It’s so heartwarming how even if she lost the center part to jeemin, sarang didn’t hesitate a single second to help jeemin when she was struggling. This is the type of friendly rivalry that we wanna see. As a jeemin stan i will keep voting for sarang and i hope they’ll debut together! 🥹
hard agree on Sujung, there's only an extent to what Msnake can evil edit. it was rude of her to talk like that about Mai and as a result, she's dropped out of my lineup. i also agree that the lineup may still have seven members, idk maybe just a feeling. however, about jeemin, i do think she's gained confidence in the last episode -- i think it really helped her to know she still has a ton of supporters and that she needs to do well for them. trying out for the centre part from the get-go was really ambitious, and i'm proud of her making that giant leap.
As we know, the devil works hard but mnet works harder, but this time around it was Sujung that did it all to herself. Also, i kinda agree with Jeemin, i think she's starting to finally gain confidence and i hope she'll become more and more ambitious.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye What happened was, Jiyoon came into the room and Sujung asked if Mai was practicing, Jiyoon basically said yes. And then, out of nowhere, Sujung said that Mai's voice was nasally and then emulated/mocked (whatever word you wanna use) the way Mai was singing the part. And that's when Yuju said "you know this but you're not gonna tell her" and Sujung said "it's an individual game, why should I?" I don't think it was just about who gets criticism from the judges lol.
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@dollkyeshe should had kept it to herself. There are thousands watching you and its important to have a positive view from the public. And even though its an individual competition you should still help your fellow members coz you are still a team. Making a good performance is more important. Its over now for her.
Evil edit is what they are doing to jungeun and jiyoon: adding ominous music, putting the video in slow motion and making dramatic close ups to make it seem like they hate each other. What sujung said is not evil edit because she said it herself, those words and her mocking laugh came out of her own mouth, they weren’t fabricated by mnet’s editing team. I hope people won’t always justify their fave’s mistakes with the excuse of evil editing.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@_seri.haiguys we don't know what the others say, and we don't know why one else tell her that. Also, they are going to get criticism from the judges, so they would tell her
If Sujung wanted to “sabotage” Mai because it’s a competition i can understand it, but at least hide it instead of talking about it in front of the cameras and people that weren’t even in the team. Girl you’re not slick, if you want to strategize then do it properly, sorry but she was stupid af
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
mnet is literally sabotaging yuju its pissing me off, like its so suspicious that someone like yuju who was always so stable in her previous survival shows suddenly always has a "mic problem"
literally… criticising her performance but not even mentioning the obvious tech issues?? the judges have definitely been told to just talk shit about her for part 2 💀
i completely agree w the sujung one. yes i did contemplate on whether she was evil edited but she said that like SHE DID and that was so unnecessary of her to put it out and be so mean like that, girl’s sooo over
Yeah especially because they should know how important it is to be liked by the public when it comes to survival shows. Nobody is saying she's not allowed to be competitive, but what was she thinking when she decided to voice it out knowing everyone could hear? 💀
@@soft4taeng it was heavily edited, there’s a thread on twt/X debunking that part of the episode. Like Mnet kinda ate w/ how well those clips of sujung were put together, but EVIL for trying to ruin a minor’s dream.
I agree but I think Jiyoon has always been like this. She's still as blunt and straightforward as before but she is motivated this time. It's amazing how good she is now. She's been my pick since episode 1 but she shocks me every episode. I can also sleep peacefully knowing she did well and reconciled with Jungeun next week seeing as I got spoilers from audience on reddit.
I’m very confidently she’ll debut she’s very popular in Korea which is a bonus and I think she’ll have enough global support to land herself a 5th - 6th in the final lineup
@@sc0tty_dog. You clearly underestimate her. She's gonna get 2nd or 3rd at this rate. She's singing a Beyonce song this week and it's blown everyone's heads off.
Right?? Because they knew we would all expect 7 members and they clearly wanted to subvert our expectations by making us think it's 6...but i still have hope 🤞
For Sujung, I completely agree because I feel like she didn't help Mai because she wanted a higher score than her so she could be in the top 6. Another thing is that when she spoke to the others no one laughed with her or agreed, they all awkwardly laughed and told her that she should tell Mai and Sujung just laughed about it,
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
i agree so much on sujung, but i also see people on tiktok and twitter hating on yuju too because they think she was agreeing with sujung when really yuju was just explaining to sujung how she should tell Mai upfront instead of gossiping to that group of girls, and she was laughing at her for being like that
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
removed sujung from my picks IMMEDIATELY when I saw her attitude, and added jiyoon instead cuz Mai my baby didn’t deserve that. also the fact that whilst sujung was saying those things, Mai was in the practice room working her ass off, jiyoon is probs my fav at the moment but i can’t even think of sujung the same..
yes it's the way she was speaking badly about Mai while Mai was working so hard to get better...as for Jiyoon i'm glad she grew so mature and responsible, this whole journey really changed her for the better (she also became one of my picks following this episode) while despite the fact this was Sujung's second survival show, it's like she is still not able to develop a teamwork mentality and this is a big problem.
@@soft4taeng I fr hated jiyoon at the start of the show, but considering this was her first time being in front of cameras, i understood her more but even the evil editing accusations can’t help sujung, who knows what else she could say if this is her SECOND survival show and this is how she’s acting
@@zomgakittyz i wasn't crazy about Jiyoon because she used to deal with things immaturely, but it wasn't that bad and maturity is something that you can develop, while having a mean spirit is not something that you can change from one day to another and it won't be forgiven easily, so i don't see Sujung really recovering from this
@@zomgakittyz Jiyoon is just blunt, straightforward and emotional. She was evil edited but her emotions were all over the place. I've been a jiyoon no.1 since day one and my views have never changed on her.
I don’t think Sujung is mean but she comes off as quite cocky and overly confident. For example she thinks she’s a much better vocalist than she actually is, that’s why she always applies for the main vocal parts. But she’s a mediocre vocalist who always sings too nasally and she isn’t even on lead vocal level, let alone main vocal. She should just stick to dancing 😒
Yeah she dosent have techinical singing skills, but every time she boxes her self as "just a great dancer" judges ask her to show other skills. It is very ballsy / foolish to compete with the vocal girls. Is a pitty that this show dont have coaches to help everyone to level up specially in singing and acting. Copying the source singer or College is a commoun strategy for begginer singers.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
Exactly bro like their favoritism towards Saebi,Koko and Mai is insane the judges were too harsh towards Yuju and they were trying their best to make sure that Koko got the main dancer & main rapper part instead of Yuju Feels bad for my girl Yuju 😞❤
Imo Jeemin proved she was going to only go up from now on with her La vie en rose performance! Like she took the Center position and worked really Damn hard and the end result paid off! Plus from new spoilers It seems she was center again and Leader of her team, so Yeah I believe in her
Sujung just dug herself into a deep hole cuz her fanbase wasn't that strong to begin with. I actually quite liked her before this episode but I can't bring myself to put her in my top 6 anymore
i rlly do agree on the sujung one. she was always one of my favorite picks but now im going to re-think on that. i also love the way jiyoon stood up for mai saying "but i thought we are a team tho" (or smth like that) and went straight up to mai helping her out. she also was so happy when jeemin managed to do her part right which was soo cute
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
please really think that, they adore each other, sujung always support her, but just wanna focus now on her, she always chose the things that were better for the team (like going to the creative unit)
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@dollkye she imitaded her in front of a bunch of girls. i respect her choice that shes fighting for herself now as long as its not a team mission but then she shouldn't be mentioning mais flaws in front of other girls and behind mais back. if she wont tell mai about her mistakes and how to improve then she should not talk about these mistakes behind her back
I don't know if Sujung's case counts as evil edit since she definitely said those lame things about Mai, but it's obvious they don't want her in the final lineup, not only for showing what she said but for the feedback she gets from the producers, that she's only a dancer, that her choreography was nothing new, that she's imitating CL, even when she was main vocalist they criticized her expressions. They know she has a lot of support and want to reduce her votes and it's pretty obvious. I think same happens with Yuju, especially after all the critisicm she got on the last ep and how her screentime has been decreasing
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
sujung is so rude doing that to mai. shouldn’t be surprised mnet is airing that clip of her. she should’ve just kept her opinion to herself. also the girls who laughed with her also at fault. judges being so bias every time new episodes out are so freaking clear. they have their fav trainee. sometimes I wonder if mnet also evil edited them by not airing their opinion fully because their criticism is one dimensional. since part 1 sujung and jungeun always falls into the spectrum of “you’re good, but i expected more from you”. when sujung became the main dancer in part 1, they say she should’ve just stay in sgdf if she just want to dance. but they didn’t reconsider that in part 1 is a team mission so everyone is tasked to do what they’re best at for their group to win. oh they did compliment her creativity for the creative team mission, but it’s not enough and they EXPECTED MORE. when she finally chose to become a main vocal, they ended up criticize her voice. the same with jungeun. her being stable and sing beautifully is not enough. she needs to be extraordinary since she always rank 1. however when it come to their fav trainees doing bare minimum they say “it’s okay, you’re doing great. just keep practicing, I know you could reach it” (yes i’m watching u monica and that producer with hat). i want to barf🤢
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
sujung loves mai, they are friends and sujung ALWAYS compliment her, she only said that why would she help someone else, THATS NOT RUDE, specially when everyone did the SAME
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@user-rq1he4we7p she wasn't mocking her omg, also, do you know that it wouldn't be the first time mnet forced someone into saying something just to make drama
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye Its not about opinion, like you know someone is lacking in something and YOU are supposed to tell them that. Sujung didn't chose to, which is why many fans got upset.
also hoping for 7 members! pretty much everyone still in the show feels ready or almost ready to debut, plus it feels like there's an over-saturation of 6 member ggs (or 6 member ggs that became 5 member ggs) atm. 7 would be a really fun dynamic, esp for choreos. yuju is one of my picks, though I don't think she has much of a chance anymore (unless through voting). it sucked to see her get blamed for mic issues this ep, and sucked that the producers don't like her retro rap style--she is 2nd gen coded in a way, but this is something I found refreshing
aside from the sujung drama, sudden koko favoritism (that probably started after mnet saw koko's popularity among the fans) and the koko/yuju situation made me furious to the point of almost rage quitting i-land at this point it was obvious that mnet sabotaged yuju's mic (for the second time in the show) and yuju got criticised basically for her mic not working, yet koko got all the praises while she either mispronounced or skipped one of the words in the rap part (noticed that in fancam). i feel genuinely scared for yuju now, especially since she might also get hate from being dragged to the sujung/mai drama (while her embarrassment for sujung was visible during the conversation)
It's funny how everyone seems to feel okay with Koko, when she is so bad at rapping and vocal and still people vote for her and judges praise her, when she made so many mistakes. Besides she has 0 stage presence, but everyone ignores that. It makes me contemplate that this show is rigged
can't say koko is that bad, but both yuju and yui are much better than her in both areas (would prefer yui in part 2 over koko), and i really don't like koko's voice, especially in the rap parts. sadly, it seems that the koko favoritism from both mnet and fans will only be getting stronger, now that the spoilers for ep9 performances are out. what is even more sad, it seems that aside from koko, there will be... two more (one at the very least) contestants in the debut line-up, whose on-stage charisma just repels me, while both are talented and have good skills (i do my best to give them the chance to grow on me in every episode, but so far only yui managed to get from my "disliked" tier to "activelh voting" tier only to be eliminated right after that). at this point it's likely that i won't stan the group or will be solo stanning my picks who make it (though i am delulu dreaming of only a couple of my picks making it to the line-up, both pulling the youngseo card and debuting with all my other picks)
EXACTLY, damn, I thought I was the only one who thought that, I start to think I might be the only one that doesn't see her talent I don't get what stage presence people talk about tbh. In the Blackpink performance, Yuju and Sujung stand out the most to me but people keep saying she's center material. Moreover people said she KILLED her rap in Baggy Jeans and I thought (am I the only one that thought she has a hard time stabilizing her rap and vocal?) Koko and Mai are the contestants that I don't get the hype over them tbh, I think both of them are overrated
i really like Sujung, she is still in my lineup but her actions can't excuse she said what she said. it really sucks cuz she is an excellent trainee and is debut ready but her actions will more likely cause her to be out of many people's lineups. i really hope she apologizes and that we see her learn from her actions cuz i would hate to see her go.
I feel like she won’t debut this was definitely the final blow she didn’t necessarily have a small fan base or a gaint one but it was a growing weak one which wasn’t that strong in Korea and what she’s done has pisses off more global viewers like Japan and western countries as Mai is a bigger Contestant over there meaning combined with sunjungs weak Korean support and split global support I think she’s doomed to rank high just not high enough to debut:(
Sujung is (was?) my top pick and I was so ready to jump on the evil editing train, but as much as it stings I have to admit that nah, girl did it herself. My disappointment is immense and my day is ruined (nah not really lol but it does put Sujung in something of a different light). Honestly I'm most shocked at the fact she didn't realise how bad she was going to make herself look lmao
I’m happy that you highlighted the biased of sarang and Mai, even if one of them is your favourite. I hate how much the judges ignore and criticize so much about some members and praise other even if they did a mistake, like poor Juwon, I understand that she es not the most popular contestant, but (maybe it was not shown but that’s important as it is screen time) she didn’t get any reaction from the judges during the performance and she also didn’t get feedback after it or when the results were shown (I’m not going to talk about how criminal it was the score that they gave her in my opinion). Pd: I actually think that the 7 members theory is actually pretty good.
I honestly hope that the judges actually gave Juwon praise and feedback and it just wasn’t broadcasted, but even so…it’s extremely telling because it really goes to show how mnet is kinda trying to hide her, as if she didn’t exist 🙄
I don’t like what Sujung said at all. And although i understand where she’s coming from, there’s nothing to justify her saying what she did. But people are taking this and running with it. Don’t try and justify hating on someone for a mistake they made in a highly competitive and stressful environment (where we don’t know what happens beyond what we are shown) If jiyoon can make a mistake and be human then so can sujung… Like do ppl rly think all the girls have been angels? Mnet may not have “evil edited” her but they sure can and do pick and choose what and who they show. If a trainee they like talks bad about someone they sure won’t show it. Yeah she messed up big time. But canceling and hating her for it isn’t much better.
About Jeemin, she lost a lot of confidence from R U Next which definitely hindered her in part 1, but her pushing for center this ep and finally hitting the note showed that she's bringing her confidence back! In the next ep I heard she goes for a bigger part as well. Completely agree that the judges are biased. While Sarang still did amazing, her mistakes should not have been as glossed over as they were. It's obvious that they like her and if another trainee made a similar mistake, they would have been heavily criticized. No hate to Sarang (its not her fault)!
#1: As soon as Sujung said that, I was like "well it was nice knowing you Sujung, time to find someone else for my top 6 predictions". I get why she did what the did but the way she was mocking Mai ON CAMERA was not just mean, but also really dumb, since she had to know that people wouldn't approve of that #2: Jiyoon FLEW up my ranking this past episode, it was so satisfying seeing her do a great job as a leader and a performer, the effort she put in for her teammates was heartwarming and so yeah she's definitely a solid pick for me now. #3: When they chose Jeemin to be the center, I could see it coming a mile away but I was still like "why not Sarang?" because I agree, you can tell in Jeemin's performance that she lacks confidence. I think the switch to a live audience will be good for her though, because she has so many fans that can boost her confidence before a performance, and you could already tell it was helping through the LVER performance. #4: Yeah, I also don't like how the judges are either "POSITIVE POSITIVE POSITIVE" or "NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE" and there's no healthy balance of comments. #5: As soon as I hear that there was going to be Live Audience votings I was like "Oh no it's Queendom Puzzle all over again". I'm glad the judges votes are there to negate some of the unfair judgement of the audience but it's still not wonderful. #6: Sadly, I believe they already told us that the producers will be picking 3 of the final group members, so I don't see this happening. I wish it would, though.
Hating on a 17 year old girl .. saying she's over just because of one mistake that is not really that big of a mistake ...you guys should be over you are the real bullies here
@@lsrfmislife If you think this is a "big deal " ,I don't know how you go on living in the real world. I hope you are doing okay. let's normalize giving second chances to talented young girls who kept showing nothing but love towards each other from the beginning
@@lsrfmislifeJust my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me. So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them? This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say. Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Not trying to mean but I think that ppl need to get over what sujung did ik she was harsh but it’s a survival show so her not helping mai is understandable as sujung wants to debut and mai is clearly favored by the judges so by not helping her while it may be rude it is helpful for herself to debut
I can understand not wanting to help, but why didn’t she just keep her opinions to herself? Why did she go and mock her in front of other people that weren’t even in the team? It’s almost like she wanted to discredit her in front of the other girls. Not wanting to help a rival is one thing, but laughing about her mistakes wasn’t cool at all.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Bro they way everybody bashed me for saying the same thing is crazy ! 😭😭😭 people even called me an hater and spreading fake news but i did not lie tho ? 😭
judges are so biased fr jung eun is most talanted there let's not lie but her stage presence feels little too technical however she showed improvement and got 12th place shame on judges
The thing that also upset me so much with Sujung is when she said “because I have such a strong voice Mai is trying to match that and she can’t” (she might’ve worded it differently but that’s basically what I remember her saying correct me if I’m wrong) and that made me so upset because it’s like when did Mai say that? It upset me because Sujung needs to realize that having that attitude isn’t going to get her into the group. And on top of that she’s not the best vocalist on the show either so she shouldn’t be criticizing her in front of everyone 😭
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye that’s not a time or place. U can have ur thoughts but to everyone it shows lack of professionalism and lack of teamwork. She quite literally shot herself in the foot with the audience and potentially how the others view her cus people might be fine in ur face but they gonna think ur messy for stuff like that
all the girls that are left are pretty talented and even those who need to improve are improving day by day so no matter what happens, i think the final line up will slay regardless of who makes it!
The way Sujung acted completely threw me off and made me uncomfortable tbh, I get her reasoning but talking about Mai behind her back and to all those girls... just mean girl behavior. It was also disappointing cause we know she is part of a dance crew so seeing her being not team focused to this extent was a shock. I am aware mnet probably used their edit skills to make it shadier but I'm trying to think of it without all the editing and it still feels unnecessary. Yeah the challenge now is individual but maybe focus on yourself and don't talk bad about the others, specially cause this competition is to be on a group so what's gonna happen once you are on a group with someone that you bad mouthed on national television? I've actually grown fond of Jeemin during this show but I honestly wasn't impressed by her during RU Next because of this same reason. She was good and did her parts good during the performances but I barely remember her taking risks or standing out (but tbf it was probably the editing). It was like, she knew she was good so she did what she knew to do, she just stayed in one place. Now, I imagine not having debuted last time and her current ranking is making her more anxious but unfortunately the way that anxiety manifests is by shutting down. I'm glad she overcame it and I'm happy for her because she clearly put in the work, but she needs to take more risks and fight cause, again, she's good but all the girls are also good. I actually really like Yuju, Gyuri and Juwon and I think they did really well in their performances but the judges barely acknowledged them. Gyuri specially, during Part 1 she was consistently good and during La Vie En Rose she shined! I'm so sad cause it's obvious MNET is trying to give them less screentime and overall focus. I'm convinced they want to eliminate the three girls. I somehow agree on the public, it def will have an impact on the girls' confidence so I think they should've done 25% live audience and 75% producers They have to pull a sixteen and add one or two more members during the final cause I just can't pick 6
Sujung has had a harsh personality from the beginning. I think there were two missions where she warned teammates that their positions were only until the interim check-in, and that made me uneasy about her from the beginning. Jiyoon also has a harsh personality, but Jiyoon seems to have the confidence to help others for a healthy competition.
Yes, Gyuri has always been ignored since part 1, but I think Koreans vote for her visual, that's how she survived (she's talented though) But for Juwon and Fuko, they barely got any screen time in the recent episode and the only time they shine is during the final performance
Are we not talking about how their performance, especially the supposed "killing parts" are just the contestants exaggerating their facial expressions?
nobody said she was a bad person- she just made a bad choice. obviously she is entitled to her own opinions, but it was unnecessary to say things like that out loud and behind mai’s back.
Idc sujung is innocent the clip was in fact heavily edited and there’s a twt thread debunking it. The real thing wasn’t as mean as it sounded. Mai is not ready to debut and does in fact have a nasally voice, sujung just spoke fax. Anyways vote for Ryu Sarang ❤
How is it an evil edit when she literally said what she said? There’s nothing to debunk at all. The fact that Mai isn’t ready to debut isn’t a justification to mock her. And even if Mai has a nasal voice let’s not act like Sujung doesn’t…she always sounds like she has a cold 💀
@@vangyul first of all, yes what sujung said was out of pocket but the “laughing scenes” and scenes like that we’re all edited, if u give me ur twt @ I can tag u in the thread debunking the clip. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so stop commenting on their relationship, literally in the teaser to next episode we see Mai crying and Sujung sitting right next to her and comforting her 💀 so they obviously made up. Sujung was on sdgf and that show is all abt belittling ur competitors and when she heard “1v1”, yeah she got a competitive. Pls put urself in her pov. And p.s, Sujung does NOT sound like she has a nasally voice, u don’t need to use Mai’s struggles and lie that Sujung has the same.
@@AUGHHHHHBBG first of all, yes what sujung said was out of pocket but the “laughing scenes” and scenes like that we’re all edited, if u give me ur twt @ I can tag u in the thread debunking the clip. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so stop commenting on their relationship, literally in the teaser to next episode we see Mai crying and Sujung sitting right next to her and comforting her 💀 so they obviously made up. Sujung was on sdgf and that show is all abt belittling ur competitors and when she heard “1v1”, yeah she got a competitive. Pls put urself in her pov.
@@AUGHHHHHBBGsujung is also getting absolutely TORN UP by toxic Mai Stans. Yes what she said wasn’t the best thing to say but that DOES NOT give u the right to body shame and call her ugly. Ppl are being so nasty on twt and she’s just a minor :( desperation can lead to certain actions.
i find it hard to believe that sujung said that on her own accord the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
Just my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me. So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them? This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say. Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
STOP BELIVING MNET OMG- juwon asked if they think the mentors will comment on their tones and sujung just said her opinion She didn’t laugh at mai she literally laughed because yuju asked her to tell her opinion to mai and sujung explained that she doesn’t want to tell her because it’s an individual match and she wants to survive which isn’t wrong stop spreading false informations and and making her look like the bad guy by saying “talking badly about mai behind her back”
“stop believing mnet” and it’s actually things that came out of Sujung’s mouth…she quite literally started singing Mai’s parts exaggerating her nasal tone, which means mocking her. Also, when Yuju asked her if she was going to tell Mai and Sujung said no, she laughed as if she was very pleased with herself because she secretly hoped that by not telling Mai, then Mai would have messed up and would receive criticism by the judges. Please don’t try to blindly defend her just because she’s one of your picks. What happened was very clear.
@@soft4taengJust my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me. So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them? This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say. Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
stop sarang is my number1 pick too but i was kind of scratching my head when they dismissed sarang's mistake and harshly criticized yuju even if she didn't do a single mistake...........
I think they use live voting because it makes it much easier for them to achieve the results they want while providing the veneer of the public having input. MNET/BlackLabel are the ones choosing who is in the audience. They can simply choose to invite audience members based on who they are stanning and who they dislike. You can then get the results that Jiyoon and Jungeun had (regardless of how they actually performed).
To be honest, I do have a feeling that we are going to have 7 members cause they said 6 and didn’t mention pd pick so I think 6 are gonna made it through votes and 1 gonna be the pd pick And here’s my lineup 1- Jungeun as a main vocal 2- Jiyoon as a main vocal too 3- Fuko as a lead vocalist, and here a pretty strong vocal line 4- Koko, main dancer and rapper as well even though not all groups need rappers 5- Jeemin : lead dancer center 6- Saebi : a strong dancer and can be center as well 7- Sarang : another one who can fit center and she’s a really good dancer
Agree that public voting shouldn’t play a part in the ranking so early on as it can get very discouraging for the less popular members.. or at the least the weightage of the public vote shouldn’t be at 50%. We have to remember that in order for a group to be successful, they need the group to be well balanced and the members to be good at what they are doing.
I'll always side eye anyone who talks badly behind someone's back to a group of people, we all witnessed it happened to Heeseung in season 1 and it absolutely DESTROYED his confidence to lead a group/team in the future. I'm still partially convinced it's why he's not the leader of Enhypen. I just feel so bad for Mai because I'd be so hurt in that situation, I hope her and Sujung can talk it out. as for Jeemin, it's clear that RUNEXT ruined her confidence and it's sad to see. (in RUN she would get criticized in every performance no matter how good she did the judges would always find something to nitpick. also being 4th in fanvotes and not debuting bc of the producers would screw up anyone's mindset idc who you are) but as for iland2 I hope in part 2 she has a breakthrough performance.
mai is near the bottom of my ranking and i thought sujung ATE i am the best but i can’t support her like keep that for after the show when your at home girl anyway vote yuju ❤
Like juwon and yuju need some spotlight becuase yuju get's scenes but never in the performance like dude she's been slaying since start . If u keep highlighting someone ofc they'll be the one's who stand out and stop being so biased and intrested on one contestent . Juwon also slayed the mist in I'm the best perfomance but she literally didn't even get any response when she was thevmost stable and best . Juwon and yuju deserve better
I still think it's 6, bare chance of making it 7. Mnet is full of surprises but still they don't change the announcement for final lineup. GP999 and BP, as well as the Produce series proved that once they set their final number, they don't change it.
Judges are too biased towards Koko and Saebi. It's very obvious. Girlies getting praised for bare minimum. Both were my top picks since the Panoram performance, but I'm kind of getting tired of seeing too much over exaggerated praises by the judges.
I feel jeemin has gained more confidence after this la vie en rose performnace... Like there was live audience chanting her name loudly and jdges openly appreciated her so much and also aming live voting she herself got to see her results so im really excited to see what jeemin does for the next ep.... Girlie lost most of her confidence and bubbly personality after RUN (talk about a shit of a show)
People in the comments really don’t understand editing. They can take clips and smash them together to make it sound like someone is saying or responding to something they weren’t. Also do you really think everyone else in the room was just silent? Mnet only showed Sujung talking and made it out to be rude not conversational like it was. They could have evil edited anyone but chose Sujung, and come on, we should have seen it coming with how much the judges/ mnet are against her. Y’all would defend your favs if they did the same as Sujung
Even if you were to take Sujung's words out of context, it's still pretty clear what she was implying. I don't think it's a problem if she didn't wanna help a rival during the competition, the problem is that she was laughing about her while imitating her and the meaning wouldn't change even if her words were taken out of context. The fact that mnet only showed Sujung's comments to sabotage her is surely possible, but she said what she said and i can guarantee that if my faves did the same, i definitely wouldn't try to justify them, in fact there are many people whose fave was Sujung and they started vibing with her less after her comments...people are allowed to change opinions on trainees.
@@soft4taeng she wasn’t imitating just demonstrating Mai’s nasal placement. The only time she “laughed at her” was the clip with Yuju which clearly was the out of context part because it cut to a completely different moment. She was also laughing at Yuju’s words not Mai. And it’s as if people ignore the part when Sujung said she thought it was amazing how Mai was practicing long and hard. Sujung clearly loves Mai and was being honest on what she thought the judges would say, not mean.
matter of fact, perfect unentertaining show rather than audition supposed to be on talents and quality of performance. Double standard by contestant to contestant, popularity votes rather than performance quality. Judge inconsistency, ridiculous shoutout by dance director to mediocre ok vocalist, so predictable evil editing and forced narrative to make target hero storyline is all Mnet can do and sadly it ages too old to peruade me as far as auditon goes. So far So predictable, but still worth watching how hard nonheroes in the show can push themselves.
Embora a sua argumentação pareça ser motivada pelo fato de ser a Mai que a Sujung estava tentando prejudicar, não muda o fato de estar correta no mérito. O que me incomodou foi o fato dela parecer tentar fazer as outras competidoras pensarem como ela, não apenas estar se expressando. Infelizmente as garotas que estavam ouvindo foram muito neutras com esse tipo de opinião. Mas não é a primeira vez que a Sujung demonstrou guardar para si determinados conselhos, para que outras pessoa não brilhem mais que ela (no fundo ela sabe que seu talento é dançar e nada mais). Sobre a voz dela: depois daquele contraste do episódio 6 (com a Jiyoon), ficou MUITO evidente o quanto a voz dela é similar a um prato sendo aranhado por um garfo. Ela destoa muito do restante do grupo, em vários aspectos. Infelizmente os "órfãos da Lingling" parecem ter escolhido ela para apoiar... Se a Coreia apoiar ela, existem grandes chances dela ocupar o lugar de alguém "que mereça". Quando mais cedo todos perceberem que existem 3 grupos em qualquer reality, mais cedo vão perceber o quanto as vontades (1) da empresa, (2) do público e (3) o talento, precisam se encontrar. De nada vale a empresa escolher alguém que o público não aprecia. De nada vale existir alguém com talento que não empolga o publico e de nada vale alguém que o público e a empresa gostam, mas que não tem talento, nem conseguem ser "maquiados pelos equipamentos de som", pois cedo ou tarde essas pessoas vão ser percebidos como ruins e não terão capacidade de cativar novos fãs. Por último... Seis estreantes é o mesmo que "uma história sem final feliz". Eu gostaria que fossem sete ou oito, mas depois de ontem eu fiquei bastante desanimado em seguir acompanhando o programa... Não entendo como a empresa faz um investimento gigantes como esteja reality, para estrear APENAS seis integrantes. Não é como se as outras garotas fossem ruins...
Eu sei que é difícil para os fãs da Yuju admitirem, mas até o presente momento (aos olhos dos "não fãs"), ela não consegue se destacar quando é colocada para competir diretamente com outra pessoa. Basta ver como ela se saiu quando foi colocada para competir com a Yui... Ela perdeu a vaga e a Yui foi bastante elogiada pelos produtores. O mesmo aconteceu com ela em relação à Koko, que mesmo com a dificuldade do idioma, parecia ter mais presença de palco e movimentos mais compatíveis com a coreografia. Não tem jeito, a maior chance da Yuju estrear é SE ela conseguir se destacar mais que a Koko, mas lamento informar, até o episódio 9 isso não acontecem NEM COM A KOKO precisando de ajuda para as pronúncias do inglês e do coreano...
Basically they were both in the team for i am the best by 2ne1 and Mai was struggling with her lines because she didn’t get some parts of the melody right. Also, she was forcing the nasal tone too much and it was kind of unpleasing to hear. Sujung noticed that, but instead of helping she mocked Mai’s way of singing in front of the other girls and said she wan’t going to tell Mai about her mistakes (most likely because she wanted her to do badly on stage). Only Jiyoon (the team leader) talked to Mai and pointed out what she needed to improve, helping her get it right. I get this is a competition but Sujung just came off as mean cause she was really talking trash behind Mai’s back.
She said that Mai's voice is too nasal and she tries to push it but it doesn't sound good (She said this in her back) so Yuju said ''aren't you going to tell her?'' and Sujung said something like ''Why? I want to survive''
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@soft4taeng sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Ohh ok Damn girl I get the competition but your supposed to work as a team. How is she supposed to be in a group if she doesn't work well I rlly wanted her to debut Also why would mnet keep wat she said
It’s so heartwarming how even if she lost the center part to jeemin, sarang didn’t hesitate a single second to help jeemin when she was struggling.
This is the type of friendly rivalry that we
wanna see. As a jeemin stan i will keep voting for sarang and i hope they’ll debut together! 🥹
thank you so much...sarang ans jeemin are my top i really need to see them debut
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@@lili-u4fMake sure to vote choi jungeun!!
hard agree on Sujung, there's only an extent to what Msnake can evil edit. it was rude of her to talk like that about Mai and as a result, she's dropped out of my lineup. i also agree that the lineup may still have seven members, idk maybe just a feeling. however, about jeemin, i do think she's gained confidence in the last episode -- i think it really helped her to know she still has a ton of supporters and that she needs to do well for them. trying out for the centre part from the get-go was really ambitious, and i'm proud of her making that giant leap.
As we know, the devil works hard but mnet works harder, but this time around it was Sujung that did it all to herself. Also, i kinda agree with Jeemin, i think she's starting to finally gain confidence and i hope she'll become more and more ambitious.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye What happened was, Jiyoon came into the room and Sujung asked if Mai was practicing, Jiyoon basically said yes. And then, out of nowhere, Sujung said that Mai's voice was nasally and then emulated/mocked (whatever word you wanna use) the way Mai was singing the part. And that's when Yuju said "you know this but you're not gonna tell her" and Sujung said "it's an individual game, why should I?" I don't think it was just about who gets criticism from the judges lol.
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@dollkyeshe should had kept it to herself. There are thousands watching you and its important to have a positive view from the public. And even though its an individual competition you should still help your fellow members coz you are still a team. Making a good performance is more important. Its over now for her.
Evil edit is what they are doing to jungeun and jiyoon: adding ominous music, putting the video in slow motion and making dramatic close ups to make it seem like they hate each other.
What sujung said is not evil edit because she said it herself, those words and her mocking laugh came out of her own mouth, they weren’t fabricated by mnet’s editing team.
I hope people won’t always justify their fave’s mistakes with the excuse of evil editing.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
she wasnt mocking
@@dollkyeit was still rude and unnecessary- as someone who had sujung as one of my picks, i completely agree with what the video said abt her
@@_seri.haiguys we don't know what the others say, and we don't know why one else tell her that. Also, they are going to get criticism from the judges, so they would tell her
@@_seri.haiguys Mnet is trying to make this mai vs sujung battle now that yujung vs jiwoon didn't make effect
If Sujung wanted to “sabotage” Mai because it’s a competition i can understand it, but at least hide it instead of talking about it in front of the cameras and people that weren’t even in the team.
Girl you’re not slick, if you want to strategize then do it properly, sorry but she was stupid af
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye stop spamming
@@asapreikpop y'all are saying the same things, I'm not going to write the same response over and over with different word(?
@@dollkye FR
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
mnet is literally sabotaging yuju its pissing me off, like its so suspicious that someone like yuju who was always so stable in her previous survival shows suddenly always has a "mic problem"
literally… criticising her performance but not even mentioning the obvious tech issues?? the judges have definitely been told to just talk shit about her for part 2 💀
someone please tell mnet to open the 4th support for yuju to get a working mic
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i completely agree w the sujung one. yes i did contemplate on whether she was evil edited but she said that like SHE DID and that was so unnecessary of her to put it out and be so mean like that, girl’s sooo over
Yeah especially because they should know how important it is to be liked by the public when it comes to survival shows. Nobody is saying she's not allowed to be competitive, but what was she thinking when she decided to voice it out knowing everyone could hear? 💀
I misses the episode
What did she say
@@user23q0 Sujung basically didn't help Mai during their practice as her own strategy
she mocked mai's vocal tone while she wasnt around despite them all being in a group, she did not help her but jiyoon did @@user23q0
@@soft4taeng it was heavily edited, there’s a thread on twt/X debunking that part of the episode. Like Mnet kinda ate w/ how well those clips of sujung were put together, but EVIL for trying to ruin a minor’s dream.
I agree but I think Jiyoon has always been like this. She's still as blunt and straightforward as before but she is motivated this time. It's amazing how good she is now. She's been my pick since episode 1 but she shocks me every episode. I can also sleep peacefully knowing she did well and reconciled with Jungeun next week seeing as I got spoilers from audience on reddit.
I’m very confidently she’ll debut she’s very popular in Korea which is a bonus and I think she’ll have enough global support to land herself a 5th - 6th in the final lineup
@@sc0tty_dog. You clearly underestimate her. She's gonna get 2nd or 3rd at this rate. She's singing a Beyonce song this week and it's blown everyone's heads off.
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@@rachael5611 I have been. After this episode though, I think I will start voting Yuju again.
Telling sujung to sound less like CL and telling yuju to sound more like Lisa was crazy lmao
Facts! Make it make sense…
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girl i dont know if im delulu either but i TOTALLY think mnet is going to pull a suprise 7th member so glad im not the only one who thinks this !!!
Right?? Because they knew we would all expect 7 members and they clearly wanted to subvert our expectations by making us think it's 6...but i still have hope 🤞
@@soft4taengfrrr im praying 🙏
For Sujung, I completely agree because I feel like she didn't help Mai because she wanted a higher score than her so she could be in the top 6. Another thing is that when she spoke to the others no one laughed with her or agreed, they all awkwardly laughed and told her that she should tell Mai and Sujung just laughed about it,
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
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@@rachael5611 100% AMMM
i agree so much on sujung, but i also see people on tiktok and twitter hating on yuju too because they think she was agreeing with sujung when really yuju was just explaining to sujung how she should tell Mai upfront instead of gossiping to that group of girls, and she was laughing at her for being like that
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
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removed sujung from my picks IMMEDIATELY when I saw her attitude, and added jiyoon instead cuz Mai my baby didn’t deserve that. also the fact that whilst sujung was saying those things, Mai was in the practice room working her ass off, jiyoon is probs my fav at the moment but i can’t even think of sujung the same..
yes it's the way she was speaking badly about Mai while Mai was working so hard to get better...as for Jiyoon i'm glad she grew so mature and responsible, this whole journey really changed her for the better (she also became one of my picks following this episode) while despite the fact this was Sujung's second survival show, it's like she is still not able to develop a teamwork mentality and this is a big problem.
@@soft4taeng I fr hated jiyoon at the start of the show, but considering this was her first time being in front of cameras, i understood her more but even the evil editing accusations can’t help sujung, who knows what else she could say if this is her SECOND survival show and this is how she’s acting
@@zomgakittyz i wasn't crazy about Jiyoon because she used to deal with things immaturely, but it wasn't that bad and maturity is something that you can develop, while having a mean spirit is not something that you can change from one day to another and it won't be forgiven easily, so i don't see Sujung really recovering from this
@@zomgakittyz Jiyoon is just blunt, straightforward and emotional. She was evil edited but her emotions were all over the place. I've been a jiyoon no.1 since day one and my views have never changed on her.
@@deleyderismynamer wish I was like you fr but I couldn’t deal w her at the start, maybe over time my love for sujung will come back..?
I don’t think Sujung is mean but she comes off as quite cocky and overly confident. For example she thinks she’s a much better vocalist than she actually is, that’s why she always applies for the main vocal parts. But she’s a mediocre vocalist who always sings too nasally and she isn’t even on lead vocal level, let alone main vocal. She should just stick to dancing 😒
agree bro no hate but her voice gets annoying too like in the last performance like girl no you should’ve dropped the whole CL impersonating thing 😭😭😭
Yeah she dosent have techinical singing skills, but every time she boxes her self as "just a great dancer" judges ask her to show other skills. It is very ballsy / foolish to compete with the vocal girls.
Is a pitty that this show dont have coaches to help everyone to level up specially in singing and acting.
Copying the source singer or College is a commoun strategy for begginer singers.
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@amucharyyshe wasnt impersonating CL thats just her voice
I’m sorry but Mnet is shit for messing with yujus mic bc they were mad at her. Anyone else see the saebi favoritism?!?
Exactly bro like their favoritism towards Saebi,Koko and Mai is insane the judges were too harsh towards Yuju and they were trying their best to make sure that Koko got the main dancer & main rapper part instead of Yuju Feels bad for my girl Yuju 😞❤
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Imo Jeemin proved she was going to only go up from now on with her La vie en rose performance! Like she took the Center position and worked really Damn hard and the end result paid off! Plus from new spoilers It seems she was center again and Leader of her team, so Yeah I believe in her
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Sujung just dug herself into a deep hole cuz her fanbase wasn't that strong to begin with. I actually quite liked her before this episode but I can't bring myself to put her in my top 6 anymore
This is literally the most realist comment 😭
THE 7 MEMBER MOVE IS ACTUALLY SMTH I KEPT THINKING OF TOO.
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i rlly do agree on the sujung one. she was always one of my favorite picks but now im going to re-think on that.
i also love the way jiyoon stood up for mai saying "but i thought we are a team tho" (or smth like that) and went straight up to mai helping her out.
she also was so happy when jeemin managed to do her part right which was soo cute
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
please really think that, they adore each other, sujung always support her, but just wanna focus now on her, she always chose the things that were better for the team (like going to the creative unit)
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@dollkye she imitaded her in front of a bunch of girls.
i respect her choice that shes fighting for herself now as long as its not a team mission but then she shouldn't be mentioning mais flaws in front of other girls and behind mais back.
if she wont tell mai about her mistakes and how to improve then she should not talk about these mistakes behind her back
@@nnnn-sc2im i know and i believe that its kind of evil edited but it wont be completely be edited
I don't know if Sujung's case counts as evil edit since she definitely said those lame things about Mai, but it's obvious they don't want her in the final lineup, not only for showing what she said but for the feedback she gets from the producers, that she's only a dancer, that her choreography was nothing new, that she's imitating CL, even when she was main vocalist they criticized her expressions. They know she has a lot of support and want to reduce her votes and it's pretty obvious. I think same happens with Yuju, especially after all the critisicm she got on the last ep and how her screentime has been decreasing
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
sujung is so rude doing that to mai. shouldn’t be surprised mnet is airing that clip of her. she should’ve just kept her opinion to herself. also the girls who laughed with her also at fault.
judges being so bias every time new episodes out are so freaking clear. they have their fav trainee. sometimes I wonder if mnet also evil edited them by not airing their opinion fully because their criticism is one dimensional.
since part 1 sujung and jungeun always falls into the spectrum of “you’re good, but i expected more from you”. when sujung became the main dancer in part 1, they say she should’ve just stay in sgdf if she just want to dance. but they didn’t reconsider that in part 1 is a team mission so everyone is tasked to do what they’re best at for their group to win. oh they did compliment her creativity for the creative team mission, but it’s not enough and they EXPECTED MORE. when she finally chose to become a main vocal, they ended up criticize her voice. the same with jungeun. her being stable and sing beautifully is not enough. she needs to be extraordinary since she always rank 1. however when it come to their fav trainees doing bare minimum they say “it’s okay, you’re doing great. just keep practicing, I know you could reach it” (yes i’m watching u monica and that producer with hat). i want to barf🤢
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
sujung loves mai, they are friends and sujung ALWAYS compliment her, she only said that why would she help someone else, THATS NOT RUDE, specially when everyone did the SAME
the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
@@dollkye friends?? you'd better watch again the way Sujung was mocking Mai ON CAMERA. you have to know how rude Sujung is. friends never do this.
@@user-rq1he4we7p she wasn't mocking her omg, also, do you know that it wouldn't be the first time mnet forced someone into saying something just to make drama
Actually I don’t imagine neither sujung nor mai in the final lineup and sujung did mai really dirty
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Yeah Mai ranked 10/12 in the save vote but this episode a lot of people are voting for her because of the situation with Sujung
@@dollkye Its not about opinion, like you know someone is lacking in something and YOU are supposed to tell them that. Sujung didn't chose to, which is why many fans got upset.
also hoping for 7 members! pretty much everyone still in the show feels ready or almost ready to debut, plus it feels like there's an over-saturation of 6 member ggs (or 6 member ggs that became 5 member ggs) atm. 7 would be a really fun dynamic, esp for choreos.
yuju is one of my picks, though I don't think she has much of a chance anymore (unless through voting). it sucked to see her get blamed for mic issues this ep, and sucked that the producers don't like her retro rap style--she is 2nd gen coded in a way, but this is something I found refreshing
aside from the sujung drama, sudden koko favoritism (that probably started after mnet saw koko's popularity among the fans) and the koko/yuju situation made me furious to the point of almost rage quitting i-land
at this point it was obvious that mnet sabotaged yuju's mic (for the second time in the show) and yuju got criticised basically for her mic not working, yet koko got all the praises while she either mispronounced or skipped one of the words in the rap part (noticed that in fancam). i feel genuinely scared for yuju now, especially since she might also get hate from being dragged to the sujung/mai drama (while her embarrassment for sujung was visible during the conversation)
It's funny how everyone seems to feel okay with Koko, when she is so bad at rapping and vocal and still people vote for her and judges praise her, when she made so many mistakes. Besides she has 0 stage presence, but everyone ignores that. It makes me contemplate that this show is rigged
can't say koko is that bad, but both yuju and yui are much better than her in both areas (would prefer yui in part 2 over koko), and i really don't like koko's voice, especially in the rap parts. sadly, it seems that the koko favoritism from both mnet and fans will only be getting stronger, now that the spoilers for ep9 performances are out.
what is even more sad, it seems that aside from koko, there will be... two more (one at the very least) contestants in the debut line-up, whose on-stage charisma just repels me, while both are talented and have good skills (i do my best to give them the chance to grow on me in every episode, but so far only yui managed to get from my "disliked" tier to "activelh voting" tier only to be eliminated right after that).
at this point it's likely that i won't stan the group or will be solo stanning my picks who make it (though i am delulu dreaming of only a couple of my picks making it to the line-up, both pulling the youngseo card and debuting with all my other picks)
EXACTLY, damn, I thought I was the only one who thought that, I start to think I might be the only one that doesn't see her talent
I don't get what stage presence people talk about tbh. In the Blackpink performance, Yuju and Sujung stand out the most to me but people keep saying she's center material.
Moreover people said she KILLED her rap in Baggy Jeans and I thought (am I the only one that thought she has a hard time stabilizing her rap and vocal?)
Koko and Mai are the contestants that I don't get the hype over them tbh, I think both of them are overrated
i really like Sujung, she is still in my lineup but her actions can't excuse she said what she said. it really sucks cuz she is an excellent trainee and is debut ready but her actions will more likely cause her to be out of many people's lineups. i really hope she apologizes and that we see her learn from her actions cuz i would hate to see her go.
I feel like she won’t debut this was definitely the final blow she didn’t necessarily have a small fan base or a gaint one but it was a growing weak one which wasn’t that strong in Korea and what she’s done has pisses off more global viewers like Japan and western countries as Mai is a bigger Contestant over there meaning combined with sunjungs weak Korean support and split global support I think she’s doomed to rank high just not high enough to debut:(
Sujung is (was?) my top pick and I was so ready to jump on the evil editing train, but as much as it stings I have to admit that nah, girl did it herself. My disappointment is immense and my day is ruined (nah not really lol but it does put Sujung in something of a different light). Honestly I'm most shocked at the fact she didn't realise how bad she was going to make herself look lmao
I’m happy that you highlighted the biased of sarang and Mai, even if one of them is your favourite. I hate how much the judges ignore and criticize so much about some members and praise other even if they did a mistake, like poor Juwon, I understand that she es not the most popular contestant, but (maybe it was not shown but that’s important as it is screen time) she didn’t get any reaction from the judges during the performance and she also didn’t get feedback after it or when the results were shown (I’m not going to talk about how criminal it was the score that they gave her in my opinion).
Pd: I actually think that the 7 members theory is actually pretty good.
I honestly hope that the judges actually gave Juwon praise and feedback and it just wasn’t broadcasted, but even so…it’s extremely telling because it really goes to show how mnet is kinda trying to hide her, as if she didn’t exist 🙄
I don’t like what Sujung said at all. And although i understand where she’s coming from, there’s nothing to justify her saying what she did. But people are taking this and running with it. Don’t try and justify hating on someone for a mistake they made in a highly competitive and stressful environment (where we don’t know what happens beyond what we are shown) If jiyoon can make a mistake and be human then so can sujung… Like do ppl rly think all the girls have been angels? Mnet may not have “evil edited” her but they sure can and do pick and choose what and who they show. If a trainee they like talks bad about someone they sure won’t show it. Yeah she messed up big time. But canceling and hating her for it isn’t much better.
About Jeemin, she lost a lot of confidence from R U Next which definitely hindered her in part 1, but her pushing for center this ep and finally hitting the note showed that she's bringing her confidence back! In the next ep I heard she goes for a bigger part as well. Completely agree that the judges are biased. While Sarang still did amazing, her mistakes should not have been as glossed over as they were. It's obvious that they like her and if another trainee made a similar mistake, they would have been heavily criticized. No hate to Sarang (its not her fault)!
#1: As soon as Sujung said that, I was like "well it was nice knowing you Sujung, time to find someone else for my top 6 predictions". I get why she did what the did but the way she was mocking Mai ON CAMERA was not just mean, but also really dumb, since she had to know that people wouldn't approve of that
#2: Jiyoon FLEW up my ranking this past episode, it was so satisfying seeing her do a great job as a leader and a performer, the effort she put in for her teammates was heartwarming and so yeah she's definitely a solid pick for me now.
#3: When they chose Jeemin to be the center, I could see it coming a mile away but I was still like "why not Sarang?" because I agree, you can tell in Jeemin's performance that she lacks confidence. I think the switch to a live audience will be good for her though, because she has so many fans that can boost her confidence before a performance, and you could already tell it was helping through the LVER performance.
#4: Yeah, I also don't like how the judges are either "POSITIVE POSITIVE POSITIVE" or "NEGATIVE NEGATIVE NEGATIVE" and there's no healthy balance of comments.
#5: As soon as I hear that there was going to be Live Audience votings I was like "Oh no it's Queendom Puzzle all over again". I'm glad the judges votes are there to negate some of the unfair judgement of the audience but it's still not wonderful.
#6: Sadly, I believe they already told us that the producers will be picking 3 of the final group members, so I don't see this happening. I wish it would, though.
loving the consistency of uploading videos!! you go girl🫶💗
Thank you, i truly appreciate it 💕🥹
2:49 jiyoon has always been nice y’all just fall for mnet’s dramatic ass editing
Hating on a 17 year old girl .. saying she's over just because of one mistake that is not really that big of a mistake ...you guys should be over you are the real bullies here
It's not called hating, it's called criticism. Any kpop fan knows how the way sujung acted was problematic. It's a big deal, and it wasn't a mistake.
@@lsrfmislife If you think this is a "big deal " ,I don't know how you go on living in the real world. I hope you are doing okay.
let's normalize giving second chances to talented young girls who kept showing nothing but love towards each other from the beginning
@@lsrfmislife and no it's not criticism.. people are creating an image of her whole personality based on one minute convo
@@lsrfmislifeJust my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me.
So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them?
This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say.
Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
As if ppl never talk behind someone/classmate back
I have been binge watching your videos, and I agree with you ALOT! Almost all of our opinions are similar and I highly agree!
I'm shocked, Sujung was my number 1 pick since the first episode, i only watch because of her, what do i do now help 😭
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Vote for her, shes too talented to debut. Idols are coworkers anyway
It’s ok to be disappointed and still vote for her. Having one bad moment doesn’t mean she is no longer worthy of debuting.
Not trying to mean but I think that ppl need to get over what sujung did ik she was harsh but it’s a survival show so her not helping mai is understandable as sujung wants to debut and mai is clearly favored by the judges so by not helping her while it may be rude it is helpful for herself to debut
I can understand not wanting to help, but why didn’t she just keep her opinions to herself? Why did she go and mock her in front of other people that weren’t even in the team? It’s almost like she wanted to discredit her in front of the other girls. Not wanting to help a rival is one thing, but laughing about her mistakes wasn’t cool at all.
yeah it was unnecessary but I don’t believe she doesn’t deserve to debut anymore
@@soft4taengit wasn’t mocking oh my DAYSSSS
i hope gyuri and juwon get more recognition bc they are so underrated and mnet is no even giving them screen time they both have realy good qualitys.
I agree about the live voting thing seems like it would just discourage the girls, I really hope the next stage is the last one
I think Sujung needs to go now. But Mai needed to go like yesterday
Exactly
Idk if sujung needs to go cus the skill is tHer but the attitude isn’t it
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkyeI found you everywhere 😂
Oh spill, mai's gotten this far with absolute mediocrity
Bro they way everybody bashed me for saying the same thing is crazy ! 😭😭😭 people even called me an hater and spreading fake news but i did not lie tho ? 😭
judges are so biased fr jung eun is most talanted there let's not lie but her stage presence feels little too technical however she showed improvement and got 12th place shame on judges
They’re very biased towards Saebi and Mai.
@@i.n.-lino-hannie fr they are so pretty but judges praising them for breathing is too much
FR LIKE MAI IS BEING THE DAYEON 2.0
@@Wonycoded AND THE SAEBI SPECIAL TREATMENT IS WILDSDD SHE ALWAYS WINS even if she did not do as well as the others, like
@@i.n.-lino-hannie she is talanted but come on first place maybe 7th or 6th place imo
The thing that also upset me so much with Sujung is when she said “because I have such a strong voice Mai is trying to match that and she can’t” (she might’ve worded it differently but that’s basically what I remember her saying correct me if I’m wrong) and that made me so upset because it’s like when did Mai say that? It upset me because Sujung needs to realize that having that attitude isn’t going to get her into the group. And on top of that she’s not the best vocalist on the show either so she shouldn’t be criticizing her in front of everyone 😭
Before I give my thoughts let me give you some praise cus I love how we been getting content from you more often
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@dollkye that’s not a time or place.
U can have ur thoughts but to everyone it shows lack of professionalism and lack of teamwork. She quite literally shot herself in the foot with the audience and potentially how the others view her cus people might be fine in ur face but they gonna think ur messy for stuff like that
@@AUGHHHHHBBG we don't even know if she wanted to say that, with fu yaning in gp999 Mnet make her said some things to make drama
@@dollkye ik y’all was gonna use that too.. Idc
My girl Mai DID NOT DESERVE THAT. Good thing Jiyoon helped her with her vocals
Following this saga has been so crazy to me. I have great hopes for the grp tho
all the girls that are left are pretty talented and even those who need to improve are improving day by day so no matter what happens, i think the final line up will slay regardless of who makes it!
The way Sujung acted completely threw me off and made me uncomfortable tbh, I get her reasoning but talking about Mai behind her back and to all those girls... just mean girl behavior. It was also disappointing cause we know she is part of a dance crew so seeing her being not team focused to this extent was a shock. I am aware mnet probably used their edit skills to make it shadier but I'm trying to think of it without all the editing and it still feels unnecessary. Yeah the challenge now is individual but maybe focus on yourself and don't talk bad about the others, specially cause this competition is to be on a group so what's gonna happen once you are on a group with someone that you bad mouthed on national television?
I've actually grown fond of Jeemin during this show but I honestly wasn't impressed by her during RU Next because of this same reason. She was good and did her parts good during the performances but I barely remember her taking risks or standing out (but tbf it was probably the editing). It was like, she knew she was good so she did what she knew to do, she just stayed in one place. Now, I imagine not having debuted last time and her current ranking is making her more anxious but unfortunately the way that anxiety manifests is by shutting down. I'm glad she overcame it and I'm happy for her because she clearly put in the work, but she needs to take more risks and fight cause, again, she's good but all the girls are also good.
I actually really like Yuju, Gyuri and Juwon and I think they did really well in their performances but the judges barely acknowledged them. Gyuri specially, during Part 1 she was consistently good and during La Vie En Rose she shined! I'm so sad cause it's obvious MNET is trying to give them less screentime and overall focus. I'm convinced they want to eliminate the three girls.
I somehow agree on the public, it def will have an impact on the girls' confidence so I think they should've done 25% live audience and 75% producers
They have to pull a sixteen and add one or two more members during the final cause I just can't pick 6
Sujung has had a harsh personality from the beginning. I think there were two missions where she warned teammates that their positions were only until the interim check-in, and that made me uneasy about her from the beginning. Jiyoon also has a harsh personality, but Jiyoon seems to have the confidence to help others for a healthy competition.
I think for jiyoon case that she was someone that shuts down when things don’t go planned. She improved tho which I’m happy about it
lowkey feel like they’re slowly erasing fuko gyuri juwon
Yes, Gyuri has always been ignored since part 1, but I think Koreans vote for her visual, that's how she survived (she's talented though)
But for Juwon and Fuko, they barely got any screen time in the recent episode and the only time they shine is during the final performance
@@nobody-rw8oh yepp gyuri is really loved among knetz they think she’s a cute maknae but im still kinda iffy about her skills
Are we not talking about how their performance, especially the supposed "killing parts" are just the contestants exaggerating their facial expressions?
sujung is lit hugging her in the next ep, she is not a bad person
sujung LOVES mai and they had a lot of interactions during the show
nobody said she was a bad person- she just made a bad choice. obviously she is entitled to her own opinions, but it was unnecessary to say things like that out loud and behind mai’s back.
@@_seri.haiguys they were all talking about that
i think sujung for sure was evil edited BUT that doesn't excuse that she said what she said bc one thing mnet cant do is put words in her mouth
Idc sujung is innocent the clip was in fact heavily edited and there’s a twt thread debunking it. The real thing wasn’t as mean as it sounded. Mai is not ready to debut and does in fact have a nasally voice, sujung just spoke fax. Anyways vote for Ryu Sarang ❤
1. Y’all use the editing excuse every ep stop it
2. That doesn’t mean be messy
How is it an evil edit when she literally said what she said? There’s nothing to debunk at all.
The fact that Mai isn’t ready to debut isn’t a justification to mock her. And even if Mai has a nasal voice let’s not act like Sujung doesn’t…she always sounds like she has a cold 💀
@@vangyul first of all, yes what sujung said was out of pocket but the “laughing scenes” and scenes like that we’re all edited, if u give me ur twt @ I can tag u in the thread debunking the clip. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so stop commenting on their relationship, literally in the teaser to next episode we see Mai crying and Sujung sitting right next to her and comforting her 💀 so they obviously made up. Sujung was on sdgf and that show is all abt belittling ur competitors and when she heard “1v1”, yeah she got a competitive. Pls put urself in her pov. And p.s, Sujung does NOT sound like she has a nasally voice, u don’t need to use Mai’s struggles and lie that Sujung has the same.
@@AUGHHHHHBBG first of all, yes what sujung said was out of pocket but the “laughing scenes” and scenes like that we’re all edited, if u give me ur twt @ I can tag u in the thread debunking the clip. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes so stop commenting on their relationship, literally in the teaser to next episode we see Mai crying and Sujung sitting right next to her and comforting her 💀 so they obviously made up. Sujung was on sdgf and that show is all abt belittling ur competitors and when she heard “1v1”, yeah she got a competitive. Pls put urself in her pov.
@@AUGHHHHHBBGsujung is also getting absolutely TORN UP by toxic Mai Stans. Yes what she said wasn’t the best thing to say but that DOES NOT give u the right to body shame and call her ugly. Ppl are being so nasty on twt and she’s just a minor :( desperation can lead to certain actions.
i find it hard to believe that sujung said that on her own accord the thing is mnet has also been known to feed lines to trainees fan yaning from gp999 said the producers told her to say that line and edited to be way more dramatic than it was
Just my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me.
So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them?
This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say.
Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
Honestly I’ll still vote for sujung like y’all misunderstood what she meant 😢
STOP BELIVING MNET OMG- juwon asked if they think the mentors will comment on their tones and sujung just said her opinion
She didn’t laugh at mai she literally laughed because yuju asked her to tell her opinion to mai and sujung explained that she doesn’t want to tell her because it’s an individual match and she wants to survive which isn’t wrong
stop spreading false informations and and making her look like the bad guy by saying “talking badly about mai behind her back”
“stop believing mnet” and it’s actually things that came out of Sujung’s mouth…she quite literally started singing Mai’s parts exaggerating her nasal tone, which means mocking her. Also, when Yuju asked her if she was going to tell Mai and Sujung said no, she laughed as if she was very pleased with herself because she secretly hoped that by not telling Mai, then Mai would have messed up and would receive criticism by the judges. Please don’t try to blindly defend her just because she’s one of your picks. What happened was very clear.
@@soft4taeng that's not what happened she just guested what the judges will tell
@@soft4taeng and actually, they can make sujung say some things, they did that with fu yaning
@@soft4taengJust my opinion, but if I were a contestant in a survival show I would do anything to hide my evil side and only show the positive side of mine to the camera bc I know the fans will be watching me.
So.. Isn't it a bit unlogical for any contestant to behave badly and end up showing their bad side to the 'fans' that they have to depend on to vote for them?
This is my opinion but I feel like every 'drama' scene in a survival show is just a fake dialogue the show forced the contestants to say.
Mnet didn't even want Sujung in the lineup since the beginning anyway, she gets criticized to stand out more bc of her height in the entrance test, she got called out for not being creative in the unit test, cricitised for her vocal in IWALY then again for copying CL style, like HELLO?
stop sarang is my number1 pick too but i was kind of scratching my head when they dismissed sarang's mistake and harshly criticized yuju even if she didn't do a single mistake...........
I think they use live voting because it makes it much easier for them to achieve the results they want while providing the veneer of the public having input. MNET/BlackLabel are the ones choosing who is in the audience. They can simply choose to invite audience members based on who they are stanning and who they dislike. You can then get the results that Jiyoon and Jungeun had (regardless of how they actually performed).
To be honest, I do have a feeling that we are going to have 7 members cause they said 6 and didn’t mention pd pick so I think 6 are gonna made it through votes and 1 gonna be the pd pick
And here’s my lineup
1- Jungeun as a main vocal
2- Jiyoon as a main vocal too
3- Fuko as a lead vocalist, and here a pretty strong vocal line
4- Koko, main dancer and rapper as well even though not all groups need rappers
5- Jeemin : lead dancer center
6- Saebi : a strong dancer and can be center as well
7- Sarang : another one who can fit center and she’s a really good dancer
Agree
Agree that public voting shouldn’t play a part in the ranking so early on as it can get very discouraging for the less popular members.. or at the least the weightage of the public vote shouldn’t be at 50%. We have to remember that in order for a group to be successful, they need the group to be well balanced and the members to be good at what they are doing.
I'll always side eye anyone who talks badly behind someone's back to a group of people, we all witnessed it happened to Heeseung in season 1 and it absolutely DESTROYED his confidence to lead a group/team in the future. I'm still partially convinced it's why he's not the leader of Enhypen. I just feel so bad for Mai because I'd be so hurt in that situation, I hope her and Sujung can talk it out.
as for Jeemin, it's clear that RUNEXT ruined her confidence and it's sad to see. (in RUN she would get criticized in every performance no matter how good she did the judges would always find something to nitpick. also being 4th in fanvotes and not debuting bc of the producers would screw up anyone's mindset idc who you are) but as for iland2 I hope in part 2 she has a breakthrough performance.
mai is near the bottom of my ranking and i thought sujung ATE i am the best but i can’t support her like keep that for after the show when your at home girl
anyway vote yuju ❤
Like juwon and yuju need some spotlight becuase yuju get's scenes but never in the performance like dude she's been slaying since start . If u keep highlighting someone ofc they'll be the one's who stand out and stop being so biased and intrested on one contestent . Juwon also slayed the mist in I'm the best perfomance but she literally didn't even get any response when she was thevmost stable and best . Juwon and yuju deserve better
I still think it's 6, bare chance of making it 7. Mnet is full of surprises but still they don't change the announcement for final lineup. GP999 and BP, as well as the Produce series proved that once they set their final number, they don't change it.
Judges are too biased towards Koko and Saebi. It's very obvious. Girlies getting praised for bare minimum. Both were my top picks since the Panoram performance, but I'm kind of getting tired of seeing too much over exaggerated praises by the judges.
I feel jeemin has gained more confidence after this la vie en rose performnace... Like there was live audience chanting her name loudly and jdges openly appreciated her so much and also aming live voting she herself got to see her results so im really excited to see what jeemin does for the next ep.... Girlie lost most of her confidence and bubbly personality after RUN (talk about a shit of a show)
People in the comments really don’t understand editing. They can take clips and smash them together to make it sound like someone is saying or responding to something they weren’t. Also do you really think everyone else in the room was just silent? Mnet only showed Sujung talking and made it out to be rude not conversational like it was. They could have evil edited anyone but chose Sujung, and come on, we should have seen it coming with how much the judges/ mnet are against her. Y’all would defend your favs if they did the same as Sujung
Even if you were to take Sujung's words out of context, it's still pretty clear what she was implying. I don't think it's a problem if she didn't wanna help a rival during the competition, the problem is that she was laughing about her while imitating her and the meaning wouldn't change even if her words were taken out of context. The fact that mnet only showed Sujung's comments to sabotage her is surely possible, but she said what she said and i can guarantee that if my faves did the same, i definitely wouldn't try to justify them, in fact there are many people whose fave was Sujung and they started vibing with her less after her comments...people are allowed to change opinions on trainees.
@@soft4taeng she wasn’t imitating just demonstrating Mai’s nasal placement. The only time she “laughed at her” was the clip with Yuju which clearly was the out of context part because it cut to a completely different moment. She was also laughing at Yuju’s words not Mai. And it’s as if people ignore the part when Sujung said she thought it was amazing how Mai was practicing long and hard. Sujung clearly loves Mai and was being honest on what she thought the judges would say, not mean.
Last opinion i agree so much especially after the first iland
matter of fact, perfect unentertaining show rather than audition supposed to be on talents and quality of performance. Double standard by contestant to contestant, popularity votes rather than performance quality. Judge inconsistency, ridiculous shoutout by dance director to mediocre ok vocalist, so predictable evil editing and forced narrative to make target hero storyline is all Mnet can do and sadly it ages too old to peruade me as far as auditon goes. So far So predictable, but still worth watching how hard nonheroes in the show can push themselves.
koko is overrated tbh
The Judge I feel are being extra. Like one on one they seem better, but in the group setting they go over broad.
Embora a sua argumentação pareça ser motivada pelo fato de ser a Mai que a Sujung estava tentando prejudicar, não muda o fato de estar correta no mérito. O que me incomodou foi o fato dela parecer tentar fazer as outras competidoras pensarem como ela, não apenas estar se expressando. Infelizmente as garotas que estavam ouvindo foram muito neutras com esse tipo de opinião. Mas não é a primeira vez que a Sujung demonstrou guardar para si determinados conselhos, para que outras pessoa não brilhem mais que ela (no fundo ela sabe que seu talento é dançar e nada mais). Sobre a voz dela: depois daquele contraste do episódio 6 (com a Jiyoon), ficou MUITO evidente o quanto a voz dela é similar a um prato sendo aranhado por um garfo. Ela destoa muito do restante do grupo, em vários aspectos. Infelizmente os "órfãos da Lingling" parecem ter escolhido ela para apoiar... Se a Coreia apoiar ela, existem grandes chances dela ocupar o lugar de alguém "que mereça".
Quando mais cedo todos perceberem que existem 3 grupos em qualquer reality, mais cedo vão perceber o quanto as vontades (1) da empresa, (2) do público e (3) o talento, precisam se encontrar. De nada vale a empresa escolher alguém que o público não aprecia. De nada vale existir alguém com talento que não empolga o publico e de nada vale alguém que o público e a empresa gostam, mas que não tem talento, nem conseguem ser "maquiados pelos equipamentos de som", pois cedo ou tarde essas pessoas vão ser percebidos como ruins e não terão capacidade de cativar novos fãs.
Por último... Seis estreantes é o mesmo que "uma história sem final feliz". Eu gostaria que fossem sete ou oito, mas depois de ontem eu fiquei bastante desanimado em seguir acompanhando o programa... Não entendo como a empresa faz um investimento gigantes como esteja reality, para estrear APENAS seis integrantes. Não é como se as outras garotas fossem ruins...
Eu sei que é difícil para os fãs da Yuju admitirem, mas até o presente momento (aos olhos dos "não fãs"), ela não consegue se destacar quando é colocada para competir diretamente com outra pessoa. Basta ver como ela se saiu quando foi colocada para competir com a Yui... Ela perdeu a vaga e a Yui foi bastante elogiada pelos produtores.
O mesmo aconteceu com ela em relação à Koko, que mesmo com a dificuldade do idioma, parecia ter mais presença de palco e movimentos mais compatíveis com a coreografia. Não tem jeito, a maior chance da Yuju estrear é SE ela conseguir se destacar mais que a Koko, mas lamento informar, até o episódio 9 isso não acontecem NEM COM A KOKO precisando de ajuda para as pronúncias do inglês e do coreano...
AGREE EXCEPT SUJUNG MAI IS SO BAD AND OVERRATED
I see ppl defending her in social media
Also wat did she say i missed the episode
Basically they were both in the team for i am the best by 2ne1 and Mai was struggling with her lines because she didn’t get some parts of the melody right. Also, she was forcing the nasal tone too much and it was kind of unpleasing to hear. Sujung noticed that, but instead of helping she mocked Mai’s way of singing in front of the other girls and said she wan’t going to tell Mai about her mistakes (most likely because she wanted her to do badly on stage).
Only Jiyoon (the team leader) talked to Mai and pointed out what she needed to improve, helping her get it right. I get this is a competition but Sujung just came off as mean cause she was really talking trash behind Mai’s back.
She said that Mai's voice is too nasal and she tries to push it but it doesn't sound good (She said this in her back) so Yuju said ''aren't you going to tell her?'' and Sujung said something like ''Why? I want to survive''
sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
@@soft4taeng sujung was just sharing her opinion about who might get criticism from the judges. Then yuju asked her “why don’t you tell her” and sujung said “why should i? this is an individual match” and was laughing at that, not at mai’s vocals
Ohh ok
Damn girl I get the competition but your supposed to work as a team. How is she supposed to be in a group if she doesn't work well
I rlly wanted her to debut
Also why would mnet keep wat she said
opinion 6 please be true 🙏
Omg
vote for queen mai everyone