Had a grid outage in California. 16 hours. That day I signed my contract with sun for three Tesla pw3’s. Total cost 31,900 including installation. I can’t wait. Our neighborhood has frequent power outages plus I could use it for my peak time from 1600 to 2100.
Sunrun will install a battery system on your home (the "System"). which will include: Battery(ies) (store electricity): 3 Powerwall 3 1707000-xx-y (AC Coupled) battery(ies) Associated brackets, wiring, and electrical equipment (junction boxes, etc.) TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE The Total Contract Price for the System, including applicable taxes, is $31,900.00.
4.5kw system with 1 powerwall3 just installed and waiting for PTO in Northern Cali, NEM3 . New to solar so I'm learning and so far its been great even without PTO. I will definitely keep watching and learning. Thanks for all the information
@@ZachSolar Tesla installed the gateway 3 and not the backup switch is that a big deal? I thought a new setup would have provided the backup switch. Im not to concern just curious. Thanks
@@johnesver8217 Nope, not a big deal at all. They both achieve the same objective, just do it in a different footprint. I'm sure Tesla would have installed the backup switch if it was an option for you.
How much did your system cost (including the installation) for the configuration you mentioned. I am shopping for similar system size with 1 Tesla PW3.
I am near Nashville TN in a TVA served area. Rates are similar and so was our decision. No TOU or solar credits locally. We still like it, we did 3 Powerwall 2's and 50 370W solar but due to our situation none are oriented 'correctly'. Still, we would do it again.
Meh, it's either give the money to the electric company or have a cool back up system paid for mostly by what you would have given to the electric company. I have almost exactly the same system at 10.2Kw array and 2 power wall 3's for $48,000 here in Florida. It shows that I will be paying a bit more than my previous utility bill every month, but now I don't have to have a diesel or LPG generator. Also, if I pay back the loan sooner the extra interest is erased and thus probably paying the same as if I were just on the grid. Thanks for sharing your system with us. I think it is grand!
I have a 15Kw array with enphase micro inverters here in Florida. I was very fortunate to be able to purchase the system upfront. Lowest bill I’ve seen has been $27.42 for April and also in May. Worst so far was $239 in August. But I have a 2500 sqft house running a pool pump and also recharging two electric vehicles. I am going to add an additional 3kw and two powerwall 3s soon.
Nice! 🤑 Thanks for sharing. Those batteries will be a nice addition to that system in FL. Which general area are you in? Hopefully you're mostly clear of the upcoming hurricane!
I live in California. I have time base rates. From 1600-2100 the rates more than double. So I think it will be a good fit. I’m going with a power wall 3. I have one ev (chev volt) I convinced the wife so I hoping to save a few hundred a year. Plus gas prices are higher in California. So having an ev with solar. I’m not spending 500 a month on fuel. I get to drive that car for free now.
Power outages in California is the first priority. Then offseting TOU rates. Reducing power usage by going off-grid after 4pm would reduce my power consumption significantly. That’s why I’m seriously considering buying the Powerwall 3.
Left the comforts and security of living in a very modern city to live a more quiet rural life. Part of that no city water, so private well, ergo electric water pump, ergo got my Tesla Powerwall3 just for grid outages. So that with solar put my estimated paybeack on investment at 18yrs... but so worth it.
Really good summary and nice system. Your cost of energy independence is priceless. I'm also a Trico electric customer, as you may already know the new Trico EV unlimited charge rate may help offset your vehicle charge expense. Makes a lot of sense to use this rate if you have 2 or more EVs.
Small world! Thanks for watching! Good point on the unlimited plan. Ya know, I've really considered this. When I ran the numbers, there would be a little bit of savings after the fixed charge, but I didn't love the fact I'd have to use their charger for all EV charging. Still open to it. Do you have this plan?
@@ZachSolar not yet still waiting to run numbers after free Tesla super charging runs out on our 2 EVs. Agree with you on the required utility provided level 2 charger is not ideal with a Tesla eco system. Our neighbor uses this plan and the calculus makes more sense with 70+kWh daily charge with their 2 cars.
$25k in Tampa area for 2 PW3's installed in about 5 weeks time from saying "lets do it" to the moment I went off grid for the first time. I don't care to backfeed the grid at all. I'm DIY-ing 13k solar directly to the PW3's soon. Pallet of 32 Hyundai bifacial 410w panels for $4.3k. So far $29,300 - 30% = $20,510. The ground mount will be made mostly from wood. Didn't price it out yet.
Love the channel. You are one of the few people on YT that give technical info in an easy to understand manner. You also have almost an identical system to mine (getting two PW3's to go with the existing 10.4Kw Tesla / Enphase solar system). Question - my system was installed last Sept and I got PTO in early Nov. 2023. My production chart for for 2024 so far is 8.7MWh. That is far lower than yours. I am wondering if my installer just over-estimated my production or if the Arkansas climate (I live in Little Rock) is why the difference is so significant. Any thoughts?
Thank you! Appreciate that feedback. As far as your system, you can go to pvwatts.nrel.gov and input your system info to see the annual kWh estimates. My system is located in Southern AZ and facing southwest so it definitely gets plenty of sunshine year round.
If you're short on time & want to jump to the numbers or performance metrics, check the time stamps! I appreciate you all watching the video.
Is one tesla power wall enough. I already have solar but I just went through a lengthy power outage and I want to avoid this
Had a grid outage in California. 16 hours. That day I signed my contract with sun for three Tesla pw3’s. Total cost 31,900 including installation. I can’t wait. Our neighborhood has frequent power outages plus I could use it for my peak time from 1600 to 2100.
That’s a fantastic price. Is that installed with the backup switch or gateway?
Don’t know it just says all brackets, wiring, etc. included. Do you have any suggestions? I have a central inverter
Nah it doesn’t make a difference. It’s all the same at the end of the day. I was just curious.
Sunrun will install a battery system on your home (the "System"). which will include:
Battery(ies) (store electricity): 3 Powerwall 3 1707000-xx-y (AC Coupled) battery(ies)
Associated brackets, wiring, and electrical equipment (junction boxes, etc.)
TOTAL CONTRACT PRICE
The Total Contract Price for the System, including applicable taxes, is $31,900.00.
4.5kw system with 1 powerwall3 just installed and waiting for PTO in Northern Cali, NEM3 . New to solar so I'm learning and so far its been great even without PTO. I will definitely keep watching and learning. Thanks for all the information
Thanks for watching! Enjoy your new system 👍
@@ZachSolar Tesla installed the gateway 3 and not the backup switch is that a big deal? I thought a new setup would have provided the backup switch. Im not to concern just curious. Thanks
@@johnesver8217 Nope, not a big deal at all. They both achieve the same objective, just do it in a different footprint. I'm sure Tesla would have installed the backup switch if it was an option for you.
How much did your system cost (including the installation) for the configuration you mentioned. I am shopping for similar system size with 1 Tesla PW3.
@@Futureisbright123 cost a little over 23,000. Working great and still waiting for PTO
i live in cali and our base rate is like .35 so value is much higher because it’s 2x more expensive
Yeah in CA, it's a no brainer. Energy rates are wild out there.
I am near Nashville TN in a TVA served area. Rates are similar and so was our decision. No TOU or solar credits locally. We still like it, we did 3 Powerwall 2's and 50 370W solar but due to our situation none are oriented 'correctly'. Still, we would do it again.
Thanks for watching and for sharing your experience!
Meh, it's either give the money to the electric company or have a cool back up system paid for mostly by what you would have given to the electric company. I have almost exactly the same system at 10.2Kw array and 2 power wall 3's for $48,000 here in Florida. It shows that I will be paying a bit more than my previous utility bill every month, but now I don't have to have a diesel or LPG generator. Also, if I pay back the loan sooner the extra interest is erased and thus probably paying the same as if I were just on the grid. Thanks for sharing your system with us. I think it is grand!
That’s a sweet system! Appreciate you watching. I agree with you. I’m gonna pay the money either way.
There’s no such thing as free lunch! But I’d rather lunch with a side of Powerwalls rather than a side of for profit utilities!
Your results are a “meh” because you bought your system on a loan. Imagine the difference if you had bought it outright.
@@savagecub My results aren't a meh at all. The thought that it isn't worth it is a meh.
I have a 15Kw array with enphase micro inverters here in Florida. I was very fortunate to be able to purchase the system upfront. Lowest bill I’ve seen has been $27.42 for April and also in May. Worst so far was $239 in August. But I have a 2500 sqft house running a pool pump and also recharging two electric vehicles. I am going to add an additional 3kw and two powerwall 3s soon.
Nice! 🤑 Thanks for sharing. Those batteries will be a nice addition to that system in FL. Which general area are you in? Hopefully you're mostly clear of the upcoming hurricane!
I live in California. I have time base rates. From 1600-2100 the rates more than double. So I think it will be a good fit. I’m going with a power wall 3. I have one ev (chev volt) I convinced the wife so I hoping to save a few hundred a year. Plus gas prices are higher in California. So having an ev with solar. I’m not spending 500 a month on fuel. I get to drive that car for free now.
Oh yeah. Solar, battery storage and EVs are all no brainers for you all out in CA.
Power outages in California is the first priority. Then offseting TOU rates. Reducing power usage by going off-grid after 4pm would reduce my power consumption significantly. That’s why I’m seriously considering buying the Powerwall 3.
Two great reasons to consider a Powerwall!
Left the comforts and security of living in a very modern city to live a more quiet rural life. Part of that no city water, so private well, ergo electric water pump, ergo got my Tesla Powerwall3 just for grid outages. So that with solar put my estimated paybeack on investment at 18yrs... but so worth it.
Great investment! The savings and return on investment is just a cherry on top at the end of the day.
Really good summary and nice system. Your cost of energy independence is priceless.
I'm also a Trico electric customer, as you may already know the new Trico EV unlimited charge rate may help offset your vehicle charge expense. Makes a lot of sense to use this rate if you have 2 or more EVs.
Small world! Thanks for watching!
Good point on the unlimited plan. Ya know, I've really considered this. When I ran the numbers, there would be a little bit of savings after the fixed charge, but I didn't love the fact I'd have to use their charger for all EV charging. Still open to it.
Do you have this plan?
@@ZachSolar not yet still waiting to run numbers after free Tesla super charging runs out on our 2 EVs. Agree with you on the required utility provided level 2 charger is not ideal with a Tesla eco system.
Our neighbor uses this plan and the calculus makes more sense with 70+kWh daily charge with their 2 cars.
Wow this was most useful. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😎
$25k in Tampa area for 2 PW3's installed in about 5 weeks time from saying "lets do it" to the moment I went off grid for the first time. I don't care to backfeed the grid at all. I'm DIY-ing 13k solar directly to the PW3's soon. Pallet of 32 Hyundai bifacial 410w panels for $4.3k. So far $29,300 - 30% = $20,510. The ground mount will be made mostly from wood. Didn't price it out yet.
Tampa is definitely an area you’d want some back-up protection. Worthwhile investment IMO.
Great video, just like all the others of yours. Good job!
I really appreciate that!
Love the channel. You are one of the few people on YT that give technical info in an easy to understand manner. You also have almost an identical system to mine (getting two PW3's to go with the existing 10.4Kw Tesla / Enphase solar system). Question - my system was installed last Sept and I got PTO in early Nov. 2023. My production chart for for 2024 so far is 8.7MWh. That is far lower than yours. I am wondering if my installer just over-estimated my production or if the Arkansas climate (I live in Little Rock) is why the difference is so significant. Any thoughts?
Thank you! Appreciate that feedback. As far as your system, you can go to pvwatts.nrel.gov and input your system info to see the annual kWh estimates. My system is located in Southern AZ and facing southwest so it definitely gets plenty of sunshine year round.
Zach . You spoke about battery stacking. Basically having a power wall 3+ extra batteries for storage. Can you tell me what video that was?
Check out this video at timestamp 12:47 (Question #28) ua-cam.com/video/NwiK2ronPf8/v-deo.htmlsi=kV1ySD50hdbxyncp
@@ZachSolar thanks
@@ZachSolar I sent Sunrun some of ur vids. They’re pushing the power wall 2.
Getting the solar system pays for the battery these days. Seems like everywhere you look there’s outages and huge rate hikes. No brainer to get a PW
Oh yeah. Thanks for watching, Ryan!
Great
Thanks!
Made 9000 life time on my Tesla system 7.7 inverter. 2 pw
I would assume 15c per kW prob not worth it for me then. We do have a net metering in my city at 100% back atm because I live in a small city.
Yeah, if you have 1-1 NEM it will be tough to financially justify a battery.
up against 11c electricity really put a damper on my solar aspirations.
Yeah at 11c you gotta go into it knowing it’s not really a financial play. How’s the net metering policy?
11 cents per day def worth it just for power outage protection
why would you blur the info at the beginning... lame
Jump to 13:27, James. Am I less lame now?