Hey just an update full credit to @heyarnoldfan12 He found this on HerHoopsStats there is a get around for Muhl if they like her better than Melbourne. Essentially the Storm can cut Muhl and bring her back after the first game on a reduced contract. via HerHoopsStats “What happens if a player on a rookie scale contract gets cut?” “The core component of rookie contracts is that the player can not have previously signed a WNBA contract. Therefore, once a player is cut from their rookie contract they become an unrestricted free agent who is no longer governed by the rookie scale. This is true even if the player is cut in training camp before their first season which regularly happens to 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.” Sounds like if they really want her, they can cut her, have her miss the first game, and then bring her back at the same salary as Melbourne.
The danger for the storm is she might get picked up by another team..if they really want her. Another option is restructuring or renegotiating another players contract to make the room (probably from player with a nonguaranteed contract..provided they are not at their VET minimum.) .
I like your logic, but I'm not quite convinced that this is inevitable. I watched the Storm coach and player interviews, and noticed two things. One is that Nika is pretty entertaining in a press conference and, it's clear the press loves her for that. They ask others about her by name. And some of the players used her name unsolicited, so I won't be surprised if they decide they need to keep her both for her skills and her box office potential. But with only 11 spots and 16 players in camp, it's pretty tough. I hope she somehow makes the team.
"The simple explanation" is the following: Nika can be a game changer because of her defensive skills even in her limited role. You "wrongly assumed" certain players of the team have guaranteed spots on the roster. Consider Nika is an "elite" defender whose offensive game, btw, has improved steadily during her years at UCONN. Left open she is deadly from three. And, she is tough. Her qualities are ones which can make a good team reach the next level. A lot of her skills and the effect she has on a game will not show up on the stat sheet. But the coaches and her teammates will greatly appreciate what she can do. "If" she doesn't make the squad, she will be off to Europe and find a spot to play.
God dang her defensive skills?? Just because she kept up with Clark?? It ain't like Clark is fast or something how did she do against hildago?? She could never keep up with fast guards so stop it with all that defensive stuff
To anthonytaylor7928 and go2hvn2008, I'll tell you what, let's let the Seattle coaching staff make that determination. She has 4 years of credentials to back her up. Clark? Just another player to Nika. To Nika, she did nothing special, just did her job. She disrupts every offense she plays against and is very quick in the transition game.
She knew it as soon as she was picked. You could see it on her face. I was heartbroken for her...terrible fate to go to the Storm. Hopefully she gets picked up by someone else. If not, she's going to crush it in Europe.
She will make the team...she is not with team today because of visa issue just like girl from Australia....what is this guy talking about is just his guess what is usually doing....all is he does is just guessing and expressing his opinion...and that annoying voice:(
@mjuza7114 why are you watching my content? If you hate my voice then don't watch. or put the video on mute and read the captions. Very easy solution. If I was giving a speech in person to you or to a group & you were attending - would you yell out about my voice ? Or if I had stutter would you yell out and mock me. I doubt it. I ask for poison but hope that it is people going after my opinion versus personal attacks on me (or my voice). BTW I know my voice is not great and my pronunciation stinks but think the content has improved since the first videos i have posted. as well can put more content out if I do it myself versus paying a voice over guy $50 a video. Anyway I understand I put content out so you are obviously free comment on it so I won''t remove your comment. You do what you need to do. All the best
@@back2sports988 I think your voice is 'heaven' and look forward to all of your incisive takes on all things women's basketball. I had lots of hate thrown at me as a child (because of my religion) and it took me years to overcome it. Your response to the 'jerk' was measured and thoughtful, just like I thought it would be.
The only reason it is not a 100% done deal is because the players you listed who are not protected are possible to get cut as well. I agree with you regarding Horston and Vivians making the roster but the other ones I'm not too sure. Time will tell and I am really hoping you are wrong on this one as I would love to see Nika thrive in Seattle.
@@back2sports988 Unfortunately I agree with them not keeping excess number of guards, particularly with Horston as a swing. For the numbers to work, they'd have to cut a 4 or 5 (Dulcy or Holmes). And I am assuming Nika couldn't take a smaller salary to get under the cap (like Stewie did for the Liberty last year.)
Seattle can cut Vivians with no guilt, because she already got her guaranteed contract paid for this year by Indiana, who cut her. It’s not a done deal.
@WBBClips - you are right they could cut Vivians guilt free. But do you think the Storm are keeping 3 PGs on their roster? Just don't see them keeping Muhl and Melbourne on the same roster as they are so similar. and then the math works better for Melbourne - as I don't see Kiana Williams (did not play in 2023) and Quay Miller (non drafted TC) making the roster which would help Muhl as they only make 64,154. All the other options - Alaina Coates, Kaela Davis Joyner Holmes and Victoria Vivians, are making 76,535. if any of those 4 make roster along with Horston and Merdjiadeu then math does not work for Muhl due to her salary by $67,249 vs Melbourne's $64154. But maybe Muhl has so impressed them that they will figure out a way for them to keep her. But if that happens then I will eat & take a lot of S _ _ _ on how wrong I was which is fair. thanks for watching
@@WBBClips this is the only league where year after year rookies get cut for someone like a Vivians. It’s insane. In the past THREE seasons, Vivians is shooting 34.6% from the field, 27.2% from 3, averaging 1.7 assists, and her team was 21-83 when she played. We can’t give a rookie a chance?
I think Nika has a chance. Seattle has a very weak training camp roster. And Seattle has likely noticed that any time they post videos from camp; all of the comments are about Nika. So, she could make the day one roster. I don’t see her being with the team all year though. She will get cut during the season. You can’t really make it in this league as a defensive specialist. You need to bring more to the table than that.
She will be on the Phoenix Mercury or the Minnesota Lynx if Seattle cuts her. She's not really that one dimensional as CC appears to be to me. Defense is a most important element in WBB...Been a UConn fan for 33 yrs...defense has always fueled their offense. I hope they don't cut her/but she will bounce right back...(or as some have suggested/Eurpope)
I think you're right. Nika's popularity is going to influence this decision. The W is desperate for attention and that goes for individual teams. What's the interest level in the Storm with Nika or without? They need her. P.S. I'm far from a UConn fan. This is why the Lynx will hold onto Alissa Pili. There is no way Alissa can play in the W which the Lynx will find out but they will not cut her.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u Cheryl Reeves made a head-scratching pick with Alyssa Peele at number 8 in the WNBA draft. Based on her first preseason game Alyssa has a huge challenge ahead.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u I couldn't agree more about Pili, Lynx Coach Reeve (and her wife) appear to be absolute social justice warriors from what I've seen from recently paying attention to the Lynx. I hate to even think this way but sure seems that there is more to the Pili pick than being the best available player in that draft which was definitely not the case at the time. We could have gotten Angel Reese (which is another story for another place) but traded away our pick 'cause Reeve already knew she wanted Pili. Pili did not impress in the first pre-season game last night, I have high hopes for her but serious doubts as well. Would be much better off with Nika (or even Reese for that matter) for many reasons. I'm from Minnesota but I think I need a different team to follow. I don't know that we need a point guard, I knew nothing about Courtney Williams until this week & so far she's awesome, but it'd still be great to pick up Nika somehow! I think Nika has the toughness and the work ethic to make it. Same story as everywhere else though, no room on the squad for several players we have, let alone adding someone else. It seems that first and second rounds would be plenty, 'cause most of the second round doesn't have much of a chance, let alone a third round.
I think it would be a mistake. They should develop her and keep her as a backup Guard. I noticed something the other day, on the WNBAs youtube nikas post draft press conference generated 28K views, the most of any video they posted from that night (besides CC). Her popularity will bring eyes back to the storm after stewie leaving. Plus Sue Bird being part of the ownership group now - i think they could find someone to cut. Either they wanna sell tickets or they dont. They could keep a no name thats not a needle mover because her stats are better on paper, but Nika does the intangibles that dont always show up on paper
You have made a good argument but I would like to suggest that you have failed to calculate an exceedingly important factor into your equation. First, for the sake of simplicity, let's just say that Nika is equally good as a player to whomever is the alternative to make the rooster. Now, since the Storm is a business, let's talk money. This year's draft had more charismatic, beautiful, large fan-following, terrific players than ever before. Of course CC is the prime example, but also Cam Brink, Angel, Kamilla, Nika, etc all have huge potential for bringing large numbers of eyeball and hence money to the game (ticket sales and TV viewing, merchandise, etc). Nika can bring literally millions of dollars in fan base sales/interest to the storm. She is a media star and only an idiot would not be able to see that. Also the Storm (with Sue Bird as one of the owners) has huge respect for the UConn culture. They can cut a number of the people you mentioned and lose little while the upside gain of giving Nika a rooster spot is too big for them to ignore. Just my two cents.
Good quantitative analysis. A fan favorite indeed. Nika played incredibly well in the Final Four semi-final game, which is more than I can say about both of UConn's first team All Americans, one of whom is going to make a roster. What do you think of Christyn William's chances to make the Storm roster?
New Recent Uconn Fan here from Minnesota. Love Nika Mühl! Huge Nika Mühl Fan, I Love Uconn! And Surprise, also a Hawkeye & Fan, Respect to everyone here, We can be a Fan of 2 programs, and you guys Really Do Have The Greatest Fans and Greatest Winning Program and School in my opinion. Im Really upset with Seattle Storm if Nika dont make The Team. And yes, I do understand the realistic workings, of various things like salary, caps, and other factors. I personally think Nika Mühl is unfairly overlooked, And also should’ve gone earlier in that Draft. Nika Single Handedly Shut Down Our Caitlin in That Rival game, taking Caitlin almost Entirely out of any impact. We All Here Instantly became Nika Mühl Fans. And I personally turned to UConn games to see what Nika was all about , and We already knew about Bueckers because Paige is a Minnesotaa girl from here. As for Nika, If Scouts, Draft Reviewers and Many others wouldve Taken a Deeper Look at Nika, they wouldve Clearly seen what We Already know. Why doesnt The Seattle Storm See Nika’s Potential, The Great Opportunity to Fine Tune Her Skills and Developement, a Future All Star Talent. It seems Those Review Boards only look at Players who score alot of points. Just Sad. I coached youth Sports 13 years in other Sports, and Defense is as important as Offense, Defense Can Honestly be The Difference to Win Championships. I mean Seriously, You guys at Uconn know How Good Nika is. Nika is a Fierce Defensive Player, That has a tireless energy that wears her opponents down to their core By the end of games, while Nika is still Going full throttle. She is Durable, Strong, Has outstanding game vision and Awareness, She Shoots Well when needs to, but spreads the Ball around to Teammates even when she has clear shots, because She sees The Greater Good of The Team, The Strategy and Gameplan. Nika Passes well with bullet like passes and Accuracy often catching opponents off guard and unaware, she Rebounds well, Nika Steals Well with her Great Hands and footwork, and often easily sneaks thru, around and by Much Bigger Defenders time and time again. When Paige got that season ending injury, it was Nika that carried alot of the load on her back. And as you all know, Nika is the all-time Uconn Assist, record holder in Uconn history. She may be abit Headstrong, but Thats Her Drive and Passion, and She Has a Fire and Devotion to Team in her that as a Coach, I see, and that is a Trademark of Quality Athlete you want on a Team that Lifts others, and Inspires Teammates to be Better. Paige is The Exact same Way in those qualities, but Im just Honoring Nika here for a point Respectfully. The Seattle Storm Seriously Should Take a Deeper Look here at Nika, Because if they dont, its gonna be Seattles loss, but Also, unfortunately, a very Sad Group of Nika Mühl Fans here at my house. I Truly Hope Beyond Hope That Nika Stays in The WNBA and is Successful and Utilized for The Talented Athlete and Beautiful Human Being She is. I know Paige Loves and Supports Nika too, -So Please Fellow Uconn Fans and Diehards, go online, Show your Support for Nika Mühl any way You Can, Let The Seattle Storm Know. And From Minnesota WE LOVE YOU Nika Mühl.!!
Coach already said it’s not necessarily an either/or for Nika/Jade as they can play them together. And they have played them together a lot during camp. This entire video is based on your assumption of who they will keep out of the unprotected players based on mins played last year. You’re also assuming they will take 2 vet minimum players instead of 1. If it was that straight forward there would be no reason for a camp at all. I think it’s unfair to call it a done deal as you don’t actually know what the coaches want and who they will choose.
@NikeSav21 - Yes I do think training camp is a show. I do think the coaches already know who is on team -unless an injury occurs. The Storm are a veteran team that needs to win now, hence they will want experience. but yes video might be unfair. but hey when I am wrong in 2 weeks you can laugh at me and tell me what an idiot I am. Or you can go ahead and call me an idiot now if you like. But the main point I was trying to make in video (likely badly) was to point out how the salary cap is very unfair (and yes I know life is unfair). However, the previous CBA used to give the rookies and advantage as they were cheap labor. Now it has been changed which makes it very hard for rookies to make teams. Why should a WNBA team invest in a rookie when can get an experienced vet for the same price. Why take a chance on Muhl when Melbourne has already played in offence for a year and is cheaper. The entire thing is crazy. If if it is going to be set up to disadvantage rookies then why not let 2nd round players choose where they want to go so the can evaluate and determine which place is the best place for them to make a roster versus them being drafted into a bad situation (a team that is very unlikely to keep them). All the best, thanks for watching
Even though I’m not a Nika Muhl fan I could still see her making it at different team. Her shooting and taking care of the ball has improved significantly in her senior yr. She would have to continue at this level thouhh.
The WNBA has an income issue.. which in order to solve they need faces on screens and butts in chairs. Nika most likely would bring a more more faces and butts than most others that will make the roster, but obviously its not just about her. New super stars like Clark may escalate the audience enough to make a league impact to change the finances.. the same as Bird, Jordan, Johnson did.. but only if the WNBA manages it properly. As a newer UCONN fan I was catching a few Lynx games to watch Juhász .. and will do the same for Sénéchal if she gets to play. I would have done the same for Storm if they keep Mühl on.. otherwise.. I don't know anyone there.
It's not unfair. It's the law. No one is above the law. It's the fault of those who forgot she neede3d a different visa. The reason is simple. She does not have an appropriate visa. It's the way our system works. She has to apply for an appropriate visa. You don't get exceptions because others think you should.
I think Nika stays in Seattle for many reasons. One of which is she is the only person from this draft class active on their team. Why would they cut the only person from this draft? Second, I think Melbourne along with Dulcy or Joyner gets cut from the team. Jade was a defensive liability last season, she was a nonfactor for the team when it counted. When you look at training camp all the point guards (Williams and Melbourne) weren't good at playmaking both in games and training camp. And Jade was their 3rd rd pick last year she only stayed because Quinn went all young last year. Also skill for skill Nika excels in her 3 pt.%, playmaking, and defense over Jade. Also for the financial side I feel they cut Joyner and use Quay Miller (even with no W experience) because drafting her and Nika puts them under the salary cap while they have 8 other player who would play a significant amount of minutes being vets. I feel that is the plan for Seattle. Especially because Quay and Nika fit the player build of the players that would be cut.
You may have something with the cut Joyner keep Miller. I don't think in a normal situation anyone cares if you keep a 2nd rounder or not but this is not a normal deal. Another good pt you made was the defensive side of the ball for Jade.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u Thanks I look at Joyner and Quay stat for stat from college and even though Quay scored less she was a better all around player. Quay had the better 3 pt.% and ball handling skills with less minutes. So, losing Joyner wouldn't hurt the team because she only averaged 3 and 3 last year so getting rid of her and Jade gives cap space for Nika and Quay
This is via HerHoopsStats “What happens if a player on a rookie scale contract gets cut?” “The core component of rookie contracts is that the player can not have previously signed a WNBA contract. Therefore, once a player is cut from their rookie contract they become an unrestricted free agent who is no longer governed by the rookie scale. This is true even if the player is cut in training camp before their first season which regularly happens to 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.” Sounds like if they really want her, they can cut her, have her miss the first game, and then bring her back at the same salary as Melbourne.
@@back2sports988 thank you. So if they really do prefer Nika to Melbourne, that could work, as long as she isn’t picked up by another team during the waiver period.
Good analysis. It would be a shame if it comes true especially for her. Never hurts a female athlete when she's attractive or even beautiful like Nika is. The Storm can definitely market her more than some of those other girls you named.
The league needs to have a guaranteed 3 rookie and 2 prior draft spot that dont count against cap below the rookie minimum like pay 35K that can be sponsored by another entity for say 30 games or so. They need to have a way these girls can develop. They can even play the other team in a rookie scrimmage before the main game and wprk on the marketing team of the team an setve as game ambassadors until they can be called up to the league. Most sports team have a minor league system.
Dang she didn't make the roster I'm just finding this out as I just woke up 😢 wait I just miss Red the tittle she hasn't been cut but your making a opinion as to why you think she won't make it ohhhhhhhh I thou she got cut
@@go2hvn2008 She came to the US from Zagreb, Croatia to UConn on a student visa. But once she got to the WNBA, her visa had to be changed to a working visa. Even if she applied for a visa change, it would take time to be granted. If she left the US with that student visa to play in Canada, she can't return to the US.
Can you answer a question for me, looking at your calculations, it looks like even if Dulcy is cut, that is not enough for Nika to make the team, as she is making less than Nika. For her to make the team, one of Vivians, Horston, or Holmes has to get cut, right?
@heyarnoldfan12 correct - she needs Vivians Horston, or holmes to get cut. as well they can't substitute those players with Alaina coates or Kaela Davis as they both make $76,535. if substituted Muhl for Dulcy you would still be over space left $353,497 if you take Dulcy out and substitute Muhl salary adds up to $354,954 putting them over cap by $1457. It is crazy that she could get cut just because her salary puts them just over cap by $1457. does this make sense?
@@back2sports988 it’s so ridiculous. If rookie player wants to make a team, they should be able to take 3K less. The WNBA is ruining her dream because she HAS TO make 3K more, which she isn’t even going to make anyway because she’s being cut because of the hypothetical 3K more! LOL!
That aged well! You have some good points, but she made it in the end. There were a lot of naysayers during her time at UConn, but she ended up a fan favourite. I really hope she can achieve the same at Seattle - wishing her all the best for her career. 🏀🏀🏀
Revealing info. Hope you are incorrect and Nika makes the cut. We all love Nika to the max. Everyone at UCONN, the team, coaches, press and fans just love her.
I am a long time scout (age 76) and writer involved with girls and women's basketball. Your analysis is some of the best online that I have heard. I am more a high school writer but have a contact who watches almost every WNBA game and is usually ahead of most GM types as to player success out of the gate. The contact leans to keeping Muhl as the better defender but it appears a close call. Previously, you asked about UCLA signee Kendall Dudley out of Sidwell Friends in DC. She is a long, high IQ forward (more 3F than 4F). She is not a prolific scorer but can do a bit of everything else (pass, rebound, defend and score some) at a high level for college.
@robertcorwin2340 thanks Robert. Any thoughts on Maddie McDaniel south Carolina? doing research on her right now. ACL injury on right knee a couple of years ago. good recovery, but re-injured knee in feb 2024. I think it is her right knee (but not 100% sure seemed like the one she was favouring a championship game when walking through handshake line. and think it is a meniscus but not sure if she had to go in for a trim or if they were able to stitch it up. The second is longer recovery but best as saves meniscus and better long term. she seems like true point guard , directing traffic and can get into lane whenever she wants. shot is ok. at SC she will not get many minutes her 1st year with Raven, MF and Te-Hina, and Tessa but if she can be patient , will be back up sophmore yr, then fight for starting spot Jr and senior years. Would love to hear if you have any thoughts on her. cheers
A few things your overlooking...I am not sold they keep all three of Horston, Holmes, and Dulcy. Here is why, Russell the backup C and has a guaranteed contract. It appears they are running a 3G,1F,1C or 3G, 2F lineup. So if your only going to have 6 on the bench do they need 3 Forwards and a Center on bench that is 4 players to backup 2 spots. And that is only leaving just 2 guards Melbourne and either Whitcomb or Vivian to backup 3 spots. So I think one of the forwards is probably going, I am going to guess Holmes because Horston is a 3/2 hybrid and they list Dulcy as a F/C hybrid, with only 6 on bench that improves their value. However I think Nika is a better shooter, defender, and passer than Melbourne but I have a suspicion they may keep both and either Holmes or Dulcy will get cut (my Guess is Holmes who also makes the money needed to make room, which is sad as she played well in the 1st preseason game) . NOW there is another option they could keep Holmes over Dulcy but force Holmes (who has an unguaranteed contract) to take a small paycut of say the about $652 needed to make up the difference in Dulcy and Muhls salaries to be able to keep Muhl. (provided they are not at their VET minimum.)
@@back2sports988 Looks like they cut Holmes to keep Muhl, I was mildly surprised they traded Melbourne to keep Kiana Williams. Because they have decided to run a 3 guard lineup the cutting of Holmes made sense, I feel for Holmes as she played well in preseason but Dulcy made less $$..Holmes was indeed at a vet minimum so that probably hurt her.
I hear the Aussie accent. But I hear a bit of NY in you. Are you an American living in Australia? Either way, I do enjoy your videos. Nika will play in the WNBA, somewhere.
Hi I am originally from Houston tx where I grew up. I have lived with my Australian wife in Australia since 2000.& we have 5 kids. I have lost my thick tx accident and people often think I am Canadian.
Throughout the season players leave teams because of injuries or for personal issues. Teams frequently bring back players dismissed in the preseason. Rival teams asses dismissed players from other teams as potential talent to add to their roster. Nika made a huge contribution to Uconn's success. They made it to the Final Four with superstar Paige Bueckers, Aaliyah Edwards the number 6 pick in the 2024 WNBA draft, and defensive stallworth Nika Muhl plus 4 freshmen. Nika was the difference maker for Uconn women's basketball. She brings unrivaled passion and intensity to the game. Most important, her play drove her team, Nika was the heart and soul of Uconn women's basketball.
She is a great defensive player, but not so much on offense. I think she will play in Europe. I was surprised she and Kate Martin were drafted. I also think Aaliyah Edwards is overrated, and it doesn't make sense she was drafted ahead of Angel Reese.
WNBA notified Nika..told her to be at the draft... she was suprised and not expecting to get a call. Sure iit makes sense....Edwards had more tools to play.. Edwards had an outside shot 15-20ft...over 60%. Reese does not have an outside shot and her strength was rebounding and shots around the basket.. hard to do wiith the taller ladies in the WNBA..
i kinda doubt vivians & holmes secure roster spots over her. usually in the w draft picks after the first round get cut but nika fills a specific niche for the storm that they need
As long as she doesn't get cut early and the Storm doesn't give up their "rights" over her as being the team that drafted her, no team can take her. May 13 (or 14, I forgot) is the deadline for finalizing rosters of all WNBA teams before the formal opening of the league on the 15th.
@go2hvn2008 That's the problem, her game has not grown since 2017. She is streaky and unreliable. Hence the reason she couldn't be a part of the new movement in Indy. Katie Lou Samuelson is a much better upgrade. I wish she could have taken Erica Wheeler with her as well.
I am guessing that your logic is based on Nika's salary being fixed because of her draft status (maybe you said that). In any event, if Nika had no chance to make the team on draft day, Seattle would have traded down and selected a role player.
Are you kidding me - a 3,000 dollar difference in pay boots Nika from the team? I bet you could get 50,000 UConn fans to kick in a buck a piece and not only cover that pay difference but leave a good amount extra - I was so looking forward to cheering the Storm on with Nika on the team - have to say - it’ll be a different team in my cheering section now
Nika though not a superstar has many positives she plays with heart and soul is kinda good looking which is more than u can say for most WNBA players she has personality and if on the right team a team that is unselfish and a place that would welcome her she will fit in AND play defense Good luck Nika rooting for u as I do most UCON players.
Just thought about it today. Why would the Storm use their first pick on Nika if they didn't have a good idea she fit their scheme? Plus Sue Bird, a UCONN alum, is in the front office. Nika broke her assist record.
that is the point. Anybody drafted by the Storm was doomed to be cut. The other option is that they cut Nika and re sign her after first game and then cut Melbourne as could bring back Nika on lower salary if cut and not signed by other teams. TBD. People feel like Victoria Vivians will be cut and Nika and Melbourne will both be kept I have seen this is comments . I don't see that happening as Vivians 6'1 averaged 17 min last season going 5pts, 3 reb, 1.3 ast. (but in not very efficient) but don't see then keeping 2 back up PG when the have Diggins-smith. So yes i think Nika will be cut. Sorry. TBD as i might be wrong.
From what I have heard, McDaniel knee injury should not have her out next season. However, with all guards back, next season is just training for her although she is very talented (plays super hard).
I do think the salary cap is ridiculous and ultimately you would think Nika won’t be on the team based off your analysis but we are not 100% sure the direction Seattle is going. I don’t see them taking Dulcy and Holmes when they have ezi, Nneka and Russell unlike last year when they only had Russell and ezi. Everything depends on the direction they going with, Nika gives them 3pt scoring and defense. Jade isn’t the best defensively but she can bring another drive and kick option. Again just depends on the direction that going and who they think they can get within the salary cap
I like the idea of no salary cap for the wnba. Each team manages their own books. If the fever want to pay Clark $3m a season they can. If they want to pay Lexi Hull $120k they can.
You are right they probably aren't taking Dulcy and Joyner one of them is getting cut plus Jade is getting cut. None of them impressed me or made a huge draw or impact in the training camp video
What do you make of Melbourne getting traded? Obviously Holmes or Vivians still has to be cut but this has to be good for Nika as the potential backup PG. the only way she doesn’t make it now is if they go with Kiana Williams as backup pg.
Might have to rethink Nika not making the Storm roster. She scored 6 points, had 3 rebounds, and 2 assists tonight against Phoenix. More importantly, she played 20 minutes, the most of any reserve and tied with two starters for the most minutes played. Not a bad beginning. If she doesn’t make the cut, it will be through no fault of her own.
It's not that Auriemma has "no idea" re: the Storm's situation -- he was just being a great coach and trying to encourage his player, especially while being filmed for a social media piece. UConn has dedicated staff focused on pro prep, so they are all very aware of the situation and spent plenty of time making Mühl aware of her odds and what she needed to do (including backup plans). That's why Mühl was visibly disappointed to be picked by the Storm, because she knew that was a guaranteed horrible outcome for her.
Both are true. Geno is trying to encourage his player. A player he absolutely loves. But at the same time, Geno has a blind spot for Nika and always thought she was better than she actually is.
Interesting. That makes sense that she would be totally aware of most teams needs at her spot. Still, I'm sure most of these girls don't have a clue during the draft
Hey, Just wanted to say thank you for your commentary in this video, and while I want to comment here, Briefly, I somehow messed up thinking I was on The Uconn school Site, and accidentally posted here earlier, with a long list of my comments, instead, while trying to rally support for Nika Mühl. My apology, No worries. but I didn’t mean to take up so much of the space here 👍
Anything can happen, but Seattle is trying to win, so most likely they are keeping the vets. If they were young, and had time to develop talent, then she would definitely stick. A good vet would have to be let go for cap space. That’s on both young players. Who says they are keeping 12 players. A lot of times they don’t.
Your assumption on the returning 10 may not be correct. That being said...I called this all along and all the Nika fans jumped all over me telling me I was wrong. There are only 144 roster spots available in the W and some of those are left empty (11 player teams). In 2023 only 15 of the 36 draftees hung around until the start of the season (much less the full season). It's VERY HARD to make a WNBA roster -- there only about 140 players in the league. The two things in her favor are: (1) Sue Bird and (2) she is attractive -- which (like it or not) has become a big thing in women's sports and it drives revenue. If she were an ugly duckling, she would have zero chance of sticking IMO.
Interesting (and sad) analysis. I'm a huskie's fan and would love Nika to stay in the states. Question - if Seattle cuts her, can another WNBA team pick her up? Also, could she agree to take $3k less to get under the cap?
@B_kinda It could have been much worse. At the end of the video, I had Christy from Dance moms saying once again Chole was set up to fail (yes I know Dance Moms as I have daughters). Still not sure if I should have left that in but figured I was going to make people mad enough with this video, that best not to put it in.
The depressing part (or one of the many depressing parts) is that the Storm's WNBA salary cap is a rounding error on an NBA team. BTW, I heard on the news today that the NBA is signing multi-billion dollar TV contracts, 3 times as mush as the current one. Could they throw a few million to the WNBA salaries,,,,,,?
The only reason I’m interested in watching the Storm is because of Nika. They can grow the sport or they could repeat the years in the past when teams won championships and no one cared.
Same here and I could care less about UConn to be blunt. But Nika gets my attention and eyeballs are critical to these individual teams now. They have a higher awareness about it now then ever.
Even though I am a Caitlin Clark and Iowa team fan, I really appreciated this young woman’s talent guarding Clark. She is entertaining. I hope someone picks her up.
To get good players like Diggins-Smith & Ogwumike this year plus Loyd's , Whitcombs & Russells salary it's a shame the Storm can only have 11 players. This tells you something is wrong with the salary cap & it needs to change. Seattle only had 11 last year too. Dulcy won't be cut because she played whey beyond expectations last year. I saw the 4th quarter of the game against LA & Miller,Williams Davis looked bad. They won't cut Muir they need solid guards. The taller Centers & Forwards will be cut. It makes more sense to have Muir & Melborne come in for the second team when starters take a break on the bench. Looks like Coates, Holmes's, Williams, Davis, Miller or Vivians is on the chopping block. WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert needs to go. The players have to wait until 2027 for the next players bargaining agreement. All the players want changes now. Such a Joke. If they want more people to come to the games they have to infuse more $ in the salary cap.
Sue Bird just bought into ownership of the Storm. Having followed Bird since her freshman year at UConn, it’s not in her character to cut Nika. I understand it’s not up to her, but business is business. Nika is a huge draw and a point guard like Bird. I use don’t see it happening.
That was the press release, but I never see what percentage she bought/received. And it wasn't released if the percentage was bought or gifted or an exchange of some sort. I doubt it gives her a voice at the table, especially not a vote.
Salary caps are wat they are and it sucks for her. But it aint over till it is over. Even if she gets cut for those reasons. Who says she wont get picked up off of waivers to a team that will need a back up PG. If not she for sure will play overseas
Hey Back2sports just thought I would give you the heads up on Jade Melbourne being traded to Washington Mystics before the haters get at you, bro. It still doesn't guarantee that Nika Muhl will there (at the Storm) permanently. She could make the squad initially yet be traded for a better more experienced player later in the season.
Hey Calvin , yep saw it thx. Working on a wnba preview video but can't get.out tonight as it is long. But talk about Muhl in it. Hope to have it up soon. Cheers
@@back2sports988 I also just saw that Veronica Burton the 7th overall pick in 2022 WNBA draft just got waived by the Dallas Wings. It's sad but she can really play too.
The economic scale of this moribund league is miniscule because women and men are flocking to NBA games and not WNBA games...This league...quite frankly...wouldn't even exist if it wasn't being heavily subsidized by the NBA...In the long-term...Nika will rebound and be just fine...
It’s not TBD. They either keep her and move off one of Holmes or Dulcey, or they waive her. If they waive her, she can be claimed by a team off waivers. If she clears waivers, she can re-sign 11 days into the season.
Hey just an update full credit to @heyarnoldfan12
He found this on HerHoopsStats there is a get around for Muhl if they like her better than Melbourne.
Essentially the Storm can cut Muhl and bring her back after the first game on a reduced contract.
via HerHoopsStats
“What happens if a player on a rookie scale contract gets cut?”
“The core component of rookie contracts is that the player can not have previously signed a WNBA contract. Therefore, once a player is cut from their rookie contract they become an unrestricted free agent who is no longer governed by the rookie scale. This is true even if the player is cut in training camp before their first season which regularly happens to 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.”
Sounds like if they really want her, they can cut her, have her miss the first game, and then bring her back at the same salary as Melbourne.
All good we all make mistakes as I miss Red the tittle 😂😅
The CBA stinks?
40% from 3. But that doesn't change the salary cap.
Totally agree with you on the flawed approaches the WNBA has to the operation of their league. Its all counter productive.
The danger for the storm is she might get picked up by another team..if they really want her. Another option is restructuring or renegotiating another players contract to make the room (probably from player with a nonguaranteed contract..provided they are not at their VET minimum.) .
I like your logic, but I'm not quite convinced that this is inevitable. I watched the Storm coach and player interviews, and noticed two things. One is that Nika is pretty entertaining in a press conference and, it's clear the press loves her for that. They ask others about her by name. And some of the players used her name unsolicited, so I won't be surprised if they decide they need to keep her both for her skills and her box office potential. But with only 11 spots and 16 players in camp, it's pretty tough. I hope she somehow makes the team.
Sorry, the reason she won’t make the team is because she has VISA problems, nothing more.
Why do they draft so many for so few spots? Very small percentage will make the team. Should just play over seas closer to her family.
"The simple explanation" is the following: Nika can be a game changer because of her defensive skills even in her limited role. You "wrongly assumed" certain players of the team have guaranteed spots on the roster. Consider Nika is an "elite" defender whose offensive game, btw, has improved steadily during her years at UCONN. Left open she is deadly from three. And, she is tough. Her qualities are ones which can make a good team reach the next level. A lot of her skills and the effect she has on a game will not show up on the stat sheet. But the coaches and her teammates will greatly appreciate what she can do.
"If" she doesn't make the squad, she will be off to Europe and find a spot to play.
God dang her defensive skills?? Just because she kept up with Clark?? It ain't like Clark is fast or something how did she do against hildago?? She could never keep up with fast guards so stop it with all that defensive stuff
Nika is not an elite defender.
To anthonytaylor7928 and go2hvn2008, I'll tell you what, let's let the Seattle coaching staff make that determination. She has 4 years of credentials to back her up. Clark? Just another player to Nika. To Nika, she did nothing special, just did her job. She disrupts every offense she plays against and is very quick in the transition game.
yeah the assumption that vivians & holmes are getting roster spots over her gave me whiplash
@@anthonytaylor7928stop basing your opinions on players off a single tourney game 👍
New Seattle Times headline: Storm trade point guard Jade Melbourne to Mystics for 2025 draft pick.
Yes thx for the update
Nika is a better passer, a better defender, and is better at the 3 point line. Melbourne is in trouble and so is Vivians, not Nika.
Where was Muhl last night?
@@go2hvn2008 She and Magbegor had student visa problems that kept them out of the country.
She knew it as soon as she was picked. You could see it on her face. I was heartbroken for her...terrible fate to go to the Storm. Hopefully she gets picked up by someone else. If not, she's going to crush it in Europe.
She will make the team...she is not with team today because of visa issue just like girl from Australia....what is this guy talking about is just his guess what is usually doing....all is he does is just guessing and expressing his opinion...and that annoying voice:(
Come on. I doubt she knew anything about Seattle.
@mjuza7114 why are you watching my content? If you hate my voice then don't watch.
or put the video on mute and read the captions. Very easy solution.
If I was giving a speech in person to you or to a group & you were attending - would you yell out about my voice ? Or if I had stutter would you yell out and mock me. I doubt it. I ask for poison but hope that it is people going after my opinion versus personal attacks on me (or my voice).
BTW I know my voice is not great and my pronunciation stinks but think the content has improved since the first videos i have posted. as well can put more content out if I do it myself versus paying a voice over guy $50 a video.
Anyway I understand I put content out so you are obviously free comment on it so I won''t remove your comment.
You do what you need to do.
All the best
@@back2sports988 I think your voice is 'heaven' and look forward to all of your incisive takes on all things women's basketball. I had lots of hate thrown at me as a child (because of my religion) and it took me years to overcome it. Your response to the 'jerk' was measured and thoughtful, just like I thought it would be.
@@back2sports988 Well stated. 100% respect for you. Keep up the excellent work and videos.
4 Skylar Diggins-Smith
6 Jade Melbourne
1 Nika Mühl
24 Jewell Loyd
32 Sami Whitcomb
23 Jordan Horston
3 Nneka Ogwumike
12 Dulcy Fankam Mendjiadeu
8 Joyner Holmes
13 Ezi Magbegor
21 Mercedes Russell
When the Storm face Caitlin Clark they will need Nika's defense. She played CC tougher than anybody.
So u just gonna just dismiss raven Johnson picking Clark's pocket four times in the second half??
@@anthonytaylor7928 Good point.
No, she did not.Give that honor to Raven Johnson, a National Championship player.
@@anthonytaylor7928Agree with you 💯 👏 👌 Raven is a National Championship player, Muhl is not.
@@anthonytaylor7928I think Raven & Nika did equally as well as each other against Clark. The refs simply cheated UConn at the end of the game.
The only reason it is not a 100% done deal is because the players you listed who are not protected are possible to get cut as well. I agree with you regarding Horston and Vivians making the roster but the other ones I'm not too sure. Time will tell and I am really hoping you are wrong on this one as I would love to see Nika thrive in Seattle.
I am sort of neutral as watched the Caps play and like Melbourne. But don't see the Storm keeping 2 backup PGs.
@@back2sports988 Unfortunately I agree with them not keeping excess number of guards, particularly with Horston as a swing. For the numbers to work, they'd have to cut a 4 or 5 (Dulcy or Holmes). And I am assuming Nika couldn't take a smaller salary to get under the cap (like Stewie did for the Liberty last year.)
Seattle can cut Vivians with no guilt, because she already got her guaranteed contract paid for this year by Indiana, who cut her. It’s not a done deal.
@WBBClips - you are right they could cut Vivians guilt free. But do you think the Storm are keeping 3 PGs on their roster? Just don't see them keeping Muhl and Melbourne on the same roster as they are so similar. and then the math works better for Melbourne - as I don't see Kiana Williams (did not play in 2023) and Quay Miller (non drafted TC) making the roster which would help Muhl as they only make 64,154. All the other options - Alaina Coates, Kaela Davis Joyner Holmes and Victoria Vivians, are making 76,535. if any of those 4 make roster along with Horston and Merdjiadeu then math does not work for Muhl due to her salary by $67,249 vs Melbourne's $64154.
But maybe Muhl has so impressed them that they will figure out a way for them to keep her. But if that happens then I will eat & take a lot of S _ _ _ on how wrong I was which is fair.
thanks for watching
@@back2sports988 Seattle started Vivians in the preseason game today, so maybe she’s doing better than I thought.
@@back2sports988Vivians wasn't cut! I'm her cousin! She asked for a buy out! She'll be fine!
@@WBBClips lol nika had visa problems bud the game was in canada she couldnt play
@@WBBClips this is the only league where year after year rookies get cut for someone like a Vivians. It’s insane. In the past THREE seasons, Vivians is shooting 34.6% from the field, 27.2% from 3, averaging 1.7 assists, and her team was 21-83 when she played. We can’t give a rookie a chance?
I think Nika has a chance. Seattle has a very weak training camp roster. And Seattle has likely noticed that any time they post videos from camp; all of the comments are about Nika.
So, she could make the day one roster. I don’t see her being with the team all year though. She will get cut during the season. You can’t really make it in this league as a defensive specialist. You need to bring more to the table than that.
…and that is too bad. I have not been impressed by WNBA defensive play. Nika is also a good feeder that could lead the team in assists.
She will be on the Phoenix Mercury or the Minnesota Lynx if Seattle cuts her. She's not really that one dimensional as CC appears to be to me. Defense is a most important element in WBB...Been a UConn fan for 33 yrs...defense has always fueled their offense. I hope they don't cut her/but she will bounce right back...(or as some have suggested/Eurpope)
I think you're right. Nika's popularity is going to influence this decision. The W is desperate for attention and that goes for individual teams. What's the interest level in the Storm with Nika or without? They need her. P.S. I'm far from a UConn fan. This is why the Lynx will hold onto Alissa Pili. There is no way Alissa can play in the W which the Lynx will find out but they will not cut her.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u Cheryl Reeves made a head-scratching pick with Alyssa Peele at number 8 in the WNBA draft. Based on her first preseason game Alyssa has a huge challenge ahead.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u I couldn't agree more about Pili, Lynx Coach Reeve (and her wife) appear to be absolute social justice warriors from what I've seen from recently paying attention to the Lynx. I hate to even think this way but sure seems that there is more to the Pili pick than being the best available player in that draft which was definitely not the case at the time. We could have gotten Angel Reese (which is another story for another place) but traded away our pick 'cause Reeve already knew she wanted Pili. Pili did not impress in the first pre-season game last night, I have high hopes for her but serious doubts as well. Would be much better off with Nika (or even Reese for that matter) for many reasons. I'm from Minnesota but I think I need a different team to follow.
I don't know that we need a point guard, I knew nothing about Courtney Williams until this week & so far she's awesome, but it'd still be great to pick up Nika somehow! I think Nika has the toughness and the work ethic to make it. Same story as everywhere else though, no room on the squad for several players we have, let alone adding someone else.
It seems that first and second rounds would be plenty, 'cause most of the second round doesn't have much of a chance, let alone a third round.
I think it would be a mistake. They should develop her and keep her as a backup Guard. I noticed something the other day, on the WNBAs youtube nikas post draft press conference generated 28K views, the most of any video they posted from that night (besides CC). Her popularity will bring eyes back to the storm after stewie leaving. Plus Sue Bird being part of the ownership group now - i think they could find someone to cut. Either they wanna sell tickets or they dont. They could keep a no name thats not a needle mover because her stats are better on paper, but Nika does the intangibles that dont always show up on paper
Are u new to the wnba draft?? Their is no such thing as player development especially how low she was drafted
You have made a good argument but I would like to suggest that you have failed to calculate an exceedingly important factor into your equation.
First, for the sake of simplicity, let's just say that Nika is equally good as a player to whomever is the alternative to make the rooster.
Now, since the Storm is a business, let's talk money. This year's draft had more charismatic, beautiful, large fan-following, terrific players than ever before. Of course CC is the prime example, but also Cam Brink, Angel, Kamilla, Nika, etc all have huge potential for bringing large numbers of eyeball and hence money to the game (ticket sales and TV viewing, merchandise, etc). Nika can bring literally millions of dollars in fan base sales/interest to the storm. She is a media star and only an idiot would not be able to see that. Also the Storm (with Sue Bird as one of the owners) has huge respect for the UConn culture. They can cut a number of the people you mentioned and lose little while the upside gain of giving Nika a rooster spot is too big for them to ignore.
Just my two cents.
Sure. We will find out soon. If I am wrong I will eat it!
Good quantitative analysis. A fan favorite indeed. Nika played incredibly well in the Final Four semi-final game, which is more than I can say about both of UConn's first team All Americans, one of whom is going to make a roster.
What do you think of Christyn William's chances to make the Storm roster?
If they couldn’t afford her to play they shouldn’t have drafted her in first place and let her go somewhere else to play
Uconn politics 😂
New Recent Uconn Fan here from Minnesota. Love Nika Mühl! Huge Nika Mühl Fan,
I Love Uconn! And Surprise, also a Hawkeye & Fan, Respect to everyone here, We can be a Fan of 2 programs, and you guys Really Do Have The Greatest Fans and Greatest Winning Program and School in my opinion. Im Really upset with Seattle Storm if Nika dont make The Team. And yes, I do understand the realistic workings, of various things like salary, caps, and other factors. I personally think Nika Mühl is unfairly overlooked, And also should’ve gone earlier in that Draft. Nika Single Handedly Shut Down Our Caitlin in That Rival game, taking Caitlin almost Entirely out of any impact. We All Here Instantly became Nika Mühl Fans. And I personally turned to UConn games to see what Nika was all about , and We already knew about Bueckers because Paige is a Minnesotaa girl from here. As for Nika,
If Scouts, Draft Reviewers and Many others wouldve Taken a Deeper Look at Nika, they wouldve Clearly seen what We Already know. Why doesnt The Seattle Storm See Nika’s Potential, The Great Opportunity to Fine Tune Her Skills and Developement, a Future All Star Talent. It seems Those Review Boards only look at Players who score alot of points. Just Sad.
I coached youth Sports 13 years in other Sports, and Defense is as important as Offense, Defense Can Honestly be The Difference to Win Championships. I mean Seriously, You guys at Uconn know How Good Nika is.
Nika is a Fierce Defensive Player, That has a tireless energy that wears her opponents down to their core By the end of games, while Nika is still Going full throttle. She is Durable, Strong, Has outstanding game vision and Awareness, She Shoots Well when needs to, but spreads the Ball around to Teammates even when she has clear shots, because She sees The Greater Good of The Team, The Strategy and Gameplan. Nika Passes well with bullet like passes and Accuracy often catching opponents off guard and unaware, she Rebounds well, Nika Steals Well with her Great Hands and footwork, and often easily sneaks thru, around and by Much Bigger Defenders time and time again. When Paige got that season ending injury, it was Nika that carried alot of the load on her back. And as you all know, Nika is the all-time Uconn Assist, record holder in Uconn history. She may be abit Headstrong, but Thats Her Drive and Passion, and She Has a Fire and Devotion to Team in her that as a Coach, I see, and that is a Trademark of Quality Athlete you want on a Team that Lifts others, and Inspires Teammates to be Better.
Paige is The Exact same Way in those qualities, but Im just Honoring Nika here for a point Respectfully. The Seattle Storm Seriously Should Take a Deeper Look here at Nika, Because if they dont, its gonna be Seattles loss,
but Also, unfortunately, a very Sad Group of Nika Mühl Fans here at my house. I Truly Hope Beyond Hope That Nika Stays in The WNBA and is Successful and Utilized for The Talented Athlete and Beautiful Human Being She is. I know Paige Loves and Supports Nika too,
-So Please Fellow Uconn Fans and Diehards, go online, Show your Support for Nika Mühl any way You Can, Let The Seattle Storm Know.
And From Minnesota WE LOVE YOU Nika Mühl.!!
Coach already said it’s not necessarily an either/or for Nika/Jade as they can play them together. And they have played them together a lot during camp. This entire video is based on your assumption of who they will keep out of the unprotected players based on mins played last year. You’re also assuming they will take 2 vet minimum players instead of 1. If it was that straight forward there would be no reason for a camp at all. I think it’s unfair to call it a done deal as you don’t actually know what the coaches want and who they will choose.
@NikeSav21 - Yes I do think training camp is a show. I do think the coaches already know who is on team -unless an injury occurs. The Storm are a veteran team that needs to win now, hence they will want experience. but yes video might be unfair. but hey when I am wrong in 2 weeks you can laugh at me and tell me what an idiot I am. Or you can go ahead and call me an idiot now if you like.
But the main point I was trying to make in video (likely badly) was to point out how the salary cap is very unfair (and yes I know life is unfair). However, the previous CBA used to give the rookies and advantage as they were cheap labor. Now it has been changed which makes it very hard for rookies to make teams. Why should a WNBA team invest in a rookie when can get an experienced vet for the same price. Why take a chance on Muhl when Melbourne has already played in offence for a year and is cheaper. The entire thing is crazy. If if it is going to be set up to disadvantage rookies then why not let 2nd round players choose where they want to go so the can evaluate and determine which place is the best place for them to make a roster versus them being drafted into a bad situation (a team that is very unlikely to keep them).
All the best, thanks for watching
Even though I’m not a Nika Muhl fan I could still see her making it at different team. Her shooting and taking care of the ball has improved significantly in her senior yr. She would have to continue at this level thouhh.
Yeah, those 2 skills have improved. And, man, her defense is something else.
Wow, I had no idea you live in Australia. How did you end up there?
The WNBA has an income issue.. which in order to solve they need faces on screens and butts in chairs. Nika most likely would bring a more more faces and butts than most others that will make the roster, but obviously its not just about her. New super stars like Clark may escalate the audience enough to make a league impact to change the finances.. the same as Bird, Jordan, Johnson did.. but only if the WNBA manages it properly. As a newer UCONN fan I was catching a few Lynx games to watch Juhász .. and will do the same for Sénéchal if she gets to play. I would have done the same for Storm if they keep Mühl on.. otherwise.. I don't know anyone there.
It's not unfair. It's the law. No one is above the law. It's the fault of those who forgot she neede3d a different visa. The reason is simple. She does not have an appropriate visa. It's the way our system works.
She has to apply for an appropriate visa. You don't get exceptions because others think you should.
Very informative, thanks!
She is pretty and also plays defense.
She will make it.
Bet that.
I think Nika stays in Seattle for many reasons. One of which is she is the only person from this draft class active on their team. Why would they cut the only person from this draft? Second, I think Melbourne along with Dulcy or Joyner gets cut from the team. Jade was a defensive liability last season, she was a nonfactor for the team when it counted. When you look at training camp all the point guards (Williams and Melbourne) weren't good at playmaking both in games and training camp. And Jade was their 3rd rd pick last year she only stayed because Quinn went all young last year. Also skill for skill Nika excels in her 3 pt.%, playmaking, and defense over Jade. Also for the financial side I feel they cut Joyner and use Quay Miller (even with no W experience) because drafting her and Nika puts them under the salary cap while they have 8 other player who would play a significant amount of minutes being vets. I feel that is the plan for Seattle. Especially because Quay and Nika fit the player build of the players that would be cut.
You may have something with the cut Joyner keep Miller. I don't think in a normal situation anyone cares if you keep a 2nd rounder or not but this is not a normal deal. Another good pt you made was the defensive side of the ball for Jade.
@@user-mm2bk2uu1u Thanks I look at Joyner and Quay stat for stat from college and even though Quay scored less she was a better all around player. Quay had the better 3 pt.% and ball handling skills with less minutes. So, losing Joyner wouldn't hurt the team because she only averaged 3 and 3 last year so getting rid of her and Jade gives cap space for Nika and Quay
Jade Melbourne was traded today. Fingers still crossed for Nika :)
No. You put Holmes and Vivians on the roster to make that math work. We don't know that.
Maybe Nika could play poker with the Storm owners & have a 'lucky' day winning a lot of $$ ;)
Holmes and Vivians are EXPERIENCED wnba players, they will both make the roster.
They aren’t gonna cut her, she’s bringing so many ticket sales and she’s not bad at all
Aw stop it
That is ridiculous 😂
Great video man, it is unfortunate but the business is the business. Thanks for keeping it real
Thanks
This is via HerHoopsStats
“What happens if a player on a rookie scale contract gets cut?”
“The core component of rookie contracts is that the player can not have previously signed a WNBA contract. Therefore, once a player is cut from their rookie contract they become an unrestricted free agent who is no longer governed by the rookie scale. This is true even if the player is cut in training camp before their first season which regularly happens to 2nd and 3rd round draft picks.”
Sounds like if they really want her, they can cut her, have her miss the first game, and then bring her back at the same salary as Melbourne.
@heyarnoldfan12 wow good job by you. I am going to post this at the top of the comments and give you credit. great job by you!
@@back2sports988 thank you. So if they really do prefer Nika to Melbourne, that could work, as long as she isn’t picked up by another team during the waiver period.
Good analysis. It would be a shame if it comes true especially for her. Never hurts a female athlete when she's attractive or even beautiful like Nika is. The Storm can definitely market her more than some of those other girls you named.
The league needs to have a guaranteed 3 rookie and 2 prior draft spot that dont count against cap below the rookie minimum like pay 35K that can be sponsored by another entity for say 30 games or so. They need to have a way these girls can develop. They can even play the other team in a rookie scrimmage before the main game and wprk on the marketing team of the team an setve as game ambassadors until they can be called up to the league. Most sports team have a minor league system.
Dang she didn't make the roster I'm just finding this out as I just woke up 😢 wait I just miss Red the tittle she hasn't been cut but your making a opinion as to why you think she won't make it ohhhhhhhh I thou she got cut
Congratulations Nika Mühl on your graduation. It will be cool if you and Aliyah Edwards can join the rest of the UConn graduating class. 👩🎓
Oh, is that where Muhl was? Why was Edwards playing and Muhl not?
@@go2hvn2008 She came to the US from Zagreb, Croatia to UConn on a student visa. But once she got to the WNBA, her visa had to be changed to a working visa. Even if she applied for a visa change, it would take time to be granted. If she left the US with that student visa to play in Canada, she can't return to the US.
Can you answer a question for me, looking at your calculations, it looks like even if Dulcy is cut, that is not enough for Nika to make the team, as she is making less than Nika. For her to make the team, one of Vivians, Horston, or Holmes has to get cut, right?
@heyarnoldfan12
correct - she needs Vivians Horston, or holmes to get cut. as well they can't substitute those players with Alaina coates or Kaela Davis as they both make $76,535. if substituted Muhl for Dulcy you would still be over space left $353,497 if you take Dulcy out and substitute Muhl salary adds up to $354,954 putting them over cap by $1457. It is crazy that she could get cut just because her salary puts them just over cap by $1457.
does this make sense?
@@back2sports988 it’s so ridiculous. If rookie player wants to make a team, they should be able to take 3K less. The WNBA is ruining her dream because she HAS TO make 3K more, which she isn’t even going to make anyway because she’s being cut because of the hypothetical 3K more! LOL!
That aged well! You have some good points, but she made it in the end. There were a lot of naysayers during her time at UConn, but she ended up a fan favourite. I really hope she can achieve the same at Seattle - wishing her all the best for her career. 🏀🏀🏀
I am not going to mock you or feed you any poison. This was a great video that was informative using logic. Great Job!
thanks - getting a lot of feedback on this video and a lot of it is not so great. oh well
He does his research and is spot on 95%of the time.
@@go2hvn2008 I am right a 100% of the times except for the 60% of the time I get it wrong. LOL
out with the old in with the new the W has to keep the momentum we know nika shes a u.s. player keep our guys!!!
The salary she is offered is shameful and disgusting even if she DOES have other sources of money!
Muhl might get a look from the Lynx if she gets cut. A couple other teams will consider her
Revealing info. Hope you are incorrect and Nika makes the cut. We all love Nika to the max. Everyone at UCONN, the team, coaches, press and fans just love her.
I am a long time scout (age 76) and writer involved with girls and women's basketball. Your analysis is some of the best online that I have heard.
I am more a high school writer but have a contact who watches almost every WNBA game and is usually ahead of most GM types as to player success out of the gate. The contact leans to keeping Muhl as the better defender but it appears a close call.
Previously, you asked about UCLA signee Kendall Dudley out of Sidwell Friends in DC. She is a long, high IQ forward (more 3F than 4F). She is not a prolific scorer but can do a bit of everything else (pass, rebound, defend and score some) at a high level for college.
@robertcorwin2340 thanks Robert. Any thoughts on Maddie McDaniel south Carolina? doing research on her right now. ACL injury on right knee a couple of years ago. good recovery, but re-injured knee in feb 2024. I think it is her right knee (but not 100% sure seemed like the one she was favouring a championship game when walking through handshake line. and think it is a meniscus but not sure if she had to go in for a trim or if they were able to stitch it up. The second is longer recovery but best as saves meniscus and better long term. she seems like true point guard , directing traffic and can get into lane whenever she wants. shot is ok. at SC she will not get many minutes her 1st year with Raven, MF and Te-Hina, and Tessa but if she can be patient , will be back up sophmore yr, then fight for starting spot Jr and senior years. Would love to hear if you have any thoughts on her. cheers
I came looking for you immediately after I got the news lol. Glad you were wrong, phew
Did she make the team?
@@back2sports988 Very likely she will. Melbourne is gone
A few things your overlooking...I am not sold they keep all three of Horston, Holmes, and Dulcy. Here is why, Russell the backup C and has a guaranteed contract. It appears they are running a 3G,1F,1C or 3G, 2F lineup. So if your only going to have 6 on the bench do they need 3 Forwards and a Center on bench that is 4 players to backup 2 spots. And that is only leaving just 2 guards Melbourne and either Whitcomb or Vivian to backup 3 spots. So I think one of the forwards is probably going, I am going to guess Holmes because Horston is a 3/2 hybrid and they list Dulcy as a F/C hybrid, with only 6 on bench that improves their value. However I think Nika is a better shooter, defender, and passer than Melbourne but I have a suspicion they may keep both and either Holmes or Dulcy will get cut (my Guess is Holmes who also makes the money needed to make room, which is sad as she played well in the 1st preseason game) . NOW there is another option they could keep Holmes over Dulcy but force Holmes (who has an unguaranteed contract) to take a small paycut of say the about $652 needed to make up the difference in Dulcy and Muhls salaries to be able to keep Muhl. (provided they are not at their VET minimum.)
Will see. I might be wrong. TBD
@@back2sports988 Looks like they cut Holmes to keep Muhl, I was mildly surprised they traded Melbourne to keep Kiana Williams. Because they have decided to run a 3 guard lineup the cutting of Holmes made sense, I feel for Holmes as she played well in preseason but Dulcy made less $$..Holmes was indeed at a vet minimum so that probably hurt her.
I hear the Aussie accent. But I hear a bit of NY in you. Are you an American living in Australia?
Either way, I do enjoy your videos. Nika will play in the WNBA, somewhere.
Hi I am originally
from Houston tx where I grew up. I have lived with my Australian wife in Australia since 2000.& we have 5 kids. I have lost my thick tx accident and people often think I am Canadian.
Wait so why draft someone you don’t need? I’m trying to follow this league but it’s confusing.
Probably not a coincidence that Nika played for UCONN and Sue Bird is still deeply involved with the Storm.
Throughout the season players leave teams because of injuries or for personal issues. Teams frequently bring back players dismissed in the preseason. Rival teams asses dismissed players from other teams as potential talent to add to their roster. Nika made a huge contribution to Uconn's success. They made it to the Final Four with superstar Paige Bueckers, Aaliyah Edwards the number 6 pick in the 2024 WNBA draft, and defensive stallworth Nika Muhl plus 4 freshmen. Nika was the difference maker for Uconn women's basketball. She brings unrivaled passion and intensity to the game. Most important, her play drove her team, Nika was the heart and soul of Uconn women's basketball.
I guess ur new to the party with the wnba draft go check out last years draft half of the draft got cut
Last year only 15/36 made a team. Its not that they don't need them but i guess you can't just say pass when they say you are on the clock
She is a great defensive player, but not so much on offense. I think she will play in Europe. I was surprised she and Kate Martin were drafted.
I also think Aaliyah Edwards is overrated, and it doesn't make sense she was drafted ahead of Angel Reese.
WNBA notified Nika..told her to be at the draft... she was suprised and not expecting to get a call.
Sure iit makes sense....Edwards had more tools to play.. Edwards had an outside shot 15-20ft...over 60%. Reese does not have an outside shot and her strength was rebounding and shots around the basket.. hard to do wiith the taller ladies in the WNBA..
She made it♥️
i kinda doubt vivians & holmes secure roster spots over her. usually in the w draft picks after the first round get cut but nika fills a specific niche for the storm that they need
If the Storm cut her for whatever reason, I would like to see her end up on the Sparks somehow.
You should not make such assumptions. It serves no useful purpose.
That 's all logical. I don't know all of those other players you mentioned. so I am not certain you are right. But you made a good case.
Could Muhl get picked up by another WNBA team before the start of the season?
As long as she doesn't get cut early and the Storm doesn't give up their "rights" over her as being the team that drafted her, no team can take her. May 13 (or 14, I forgot) is the deadline for finalizing rosters of all WNBA teams before the formal opening of the league on the 15th.
Seattle cut Alaina Coates today freeing up $76,535 .That should free up the cap space for Muhl over Melbourne if that is Quinn's choice.
Redid the math ..it is still not enough cap room to sign her vs Melbourne .
$3,082 over w/Muhl rookie salary
Imagine keeping bricktoria vivians. What a tragedy
Don't talk about Vivians like that, such disrespect to a player whose MS team beat UCONN in 2017.
@go2hvn2008 That's the problem, her game has not grown since 2017. She is streaky and unreliable. Hence the reason she couldn't be a part of the new movement in Indy. Katie Lou Samuelson is a much better upgrade. I wish she could have taken Erica Wheeler with her as well.
@@go2hvn2008 He’s not wrong, though. She should be laying bricks for some construction firm, considering how many she throws up in WNBA.
It appears Nika DID make the Seattle Storm roster. She acquitted herself very well in yesterday's exhibition game.
Sue Bird becoming apart of the franchise i think Nika will make it
That would not be fair.
I don't second guess. We will see if she is cut, and, whether another US team picks her up.
If not, Europe is there.
I am guessing that your logic is based on Nika's salary being fixed because of her draft status (maybe you said that). In any event, if Nika had no chance to make the team on draft day, Seattle would have traded down and selected a role player.
Yes, because they had to draft someone. Whoever they drafted.was.doomed.
Legit analysis at the time. But Melbourne just got traded today to the Mystics for a 3rd round pick next year. Nika beat the odds.
Seems.like.
Seattle traded Melbourne to the Mystics for a future third round pick. Drama officially over. Nika Mühl makes the final roster. 😊
America and UConn fans can sleep easy again. So is Vivian being cut or will Nika bet cut and brought back on cheaper deal to fit her under the cap?
Are you kidding me - a 3,000 dollar difference in pay boots Nika from the team? I bet you could get 50,000 UConn fans to kick in a buck a piece and not only cover that pay difference but leave a good amount extra - I was so looking forward to cheering the Storm on with Nika on the team - have to say - it’ll be a different team in my cheering section now
Nika though not a superstar has many positives she plays with heart and soul is kinda good looking which is more than u can say for most WNBA players she has personality and if on the right team a team that is unselfish and a place that would welcome her she will fit in AND play defense Good luck Nika rooting for u as I do most UCON players.
Melbourne was balling out in the WBL.
Marginal WNBA players are superstars when they play in the WNBL. Ask him.
Melbourne is a far better player.
Ummm. Wrong! Your girl got traded to the mystics.
Just thought about it today. Why would the Storm use their first pick on Nika if they didn't have a good idea she fit their scheme? Plus Sue Bird, a UCONN alum, is in the front office. Nika broke her assist record.
that is the point. Anybody drafted by the Storm was doomed to be cut. The other option is that they cut Nika and re sign her after first game and then cut Melbourne as could bring back Nika on lower salary if cut and not signed by other teams. TBD. People feel like Victoria Vivians will be cut and Nika and Melbourne will both be kept I have seen this is comments . I don't see that happening as Vivians 6'1 averaged 17 min last season going 5pts, 3 reb, 1.3 ast. (but in not very efficient) but don't see then keeping 2 back up PG when the have Diggins-smith.
So yes i think Nika will be cut. Sorry. TBD as i might be wrong.
@@back2sports988 You're such a hater...lol
@@back2sports988 You were wrong.
From what I have heard, McDaniel knee injury should not have her out next season. However, with all guards back, next season is just training for her although she is very talented (plays super hard).
Nika Muhl will make the team, it’s her visa issues are her biggest hurdle.
I do think the salary cap is ridiculous and ultimately you would think Nika won’t be on the team based off your analysis but we are not 100% sure the direction Seattle is going. I don’t see them taking Dulcy and Holmes when they have ezi, Nneka and Russell unlike last year when they only had Russell and ezi. Everything depends on the direction they going with, Nika gives them 3pt scoring and defense. Jade isn’t the best defensively but she can bring another drive and kick option. Again just depends on the direction that going and who they think they can get within the salary cap
I like the idea of no salary cap for the wnba. Each team manages their own books. If the fever want to pay Clark $3m a season they can. If they want to pay Lexi Hull $120k they can.
You are right they probably aren't taking Dulcy and Joyner one of them is getting cut plus Jade is getting cut. None of them impressed me or made a huge draw or impact in the training camp video
What do you make of Melbourne getting traded? Obviously Holmes or Vivians still has to be cut but this has to be good for Nika as the potential backup PG. the only way she doesn’t make it now is if they go with Kiana Williams as backup pg.
Holmes got the chip. Kept both Williams & Muhl.
Chicago can sign her. They're in need of a young PG who can defend & knock down 3's.
That sounds like Dana Evans
Might have to rethink Nika not making the Storm roster. She scored 6 points, had 3 rebounds, and 2 assists tonight against Phoenix. More importantly, she played 20 minutes, the most of any reserve and tied with two starters for the most minutes played. Not a bad beginning.
If she doesn’t make the cut, it will be through no fault of her own.
It's not that Auriemma has "no idea" re: the Storm's situation -- he was just being a great coach and trying to encourage his player, especially while being filmed for a social media piece. UConn has dedicated staff focused on pro prep, so they are all very aware of the situation and spent plenty of time making Mühl aware of her odds and what she needed to do (including backup plans). That's why Mühl was visibly disappointed to be picked by the Storm, because she knew that was a guaranteed horrible outcome for her.
True - I think I said he was doing what a good coach should do. But not sure if he knew the cap situation or not.
Both are true. Geno is trying to encourage his player. A player he absolutely loves. But at the same time, Geno has a blind spot for Nika and always thought she was better than she actually is.
Interesting. That makes sense that she would be totally aware of most teams needs at her spot. Still, I'm sure most of these girls don't have a clue during the draft
Talking heads - sports commentators - funny
It is always good to laugh
Hey, Just wanted to say thank you for your commentary in this video, and while I want to comment here, Briefly,
I somehow messed up thinking I was on The Uconn school Site, and accidentally posted here earlier, with a long list of my comments, instead, while trying to rally support for Nika Mühl. My apology, No worries. but I didn’t mean to take up so much of the space here 👍
all good. thanks for your comments. hopefully i am wrong and she makes the team.
Her vs caitlin clark would be cool
The Storm might have to close their ig comments, lol. I'm worried about Kate Martin also, but CP retirement may have gotten her a spot.
Anything can happen, but Seattle is trying to win, so most likely they are keeping the vets. If they were young, and had time to develop talent, then she would definitely stick. A good vet would have to be let go for cap space. That’s on both young players. Who says they are keeping 12 players. A lot of times they don’t.
good point on the 12 players I wouldn't if I was a GM . You've got get your best 11. How often is a 12th player even necessary?
The player agreement in the WNBA is absurd. They structure it more like the men’s leagues.
Jokes on you, she just made the team🕺🐐
Yes it is. Watch latest video as eat it to the best of my ability
@@back2sports988 Great apology video. Stand up Guy!!
Your assumption on the returning 10 may not be correct. That being said...I called this all along and all the Nika fans jumped all over me telling me I was wrong.
There are only 144 roster spots available in the W and some of those are left empty (11 player teams). In 2023 only 15 of the 36 draftees hung around until the start of the season (much less the full season). It's VERY HARD to make a WNBA roster -- there only about 140 players in the league. The two things in her favor are: (1) Sue Bird and (2) she is attractive -- which (like it or not) has become a big thing in women's sports and it drives revenue. If she were an ugly duckling, she would have zero chance of sticking IMO.
Interesting (and sad) analysis. I'm a huskie's fan and would love Nika to stay in the states. Question - if Seattle cuts her, can another WNBA team pick her up? Also, could she agree to take $3k less to get under the cap?
She could be signed by someone else if cut. Don't think she can take.paycut from.storm
You had to play the good will hunting scene? 😂
@B_kinda It could have been much worse. At the end of the video, I had Christy from Dance moms saying once again Chole was set up to fail (yes I know Dance Moms as I have daughters). Still not sure if I should have left that in but figured I was going to make people mad enough with this video, that best not to put it in.
@@back2sports988 you crack me up 🤭
The depressing part (or one of the many depressing parts) is that the Storm's WNBA salary cap is a rounding error on an NBA team. BTW, I heard on the news today that the NBA is signing multi-billion dollar TV contracts, 3 times as mush as the current one. Could they throw a few million to the WNBA salaries,,,,,,?
Biggest intangible... Nika has a bond with ownership...yep Sue Bird... uconn family
And Melbourne got traded to former uconn aliyah edward's mystics soo yeah likely a good chance Muhl is in as originally predicted....
The only reason I’m interested in watching the Storm is because of Nika. They can grow the sport or they could repeat the years in the past when teams won championships and no one cared.
Same here and I could care less about UConn to be blunt. But Nika gets my attention and eyeballs are critical to these individual teams now. They have a higher awareness about it now then ever.
I know that the wnba is subsidized by the nba and it doesn't makes profit and all, but the budget to have players is ridiculous.
Even though I am a Caitlin Clark and Iowa team fan, I really appreciated this young woman’s talent guarding Clark. She is entertaining. I hope someone picks her up.
Never heard of them
I agree.... Why even draft these players if they have no chance to make the team. What is the point? Just leave them undrafted.
That will be a mistake. Better put that hottie on the team and plus she can play…she has skills. They need to get rid of that commissioner.
Truth
She has VISA problems, nothing more.
Back to the drawing board old boy.
U R a video behind my friend - ua-cam.com/video/4FcGsnnvErg/v-deo.html
To get good players like Diggins-Smith & Ogwumike this year plus Loyd's , Whitcombs & Russells salary it's a shame the Storm can only have 11 players. This tells you something is wrong with the salary cap & it needs to change. Seattle only had 11 last year too. Dulcy won't be cut because she played whey beyond expectations last year. I saw the 4th quarter of the game against LA & Miller,Williams Davis looked bad. They won't cut Muir they need solid guards. The taller Centers & Forwards will be cut. It makes more sense to have Muir & Melborne come in for the second team when starters take a break on the bench. Looks like Coates, Holmes's, Williams, Davis, Miller or Vivians is on the chopping block. WNBA commissioner Cathy Engelbert needs to go. The players have to wait until 2027 for the next players bargaining agreement. All the players want changes now. Such a Joke. If they want more people to come to the games they have to infuse more $ in the salary cap.
Sue Bird just bought into ownership of the Storm. Having followed Bird since her freshman year at UConn, it’s not in her character to cut Nika. I understand it’s not up to her, but business is business. Nika is a huge draw and a point guard like Bird. I use don’t see it happening.
That was the press release, but I never see what percentage she bought/received. And it wasn't released if the percentage was bought or gifted or an exchange of some sort. I doubt it gives her a voice at the table, especially not a vote.
Believe me Bird has say. Regardless, the Storm have been highlighting her. She’s talented and a fan favorite. I doubt they cut her
Salary caps are wat they are and it sucks for her. But it aint over till it is over. Even if she gets cut for those reasons. Who says she wont get picked up off of waivers to a team that will need a back up PG.
If not she for sure will play overseas
This video can be taken down now! She made it!
No stays up for all to see that I was WRONG
Hey Back2sports just thought I would give you the heads up on Jade Melbourne being traded to Washington Mystics before the haters get at you, bro. It still doesn't guarantee that Nika Muhl will there (at the Storm) permanently. She could make the squad initially yet be traded for a better more experienced player later in the season.
Hey Calvin , yep saw it thx. Working on a wnba preview video but can't get.out tonight as it is long. But talk about Muhl in it. Hope to have it up soon. Cheers
@@back2sports988 I also just saw that Veronica Burton the 7th overall pick in 2022 WNBA draft just got waived by the Dallas Wings. It's sad but she can really play too.
@@calvinh.4682 knew they wanted to replace her when they drafted Jacey Sheldon
Not convinced
The economic scale of this moribund league is miniscule because women and men are flocking to NBA games and not WNBA games...This league...quite frankly...wouldn't even exist if it wasn't being heavily subsidized by the NBA...In the long-term...Nika will rebound and be just fine...
Needs to clear waivers and wait 11 days. Muhl will be claimed by then
TBD
It’s not TBD. They either keep her and move off one of Holmes or Dulcey, or they waive her. If they waive her, she can be claimed by a team off waivers. If she clears waivers, she can re-sign 11 days into the season.