Hey guys, here's a new episode of the old format in which an operating system is tried out. These will be fairly rare as the focus will be mostly software, but expect these OS try out videos to come out occasionally too. I hope you all enjoy it :) For those who want to see a clearer picture of the "Watercolor Taskbar" I designed as a concept in this video, you can check that out here: i.imgur.com/Wpf3EQX.png
Wow I never tied that together myself, your mom is totally right on the theme. So many aspects of the Watercolour theme would translate sooo well to Windows 10. Like, way too nicely.
Too bad they still opted to flat color even after Fluent design introducing in 2017 and Windows 11 only make them rounded color (mica title bar only for several apps)
I missed this format! This video feels just like the old OS trying videos! Super nostalgic, and I’m excited to see even more of these OS videos from you and Diana!
Looking At Beta Version Of Operating Systems, Or Anything In General Can Be So Interesting, Just To See What Never Saw The Light Of Day. It's Pretty Cool You Showcased My Second Favorite Windows Beta (First Being Windows Longhorn Build 4074).
FYI: Watercolor was not meant to replace classic. It was intented as a placeholder from the start, hence the red inactive titlebar, to test new visual style engine. Luna was the intended visual style from the start.
watercolor is a placeholder style just like ple and slate from longhorn, the reason they were made is because if a build was to be leaked the theme wouldn't be leaked before the announcement
I kinda miss these OS reviews. Lots of new Linux UIs (and updates to existing UIs) have been created since the last time you did this, so I'm hoping you'll have a look at some new DEs soon 👀
@@OsFirstTimer As for a unique DE, I'd definitely recommend the MaXX Interactive Desktop, which has many similarities with IRIX though with a few features not implemented yet, so I'd recommend installing a launcher like Rofi and adding it to the toolchest by modifying the chestrc, and due to its similarities with IRIX, it would perhaps be best for Ben to try it out as Diana has previously tried out IRIX before, though there are a few key differences. Overall, it is certainly a very unique Linux DE that is rather different than the usual Linux experience. You can't even install it using a package manager, due to proprietary components which is because of the license granted by SGI for the author of MaXX to recreate the experience of IRIX back when they were still a company. However, there are clear and easy-to-follow installation instructions on the official website.
@@OsFirstTimer GNOME 40 is pretty weird. Diana hated GNOME Shell back in GNOME 3 days so you should do a comparison. Plasma hasn't changed much honestly, but it has definitely improved. Might be nice to revisit Plasma since she thought it was literally perfect back on Arch Linux. Enlightenment, Budgie and Deepin might be the weirdest Linux DEs she hasn't tried, short of, like, starting from scratch with a tiling WM like i3/Sway/Awesome/dwm, which are very very weird but very time consuming to set up.
Also, from the world of Linux phones we've got Sailfish, Plasma Mobile, Lomiri (from Ubports), LuneOS UI and Phosh. Out of these Sailfish and Lomiri are the most abstract and trying a stable OS stack on a supported phone (I repeat, on a supported phone) would be interesting. Finally, we've got a new competitor in the world of TVs, recently introduced: Plasma Bigscreen. Compatible with Mycroft, which is a voice assistant to compete with Google Assistant, Alexa, Siri, and Cortana. Though you won't find a lot to do on Bigscreen and it's probably not very stable. But it'd be interesting to see Diana fiddle with a TV, like with Android TV or Apple TV, or even Tizen (Samsung) or LG's webOS. All support voice commands, I think (Apple TV I'm not sure, but the rest all do.)
this reminds me of when i came home from school and i saw a new video in this format. dude thank you so fricking much im happy that you decided to go back to the old format for this video thank you phil and diana.
@@Ananasij Yeah, I saw. Not as many major changes are happening... Although the actual OS build download has been leaked, so better yet Diana can probably try out the OS 😊
They are readily documented and available online which is super important for historic software preservation. I'm really glad people are dedicated to backing this stuff all up :)
@@OsFirstTimer Yeah, just would like to say that I would like to see a descruction video of this Windows verson. Would you be instred in doing a longhorn video of this same video? I know they take a long time to make, you do a amazing job!
Missed this. I'm wasn't a huge fan of the games through time and I prefer this kind of content, but keep do what you want to do and I'll stay along the whole time =D
Yeah, the operating system reviewing/destroying was what I watched for. During the game period I stopped watching. I was excited to see a new non-gaming video.
I remember I saw some guys saying that the Watercolor theme was just a burner theme, so rivals didn’t copied the look and feel of the Luna theme before XP camed out.
You guys get a lot of emails lol (gmail notifs sound) So happy to see Diana testing operating systems coming back! Would love to see Diana try the new MacOS Monterey since a lot has changed since High Sierra - Sean (subscriber since 10k ;) love your channel)
Dang it Phil! I was just about to go to bed :P But on a serious note, the lore the Whistler code name has to do with the roadmap of Windows at the time. Microsoft planned on three releases of Windows, codenamed Whistler, Longhorn, and Blackcomb. Whistler and Blackcomb would be major releases while Longhorn would be a smaller release. The idea was that to get from the Whistler to Blackcomb mountains, you would have to pass a Longhorn bar and grill. Same with Windows. To get from Whistler (XP) to Blackcomb, you would have to pass through Longhorn (Vista). But as we know, this didn’t turn out, and Longhorn was a much larger release than we expected, and Blackcomb was pretty much scrapped, atleast in the way Microsoft originally wanted it. If you wanna know a little more history on Windows codenames, this naming scheme postdates their sea-god based naming scheme, with Neptune, Oddessy, and Triton, where Neptune was for home users (there only exists one build of it online), Oddessy was for business users (no leaked builds), and Triton was just a small update to Neptune. But famously, they merged the Oddessy and Neptune teams to work on Whistler, and the rest is history. I also wanted to ask if you and Diana were planning on testing this “new generation of Windows” they plan on releasing in a few weeks, assuming they call it Windows 11. Maybe they will bring back the watercolor theme, which IMO should’ve been used as the default Windows Basic theme in XP.
It probably won’t be called Windows 11 because Microsoft stated that Windows 10 is the last version of windows. It will probably just be released as a new build of Windows 10 as they usually do.
Just did a quick google search and found this: While Microsoft once claimed that it would never move to a Windows 11. Instead, Windows 10 would continue with a regular update schedule, with major updates twice a year. However, with the Windows 10X project now shelved, it seems plans are changing. I guess Microsoft is making a windows 11 then..
@@totallyapinetree Microsoft never really claimed that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows. One engineer that doesn’t even work at Microsoft anymore said that. The PC world took that and ran with it though.
Yea, really cool history, thanks for letting me know! As for this new generation, 10X got cancelled, as far as I know, it was looking really interesting! Windows 10 has started to become a little stale, I'm hoping for a real change up in looks to move away from the flat look, I'm getting a little... over it :P
I’ve been rewatching your videos all day! I’m so glad you uploaded :) Edit - I noticed you got a new CPU, does that mean you just upgraded the CPU or the whole pc?
Haha, something new to watch :D I got a new PC from MWave in 2020, it was faulty for an entire year, so they eventually gave me a full refund and I got a new PC this year from them. The new PC is perfect :)
The watercolor theme was actually never intended to be released, it simply was a deterrent for people to look into the new theme that was being developed
I really like that watercolour theme; they should have kept it 💙 I hope that Microsoft come up with something similar for Windows 10 to polish up its flat appearance Nice video, keep up the great work 👍 Will Diana ever try out an operating system in a different language again? I thought maybe Croatian because of her heritage?
@@OsFirstTimer It could be any foreign language, it was just Croatian that popped into my head because of that connection. Or maybe let Ben try it out…
as a fun fact: the Sample Visual Test Style (and potentially Watercolor) were actually meant to be decoys, as Microsoft wanted the Luna theme to be a surprise (and prevent people from ripping the theme off). (source: devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20060111-09/?p=32693)
I have to wonder if Philip missed a bit of info someone posted that mentioned that Watercolor was intended to just be a placeholder in order to reduce the risk of the "Windows XP style" (internally called "Luna") being copied by competitors, at least from what I heard, but the visual style stuck in the Windows XP Language Bar, some MMC panels (including Services), and Office XP, as far as I know, likely due to internal miscommunications.
Hey guys, here's a new episode of the old format in which an operating system is tried out. These will be fairly rare as the focus will be mostly software, but expect these OS try out videos to come out occasionally too. I hope you all enjoy it :)
For those who want to see a clearer picture of the "Watercolor Taskbar" I designed as a concept in this video, you can check that out here: i.imgur.com/Wpf3EQX.png
i love u
Great video so far
Please Do HarmonyOS
The taskbar concept looks like the longhorn plex theme😂😂
YES. Your operating system videos are AMAZING. I use to watch them all the time. Thanks for going back to them :)
Wow, this video style is a throwback! Just like old times. Thanks Diana and Phil! :D
No problem, I'm glad you liked it :)
@@OsFirstTimer how does she get them
@@OsFirstTimer @OSFirstTimer Diana tries windows 11 leak!
I love your channel. 2 of my best Youtubr Channel:OSFirstTimer, Windows On Windows.
@@GavinScott077 your dream came true
Everything is okay, life is coming to normal. We can relax
@@NathanThomasMatthews scary
It's 2022 now life is better
no not really
THE SERIES IS BACK!!!! I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!!
As soon as you said "Write, save and open a text document", I just got such a nostalgia wave lmao, im glad these episodes are back
dude it’s crazy I used to watch you when I was younger, glad to see ur still uploading
Haha, thanks for sticking around so long :D
I watched OSFirstTimer then I was younger too!
it’s 2:40 am here, and i’ve decided to watch this instead of sleep
Wow I never tied that together myself, your mom is totally right on the theme. So many aspects of the Watercolour theme would translate sooo well to Windows 10. Like, way too nicely.
Yea, they totally need to bring watercolor to Windows 10 :)
@@OsFirstTimer @OSFirstTimer Diana tries windows 11 leak!
Too bad they still opted to flat color even after Fluent design introducing in 2017 and Windows 11 only make them rounded color (mica title bar only for several apps)
I missed this format! This video feels just like the old OS trying videos! Super nostalgic, and I’m excited to see even more of these OS videos from you and Diana!
I missed this series so much! Glad to see OS testing again
Yesss. OSFirstTimer finally comeback with beta build... I can suggest more for this beta build. Congrats with new episodes...
Looking At Beta Version Of Operating Systems, Or Anything In General Can Be So Interesting, Just To See What Never Saw The Light Of Day. It's Pretty Cool You Showcased My Second Favorite Windows Beta (First Being Windows Longhorn Build 4074).
I have an addiction to OSFirstTimer.
OMG SAME SIS 🤩🤩🤩
SAME
Just came onto UA-cam and saw this in my reccomended, almost missed it early on!
Diana definitely needs to try out Windows 11 as soon as it's announced on the 24th of June.
FYI: Watercolor was not meant to replace classic. It was intented as a placeholder from the start, hence the red inactive titlebar, to test new visual style engine.
Luna was the intended visual style from the start.
PS: This build doesn't have that red titlebar.
I actually used to live in British Columbia, Canada And I’ve been to Whistler once, it’s really nice.
I've been a fan of your videos for years! So glad a new OS video came out!
watercolor is a placeholder style just like ple and slate from longhorn, the reason they were made is because if a build was to be leaked the theme wouldn't be leaked before the announcement
I kinda miss these OS reviews. Lots of new Linux UIs (and updates to existing UIs) have been created since the last time you did this, so I'm hoping you'll have a look at some new DEs soon 👀
What do you think is the most unique new DE these days?
@@OsFirstTimer As for a unique DE, I'd definitely recommend the MaXX Interactive Desktop, which has many similarities with IRIX though with a few features not implemented yet, so I'd recommend installing a launcher like Rofi and adding it to the toolchest by modifying the chestrc, and due to its similarities with IRIX, it would perhaps be best for Ben to try it out as Diana has previously tried out IRIX before, though there are a few key differences. Overall, it is certainly a very unique Linux DE that is rather different than the usual Linux experience. You can't even install it using a package manager, due to proprietary components which is because of the license granted by SGI for the author of MaXX to recreate the experience of IRIX back when they were still a company. However, there are clear and easy-to-follow installation instructions on the official website.
@@OsFirstTimer GNOME 40 is pretty weird. Diana hated GNOME Shell back in GNOME 3 days so you should do a comparison.
Plasma hasn't changed much honestly, but it has definitely improved. Might be nice to revisit Plasma since she thought it was literally perfect back on Arch Linux.
Enlightenment, Budgie and Deepin might be the weirdest Linux DEs she hasn't tried, short of, like, starting from scratch with a tiling WM like i3/Sway/Awesome/dwm, which are very very weird but very time consuming to set up.
Also, from the world of Linux phones we've got Sailfish, Plasma Mobile, Lomiri (from Ubports), LuneOS UI and Phosh. Out of these Sailfish and Lomiri are the most abstract and trying a stable OS stack on a supported phone (I repeat, on a supported phone) would be interesting.
Finally, we've got a new competitor in the world of TVs, recently introduced: Plasma Bigscreen. Compatible with Mycroft, which is a voice assistant to compete with Google Assistant, Alexa, Siri, and Cortana. Though you won't find a lot to do on Bigscreen and it's probably not very stable. But it'd be interesting to see Diana fiddle with a TV, like with Android TV or Apple TV, or even Tizen (Samsung) or LG's webOS. All support voice commands, I think (Apple TV I'm not sure, but the rest all do.)
Now that I've typed these out, I've realized there's actually a decent amount of environments you haven't covered…
I missed this series so much!
I missed this format and OSFirstTimer advance! can't believe I've been watching you guys for so long now.
this reminds me of when i came home from school and i saw a new video in this format. dude thank you so fricking much im happy that you decided to go back to the old format for this video thank you phil and diana.
bringing it back to the classics! excited to watch this
I remember watching these videos when I was younger, god this is such a nice comeback
Finally, an OS review, it's been so long!
Windows 11 may be getting teased soon (June 24th)... hopefully Diana will do a reaction video to it
It is already leaked
@@Ananasij Yeah, I saw. Not as many major changes are happening... Although the actual OS build download has been leaked, so better yet Diana can probably try out the OS 😊
This is a great series. I love this channel. It's amazing how you can fetch the beta versons. I love this series. Amazing it's back!
They are readily documented and available online which is super important for historic software preservation. I'm really glad people are dedicated to backing this stuff all up :)
@@OsFirstTimer Yeah, just would like to say that I would like to see a descruction video of this Windows verson.
Would you be instred in doing a longhorn video of this same video? I know they take a long time to make, you do a amazing job!
Missed this. I'm wasn't a huge fan of the games through time and I prefer this kind of content, but keep do what you want to do and I'll stay along the whole time =D
same (but kinda eh on gtt)
same, i hated gtt
same!
Yeah, the operating system reviewing/destroying was what I watched for. During the game period I stopped watching. I was excited to see a new non-gaming video.
I like the “Professional” desktop background
Return of the king
I remember I saw some guys saying that the Watercolor theme was just a burner theme, so rivals didn’t copied the look and feel of the Luna theme before XP camed out.
Woah! This reminds me of when i first found this channel, nice to see you still uploading.
The fact that today I was thinking about OSFirstTimer and then you guys posted this!! We missed you!!
Haha, thanks, I still remember you :)
@@OsFirstTimer :))))
OMG, THANK YOH SO MUCH FOR BRINGING BACK THE OLD VIDEOS. YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH THIS MEANS TO ME!!!!
Lol I’m from British Columbia. And I’ve been to Whistler before, It’s a beautiful place.
Glad this is back, This is why I started watching you the years ago.
A blast from the past!
Oooh nice! Whistler is a very good looking OS because of the water color.
This man pulled out the script for the windows 10 theme XD.
Yesssss finally Osfirstimer use Whistler
wow, i didn't know you still existed im glad i can watch this stuff again after all this time
Finally back to the old routine! Good job
So excited for an old style video! Thanks guys 😁
Yaaay I missed the OS videos 😌
YAY!!!! Im glad this channel is active again!
Ah, good to see those types of videos
I love how Diana is very interested in the technical details in this episode :)
Yay a classic OSFirstTimer video!
Not sure if you guys head of the leak of windows 11 by Microsoft which they are announcing a new windows os on June 24 anyways.
i missed this and i'm glad it's back!
Yes! The nostalgia!
Yay! I like the new videos but it's always nice to go back to the old format once and again. Keep up the good work!
The classics are back! 🥳
Love your vids man!!! Been watching you since a long time and I loved your OS vids!
I love seeing these amazing videos, the software reviews are awesome!
You guys get a lot of emails lol (gmail notifs sound) So happy to see Diana testing operating systems coming back! Would love to see Diana try the new MacOS Monterey since a lot has changed since High Sierra
- Sean (subscriber since 10k ;) love your channel)
Finally! After almost a year! They are back at it!
Man, I missed this series!
Diana should try the new leaked build of windows 11
Dang it Phil! I was just about to go to bed :P
But on a serious note, the lore the Whistler code name has to do with the roadmap of Windows at the time. Microsoft planned on three releases of Windows, codenamed Whistler, Longhorn, and Blackcomb. Whistler and Blackcomb would be major releases while Longhorn would be a smaller release. The idea was that to get from the Whistler to Blackcomb mountains, you would have to pass a Longhorn bar and grill. Same with Windows. To get from Whistler (XP) to Blackcomb, you would have to pass through Longhorn (Vista). But as we know, this didn’t turn out, and Longhorn was a much larger release than we expected, and Blackcomb was pretty much scrapped, atleast in the way Microsoft originally wanted it.
If you wanna know a little more history on Windows codenames, this naming scheme postdates their sea-god based naming scheme, with Neptune, Oddessy, and Triton, where Neptune was for home users (there only exists one build of it online), Oddessy was for business users (no leaked builds), and Triton was just a small update to Neptune. But famously, they merged the Oddessy and Neptune teams to work on Whistler, and the rest is history.
I also wanted to ask if you and Diana were planning on testing this “new generation of Windows” they plan on releasing in a few weeks, assuming they call it Windows 11. Maybe they will bring back the watercolor theme, which IMO should’ve been used as the default Windows Basic theme in XP.
It probably won’t be called Windows 11 because Microsoft stated that Windows 10 is the last version of windows. It will probably just be released as a new build of Windows 10 as they usually do.
@Ma1w4r3 it will probably be version 21H2 or something, not sure
Just did a quick google search and found this: While Microsoft once claimed that it would never move to a Windows 11. Instead, Windows 10 would continue with a regular update schedule, with major updates twice a year. However, with the Windows 10X project now shelved, it seems plans are changing.
I guess Microsoft is making a windows 11 then..
@@totallyapinetree Microsoft never really claimed that Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows. One engineer that doesn’t even work at Microsoft anymore said that. The PC world took that and ran with it though.
Yea, really cool history, thanks for letting me know! As for this new generation, 10X got cancelled, as far as I know, it was looking really interesting! Windows 10 has started to become a little stale, I'm hoping for a real change up in looks to move away from the flat look, I'm getting a little... over it :P
YES THE CIRCLE IS BACK!!!! just looks a bit off AND EVERYTHINGS GOING BACK TO NORMAL!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
We are back to classic os first timer
You just got in my recommended again. I regret nothing.
Yay life is normal again! Please continue making videos like this!!
I’ve been rewatching your videos all day! I’m so glad you uploaded :)
Edit - I noticed you got a new CPU, does that mean you just upgraded the CPU or the whole pc?
Haha, something new to watch :D
I got a new PC from MWave in 2020, it was faulty for an entire year, so they eventually gave me a full refund and I got a new PC this year from them. The new PC is perfect :)
@@OsFirstTimer So happy! Great episode :)
@Ma1w4r3 I know!
@Ma1w4r3 you did 2014 twice and the order is unusual
The watercolor theme was actually never intended to be released, it simply was a deterrent for people to look into the new theme that was being developed
I'm supposed to be walking to school, but imma watch osft
As long as you don't do both, I'm not responsible for any injuries caused by a lack of attention while walking ;)
@@OsFirstTimer haha, I have free period anyway so I can watch when I get there 🤣🤣🤣
i havent watched this channel in so long, im back
When it's 2:28 am but osft uploads...
Try living in Australia when E3 is live, everything is at like 3am :P
@@OsFirstTimer omg you actually responded! I've been watching since 2014!! Also that must really suck :(
This style is a mix of windows 9x and windows xp! Love it!
You uploaded this at 2 am I was sleeping
I really like that watercolour theme; they should have kept it 💙
I hope that Microsoft come up with something similar for Windows 10 to polish up its flat appearance
Nice video, keep up the great work 👍
Will Diana ever try out an operating system in a different language again? I thought maybe Croatian because of her heritage?
I don't believe she can actually read croatian but yea, I definitly agree with you about polishing up windows 10's look.
@@OsFirstTimer It could be any foreign language, it was just Croatian that popped into my head because of that connection. Or maybe let Ben try it out…
No worries! I converted the Watercolor theme from Whistler to a high contrast theme! It doesn't look exactly the same, but it looks very similar.
Algorithm recommend me this. It has been a VERY long time since I watched this series.
Windows Whistler is the pre-XP operating system.
Finally, you haven't done this for years
5:38 that actually looks amazing
i love windows whistler
The real osfirsttimer is Back!
Excellent video Phillip! :3
YOOOOO I COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT YOU GUYS!!!! GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK!
you have such a cool mom. treasure her, go to the mall with her and have a coffee once a week.
YEESSS!!! WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR!
That Watercolor menu item highlight at 7:56 with the 1 pixel border round the edge looks like the menu item highlight in Windows 8.
Hey OSFirstTimer, Please try out Windows 11 (its gonna be out on october but someone leaked windows 11 first build) the first build
Oh my god i remember watching this when i was a kid
I miss all of the old videos : (
6:03. I really love the Windows XP Silver Theme. It's so elegant and beautiful. I love it so much and I prefer it over the Luna Blue theme any day.
Im glad you gus are back to making videos see you
YES A MUM TRIES OUT EPISODE!
Finally, an OS testing video (the reason I subscribed)
can't wait for a windows 11 episode
Great video.
jesus christ my childhood is back
Windows XP and gran turismo 4 are both very revolutionizing
congrats on 200 videos!!!
as a fun fact: the Sample Visual Test Style (and potentially Watercolor) were actually meant to be decoys, as Microsoft wanted the Luna theme to be a surprise (and prevent people from ripping the theme off).
(source: devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20060111-09/?p=32693)
I love OS First Timer!
I have to wonder if Philip missed a bit of info someone posted that mentioned that Watercolor was intended to just be a placeholder in order to reduce the risk of the "Windows XP style" (internally called "Luna") being copied by competitors, at least from what I heard, but the visual style stuck in the Windows XP Language Bar, some MMC panels (including Services), and Office XP, as far as I know, likely due to internal miscommunications.
keep up the amazing content
Love this video❤❤❤!
Just like the old times!