Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you! NOCO GB70: amzn.to/3nqxua4 GOOLOO 4000A: amzn.to/3q4aNPZ GOOLOO 2000A: amzn.to/3DBA07q Schumacher DSR ProSeries DSR128: amzn.to/2ZUOFKd Autowit: amzn.to/32ONISo Imazing: amzn.to/3jW4IkZ Antigravity XP-1: No longer available
It’s been a year since the round 1 video. Please let me know if you’d like a round 3 video and I’ll put one together. Also, I finally setup Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, links below. A big thank you to Jim for putting together a quick access video library, which includes a list of products tested. bit.ly/2FCrBpk Looking forward to reading your comments and your future video suggestions! Best regards, Todd ➡ Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order): NOCO GB70: amzn.to/3nqxua4 GOOLOO 4000A: amzn.to/3Bh6zVh GOOLOO 2000A: amzn.to/3BhpXl0 Schumacher DSR ProSeries DSR128: amzn.to/2ZUOFKd Autowit: amzn.to/32ONISo Imazing: amzn.to/3jW4IkZ Antigravity XP-1: No longer available Laser Tachometer: amzn.to/3ozdINn Sound Meter: amzn.to/3uM7WsB
Request, sorry if I missed it in a video, can you do a cold comparison? Where I live it routinely gets to be -30F at night so cold starts are crazy. The lithium packs definitely have a harder time in the cold. Ultimate test would be cold engine and cold battery pack, but understandably it might be hard to get a super cold engine. Sometimes on long outings I can't take the jump pack with me to keep it warm, so I have to leave it in the car. So far my battery has been doing well in the cold, but having one of these as backup would be a great stress relief.
I'm an old guy and all that rapid fire tech. talk goes right over my head. BUT, when you attached them to the vehicle and turned the key. THAT answered all my questions.
What happened to the Audew E-Power 155 you tested last? Shouldn’t it be on the comparison tests? It sure does look exactly the same as others tested in this video
I like the real world (actual jump start) tests he does the best, but found the new additions useful and interesting. Fun to see what they actually do. I was in Harbor Freight to buy the Viking, but thought I need to research these. So glad Project Farm did these! The Viking failed both times! Saved me from wasting time and money.
Very thorough reviews. Great job! One additional thing that I would love for you to test is to fully charge all of them and put them away for 1-3 months, then see how they work without topping off. This would simulate a very important use case for those who throw them in the trunk and expect them to work at an unexpected time. Some models (like the early Tacklife models) have a mechanical on-off switch that physically disconnects the batteries during storage. In theory, this might reduce the rate of discharge vs. an electronic pushbutton (which always bleeds off a little juice even when turned off). All batteries have some level of self-discharge, so it's a question of whether the physical on-off button makes a significant difference, or is it negligible.
I do the 3 month thing with my Shumacher Lithium Ion pack now. Have for 3-4 years. 3 months is no issue for a good unit. 6 months really either, stored in my trunk or floorboard. Start your rig/car/truck and and as soon as you are up and running you just recharge your battery pack for next time. I doubt 3-6 months storage for the GooLoo will be any harder than on my current 4 yr old Shumacher. Probably easier with new technology. I paid $80 for my Shumaker, 4 years ago, so about same price re: current vs old dollars. Gotta trust Project Farm. Better testing than I could ever do.
Hi, if could do another car battery jumper unit test including those 2 units that I would call the winners of test 1 & 2 (audu ?) It was funny that Harbour freights failed so badly and I was about to buy 1
@@remyllebeau77 More stuff from sources other than China would indeed be nice. Also, details like clamp construction can be crucial. Who wants a clamp with plastic hinges that easily break easily on first use, rendering the jump box useless? Noco GB70, GB150, and Gooloo GP4000 have clamps with metal hinges.
EXCELLENT testing - I've been looking for jump starter testing by someone who actually knows what they are doing. Great job with various temperatures, meter testing, small 2.0 Ranger, and then the diesel tractor. This is the best and most comprehensive testing I've seen!
I have a gooloo and it has served me well for several years now. Talked my wife through a jump start once over the phone and got herself home. Just want to give a plug for something that really worked for us. Great videos!
Strongly agree! Sometimes the cheap option is totally worth it, sometimes not even close.. and youd never know for sure otherwise by searching forums lol
It's really nice to have someone who would put these units to actual real life load and stress tests. I've looked at some other sites that just tell you what they think and not show you in detail like this... KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK !!!
Its been awesome to see how much this channel has grown and how much happier @Project Farm is in making his videos over the last couple years. Keep up the good work brotha! 👍
As the year is drawing to an end, I would love to see a Wrap-Up for this years videos, or maybe for all of your videos so far. Kind of like a best worst highlight reel. Youre focus is generally scientific method but Id love to hear your takes and see what surprised you the most, what the biggest disappointments were, and maybe what future plans you might have are
Definitely the BEST and most comprehensive test I’ve ever seen on jump starters. I’m waiting for the delivery of my NOCO GBX155. Hope it will perform well.
You rock Bruther ! Love your videos they are a wealth of information. You have become a trusted source of knowledge. Corporations don't like you. But America loves you Buddy. Thanks again. Good Vibes 👣
No wonder that NOCO runs so long cranking that engine, with those high gauge cables. Thinner cables = more resistance = more voltage drop. Lower voltage = lower power.
However, they work good when they are supposed to. We have one at work, works great. So my boss bought another one. The new one stopped charging. We’ve even left it on charge for a few days and nothing. With the same charger we charge the old one. It’s a noco gb150
@@vladmayster6419 watch his past video on these jump starts the other noco did terrible especially for the price. and it has a bunch a good reviews Idk if 200 dollars justifies this version thats actually good unless you have a huge engine
@@ProjectFarm Always man! You do so much work for us and I make alot of decisions based on your NON BIAS professional results. Your channel is PRICELESS!
While you are working on that video, @@ProjectFarm, do please show the best *usual* ways to attach a rope or chain to a vehicle. This way you can minimize the chances of your vehicle getting junked and winding up in a FailArmy video, and maximize your chances of being viewed as a savior.
@@metaxaanabeer Agree completely, unfortunately both of those items are way more expensive than the alternatives, which will make the decision for many folks especially if they are unaware of the effectiveness and safety of the new stretchy/soft gear. It’s worth it, people. Save up for it.
Items that are intended for vehicle recovery are rated, and will have a large tag permanently attached with the rating numbers. Commercial/industrial rigging gear will have a WLL rating (working load limit) number of lbs. which will be 20% or a bit less of the tensile/breaking strength. Many recovery items for us average citizens only have the much higher tensile/break strength rating on the tag. Failure testing has already been done for us. If, however, you would like a comparison of all the other performance factors/ease of use, there are hundreds of videos by people who use this gear very often, and have much experience with most of the different types. For one guy to generate the real world information you need would take a long time to accomplish, and probably damage a few vehicles during the testing. And be expensive. Lots of people are injured (a few killed) by improper use of recovery gear. Please research the safe ways and the danger factors. Oh, and if a piece of gear doesn’t have a rating, it’s not intended for recovery. Do not use.
i've got the gooloo GP4000 , i've started quiet a few cars and even a few trucks including a 16 ton semi diesel engine with it no problem , still runs fine after a year of use
I might pick one of those up. I bought a NOCO GB40 not far back and with a full charge it failed to start my wife’s 3.7 Ford Edge this morning. I returned it today. I ended up having to jump it with my truck.
I bought a truck and needed a jump starter to keep in it. I followed the links in your description and I hope you get a commission off of the GP4000 I bought. Thanks for your hard work!
I've watched this after I bought myself a noco GB40, came from a small auto parts store and paid $100 and go a noco genius 1amp charger with it, slow charger that has been sitting between a old car and forklift. I love the noco stuff!
In my opinion 95% of the tool reviews are paid shills. This also includes all the lawn care, auto detailing and home improvement people too. Milwaukee and Echo are the worst offenders of the fake review process.
I stopped watching the bear. He's an obvious shill for HF. He occasionally pans some of their crappier stuff to make it appear that he's impartial, but most of his reviews for HF products are laughable.
If one reads the reviews on Amazon, any of the NOCO units have a large proportion of negative reviews. One thing I have noticed, is that with many of these units they will work for a certain amount of time, then refuse to charge or other problems when the units are a few months old. Great review.
The mAh value on any of them is a big lie, as they are counting capacity in parallel, i.e. at base cell voltage, which is around 4V for LiPoly and 3.3V for LiFePo, but they're actually connected in series.
Can't wait for the next one...just purchased the new generation of Noco called boost X ,thanks for all the information I needed to make my smart purchase
I know its probably more detailed than you would like to do but charging specs on products like these might be helpful as well. Some of us live off of 12v dc rather than household a.c. Just a suggestion. Bought the gooloo 4000 per this video. Thanks for what you do!
I think what amazes me the most on all your videos is there is no one brand, no one store, and no one style that carries all of the best. A person has to know which is best in what. Thanks
I bought a Nexpow 2000a jumpstarter/ power bank from Amazon Have started multiple completely dead batteries and it hasn't ever failed me. Best $80 I ever spent.
It amplifies the power using super capacitors to send all the power back to the battery in one go unless the battery is really low in which case you can use power from a donor car/battery.
Part of the advantage of a supercapacitor is its longevity; it doesn't wear out like batteries. If it used used several times a day, like at a car lot, it can be quite effective.
It isn't a bad design, just different than what most people are used to. The average person also doesn't really understand how batteries work, and they assume that a "dead battery" means 0 volts.
Great channel! Let me tell you I am really pissed at Noco. A few years back I purchased their top of the line GB 350 jumper. I only used it a few times in the first year or so, jumping a few cars for neighbors. Went to used it again and it didn’t work, wouldn’t jump anything. The flashlight works, that’s about it. There seems to be a broken switch inside. Let me say I take very good care of my tools. This was stored inside on closet shelf, not abused in any way. I even bought a protective case for it. It’s out of warranty, nothing can be done. They may have fixed the cheap internal parts on later models. In the mean time I’m out close to $400.
I have an Autowit that I bought a couple of years ago, after seeing it on Scotty Kilmer. Has not disappointed, but often needs 2 or 3 tries. I prefer charging it via wall outlet and USB chord. Excellent video!!!
Gotta basic Noco GB40 for my 3.5 liter Accord coupe. I’ve had it for over 5 years , had to use it on several occasions and it has never let me down. It was a great deal during some Black Friday or cyber Monday or whatever. Only real drawback due its us-b cable is the charging time for the unit itself.
I love your videos. They're very thorough and leave almost nothing to chance. Great job. I would like to add that whenever using jumper cables or cable leads of any kind that you should always grind the clamp into the lead for the best connection possible. This is not only for your tests but for anytime you use jumper cables or cable clamps. Other than that great job sir! SALUTE!
I use the Gooloo 4000A in the garage where I am the mechanic. It has no problem whaty so ever, even on the coldest day of starting a completely dead Ford E450 6.8L gas and I hav also started stone cold Ford 6.0L diesels.. Amazing little gadget!
Thank you for an excellent comparison of jump starter video. Excellent detail and fair to all testing techniques used to help me decide which is best for my needs. Job Well Done Sir.
@@ProjectFarm just by going off last years numbers for Audew and this years for GooLoo, who scored higher? Not very patient...Really want to buy a charger stat. haha
@@jishyg8526 Guys my car battery is dead and I hate asking another person for a vehicle jump. So I'm trying to decide which is the best portable jumpstarter, I'm seeing gooloo and Audew pop up more
Bought the Gooloo GP4000 based on this video......it was on sale on Amazon and I had a gift card so I think I got it for around $40+ somewhere. The damn thing is amazing........only jumped a couple cars so far but boy it spins em' over like crazy. Plenty of umph.....
Didn't even watch the video but gave it a thumbs up because this reviewer is intelligent, concise, and unbiased. UA-cam is made for creators like this. This channel makes it so painful to watch the endless stupid rambling creators on other channels.
Very good review of the various jump starters. I was thinking of getting the NOCO GB 70 but now looking at getting the GOOLOO GP2000 OR GP4000. Thanks!
6 months ago I didn;t know these things existed , my girlfriend has a Goo Loo and I am in awe of how well it performs and the charge lasts for months ..
The Autowit actually performed better than what is being displayed in this test. He put the Autowit into the discharge mode (solid tone), moving it from one battery to the other, and then having a slight delay in hitting the starter. If it had been charged up, then moved to the dead battery...and then hitting the starter when the solid tone occurred after using the count-down, the starter would have run longer.
Just placed my order for the Gooloo 4000! I have a 6.0 powerstroke, a 6.1 srt8 Charger and 8.0 v10 viper - seems like this is the perfect medium unit to buy for emergencies!
I like your videos, great job. As for car jump starters, I wanted to know the voltage while it was cranking under load. Most of the modern electronic ignition cars I use or work on, the computer usually shuts off at 8.5 Volts...meaning the engine can crank and crank and crank but if the voltage drops below 8.5 volts then the ignition won't fire up the engine. During cranking in my experience the voltage still needs to stay above 8.5 volts. Any thoughts? When I started a new job they knew I was an auto mechanic prior and one day when they had a car that wouldn't start they called me over to check it out. The car would crank and crank but the engine wouldn't fire up. Luckily the dash had a voltage meter and I noticed the voltage would drop real low as soon as the engine started cranking. I told them the battery was bad...and OMG everyone started laughing. They all said "How can?...the engine is cranking!" "nah you don't know what you're talking about!" Really? Okay do you have jumper cables?....NOPE Okay so I tried another trick, I just tapped the motor with the key just to get the starter to kick over the engine, but because it was only a "tap" when the starter load shut off I was hoping the ignition voltage would spike causing the ignition to fire as the voltage climbed back up while the inertia was still rotating the engine. So after a few taps, the engine fired right up. "DON'T TURN OFF THE ENGINE!" They never questioned my skills again....LMAO
Gooloo GP2000 is really amazing. My friend's SUV totally drained the battery without use for 3 months. We first used a jumper cable to connect a car to boost, which failed; then we used Gooloo, Wow, just tried one time, and the car started.
Anyone have experience with these after they've sat around, unused, for a couple of years? For most of us, it's not predictable when we'll need them, and it could be a long time waiting.
My son has a BEATIT G18 (21000mAh) that he received last year for Christmas. I can’t remember if it was reviewed here previously or how I selected it for him. I used it last week to jump my ‘05 Sequoia 4.7L v8 when the door was left ajar and the vehicle was parked nose in the garage. The unit showed 70% charge and my Sequoia started on the first try. So, not the same as these units but impressive. But I would bet any of the units that performed well here would show a similar result. I
Very few reviewers will tear a product apart to see how quality its engineering and components are, so when it comes to longevity...it's a crapshoot. Some of the big review organizations like Consumer Reports will try to simulate wear and tear, but no matter what you are going to get anecdotal evidence. Take the NOCO brand. caleb has 3 years of using the product and his works great. Mine just died after 14 months of sitting in my trunk in mild weather with zero uses whatsoever. Your best bet is to look at a big review site like Amazon and see how the reviews are spread out. If the reviews are polarized with almost exclusively 5 star and 1 star reviews, chances are good that there is a major flaw in the product. If you get a decent spread of 5,4,3,2,1 star reviews then it is probably fairly reliable. That's been my experience.
Thanks for the information again. One question - having had a lithium poly jump starter for a few years now - storing charged is not good and the battery has swollen and does not work as well anymore to the point I would consider it dangerous to store. Would you consider a follow up in say a year after these have been stored in a hot car like environment fully charged and show the potential damage . I would like to know the battery chemistries , as for example the gooloo 4000 say lithium ion - but the Amazon web page says lithium polymer, which just does not store well fully charged
This was another educational video. I bet myself witch one would win overall, and I won!...get it? Anyways, thanks for the videos. I hope you're getting sponsors, or at least, you should be getting sponsors.
A few things to consider. starting power is quite difference from that tester. that thing puts a SOLID load on the battery while an actual car puts a more "pulsating" load on the battery these batteries are much better equipped to handle millisecond "loads" as the power demand pulsates (this is my educated guess) so far every unit I have tried even units I hate have no problem starting my V8 2002 Dodge Dakota WITH NO BATTER just the jumper. The engine usually turns off right away since the battery turns off right away as well but they ALL start it which really impressed me. I REALLY want to like the HF Viking for its LIFE batteries that's a HUGE deal a simple massive insanely huge deal especially for something your going to use twice a year and toss in the boot. but I have one condition for jump starters that is MANDATORY and I take no prisoners on this requirement. IT MUST be able to charge Via USB C. not output. INPUT. because when you lose that power brick its a paper weight for most people..... :-)
I’d be curious to see larger all-in-one devices. I’d also love to see much larger capacity devices, like GoalZero, Jackery, and other well-known luggable units.
Watching this video again, I will note that we had a dead battery in our car, and none of the jump starters we had would do the job, and we have several that we’ve bought over the years. We ended up having to call out AAA so that we could get the car started again, and then have it hauled down to have the system checked out and the battery replaced. I noticed that the AAA technician was using a NOCO Boost Pro GB150 unit, which is what I bought. I also bought a trickle charger, so that we can keep the battery topped off while we’re not driving nearly so much in these COVID times. I’d love to see a retest with other, higher power units like this one.
Its the testing method. These are designed for sudden power draw, like when you start your engine. They have capacitors that charge up and discharge at once to get the peak amperage. He's not allowing this to happen.
Those claims are usually made based on "ideal or perfect world conditions". Meaning, in the best possible case, if all conditions are just right, it should produce X amount. It's not so much as a lie, but a statement of ideal conditions. Where total current output is concerned that is. In the real world, chemistry has an effect which can cause variances in performance regarding batteries of all types. Those effects are what is seen in the results in this video.
@@hippopotamus86 Correction. Capacitors can release their stored energy all at once. But only for a fraction of a second at best. Far too short to ever turn over a vehicle's starter as well as provide enough voltage and current to power the ignition system long enough for the alternator to take over. These booster's output leads are connected directly to the internal lithium battery, just behind the high current diodes which prevent the lead acid car battery from causing a seriously dangerous chemical reaction in the lithium cells leading to an explosion, as well as preventing the alternator from sending voltage and current to the lithium battery. The only capacitors in these packs are used to filter voltages for it's display lights and the 5 volt USB output if equipped, along with varying controls offered on some models. The "peak amperage" is just that, the very maximum the lithium battery can produce under ideal conditions. Sadly, the real world just isn't ideal. Thus the lower ratings than advertised. Not to mention that the very diodes which protect the battery also will limit the total current output possible due to their own limitations because of real world conditions. An audio amplifier has a maximum wattage rating. But it is extremely difficult to obtain that maximum due to the same real world vs idea world conditions. He performed these tests perfectly. Just as any lab worth its funding would. EDITED: Capacitors in these packs are also used in control circuitry which handle the charging of the lithium battery.
@@theduder2617 It's not just "ideal conditions". They're essentially citing inrush current. With these instruments and ramping up the load, you're never going to see it regardless of how much they may be leaning on those "ideal conditions" to boost their claims. The whole test setup is basically the opposite of what they're designed to power and how they're designed to work.
@@jasonf7110 But yet manufacturer tests are often similar, just with some more expensive equipment is all. This isn't opinion here. Virtually all output specs listed are based on all components performing at absolute peak ability, with ideal chemical reactions in the cells, ideal semi-conducting abilities of the transistors and various other control features of these packs. In real life, not all chemical reactions occur as desired. Not all resistors have or maintain proper values. Heat is a main cause of fluctuations in the components which render ideal conditions almost impossible, hence the higher than achieved ratings. I apologize in advance, but you will lose this debate. Not because I am being stubborn, but that you are not correct. Inrush current is not related to, nor effects total output amperage on battery powered battery boosters. Nor is it a claim made by the manufacturers that was being put to the test. Inrush current comes into play more so in power supplies and mains powered battery chargers/engine starters and power converters. These packs are not converting power. They are storing power, then delivering it when needed through a few components which prevent the issues I mentioned in my previous response. If these packs were not tested correctly, I would be stating it without a doubt. But one thing is clear with this channel, if it is a faulty or inaccurate test, it probably will not be performed as accurate as possible information is the entire point.
Actually actually mean the Harbour Freight staff, but yeah I wouldn’t be happy about it either that their product failed not once but twice. I have a few of their products and are happy with them but thanks to project farm, This is one product I noticed stay far far away from
@@paul62462 yeah, some harbor freight products r surprisingly good & some r not so hot. Great to have this channel to see honest reviews & testing. I'm forever promoting this channel when ppl r looking for info. Well deserved .
Chances are extremely high that the dislikes come from people who discovered that what they wanted to be real, was in fact not real. They may have seen their favorite brand not support claims made by the manufacturer. Another possibility, they are from people who do not want new information to enter their brain. Sadly, those sorts of people are everywhere. lol
I owe that Viking. It’s been reliable for me, but it’s fussy when hooking it up. I have to hook the clamps on to the battery before plugging into the booster if order for the light to turn green. I don’t know what that is about. It started my Farmall 756 gas on the second try.
Man I swear you include harbor freight products in these test just for the comedy content. Thank you very much as always. Are we getting an oil filter test soon?
HF stuff is mostly good, but buyer beware. You don't always get your money worth for HF stuff since it's not worth the hassle to bring back a failed power tool and hope it's before the 90-day warranty!
@@nickbruns4154 I've brought back that sunjoe pressure washer twice to get new ones, literally lasts me a year and I just go to get a replacement. Just try it man, they won't turn you away
Project Farm does a lot of research and applies it with a detailed scientific process that is easy for the consumer to make an extremely informed decision.
The thing I like about PF is that the average person can go out, duplicate his testing methodology and see if they get the same or differing results [not that I dispute his conclusions]. No multi-million dollar UL, CSA, NASA, Livermore National Laboratory needed.
Probably more excitement than anything. Not only does he buy product but the HF employees get to see how their product works in more extreme conditions.
I bought their Vulcan jumpstarter and it has yet to let me down. I worked at a car repair shop and among the cars it's started included a long unstarted Mercedes diesel sedan. It's started everything I've needed to start. They're always on sale, I didn't pay list price. I have no complaints with it.
@@Mickt6 They are only meant for emergencies - these tiny batteries are delivering a HUGE current for their size and will quickly die with constant use... :)
Too bad their products don't last - mine died within a year after only one use - just avoid it & buy the NOCO - I know it seems expensive but it lasts longer than a few months and one use. A lot of mechanics I know have NOCO and use them every day. I was hugely skeptical given it's a lot more $$$ and bought a Gooloo instead - a total waste of money. I think the difference is the quality of the charge regulation, the Gooloo just overcharges itself and dies.
@@alialsebea5854 www.amazon.com/GOOLOO-SuperSafe-Starter-Battery-Portable/dp/B07QDXL1PW www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BLM981K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=projectfarmyo-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07BLM981K&linkId=f38fee2beeba1dd57fa9dbf440301e11 check descp next time
It reminds me of an old Sunn Vat 40 that I used to use in shop class back in high school. We had our choice of the Vat 40 (analog gauges) and Vat 60 (digital gauges). I always liked the 40.
@@ProjectFarm I have to expect a lot of your money goes into the testing equipment, not just the products tested. Thanks for what you do, please keep up the good work.
@@mckenziekeith7434 It's likely a theoretical maximum based on the cell manufacturer's specs. The internals of the jumper limit the current long before that peak since it would be useless at 1V (or however low they would drop at the max) and would kill the cells in a short order.
Well. For their hand tools I can say they hold up for what they are. Cheap tools with the same lifetime warranty as Snap-On and Matco. “Buy Once Cry Once” only works for non-lifetime tools/items. My two cents.
@@dutchynehtam Their corded drills and angle grinders aren't half bad either. Both of mine have held up to abuse for many years without skippin a beat.
Here's the list of products reviewed. More details in the video description. Thank you!
NOCO GB70: amzn.to/3nqxua4
GOOLOO 4000A: amzn.to/3q4aNPZ
GOOLOO 2000A: amzn.to/3DBA07q
Schumacher DSR ProSeries DSR128: amzn.to/2ZUOFKd
Autowit: amzn.to/32ONISo
Imazing: amzn.to/3jW4IkZ
Antigravity XP-1: No longer available
It’s been a year since the round 1 video. Please let me know if you’d like a round 3 video and I’ll put one together. Also, I finally setup Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, links below. A big thank you to Jim for putting together a quick access video library, which includes a list of products tested. bit.ly/2FCrBpk Looking forward to reading your comments and your future video suggestions! Best regards, Todd ➡ Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
NOCO GB70: amzn.to/3nqxua4
GOOLOO 4000A: amzn.to/3Bh6zVh
GOOLOO 2000A: amzn.to/3BhpXl0
Schumacher DSR ProSeries DSR128: amzn.to/2ZUOFKd
Autowit: amzn.to/32ONISo
Imazing: amzn.to/3jW4IkZ
Antigravity XP-1: No longer available
Laser Tachometer: amzn.to/3ozdINn
Sound Meter: amzn.to/3uM7WsB
Milwaukee power tool battery !! Will fire up a dead diesel truck , and it’s something most people already have !!
Request, sorry if I missed it in a video, can you do a cold comparison? Where I live it routinely gets to be -30F at night so cold starts are crazy. The lithium packs definitely have a harder time in the cold. Ultimate test would be cold engine and cold battery pack, but understandably it might be hard to get a super cold engine.
Sometimes on long outings I can't take the jump pack with me to keep it warm, so I have to leave it in the car. So far my battery has been doing well in the cold, but having one of these as backup would be a great stress relief.
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07Z69QHN6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 this thing is amazing id love to see how it compares
Would love to see the top 3 from each of the videos go head to head 👍
How do you feel these compares to the Audew from your last video
I'm an old guy and all that rapid fire tech. talk goes right over my head. BUT, when you attached them to the vehicle and turned the key. THAT answered all my questions.
Thanks for the feedback.
What happened to the Audew E-Power 155 you tested last? Shouldn’t it be on the comparison tests? It sure does look exactly the same as others tested in this video
He's talking to fast
@@neonstagerj Better than talking too slow.
I like the real world (actual jump start) tests he does the best, but found the new additions useful and interesting. Fun to see what they actually do. I was in Harbor Freight to buy the Viking, but thought I need to research these. So glad Project Farm did these! The Viking failed both times! Saved me from wasting time and money.
Very thorough reviews. Great job! One additional thing that I would love for you to test is to fully charge all of them and put them away for 1-3 months, then see how they work without topping off. This would simulate a very important use case for those who throw them in the trunk and expect them to work at an unexpected time. Some models (like the early Tacklife models) have a mechanical on-off switch that physically disconnects the batteries during storage. In theory, this might reduce the rate of discharge vs. an electronic pushbutton (which always bleeds off a little juice even when turned off). All batteries have some level of self-discharge, so it's a question of whether the physical on-off button makes a significant difference, or is it negligible.
Thanks for the video idea.
You could also test a diesel pickup with a cold engine. it would require some pre-heat then start up.
Good point.
I do the 3 month thing with my Shumacher Lithium Ion pack now. Have for 3-4 years. 3 months is no issue for a good unit. 6 months really either, stored in my trunk or floorboard. Start your rig/car/truck and and as soon as you are up and running you just recharge your battery pack for next time. I doubt 3-6 months storage for the GooLoo will be any harder than on my current 4 yr old Shumacher. Probably easier with new technology. I paid $80 for my Shumaker, 4 years ago, so about same price re: current vs old dollars. Gotta trust Project Farm. Better testing than I could ever do.
Hate to be selfish but, I'm gonna need a round three of this! The jump starter tests are so good!
Hi, if could do another car battery jumper unit test including those 2 units that I would call the winners of test 1 & 2 (audu ?) It was funny that Harbour freights failed so badly and I was about to buy 1
@@jerrybruner4343
Harbor Freight failures seem inevitable.
Same here. Plus I'd wish the Autowit test was more real world and charged by the discharged battery
What's the point unless there are other brands you want to see tested? Personally, I would like to see more stuff not made in China.
@@remyllebeau77
More stuff from sources other than China would indeed be nice. Also, details like clamp construction can be crucial. Who wants a clamp with plastic hinges that easily break easily on first use, rendering the jump box useless? Noco GB70, GB150, and Gooloo GP4000 have clamps with metal hinges.
Don`t mind me, just liking and commenting for our rare gem of honest reviews!
Thank you very much!
Nothing like opening up UA-cam and Project Farm is the first video on my list! 👍
Thank you very much!
EXCELLENT testing - I've been looking for jump starter testing by someone who actually knows what they are doing.
Great job with various temperatures, meter testing, small 2.0 Ranger, and then the diesel tractor. This is the best and most comprehensive testing I've seen!
Thank you!
I have a gooloo and it has served me well for several years now.
Talked my wife through a jump start once over the phone and got herself home.
Just want to give a plug for something that really worked for us.
Great videos!
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
This is one of THE most important channels on youtube
Thanks!
@@ProjectFarm and so many people have yet to discover!
Strongly agree! Sometimes the cheap option is totally worth it, sometimes not even close.. and youd never know for sure otherwise by searching forums lol
Would like to see these 2 first place winners compared to the 1st years 2 winners. Is that possible, Some of your test equipment has changed.
I definitely agree
“Harbor freight’s Viking has left the building...”
It came back to the building for a refund.
Uggh my dad bought one a few months after last years video. I wish I could have told him to return it.
It's really nice to have someone who would put these units to actual real life load and stress tests. I've looked at some other sites that just tell you what they think and not show you in detail like this...
KEEP UP THE EXCELLENT WORK !!!
Thank you very much, will do!
Its been awesome to see how much this channel has grown and how much happier @Project Farm is in making his videos over the last couple years. Keep up the good work brotha! 👍
Thank you!
As the year is drawing to an end, I would love to see a Wrap-Up for this years videos, or maybe for all of your videos so far. Kind of like a best worst highlight reel. Youre focus is generally scientific method but Id love to hear your takes and see what surprised you the most, what the biggest disappointments were, and maybe what future plans you might have are
Thanks for the video idea.
A list of recommended products would and how they were tested would be fantastic!
I second Sam’s suggestion.
Definitely the BEST and most comprehensive test I’ve ever seen on jump starters. I’m waiting for the delivery of my NOCO GBX155. Hope it will perform well.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
Sir, you sure put a lot of effort into your videos. Thank you.
You are welcome!
@@ProjectFarm Can you do one comparing all the units that have the battery jumper and tire inflator in one unit?
I've been a follower of yours for a while - cannot say how excited I was to see you had a test up for a product I'm looking to purchase.
Thanks! Glad to hear!
Thank-You for taking the time to show us the good & bad in those products.
You rock Bruther ! Love your videos they are a wealth of information. You have become a trusted source of knowledge. Corporations don't like you. But America loves you Buddy. Thanks again. Good Vibes 👣
I appreciate that!
Thanks for doing all these tests ,way better than reviews on Amazon!
Thank you!
It really amazes me that someone at Amazon hasn't called someone at UA-cam and gotten him banned...
These videos are habit forming..... I can’t stop watching! Thanks for what you to make me a better informed consumer.
Glad you like them! Thanks!
This is my go to for great reviews of almost anything. I literally sleep too these now after having watched every video.
Thanks for watching!
No wonder that NOCO runs so long cranking that engine, with those high gauge cables. Thinner cables = more resistance = more voltage drop. Lower voltage = lower power.
Thanks for the feedback.
However, they work good when they are supposed to. We have one at work, works great. So my boss bought another one. The new one stopped charging. We’ve even left it on charge for a few days and nothing. With the same charger we charge the old one. It’s a noco gb150
@@vladmayster6419 watch his past video on these jump starts the other noco did terrible especially for the price.
and it has a bunch a good reviews
Idk if 200 dollars justifies this version thats actually good unless you have a huge engine
Anyone else a regular to PF and hit like while you watch because you know it will be good already?!!
Thanks for the positive comment.
@@ProjectFarm Always man! You do so much work for us and I make alot of decisions based on your NON BIAS professional results. Your channel is PRICELESS!
Comment 2: skip to 9:38 to see the ignition coil arcing to what I believe is the cruise control.
Should test pulling ropes or straps for emergency pulling when get stuck.
Thanks for the video idea.
While you are working on that video, @@ProjectFarm, do please show the best *usual* ways to attach a rope or chain to a vehicle. This way you can minimize the chances of your vehicle getting junked and winding up in a FailArmy video, and maximize your chances of being viewed as a savior.
@@ProjectFarm Forget straps, too dangerous. Kinetic rope is the way to go along with soft shackles.
@@metaxaanabeer
Agree completely, unfortunately both of those items are way more expensive than the alternatives, which will make the decision for many folks especially if they are unaware of the effectiveness and safety of the new stretchy/soft gear.
It’s worth it, people. Save up for it.
Items that are intended for vehicle recovery are rated, and will have a large tag permanently attached with the rating numbers. Commercial/industrial rigging gear will have a WLL rating (working load limit) number of lbs. which will be 20% or a bit less of the tensile/breaking strength. Many recovery items for us average citizens only have the much higher tensile/break strength rating on the tag. Failure testing has already been done for us. If, however, you would like a comparison of all the other performance factors/ease of use, there are hundreds of videos by people who use this gear very often, and have much experience with most of the different types. For one guy to generate the real world information you need would take a long time to accomplish, and probably damage a few vehicles during the testing. And be expensive.
Lots of people are injured (a few killed) by improper use of recovery gear.
Please research the safe ways and the danger factors. Oh, and if a piece of gear doesn’t have a rating, it’s not intended for recovery. Do not use.
i've got the gooloo GP4000 , i've started quiet a few cars and even a few trucks including a 16 ton semi diesel engine with it no problem , still runs fine after a year of use
Thanks for sharing.
Just bought Gooloo 4000, probably will save my live or someone else in mountains of Idaho.
Thanks for great videos, long time subscriber!
Thanks for sharing. You are welcome! Thanks for being a long time subscriber!
Which mountains?
Where did you find one. Amazon is out of that one. Thanks.
I might pick one of those up. I bought a NOCO GB40 not far back and with a full charge it failed to start my wife’s 3.7 Ford Edge this morning. I returned it today. I ended up having to jump it with my truck.
I bought a truck and needed a jump starter to keep in it. I followed the links in your description and I hope you get a commission off of the GP4000 I bought. Thanks for your hard work!
Awesome thank you!
Awesome video. One year after it was uploaded and still helped me figure out which jumper to get!
Thanks! Glad to hear!
This man deserves some sponsors. Or maybe not. 🤔 without sponsors is very much non biased. And that's what we all love
Thanks for understanding why I don't agree to sponsors!
Wow thank you very much for the time and effort that you put into making this video. All the testing you did really added so much value.
You're very welcome!
Allways a grat sunday when i get the notification :)
You're the best!
I've watched this after I bought myself a noco GB40, came from a small auto parts store and paid $100 and go a noco genius 1amp charger with it, slow charger that has been sitting between a old car and forklift. I love the noco stuff!
Thanks for sharing.
I would love to see another review with the inclusion of the Hulkman jumper.
Thanks for the video idea.
Glad u call these guys out, 😀I guy have spare 750 amp battery in my diesel van cost $100
Thanks for the feedback.
I'm so curious to see how the UA-camr "the den of tools" would spin and twist in defense of the Viking. He's a total harbor freight fanboy.
Thanks for the feedback.
In my opinion 95% of the tool reviews are paid shills. This also includes all the lawn care, auto detailing and home improvement people too. Milwaukee and Echo are the worst offenders of the fake review process.
I stopped watching the bear. He's an obvious shill for HF. He occasionally pans some of their crappier stuff to make it appear that he's impartial, but most of his reviews for HF products are laughable.
@@bubbafudpucker397 im a Milwaukee fan boy but i agree with you, vcg construction is the worst offencender
with the Gooloo you do not need any gas, you just drive on the jumpstarter back to town.
lol
This channel has the most of what matters to me.
Thanks for sharing.
If one reads the reviews on Amazon, any of the NOCO units have a large proportion of negative reviews. One thing I have noticed, is that with many of these units they will work for a certain amount of time, then refuse to charge or other problems when the units are a few months old. Great review.
Thanks!
The mAh value on any of them is a big lie, as they are counting capacity in parallel, i.e. at base cell voltage, which is around 4V for LiPoly and 3.3V for LiFePo, but they're actually connected in series.
Great information. Thank you
This is the number one channel for reviews & tests.
Thanks!
Can't wait for the next one...just purchased the new generation of Noco called boost X ,thanks for all the information I needed to make my smart purchase
You are welcome!
I know its probably more detailed than you would like to do but charging specs on products like these might be helpful as well.
Some of us live off of 12v dc rather than household a.c.
Just a suggestion.
Bought the gooloo 4000 per this video.
Thanks for what you do!
I think what amazes me the most on all your videos is there is no one brand, no one store, and no one style that carries all of the best. A person has to know which is best in what. Thanks
Good Point!
I like your product comparison test, great job! As with the others I’d like to see round three with the Audew product.
Great suggestion!
I bought a Nexpow 2000a jumpstarter/ power bank from Amazon Have started multiple completely dead batteries and it hasn't ever failed me. Best $80 I ever spent.
Thanks for sharing.
So with the Autowit, you need a non dead battery? That's like having a solar powered flashlight (without batteries).
It amplifies the power using super capacitors to send all the power back to the battery in one go unless the battery is really low in which case you can use power from a donor car/battery.
Part of the advantage of a supercapacitor is its longevity; it doesn't wear out like batteries. If it used used several times a day, like at a car lot, it can be quite effective.
It isn't a bad design, just different than what most people are used to. The average person also doesn't really understand how batteries work, and they assume that a "dead battery" means 0 volts.
When I'm exhausted my heart still kind of beats -- so does a dead battery. 😂
Great channel! Let me tell you I am really pissed at Noco. A few years back I purchased their top of the line GB 350 jumper. I only used it a few times in the first year or so, jumping a few cars for neighbors. Went to used it again and it didn’t work, wouldn’t jump anything. The flashlight works, that’s about it. There seems to be a broken switch inside. Let me say I take very good care of my tools. This was stored inside on closet shelf, not abused in any way. I even bought a protective case for it. It’s out of warranty, nothing can be done. They may have fixed the cheap internal parts on later models. In the mean time I’m out close to $400.
Thanks for this wonderful video! Just got my Gooloo GP4000 yesterday, it boosted my BMW328i drained battery like a charm!
You are welcome! Great to hear!
I have an Autowit that I bought a couple of years ago, after seeing it on Scotty Kilmer.
Has not disappointed, but often needs 2 or 3 tries. I prefer charging it via wall outlet and USB chord.
Excellent video!!!
Thanks!
Gotta basic Noco GB40 for my 3.5 liter Accord coupe. I’ve had it for over 5 years , had to use it on several occasions and it has never let me down. It was a great deal during some Black Friday or cyber Monday or whatever. Only real drawback due its us-b cable is the charging time for the unit itself.
Thanks for the feedback.
I always wondered about these jump starters and thought about getting one. After these great tests, it’s time to buy! Thanks again!
You are welcome!
I still go back to this video when I'm looking for a good jump starter.
Thanks for sharing!
Got 3 Imazing, two jumps so far, worked perfectly. These products are a MUST in a car emergency kit.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I love your videos. They're very thorough and leave almost nothing to chance. Great job. I would like to add that whenever using jumper cables or cable leads of any kind that you should always grind the clamp into the lead for the best connection possible. This is not only for your tests but for anytime you use jumper cables or cable clamps. Other than that great job sir! SALUTE!
Thanks for the constructive feedback.
I use the Gooloo 4000A in the garage where I am the mechanic. It has no problem whaty so ever, even on the coldest day of starting a completely dead Ford E450 6.8L gas and I hav also started stone cold Ford 6.0L diesels.. Amazing little gadget!
Thanks for the feedback.
Man I could have used one of these this past week. -15 in the morning and my car didn’t want to start.
Thanks for sharing.
I can fully stand behind my NOCO BOOST PLUS (GB40) 12V 1000A. highly recommended!
Thanks for the feedback.
Appreciate all that wear n tear on your starter motors
Thanks!
Thank you for an excellent comparison of jump starter video. Excellent detail and fair to all testing techniques used to help me decide which is best for my needs. Job Well Done Sir.
Thanks and you are welcome!
Last year you had the Audew charger winning, but not included in this test. So Audew versus Gooloo, who wins???
Thanks for the video idea.
@@ProjectFarm The Gooloo looks suspiciously like a rebranded Autel, even the connector to the battery is the same.
@@ProjectFarm just by going off last years numbers for Audew and this years for GooLoo, who scored higher? Not very patient...Really want to buy a charger stat. haha
I was wondering exactly the same between those 2.
@@jishyg8526 Guys my car battery is dead and I hate asking another person for a vehicle jump. So I'm trying to decide which is the best portable jumpstarter, I'm seeing gooloo and Audew pop up more
Bought the Gooloo GP4000 based on this video......it was on sale on Amazon and I had a gift card so I think I got it for around $40+ somewhere. The damn thing is amazing........only jumped a couple cars so far but boy it spins em' over like crazy. Plenty of umph.....
Thank you!
Didn't even watch the video but gave it a thumbs up because this reviewer is intelligent, concise, and unbiased. UA-cam is made for creators like this. This channel makes it so painful to watch the endless stupid rambling creators on other channels.
Round 3 please! Nice work Project Farm!
Great arc jumping between A/C compressor and cruise unit on driver side during first Gooloo test in truck. ~ 9:38
Thanks for sharing.
Very good review of the various jump starters. I was thinking of getting the NOCO GB 70 but now looking at getting the GOOLOO GP2000 OR GP4000. Thanks!
You are welcome!
6 months ago I didn;t know these things existed , my girlfriend has a Goo Loo and I am in awe of how well it performs and the charge lasts for months ..
Thanks for the feedback.
The Autowit actually performed better than what is being displayed in this test. He put the Autowit into the discharge mode (solid tone), moving it from one battery to the other, and then having a slight delay in hitting the starter. If it had been charged up, then moved to the dead battery...and then hitting the starter when the solid tone occurred after using the count-down, the starter would have run longer.
Just placed my order for the Gooloo 4000! I have a 6.0 powerstroke, a 6.1 srt8 Charger and 8.0 v10 viper - seems like this is the perfect medium unit to buy for emergencies!
Nice!
This is the premiere product review channel on UA-cam (in the world actually).
Thanks!
I like your videos, great job. As for car jump starters, I wanted to know the voltage while it was cranking under load. Most of the modern electronic ignition cars I use or work on, the computer usually shuts off at 8.5 Volts...meaning the engine can crank and crank and crank but if the voltage drops below 8.5 volts then the ignition won't fire up the engine. During cranking in my experience the voltage still needs to stay above 8.5 volts. Any thoughts?
When I started a new job they knew I was an auto mechanic prior and one day when they had a car that wouldn't start they called me over to check it out. The car would crank and crank but the engine wouldn't fire up. Luckily the dash had a voltage meter and I noticed the voltage would drop real low as soon as the engine started cranking. I told them the battery was bad...and OMG everyone started laughing. They all said "How can?...the engine is cranking!" "nah you don't know what you're talking about!" Really? Okay do you have jumper cables?....NOPE Okay so I tried another trick, I just tapped the motor with the key just to get the starter to kick over the engine, but because it was only a "tap" when the starter load shut off I was hoping the ignition voltage would spike causing the ignition to fire as the voltage climbed back up while the inertia was still rotating the engine. So after a few taps, the engine fired right up. "DON'T TURN OFF THE ENGINE!" They never questioned my skills again....LMAO
Thanks so much! Thanks for the feedback.
Ive only just started watching your channel. Very impressed, your tests are very comprehensive. 👏
Welcome and thanks for watching!
Gooloo GP2000 is really amazing. My friend's SUV totally drained the battery without use for 3 months. We first used a jumper cable to connect a car to boost, which failed; then we used Gooloo, Wow, just tried one time, and the car started.
Anyone have experience with these after they've sat around, unused, for a couple of years? For most of us, it's not predictable when we'll need them, and it could be a long time waiting.
My son has a BEATIT G18 (21000mAh) that he received last year for Christmas. I can’t remember if it was reviewed here previously or how I selected it for him. I used it last week to jump my ‘05 Sequoia 4.7L v8 when the door was left ajar and the vehicle was parked nose in the garage. The unit showed 70% charge and my Sequoia started on the first try. So, not the same as these units but impressive. But I would bet any of the units that performed well here would show a similar result. I
I have the noco it's been about 3 years and it will start anything multiple times over without question
Regardless of which one you have you should probably pull it out and charge it every fall before the Winter time hits.
Very few reviewers will tear a product apart to see how quality its engineering and components are, so when it comes to longevity...it's a crapshoot. Some of the big review organizations like Consumer Reports will try to simulate wear and tear, but no matter what you are going to get anecdotal evidence. Take the NOCO brand. caleb has 3 years of using the product and his works great. Mine just died after 14 months of sitting in my trunk in mild weather with zero uses whatsoever. Your best bet is to look at a big review site like Amazon and see how the reviews are spread out. If the reviews are polarized with almost exclusively 5 star and 1 star reviews, chances are good that there is a major flaw in the product. If you get a decent spread of 5,4,3,2,1 star reviews then it is probably fairly reliable. That's been my experience.
I have a three year old Noco and it is still a powerhouse. I had the smaller Noco but returned it because it always failed when cold
Viking on the gas engine: No..nope..
Gooloo 400 on the gas engine: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thank you for another great comparison, I have the Gooloo 4000A on my Christmas list.
You are welcome! Nice!
Thanks for the information again. One question - having had a lithium poly jump starter for a few years now - storing charged is not good and the battery has swollen and does not work as well anymore to the point I would consider it dangerous to store. Would you consider a follow up in say a year after these have been stored in a hot car like environment fully charged and show the potential damage . I would like to know the battery chemistries , as for example the gooloo 4000 say lithium ion - but the Amazon web page says lithium polymer, which just does not store well fully charged
This was another educational video. I bet myself witch one would win overall, and I won!...get it? Anyways, thanks for the videos. I hope you're getting sponsors, or at least, you should be getting sponsors.
You are welcome!
I have had a few different brands and now that I bought a few Noco's that's all I will buy certainly worth the money .
Thanks for sharing.
A few things to consider. starting power is quite difference from that tester. that thing puts a SOLID load on the battery while an actual car puts a more "pulsating" load on the battery these batteries are much better equipped to handle millisecond "loads" as the power demand pulsates (this is my educated guess)
so far every unit I have tried even units I hate have no problem starting my V8 2002 Dodge Dakota WITH NO BATTER just the jumper. The engine usually turns off right away since the battery turns off right away as well but they ALL start it which really impressed me.
I REALLY want to like the HF Viking for its LIFE batteries that's a HUGE deal a simple massive insanely huge deal especially for something your going to use twice a year and toss in the boot.
but I have one condition for jump starters that is MANDATORY and I take no prisoners on this requirement. IT MUST be able to charge Via USB C. not output. INPUT. because when you lose that power brick its a paper weight for most people..... :-)
Thanks for the feedback.
I’d be curious to see larger all-in-one devices. I’d also love to see much larger capacity devices, like GoalZero, Jackery, and other well-known luggable units.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Watching this video again, I will note that we had a dead battery in our car, and none of the jump starters we had would do the job, and we have several that we’ve bought over the years. We ended up having to call out AAA so that we could get the car started again, and then have it hauled down to have the system checked out and the battery replaced. I noticed that the AAA technician was using a NOCO Boost Pro GB150 unit, which is what I bought. I also bought a trickle charger, so that we can keep the battery topped off while we’re not driving nearly so much in these COVID times.
I’d love to see a retest with other, higher power units like this one.
I like how all the products lie about how many amps they claim to punch out.
Its the testing method. These are designed for sudden power draw, like when you start your engine. They have capacitors that charge up and discharge at once to get the peak amperage. He's not allowing this to happen.
Those claims are usually made based on "ideal or perfect world conditions".
Meaning, in the best possible case, if all conditions are just right, it should produce X amount.
It's not so much as a lie, but a statement of ideal conditions. Where total current output is concerned that is.
In the real world, chemistry has an effect which can cause variances in performance regarding batteries of all types.
Those effects are what is seen in the results in this video.
@@hippopotamus86
Correction. Capacitors can release their stored energy all at once.
But only for a fraction of a second at best.
Far too short to ever turn over a vehicle's starter as well as provide enough voltage and current to power the ignition system long enough for the alternator to take over.
These booster's output leads are connected directly to the internal lithium battery, just behind the high current diodes which prevent the lead acid car battery from causing a seriously dangerous chemical reaction in the lithium cells leading to an explosion, as well as preventing the alternator from sending voltage and current to the lithium battery.
The only capacitors in these packs are used to filter voltages for it's display lights and the 5 volt USB output if equipped, along with varying controls offered on some models.
The "peak amperage" is just that, the very maximum the lithium battery can produce under ideal conditions.
Sadly, the real world just isn't ideal. Thus the lower ratings than advertised.
Not to mention that the very diodes which protect the battery also will limit the total current output possible due to their own limitations because of real world conditions.
An audio amplifier has a maximum wattage rating. But it is extremely difficult to obtain that maximum due to the same real world vs idea world conditions.
He performed these tests perfectly. Just as any lab worth its funding would.
EDITED: Capacitors in these packs are also used in control circuitry which handle the charging of the lithium battery.
@@theduder2617 It's not just "ideal conditions". They're essentially citing inrush current. With these instruments and ramping up the load, you're never going to see it regardless of how much they may be leaning on those "ideal conditions" to boost their claims.
The whole test setup is basically the opposite of what they're designed to power and how they're designed to work.
@@jasonf7110
But yet manufacturer tests are often similar, just with some more expensive equipment is all.
This isn't opinion here. Virtually all output specs listed are based on all components performing at absolute peak ability, with ideal chemical reactions in the cells, ideal semi-conducting abilities of the transistors and various other control features of these packs.
In real life, not all chemical reactions occur as desired. Not all resistors have or maintain proper values.
Heat is a main cause of fluctuations in the components which render ideal conditions almost impossible, hence the higher than achieved ratings.
I apologize in advance, but you will lose this debate. Not because I am being stubborn, but that you are not correct.
Inrush current is not related to, nor effects total output amperage on battery powered battery boosters. Nor is it a claim made by the manufacturers that was being put to the test.
Inrush current comes into play more so in power supplies and mains powered battery chargers/engine starters and power converters. These packs are not converting power. They are storing power, then delivering it when needed through a few components which prevent the issues I mentioned in my previous response.
If these packs were not tested correctly, I would be stating it without a doubt.
But one thing is clear with this channel, if it is a faulty or inaccurate test, it probably will not be performed as accurate as possible information is the entire point.
Gather 'round kids and pay attention, Project Farm just posted a new video!
Thank you very much!
Yep I’m here
Reporting in! o7
Did someone say Adderall
Weeeeeee
9 dislikes so far, possibly the Viking staff.
Actually actually mean the Harbour Freight staff, but yeah I wouldn’t be happy about it either that their product failed not once but twice. I have a few of their products and are happy with them but thanks to project farm, This is one product I noticed stay far far away from
@@paul62462 yeah, some harbor freight products r surprisingly good & some r not so hot. Great to have this channel to see honest reviews & testing. I'm forever promoting this channel when ppl r looking for info. Well deserved .
Chances are extremely high that the dislikes come from people who discovered that what they wanted to be real, was in fact not real. They may have seen their favorite brand not support claims made by the manufacturer.
Another possibility, they are from people who do not want new information to enter their brain.
Sadly, those sorts of people are everywhere. lol
I owe that Viking. It’s been reliable for me, but it’s fussy when hooking it up. I have to hook the clamps on to the battery before plugging into the booster if order for the light to turn green. I don’t know what that is about. It started my Farmall 756 gas on the second try.
I am convinced that early, and maybe most, dislikes are bots, not real views.
Man I swear you include harbor freight products in these test just for the comedy content. Thank you very much as always. Are we getting an oil filter test soon?
You are welcome! Thanks for the suggestion.
Sometimes the HF stuff is good value, not this time though. Great channel giving us this information.
HF stuff is mostly good, but buyer beware. You don't always get your money worth for HF stuff since it's not worth the hassle to bring back a failed power tool and hope it's before the 90-day warranty!
Well it worked b/c I laughed as usual :D
@@nickbruns4154 I've brought back that sunjoe pressure washer twice to get new ones, literally lasts me a year and I just go to get a replacement. Just try it man, they won't turn you away
You should have brought back last years winner for these to compete against
Especially the Audew.
Agreed, I was waiting to see the Audew as it has since been updated as well.
I bought the audew after the last test and it still works great.
it’s hard to find it in stock on amazon
Thanks for the suggestion.
As someone who is in product testing for a living, I am impressed time after time with your thorough methodology. Love the videos! Keep it up!
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! It means a lot!
I was thinking “These really need to be tested when they’ve half frozen.” I just had to wait 15 minutes in. No wonder I keep coming back for more!
Project Farm does a lot of research and applies it with a detailed scientific process that is easy for the consumer to make an extremely informed decision.
@@ProjectFarm You're a champ!
The thing I like about PF is that the average person can go out, duplicate his testing methodology and see if they get the same or differing results [not that I dispute his conclusions]. No multi-million dollar UL, CSA, NASA, Livermore National Laboratory needed.
Guys at Harbour Freight:
"Oh no! Here comes that Project Farm guy again!"
lol Thanks for watching.
Probably more excitement than anything. Not only does he buy product but the HF employees get to see how their product works in more extreme conditions.
I bought their Vulcan jumpstarter and it has yet to let me down. I worked at a car repair shop and among the cars it's started included a long unstarted Mercedes diesel sedan. It's started everything I've needed to start. They're always on sale, I didn't pay list price. I have no complaints with it.
Harbor freight doesn’t do too bad in these competitions overall for purposes intended.
Harbor Freight: oooooff
I wish this guy all the success in the world on UA-cam. He deserves it.
Outstanding work with all your videos. A+++++
very bad product bought 3 they all broke down after few uses
Wow, thank you!
@@Mickt6 seriously wtf are you rambling about?
If he maintains his integrity he will soon be a multimillionaire.
@@Mickt6 They are only meant for emergencies - these tiny batteries are delivering a HUGE current for their size and will quickly die with constant use... :)
Right now at Gooloo HQ:
STONKS.
🤣
Too bad their products don't last - mine died within a year after only one use - just avoid it & buy the NOCO - I know it seems expensive but it lasts longer than a few months and one use. A lot of mechanics I know have NOCO and use them every day. I was hugely skeptical given it's a lot more $$$ and bought a Gooloo instead - a total waste of money. I think the difference is the quality of the charge regulation, the Gooloo just overcharges itself and dies.
I just use another car battery lol
Or a big jump starter
@@ckm-mkc same with mine, except it died in about 3 months
Couple of hours later....
Gooloo: out of stock!
GB70: out of stock!
Thanks for watching!
Still in stock, just bought Gooloo 4000 on Amazon.
I bought a gooloo. The one I bought only lasted 1 yr. The first yr it worked amazing. It's size is another plus.
@@anandrew6641 can you please put the link for it
@@alialsebea5854 www.amazon.com/GOOLOO-SuperSafe-Starter-Battery-Portable/dp/B07QDXL1PW
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BLM981K/ref=as_li_qf_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=projectfarmyo-20&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B07BLM981K&linkId=f38fee2beeba1dd57fa9dbf440301e11
check descp next time
Hi everyone
Before buy any tool for your beautiful home Always check project farm video
Thanks for the positive comment.
@@ProjectFarm yes
Why not a third round, it’s that time of year !
Just hope that they test the tool that you are interested in. They don't test the complete line of an item, much like Consumer Reports!
@@jameskoralewski1006
If you buy them for him, I am sure that he will test them. Otherwise he buys them all.
This guy is great. He tests with out favoring any brand, he's on the side of the real consumer.
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm out of curiosity have any of the big brands tried giving you free tools/products or offered endorsements?
@WANT SÈХ - Rita 25 y.o ! OPEN MY C A N A L !!! LMAAAAAAAAAOOOOOO
@@bmm894 "To ensure an unbiased and fair review, I don’t accept sponsorships or free items." from the video description
@@Kai-K yes I seen that statement and has said that in videos.
I like that 1000A load tester. May have to buy one. :-) Fantastic testing, extremely thorough as always! A++ Thank you!
Just bought his best recommendion
You are welcome!
It reminds me of an old Sunn Vat 40 that I used to use in shop class back in high school. We had our choice of the Vat 40 (analog gauges) and Vat 60 (digital gauges). I always liked the 40.
@@ProjectFarm I have to expect a lot of your money goes into the testing equipment, not just the products tested. Thanks for what you do, please keep up the good work.
I use one at work for testing semi batteries. It's works great
Consumer Reports could learn a thing or two from you, great job! Love to see round 3.
Thanks! Thanks for the suggestion.
I see the Harbor Freight / Viking is still as useless as it was last year. In fact it might be even *worse* somehow.
Thanks for the feedback.
@@ProjectFarm You're welcome, thank you for your continued service to consumers!
This is one channel that is 100% reliable.
Thanks for the positive comment!
Agreed
1,000%
Whoever comes up with the specifications for these Chargers/ jumpers should be taken to side and flogged with a set of old jumper cables.
Thank you
“Thank you” lol
why lol
Peak amps is probably short-circuit amps.
@@mckenziekeith7434 It's likely a theoretical maximum based on the cell manufacturer's specs. The internals of the jumper limit the current long before that peak since it would be useless at 1V (or however low they would drop at the max) and would kill the cells in a short order.
"the jump starter I bought at harbor freight a year ago didn't do so well, so I bought another one" a story we've heard time and time again...
Buy cheap, buy twice...
Horrible freight makes good things. These paper weights hold paper nice and tight !!!
Well. For their hand tools I can say they hold up for what they are. Cheap tools with the same lifetime warranty as Snap-On and Matco. “Buy Once Cry Once” only works for non-lifetime tools/items. My two cents.
@@dutchynehtam i like there made in idia wrenches, anything with a battery though, just buy the real thing
@@dutchynehtam Their corded drills and angle grinders aren't half bad either. Both of mine have held up to abuse for many years without skippin a beat.