@@laurenceroberts1 there's some where i've seen the Cyber win rather handedly. especially enemies like Arch-Viles due to their reliance on explosion damage literally being 90% of the damage they deal and Cybers are immune to explosion damage.
The small movements of the spider in ultra violence really help it to avoid the barons getting into a melee rhythm. And the barons seem to get in each other's way in even moderate numbers. Nice touch with E1M8 music :)
Considering how big she is, she should've had the lowest pain chance of any demon. I think 6/256 would have been perfect (as reference, an Archvile has 10/256)
I had to rewatch that first match because that SMM went down so quick and it didn't even get hit that much. Legit was expecting no less than 4 barons down given how it was painting and then all of a sudden boom
Yeah, like she has absolutely 0 fucks to give to friendlies. Sarcasm: Makes you wonder why it's so damn easy to cause infighting against her, but impossible against an Av ... :P
The SM has the most unpredictable scaling. As it has an area attack so it is stronger against groups, but it also takes friendly fire so groups of SMs are weaker.
another weekend, another episode of "Humilliating the Spider Master Mind", take your seats ladies and gentlemen, make your bets and bring pop-corn and most of all enjoy the show of the most lame AF boss monster in classic doom!!
whats sad is that she's only that way because of her stupidly high pain chance. if it was lower, like half of what it is, she would be WAY more scary. she was just done dirty.
@@anime4life209 I played doom mods that give the spider mastermind a pain level like the arch-vile and his anim attack speed is a few frames faster... and that was a great experience for me, stun lock him is almost impossible and changing targets is way faster, making him a very high threat now, and quite difficult on his own, to think such a few silly changes can radically change a boss fight.
lower pain chance by half, reduce hit box (not sprite size) size by 25%, reduce chaingun spread by around 25%, bump hp to same as cyberdemon, and the spiderdemon wouldn't be so bad.
why the fuck did they give the Spider Mastermind a >20% pain chance? The Cyberdemon is 3 or 4, considering the hitbox gap the SM should have a pain chance of less than 1%.
For a Boss enemy, the Mastermind has a very poor defence. It's pain chance is very high and it remains stationery whilst attacking, allowing it's enemies an easy target, which it turn, prevents it from doing an undisrupted attack. Against 5 Barons, it's in trouble.
1 v. 1 she's a killer though in most cases. She can be a big problem in an open area with just you to target. Her issues do come from her pain chance though you're right.
6:35 that's one clever Baron!
He still got wrecked though lol.
This was a nice even battle 👌
That last Baron in the 2 vs 5 battle using the Mastermind like a shield was amazing.
At last, we saw a highlight for Spider Mastermind as "last survivor" in a massive battle.
Chain gunners are laughing, I guess.
Better performance than I expected from our favourite Brain-on-Stilts.
(Round #2) Nevermind.
lol literally thought the same myself xD
To be fair, even the Cyberdemon struggles against Nightmare monsters.
@@laurenceroberts1 there's some where i've seen the Cyber win rather handedly. especially enemies like Arch-Viles due to their reliance on explosion damage literally being 90% of the damage they deal and Cybers are immune to explosion damage.
If it didn't keep switching targets and focused them down one at a time, it might have won more rounds.
The small movements of the spider in ultra violence really help it to avoid the barons getting into a melee rhythm. And the barons seem to get in each other's way in even moderate numbers. Nice touch with E1M8 music :)
If only Spider Mom had lower pain chance on the nightmare...
It would still loose to distance and inaccuracy
@@galileodos4329 lose, not looooooooose
Considering how big she is, she should've had the lowest pain chance of any demon.
I think 6/256 would have been perfect (as reference, an Archvile has 10/256)
I've come to root for the ultimate DOOM underdog, the poor Spider Mastermind.
Very surprised to see the spider-mastermind win at all
Quality entertainment...Thanks GG Retro Battles
_Tricks and Traps_ in an alternate universe.
I had to rewatch that first match because that SMM went down so quick and it didn't even get hit that much. Legit was expecting no less than 4 barons down given how it was painting and then all of a sudden boom
15:19 Play of the Game
6:36 That's one doomed Spider Mastermind.
Anybody else cheering when the the SM finally wins a round?
Half decent outing for the SM compared to every other match it had.
10v30UV I *really* wanted to see the HP of the sole-survivor Spider-Brain. Was hoping for a draw, actually.
It had to have been within one max-damage fireball from dying.
5:25 Even when there's only two of em, they still manage to shoot each other in the ass. Gotta love Doom's janky AI, lol! 😂
Yeah, like she has absolutely 0 fucks to give to friendlies.
Sarcasm: Makes you wonder why it's so damn easy to cause infighting against her, but impossible against an Av ... :P
The SM has the most unpredictable scaling. As it has an area attack so it is stronger against groups, but it also takes friendly fire so groups of SMs are weaker.
Spider Mastermind: Superintelligent Demonic brain, erector set body
Continuation idea dude... You needn't be looking to balance out the odds... Do ones with 4 Masterminds vs 1 Demon etc 😂
If it was somehow possible to command the barons individually, it would be well possible for even two Barons to kill one one SM
another weekend, another episode of "Humilliating the Spider Master Mind", take your seats ladies and gentlemen, make your bets and bring pop-corn and most of all enjoy the show of the most lame AF boss monster in classic doom!!
whats sad is that she's only that way because of her stupidly high pain chance. if it was lower, like half of what it is, she would be WAY more scary. she was just done dirty.
@@anime4life209 I played doom mods that give the spider mastermind a pain level like the arch-vile and his anim attack speed is a few frames faster... and that was a great experience for me, stun lock him is almost impossible and changing targets is way faster, making him a very high threat now, and quite difficult on his own, to think such a few silly changes can radically change a boss fight.
There is no shame in being beaten by the Baron of Hell. It truly is the TOUGHEST enemy in the entire game!!! The Mastermind gave it her all!!!
Spider Queens vs. Muscular Pinkies
There's still the SMM vs Pain Elemental: please set 1 VS 1, it would be funny 😁
We saw what the Hell Knights did to Spidey...
Ok, I’ll admit it. I find the spider mastermind cute.
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lower pain chance by half, reduce hit box (not sprite size) size by 25%, reduce chaingun spread by around 25%, bump hp to same as cyberdemon, and the spiderdemon wouldn't be so bad.
more hp and pain chance is enough to take down any enemy 1v1
why the fuck did they give the Spider Mastermind a >20% pain chance? The Cyberdemon is 3 or 4, considering the hitbox gap the SM should have a pain chance of less than 1%.
Appropriate music for it too
That baron using one SMM as a meatshield in 1st 2 v 5 😂
Shotguners vs chaingunners
For a Boss enemy, the Mastermind has a very poor defence.
It's pain chance is very high and it remains stationery whilst attacking, allowing it's enemies an easy target, which it turn, prevents it from doing an undisrupted attack.
Against 5 Barons, it's in trouble.
1 v. 1 she's a killer though in most cases. She can be a big problem in an open area with just you to target. Her issues do come from her pain chance though you're right.
Tbf, won the even HP battle on UV.
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SMM continues to prove why it's the most poorly programmed boss in the history of FPS games.
There are worse subjects, like the doom 3 cyberdemon
Coordination at shooting, zero!
Spider MM proves that she's not the worst boss in the game in UV or NM and people still talk boo boo. 😂