Müller would have been aware of every hiding place and secret route. He was smart, calm, and calculating. He seems like the kind of person that would have considered escape possibilities long before. The fact that he wasn't a fan of Nazism or Communism it is not hard to believe he could keep a low profile after the war. Between his stature, and mindset, minus his eye coloration, Müller was as gray as it gets. His knowledge and practice of the spy tradecraft would have given him a huge advantage in escaping.
I've been watching WWII documentaries for over 60 years and Mark Felton's works are brilliant. Factual, well researched, packed with detail. And presented in a calm sensible way, no dramatic music, no preposterous suppositions, a delight to watch. Thank you,.
Can't put it better myself. It's nice to not have the "history" documentaries on TV which often take the most outrageous, ridiculous theories and make them appear to be mainstream. Then there is one so-called history show which I describe as, "Never have so many taken so much time to accomplish so little." I could go on an on, but suffice it to say, Dr. Felton's presentation of real history minus anti-intellectual silliness and melodrama is a great pleasure.
Indeed Sir-you are most correct,Professor Felton is a "true gem" with information we never knew we needed to know until he told us,then we knew we needed to know-ya know?
I am an university teacher and organized a screening of this video and the students loved it. Thank you all those who made it. The narrator does an excellent job.
That must be well worth $45,000 a year. Never would have thought to do my own research. Or watch a UA-cam video instead. Oh yeah, I forgot to just to repeat the text and video. Here ya go $45,000 a year
If high schools went into deep detail about such trivial details as the whereabouts of middling Nazi generals, there wouldn’t be time for the rest of history, not to mention other subjects. School isn’t meant to teach you everything.
I would say if there any of them, who could disappear, would be this man, someone who hunted people for a living, knew how to fit in and disappear. It’s hard not to believe that he didn’t have a plan to escape.
Another fantastic documentary Mark. I am currently reading "Heinrich Himmler" by Peter Longerich and his conclusion was "Muller was the only the member of the group (he says Brant, Muller and Kiermaier were together) who actually succeeded in disappearing without a trace. Your documentary was 28 minutes long, his book is 748 pages long and you both came to the same conclusion, no one will ever know what happened to him. Keep up the good work.
I love how you take the time to describe and detail each uniform and significant patch. This is an all too important detail left out of many history documentaries. Thanks for the content.
FH JK FH JK 1 seconde geleden If Mark Felton's work is ,,so carefully researched,, why than is he misplacing the face of Heinrich Muller with that of Otto Dietrich…?,,
@@cdf360 exactly lol. Out of what I think are hundreds of videos, getting a handful of mistakes is fine. He still covers mostly stuff that I'd wager 90% of today's populations never knew. Sure, any of us could research it all ourselves, but he's done a great job filing it all and condensing it for us to digest easily. Very cool and interesting.
Mark has a tremendous ability to capture the imagination of an audience and really draw us in. No such thing as a boring video with Mark. Always factual, unbiased, interesting and entertaining stuff
Dear Mark, the immense research on every video with succinct verbal delivery is second to none. As a British born Indian I am wowed by every video. Thank you 🙏🏽
Dear Mark. As a Pole, (living in Germany since I`m eleven... now 42)...I do really appreciate the way you bring close the history to people, by telling it in a very obvious way!!! Unfortunately...today there are TOO MANY people trying to "rewrite" history...So I´m truly happy to find someone like YOU, who really cares about history... who takes time to tell something about how it REALLY was! Thank you for this Bro!!! God bless!!!!
@@barbaraturkot7737 And who are YOU? His lawyer??? I've made some compliments and was very respectfully to this man!!! (Not knowing who he is!) Aah, why am I explaining myself???? 😡 Get your OWN business!!!
@@barbaraturkot7737C’mon man. Anyone that likes history and has a good memory for trivia can easily get a doctorate in history. It’s not an intelligence degree, just a memorization degree.
Müller's story was very interesting to me because of the mystery surrounding his disappearance during the waning days of WW2. I'm a sucker for all things with an element of mystery lol. Glad to see it covered here, Dr. Felton!
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Thule or Vril related, the case is that my fellow countrymen retreated to the hollow earth (questionable) and build a new society, breaking away from earth and becoming space faring
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Gestapo Chief, by Douglas. Very interesting thesis. OSS got him and he came, like the rocket scientists, to the US. provided information on communist spies in the US and Germany.
Dr. Felton is certainly someone that I believe without reservation has EARNED that title. Finding better historical information in digestible format is slim to none. Well done, Doctor, and many thanks.
That sting at the end made me do a triple-take and burst out laughing. Every single one of your videos is utterly fantastic and I love sharing this channel to my friends.
You have to click on that stuff!!!! How else will you be able to see a squirrel trying to eat bird seed thrown 20 meters by a catapult! Or someone throwing a gigantic rock off a bridge!
He scares me even more than ideology driven people. Ideologically driven people make lots of mistakes and bad decisions in the name of ideological purity. But hyper pragmatic people don't seem to have the same limits while still being just as cruel.
@@rifekimler3309 Indeed - yes the man was a swine, but frankly he wouldn't have been without the Nazi-Regime! He was an efficient, driven policemen who enjoyed his work and (as stated in the video) he didn't care for the Nazis! Hell, he probably only was left alone (anybody writing what he did about Hitler might have wound up either shot or in a concentration camp!) because he was a good serf for his new masters!
I have to admit that as soon as I heard "a body in SS general's uniform with Mueller's identity papers" my immediate thought was "ah, so he switched clothes with a corpse!"
@@kfeltenberger That's a thought. Dupe him into thinking you had an escape plan when in reality his escape plan was to murder him and steal his identity.
I am on a Dr. Mark Felton marathon today and tonight. His WW2 documentaries are the best that I've seen anywhere. I hope his books are made into movies here in the US. I will be the first in line to get tickets. Once again, thank you for your hard work, Dr. Felton. 👍
JD on History Underground does a great job as well. He is a history teacher (day job). My students watch a video just before we start a topic and it brings to life what they are learning. My hope is it sticks with them for a better world to come.
A most well presented and expertly delivered article. Your obviously in-depth research is always skilfully constructed into a thought-provoking yet entertaining whole. Thanks again Mark.
definately. great content, did support his sponsor too because of his recommendation. great character, hope he will stay safe and healthy for many many years to come and continue his educational channel and work as historian!
Mark this could quite possibly be the best video you have ever done! I think he got away. He was never a true believer, and all those years would have given him the time to assemble an alternative identity, and the ways and means to pull off a disappearing act.
My French grandfather, a cinema owner in a northern town, was imprisoned by the Gestapo for a week because as an important local figure it was "his turn" to be arrested. Not sure of what crime was committed but that was irrelevant. The Gestapo had no chance of catching the right suspect so anyone would do. Sound bad? On returning home, his concerned family asked how it had been. He said he'd never laughed so much. He'd been locked up with other town notables - all friends - and they'd all played cards and told each other stories. It must be added this was in 1944, the Gestapo knew they were losing and had no interest in needlessly creating more enemies. But still, not the sort of story one normally associates with being jailed by the Gestapo!
He was very lucky. There were untold numbers of round ups of local ‘notables’ who were then shot/hanged in retribution for partisan activity,not just in France but in all occupied countries.
@@adscri No army allow partisan activity , regardless what countrys army is ! They used reprisal for that ! Why the germans be blame for that ? If somebody shot american, or english solders ., they let him get away with it ?
@@gaborczirjak4172 So you are saying that it's okay to shoot innocent civilians, by an occupying army, because of partisan activity. Give some examples of American or English soldiers doing this in W.W. 2.
Dr. Feltons historical documentaries are the the finest, accurate accounts of war time informed available. There is no other source even close to these and I watch as many as possible! Thank you Dr. Felton for educating people who are otherwise historically illiterate!
I was like: Nah, this is kinda boring stuff. I'll just go to my next tab with a video ready to watch...28 minutes later...damn, this is probably one of most fascinating stories I've seen yet on this channel! What a man. What a MYSTERY!
I just wanna say that when I was 14, I bought myself an ankle-length leather coat. I was very proud of it but my grandma said I looked like Gestapo 😂 I've never wore it again, and I'm 27 now.
In a weird way, the Nuremberg defendants contradict the deniers. The defendants used the excuses of "I had nothing to do with it" or "That wasn't my department" or the classic "I was just following orders." None of THEM denied the horrific events of the Nazi era ever happened! So what does that tell you?
I wish Jesus would come back. the Devil is loose. the Jesuit Order Black Poop haha.. morons.. something wrong with man. sick-o hard to believe but then again; thats just me
they dont have accurate achives. The remains that were supposedly hitler arent even hitler. No one even know what happened to the Romanovs in WW1 when the soviets executed them. Stalin altered everything to fit his narratives
On the other hand, considering the (often deserved) reputation of Soviet soldiers for cruelty towards German women, it's... understandable, from Muller's perspective.
@@77thTrombone I agree with your point about payback, but even if the Nazi soldiers had of been like choirboys in the east, I still think the Red Army would have acted as they did. Russian armies through history have been quite barbaric to civilians.
Chas Maravel - y'know, I just returned to this thread to make a similar point. You nailed it tho. Of course, maybe he wanted his Liebchen to enjoy the full Red Army experience. Love goes through seasons 🍁🌿🍂🍃.
Mark, I love the way you tell your stories. Although your headlines draw me in, I know I'm going to get so much more in depth information. In a nut shell, you always give us more than we hoped for and every time. Thank You!
WELLBRAN Lmao I love conspiracy nutters that think Hitler is still alive, like all the historians are wrong but Dave here in his basement figured out what really happened to Hitler! Yeah
Mark your dedication to thorough research is incredibly impressive; it's one thing to say "it takes about thirteen minutes to walk from the Fuhrerbunker to Prinz Albrecht Strasse", it's another thing entirely to say "I've done it".
@@Ronnie-Jones I wish that they would change the history books and start teaching the truth world wide this !!!! I am in shock after watching "Europa the Last Battle" Everyone needs to watch all of that ! OMG !!!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING !
I came through here just to look if anyone already mentioned it. Watching others trying there best on these pronunciations always invokes cringe but this video alone shows commitment.
One of the best, and fantastically the longest, videos I have seen. I would love to see these areas today. Fantastically done Dr. Even more interesting, is the number of people who simply “vanished” during the end days of the war. Mass graves filled with people, who’s identity will never be known. The end music snippet was a genius touch!
Mark, your documentaries are awesome. And, there's something about your voice that just completes the quality of it all. We'll spoken, and proper accent. No bullshit shenanigans. Legit. Respect to you, dude.
@@mattbarbarich3295 wow. "With an agenda", huh? You'd better put your tinfoil hat back on, bucko; they're trying to read your mind, but coming up blank anyway...
@@mattbarbarich3295 "in caves, under trees"? Dude, its clear you have *no* idea what you're talking about. Not only that, but you seem to purposefully misunderstand whoever tells you American news.
@@mattbarbarich3295 top 5 best major cities for air quality, two are in the States, one in Canada, one in NZ, and one in Australia. Funny, if you guys had the cleanest air, you'd think, I dunno, Edinburgh, or London, would have to be on that list...
Mark Felton. I remember your documentaries when I was a kid with my Father. They were a peaceful times and I missed them for some time when I quit watching the channel and TV in general. It makes me happy to see you still making quality content.
Love the detail and dedication you give to each documentary. You always ask the questions and bring up the possibilities that others pass over.You're a rare breed....Thanks
Dear Mark, your depth of voice is mesmerizing , wanting your videos to never stop. You are a great professional and apparently a very hard worker/researcher to boot. God Bless.
@@GenJouh That was part of *why* Heydrich hired him: With remarks like that in his past, Müller would be dependent on Heydrich's continued patronage to survive, thus personally loyal to Heydrich before all else.
Well after three days solid listening to thus channel I feel a sub is rightfully deserved, late, but deserved. This channel makes me feel I'm there with the history.
a practical, non ideological person had a good chance of engineering his own disappearance. I'll give it 50/50 that he succeeded and lived out his life quietly and unobtrusively...........
He had a couple of years knowing after the US entered the war the end of Nazi Germany was certain. As head of the Secret Service, his plans were secret, along with his Secret Swiss Bank Accounts of stolen wealth from nations that were invaded.
@@charlesangell_bulmtl If we see how Mengele, Borman had successfully made their escape, Reinhard Gehlen who survived the war & then became GFR secret services chief, & Eichmann who almost got away, then it's not at all impossible that a man with Heinrich Mueller's cunning and a computer-like mind, wouldn't be able to rig his own files at RSHA HQ with false sets of id (fingerprints among others) when he saw the crunch coming.
Müller was actually highly intelligent and possessed a photographic memory which is why his interrogation techniques were so successful. He simply waited for them to trip up with their fabricated stories as he remembered everything they ever said. He was the ideal police officer. He also hated the communists with a vengeance and would never allow himself to be captured by them and certainly never work for them. He would have been extremely valuable to the CIA or its predecessor as his knowledge of Soviet operations and his extensive spy network would just about be impossible to resist with the approaching Cold War. America rightly would deny all knowledge. Food for thought.
Exactly. The OSS and Allen Dulles knew all about Müller and needed him in the era of Realpolitik of the Cold War for his knowledge of the Communist apparatus. He was used by the Americans and given cover in return, protected from the prying eyes of British, Israeli and other American intelligence agencies. Files remain sealed in both Langley and The National Archive UK.
I always love listening to these analyses, and I do believe this is your magnum opus on this channel. Thank you, Dr. Felton, from one historian to another!
Im a big fan of these better than the history channel been watching nonstop 1 of the best history channel’s on UA-cam keep up the good work i always recommend this channel Hello from TEXAS
I normally save watching these for the weekend; but this time I had to, just had to hear what Mark Felton thought of what happened to Heinrich Muller. Really well done video!!
A thorough take on a mystery. Thank you! (Although I think everyone underestimates the deviousness of a career policeman. That man would have had snouts everywhere, resources tucked away everywhere and a plan to get himself out of every possible midden. I know, I policed across three decades...)
yeah I think he was way smarter than most of them, Muller would have seen the writing on the wall at least 2 yrs before 1945 and would have put his way out into plan. I always thought he ended up working for the Americans?
I think you're absolutely spot on. This man had the entire Gestapo at his disposal, and he knew how to operate this apparatus with virtuosity. In addition, he most definitely had excellent connections, several depots in several countries with money and/or other valuables and ID cards for carefully created false identities. This man was able to disappear at any time, with ease, like a fart in the wind.
8:45 Misch wrote in "Hitler's Last Witness" that the sight of Müller was a greater concern for him than the death of Hitler or the advancing Red Army. He thought that Müller planned to kill all the inhabitants of the Führerbunker at the last moment, thus leaving no witnesses of Hitler's last days. He even thought the bunker might be have been fitted with demolition charges during its construction.
Coincidentally, I was researching Muller today, I was looking into the possibilities of him surviving the end of WW2. I believe it's possible he got away and fled. I wouldn't say he fled to Argentina specifically as since he was calculating he might have been able to deduce he would be hunted there and decided to avoid it to cover his tracks. He might have gone to Chile
I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Canada or the U.S hiding in plain sight, like 'oh this guy looks like Muller but it cant be him we would have caught him'.
@@0michelleki020 Spoiler alert, he's still alive today and actually is Robert Mueller. He has found a way to cheat death and is now working to remake the reich from the US.
Wow. What a great piece of work this is. I love reading everything about the “European” part of WW2, especially the war at the East-front and all the horrors surrounding it. And also the Russian Revolution, civil war and Stalin’s rise to diabolical power are very interesting to me. As for documentaries however, I didn’t find nearly as much interesting stuff as I found in the library. There are some absolutely phenomenal documentaries but there’s also a lot of questionable stuff out there. But the videos on this channel are not just 100% accurate, often I learn something new that I had never read in books. And that’s very, very rare. It’s practically always the other way around. So Bravo for mr.Felton. This channel is an absolute enrichment for UA-cam 👍👍👍
Your videos are fascinating. The details and information you present are astounding. Where you get this information, I do not know. Respect and love to you all from 🇨🇦.
The fact that he was not an extreme ideologist, as we learn from this video, he seemed to focus primarily on his work. As head of the Gestapo, surely he was most aware of the state of affairs and probably caught on pretty early on the fact that it was only a matter of time before the Allies came knocking on their front door. Thats more than enough time for for such an important figure with abundant resources and loyal personnel to divise an escape plan. Also I would like to point out that through his experience, he and his department found tens of thousands of people, if not more. He basically saw every trick in the book on how to avoid captivity. Why would he carry his identification papers with him? If he had his escape planned out, the people who would assist him have surely been with him for some time, probably his most loyal officers and soldiers and Im positive that those people got either money or gold to make it worth their while and ensure them an easier time after escaping. Lastly, if he truly was found by the Soviets, the belongings of the head of the Gestapo would sit lovely in a display at the Kremlin.
I seriously doubt a guy like Muller would attempt to take his uniform or his medals with him when attempting to escape Soviets. He's not a complete moron.
If you watched the whole episode, Herr Manfeigerline tried that and was shot for Desertion. He may have only had a chance to bring himself and his uniform in order to appease Hitler in his final weeks.
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Class A research project. Special thanks to Gestapo muller for making this documentary possible!!!
Since Truman made a comment about the CIA: “I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.” and Allen Dulles who was head of the CIA as well a part of Operation Paperclip, I would say it isn't impossible that Heinrich Muller ended his days as a retired employee of the US government under Operation Paperclip as one of the architects of the CIA.
It was either that or get trained then fed to the pigs by sex starved red army troops ! Cyanide capsule all day long for most woman in Berlin at that time I suspect if of course they were lucky enough to have one as a parting gift do the maths
"This building had been badly damaged in an allied air-raid in 1945 -- destroying all the extensive library of files held within." Rrrrrriiiiiiiggghht.... ;)
Müller would have been aware of every hiding place and secret route. He was smart, calm, and calculating. He seems like the kind of person that would have considered escape possibilities long before. The fact that he wasn't a fan of Nazism or Communism it is not hard to believe he could keep a low profile after the war. Between his stature, and mindset, minus his eye coloration, Müller was as gray as it gets. His knowledge and practice of the spy tradecraft would have given him a huge advantage in escaping.
This is an excellent point
Except you cant never calculate an already shot bullet.
He died in the subway no one is that good
@@jojojojo4332No. But you can precalculate the situation and moment of the firing.
Agree. Read about him enough to agree with you.@@yukoncornelius5014
Is it so unimaginable that a person who was in charge of finding people who don't want to be found knows how to not be found?
Yes true. Felton ponders this @ 26:36
Exactly. They cannot allow that narrative. Sometimes evil people don't pay for their crimes.
@@krzykrisyeah like Churchill
Or the entire subcontinent of India.@@saadhasan2300
@@saadhasan2300ooohhh edgyy
I've been watching WWII documentaries for over 60 years and Mark Felton's works are brilliant. Factual, well researched, packed with detail. And presented in a calm sensible way, no dramatic music, no preposterous suppositions, a delight to watch. Thank you,.
Can't put it better myself. It's nice to not have the "history" documentaries on TV which often take the most outrageous, ridiculous theories and make them appear to be mainstream. Then there is one so-called history show which I describe as, "Never have so many taken so much time to accomplish so little." I could go on an on, but suffice it to say, Dr. Felton's presentation of real history minus anti-intellectual silliness and melodrama is a great pleasure.
@@ScottPalmer-mp1we I can’t agree more! Listening to Dr. Felton is akin sitting in a huge auditorium having a history lesson! Best. X
Indeed Sir-you are most correct,Professor Felton is a "true gem" with information we never knew we needed to know until he told us,then we knew we needed to know-ya know?
That intro is a banger tho
Yes!
I am an university teacher and organized a screening of this video and the students loved it. Thank you all those who made it. The narrator does an excellent job.
The narrator is the maker
Delegation.
That must be well worth $45,000 a year.
Never would have thought to do my own research. Or watch a UA-cam video instead.
Oh yeah, I forgot to just to repeat the text and video. Here ya go $45,000 a year
@@jasonkemppainen4731 You're an idiot.
@@jasonkemppainen4731 That's not how college works lol
I have learned more about WW2 watching Mark Felton videos than all my years in school!
They don't teach you a lot of this in school .. even how to manage and make a lot of money
If high schools went into deep detail about such trivial details as the whereabouts of middling Nazi generals, there wouldn’t be time for the rest of history, not to mention other subjects. School isn’t meant to teach you everything.
@@ThreeGuysOneMic why go there than in the first place ?
Literally
The winner writes the history .
I would say if there any of them, who could disappear, would be this man, someone who hunted people for a living, knew how to fit in and disappear. It’s hard not to believe that he didn’t have a plan to escape.
Yes, cowards will always find a way out..
@@sherlockgnomes8971 yes like Hitler himself
The bastard is probably drinking a cold one in argentina
@@a.e.9821 Suicide in the face of capture is cowardly. A true, brave soldier fights til the end.
@@gerwulfthered154 "a true warrior" what a dork
Another fantastic documentary Mark. I am currently reading "Heinrich Himmler" by Peter Longerich and his conclusion was "Muller was the only the member of the group (he says Brant, Muller and Kiermaier were together) who actually succeeded in disappearing without a trace. Your documentary was 28 minutes long, his book is 748 pages long and you both came to the same conclusion, no one will ever know what happened to him. Keep up the good work.
I love how you take the time to describe and detail each uniform and significant patch. This is an all too important detail left out of many history documentaries. Thanks for the content.
as good as it gets, Mark is the ultimate professional
All of Mark Felton's work is so carefully researched and done and the quality shows.....great job Mr. Felton
FH JK
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If Mark Felton's work is ,,so carefully researched,, why than is he misplacing the face of Heinrich Muller with that of Otto Dietrich…?,,
Pity he didn’t get wansee conference date correct
@@fhjk2382 Nobody’s perfect
@@cdf360 exactly lol. Out of what I think are hundreds of videos, getting a handful of mistakes is fine.
He still covers mostly stuff that I'd wager 90% of today's populations never knew. Sure, any of us could research it all ourselves, but he's done a great job filing it all and condensing it for us to digest easily.
Very cool and interesting.
@@oldkingcrow777 agreed!
Mark has a tremendous ability to capture the imagination of an audience and really draw us in. No such thing as a boring video with Mark. Always factual, unbiased, interesting and entertaining stuff
I love ASIAN MESSAGE PARLORS 💕 ❤️
Mark is my guy
Wasn't that bondkansalier Scholz , I hear nothing ,I see nothing
although it consists just out of a few video snippets and pictures haha
How much does Israel pay him
As a German I can tell you that your pronunciation is incredibly good. Someone who actually tries to pronounce ä, ö and ü properly.
That's because HE is Muller.🤔😳
I was going to say the same. Excellent pronunciation.
Boehner is not beauner, but boohner.
Dem kann ich nur zustimmen 👍
Heydrisch.
Dear Mark, the immense research on every video with succinct verbal delivery is second to none. As a British born Indian I am wowed by every video. Thank you 🙏🏽
What does British born Indian mean? You were born in Britain but moved to india?
@@Thecaptainblackadder Or second gen immigrant
Dear Mark.
As a Pole, (living in Germany since I`m eleven... now 42)...I do really appreciate the way you bring close the history to people, by telling it in a very obvious way!!!
Unfortunately...today there are TOO MANY people trying to "rewrite" history...So I´m truly happy to find someone like YOU, who really cares about history... who takes time to tell something about how it REALLY was!
Thank you for this Bro!!! God bless!!!!
Don't even Admit that you're polish and live in Natzis' country.,🥺👎👎🦧
And Did you know That Mr.Mark F. Has A Doctorate Degree in History...He is DEFINITELY NOT: "your bro"🤣😂😃👎
@@barbaraturkot7737 And who are YOU? His lawyer???
I've made some compliments and was very respectfully to this man!!!
(Not knowing who he is!)
Aah, why am I explaining myself???? 😡 Get your OWN business!!!
@@barbaraturkot7737 the logic behind this argument is astonishing...
@@barbaraturkot7737C’mon man. Anyone that likes history and has a good memory for trivia can easily get a doctorate in history. It’s not an intelligence degree, just a memorization degree.
Finally! I've been requesting about Gestapo Muller for a while now and today my wish came true! Thank you Mark Felton for the another amazing video.
Müller's story was very interesting to me because of the mystery surrounding his disappearance during the waning days of WW2. I'm a sucker for all things with an element of mystery lol.
Glad to see it covered here, Dr. Felton!
Check out Imperial Germans then, interesting topic with lots of occult and mystery
@@ThePrimebeef
Will do! Would you recommend any specific books to look into this topic? :)
Yes the possible escape is fascinating due to him clearly being a planner and intelligent man
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Thule or Vril related, the case is that my fellow countrymen retreated to the hollow earth (questionable) and build a new society, breaking away from earth and becoming space faring
@@punishedvenomsnake716 Gestapo Chief, by Douglas. Very interesting thesis. OSS got him and he came, like the rocket scientists, to the US. provided information on communist spies in the US and Germany.
Dr. Felton is certainly someone that I believe without reservation has EARNED that title. Finding better historical information in digestible format is slim to none. Well done, Doctor, and many thanks.
Mark Felton has the perfect voice for history docs
Müller is that one classmate who neither smile nor laugh when a classmate or the teacher makes a funny joke
I know that feeling, it's called depression
@@yourstruly4817 Thankfully depression can be treated. Banal evil, not so much.
I hated that crap too. I just wanted to get my state mandated indoctrination then go home and play Halo.
@@scutumfidelis1436 I play halo also... Hit me up we can play
@@dreamcrusher112 -_- get me the cure then lmfao
“Last seen in the company of Sgt Schultz.” Quote from Sgt Schultz, “I know nothing; nothing.” Great video as always. Thank you, Mark.
Thats exactly what went through my mind at that part
i love that series!
Best military prison camp in Nazi Germany comedy staring a sex creep ever!
You know nothing, sgt Schultz
SCHUUULTZ! 😄🤣😂
That sting at the end made me do a triple-take and burst out laughing. Every single one of your videos is utterly fantastic and I love sharing this channel to my friends.
Mark is here to save us from the UA-cam algorithm.
of course he is!
You have to click on that stuff!!!! How else will you be able to see a squirrel trying to eat bird seed thrown 20 meters by a catapult! Or someone throwing a gigantic rock off a bridge!
And the crap that the [so-called] History channel offers...
@@julianraiders1112 i had no idea that squirrel catapulting was a thing. Thank you for 10 minutes of entertainment.
Not even the algorithm dares to be anti semetic.
He scares me even more than ideology driven people. Ideologically driven people make lots of mistakes and bad decisions in the name of ideological purity. But hyper pragmatic people don't seem to have the same limits while still being just as cruel.
Banal evil is far more real than absolute evil and I think it is far more damaging. Normal people doing very abnormal things.
I tend to agree with your assessment.. There is no drive for the "greater good" they are evil for evils sake only..
Anything Mueller did pales in comparison to ideologues such as Dzherzinksy, Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria.
Ideology is just what evil people use to justify their means to the masses
@@rifekimler3309 Indeed - yes the man was a swine, but frankly he wouldn't have been without the Nazi-Regime! He was an efficient, driven policemen who enjoyed his work and (as stated in the video) he didn't care for the Nazis! Hell, he probably only was left alone (anybody writing what he did about Hitler might have wound up either shot or in a concentration camp!) because he was a good serf for his new masters!
I have to admit that as soon as I heard "a body in SS general's uniform with Mueller's identity papers" my immediate thought was "ah, so he switched clothes with a corpse!"
My thought is that it was the radio operator...
Schultz perhaps?
@@shugardad My thoughts too! Maybe he was Mueller's unwitting fall guy?
Right, cause thats easy in the movies
@@kfeltenberger That's a thought. Dupe him into thinking you had an escape plan when in reality his escape plan was to murder him and steal his identity.
I am on a Dr. Mark Felton marathon today and tonight. His WW2 documentaries are the best that I've seen anywhere. I hope his books are made into movies here in the US. I will be the first in line to get tickets. Once again, thank you for your hard work, Dr. Felton. 👍
JD on History Underground does a great job as well. He is a history teacher (day job). My students watch a video just before we start a topic and it brings to life what they are learning. My hope is it sticks with them for a better world to come.
The punchline is: Muller is watching this while enjoying a cold one in South America and he's the person who clicked thumbs down on this video.
@W Winterheart e
Living the centanarian lifestyle
He’s making duplicate accounts with all the thumbs down
After creating his rice manufacturing empire obviously
I never thought I'd recognise a UA-camr in this comment section
A most well presented and expertly delivered article. Your obviously in-depth research is always skilfully constructed into a thought-provoking yet entertaining whole. Thanks again Mark.
Keep sucking
Colin's right. Thanks Mark.
Es ist nicht gut recherchiert! Grüße aus Preußen.
@@bontgenkurt6722 Welche Fehler kannst du denn da bezeugen?
@lemus farkle let me ask you, do you know of the specific sources that he uses?
Well Mark, this sure does beat Storage Wars on the History Channel. 👌😆😆. Keep up the great content, big fan of your work.
Let’s be honest, storage wars isn’t what it used to be
@@hairlesscat6458 🤣🤣
Lol.... absolutely!
definately. great content, did support his sponsor too because of his recommendation. great character, hope he will stay safe and healthy for many many years to come and continue his educational channel and work as historian!
Storage hunters was on point when it came out
Mark this could quite possibly be the best video you have ever done! I think he got away. He was never a true believer, and all those years would have given him the time to assemble an alternative identity, and the ways and means to pull off a disappearing act.
My French grandfather, a cinema owner in a northern town, was imprisoned by the Gestapo for a week because as an important local figure it was "his turn" to be arrested.
Not sure of what crime was committed but that was irrelevant. The Gestapo had no chance of catching the right suspect so anyone would do.
Sound bad?
On returning home, his concerned family asked how it had been.
He said he'd never laughed so much. He'd been locked up with other town notables - all friends - and they'd all played cards and told each other stories.
It must be added this was in 1944, the Gestapo knew they were losing and had no interest in needlessly creating more enemies.
But still, not the sort of story one normally associates with being jailed by the Gestapo!
He was very lucky. There were untold numbers of round ups of local ‘notables’ who were then shot/hanged in retribution for partisan activity,not just in France but in all occupied countries.
Yeah, their boss was a charming sport, and a barrel of fun to boot.
@@s1dfk4123 I expect the truth would have come out from the others if that was the case but yes, it's certainly possible.
@@adscri No army allow partisan activity , regardless what countrys army is ! They used reprisal for that ! Why the germans be blame for that ? If somebody shot american, or english solders ., they let him get away with it ?
@@gaborczirjak4172 So you are saying that it's okay to shoot innocent civilians, by an occupying army, because of partisan activity. Give some examples of American or English soldiers doing this in W.W. 2.
Dr. Feltons historical documentaries are the the finest, accurate accounts of war time informed available. There is no other source even close to these and I watch as many as possible! Thank you Dr. Felton for educating people who are otherwise historically illiterate!
I was like: Nah, this is kinda boring stuff. I'll just go to my next tab with a video ready to watch...28 minutes later...damn, this is probably one of most fascinating stories I've seen yet on this channel! What a man. What a MYSTERY!
Hermann Fegerlein does look snarky.
Word!! I am like, where the hell is he???
Watch the grey wolf fantastic film and true is well it’s about hitler getting to Argentina well worth watching
“What a man”... Really?
@@PP-xg1je I wouldn’t say “true” but I’d definitely say very plausible. The audiobook is on here on UA-cam
I just wanna say that when I was 14, I bought myself an ankle-length leather coat. I was very proud of it but my grandma said I looked like Gestapo 😂 I've never wore it again, and I'm 27 now.
😂😅 !
Shame they had to ruin cool 😎 coats 🧥 for generations to come
It's amazing that with so much video, audio and physical evidence, some deny these events ever happened!
Great work Mr. Felton.
In a weird way, the Nuremberg defendants contradict the deniers. The defendants used the excuses of "I had nothing to do with it" or "That wasn't my department" or the classic "I was just following orders." None of THEM denied the horrific events of the Nazi era ever happened!
So what does that tell you?
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Very well thought out points. You are correct.
@@Bodrumbum Thank you!
About 50% of all people are just stupid man
@FatalPies You need to get out more
Boy, I wished, the Russians would open their archives entirely to historians.
Still so many informations hidden.
As I know Putin extended the deadline for declassification for the next 40 years.
I wish Jesus would come back. the Devil is loose. the Jesuit Order Black Poop haha.. morons.. something wrong with man. sick-o hard to believe but then again; thats just me
@@sidgdansk6017 I wish you leave alternate reality.
@@sidgdansk6017 You need to have been somewhere in the 1st place to comeback!
they dont have accurate achives. The remains that were supposedly hitler arent even hitler. No one even know what happened to the Romanovs in WW1 when the soviets executed them. Stalin altered everything to fit his narratives
He gave his mistress a cyanide capsule as a parting gift. What a sweetheart.
On the other hand, considering the (often deserved) reputation of Soviet soldiers for cruelty towards German women, it's... understandable, from Muller's perspective.
Better than being r@ped to death by the beasts from the east
Rusty Shackleford - that answer is most to the point. The Russians had _a lot_ of payback to collect.
@@77thTrombone I agree with your point about payback, but even if the Nazi soldiers had of been like choirboys in the east, I still think the Red Army would have acted as they did. Russian armies through history have been quite barbaric to civilians.
Chas Maravel - y'know, I just returned to this thread to make a similar point. You nailed it tho.
Of course, maybe he wanted his Liebchen to enjoy the full Red Army experience.
Love goes through seasons 🍁🌿🍂🍃.
This Mark Felton production is sheer genius. An education in history.
Mark, I love the way you tell your stories. Although your headlines draw me in, I know I'm going to get so much more in depth information. In a nut shell, you always give us more than we hoped for and every time. Thank You!
Shultz was the last person to see him. You can be sure he saw nothing.
Good one! You have to be 60’ish years old or a fan of old comedy TV to understand this LOL!
@@profdave2861 I am German, 43, and i love Hogan's Heroes.
Danny Costello 😂😂😂😂😂
Muller once flew over the cuckoo's nest and guess who he saw there? Please see the answer below...haha, hehe
I know nothing!
How anticlimactic would it be if it turned out he had just been obliterated by an incoming shell after leaving the Fuhrer bunker?
@CKS1949 wild animals, and not so wild (pigs, chickens, dogs) is very efficient in that kind of dirty job
That's a humourous thought, guy sneaks out and pow bloody dust
People like this have a very good operating self preservation button built in...including hitler
WELLBRAN Lmao I love conspiracy nutters that think Hitler is still alive, like all the historians are wrong but Dave here in his basement figured out what really happened to Hitler! Yeah
@@connorbranscombe6819 still alive?....who is the nutter?..you!....I'm talking of escape . Alive!..your very stupid
Mark your dedication to thorough research is incredibly impressive; it's one thing to say "it takes about thirteen minutes to walk from the Fuhrerbunker to Prinz Albrecht Strasse", it's another thing entirely to say "I've done it".
I really enjoy his stories and his voice makes it all the more enjoyable.
@@Ronnie-Jones I wish that they would change the history books and start teaching the truth world wide this !!!! I am in shock after watching "Europa the Last Battle" Everyone needs to watch all of that ! OMG !!!!!!!!!!! SHOCKING !
Mark nailing nearly every single German word amazes me every time. And yes, I am german.
I came through here just to look if anyone already mentioned it.
Watching others trying there best on these pronunciations always invokes cringe but this video alone shows commitment.
achtung achtung! im croatian :D
I wonder why he uses the soft “ch” in words like Reich, Heinrich, etc.
It could indeed be better, but it always is understandable, and that's the main thing. Saying that as an austrian
@@lani6647 cause it´s soft in german. "ck" is the hard one.
One of the best, and fantastically the longest, videos I have seen. I would love to see these areas today. Fantastically done Dr. Even more interesting, is the number of people who simply “vanished” during the end days of the war. Mass graves filled with people, who’s identity will never be known. The end music snippet was a genius touch!
Mark, your documentaries are awesome. And, there's something about your voice that just completes the quality of it all. We'll spoken, and proper accent. No bullshit shenanigans. Legit. Respect to you, dude.
Thanks so much Dr.F. Made my evening!
Honest question: How can anyone dislike these videos?!?
@Poco Loco we don’t hide from your propaganda lies like the J left. You love sucking the chews off
I associate Mark Felton voice with good history documentaries as much as i associate david attenboroughs with nature docs
Except that Attenbourough is a far left ,biased activist with an agenda and this fine historian is not.
@@mattbarbarich3295 wow. "With an agenda", huh? You'd better put your tinfoil hat back on, bucko; they're trying to read your mind, but coming up blank anyway...
@@jordaneggerman4734 I could say to same for you.Britain will have the cleanest air soon but you l be all living in caves and under trees.
@@mattbarbarich3295 "in caves, under trees"? Dude, its clear you have *no* idea what you're talking about. Not only that, but you seem to purposefully misunderstand whoever tells you American news.
@@mattbarbarich3295 top 5 best major cities for air quality, two are in the States, one in Canada, one in NZ, and one in Australia. Funny, if you guys had the cleanest air, you'd think, I dunno, Edinburgh, or London, would have to be on that list...
Mark Felton's voice is just perfect for this kind of narration. His diction is perfect without sounding haughty
Mark Felton. I remember your documentaries when I was a kid with my Father. They were a peaceful times and I missed them for some time when I quit watching the channel and TV in general. It makes me happy to see you still making quality content.
After watching a lot of Mark Felton's WWII videos I saw the movie, "Nuremberg" I felt like I knew all of the characters.
that was one hell of a wild ride, thanks for the talk Mark!
Love the detail and dedication you give to each documentary. You always ask the questions and bring up the possibilities that others pass over.You're a rare breed....Thanks
28 min of pure history 👀👀
At least Mark`s version yes...
Mark is spoiling us... and I like it!
Not one mention of aliens. I find that suspicious 👽😄
Dear Mark, your depth of voice is mesmerizing , wanting your videos to never stop. You are a great professional and apparently a very hard worker/researcher to boot. God Bless.
Thorough, factual, and priceless World War 2 history. A+
Feltons the best channel on UA-cam. Very easy to understand and great narration. Keep it up
What a piercing gaze. Thank you for the quality content, Mark. It's unparalleled on UA-cam.
There's this one guy, War Stories with Mark Felton, he's pretty good.
U the Best Mark. Honestly, u are, a inspiration, for history buffs, like me.
Thanks, Mark, from Portugal.
"That unemployed house painter."
"Austrian draft dodger."
God damn.
This man must've been extraordinary for Reinhard Heydrick to hire him despite his ideological indifference and not kill him for those remarks...
Damn didn't have to kill him like that
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@@GenJouh That was part of *why* Heydrich hired him: With remarks like that in his past, Müller would be dependent on Heydrich's continued patronage to survive, thus personally loyal to Heydrich before all else.
Gosh.. Savage.
Well after three days solid listening to thus channel I feel a sub is rightfully deserved, late, but deserved. This channel makes me feel I'm there with the history.
a practical, non ideological person had a good chance of engineering his own disappearance. I'll give it 50/50 that he succeeded and lived out his life quietly and unobtrusively...........
He had a couple of years knowing after the US entered the war the end of Nazi Germany was certain. As head of the Secret Service, his plans were secret, along with his Secret Swiss Bank Accounts of stolen wealth from nations that were invaded.
@@johndoe-ss9bz Supposition? Or do you have some practical knowledge?
Please share if so..
That’s a fair chance haha
Being an experienced policeman, he probably knew how to avoid detection by other policemen. In any case, by now, he is certainly dead.
@@charlesangell_bulmtl
If we see how Mengele, Borman had successfully made their escape,
Reinhard Gehlen who survived the war & then became GFR secret services chief,
& Eichmann who almost got away,
then it's not at all impossible that a man with Heinrich Mueller's cunning and a computer-like mind,
wouldn't be able to rig his own files at RSHA HQ with false sets of id (fingerprints among others)
when he saw the crunch coming.
Müller was actually highly intelligent and possessed a photographic memory which is why his interrogation techniques were so successful. He simply waited for them to trip up with their fabricated stories as he remembered everything they ever said. He was the ideal police officer. He also hated the communists with a vengeance and would never allow himself to be captured by them and certainly never work for them.
He would have been extremely valuable to the CIA or its predecessor as his knowledge of Soviet operations and his extensive spy network would just about be impossible to resist with the approaching Cold War. America rightly would deny all knowledge. Food for thought.
What about historical speculation that he actually had been a Communist like Bormann.
Exactly. The OSS and Allen Dulles knew all about Müller and needed him in the era of Realpolitik of the Cold War for his knowledge of the Communist apparatus. He was used by the Americans and given cover in return, protected from the prying eyes of British, Israeli and other American intelligence agencies. Files remain sealed in both Langley and The National Archive UK.
@@simonstock4448 : That sounds like mere speculation on your part.
@Car Tifusar Read the 2000 book "Hitler's Traitor". Also Reinhardt Gehlen was on the record for 'connecting the dots'..
@Car Tifusar r u for real?
I always love listening to these analyses, and I do believe this is your magnum opus on this channel. Thank you, Dr. Felton, from one historian to another!
Im a big fan of these better than the history channel been watching nonstop 1 of the best history channel’s on UA-cam keep up the good work i always recommend this channel Hello from TEXAS
I normally save watching these for the weekend; but this time I had to, just had to hear what Mark Felton thought of what happened to Heinrich Muller. Really well done video!!
RIP history channel....all Hail Dr. Mark Felton
And Timeline.
Ancient aliens lol
Hail
This comment is made on every single one of his videos - do you guys not get bored of regurgitating the same stuff?
@@dreamcrusher112 Nope
Muller on Hitler: "That Austrian draft dodger and unemployed house painter."
That is without doubt two of sickest burns of the 20th century.
Why did he call him a draft dodger when his military career is well documented?
@@rosycandyhaven Because he left Austria to join the German army
Great work as always Mark and you have a very professional Narrator's voice. Well done and thank you.
Your videos should be required history lessons in schools everywhere.
Time for a history lesson, thanks Mark!
Mr. Felton, I've seen many of your videos. This is the most interesting one so far.
Mark Felton’s channel is better than certain “other” channels!
Things to ponder about, conflicting reports and no definitive evidence, another great report done by Mark, thank you for sharing. Cheers and stay safe
What's it aboot ?
A thorough take on a mystery. Thank you! (Although I think everyone underestimates the deviousness of a career policeman. That man would have had snouts everywhere, resources tucked away everywhere and a plan to get himself out of every possible midden. I know, I policed across three decades...)
yeah I think he was way smarter than most of them, Muller would have seen the writing on the wall at least 2 yrs before 1945 and would have put his way out into plan. I always thought he ended up working for the Americans?
I think you're absolutely spot on. This man had the entire Gestapo at his disposal, and he knew how to operate this apparatus with virtuosity. In addition, he most definitely had excellent connections, several depots in several countries with money and/or other valuables and ID cards for carefully created false identities. This man was able to disappear at any time, with ease, like a fart in the wind.
@@68majortom Most likely ended up in the US as part of "operation paperclip" and was given a new identity.
8:45 Misch wrote in "Hitler's Last Witness" that the sight of Müller was a greater concern for him than the death of Hitler or the advancing Red Army. He thought that Müller planned to kill all the inhabitants of the Führerbunker at the last moment, thus leaving no witnesses of Hitler's last days. He even thought the bunker might be have been fitted with demolition charges during its construction.
Mark - your documentaries are an incredible service to history. Congratulations.
Dr. Mark Felton hunting forgotten history stories like Allies used to hunt for the Nazis.
I think Dr. Felton has a better track record then the Allies, except maybe for Mossad.
nazi hunters be like : TIME TO RECRUIT THIS BOI
@@doberski6855 Well one is motivated by love of history, another by revenge. Both are stronger then money.
@@doberski6855 True that.
You are a gem. Fantastic presentation. Why is history not taught this way? So many need to know and study your content.
Coincidentally, I was researching Muller today, I was looking into the possibilities of him surviving the end of WW2. I believe it's possible he got away and fled. I wouldn't say he fled to Argentina specifically as since he was calculating he might have been able to deduce he would be hunted there and decided to avoid it to cover his tracks. He might have gone to Chile
I wouldn't be surprised if he went to Canada or the U.S hiding in plain sight, like 'oh this guy looks like Muller but it cant be him we would have caught him'.
Back in the day, there were sightings of him in Damascus, Syria. A perfect, extremely anti-sematic place for him to be.
He fled to Las Vegas where he is hiding with Elvis
@@0michelleki020 Spoiler alert, he's still alive today and actually is Robert Mueller. He has found a way to cheat death and is now working to remake the reich from the US.
He might have even gotten to the USA!
Wow. What a great piece of work this is. I love reading everything about the “European” part of WW2, especially the war at the East-front and all the horrors surrounding it. And also the Russian Revolution, civil war and Stalin’s rise to diabolical power are very interesting to me. As for documentaries however, I didn’t find nearly as much interesting stuff as I found in the library. There are some absolutely phenomenal documentaries but there’s also a lot of questionable stuff out there.
But the videos on this channel are not just 100% accurate, often I learn something new that I had never read in books. And that’s very, very rare. It’s practically always the other way around.
So Bravo for mr.Felton. This channel is an absolute enrichment for UA-cam 👍👍👍
Fascinating. Muller was the villain in the famous Soviet show "17 Moments of Spring". Amazing video as always, Mark!
Wasn't Muller the name of one of the antagonists in Tintin?
As always Mark......very interesting and phenomenal history being brought to light.
Love the dramatic music at the end , good job.
Same, haha..it sounds so familiar yet I can't remember what it's from and it's bothering me.
Man these videos you do are more thorough than any documentary I've ever seen.
Your videos are fascinating. The details and information you present are astounding. Where you get this information, I do not know. Respect and love to you all from 🇨🇦.
👍
The fact that he was not an extreme ideologist, as we learn from this video, he seemed to focus primarily on his work. As head of the Gestapo, surely he was most aware of the state of affairs and probably caught on pretty early on the fact that it was only a matter of time before the Allies came knocking on their front door. Thats more than enough time for for such an important figure with abundant resources and loyal personnel to divise an escape plan. Also I would like to point out that through his experience, he and his department found tens of thousands of people, if not more. He basically saw every trick in the book on how to avoid captivity. Why would he carry his identification papers with him? If he had his escape planned out, the people who would assist him have surely been with him for some time, probably his most loyal officers and soldiers and Im positive that those people got either money or gold to make it worth their while and ensure them an easier time after escaping.
Lastly, if he truly was found by the Soviets, the belongings of the head of the Gestapo would sit lovely in a display at the Kremlin.
Yes.
Which they do not... Lol
When questioned Schultz replied .... "I See Nothing, Nothing Noooothing"
I seriously doubt a guy like Muller would attempt to take his uniform or his medals with him when attempting to escape Soviets. He's not a complete moron.
If you watched the whole episode, Herr Manfeigerline tried that and was shot for Desertion. He may have only had a chance to bring himself and his uniform in order to appease Hitler in his final weeks.
A 28 minute Mark Felton video? What a way to start my day. 👍
Interesting and informative. Excellent photography job making it easier for viewers to better understand what the orator was describing. Historians did a very good job presenting actual facts from fiction. Class A research project. Special thanks to Gestapo muller for making this documentary possible!!!
These short form documentaries remind me of the top tier 90's docs you would see on Discovery and the History Channel. Loving this!
"and Müller always won" great finale Mr. Felton!
Your programmes are highly enjoyable Mark.
Since Truman made a comment about the CIA: “I never would have agreed to the formulation of the Central Intelligence Agency back in forty-seven, if I had known it would become the American Gestapo.” and Allen Dulles who was head of the CIA as well a part of Operation Paperclip, I would say it isn't impossible that Heinrich Muller ended his days as a retired employee of the US government under Operation Paperclip as one of the architects of the CIA.
Just as Gehlen.
Lol Truman is the father of evils the CIA inherited so take his words with a jar of salt.
yeah, sure, conspiracy-theorist
@@Scion-cy6wj This is definitely a conspiracy but it isn't a theory...do your reseacrh.
@@jimjim2272 um, dumb-dumb, you need to get a clue, then you need to get a grip, then you need to get out of mom's basement ...
"He gave her a vile of cyanide as a parting gift"...for the girl who had everything...from the fellah who helped throw it all away.
A gift all of us would like to give an ex mistress.
well... her fault for getting involved with him.
It was either that or get trained then fed to the pigs by sex starved red army troops !
Cyanide capsule all day long for most woman in Berlin at that time I suspect if of course they were lucky enough to have one as a parting gift do the maths
Done with thorough, careful scholarship typical of a Felton production.
"That should tell you something" what a great note to end the video with.
Brilliant presentation Mark, you are really good at your job. Keep up the good work.
"If the devil manufactured administrators, then Mueller would be the show model."
It had me laughing :D
I liked that line too. Mark the wordsmith!
I agree.
@@greyone40 i second that
Guilty
Cromwell would be the model, you can see a statue of him in Westminster evil incarnate, also a director of genocide in Ireland.
"This building had been badly damaged in an allied air-raid in 1945 -- destroying all the extensive library of files held within."
Rrrrrriiiiiiiggghht....
;)