@@mrpete222 I absolutely hate Jacobs chucks. I lost count of the number of times that the flesh of my hand would get dragged in between the key and that toothed ring. It's just as painful as it sounds and takes weeks to heel. Anything that puts more distance between your hand and those teeth gets a thumbs up from me.
@@KenFullman Я 45 лет в этой теме, ни разу не доводилось мне попадать под такой патрон. Увеличение длины ручки, износ патрона. Хотя можно сделать накидной ключ к патрону и забыть про любые неудобства.
Hi Lyle, I have another solution. Take a 1/2" coupling nut, drill it out 5/8" and press on with a flat side lined up with the hole for the handle. Then drill a hole to reinsert the handle which will lock the coupling nut. Now you can use the chuck key as normal or with a 7/8" wrench. Happy Holidays to you and the family.
Chuck keys were designed by the same Sadist that designed the domestic heating radiator air bleed key.. Both are monstrosities deserving strict censure 👎🏼
A testament to your yankee ingenuity and American know how. Also some credit goes to Craftsman for making a wrench that doesn’t hurt the hand when applying force.
Nicely done. Enjoyed watching with my morning coffee, thanks, Mr. Pete. Everytime we modify or fabricate a tool, the time seems to be well spent. The result usually brings a continued satisfaction whenever we use it.
Good morning Lyle, What a unique way to give those old weak gnarled hands more leverage. Modifying that perfectly good chuck key to turn it into a wrench was so entertaining I found myself chuckling all the way through.
I’m sure glad you are still going strong. You are the reason I have a South Bend milling machine, bought and renovated a South Bend 9A (then sold it) and now own both a Clausing and Logan. I have so many attachments and boxes of tools. My wife said… Honey, this lamp shade doesn’t fit the lamp and hold steady. I built 2 adapters on the lathe with a tapered bore. No more problems. Keep going. You inspire us young (63) men!!! Oh, and I am making my own watch making tools (hand levers, case holder, screwdrivers and more)
Thank you for this great idea and especially taking the time to film the process too! At 64, I'm beginning the arthritic stage of my life. A career of welding has taken its toll, looking to retirement a year from now. Your videos are always informative, we're lucky to have you as the Internet shop teacher! Aloha and Happy Holidays to you!
What I did was to extend the shaft of the wrench with a piece of rod so it was long enough to let the handle I put on the end, miss all the parts of the mill that stick out on the right side of the mill head, then I welded a 9" long piece of 1" diameter tubular steel to the end of the rod. So now I can use both hands to turn the key and my hands don't hit on the body of the mill anywhere as I'm turning it. Also because the handle is so thick a diameter, it's great for arthritic hands and fingers that don't close all the way. It's kinda like the difference between an old bone steering wheel and a new fat one from a luxury car....really easy to grab it. Plus you're now using both hands/arms to tighten the chuck.....easy. Great to see your innovations. Keep up the great work.
I hear ya Mr Pete. I've had arthritis since I was 23. So thankful for keyless chucks. LOL..thinking while in bed cartoon is great! Just brilliant adaption of that key!
I am a fanatic for using all 3 holes to tighten a drill chuck. By doing this, you virtually eliminate any drill slippage which causes the shank scars and burrs. My pet peeve with battery drills is the keyless chuck. So far, not one I have used is worth the money IMHO. Give me a Jocobs chuck. Keyless chucks are for people that drill light duty materials as would be the average home owner so the manufacturers get away with cheap chucks, cheap until you replace one. I realize that a tail stock renders at least one hole of a drill chuck useless but if you position it to gain access to 2 holes, it would be a good habit. My comment is not taking muscle loss and weakness into account. I think your idea is a good one. I was considering using 309 filler rod which is designed to weld dissimilar metals to keep the wrench attached but they the same gears of the chuck would be used every time. With the pin, you will most likely engage the key differently. The wrench is unharmed. Both are a big plus for the design. Thanks.
Agree on most of your points here but I will say that whilst 99% of cordless drills fit keyless chucks with a plastic outer barrel there are one or two (I can't claim if any are or are not current models) that fitted good quality all steel keyless chuck, Makita certainly did. Moreover, I have three really superb keyless chucks in my workshop. Two are made by 'Rhom' and the other one is by a different maker, they first two are 5/16ths & 3/18ths and the last is 16mm capacity. All are on removable Morse tapers so could be R8 fittings. The smallest Rhom chuck is actually marked zero to 5/16ths and it is a truly precision piece of kit. None of the three have ever allowed a drill to slip and all three came to me as second hand although the small one was boxed so unused I guess.
Ingenious idea and an even more ingenious setup, Mr. Pete. I see you are planning ahead as well, already have the longer wrench for when it's required!
Using a ruler to check for clearance like that is so simple but super effective. This is the kind of small tip I learn from you that you probably don't even think about.
YAY! 1st Period shop! Say, you probably already know this but just in case I have a tip. I can't remember where I learned this but if you go to all 3 key positions on the Jacob's chuck and tighten at each one your bits won't slip. I tried it one time on a particularly problematic setup where whatever was in the chuck at the time kept slipping and was surprised to find it actually worked and have had the habit of using all 3 positions and snugging at each one ever since. Merry Christmas Mr. Pete!
My father, a machinist of many years, taught me the same thing. When I tighten a chuck, I tighten the first in hole as tight as I can but I swear when I go to the second hole, I feel a tiny bit more movement. So I tighten all three holes, all the time.
Thanks Mr. Pete for looking out for the practical needs of us old guys. I really enjoy the process of 1-identify problem 2-discuss options 3-machine a practical solution
That's actually a solution to a problem i have sometimes and I'm 56. Pretty ingenious. I think I'm gonna give this a shot. Worst I could do is what I have now, loose bits. Lol
my grandpa was a great machinist and died at 92 but from cancer and not ever feeble i like this idea after 3 failed elbow operations i have no problem tightening a chuck but loosening is a real challenge
I did the same thing on my bench vise tie downs. The vise rotates and there are two tighteners driven by little rods. I removed the rods, put a hex on the tighteners ( which were circular) and now it is very easy to loosen, rotate the vise and tighten it down. Never thought of doing the same to a chuck key! Great thought. I'm your age and this tip is appreciated. Cheers.
Great idea and should help with any drill bit slippage. Will offer two suggestions for those that do not have a mill but want to add some leverage so the chuck is tightened up and clamps better. First I have found that if you take the key and tighten a drill bit up you will often gain some more clamping strength by placing the key in the other two hole locations on the chuck - this also works on the three jaw chucks I have. Second is to take the driver (screwdriver) handle from a 1/4" socket set and place it in a deep socket that just slides over the key stem. The handle and sockets added length then can be used to add some more leverage to the key and with the socket and handle it is easy on the hands / fingers and not likely to slip - the downside is the socket and handle will not stay with the key the way your wrench will. The same deep socket and driver handle set up also works well with single 90° hex keys I have found - especially if you are using the long end on the set screw and trying to turn the key with the short end. Thanks for taking the time to post these videos - have a great holiday season.
I had to come up with an answer too. Since I had an extra key, I welded a broken 1/4" drive socket onto the end of my key and use a socket wrench for added leverage. I don't have a mill so your idea wasn't my answer, but I'd prefer to have milled it as you did.
Great idea, and as time goes by and the teeth on the chuck key become worn you can remove the keeper pin and index the key to a section where the teeth are in better condition. Love the videos. Thank you, Mr. Pete,
Doing it the hard way, but Done! Loved your VW 'thoughts'. Just don't forget to take it out of the Chuck before turning it On. Great video and prep. Merry Christmas to You and Family.
I am glad you made another one with the hole centered on the high spot and extra room for the box end wrench. Yes sir, I noticed it because I am a little OCD. See you in 9 years if I live that long. I am 10 years behind you sir.
An old machinist once told me that you are supposed to tighten the chuck using all 3 holes in the chuck to keep the bit from slipping under heavy loads. I was 17 then and I am 86 now. I still do that most of the time.
What a great video, and very timely for me. At the tender age of 68 my hands are somewhat arthritic and have lost a great deal of strength. Interesting that I have that exact craftsman wrench, but I do not have a mill. I’m gonna go with option B for betterand make an extension for the key handle. I learned a great deal from my high school shop teacher, and I am so pleased to have found your channel so that I can continue my learning. Thank you and have a merry Christmas.
Excellent video, a Kwik hack is tap out the 'lil factory handle and replace it with a snap-tie end you broke off when stripping forms. It's tough steel, simply cut it to desired length.
Bruce here from your Fourth Period shop class, very ingenious and timely, of course it helps to have the equipment you have my Unimat or 618 will not cut it but a good concept to keep in mind, I'm thinking the better level is my destiny.
Wonderful idea and most importantly is the great explanation and instructions. Thank you teacher! And hopefully you will later need a two foot long wrench. 😊
It's a great idea! I am 74 and starting to grasp the concept of weakening body parts. Edit addition: Just don't over torque it though. The thread ring inside the chuck can only take so much. Once the threads are stripped the chuck is ruined. I know, I have a ruined one.
I'm 76 and have lower strength and arthritis in my hands. I like your "fix" but for simplicity I will knock out the original cross bar and make a longer and fatter one out of 5/8" round stock 0-1 - turn down one end to fit the hole in the key then peen the end so it does not come out. Quicker and easier. Thanks for the idea! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Pete, you an I are about the same age. I have Nephropathy in my feet that appears to be spreading to my hands. NO! It is NOT a bad idea. Hell, with the pin removed you can even use a socket wrench with your design! Thanks! Now I have to figure out how to run my old Heavy 10 while seated! Wakodahatchee Chris
Just so you know you are not alone, I too have neuropathy in my feet and have been suffering for 15 years. Lyrica, diclofenec, miralax to offset side effects. Elevate feet all evening. Pray. God bless you my man. God bless you too tubalcain.
Hi Mr Pete, I did something like this and like you (& a million other guys) hands aren't as robust as they once were. Something I have practiced since many a year (unmodified key or not) is that when doing final tightening up a chuck I have my key (long part of the bar that is) at 'three o'clock' (if you regard the teeth on the chuck itself as at 'six o'clock) this, when applying maximum tightening pressure just ensures that you are pulling the two sets of teeth more into mesh with the spigot pin as your lever mechanically working in your favour. I first did this when I had no money and had a pistol drill years ago with a cheap chuck, the spigot was a poor fit like a flagpole in a road tunnel and the key slipped when tightening and I have done it ever since. It causes less wear too! Keep the great videos coming! We watch you a lot here in the U.K.
Great seeing you at Lost Creek..... My go to, is a "cheater" I made from a 1/4 & 3/8 x 3" pipe nipples, a 3/8 coupling and a 3/8 to 1/4 reducer bushing. OAL is a little over 6" long. this works for most allen wrenches and drill chuck handles. Also works great to make short bends on small diameter rod. Also holds hex and allen head bolts for polishing.
Awesome video as always Mr Pete, from one of your younger viewers😁 To make it even easier on the hands, an electrician’s insulated box end wrench would be that much softer and rounded
Brilliant idea. I too get good idea's when thinking about things in bed they seem to come into my head just before I go to sleep. I'll put this idea on my things to do list.
Excelent video, your idea is great and toolmakers must make like you. Better grip and less material for make this key. Thank you grand master and merry christmas
Another Great video. Thank you. A word of caution about that flash light (on your work table--yellow with COB light). I had one just like that. Loved it. But one day I had to change batteries. The batteries would not come out. If one or both batteries swell just a little they are hard stuck. I did take it apart and checked to see if I could push from either end. No luck.
I also did the rubber hose trick. Its more comfortable than a wrench and worked great for 50 yrs. Still would like to see you do the longer one in years to come
For myself I think I would just weld a hex nut on the end rather than machining chuck key...for most applications the standard length of chuck key would suffice, then when I needed to "Bubba" it I could get out my wrench and really give it the beans. Great video thumbs up.
Dear Lyle, I got tired of sore hands when tightening my lathe chuck (13”) SB…I am 72 going on 16…I took a 10” x1” 14 gauge tube and welded to the square drive pin…my hands feel great now…Paul
Drill what? I worked 48 years in a large machine shop, and would catch hell if I called a drill a bit a bit goes in a horses mouth but still a good video keep up the good work
Mr Pete, I always use a wooden file handle on my chuck keys. An old timer showed me that trick over 30yrs ago now I'm an old timer. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Mike - Plus8Precision
I think you are a genius! That is one of your best ideas ever. I like it soo much that I'm going to make one or two for me. It is so simple maybe you should file for a Patten. Keep the ideas coming. Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. KOKO!
Thanks Mr Peter, always enjoy your videos and dry humour. I have the same problem but cut a piece of 1/2" stainless steel tube about 10" long and put a slight bend at the 2" point to make it orient itself easily. Slips over the chuck bar and gives me plenty of leverage.
I would be pleased, seeing you putting in the longer handle - in 9 years
One of the most useful things my dad taught us. If the chuck has 3 holes, use all 3 to tighten. Works every time.
I have heard that, not sure it is accurate but I do it anyhow.
geohen I do this and it really works for me
I did this last year,but the wrench still hurt my hand. I put a piece of rubber hose on the end wrench-problem solved.
Not needed on a Jacobs chuck since all three holes bear on the same ring. Your Dad was wrong.
@@mikeking7470 have you tried it? Seems to work great for me. You can actually feel the chuck tighten with each hole.
You sir are a national treasure! Thank you, for all the time you have put into teaching us. 50yrs old and still learning...
You’re welcome. Glad to be of service.
Thanks from KY MrPete I learn something new everyday and Ive learned so much from your videos, they are truly treasures of a fading art. @mrpete222
@@mrpete222 I absolutely hate Jacobs chucks. I lost count of the number of times that the flesh of my hand would get dragged in between the key and that toothed ring. It's just as painful as it sounds and takes weeks to heel. Anything that puts more distance between your hand and those teeth gets a thumbs up from me.
@@KenFullman Я 45 лет в этой теме, ни разу не доводилось мне попадать под такой патрон. Увеличение длины ручки, износ патрона. Хотя можно сделать накидной ключ к патрону и забыть про любые неудобства.
Hi Lyle,
I have another solution. Take a 1/2" coupling nut, drill it out 5/8" and press on with a flat side lined up with the hole for the handle. Then drill a hole to reinsert the handle which will lock the coupling nut. Now you can use the chuck key as normal or with a 7/8" wrench. Happy Holidays to you and the family.
Forget old age, and arthritis, I would have loved this 20 years ago.I have always thought chuck keys were a stupid design. Great idea, great video.
I did the same thing back in the 80's using my laythe and a grinder
Chuck keys were designed by the same Sadist that designed the domestic heating radiator air bleed key.. Both are monstrosities deserving strict censure 👎🏼
@@causewaykayak Кран Маевского, у нас под плоскую отвертку. Вот где трешь. Ключ под патрон, нормальный. Его нужно вовремя подрезать. Всё изнашивается.
@@causewaykayak Yes, true but in favor of chuck keys as purchased, you can tape the key to the power cord of a portable drill motor (hole shooter).
Thanks Mr. Pete! At 73, my arthritic fingers and hands have tough time with this key. Your work around is gold!
Good to hear you like it, you're not alone!
A testament to your yankee ingenuity and American know how. Also some credit goes to Craftsman for making a wrench that doesn’t hurt the hand when applying force.
Brilliant Mr. Pete! A chuck key with a hex drive will be the next new tool at Harbor Freight that everyone will be buying! 😊😊😊
Nothing to say really just an obligatory algorithm boost for the channel and wishing you and yours an _Merry Christmas_ Mr Pete. 👍👍
Thanks for continuing to soldier on. You're very much appreciated
There are not many thing more aggravating that slipped drill bits! You make a great chuck even greater! Nicely done sir!
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Nicely done. Enjoyed watching with my morning coffee, thanks, Mr. Pete.
Everytime we modify or fabricate a tool, the time seems to be well spent. The result usually brings a continued satisfaction whenever we use it.
That’s a good way to put it!
Good morning Lyle,
What a unique way to give those old weak gnarled hands more leverage. Modifying that perfectly good chuck key to turn it into a wrench was so entertaining I found myself chuckling all the way through.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I’m sure glad you are still going strong. You are the reason I have a South Bend milling machine, bought and renovated a South Bend 9A (then sold it) and now own both a Clausing and Logan. I have so many attachments and boxes of tools. My wife said… Honey, this lamp shade doesn’t fit the lamp and hold steady. I built 2 adapters on the lathe with a tapered bore. No more problems.
Keep going. You inspire us young (63) men!!!
Oh, and I am making my own watch making tools (hand levers, case holder, screwdrivers and more)
That is awesome!😀👍
Mr. Pete, you crack me up. Your videos are great!
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Another brilliant idea! One of those "Why didn't I think of that first?!" moments! Now I have to build several for myself! Thank you kind sir!
Thank you for this great idea and especially taking the time to film the process too! At 64, I'm beginning the arthritic stage of my life. A career of welding has taken its toll, looking to retirement a year from now. Your videos are always informative, we're lucky to have you as the Internet shop teacher! Aloha and Happy Holidays to you!
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
What I did was to extend the shaft of the wrench with a piece of rod so it was long enough to let the handle I put on the end, miss all the parts of the mill that stick out on the right side of the mill head, then I welded a 9" long piece of 1" diameter tubular steel to the end of the rod. So now I can use both hands to turn the key and my hands don't hit on the body of the mill anywhere as I'm turning it. Also because the handle is so thick a diameter, it's great for arthritic hands and fingers that don't close all the way. It's kinda like the difference between an old bone steering wheel and a new fat one from a luxury car....really easy to grab it. Plus you're now using both hands/arms to tighten the chuck.....easy. Great to see your innovations. Keep up the great work.
That’s a great idea. Thank you.
I hear ya Mr Pete. I've had arthritis since I was 23. So thankful for keyless chucks. LOL..thinking while in bed cartoon is great! Just brilliant adaption of that key!
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I am a fanatic for using all 3 holes to tighten a drill chuck. By doing this, you virtually eliminate any drill slippage which causes the shank scars and burrs. My pet peeve with battery drills is the keyless chuck. So far, not one I have used is worth the money IMHO. Give me a Jocobs chuck. Keyless chucks are for people that drill light duty materials as would be the average home owner so the manufacturers get away with cheap chucks, cheap until you replace one. I realize that a tail stock renders at least one hole of a drill chuck useless but if you position it to gain access to 2 holes, it would be a good habit. My comment is not taking muscle loss and weakness into account. I think your idea is a good one. I was considering using 309 filler rod which is designed to weld dissimilar metals to keep the wrench attached but they the same gears of the chuck would be used every time. With the pin, you will most likely engage the key differently. The wrench is unharmed. Both are a big plus for the design. Thanks.
Totally agree on those cheap plastic keyless chucks
Agree on most of your points here but I will say that whilst 99% of cordless drills fit keyless chucks with a plastic outer barrel there are one or two (I can't claim if any are or are not current models) that fitted good quality all steel keyless chuck, Makita certainly did. Moreover, I have three really superb keyless chucks in my workshop. Two are made by 'Rhom' and the other one is by a different maker, they first two are 5/16ths & 3/18ths and the last is 16mm capacity. All are on removable Morse tapers so could be R8 fittings. The smallest Rhom chuck is actually marked zero to 5/16ths and it is a truly precision piece of kit. None of the three have ever allowed a drill to slip and all three came to me as second hand although the small one was boxed so unused I guess.
Ingenious idea and an even more ingenious setup, Mr. Pete. I see you are planning ahead as well, already have the longer wrench for when it's required!
Great idea and innovative mill setup. I'm up for the longer handle now.
Using a ruler to check for clearance like that is so simple but super effective. This is the kind of small tip I learn from you that you probably don't even think about.
Glad it was helpful!
YAY! 1st Period shop! Say, you probably already know this but just in case I have a tip. I can't remember where I learned this but if you go to all 3 key positions on the Jacob's chuck and tighten at each one your bits won't slip. I tried it one time on a particularly problematic setup where whatever was in the chuck at the time kept slipping and was surprised to find it actually worked and have had the habit of using all 3 positions and snugging at each one ever since. Merry Christmas Mr. Pete!
My father, a machinist of many years, taught me the same thing. When I tighten a chuck, I tighten the first in hole as tight as I can but I swear when I go to the second hole, I feel a tiny bit more movement. So I tighten all three holes, all the time.
That was an excellent example of an ingenious way to workhold. Great video as usual.
LOL!!! Yes, I'm old too. Thanks for posting. Always entertaining. 😃
Thanks Mr. Pete for looking out for the practical needs of us old guys.
I really enjoy the process of 1-identify problem 2-discuss options 3-machine a practical solution
I appreciate your kind words. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
That's actually a solution to a problem i have sometimes and I'm 56. Pretty ingenious. I think I'm gonna give this a shot. Worst I could do is what I have now, loose bits. Lol
my grandpa was a great machinist and died at 92 but from cancer and not ever feeble i like this idea after 3 failed elbow operations i have no problem tightening a chuck but loosening is a real challenge
I did the same thing on my bench vise tie downs. The vise rotates and there are two tighteners driven by little rods. I removed the rods, put a hex on the tighteners ( which were circular) and now it is very easy to loosen, rotate the vise and tighten it down. Never thought of doing the same to a chuck key! Great thought. I'm your age and this tip is appreciated. Cheers.
Thanks for the info!
Great idea and should help with any drill bit slippage. Will offer two suggestions for those that do not have a mill but want to add some leverage so the chuck is tightened up and clamps better. First I have found that if you take the key and tighten a drill bit up you will often gain some more clamping strength by placing the key in the other two hole locations on the chuck - this also works on the three jaw chucks I have. Second is to take the driver (screwdriver) handle from a 1/4" socket set and place it in a deep socket that just slides over the key stem. The handle and sockets added length then can be used to add some more leverage to the key and with the socket and handle it is easy on the hands / fingers and not likely to slip - the downside is the socket and handle will not stay with the key the way your wrench will. The same deep socket and driver handle set up also works well with single 90° hex keys I have found - especially if you are using the long end on the set screw and trying to turn the key with the short end. Thanks for taking the time to post these videos - have a great holiday season.
Thanks for the tips!
I had to come up with an answer too. Since I had an extra key, I welded a broken 1/4" drive socket onto the end of my key and use a socket wrench for added leverage. I don't have a mill so your idea wasn't my answer, but I'd prefer to have milled it as you did.
Great idea, and as time goes by and the teeth on the chuck key become worn you can remove the keeper pin and index the key to a section where the teeth are in better condition. Love the videos. Thank you, Mr. Pete,
That's a great idea!
Doing it the hard way, but Done! Loved your VW 'thoughts'. Just don't forget to take it out of the Chuck before turning it On. Great video and prep. Merry Christmas to You and Family.
Thanks for watching and Merry Christmas!
I am glad you made another one with the hole centered on the high spot and extra room for the box end wrench. Yes sir, I noticed it because I am a little OCD. See you in 9 years if I live that long. I am 10 years behind you sir.
An old machinist once told me that you are supposed to tighten the chuck using all 3 holes in the chuck to keep the bit from slipping under heavy loads. I was 17 then and I am 86 now. I still do that most of the time.
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Any thing that makes the old hands work better is a really good idea. this one gets an A + Thanks.
Mr Pete is the best! Happy holidays & thanks for years of informative videos!
What a great video, and very timely for me. At the tender age of 68 my hands are somewhat arthritic and have lost a great deal of strength. Interesting that I have that exact craftsman wrench, but I do not have a mill. I’m gonna go with option B for betterand make an extension for the key handle. I learned a great deal from my high school shop teacher, and I am so pleased to have found your channel so that I can continue my learning. Thank you and have a merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas and thanks for watching
Thanks Mr. Pete. You’re one of the first I found years ago on UA-cam. And the helpful ideas keep on coming.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent video, a Kwik hack is tap out the 'lil factory handle and replace it with a snap-tie end you broke off when stripping forms. It's tough steel, simply cut it to desired length.
Bruce here from your Fourth Period shop class, very ingenious and timely, of course it helps to have the equipment you have my Unimat or 618 will not cut it but a good concept to keep in mind, I'm thinking the better level is my destiny.
Wonderful idea and most importantly is the great explanation and instructions. Thank you teacher! And hopefully you will later need a two foot long wrench. 😊
It's a great idea! I am 74 and starting to grasp the concept of weakening body parts. Edit addition: Just don't over torque it though. The thread ring inside the chuck can only take so much. Once the threads are stripped the chuck is ruined. I know, I have a ruined one.
Brilliant idea Mr.Pete, I'll go right now in the garage and modify all my chuck keys.
I think that's a foolish ridiculous idea.
I LOVE it!
Merry Christmas to you and yours, Mr. Pete.
Merry Christmas!
I'm 76 and have lower strength and arthritis in my hands. I like your "fix" but for simplicity I will knock out the original cross bar and make a longer and fatter one out of 5/8" round stock 0-1 - turn down one end to fit the hole in the key then peen the end so it does not come out. Quicker and easier. Thanks for the idea! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Good idea
Excellent idea Lyle,
You can also add some padding or electrical tape to give it some extra protection from the thin side of the wrench.
The de luxe version would use a ratchet wrench with a reversing lever.
Thanks for the ideas. Your hands may be getting old and stiff, but your mind is still sharp! Keep these ideas flowing and your mind will stay sharp!
Thanks, will do!
Excellent idea Mr.Pete! I will do the same…Thank you!!
Nicely done, Mr Pete!
Good plan Lyle. I am 60 with arthritic hands and starting to feel the pain more every day.
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Great to see you back Mr Pete
Very nice idea well thought out to completion.
Pete, you an I are about the same age. I have Nephropathy in my feet that appears to be spreading to my hands. NO! It is NOT a bad idea. Hell, with the pin removed you can even use a socket wrench with your design! Thanks! Now I have to figure out how to run my old Heavy 10 while seated!
Wakodahatchee Chris
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Just so you know you are not alone, I too have neuropathy in my feet and have been suffering for 15 years. Lyrica, diclofenec, miralax to offset side effects. Elevate feet all evening. Pray. God bless you my man. God bless you too tubalcain.
Hi Mr Pete, I did something like this and like you (& a million other guys) hands aren't as robust as they once were. Something I have practiced since many a year (unmodified key or not) is that when doing final tightening up a chuck I have my key (long part of the bar that is) at 'three o'clock' (if you regard the teeth on the chuck itself as at 'six o'clock) this, when applying maximum tightening pressure just ensures that you are pulling the two sets of teeth more into mesh with the spigot pin as your lever mechanically working in your favour. I first did this when I had no money and had a pistol drill years ago with a cheap chuck, the spigot was a poor fit like a flagpole in a road tunnel and the key slipped when tightening and I have done it ever since. It causes less wear too!
Keep the great videos coming! We watch you a lot here in the U.K.
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Neat idea, I like it. I also like how you walked through the thought process of holding the workpiece. Many times this is half the battle!
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I have a short section of small diameter pipe I slip over the chuck key handle to get more leverage. I think it's 1/8" pipe.
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Mr. Pete, Merry Christmas to you and your family. Thank you for all the good life you make to us.
Merry Christmas
Great seeing you at Lost Creek..... My go to, is a "cheater" I made from a 1/4 & 3/8 x 3" pipe nipples, a 3/8 coupling and a 3/8 to 1/4 reducer bushing. OAL is a little over 6" long. this works for most allen wrenches and drill chuck handles. Also works great to make short bends on small diameter rod. Also holds hex and allen head bolts for polishing.
Tubalcain, I have missed seeing you making chips. Thank you for your great videos.
I think it's a great idea and well executed too. Just watching how you did it was a good lesson in how to do it.
That is very neat!! Time passes to all of us, all we can do is try to adapt. Thanks for sharing and Merry to you and your family!!
Thats a great idea for anyone at any age.
Merry Christmas MrPete.
Awesome video as always Mr Pete, from one of your younger viewers😁
To make it even easier on the hands, an electrician’s insulated box end wrench would be that much softer and rounded
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Brilliant idea. I too get good idea's when thinking about things in bed they seem to come into my head just before I go to sleep. I'll put this idea on my things to do list.
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Excelent video, your idea is great and toolmakers must make like you. Better grip and less material for make this key. Thank you grand master and merry christmas
Do you imagine use the hole for put a sphere and spring to fix hex key? Could be better?
Thanks for watching!
What a bloofy good idea...........full marks for ingenuity.
Mr Pete . Thanks for all your ideas. Much respect all the way from
South Africa😊
You’re welcome!
Wonderful idea and most importantly is the great explanation and instructions. Thank you teacher!
You're very welcome!
Thanks for the ideal old top. I’m definitely gonna make myself one of those.
Another Great video. Thank you.
A word of caution about that flash light (on your work table--yellow with COB light). I had one just like that. Loved it. But one day I had to change batteries. The batteries would not come out. If one or both batteries swell just a little they are hard stuck. I did take it apart and checked to see if I could push from either end. No luck.
I will keep that in mind.
Great stuff Mr. Pete. I need to get a hex sided collet holder. I'm sure I'd find lots of uses for it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Excellent idea! I have the same issues now tightening a chuck. Thanks.
I also did the rubber hose trick. Its more comfortable than a wrench and worked great for 50 yrs. Still would like to see you do the longer one in years to come
Always looking out for the rest of us here in swarf land.. Thanks for the idea Mr Pete.
I like that swarf land.
Maybe I should start calling my viewers “ swarf rats”
Thanks Mr. Pete I am also 81 and work in my shop a lot , great idea .
1943 was a great year, wasn’t it?
Best Channel on UA-cam.
For myself I think I would just weld a hex nut on the end rather than machining chuck key...for most applications the standard length of chuck key would suffice, then when I needed to "Bubba" it I could get out my wrench and really give it the beans. Great video thumbs up.
Dear Lyle, I got tired of sore hands when tightening my lathe chuck (13”) SB…I am 72 going on 16…I took a 10” x1” 14 gauge tube and welded to the square drive pin…my hands feel great now…Paul
You're a smart fellow. That's a great idea.
Mr. Pete!! Greetings from the oldest town in Texas, Nacogdoches. Another great video.
1. I believe Jan's version is a bit more practical since it can be undone and doesn't require a spare wrench.
2. Just use an impact wrench)
Drill what? I worked 48 years in a large machine shop, and would catch hell if I called a drill a bit a bit goes in a horses mouth but still a good video keep up the good work
Mr Pete, I always use a wooden file handle on my chuck keys. An old timer showed me that trick over 30yrs ago now I'm an old timer. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Mike - Plus8Precision
Great tip!
I get where you're coming from, my hands are going to 💩as well, this a great idea!! I will try it out! Merry Christmas MrPete!
I may do one in the near future. Shop tips are the best! Thanks for the video.
I think you are a genius! That is one of your best ideas ever. I like it soo much that I'm going to make one or two for me. It is so simple maybe you should file for a Patten. Keep the ideas coming. Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. KOKO!
I appreciate your kind words!
That is a great idea Mr. Pete.
That is a very good idea for us older guys, thanks! I wish you a very blessed Christmas.
Merry Christmas to you too!
Thank you Mr Pete
Thank You Lyle for this great modification, wishing you and your family a wonderful Holiday Season and Christmas….Paul❤
"Most of you are old men"
Hey hey now, I started watching you when I was in high school.
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Thanks Mr Peter, always enjoy your videos and dry humour. I have the same problem but cut a piece of 1/2" stainless steel tube about 10" long and put a slight bend at the 2" point to make it orient itself easily. Slips over the chuck bar and gives me plenty of leverage.
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Genius fix. Have a safe day.
GREAT idea, Sir! I am turning 82 next month.
You are actually a little older than I. Happy birthday.
Years ago I drilled and mounted golf balls to use as handles for chuck and lathe keys, which is a quick and simple solution that works very well.
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God bless you Mr Pete. Great idea and great video as always.😊
That's VERY clever Mr. Pete! I also LOVED the cartoon! Doing a search to see if I can find a HR image to add to my collection!
I haven't caught up to you yet, but I can see a time when, if I live long enough, that this will be a great fix for weakening hands. Thanks.