WHAT IS A SENSITIVE DRILL PRESS pt 1
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- This video is pt 1 of a 2 pt series. Also, watch this video when available--
WHAT IS A SENSITIVE DRILL PRESS pt 2 #989 tubalcain
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Don't let the shadow ban stop you MrPete. I've been a subscriber for 12 years and your videos are a fixture in my house. My 12 year old wants to be an engineer and is learning to use a metal lathe because of your videos. Keep up the good work.
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It’s good to see today’s youth showing interest in the craft trades. It’s what made this country so successful.
3:20...when the chuck was new- it would have gripped the small drill bit- but not anymore...(!)
A few years ago, I purchased a fairly light weight radial drill press on fb marketplace for a about $200. A machinist friend stopped by to check out my purchase. He immediately said. That 5/8" to 0" Albrecht chuck is worth three or four times what you paid for the drill press. Sometime you get lucky.
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Mr Pete, A friend of mine used to prototype printed circuit boards for a surveillance organization ( on contract with the US govt ) in the 1970's. I used to help him on occasion in his production lab and he used a pneumatically lowered/raised electric powered micro-drilling machine to drill the holes in the PC boards. It had a foot pedal that you'd press and the quill would automatically lower at an adjustable, precise travel rate and drilling pressure. Take your foot off the button and the quill would raise up automatically. I had never seen anything like it before, it was a joy to use.
Thank you, I never saw such a machine
This video is germane to what I am doing today. I used to maintain the last remaining glass vacuum tube factory in the US until they closed. I have some old videos of it on my channel. I still do some tube hobby work and today I need to drill some .030 holes in some fixtures to make a tool to punch holes in mica insulators. Also the cords shorting out at the end of the video reminded me of working there. Most of the equipment was from the 20's through the 60's and I had to spend a large amount of time just repairing things like cords that had word out and connections that had gone bad.
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Wish that factory was still running with the outrageous prices of tubes today! Love vacuum tube technology.
For small diameter drills when using a handheld tool, I often first drill through a wine cork. The cork prevents the breakage of the bit when breaking through the material being drilled. Of course, the wine might be the cause of breakage😊
Great tip!
Reminds me of the Cajun Chef 😂
@mpetersen6 Mas` das good ya
Yuuuup I'm Cajun
Arcs, sparks, and caffeine...you are living large, Mr. Pete!⚡☕
Wonderful machines and a great video. I like when you drill down into the subject matter. Absolutely electrifying!
The drill pun hurt me ... bad.
Lyle, I value the quality and content of your videos as I'm sure everyone else does. We all know those other flashy click-bait videos will not stand the test of time, but yours will. I think you have a winner.
Thanks, I wish I knew how to use Clickbait and I would have a lot more viewers, lol. But it is immoral, wicked, dishonest, and a sin.
Good morning Lyle,
Excellent video of the precision drill presses.
The only use that I have found for a package of #70 drills is to relieve the pressure of a blood blister under my finger nail. Twisting it by hand, you can quickly drill through the nail. Then a quick splash of rubbing alcohol and you’re good to go.
Have a good weekend and if you still have extra energy, the flower bed needs weeding.
Same here, just don't remember the number, originally were purchased to solder & resize carburetor jets.
Awesome, looking forward to the rest of the series. Excellent overview so far. Thank you for putting this up. Fantastic video quality too. 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Many years ago, I worked in a small Tool &Die shop. My first task was drilling and tapping 6-32 holes in a soft aluminum. Did not have a sensitive drill press. I broke so many drills and taps… I should have been fired on my first day!
Have a good week ahead.
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Tapping 6/32 holes in soft aluminum with lubrication should not be a problem. More 6/32 taps are broken in steel than any other size due to 32 threads per inch being too coarse for the recommended #36 (.106) size tap drill. To eliminate 90 percent of breakage simply use slightly larger #35 or #34 tap drills. 6/40 would be a better choice with less breakage for most manufacturing.
Fascinating, thanks. Now I know my bench drill press is sensitive, I'll stop swearing at it when I do something stupid. 👍
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My Father used to use micro drill bits for his model trains. He showed me the #80 drill bit, it was so fragile. He used a pin vise to drill to make holes. Thank you for the video.
Thanks Mr. Pete!
It's always a good day when a video from you appears.
Glad you like them!
I just want to say Mr Tubalcain, I have no experience with metalwork at all, but your videos among others have inspired me to take it up as a productive hobby. I will be watching and rewatching many of your videos in future as I delve into the discipline of metal machining, and just felt I should express my appreciation. People like you sharing your vast depth of knowledge via mediums like youtube are such an underappreciated resource in our modern world and I just wanted to say thankyou for opening up such a rewarding wealth of knowledge to those of us who did not have the opportunity in the past.
Thank you very much, I am so happy that my videos have helped you
Thanks Lyle for the video. I've learned a lot from you over the years. I'm a model railroader and use my model 164D-7 Cameron micro drill with the 1/16" chuck for drilling holes down to #80 for handrails on my trains. I had trouble breaking drills with my Dremel, but not with the Cameron. I'm looking forward to learning more about my Cameron. Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into your videos. LONG LIVE TUBALCAIN
Glad to help
As a child I got into making circuit boards and broke many of those drill bits until I figured out that center punching every hole kept the bits on center. I made a little jig that held a sharp hardened screw for a punch on a thin wood arm so that would flex when hit to punch material. The screw was to permit adjustable clearance. I had found that jig in a train modeling magazine to model rivets in brass sheet stock.
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As always - very instructive and entertaining
I miss high school shop Mr. Pete . Great times
Good video and subject matter Mr.Pete.
I was first introduced to small hole drilling about 43 years ago in an Aero Space job shop.
We used the Electro-Machano drill presses.
About the smallest holes we drilled .015/.018 if I remember correctly.
Excellent little drill presses and was equipped with the Albrecht chucks and are absolute quality.
Thanks for sharing.
Have a great weekend. 👍
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I used to have a number set when I did HVAC work as a young man. We used them to drill the orifice in a gas burner. Sometimes when you'd convert a furnace from LP to Nat. Gas or vice versa, you'd have to peen the brass orifices shut and re-drill the orifice to the correct size. The number set had a chart that described the BTUs of LP or Nat Gas for each number. So if you needed 100,000 BTUs and the unit had 4 burners, you'd find the number that coincided with 25,000 BTUs and drill all four orifices with that number. The standing pilots (in those days) would also need resizing but we did those by eye to ge a clean flame the right size to complete the ignition of the main burner(s). I'm guessing that very few HVAC guys these days have ever even seen it done, much less do it themselves.
BTW.. The bits were all mounted in 1/4" hex shanks so the chuck size wasn't an issue.
I have a set of those I wish I had shown them
@@mrpete222 I'd have liked to see them. You can still put 'em in the next installment though. If you have a mind to.😉
Interesting. Probably too much math & thinking for the techs nowadays. Easier to just replace the burners - if not the whole unit. Many HVAC techs are on commission, in case you didn't know.😅
@@fhrswa That sounds dangerous. Like the old Holland furnace guys. "OK lady, looks like you need a new furnace. This one's got a big SCREWDRIVER hole in the heat exchanger." Holland made a good furnace but the sales practices were beyond shady. That's what comes from putting guys on commission only.
@@fhrswa BTW, the orifices are (or were in those days) threaded and screwed into the manifold. So replacing the burners wouldn't do anything. They were usually shiny brass so easy to peen shut and drill out even with those teeny bits. However, I must admit my set had several broken ones in it. I'd use a stone and put a new point 'em when I could. Otherwise you just had to go with the next one in size & call it close enough. With the chart that came with the bits the only math you needed was to divide the total BTUs by he number of burners. I'm sure no one does it anymore. Even back then, the mfg's often included a second set of orifices. Especially where LP and Nat Gas were both very common like rural areas. So it was most often practiced on a unit that was perhaps LP but then Nat Gas became available. This was long before the 80% efficiency and up were even a thing. When pulse unit were till thought of as buzz bombs, not furnaces. Retrofitting an electronic ignition for the standing pilot was just coming into popularity. so before the mfgr's even started putting sparks on in the factory.
....Geez I'm old!
I loved your caffeine fueled video, your humor is much appreciated along with the fascinating treatise on sensitive drills. I was laughing at your use of the term "loquacious", I instantly wondered how long it had been or if I had heard it used in a machine shop video. Might be a few people asking themselves what that means and doing a google search on it! Thanks Mr. Pete for the outstanding Edutainment this morning!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow! Coffee, No doze and electro shock therapy. Glad to see you survived it all!
Very interesting well explained video. Looking forward to the rest of the series
More to come!
I just bought an Emco (universal) for drilling small holes. It needs some TLC, but I am optimistic.
My father in law was a clock and watch maker. He showed me how to refurbish clocks. He said, that in his career, the majority of clocks and watches he repaired, had nothing wrong with them. They only needed removing the old and dry oil and re oiling them. I’ve since found that true with indicators. Thanks for the video.
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Many drills nowadays won't hold small bits, so I cheat by putting heat shrink on the drill shank. Seems to work well.
Thanks, Mr. Pete! I always learn a ton!
Hi Lyle, I am glad you are going to talk about the sensitive adapters for a regular drill press, I have bought two at the flea market 40 years ago and have never used. I also have one of the rockwell high speed drill presses for small drills, that has a jacobs chuck and I do believe it goes down to zero. Good video
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Use the dial indicator to know how deep to are drilling with each penetration. Years ago I had a production job of drilling . 20 diameter holes 1/2” deep through aluminum metering blocks
It was easy to do with the Dumore and or my favorite sensitive drill, a Hamilton, made in Hamilton Ohio
For more energy you might look into taking a little B1🎉
Keep up the good work!
JIM ❤
I use one of those tiny bits in a pin vise to drill a hole into a fingernail after I’ve smashed a finger and the nail turns purple. It relieves the blood pressure under the nail and stops the throbbing pain.
@@CaptainHook-j7u red hot needle
Never stop watching until all the hidden gems have played after the first "So long for now"
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Wonderful video. I like seeing the designs of each press compared side by side. Seeing the evolution of the engineering in the upgrades as time went by is a unique and great presentation. 👍🏻
They're great. I have a Cameron 164 with a Albretcht 0 to 3mm keyless chuck. The max speed is 30000rpm
I love to see you rebuild a machine, and cleaning them up,
Very good presentation. Particularly on the Cameron’s. I was completely unaware, so I learned a lot. Your coffee story is very funny. Would be interested to see restoration on the antique sensitive drill. Thanks for all you do….!
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I have never seen or used a drill press for such small bits, even though I have broken many in my hand-held drill motor. This video is very interesting to me. Thanks.
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Bruce here,reminds of the time as an apprentice blowing dwarf of a mill when something got into the junction box. It looked like and sounded like a M80 going off.
I've been building models for 50 years. Looked for a useful drill press for 48 years. Finally got one made in of all places, Turkey. The chuck is mounted directly to a shaft with a toothed pully on top driven with a toothed belt. When you pull the lever, the entire head including the motor moves up and down along 3 shafts. The most precise and stable press I ever owned.
Opps, I commented a little quick before finishing the video. My drill press operates the same as the Cameron's you show. That style is great for miniature work. Best part is mine was $75.00.
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I have a smaller Dumore Series 37 press that I picked up which is a very interesting design for a small drill press. It has a large, flat cast iron base. The head can be easily moved up and down on the column with the help of a large spring. The quill has a couple of inches of travel. It has a universal motor on a belt drive with 2 speeds via a pulley, 7,000 rpm and 21,000 rpm. And it comes with a 5/32 max capacity Jacobs chuck.
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I appreciate all the work you put into making these videos.
Glad you like them!
Great substance! Excellent tools meets the master. Thank you Sir!
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During Some of my 44 years as a military contractor, I had the privilege of setting up a printed circuit development shop, and one of my first purchases was the Sensitive Drill Press second from the left on your little display… that was 1980 or thereabouts and we drilled tens of thousands of 1/16 holes (that was the smallest bit supply carried at the time) by hand, into copper clad phenolic board material…
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I love my Unimat for drilling small holes!
That was terrific!
Sure would like to be able to dedicate time and fix up a South Bend Heavy 10 tool room lathe one day.
Reading up on the history of the company I have grown to respect the efforts of the founders. Their names do persuade that notion.
My wife and I have been married for 35 years now. That poor tortured soul had to put with me when we were just teenagers. The tooth brush issue is one I enjoy teasing her about. It’s a sensitive subject. You just don’t fool with her tooth brush. She’s a sweet giving soul on all other issues. Just not her tooth brush. Of course it’s an easy way to get her stirred up and I often do.
The timing of the tooth brush comment couldn’t have been better and I wish Mr. Pete cold have been in our home when it hit.
My wife walked into the den with the coffee pot and poured me a cup right when Mr.Pete broke out his wife’s tooth brush. We both got a great laugh out of that. Great way to start the day.
Thank you so much Mr.Pete!
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Thanks for the edutainment . the video was not too long, It was very interesting .
Glad you liked it!
Mr Pete, no your not telling me more than I wanted to know, " I was afraid to ask" hat tip to a movie LOL
I recently bought a set of micro drillbits. I couldn’t resist but to touch the end of the smallest bit. It instantly effortlessly punctured my finger and the hole was so small it did not even bleed.
Drill presses have feelings too.
Cameron, I've never heard of this sensitive or micro press. Definitely sounds like what I need, I make custom fountain pens...this may be what I've been looking for. Sure can't afford the new ones at $1,500 on my old man monthly check so second hand hunting is it.
I've had other micro drills but everyone of them was crap..and certainly not sensitive or controllable as stated.
Enjoyed part #1 !
👍 looking forward to part 2.
Thanks Mr. Pete. I always learn something from you. Today the main lesson was that I need to review the basics on drilling speeds. I have a couple of old rules rattling around in my head, but really should understand it all better. I'll bet you have a video on that somewhere in the archive.
The micro drill presses are great, very interesting!
Thank you Mr pete. Lots of preparation in this video😊.
You got that right?
always wonderful Lyle....cheers, Paulie
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You have finally got to what I do. My most commonly used drill size is a #43 the tap size to tap 4-40 which I use to tap electronic aluminum heat sinks to mount tiny fans. Oddly I use my DeWalt battery powered drill with it's key-less chuck. And yes I have broken a tap, because I failed to enlarge the original hole with the #43, carbide drill. (only three machine screws on that unit) I have three spare taps, as I power tap with the drill and at 82 I expect trouble.
I also own a motor with a small chuck that runs on twelve Volts that I use infrequently, I have never owned a drill press. Ron W4BIN
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To much caffeine can be bad for your heart, Mr. Pete. If you want some extra energy, you should try moringa. It is a shrub/tree that grows in places like Florida and southern California where there is seldom any frost. It's considered a super food that is high in vitamins, minerals, protein, and antioxidants. Not only does it give you an energy boost, it lowers blood sugar levels (important if you have high A1C levels) and blood pressure. But if you take blood pressure medication, start with 1/4 teaspoon and work your way up to a teaspoon full. You can get 8 ounces for about $20 at your local health food store or vitamin store. By the way , I apologize for subjecting you to my paranoia. I had to take a lot of prednisone as a boy, and tend to be paranoid as a result. I hope that as a penance, this comment gets your videos sent out to some more viewers.
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Thanks for the video. Looking forward to the next one.
I enjoyed the caffeinated tubalcain, however don’t hurt yourself with too many stimulants. I am a big time coffee drinker, but I haven’t touched NoDoze since college. I can’t imagine what that combo would have done to me. I enjoyed the video and the UA-cam algorithm seems to be favoring you again. You were #1 in my list of suggestions today.
Actually, one pill equals one cup of coffee
I use pin vices for drilling tiny holes for model railroading. Mostly in plastic, brass, and pot metal. I recently had to drill and tap twelve holes in brass to 00-80. Only broke one drill bit. I would love to have a micro drill press.
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The smallest I ever needed to get (for hobby use) was a #70. The local Ace Hardware had a stand with all the numbered drill bits down to #80. This was 15 years ago, they probably don't have it anymore. The display stand was pretty dusty even at that time.
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Thanks Mr Pete!
I've read that the woodworker's multi-machine called a Shop Smith (very common) work well with smaller drill bits when the machine is configured as a drill press. The Shop Smiths have sheaves so they are variable speed and you can really crank up the RPMs. In fact, I've heard that the machines are nifty, but about the only thing that they do really well is drilling holes, particularly small holes. I've seen several photos where a man will cut down the tubular ways to reduce the "footprint" of the machine and leave it setup as a drill press. Neat stuff Mr. Pete. Thank you.
Just one hour ago at a garage sale I saw lots of tools, including a Shopsmith for sale
You could mention the UPT (Universal Pillar Tool) from G.H. Thomas, which also resembles a very sensitive drill press.
I have been searching for tubalcain every day since your temporary video not long ago. Hope this helps Mr Pete.
Thank you
I immediately messaged Cameron while watching. They are a mile.or 2 away from where I live in Jamestown, California.
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We don't call you the Energizer Bunny for nothing Mr. Pete!
Back in the 1970s, shortly after the 1976 celebrations here in NYC, I built a couple of wood ship models. I used my Unimat 3 to drill the holes in the very tiny parts I was making for the rigging blocks. It’s worked very well for that. By the way, you have to be crazy to buy those chucks from Grainger. You can get them for about half that price from many other places. I have a Jacob’s High Torque 1/2” version that does go to zero, though zero is much smaller than I would go with it. You can get a 2” stroke indicator for the Cameron.
Like any good machine, it doesn't matter what it runs on just as long as it keeps running!
Keep the entertainment coming Mr.Pete.
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I enjoyed your video. I purchased 0-?? chucks with straight arbor shaft for micro drilling, and have never had a need to use them after the purchase. I intended to chuck in a larger chuck. Thanks for the reminder that spindle RPM could be an issue. I don't own any micro drill presses, but I do a variable speed hand tapper with a tiny chuck that might work. I can't recall the speed range, but it is an industrial model. I assumed it has high RPM.
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It's good to see you.
The super tiny bits i have are great to use when you need to relieve the pressure under your thumb or, finger nail after you smashed it !
I hope you captured the smoke that came out of the power cords, it is very difficult to find replacement electrical smoke! I hope you will cover examples of how these small drill presses were/are used in industry as I have a very vague and certainly incomplete notion of it. Another great video but maybe you should alternate between caffeine and decaf coffee! Lol
had to drill a small hole earlier this week in a set screw to turn an open center valve into a closed center valve. I think abom had a lot of good videos on hydraulics before he did machining. They were very good.
As a gunsmith I just used the teeny tiny tap of 3-56 , man that is small BUT, what's funny is, the drill used for a 3-56 tap is a #45 which, seems HUGE compared to those tiny drills
Mr. Pete you bring the most interesting items to your videos.
Thanks
Awesome. Always a thumbs up for you Mr. Pete!! I find these mini drill presses really neat! Thanks for the video. Cya on the next one!!
I picked up a like new Cameron drill press some years ago with a .125-0 Albrecht chuck for 400.00, 10k 20k30k RPM. Sweet machine it is, will drill a .005 hole through .125 aluminum in seconds. Thats the equivalent of a .500 hole through 12.50 inches of aluminum 😅
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I have been using my Unimat SL for drilling 1/16" and smaller holes in stainless steel for my art projects. Works better than my Dumore.
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Thank you; very interesting!
Interesting overview.
Thank you for another great video!
I've eventually come to own a precision sensitive drill press, it took a bit of time to come across an affordable one with the lever-lift table and 1/8th keyed chuck.. really wanted a 8mm collet model but those are a bit rare.
I've tended to find it easier to drill the smallest holes on a watchmakers lathe with a pin vice slid through the tailstock casting.
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I own one of the early large sensitive drill presses. Made by Sipp machine company of New Jersey around 1916. Its over 6 feet tall and about 700 pounds. It came out of the Foster Grant eye glass factory.
Honestly I wish I'd known these existed about 20 years ago. I had to machine a bracket for a Dremel that basically did the same thing. The Dremel quick collate is reasonably precise and will go down to 0. It worked reasonably well or at least good enough for my purposes.
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Hopefully the next video will have a UPT included. I like the version I've seen on the web made from pipe tees and bar stock. If l were making one l think l would use ER collets in the spindle.
I've been on the look out for one
I enjoyed that, very interesting. Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Thanks, will do!
I'm still looking for a "sensitive" drill press and drills. I do have two tiny Albreckt chucks that were found in a "junk" drawer I bought at an estate sale. I did not know they were in there when I bought the box. So I got that going for me.
Other: I haven't heard of the term NoDoze for at least 30 years. If you are still amped up maybe do a triathlon later, then have barbeque for dinner.
Nice story about the nono;-)
At a recent auction I picked up 22 Kwik Switch 200 adapters for my Bridgeport because they included a 0-1/4 and 1/8-1/2 Albrecht chucks. Then I checked the price of the two chuck without the adapters and they totaled almost $900. I have only used the larger one and it works like a champ.
The small number bits are often used to clean out or enlarge carb jets.
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Good Lord, man, don't over caffeinate yourself!! The world needs many more years of the shop edutation that you alone can provide.
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I knew someone who had a blood blister under his thumbnail. Instead of the old red hot paper clip he tried drilling through with one of these. The drill caught when it broke through the nail and all the way to the other side missing the bone. 😢. Don't try this home boys and girls.
For a sensitive drilling situation l prefer a hand feed drill chuck in the mill where l can control the depth with the quill stop. Hand feed to full depth and carefully lower the quill stop until you just scratch the work piece. Then lower the quill stop a couple of thou at a time until you reach full depth.
You can also usethe quillstop to control depth and feed just using the quil stop.
Great video, now I'll be on the hunt for one of these little drill presses. Also, a reminder to myself to get a speed chart by drill size and have it by the mill and the drill press. Be careful with those stimulants, Mr. Pete. Look what happened with Hunter.
Good one Mr Pete. Enjoyed every part. John
In between a milling machine and the little sensitive drill presses are the precision sensitive chucks that mount in a collet with the bearing mount disc you lower by hand. I have an Albrecht that needs the bearing replaced but they seem a good solution to not have another machine but have feel with tiny bits, though not the super high spindle speeds
Don’t get ahead of me, I already made that video, but it’s on published
@@mrpete222 Nice!
Been looking forward to these videos on these presses. Thanks! Have a great weekend.
Thanks, you too!
i noticed early on that your voice was strong in this video, and that was before you explained things at the end. It pays to watch the entire video. You should do a video on that regiment. Many of us could use it.
I love my small drill press not fancy like yours very handy for leather work
Another gem Mr. Pete. Thank you.
I got an Albrecht chuck in a box of stuff at auction. I haven't checked the model and cost, but even visually, it is a valuable object.
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