In 2010 when I bought my compound bow and initial arrows, I went with what books and people recommended to me for whitetail hunting and 3D practice (the light, fast, flat trajectory bandwagon). I bought Easton Flatline arrow with 100 grain points, and I shot those through last hunting season (buying more arrows as needed). Easton has discontinued the Flatlines. I have been thinking about going with heavier higher FOC arrows for a while now, and your videos were good. So I am now on the Dr. Ashby and RF bandwagon for this season. I am switching to 2 blade single bevel 125 grain Cutthroats or 200 grain Evolution broadheads and 100 grain Ethics inserts and 250 spine Sirius SuperNova 2.0s arrows. (My number one problem is still seeing deer on public land in Florida. I can't shoot them if I don't see them.) Wish me luck.
I got an Orion test kit 200/250 & 3 250 Apollos with out the field points. I'm on the edge between them on the spine chart. Also, It takes 135gr insert Just to get the 250 Orions into the 500s with a 125gr tip. so, the spine It helped allot. 250s won. The test kit is an AWESOME IDEA for those on the edge on a spine chart or add extra weight to the front end. Saved me allot of money. I didn't shoot the Apollos. But, I did just need 90gr insert to get into the low 500s.
Thanks to you I just got a 650 grain arrow set up. I used to be so caught up in speed is everything that I was shooting a sub 300 grain out of a crossbow. You definitely changed my prospective.
I got the Apollo kit and used super glue, 1 hour epoxy and cool melt. None of these work shooting into a bag target! Do yourself a favor and buy Sirius’s epoxy! This worked perfectly and worth every penny! Setup is 70lbs @ 29.5in. Apollo with 125 outsert with 125 tip.
Thank you for putting together all of this content. I'm learning a lot has changed since I was last bow hunting three decades ago. I'm planning on buying a test kit...I've only ever shot .246" diameter arrows. Besides reduced friction in the wound channel, is there any significant difference in shooting a smaller diameter arrow? I'm thinking of trying one of the .204" kits, but want to know if I'd be better off sticking with what I've been using. Thanks! Bill
Troy everything was already spelled out. I just got new d loop and can't tune my rest low enough to match broadhead flight. But I can now hit my bag out to 135yrds with my setup. Alot of Kentucky windage lol but they are like mini spears at 683gr. My arrow is black eagle renegades 250 spine 30.5" with 100gr ethics inserts and 200gr overkill massia. At 70lbs and 30.5" draw and speeds crono at 233 fps. It has wore out my target quickly.
Jhunt, what do you mean by not being able to tune your rest low enough? I’m working on getting better at tuning my bow and don’t understand the reference.
@@waynemorris1999 I will have to get my d loop installed higher because I can't move my rest down without getting fetching contact with shelf of my bow. Do to that my feild points shoot fine but broadheads still hit a little low at 20yd , 5" low at 40yd and 10" or so at 60yd. I used to think that broadheads flew different but not to gravity mass is mass. Also it was worse before going as far down as I could with new d loop. Hope that explains better.
I followed the formula, I now shoot 582 grain missiles, 17% foc 200 grain iron will single bevels. Test kit makes all the difference, follow the playlist
I got a Halon32 70lbs 28 draw and a pile of gold tip hunter pro 300 spine. I’m going with the 100 grain GT brass and I’m gonna test 100 grain and up field points. And I’m gonna make a second set of arrows from Sirius in 250 spine with stainless 100 grain and that arrow will have a single bevel
I can't wait to shoot my heavy adult arrows when my bow gets here . Arrow weight is 557 grains add the adult broad head to that brings my total to 682 grains on the vulcans
Thanks Troy for all you do! One quick question. When gluing in your inserts do you orient the Broadhead a particular way vertically, horizontally or does the orientation of the broad head even matter?Looking forward to your input.
@@RanchFairy I agree with The Rocketman. When I was setting up my bow many years ago and when it was windy I noticed how much it moved, or didn't move, depending on how the two blade broadhead was oriented. I started to set mine up horizontal and my side to side movement was reduced a lot. It's what I do now. I use hot melt and screw in the broadhead to see how its oriented. If it needs adjustment to horizontal I mark the insert with black marker, remove the broadhead and use a heavy, long field point and heat it a bit with a torch. Once the insert loosens a little I can turn it to make my mark (broadhead) horizontal. Works like a charm. For the future, maybe I'll mark and set them, clean up the insert/arrow combination and use epoxy. I've had a few come apart after going through a target and hitting the ground. I've never had one come apart on game but, other than the spine of a black bear, I haven't really hit any big bone yet.
This is a good question but I'm confused. How are you supposed to insert tune with broadheads, if they're supposed to be oriented a certain way? Am I missing something?
@@TheDonsRiche Don’t sweat this small detail - this is why I have to be careful about small things. Perfect bare shaft (EVERY ARROW) and nock tune SOLVES.
I like your test kit. It gives me some good components to figure things out. The first conclusions from testing were clear (since all three of the choices I preferred to shoot were nock right I needed to move my rest left), but after a couple of adjustments, I am now down to some decisions, which I will get through. Anyway, thanks for putting the kit together.
I assume that means long bow? And no. 550-650 is adult. If it is a longbow see Ranch Fairy Traditional video. Its' a bit different process. But well worth it.
@@jodyfrasnelli8928 ua-cam.com/play/PLsLRIsmsaiq4wKlM3WrrYZXa0xI4YtXM8.html See that playlist. video 1 and 2. 250 Spine arrows, 100 grain insert, 125 or heavier head. Search the Ranch Fairy store for the arrows. Holler at me on email with Questions Troy@ranchfairy.com
Not everyone knows this, cyanoacrilate "super glue" MELTS! :) You have to get it hotter than "hotmelt" glue, but it does liquify neatly without burning or even discoloring at temperatures way lower than the epoxy in the carbon shaft. Boy does it hold better than hotmelt! I've got a target with at least a dozen points and inserts with hotmelt glue somewhere inside it.
How wud ur system work out west where shot range from 20 to 70 yards a 600 grain arrow won't have the range unless ur 75 pound and 29 inch draw or more
@@RanchFairy can’t wait for the pointy hat discussion on the math for this. Trajectory and sight low enough without hitting the fletchings are the next topics needing to be covered in the adult arrow discussion.
@@RanchFairy true for sure. I guess I would like to know what you would recommend to guys who are here in AZ hunting coues deer like you did. What tactics and/or gear changes would you make next time?
Oh - that is already being done The KE and speed erosion over adult distance is gonna make peoples heads pop off “Liars can figure, figures don’t lie” Stay tuned
In 2010 when I bought my compound bow and initial arrows, I went with what books and people recommended to me for whitetail hunting and 3D practice (the light, fast, flat trajectory bandwagon). I bought Easton Flatline arrow with 100 grain points, and I shot those through last hunting season (buying more arrows as needed). Easton has discontinued the Flatlines. I have been thinking about going with heavier higher FOC arrows for a while now, and your videos were good. So I am now on the Dr. Ashby and RF bandwagon for this season. I am switching to 2 blade single bevel 125 grain Cutthroats or 200 grain Evolution broadheads and 100 grain Ethics inserts and 250 spine Sirius SuperNova 2.0s arrows. (My number one problem is still seeing deer on public land in Florida. I can't shoot them if I don't see them.) Wish me luck.
Buuut. Plenty of pigs!!!
I got an Orion test kit 200/250 & 3 250 Apollos with out the field points. I'm on the edge between them on the spine chart. Also, It takes 135gr insert Just to get the 250 Orions into the 500s with a 125gr tip. so, the spine It helped allot. 250s won. The test kit is an AWESOME IDEA for those on the edge on a spine chart or add extra weight to the front end. Saved me allot of money. I didn't shoot the Apollos. But, I did just need 90gr insert to get into the low 500s.
Thanks to you I just got a 650 grain arrow set up. I used to be so caught up in speed is everything that I was shooting a sub 300 grain out of a crossbow. You definitely changed my prospective.
Got myself all set on the test kit! Waiting for 200 spine Apollos to come back in stock. I check every morning.
I wanted those ended up going with the 200 spine Vulcan arrows my self
Pro trick : watch movies on flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies recently.
@Darian Max definitely, been using flixzone for since november myself :)
Thanks for the great videos and information. Screw the Haters. You have done more for the Bowhunting community than most could ever dream of.
Best archery channel on u tube
I got the Apollo kit and used super glue, 1 hour epoxy and cool melt. None of these work shooting into a bag target! Do yourself a favor and buy Sirius’s epoxy! This worked perfectly and worth every penny! Setup is 70lbs @ 29.5in. Apollo with 125 outsert with 125 tip.
What spine and what total weight and foc did you end up at.
Test Kit Works! Bare-shafted Bullet holes!
We have ranch fairy arrows to make an exact match!!!!
Thank you for putting together all of this content. I'm learning a lot has changed since I was last bow hunting three decades ago. I'm planning on buying a test kit...I've only ever shot .246" diameter arrows. Besides reduced friction in the wound channel, is there any significant difference in shooting a smaller diameter arrow? I'm thinking of trying one of the .204" kits, but want to know if I'd be better off sticking with what I've been using. Thanks! Bill
@@williambuckner818
Watch this
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Hit me on email troy@ranchfairy.com for arrow FLIGHT help!
Thank you for the best advice I have ever heard.
Troy everything was already spelled out. I just got new d loop and can't tune my rest low enough to match broadhead flight. But I can now hit my bag out to 135yrds with my setup. Alot of Kentucky windage lol but they are like mini spears at 683gr. My arrow is black eagle renegades 250 spine 30.5" with 100gr ethics inserts and 200gr overkill massia. At 70lbs and 30.5" draw and speeds crono at 233 fps. It has wore out my target quickly.
Jhunt, what do you mean by not being able to tune your rest low enough? I’m working on getting better at tuning my bow and don’t understand the reference.
@@waynemorris1999 I will have to get my d loop installed higher because I can't move my rest down without getting fetching contact with shelf of my bow. Do to that my feild points shoot fine but broadheads still hit a little low at 20yd , 5" low at 40yd and 10" or so at 60yd. I used to think that broadheads flew different but not to gravity mass is mass. Also it was worse before going as far down as I could with new d loop. Hope that explains better.
I followed the formula, I now shoot 582 grain missiles, 17% foc 200 grain iron will single bevels. Test kit makes all the difference, follow the playlist
Great information. Looking forward to your video with The Rocket Man.
I got a Halon32 70lbs 28 draw and a pile of gold tip hunter pro 300 spine. I’m going with the 100 grain GT brass and I’m gonna test 100 grain and up field points. And I’m gonna make a second set of arrows from Sirius in 250 spine with stainless 100 grain and that arrow will have a single bevel
Fire nocks epoxy is so insanely good. Stuff is awesome. And it lasts forever. Only takes a little dab
You can use boiling water to reheat the glue to remove the inserts.
I really appreciate your help and advice. Keep up your study and I will keep looking forward to seeing your info! If I could help I'd do it
I can't wait to shoot my heavy adult arrows when my bow gets here . Arrow weight is 557 grains add the adult broad head to that brings my total to 682 grains on the vulcans
Thanks Troy for all you do! One quick question. When gluing in your inserts do you orient the Broadhead a particular way vertically, horizontally or does the orientation of the broad head even matter?Looking forward to your input.
I’ve not paid it any attention
BUT THE ROCKETMAN says - horizontal should be the best position
@@RanchFairy I agree with The Rocketman. When I was setting up my bow many years ago and when it was windy I noticed how much it moved, or didn't move, depending on how the two blade broadhead was oriented. I started to set mine up horizontal and my side to side movement was reduced a lot. It's what I do now. I use hot melt and screw in the broadhead to see how its oriented. If it needs adjustment to horizontal I mark the insert with black marker, remove the broadhead and use a heavy, long field point and heat it a bit with a torch. Once the insert loosens a little I can turn it to make my mark (broadhead) horizontal. Works like a charm. For the future, maybe I'll mark and set them, clean up the insert/arrow combination and use epoxy. I've had a few come apart after going through a target and hitting the ground. I've never had one come apart on game but, other than the spine of a black bear, I haven't really hit any big bone yet.
@@davemeise2192 rocketman says it reduces lift and yaw. Oh my
This is a good question but I'm confused. How are you supposed to insert tune with broadheads, if they're supposed to be oriented a certain way? Am I missing something?
@@TheDonsRiche
Don’t sweat this small detail - this is why I have to be careful about small things.
Perfect bare shaft (EVERY ARROW) and nock tune SOLVES.
I'm ready for an Elite compound but this is great info for my crossbow too!...dang Coach,...lay off the weight bench before you need a bigger lens!!
Hahah -
How do you know what kit to go with?
I like your test kit. It gives me some good components to figure things out. The first conclusions from testing were clear (since all three of the choices I preferred to shoot were nock right I needed to move my rest left), but after a couple of adjustments, I am now down to some decisions, which I will get through. Anyway, thanks for putting the kit together.
Are 400 grain arrows a good starting point for an adult arrow I'm 68 years old and shooting 29 in at 65 lbs on an iglow bow
I assume that means long bow?
And no. 550-650 is adult.
If it is a longbow see Ranch Fairy Traditional video. Its' a bit different process. But well worth it.
@@RanchFairy no it's a compound bow
@@jodyfrasnelli8928 ua-cam.com/play/PLsLRIsmsaiq4wKlM3WrrYZXa0xI4YtXM8.html
See that playlist. video 1 and 2.
250 Spine arrows, 100 grain insert, 125 or heavier head. Search the Ranch Fairy store for the arrows.
Holler at me on email with Questions
Troy@ranchfairy.com
Paintless dent repair hot glue works fantastic.
Thanks Troy
More vids Troy!!
Highlight of this video: 13:45
What spins arrow should I get with a 29” draw length and 65 pounds?
250/300 option
Awesome!
Put 525 up front and.... hahahahah!
it doesn’t stop !!!
Not everyone knows this, cyanoacrilate "super glue" MELTS! :) You have to get it hotter than "hotmelt" glue, but it does liquify neatly without burning or even discoloring at temperatures way lower than the epoxy in the carbon shaft. Boy does it hold better than hotmelt! I've got a target with at least a dozen points and inserts with hotmelt glue somewhere inside it.
Depends what you use it on. If there's any amount of pith left in a real feather fletching, you gotta put that shit on in layers lmao
I use an industrial heat gun for installation and removal of inserts.
Borrowing that
@@RanchFairy Be my guest!!!
What spine for a 28” draw at 60lbs?
300 spine
100 insert
125 point
How wud ur system work out west where shot range from 20 to 70 yards a 600 grain arrow won't have the range unless ur 75 pound and 29 inch draw or more
I'm fixing to find out my self I built some heavy arrows for Deer and Elk hunting out west . My total arrow weight is at 682 grains off an 80lb bow
I’ve always wondered about penetration at 60 yards - not hitting them. Rangefinder and practice
But an arrow that can’t do the job?
Stay tuned
@@RanchFairy can’t wait for the pointy hat discussion on the math for this. Trajectory and sight low enough without hitting the fletchings are the next topics needing to be covered in the adult arrow discussion.
@@AZHighlandHomestead
We could learn to hunt and get closer.......
@@RanchFairy true for sure. I guess I would like to know what you would recommend to guys who are here in AZ hunting coues deer like you did. What tactics and/or gear changes would you make next time?
I dont even bother cutting the insert, 100 grain insert and 125 grain broadheads. Flies beautiful but i will play with 150 and 200 grain field points
My man!!!
Just FYI, the Super Nova's are not yet on the Sirius website under the Ranch Fairy link...
There has been a technical glitch keeping them from showing up. They should be up by 2 pm eastern today.
Can you do a video on shooting adult yardage?
Oh - that is already being done
The KE and speed erosion over adult distance is gonna make peoples heads pop off
“Liars can figure, figures don’t lie”
Stay tuned
@@RanchFairy is this the one Seth at Sirius mentioned working with dopler raidar and a scientist
@@RobertKearl-Outdoor-Adventures
Yes and one RF
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Wow people need to be told to get their arrows cut to length and glue the nocks in! Just wow
Easy man. Lots of beginners
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Lmfao, its crazy the things that some people do.....
Hmmm...a buddy of mine; his ex-wife was named "Sissy." I wonder if that made her a flapper...
Hmmmm