a few tips:
    #5. Check Wikipedia for CGA/EGA/VGA and look out for details related to numbers of colors and resolutions. Back in the 80's/90's the graphics cards were extremely rudimentary, so it made a lot of sense to ask the user about these details, especially that the graphics hardware were not as standardized as it is today so you couldn't just detect what's in your PC and run the program/game with automatic settings.
    Regarding the issues with Crazy Cars, that's normal for games and apps that used the CPU cycles for timing actions. It just makes things run crazy-fast on faster processors.
    #9. Photodex SEA was an awesome image viewer but it could even play movies (FLC, FLI and AVI) and WAV and VOC audio files. Give it a try.
    #10. Back in the MS-DOS days MP3's didn't exist. Most sounds were WAV and VOC and if you wanted music you listened to MOD, MID or XT files. "Visual Player" was amazing back then and "Fast Tracker" was also very popular. These you can simply check out in UA-cam.
    Thanks for making this video. :) Good luck!

  • @totolycool
    @totolycool 10 років тому +2

    Ikr. The GUI is just like gem. An interface to hide the nasty stuff.

  • @tempersne
    @tempersne 10 років тому +2

    In the background, we have a fire hazard.. What kind of power strip is that?

    • @7eis
      @7eis 10 років тому

      not bad at all. the weak point in power strips are usually the wires - this kind of port multiplier eliminates that.

  • @unsignedmusic
    @unsignedmusic 8 років тому

    This was fun to watch

  • @donaldlemoine3032
    @donaldlemoine3032 8 років тому

    I still use DOS 6.22. I never did learn much about it, but I did learn the basic commands to install games etc.. Love the old retro games

  • @ThePC007
    @ThePC007 10 років тому +4

    Why didn't you play Elder Scrolls: Arena? D:

  • @uppishcub1617
    @uppishcub1617 9 років тому +4

    no classic shooters have goodguys or tutorials or bad stories just shooting shooting and shooting

  • @someguy3032
    @someguy3032 9 років тому +1

    Why this video has so much dislike ?
    it is very good and useful !

  • @warti0k0ne41
    @warti0k0ne41 9 років тому

    I weren't searching DOS stuff, but old games I used to play anyhow. Nice video bring back memories from good old days.
    1st command HELP gives you list of command in DOS and pretty much any textbased OS
    2nd TYPE is the command that shows your textfile
    3nd There were lots of apps that made things easier to do. ie DOSSHELL and others "filecommanders" etc. Plus full gfx UI programs.
    4nd IIRC Mouse command did load mouse drivers so the gfx ui programs like edit did have mouse enabled after it.
    5th then there were these powertools that are usefull even today at times like output piping like TYPE name1.txt >> name2.txt
    6th DOS Extenders were rather common since the basic dos were rather narrow in functionality. Something like 4DOS by JP software were nice, with really really good documentation and stonishing scripting functionalities, plus colorcoded DIR commands, TAB picking of files/directories etc.
    7th Scripting with .bat / .btm files !!

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil 8 років тому +7

    How do you know if something is a good guy or a bad guy in Doom?
    I know how! It moves it dies! ;)

  • @Ashurion-Neonix
    @Ashurion-Neonix 4 роки тому +3

    12:17 me before learning how to strafe.

  • @idiotdingu
    @idiotdingu 4 роки тому

    The intro fits very well with Dos vids

  • @AbraxasTheSecond
    @AbraxasTheSecond 8 років тому

    How do you get DOS to be stretched to fit the screen? I also use VMWare Workstation 12 Player, and when I open my DOS virtual machine and put it in full screen mode, the resolution and size of the VM stays the same. I've looked all over the menu bar, and I can't find any view or zoom option. How do you do it?

  • @imthescatguy
    @imthescatguy 10 років тому +4

    Play dungeon keeper and you will take that "I hate dos games" back instantly.

  • @Nacalal
    @Nacalal 9 років тому +10

    *Never used DOS before*
    Even if you never used the OS for it's purposes, you should atleast know the commands
    NT is heavily based off of DOS and NT is the kernel for windows

    • @Nacalal
      @Nacalal 9 років тому

      Also, with doom
      once installed you need to run the setup in the installed DIR and manually configure your soundcard
      that and (some oldfags may hate me for this) but you should reconfigure your controls to:
      -WASD for movement
      -left/right arrow turn
      -ctrl or space shoot
      -shift for run, always on if you can

    • @Nacalal
      @Nacalal 9 років тому

      *****
      I meant the actual command line is very similar, it should be something that anyone who uses computers should have a basic knowledge of, not saying you should be able to write batch scripts but atleast know navigation and directory management, also wouldn't hurt to know how to use some basic networking commands

    • @computerscientist5953
      @computerscientist5953 9 років тому

      ***** fucking liar, NT is nothing but 'remake'

    • @cookingboy3
      @cookingboy3 9 років тому +1

      ***** NT's cmd.exe (better known as Command Prompt, for anyone else that happens to be reading) is very similar to the DOS prompt. Basic commands like CD and DIR work either exactly the same or very similarly on both. Although NT brought along the new kernel that made Windows' UI much less of a program that you could install alongside your OS and much more of an OS you install on your computer.

    • @thetinpin
      @thetinpin 9 років тому +1

      Blue Oyster Your idiocy is showing.

  • @philz_corsia
    @philz_corsia 8 років тому +1

    going from DOS to GEM is like going from purgatory to paradise :-)

  • @SanderSander88
    @SanderSander88 9 років тому

    Great video

  • @WadeoMoxley4789
    @WadeoMoxley4789 10 років тому +3

    MS-DOS Is 10 Times More Productive Than Windows 7.

    • @zentura88
      @zentura88 10 років тому

      Definitely was. People got more WORK done with it. It's all you had to do on it! LOL!

  • @biomechanism1
    @biomechanism1 10 років тому +5

    whats up with the intro, lol.

  • @zapbull7012
    @zapbull7012 7 років тому +26

    the intro was cringe af

    • @medicinesoda
      @medicinesoda 7 років тому +11

      your face is cringy af

    • @Alex-oz9eh
      @Alex-oz9eh 7 років тому

      DuckU0 wat

    • @redcrimson718
      @redcrimson718 6 років тому

      Zapbull But is was so 90's, like the OS. Rather fitting.

  • @harrisonhreszczuk8468
    @harrisonhreszczuk8468 9 років тому

    Good Work

  • @jturner718
    @jturner718 10 років тому +5

    DOS is so old and decrepit, or so you'd think. There are many utilities available that turn DOS from the OS equivalent of that weird old man who lived down the street to a veritable powerhouse. There are utilities that allow DOS to browse the web with pictures enabled, there are utilities that allow DOS to use the same filesystem as Windows 7 (or 8.x, Vista, XP, 2000, NT 4, NT 3.xx, you get it), utilities that allow DOS to utilize DVD drives (for data copying only, obviously - - DOS couldn't handle video if it wanted to on its own, though I'm sure DVD players exist for DOS, and if not, someone should totally get on porting VLC to DOS), with certain utilities, DOS can use mice and USB flash drives. There are GUIs for it (namely Windows 3.xx, but it can't handle the updates one would have to apply to DOS to make it usable in today's enviornment, so my choice would surprisingly be either DOSSHELL or Volkov Commander).
    All of this turns DOS into a reliable recovery resource for when most everything else fails (or you just like command lines for some ungodly reason).

    • @pirbird14
      @pirbird14 10 років тому

      The freedos project is still active.

    • @jturner718
      @jturner718 10 років тому

      That too!

    • @pirbird14
      @pirbird14 10 років тому

      Jacob Turner And it can handle long file names.

    • @jturner718
      @jturner718 10 років тому

      So can regular MS-DOS 6.22 with DOSLFN.

  • @CarMoves
    @CarMoves 10 років тому +9

    Racing games were hugely popular.
    The car game isn't working because it works off of the CPU clock speed.
    Obviously the CPUs work much faster now -- too fast for the game.

    • @LiEnby
      @LiEnby 5 років тому

      Just press the turbo button lol

  • @OurBossFan
    @OurBossFan 9 років тому

    I've got every dos from 3 on around somewhere, basement, maybe. Oh, and Win 3.1 too. Dos 6.22 came on 3 disks, I think (compressed). How do you get around the dos cylinder limit for the HD? Entertaining at least.

  • @spidertyler
    @spidertyler 6 років тому

    nice video also where did you get a computer that can use floppy disks?

  • @Nor9864
    @Nor9864 10 років тому +6

    I'm pretty certain that racing game didn't have a clock or any technology like that, meaning it would run way too fast on CPU's which it wasn't designed to run on.

  • @hanzkranz1319
    @hanzkranz1319 8 років тому +3

    OMG, cracked games! Can u hear the deverloppers and publishers cry?
    They can't but a new ferrari this year!

  • @mrenga7med
    @mrenga7med 9 років тому

    I like the music in 40:00
    You really return me to my old days. I was only 4 years old and can only open games by enter the command stored in my head :)

  • @limedashseven
    @limedashseven 7 років тому

    That intro music touches me deep in my ear

  • @cyberjack
    @cyberjack 10 років тому +10

    well it beats windows vista ... lol x

    • @MrSmwHacker
      @MrSmwHacker 10 років тому

      No, it doesn't.

    • @jjovereats
      @jjovereats 10 років тому +1

      MrSmwHacker Why use Windows when you can use any variant of UNIX, like GNU/Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, or MINIX? The list is still printing after 10 years.

    • @MrSmwHacker
      @MrSmwHacker 10 років тому +1

      jjovereats Uh, because I'm a PC-Gamer and don't want to be limited by the amount of software that doesn't work on Linux.
      I also have been using Windows for the last 9 years, so I'm used to it.

    • @jjovereats
      @jjovereats 10 років тому

      Fuck you then. BAI

    • @MrSmwHacker
      @MrSmwHacker 10 років тому

      :( A 12 year old insulted me over the Internetz. :*(

  • @RTarson
    @RTarson 10 років тому +3

    The games are old. But look at msdos its a black screen with text. For its time those games are great!

    • @monday6740
      @monday6740 5 років тому

      I don't remember which Windows it was, but there were versions were you could full-screen your DOS box by entering ALT-ENTER

  • @nazaxprime
    @nazaxprime 9 років тому

    "They didn't have resources to create amazing games back then"...
    You just went full derptard, never go full derptard.
    Thanks for the upload.
    ;D

  • @timshen7337
    @timshen7337 5 років тому

    Such a good video