I have this same pump that was making noise. I went for a new motor and it is way quieter than yours. The bearings in these motors are replaceable and I intend to replace in my old motor for use as a spare. It has run for the last 13 years, so I got a good life out of it.
Hayward pumps are usually a bit too narrow to reach, but if you have a Whisperflow you can easyly manually reach your fingers in the pump basket slot and pull any debris from the impeller out manually. Save you the trouble of potentially having to take it apart.
Excellent video, I have a similar setup.......one 2 HP pump for my filter and another for my water feature. The waterfall pump finally just gave out after 16 years of service, the filter pump is still going strong.
Thanks for the video, was a big help. Im my case a snake had crawled into the motor housing and gotten fried and gummed up the motor. Took me an hour or so to get all the crunchy snake bits out, but now it is up and humming again.
Thanks Mine (the motor) stopped today (Sept 2024) and is smelling burnt. I can barely turn the impeller so I'm thinking it's the bearing. Fortunately there's a place in PHX that sells motors and rebuilt units - I'm thinking just replace the whole thing with a rebuilt unit.
I have the EXACT same pump and I noticed there was water leaking from the rear seal. I knew someone on this platform would know how to get that rear seal off! UA-cam University for the WIN!! Great video, and don't worry about not being "professional" with the jargon and all that. The video is worth a million words, so you can call it a DOUGHNUT for all I care. I see how you did it, and that's all that really matters. hahaha! Now, if I have to order the part, I'll be like, "...you know...the doughnut on back." The guy at the pool supply store will be like, "...you're like the 3rd person today asking for that doughnut. We know what you mean. You must've watched Hank's Garage." LOL!
@@hanksgarage_ No! LOL! I was kidding, but I'm sure they will in the future after everyone sees how easily you got it all apart! Definitely an awesome video. I'm gonna tell the folks at Leslie's Pool Supply about this video. I'm sure they get all kinds of people in Phoenix and Tempe that have NO IDEA why they have a flood around the pump, or why the pump isn't working. If it's a Hayward, you got it all broken down nicely. My diffuser has a huge split around like 80% of it. I'm a UA-camr, so I'm gonna reference your video so people know how to get the pump apart. I didn't record myself doing it, but I recorded it all apart. If they wanna know how I got that far, they'll have to watch YOUR video! hahaha! Sometimes, reinventing the wheel isn't necessary. Your video did a lot of awesome explaining, so I'm gonna give you credit for it.
If impeller is clogged will filter still work at first? After 10 minutes the whole process weakens and you could see and hear the spurting of water going into pool. Then gets really wrak
No pool tech likes to see a NorthStar pump when they walk into the yard. Even with new orings they can be a bitch to get back together. One saving grace is the *unions* at the suction and discharge pipes on the pump. Those can be undone very simply, and the entire pump pulled away from the wall. As far as re assembly, sliding the motor assembly back into the pump housing can be one of the most aggravating jobs in the pool world. The best way I have figured is to stand the pump on its nose. Physically set the pump in a vertical position motor end up. Make sure the seal plate is properly aligned with the pump housing and the locking cam is in the right place. Somehow, that gravity assist works like magic and it slips almost effortlessly back into place. Secure the housing locking cam and reconnect the unions. On a side note, at 12:02 the thin white pipe in the filter is an air relief missing its screen. This allows debris to bypass the filter. Missing screens is a very common issue on Hayward filters. These air reliefs are fundamentally useless, and I have capped off many dozens of them on assorted filters over the years. Glue a bolt into the hole in the manifold where the tube inserts.
I am having the trouble that you mention. On it's side, it just won't go back in. I'm going to disconnect the two unions and set it all upright as you suggested to see if it will go back in. The problem with it being in its normal operating position is having to hold the heavy motor up while trying to push together. It's nearly impossible, especially when it is between the filter and pipes, etc.
Fuck those fuckin Northstar pumps man. They actually tried to design those to make it easier for text in the field to put them back together they screwed the pooch on that one
Thanks for sharing, but you killed me in the first minute because you stated that the North-star is easier to remove than the Super Pump 2: we own a Hayward Super Pump 2607 x 10. I charged forward to assess our problem; cut the electrical power; removed the drain plug; removed the 4 bolts that secure the motor to the pump; as soon as I separated the motor from the pump - I was then baptized by a 5-minute torrential downpour of rain. I am confident I can remove the motor; then proceed to remove the ground wire - most likely take it into the Aqua Pool Store for their bench repair - save at least $50.00 on initial service call/diagnostic charge. Thank You
Bad thing is is when you put it back together you are going to have a hell of a time I have to use to pipes one to put pressure on and one to turn the rotator ring . Good luck.
@@weijiancong6637 what you need to do is go to the pool place and het something call magic lube put it around the rubber seal slide it back up to the pump and it will go in allotted further but what I did was take a flattened piece of a pipe to twist it back on it will work you are going to have to keep messing with it first thing get the magic line from the pool store hope this helps you.firsts thing go get magic lube sorry my fingers are big and that’s why no have a lot big miss spelling s
Been messing with this POS for the past hour trying to get the motor back onto the pump. took the electric out and set it upright and still can't get it to seat. Going to get some Magic Lube tomorrow. If that doesn't work, it's going over the fence. lol
kevin collins my waterfalls pump just gave out after 16 years, installed in 2003.....and my filter pump (same age) is still working great I guess I got the best pumps of the litter
My local pool store says these pumps are garbage. I tend to agree with GM. Mine was installed in 1999 and as of 2020, it's still running fine. Watched this video because it has started to leak water, which, after watching this video, I suspect the O-ring needs to be replaced.
Thank you for the hard work of putting it here to help some of us dummies.
Great video, very helpful, and not a bunch of useless nonsense talk. Good job editing it down to make it watchable and instructional. Thanks!
Thanks man, glad it helped ya
I have this same pump that was making noise. I went for a new motor and it is way quieter than yours. The bearings in these motors are replaceable and I intend to replace in my old motor for use as a spare. It has run for the last 13 years, so I got a good life out of it.
Hayward pumps are usually a bit too narrow to reach, but if you have a Whisperflow you can easyly manually reach your fingers in the pump basket slot and pull any debris from the impeller out manually. Save you the trouble of potentially having to take it apart.
Excellent video, I have a similar setup.......one 2 HP pump for my filter and another for my water feature.
The waterfall pump finally just gave out after 16 years of service, the filter pump is still going strong.
Thanks for the video, was a big help. Im my case a snake had crawled into the motor housing and gotten fried and gummed up the motor. Took me an hour or so to get all the crunchy snake bits out, but now it is up and humming again.
Thanks
Mine (the motor) stopped today (Sept 2024) and is smelling burnt. I can barely turn the impeller so I'm thinking it's the bearing. Fortunately there's a place in PHX that sells motors and rebuilt units - I'm thinking just replace the whole thing with a rebuilt unit.
I have the EXACT same pump and I noticed there was water leaking from the rear seal. I knew someone on this platform would know how to get that rear seal off! UA-cam University for the WIN!! Great video, and don't worry about not being "professional" with the jargon and all that. The video is worth a million words, so you can call it a DOUGHNUT for all I care. I see how you did it, and that's all that really matters. hahaha!
Now, if I have to order the part, I'll be like, "...you know...the doughnut on back."
The guy at the pool supply store will be like, "...you're like the 3rd person today asking for that doughnut. We know what you mean. You must've watched Hank's Garage." LOL!
Lol are you serious they actually referenced my video?
@@hanksgarage_ No! LOL! I was kidding, but I'm sure they will in the future after everyone sees how easily you got it all apart! Definitely an awesome video. I'm gonna tell the folks at Leslie's Pool Supply about this video. I'm sure they get all kinds of people in Phoenix and Tempe that have NO IDEA why they have a flood around the pump, or why the pump isn't working. If it's a Hayward, you got it all broken down nicely.
My diffuser has a huge split around like 80% of it. I'm a UA-camr, so I'm gonna reference your video so people know how to get the pump apart. I didn't record myself doing it, but I recorded it all apart. If they wanna know how I got that far, they'll have to watch YOUR video! hahaha! Sometimes, reinventing the wheel isn't necessary. Your video did a lot of awesome explaining, so I'm gonna give you credit for it.
If impeller is clogged will filter still work at first? After 10 minutes the whole process weakens and you could see and hear the spurting of water going into pool. Then gets really wrak
No pool tech likes to see a NorthStar pump when they walk into the yard. Even with new orings they can be a bitch to get back together. One saving grace is the *unions* at the suction and discharge pipes on the pump. Those can be undone very simply, and the entire pump pulled away from the wall.
As far as re assembly, sliding the motor assembly back into the pump housing can be one of the most aggravating jobs in the pool world.
The best way I have figured is to stand the pump on its nose. Physically set the pump in a vertical position motor end up. Make sure the seal plate is properly aligned with the pump housing and the locking cam is in the right place. Somehow, that gravity assist works like magic and it slips almost effortlessly back into place. Secure the housing locking cam and reconnect the unions.
On a side note, at 12:02 the thin white pipe in the filter is an air relief missing its screen. This allows debris to bypass the filter. Missing screens is a very common issue on Hayward filters. These air reliefs are fundamentally useless, and I have capped off many dozens of them on assorted filters over the years. Glue a bolt into the hole in the manifold where the tube inserts.
Yup it was all changed out for pentair equipment.
I am having the trouble that you mention. On it's side, it just won't go back in. I'm going to disconnect the two unions and set it all upright as you suggested to see if it will go back in. The problem with it being in its normal operating position is having to hold the heavy motor up while trying to push together. It's nearly impossible, especially when it is between the filter and pipes, etc.
3 years later and I’m having this problem! I’ll give this a shot when I get home. Thanks!
Fuck those fuckin Northstar pumps man. They actually tried to design those to make it easier for text in the field to put them back together they screwed the pooch on that one
Thanks for sharing, but you killed me in the first minute because you stated that the North-star is easier to remove than the Super Pump 2: we own a Hayward Super Pump 2607 x 10. I charged forward to assess our problem; cut the electrical power; removed the drain plug; removed the 4 bolts that secure the motor to the pump; as soon as I separated the motor from the pump - I was then baptized by a 5-minute torrential downpour of rain. I am confident I can remove the motor; then proceed to remove the ground wire - most likely take it into the Aqua Pool Store for their bench repair - save at least $50.00 on initial service call/diagnostic charge. Thank You
Thanks bro for the nice video. I burned my pump out and have to replace it but I didn't have a clue how to do that. This helped. :)
I have this exact same setup. And I work in Aerospace too. Thanks man.
What size socket are you using @8:12 to get the back cover off??
What’s your pump model # ? I have the same pump, I can’t find the model #
I have a 2 speed north star and swim line filter that is very similar. Good to know how to swap a motor.
Would just draining the motor have possibly fixed it? Would that be a good first step?
DJ Andreas you can try that you may get lucky and it’ll drain out or you may not and it will just add more time to fixing it worse case.
Bad thing is is when you put it back together you are going to have a hell of a time I have to use to pipes one to put pressure on and one to turn the rotator ring . Good luck.
Got it on and off fine. Wasn’t the first time doing this.
I cannot put the lock ring back on. The motor seems to not go all the way inside of strainer housing so that the lock ring won’t go on
@@weijiancong6637 what you need to do is go to the pool place and het something call magic lube put it around the rubber seal slide it back up to the pump and it will go in allotted further but what I did was take a flattened piece of a pipe to twist it back on it will work you are going to have to keep messing with it first thing get the magic line from the pool store hope this helps you.firsts thing go get magic lube sorry my fingers are big and that’s why no have a lot big miss spelling s
Thank you, Jimmy!
@@weijiancong6637 you are welcome
Cant get the motor back flush with the housing.
Thanks sir very helpful I have the same took me awhile to find this exact pump your a blessing
Pos is not easy to remove. Removing the bolts is easier
Great video.. Thanks.. Exact same set up as me... Saved me several $$$$
Thanks excellent video i have the exact same pump. And it's making noise....
Thanks for this video, I’m dreading having to do this tomorrow. Damn pump....and keep this video up... forever
Joe Mug just replaced my capacitor today! Quiet challenging but glad it’s done with! Good luck
SUPERB JOB!!!!!! THX VERY MUCH!!!!
what did he use to break free the impeler
Bar end of a ratchet and proper size wrench on the other side
Remember that you have to turn impeller clockwise to unscrew.
Been messing with this POS for the past hour trying to get the motor back onto the pump. took the electric out and set it upright and still can't get it to seat. Going to get some Magic Lube tomorrow. If that doesn't work, it's going over the fence. lol
Great vid, thanks not a big fan of spiders huh?
thx but yea mainly widows
Ya I got ya... We live in Wisconsin so none of them around here luckily...
So many side subjects Jez
“jez” lol
One of the worst pumps ever, thats why they only made it for a few years.
kevin collins my waterfalls pump just gave out after 16 years, installed in 2003.....and my filter pump (same age) is still working great
I guess I got the best pumps of the litter
Your pumps were more than likely, built with non Chinese parts, which they started using late 2000s
My local pool store says these pumps are garbage. I tend to agree with GM. Mine was installed in 1999 and as of 2020, it's still running fine. Watched this video because it has started to leak water, which, after watching this video, I suspect the O-ring needs to be replaced.
Spider be cool tool lmao