Do Genetics Play A Role In Strongman?

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  • Опубліковано 27 лют 2023
  • Join us in this video as we delve into the role of genetics in determining success as a strongman. We'll be exploring the impact of inherited traits on physical performance and providing valuable insights on how to optimize your training based on your unique genetic makeup.
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  • @TheodorMarTV
    @TheodorMarTV Рік тому +66

    I'm 208cm 6'10 and was always very weak, I couldnt even do one pushup when I was 16 and weighed only around 87kg 191lbs. So tall, light and very weak. But I put in the work and have managed to gain 88kg 194lbs since I started strongman, so now I weigh 175kg 385lbs at 208cm 6'10 and last year I got 3rd at the Strongest Man in Iceland. Coming for the title this year baby! Genetics made me tall but very weak so Im proud to have overcome that solely through hard work 🙏 A lot of things are possible through hard work but this video was very educational!

    • @D9Wx
      @D9Wx Рік тому

      U got a great frame then but maybe not explosive and athletic? Steroids will help fill out that frame and u know;D. Keep going at it. Fun to see icelandic giants.

    • @TheodorMarTV
      @TheodorMarTV Рік тому +3

      @@D9Wx I would say Im reasonably athletic ☺️ but thank you. I enjoy entertaining

    • @peterlovric5688
      @peterlovric5688 Рік тому +2

      this here is theodor he is very cool and has nice cats. I really love his cats i also dreamed 1 time of the big fat cat he has i think its the female one. Iam the annoying guy in his commentarys always but i know it by myself. I watch theodors videos already many years and i follow him on instagram. He trained sometimes with hafthor so that makes him even more cool. I was always skinny 188cm with 52 kg bodyweight but now i have 105 kg. Iam getting stroinger and its going up. Genetik is defently the most important thing in my eyes to be a pro strongman, but many people think they weak because they not strong at beginning. Some people are getting only really super strong, when thery gain bodyweight. Some people are from beginning strong also with lower bodyweight, but they didnt get strong later. Iam Peter and iam a little bit crazy

    • @Chronoxidex
      @Chronoxidex Рік тому

      Very nice to hear that!!

    • @absitinvidia3948
      @absitinvidia3948 Рік тому

      You need to train and thats it i am 193 cm i was at one part of my life 86 kg ripped i was 81kg skiny fat, i was also 102 kg ripped and i was 126kg stromg and fat. You can change a lot, you just need to be presistant eat train and rest, my weight jumps were never cosistent, i would jump sometimes 20kg in a year sometimes i could not gain more than 5 kg per year, sometimes i would lose weight and i would do all the same. Youst dont give up, now i was never in strenght sports or body building i was training boxing and i would do weight training for month or 2 per year when i slowed down ond boxing and started doing more weight training i would start gaining muscle lot of faster. Now i could not progress with all muscles the same pace, my neck and traps grow what ever i do my lats little slower and my chest super slow. I never managed to get calves untill i hited 120kg body weight, my qudriceps and hamstrings get stronger but they dont grow too much in size, etc...
      You just need to train eat and rest you will get bigger relativly fast, on your genetics depends how much you can grow but you should easyly get to 100kg lean without big effort. To bigger and lean after 100kg it takes lot of effort. But to 100kg you can get prety fast

  • @danb2083
    @danb2083 Рік тому +4

    I'd like some of those Mark Felix genes, making me immune from aging and muscle fatigue.

  • @GODOFHELLFIRE3
    @GODOFHELLFIRE3 Рік тому +31

    Strongman is probably just about the single most genetics-dependent sport there is IMO. Being tall; having a large, heavily-built frame; having thick, beefy joints and tendons. Even things like being able to eat a full-sized meal every three hours, being able to do all-out strength-training twice a day, and ultimately being able to walk around and exist at four-hundred pounds without feeling constantly ill and in pain.
    More than any other sport, the guys at the elite level of strongman are one-in-a-million freaks of nature, it's truly wild.

    • @OpenBarGarage
      @OpenBarGarage Рік тому +5

      And that's why it's an awesome sport to follow. Someone that doesn't have their genetics could never reach their level. I like that I can't relate to these guys. I don't want to see average guys that just worked hard their whole lives. Give me the monsters!

    • @MCJOHNSON95
      @MCJOHNSON95 Рік тому +1

      In General I'm built very well for it compared to most people. 6,3 240lbs, explosive. But I cannot compete with these 6,6 endomorphs who naturally weigh 300 pounds and can bench 400+ pounds.

    • @MCJOHNSON95
      @MCJOHNSON95 Рік тому +1

      I was a good linebacker though.

  • @branominal8564
    @branominal8564 Рік тому +6

    Genetics are a huge part of anything. People like to say it's all hard work, and hard work can definitely take most people beyond someone who is naturally gifted but doesn't work hard, but someone with good genetics could reach a higher level in a year than someone with poor genetics could achieve with a lifetime of effort.
    Also, I know it's not really something people like to talk about, but there's also the response to drugs which will be largely genetically predetermined. You could take all the juice in the world and end up a mediocre bloated mess, while someone else can run low doses and achieve a lot more.

  • @DustyNuggetsStrongMan
    @DustyNuggetsStrongMan 10 місяців тому +2

    Im 5'9 and naturally I was around 54kg in bodyweight, I've always been very strong given my size and when I started training i was deadlifting 93kg out of the gate as well as benching 61kg and squatting 77kg, after several years training I've gained 36kg which makes me 5'9 and 90kg, now I'm deadlifting 250kg, benching 152kg, and Squatting 215kg

  • @cameronhutchison4610
    @cameronhutchison4610 Рік тому +23

    Glad to see someone say this. I hate when people just say you can just overcome genetics with hard work. Great genetics+hard work always beats worse genetics+hard work and at the elite levels you can’t overcome bad or average genetics.

    • @maticsimonic9673
      @maticsimonic9673 Рік тому +5

      You can overcome a lot, but you won’t be a champion

    • @kylerBD
      @kylerBD Рік тому +2

      @@maticsimonic9673 good point brother, a person with poor genetics can still be stronger than 95% of men. It just takes extreme unbelievable dedication.

    • @andytap560
      @andytap560 Рік тому +1

      Ive trained hard and eaten well for years and look ok,6’2” 205 with very skinny genes,some people that have never trained before look better then i ever could after a month of training,you have to have hard work and discipline but you cannot change your genetics and have to look at your own results and progress.

    • @maticsimonic9673
      @maticsimonic9673 Рік тому +1

      @@andytap560 sucks man, glad you still lift, many would have quit in your place

  • @fredkemp1444
    @fredkemp1444 Рік тому +39

    Great video. I'm 6' 4" the heaviest I have ever been is 218 pounds. My body likes to stay at 193. I push push push gain 15 or so pounds and when I back off the weight falls off. I am 48 now so huge weight gains are no longer a goal. But I love strongman sport and I love training like a strongman. I train alone in my barn so I have always been the strongest guy in my gym 😀. Good luck next week. I will be there watching live! Going to be awesome.

    • @TheKruxed
      @TheKruxed Рік тому +1

      I'm 6ft6 and its almost impossible for me to get below 215lbs while skinny lol funny how that works

    • @trexitooo
      @trexitooo Рік тому +2

      Im the opposite😂, 5'7 213lbs

  • @mancallednobody
    @mancallednobody Рік тому +16

    This is mostly about phenotypic genetic determination. I’d love to see a video on genotypic determination - tolerance to PEDs, rate of recovery, etc.

    • @cromdevotee449
      @cromdevotee449 Рік тому +11

      Those are still phenotypes, as they are both examples of expressions of genotypes. To get into genotypes, you have to actually look as specific named genes across both chromosomes.

  • @ashruthreddy5561
    @ashruthreddy5561 Рік тому +1

    Absolutely loved learning about the mechanics of lifting!

  • @boom-bm1kl
    @boom-bm1kl Рік тому +5

    Absolutely. If I miss the gym for 3-4 days I look at myself in the mirror and am like "Do you even lift bro"... Then I go back and feel like I regressed about a month. My buddy misses the gym for a week or two,some how looks bigger and he goes back and is the same strength or stronger 😤

    • @user-zq1zo5dc9g
      @user-zq1zo5dc9g Рік тому +2

      Your buddy might be getting extra help in the dark

    • @mattholt5063
      @mattholt5063 Рік тому

      I have a friend like that too. He’s clean. A natural freak. If he was willing to do PEDs I think he could have done pretty well in strongman.

    • @maciejguzek3442
      @maciejguzek3442 Рік тому

      I wouldn't be surprised at all if it's only the matter of how you perceive yourself (criticism) versus others (exaggeration/overestimation of their actual capabilities). Wouldn't be surprised at all if your buddy had actually IDENTICAL thoughts that you have (inversed to yours, that it).

  • @ValathorGT
    @ValathorGT Рік тому +5

    Man this is incredible information. I’m just getting into the sport as a hobby and this is where I’ll be going to get educated on all things strongman. Congrats on the Arnold Classic win!

  • @PedroMigBraga
    @PedroMigBraga Рік тому +1

    Master class for free. Thank you so much!

  • @Benjamin-Hering
    @Benjamin-Hering 10 місяців тому

    Great explanations! The efficiency of a muscle depending on its insertion is brilliant, and showcasing it on the laptop lid is brilliant!

  • @freekout1
    @freekout1 Рік тому +2

    31, 5 11, 265 (visible abs and not fat!) and not on gear, seriously considering getting into the sport! plan is to find a couple local shows once i get my pressing strength up more (my biggest weakness) and see if i enjoy it enough for it to be worth on it to hop on stuff and see how far i can go!

  • @DamenJoost
    @DamenJoost Рік тому

    Cool insights. I have trained for ages, in the gym but also as a hobby-runner, a slightly more serious (but not competitive) swimmer and an underwaterhockey player. I often notice that I'm not quite as strong , as fast, running as far, as other people who specialize in one of those disciplines. Took me some time to be OK with that. It also takes longer to improve, for example, my deadlift because I usually go running the day before and swimming the day after. Don't be too tough on yourself, your genetics, do what you love and what you can maintain :)

  • @harrisashraff
    @harrisashraff Рік тому

    Really good explanation. Started my Strong Man and now I understand why I am good with pressing events compared to pulling events.

  • @misterc5783
    @misterc5783 Рік тому +2

    It’s the pies that are holding me back.

  • @mattholt5063
    @mattholt5063 Рік тому +1

    Great vid. Genetics is for sure the most important company. It sets determines your potential. Hard work and the rest of the ingredients dictate whether you reach that potential.

  • @Fitin10nation
    @Fitin10nation Рік тому

    Great video Mitchell! Thank you!

  • @stokiemanbrent4200
    @stokiemanbrent4200 Рік тому +9

    Mitchell who would you say has the best overall genetics for strongman? I'd say one of Zydrunas, Hafthor or Shaw
    Zydrunas for his longevity
    Hafthor for absolute peak brute strength across all events & having the biggest frame to support the most amount of muscle tissue
    Shaw for a mix of both Z's longevity & Hafthor's peak strength/muscular genetics

    • @MichaelBrown-wx6zq
      @MichaelBrown-wx6zq Рік тому

      How about Marius, JPS, Kazz & Novikov. All well proportioned men who overcame 2m tall mass monsters

  • @gibsonatorhb6691
    @gibsonatorhb6691 Рік тому

    This was great man. Very accurate as well. It's nice to have someone in the sport with your background. Currently working on my bachelor's in Kimesiology

  • @lukebbuff
    @lukebbuff Рік тому +1

    In regards to your question about how much of a role genetics play in strongman I think it exists in an interesting middle space where they are very important but not maximally so. This is because (in my estimation) there are two dimensions to determine the importance of genetics in a sport.
    1. What is the relative importance of skill, physical prowess, and knowledge or tactics in a sport? On one end of the spectrum is a sport like running or Powerlifting, when’re physical attributes are essentially the entirety of the sports. On the other might be something like golf where knowledge of the game and acquired skills can take a person very far with mediocre athletic qualities.
    Strongman is pretty highly biased to the physical side, though the variety of events makes it less so than a few other sports.
    2. The maturity of a sport in terms of money and popularity(and thus depth of the talent pool) determine the extent to which determination, luck, and great training can overcome genetic deficits. In a saturated sport like football (either variety), basketball etc. the talent pool is so deep that people at the top have elite genetics AND all those other factors on lock. A sport like strongman has only tapped the surface of what is possible. The best possible strongmen are probably playing American Football, or in state sponsored Olympic Programs for Oly Lifting, Shot Put, etc.
    Because it’s a young and niche sport, many of the best athletes (possibly excepting a couple of GOAT tier guys) are not the absolute genetic elite, but are instead the most genetically gifted folks who also discovered the sport early enough, liked it enough to stick with it, and were not drawn to more lucrative or prestigious options.
    Combing the two factors strongman is in the middle of the pack for me in trans of sports where genetics dominate all. As it grows it’s moving further to high end though.

  • @judotaffy
    @judotaffy 11 місяців тому

    Great information, I’ve never heard this stuff put together like this before.

  • @HumanMechanism
    @HumanMechanism Рік тому

    .
    Love this nuanced talk on sports science.

  • @mitchellcullinan5696
    @mitchellcullinan5696 Рік тому

    Love the break down of the body's mechanics for this sport.

  • @m4yd0g
    @m4yd0g Рік тому +6

    There must be some neurological components to strength as well. Some people can access more of their existing musculature to generate force and have higher pain tolerance. I'm thinking about guys like Dennis Rogers. It's trainable to to an extent but naturally strong people have an advantage.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Рік тому +3

      That's trainable. A lot of a novice's progress on weightlifting is neurological for a little while until actual muscle gain is made. EVERYTHING is a neurological adaptation, even brushing your teeth. Try it opposite handed for an example.

  • @BuckAugust
    @BuckAugust Рік тому +1

    Very interesting to think about the muscle insertion points and ability to produce force.

  • @M1keDaly
    @M1keDaly Рік тому

    I learned something today. Also big congrats on the Arnold Win.

  • @unapologetic-masculinity
    @unapologetic-masculinity Рік тому +1

    Loving your content! Very well explained and informative video. Looking forward to seeing you compete at the Arnold's and WSM.

  • @TheStrongestMatt
    @TheStrongestMatt Рік тому

    Awesome info Mitch. Good luck at the ASC!

  • @DreJr
    @DreJr Рік тому

    I'm not even halfway and the information has enlightened me. I am impressed. Even if the rest of the video is crap this has been excellent, lol. 👍

  • @robinlove6981
    @robinlove6981 Рік тому +1

    Well done on the Arnold Strongman win!! Here's to many more. Well done Mitch

  • @CalvinHikes
    @CalvinHikes Рік тому

    Awesome this makes me feel a lot better about myself not being a strong man. But hey I'm flexible and fast.

  • @nembor
    @nembor Рік тому +1

    A video about PEDs would be fantastic!

  • @kenknuppel3067
    @kenknuppel3067 Рік тому

    I appreciate the phallic humor at 30 seconds in. You might say it was sooner than expected.

  • @theslimelord4038
    @theslimelord4038 Рік тому

    So glad u won strong man n started a UA-cam

  • @ChristopherSalisburySalz
    @ChristopherSalisburySalz Рік тому

    Great video!. I think this is a very fascinating topic and this is the first video I have seen that attempts to quantify it to some degree. People often refer to genetics but never get specific or try to quantify it. I would love to see maybe some ratios between the femur and tibia that would yield greater squat potential and likewise for other joints. It would be cool to objectively assess yourself simply by measuring bone lengths and such. It would also be fun to design the "perfect strongman body". If you were God and you could make a man the most well suited to strongman events what would he look like (height, weight, bone lengths or ratios, etc.)?

  • @wordsthatcreate
    @wordsthatcreate Рік тому

    Great video, thank you

  • @maximbudnick
    @maximbudnick Рік тому

    Very interesting, thanks!

  • @NickSrp1
    @NickSrp1 Рік тому +1

    Nothing like getting an anatomy lesson from the Moose ;) jokes aside this one was really interesting. Love the content you’ve been putting out lately

  • @Neeko_Z
    @Neeko_Z 11 місяців тому +1

    I’m 6’2 and get the feeling I would do well in strongman. I like explosive movements and naturally good stamina (so I think) I can gain weight very fast or lose it quickly if wanted 🤷🏻‍♂️
    Also I feel 85% genetics with a mind 100% in the game (which includes technique) is better than 98% genetics with a mind that’s 70% in the game. The power of will.

  • @meatbasedvegan4859
    @meatbasedvegan4859 Рік тому

    Thanks teach!

  • @gabrielpichorim8191
    @gabrielpichorim8191 Рік тому

    I think protein synthesis, number of nuclei per muscle cells, androgen receptors, inflammation response also affect your ability to generate power or withstand the required weekly volume of training

  • @bertcloutier8718
    @bertcloutier8718 Рік тому

    I learn something every time I watch Mitchell

  • @Tyler-wx9gj
    @Tyler-wx9gj Рік тому

    Straight down to brass tacks, dig it --
    .

  • @etrephesm
    @etrephesm Рік тому

    Well i am tall and skinny. But I have large ankle and wrist joints and broad shoulders. Someone didnt feed me right as a kid (was 6'2" 5% body fat at 150lbs in highschool), so ive adpated to being skinny, with very little muscle mass. Have a voracious appetite nowadays and just recently started strength training as a part of my endurance training, and some of my baseline numbers with no practice, are as follows:
    Deadlift 315lbs 2 rep
    Bench 165lbs 1 rep
    Squat 135 lbs 10 reps
    Pull ups 8 reps
    I thinks its safe to assume that I have a huge capacity for strength, considering this is where i am starting.
    Doing great feeding myself nowadays, i used to get shaky during excersize, especially during basketball practice/games. But now i am a lean 185 lbs, no shakes, looking to compete in triathlon.
    Hoping I can master triathlon, and then move into strongman when I start entering my 40s

  • @patricknoll81
    @patricknoll81 Рік тому

    What happened to #2?!
    Love the video. It is great food for thought. Personally, I might also add joint health. Perhaps it is a given, but I find my rep ranges are greatly impacted by how much my joints can comfortably move repetitively. I often will burn out at lower and higher weights around the same rep, which is usually caused by having to concentrate on form/stability as my joints burn out.
    Anyway, thanks and keep putting out this kind of stuff!

  • @LiamBens
    @LiamBens Рік тому

    Damn i don’t have anything of that still going to train for it though 😂
    love the dwight on your office

  • @jasonhenderson3172
    @jasonhenderson3172 Рік тому +4

    Very interesting! How would you factor in joint size (I.e. wrist, elbow, etc.)?

    • @stokiemanbrent4200
      @stokiemanbrent4200 Рік тому +1

      I think joint thickness mostly comes with the territory if you're genetically built for strength.
      That being said, it's not the be all & end all. Mitch himself doesn't have crazy thick joints. Larry Wheels does not have thick joints. JF Caron doesn't.

  • @LCHAPPO2000
    @LCHAPPO2000 Рік тому

    Mitchell hooper, the world's strongest man we need.
    Routing for you!

    • @Kaynos
      @Kaynos Рік тому +1

      He won !

  • @jamescollinge9082
    @jamescollinge9082 Рік тому

    Great video, out of Interest, what is your vertical jump? I noticed one video where you were trying to compete with a couple of guys to jump and touch an item, you crushed it, easy.

  • @StruthGaming
    @StruthGaming Рік тому +1

    Hoping you could clarify something for me. You mention that shorter muscles have more cross sectional mass and are stronger, but then also that more distant insertions provide a better moment arm (which would reduce cross sectional mass compared to shorter insertions?). Is one more important than the other for strength or am I just misunderstanding?
    Really enjoyed this style of video, could listen to you talk about this stuff all day.

    • @amerhellany1422
      @amerhellany1422 Рік тому

      i dont think that the muscle being further away from the joint will make it thin, it could be placed fruther and at the same time thick as well, as short guys like me as well we tend to have an easier time developing thicker muscles which if we have these muscles further away from the joints itll be a perfect combo but instead having these muscles placed closer to the joints will limit how much force we can produce and so we will be having to rely on our thick muscles to produce force

  • @bryantbenkoski849
    @bryantbenkoski849 Рік тому +1

    I think you’re correct I’m naturally big, stand 6’4 370lbs and overhead is where I struggle because of how long my arms are. Overall I’m a better deadlifter than overhead.

    • @buffoonustroglodytus4688
      @buffoonustroglodytus4688 Рік тому +1

      I’m better at wanking with my right hand but the left hand feels better sometimes. Depends on your genetics and the insertion of the bend on your shaft and which direction it points. It’s best to switch it up and not rely solely on one hand. That would be offensive to all arm amputees

  • @reallymysterious4520
    @reallymysterious4520 Рік тому +1

    Mooooooooooooose !!! Good Luck at Arnolds !!!

  • @bradswaffar8237
    @bradswaffar8237 Рік тому

    Love the content…

  • @aaronbarlow4376
    @aaronbarlow4376 10 місяців тому

    At 51 years old, I'm 6ft and 265lbs, safe to say I'm a fat fuck. I have a fair bit of muscle too but needing to eat more has never been a necessity lol. I'm jealous of those guys that can eat whatever they want. I used to be able to eat what I wanted in my 20s and 30s but 40s no and 50s I just need to look at a KFC billboard and I put on 5kg.
    I've always been stronger than average and a fast sprinter when young, I wish I could regain that but age is in my way. I'm getting into powerlifting and intend to compete in the masters division a year or so once my total is respectable, my current total of 501kg is pitiful but I'm getting stronger. I have long femurs and short tibia which makes squatting to depth near impossible but working on it. We can overcome genetics to a point. In the end it's all about competing with ourselves and maximising our potential whatever that may be.

  • @glywnniswells9480
    @glywnniswells9480 Рік тому

    Genetics is everything especially when it comes to muscle contractile abillity i remember small lean guys at school who were stronger than guys twice their size. Tim Noakes sports scientist said the muscle contractile quality varies alot between people so he can have half the amount of muscle anf still be the strongest guy.
    Although this is rare.
    And gives them a bit of a "sleeper" look.
    However in strongman it seems there are literally zero guys with small sized muscle.
    The factors you mentioned are very interesting and warrent another video but mayb include the factor of muscle contractile abillity.
    I think of bruce lee as a very strong guy with explosive power and small muscles. But maybe heavy weight for reps would be a problem. Look into muscle contractile abillity.

  • @roytromb_strength
    @roytromb_strength Рік тому

    Lots of good things. But slowly but surely I’ve gone from 150lbs to 202lbs not fat. Training hard and eating well. That’s time but it’s doable. Same for everyone here saying they don’t put on weight. You gotta eat more, count macros and calories. Chances are you are not eating enough to gain weight.

  • @karlschultz3337
    @karlschultz3337 Рік тому

    My first thought was how the stones get bigger as they get heavier and Tom's wingspan.

  • @RidgeSmithTech
    @RidgeSmithTech Рік тому

    💪

  • @cromdevotee449
    @cromdevotee449 Рік тому +1

    Number 3 and 4 reminds me of Devon Larratt's idea about the art of tightness for armwrestling. You see the same thing in old powerlifters from west-side etc. the tightness makes them stronger, like wearing a suit.

    • @buffoonustroglodytus4688
      @buffoonustroglodytus4688 Рік тому

      Tightness might be good for weightlifting but it’s shit for everything else. I’ve always viewed stiffness as a very unathletic trait.

  • @_d0ser
    @_d0ser Рік тому +2

    I think it's huge but no one can really know if they have the genetics until they're a few years into training.
    That said, I'd be curious on your thoughts at what strength level, at given training time intervals, you think is reasonable if someone's goal is to begin strongman. For example, someone training for two years should be able to deadlift X amount of weight and press Y amount of weight if they want to continue training to be a strongman and if they can't hit that weight by that time period, they should focus on GPP/crossfit/some other training regiment/schema.

    • @sharpestbulb
      @sharpestbulb Рік тому +1

      sounds more like a question of continual progression than looking for absolute numbers and a time frame. Who cares if it takes person A 3 times as long to get to the same level as person B, if person A continues to progress then they may end up out lifting B down the line. They'd never know if they gave up trying after 2 years

  • @pseudopetrus
    @pseudopetrus Рік тому

    Genetics is everything!

  • @tabascojoe77
    @tabascojoe77 Рік тому

    💪💪💪

  • @ittakeswill4746
    @ittakeswill4746 Рік тому

    Ever train anyone or research someone with a movement disorder and how their muscles respond to training? I have myoclonic dystonia and lifting has always been a challenge.

  • @reallymysterious4520
    @reallymysterious4520 Рік тому

    Did you ever do a one rep max bench press or squat Mitch ? If so do you care to share the amount ?

  • @forteka81
    @forteka81 Рік тому

    How can you tell where your attachment points are?

  • @bonniebryan6216
    @bonniebryan6216 Рік тому

  • @zakvargo9147
    @zakvargo9147 Рік тому

    Are there any events that being short gives you an advantage?

  • @Thulgore
    @Thulgore Рік тому

    I still don't understand how Thor can slim down and balloon up so easily. He did it after his injury at WSM too.
    On that same idea.......Kieliszkowski has done some stuff that doesn't even seem like he should be able to do. More importantly, I like to know Mitch's ideas as to why deadlift is his issue.....his only issue (that I can think of). He's amazing at so many things that seem like they would be beneficial for DL too.

  • @CJFranciss
    @CJFranciss 10 місяців тому

    Oleksiy Novikov enters the chat

  • @Phoebonaccii
    @Phoebonaccii 10 місяців тому

    5’9 and 132lbs. I think i have great chance of become WSM one day. One Calorie at a time :)

  • @dyldobaggins8173
    @dyldobaggins8173 Рік тому

    Have you seen the mobility of Grizzly?

  • @kalajainen
    @kalajainen Рік тому

    . I love leaving these, it’s funny every time

  • @jameschristy9966
    @jameschristy9966 Рік тому

    They play a big part my friend training strong man for years and bet me I couldn't lift a 140kg log I did it on my second try been hooked ever sence

    • @jameschristy9966
      @jameschristy9966 Рік тому

      O ps I'll see you at the asc and worlds 🌎 going to both

  • @kalevipoeg6916
    @kalevipoeg6916 Рік тому

    Genetics play an enormous role in physical capacity, and there's no getting around that. People really tend to want to believe that enough hard work can overcome any difference in size, build etc but that simply is not the case. If you have a bird-boned build and your bodyweight at, say, 6 foot, is naturally hovering around 150-155 lbs, you have thin wrists and narrow shoulders and a shallow chest, you can improve to an extent but you're always going to be at a disadvantage over the 6 foot guy whose natural (non-obese, I'm talking a reasonable body fat ratio) resting weight is 190 to 200 lbs who has a deeper chest, broader shoulders, wider wrists, etc. I've always felt I'm sort of the intermediate - I'm 6'2", currently weigh around 210 but I've been as heavy as 220 (I've never consciously tried to gain a ton of weight before - this is with working out 3 times a week on average, usually just doing some dumbbell presses at home, where I've generally only gone up to 120 lbs per hand on dumbbell chest press and max standing shoulder press with one dumbbell of 120 lbs as well - so it's a decent amount of weight but nothing crazy like strongman training) - my natural RANGE I would say is between 185 at my very lightest where I've been really defined with all the abs showing and very vascular and 220 lbs where I'm not fat at all, just bulkier with a little higher body fat percentage. Even at my slimmest a men's Large shirt would be literally skin-tight and showing skin at the bottom, XL is somewhat ok and XXL is a more comfortable fit. My wrists are not super thick but my fingers and wrists are thicker by a decent amount than my 5'11" brother, who has a slighter build - I'm close in height with Eddie Hall, but I'd say even without training his wrists would be thicker and he'd be more barrel-chested. SO, intermediate. I tend to have more muscle on my frame even if I never work out than a fair percentage of men, so potential-wise I'd say I'd have good potential if I were say 18 years old and really wanting to focus hardcore on getting into strength sports. But I'd probably never have the upper potential of a Brian Shaw or a Hafthor Bjornsson, no matter how much I trained, simply because I am not a genetic freak of nature (no offense to them). Enough potential to be stronger than MOST men but not enough to be at the top of the STRONGEST on the planet. I think I know my potential quite well, actually, and I'd guess the following if I REALLY dedicated myself to peaking out my strength for the next 5 to 10 years:
    Benchpress: 500 lbs potential
    Deadlift: 700 to 800 lbs potential
    Overhead press e.g. a log press: 300 lbs potential
    Circus dumbbell overhead: 180 lb potential
    Squat: 400-500 lb potential (I have to account for issues I have with the tendons in the back of my knee)
    Farmer's walk: 250-280 lbs per hand potential (right now I've lifted and waked with 180lbs in one hand and regularly do 125 to 150 lb walks with dumbbells at the gym - 250 to 300 total- and that feels very easy, so this seems reasonable with training, but my grip has never been the best so...)
    As you can see, while these numbers are definitely nothing to sneeze at considering the average untrained man has a max 1 rep benchpress of 135 to 145 lbs and can deadlift maybe 170-180 lbs without training, they are not good enough numbers to get me anywhere near a podium for a WSM competition. Of course my estimation of potential may be off but I am very familiar with what I can do NOW (without ever actually having deadlifted before, I have done around 400 lbs on my first try, which isn't a terrible start considering that 170-180 lb untrained average - though in fairness I'd been doing dumbbell walks, overhead presses and so on which did recruit some of the same muscle groups), I've come close to 315 on the bench with what I'd call pretty casual training, and I know about how quickly I gain strength, what my limits are, how easy it is to break past my limits to a new level and I compare THAT with the WSM winners as a control on final potential which gives me roughly that (also, Arnold Schwarzenegger's best bench was about 500 lbs and before serious training his build and height were quite similar to mine, hence the 500 max estimate). Maybe my ultimate potential would be a bit higher or lower than those figures but I doubt they'd be off by that much considering, for instance, the farmer's walk record I think is 150 kg which is a bit over 330 lbs per hand, so for me to get even 250-280 per hand would be a very nice feat in my book considering my PROBABLY intermediate potential.
    For my brother, smaller overall, smaller bones, smaller structure, never has had a high muscle volume when not working out, he'd be on the lower end of the potential spectrum based on my observations of his capabilities, build, etc - he is someone who would struggle to put single 30 lb dumbbell overhead with one hand if I asked him to right now, cannot perform even 10 pushups, etc. Even WITHOUT working out, I was always able to get 40 to 50 pushups. Don't know why, he just has never been physically strong. NOW, you might wonder if we're brothers wouldn't we have the same genetic potential? Actually, no. Just as I'm several inches taller than him and have a bigger build by nature, you only share on average 50% of your genes with any given sibling - you get roughly 50% from each parent but the EXACT genes you inherit in those 50% are completely randomly inherited. That's how genetics works. I obviously got my build from my Grandfather, as did my 6'5", 250 lb cousin (that's HIS resting weight - guy is built like a sasquatch) though even more so in his case.
    Then again actual SIZE isn't necessarily the ultimate determiner - my great grandfather was in his younger years a competitive lifter in Estonia, and he was only bout 5'8" at most and not huge in build but could clean and jerk 180 lbs over his head with one hand, either side- which is pretty astounding from my perspective given that I have only ever gotten 120 up and I am not only larger and more muscular than he was but I do actually work out. He may have been a bit of a genetic freak himself - CONSIDER that someone like Brian Shaw at 400 lbs, 6'8" can put up a 270 lb dumbbell, right? But my Great Grandfather was 5'7", 5'8", at least a foot shorter, only weighed about 150 to 160 lbs and had this ape strength to put more than his own body weight over his head with one hand. Pound for pound, that makes him stronger than Brian Shaw, who can only manage perhaps 75% of his bodyweight with each hand. It's inexplicable ESPECIALLY with the limited diet eaten in Estonia in the early 20th century and his size, but he definitely did it - there are records. This was before protein powders, pre-workouts, creatine, steroids of any kind. So...yeah you can have just random guys who are unreasonably strong for their size and my great grandfather was, for whatever reason, one of them. If I had HIS potential, at my build I'd probably be capable of WSM levels of output.

  • @republicjim120
    @republicjim120 Рік тому

    What about fast-twitch versus slow-twitch? As someone who is extremely slow-twitch dominant, I realized a long time ago that I would never be any good at highland games. No matter how much I train I simply cannot accelerate a heavy object fast enough to throw it any reasonable distance. Heck, I struggle just starting a lawnmower, because I can barely yank the cord quickly enough. I train explosive movements often, and have seen minor improvement, but it's another genetic trait that can only be changed a little. On the positive side, I can do a good amount of reps with near-maximal weight, and even when I haven't done cardio in a long time I regain endurance quickly. I'm guessing that fast-twitch would be far more beneficial overall for strongman though, right?

    • @buffoonustroglodytus4688
      @buffoonustroglodytus4688 Рік тому

      Your first mistake was using a lawnmower to gauge the amount of fast twitch muscle fibers you have

  • @DKSTANG
    @DKSTANG Рік тому

    Anyone know if hes answered what He has done before strogman?

  • @weedermann
    @weedermann Рік тому

    Genetics is CERTAINLY playing a significantly positive role for you, bro!!

  • @a-a-rondavis9438
    @a-a-rondavis9438 Рік тому +3

    I think if you make it to a professional sport in this day and age, you have a "pro" set of genes, even Strongman. With steroid use, you have to respond well enough WITH your predisposed genetics to be big and strong enough to get to that level period. Some guys, like Larry Wheels, are hyper-responders and look like they never were skinny (there's an existing video of him on YT when he was 14, he was puny before weights and eventually gear), and some guys dose 500 mg of Test and 80 mg of Anavar and look natural compared to this other guy. I think with strength sports, there's even more factors than just hard-wired genetics and hard work. That gene to respond well to exogenous androgens means a whole lot too.
    The NBA is a prevalent example of "genetics mean everything". Sure, tons of hard work gets a gifted guy there, but it's much easier when you're 6'6", 7' wingspan, and can run like a deer with the ball, rebound at rim level, and defend 3 different positions. JJ Barea, John Stockton, and Mark Price couldn't do that.

    • @ChristopherSalisburySalz
      @ChristopherSalisburySalz Рік тому

      Agreed. The way your body tolerates and responds to the drugs matters a lot. For longevity in the sport you either have to have bulletproof organs that can tolerate high dosages for long periods of time or you have to respond really well to lower dosages. I am not discounting the natural ability of these guys at all though or their work ethic. PEDs are only a fraction of the whole equation. Having said that it's the one area that they hold close to the chest which in turn makes it the most fascinating. Do they top guys have an insane protocol of grams of stuff per week or is it just simple and modest? I'm sure it varies from person to person. Generally if people admit to PED use they always downplay it and give a partial version of the truth. They're really take a gram a week - they might say 500 mg a week - things like that.

  • @ryanphilpot3509
    @ryanphilpot3509 Рік тому +2

    Great content. If only it was easier and quicker to analyze anthropometrics then it would be easy to have a full understanding of mechanics😅

  • @sokjeong-ho7033
    @sokjeong-ho7033 Рік тому

    Dawg I got everything bad

  • @tomfisher7751
    @tomfisher7751 11 місяців тому

    Im 5 foot 7 so i do not think im cut out for it 😂 however a guy i know weighs 60kg and trains for strongman

  • @Veg-Power
    @Veg-Power Рік тому

    gaining weight is the easiest ever for me. some months of really hard and smart training and I was at 265 lbs bw already at 6' 0". didn't even need any protein powder or creatine but it's easy for me to eat over 8000kcal. And I always feel way too light. I think 330lbs would e optimal for a good basis for me after continuing with hard training for ~2-3 years. Ultimately I think my frame is capable of like 400 lbs but reaching that naturally I don't think is very doable or healthy :D I even gained 45 lbs in just one week once but this was extremly unhealthy and was due to the most stressful period of my life.. When I loose weight, my body wants to increase instantly so I gave up loosing weight and instead gaining strength.
    When I started out with lifting weights at just 13 years old gym owners always said they never saw someone gaining strength that fast. But life the last 15 yers was very tough with being homeless and after that moving places ten times, also severe autism hindered me to visit gyms (just too bright, loud and too much people in general) which were all huge setbacks. In fact it just took me some weeks after really starting to lift until I reached 440 lbs deadlift but yeah the story is so complex, no reason to continueing it here ^^ I heavily tend to strongman, bc for me it's 1000x more fun, satisfying and dopmain-creating to carry weight, grabbing stones and lifting logs than doing benchpresses for example. Though I like squats, deadlifts and overhead presses, also biceps curls.

    • @etrephesm
      @etrephesm Рік тому

      A few weeks from when you were 13 to get to 440 lbs deadlift?
      Or when you got serious as an adult?
      I recently started strength training, my baseline deadlift max is 315 lbs

  • @seanwhitehall4652
    @seanwhitehall4652 Рік тому

    Dumbest question I've seen today, but there's time and still worth going into the details.

  • @highlandroberts2053
    @highlandroberts2053 Рік тому

    Idk I’m kinda short at 5’11, but I’m 19 and decently strong, I’ve placed top 3 in majority of competitions I’ve done so, idk

  • @Mathis218337
    @Mathis218337 Рік тому

    3:56 also gymnasts are generally under 5’6” - I’ve never seen a good strongman under 5’11”

    • @bloatmax4420
      @bloatmax4420 Рік тому

      Graham Hicks, Vytautas Lalas, and Rob Kearney are all 5'10. and they weren't just good, they were/still are world class.

    • @Mathis218337
      @Mathis218337 Рік тому

      @@bloatmax4420 ok under 5’10” then. Point stands. No one that’s 5’6” is good at high level strongman.

    • @bloatmax4420
      @bloatmax4420 Рік тому

      @@Mathis218337 Shane Jerman, Andy Triana, Kalle Beck lol just because you're short doesn't mean you can't be a great strongman. Maybe to compete in the open category, sure but to say everyone who competes at lighter weight classes is "not good" is retarded of you

    • @Mathis218337
      @Mathis218337 Рік тому

      @@bloatmax4420 open is the only category that matters lol

    • @bloatmax4420
      @bloatmax4420 Рік тому

      @@Mathis218337 not to the people who don't compete in it

  • @jlalonde1000
    @jlalonde1000 Рік тому

    I have a disability where my left side have very little to no stability so I a bad at pressing I can barely dumbbell press 40 with wraps barbells a little better anything pulling I am better than avg gym guy at my weight 10 years training o also had cancer in that time so ya they have a big part in it

    • @jlalonde1000
      @jlalonde1000 Рік тому

      Deadlifting is the only thing I have been better than avg in my whole lifetime so ya I deadlift as much as I can

  • @sup3rm9c16
    @sup3rm9c16 Рік тому

    i wish i had a thicker muscle

  • @mxcafx
    @mxcafx Рік тому

    🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @JoshO423
    @JoshO423 Рік тому +25

    Money sure does… Unfortunately, my strongman dreams have to be put on hold until our political leaders can stop bankrupting our country. My increased cost of living & decreased income means I can’t afford all the food, vitamins/supplements, gear & surgeries/physical therapies for rehab or a coach 🤷🏻‍♂️ it’s pretty great…😅😢

    • @inspiredmme
      @inspiredmme Рік тому +1

      Where are you from? Argentina?

    • @charliebrittable
      @charliebrittable Рік тому +2

      Tbf its like that in the uk now. All food has gone up ranging 30%-200% in price yet our pay only by 2%
      And the 4x hike in electric and gas over the last year 💀

    • @Hamisrodriguez
      @Hamisrodriguez Рік тому +4

      Most of what your are talking about is the small 1%
      Training and diet can be cheap and affordable and will get you near your potential even before things like physios paying a coach and enhancements supps etc

    • @NSER164
      @NSER164 Рік тому

      @@inspiredmmeprobably canada

    • @leandrojuarez1369
      @leandrojuarez1369 Рік тому

      ​@@inspiredmmej i was thinking the samee dude, Beacuse, Plot twist i'm argentinian. AND we are in the shit😂

  • @applesauce1852
    @applesauce1852 Рік тому

    ...😀

  • @sarahshenton-mu3br
    @sarahshenton-mu3br Рік тому

    ...💩 from a Canadian fan!

  • @goldilox811
    @goldilox811 Рік тому +1

    Does genetics play a role in height?

  • @Lonewolf__666
    @Lonewolf__666 Рік тому

    Poor Genetics, just up the Gear. 😉

  • @meyertechrants3589
    @meyertechrants3589 Рік тому

    My humerus is so long it's not even funny.

    • @meyertechrants3589
      @meyertechrants3589 Рік тому

      Actually tho, I'm 190cm tall and have a 2m armspan and that's mostly humerus. My pressing is awful. I have long femurs too so my squatting sucks. Will never be a static monster. But lots of moving events are my jam. I've also got lats for days. Truck pulls, stones, carries, built for that stuff great.

  • @Iron-Buddha
    @Iron-Buddha Рік тому

    o7

  • @tompashuysen2880
    @tompashuysen2880 Рік тому

    🦌. . .

  • @lekkerpruven887
    @lekkerpruven887 Рік тому

    I really feel like genetics is the most misused reason to declare athletes that perform (very) well.
    If you have an idea of the amount of steroids that is used, even by amateur, you see way to mutch people with the "genetic" excuse.
    There are literally thousands and thousands of pro athletes and just as many amateurs close to their level. Not on a peanut butter sandwich, but on PEDs. It's almost impossible to predict the outcome of they didn't use PEDs.
    Being wise and consistent about training, staying injury free. Eating healthy, all the time. Sleeping good, all the time. Those are the real sacrifices that make the difference. And most won't make those sacrifices.
    Yes, the extremes of the extremes, those are genetics. But now every pro athletes is the most genetically gifted ever, i just can't believe that. It could be, i just can't wrap my brain around that.

  • @Adumah77
    @Adumah77 Рік тому

    So what hieght is too short to you