I hate that I didn't put that together until you said it. Like I knew that's what the bomb was doing, but didn't recognize that it put them to use in that scene
While reading this I said aloud, "Yup. Yup. Yup!" Of course, that's what it is. There are a couple of loose threads in this "Part", and I think you've solved this one.
I fully believe that Ilsa is still alive and I think there are several clues that point to this. Her first scene was her and Ethan faking her death. Later in the group meeting they talked about needing to think like an AI in order to outsmart it but they don't tell us the plan. Then after it was revealed that one of the girls needs to die, Ilsa and Ethan exchange a look and she smiles. Also Ilsa "dies" on a bridge which could be a reference to Jon Voight faking his death on bridge in the first film. Now that the entity thinks Ilsa dead she can more effectively help Ethan work against it. It's also worth noting that the knife she was stabbed with was her own.
@@andrewwebster4348 in ghost protocol Ethan revealed to Brandt that he had faked Julia's death as well so I think hes pretty good at it at this point. Of course its possible shes really dead, but I refuse to believe they would do Ilsa that dirty after Tom had them cut the kiss st the end of GP because he thought it would undermine her character.
Once again we see Shea Whigham play an authority figure unable to catch and arrest his prime suspect. He also did this in Joker and Beyond the Spiderverse.
Why is it that James and Mason are so fun to listen to? It’s rare to find a podcast where, no matter what they talk about, I’m in. They could talk about how to make a bologna sandwich… and I’d be all ears.
I love that we had no idea who the main villain was. The entity is so unsettling and I love the sound it makes. I need Part 2 now! Although it may get delayed by the strikes.
That's the idea, Tom Cruise represents the last of the action stars. People used to go to the cinema to watch Schwarzenegger, Travolta, Van Dame, Willis, etc. Not to watch Terminator or Predator or whatever
Yes, the series generally is not a box office monster. Any improvement in performance from previous films is the result of people knowing what they will get with a Tom Cruise movie.
I took my girlfriend to see this as her first mission impossible film. All she knew going in was that there are sometimes masks. The look of confusion on her face throughout the movie was priceless. She said she’d see the next one
the only problem I had with this movie was how they treated Ilsa, it seemed like they threw away the arc that her and ethan had been building for the past 2 movies in favor of grace. I thought grace was great but I just wished they treated Ilsa better. Overall 9/10
@@Kar1s3n yea, they had originally planned to shoot in Austria and blow up a real hitsorical bridge, but with covid delays the local community there was able to stop them. That's why they had to shoot the train sequence elsewhere.
Same here. As much I liked Grace and thought she was a great new addition, I felt like Ilsa was treated poorly in the film. She was such a badass, nuanced character.
Hayley Atwell was great in this. I always really enjoy watching her, because she always looks like she's having a blast. The hint of a smile she had the entire first part of the movie felt genuine, and it was great that her character was closer to a normal person than a spy. She needs her own action spy franchise. She was great as Agent Carter, and I'd love to see more of that, or even something simple completely different.
My favorite part was every 20 minutes they would look at the camera and say "this is part 1. We are doing this mission in part 1 and then this separate mission in part 2"
i loved when tom cruise said it's mission impossible - dead reckoning: part one-ing time and then proceeded to mission impossible - dead reckoning: part one all over the place
Actually pretty fun and interesting fact about the production of this film: due to the initial scene taking place onboard a submarine under some blue ice the film was given the working title of “Blue Harvest”
The god-like AI that can do anything...doesn't really do much. Faking Benji's voice was good, but more of that please. Benji rides in a self driving car, I was shocked that the AI didn't take the car over. I would've loved to see the AI control a drone army, or edit security footage to frame the IMF boys for a crime. But why do that when you can have Mantis attack Tom Cruise with a lead pipe.
I also throught for sure the AI was going to take control of the car since the car loudly announced "SELF DRIVING MODE ACTIVATED." The Entity didn't really do anything to try and stop the train heist while it was happening. The Entity could've driven Benji off the cliff as a way to stop Ethan from getting to the train. However, I think they didn't do that since it was a BMW product placement, and BMW probably didn't want them to show one of their cars being hacked into and killing it's driver.
That is a very good point about the self driving car. I feel like that was maybe in an earlier draft or something. Why introduce that and then not use it?
Thinking about this more: if there was a cut scene in which the entity took control of the self-driving car, that would explain why Benji shouted "I am having a very stressful day!" When he was in the car. I thought that line was weird because nothing really happened to him, at least as compared to the stress the other characters were under. I would bet a lot of money there used to be a scene in which he had a stressful battle with the entity controlled car.
It feels like it only comes in when it's convenient to add an obstacle like "the satellites are down!" And does almost nothing else. Them needing to go analog at the end doesn't meaningfully disrupt their operation. Benji uses self driving mode on his car for christ's sake, that wasn't something the AI could hack?
the fact that her character had so little to do besides being killed off makes me think she’s not really dead and she will play a crucial role in defeating the entity
I don't think she's dead either. Taking everyone off the board seems like the best way to counter Project 2501, I mean The Entity. Seriously though, I love that they've incorporated the The Puppetmaster plot from Ghost in the Shell into the M:I Franchise, as a metaphor for the threat of AI being handed the reigns of human stories.
I hope she’s not dead. I didn’t really like graces character, because all she did before she joined up was consistently betray Ethan, so I didnt get why they wanted her on board. And something about the way it was like “okay that one’s dead, now this one is in” - and didn’t mention her death for the entire rest of the movie - felt slightly gross
@@ribby9069 There's that line where Grace says, "She died because of me," and Luther (almost correcting her) says, "You're alive because of her." The IMF team is all about rejecting binary choices. They are the embodiment of a third option. Ethan is going to protect everyone. In that way, he's the anti-Bond. I think Grace is a good addition. The real test of her character was posing as the white widow, getting everything she wanted from Kittredge, and then rejecting it because she understood what was at stake. Then she lifts both keys. That was a high wire act without a net.
Just seen it today. As a fan of Mission Impossible I went in with high expectations, but left the cinema with the unshakeable feeling that Eagle Eye did the whole "AI-gone-rogue" plot justice and is in my opinion the better film of the two - despite being 15 years old at this point. It's a combination of the plot holes, clichés, almost endless exposition, and some fight scenes which needed better choreography. It's also a shame to have had almost all of the biggest stunts spoiled by the trailers.
It tried so hard to be skynet without understanding what made Arnie and the t-1000 terrifying. I’m also a fan of the series and I thought this one was one of the weakest in the series. Many decisions made about the direction the story took and certain characters left me confused and frustrated. I’m glad others were able to enjoy it, but man this one didn’t sit well with me at all
The cliches, the retcons, and the fact it was 3 hours of mostly exposition as just a part 1 that killed it for me. The Pom Klementieff cliche of bloodthirsty psychopath to good guy in 5 minutes was so ridiculous.
@@treytison1444 "The cliches" - Can you elaborate on that? What cliche are you talking about? "the retcons" - The retcon was forced for sure but it wasn't really terrible. "the fact it was 3 hours of mostly exposition as just a part 1 that killed it for me." - There's only 30 minutes of exposition and most of them are pretty good until it got repetitive on the train. "The Pom Klementieff cliche of bloodthirsty psychopath to good guy in 5 minutes was so ridiculous." - She is more of a bloodthirsty maniac rather than a psychopath. And you just forgot that Ethan literally spared her life.
@@ThePowerscalingCinephilecliche of Grace being stupid for no reason and not learning from her mistakes 3 times now? Why run away from the one person saving ur life at every turn? Retcon is how they introduced 2 new characters that’s “been apart of his past” that the audience has never seen once. It’s not the worst but should be better. The exposition was fine but annoying cause the audience already knew about the submarine and what it unlocks so we’re just spending 3 hours watching the characters playing catch up. Ethan sparing her life is cool but that’s the ONLY thing the ai couldn’t predict? Also anyone can see that last minute save coming.
I felt like the total comedic lift in this movie was done by the two FBI agents who after deciding 'lets not gun down one of our own in a firefight afterall' They became like Spike the bulldog in Tom and Jerry 😂
26:47 "...which was originally for their ... silent running drive?" "yeah something like that" IT WAS FOR DEAD RECKONING NAVIGATION IT'S DEAD RECKONING THEY SAY IT IN THE SCNENE
@@jwebbnature Wrong. It means navigating by only using position, vector and time, which the AI allows them to do easily, which allows them to perpetually run silently.
the very beginning of the cliff stunt was pretty cool. you could tell by the look of Tom's face at the beginning of the stunt that he was shitting his pants a bit which brought that realism on the theatre screen
Also the woman who helps him is named Grace. Also the first movie has the Bible as a major plot point. Also the bad guys in the last one were the Apostles.
The movie is fun, enjoyable, and all. But not the movie of the year or whatever. There are things that I feel they could have it done better. 1. Story - we've seen this plot hundred times before. Predictable. Big exposition dumps earlier on. I was under the impression that this movie would go deeper on Ethan's personal life and he would face a big dilemma. The movie does touch that part but only on the surface. Ethan barely contemplates on his choices. By the beginning of the third act, he moves on and you don't really feel that rage and sadness from coming him after what happened to IIsa. 2. Comedic timing - this bugged me a lot. I felt like I was watching a Marvel movie at some points. Really unnecessary during certain action scenes. 3. Length - you can feel the movie is dragged too long. Some scenes take a long time to complete just for them to back to square one. 3. Ilsa Faust - I hate how the movie handles her character just for a new character to shine. Okay maybe I should add some positive. Adding Hayley Atwell and Pom Klementieff into the movie that already has Rebecca Ferguson and Venessa Kirby is a big flex. At one point, all 4 of them are in the same scene. Loved it.
Agree with most of your points except I enjoyed the comedic interplay between Grace & Ethan during the chase scenes. I felt Dungeons & Dragons suffered more from a "Marvelization" aspect.
@@youtubegarbage7876 wow ok. Its not Fast & Furious, and yeah its sequels, then again everything is sequels and remakes now its possible that one franchise might actually stand out for upping themselves with each movie and trying to be creative and take risks like Tom and McQuarry are doing. Ever heard of James Bond?
@@tomlewis4205true, comedy is a big part of these new Mission Impossible movies, i mean its like how comedy plays into Roger Moore Bond movies, its not Marvelization if its something that Ghost Protocol already was doing
Ilsa was done dirty. She got sidelined then got fridged to make way for the new gal. Out of all of Ethan's past and present associates, she's by far the most capable. I would have much preferred if Ethan died to save the world and she lives to carry on the franchise. 😒 #JusticeForIlsa
She was, but it mostly felt like they just didn't know what to do with the character. She fit so well into the Solomon Lane era and the interplay with her and Ethan was great but never felt sustainable. I think it hurts because of the fakeout and, let's be honest, how absolutely incredible and enchanting Hayley Atwell is, but it's hardly the first time someone died in this series. Now if they ever kill Luther....I'll never forgive them.
How can you tell the difference between car chases? They are as predictable as sports games. How many apple stands did they run over as a guy jumped out of the way at th elast second?
@@Metallic-SunPom Klementieff has an absolute screen presence. Loved her performance even if her character was underwritten and had a weird arc, her facial expressions are great and hilarious
She reminds me of Xenia Onatopp - Goldeneye (or Fatima Blush - Never Say Never Again) in the sort of awesome insane somewhat masochistic female henchman, who is just wack and chews the scenery. Pom had a wonderful screen presence, her facial expressions really sell her character cutting back to her in the chase scene, she’s great at action choreography too.
I think the airport hijinks in Dead Reckognizing was superb. Haley Atwell is a great addition to the team and I don’t think I knew she was going to be in this until the day of.
The parachute crash part is supposed to be an example of Ethan Hunt being a force or chaos. Accidentally killing the right guy and being in the right car royally screwed with the Entity's plan, and was an astronomically low probability event. My bet is in part 2 its going to be a combo of more random / "impossible" events and characters acting out of character that will defeat the Entity. And by out of character, I mean people will be make unexpected choices, maybe inventing 3rd options.
All joking aside, I do think MI:2 has a more complete script and more effective villain. Despite the cheesiness, MI: 2 is a better, more complete film. Dead Reckoning part 1 had some of the worst writting in the series. Was very let down.
@@RobVespa I'm certainly not alone in thinking that the writing in DR was utter trash. Fast and Furious level cringe, but you go ahead and keep making excuses for the sloppy writing if you enjoy mediocrity on that level.
I totally agree about the bike jump off the mountain. It had no impact at all to me because they've shown us that scene and the behind the scenes footage 100 times before the movie released. You could see where they digitally edited out the ramp in the movie and that broke the immersion.
Thing is these stunts that they always promote are usually the least impressive because its hard to grasp any scale, its like the skydiving sequence in Fallout, obscured by CGI and mist and so it starts looking fake. Same with the train crash here was obscured with CGI. Thing is the motorcycle jump is so far away, riding across CGI grass when we know the entire layout of the actual stunt from videos, and then just some distant black blot that is him diving down when it could just be CGI. The stunts that really work are up-close and with his face, like him piloting a helicopter, him actually fighting people, him on a train
The first mission impossible movie I’ve ever properly watched in full. The first act was phenomenal, 8-9/10. Loved the airport and the chemistry between Grace and Ethan. Also loved Ethan as a character, as he was clearly defined and shown as admirable. However, the plot became convoluted towards the end and dragged it down to a 6.5-7/10 overall. The villain was bland, but still intriguing and had one or two great moments. The characters were the main thing going for it, most having decent depth, but still had no need for some moments like the train sequence with Grace continuously being scared. It built Ethan and her’s relationship but didn’t feel impactful and dragged for far too long, adding half an hour more to the movie than necessary. But the humour was great (especially the car scene) and felt very real and natural at times, no doubt because of Tom Cruise and Hayley Atwell’s dynamic.
Not really sure what happened after Fallout, it was far better written and had a level of maturity which Dead Reckoning lacked. I think 3, Ghost Protocol and Fallout were better, more memorable movies. Some parts of Dead Reckoning were just straight up juvenile. The sword fight between Ilsa and Gabriel, etc. I didn’t expect to be disappointed.
Same here. I came in ready to be just intrigued and ready to watch a good movie but this story was dogshit. Final set piece was really good but that’s about it. It seems the movie was padding for time until that train scene
I liked the call-backs from this one. The magic tricks from the first and the train sequence. The Venice scene where Ethan’s running also felt John woo esque. Really solid
The Venice sequence felt a lot like the opening Prague sequence from MI:1. But the sleight of hand was a lot of fun. I want a behind the scenes thing that shows that tom learned how to do that for real. It would impress me more than the stunts this time around.
@@gelfie2208 yeah I think it’s more like the Prague scene now that I’m thinking about it! It’s the desperation, the dirty cobbled street, the cinematography. I think it would need a bit more slo-no and pigeons to be John Woo haha
I think that Ethan being unable to choose between Hailey Atwell, whom he's just met and tried to ditch him several times, and Ilsa is silly. They wrote Grace into the plot but there is not chemistry, and no good reason for her to become so prominent. Bring Ilsa back. Also the exposition dialogue at the Pentagon at the start with actors performing a line relay looked really contrived. Last MI was definitely much better.
Absolutely agreed. This movie’s action sequences were nice but broken up by such clunky exposition. I like the way u put it becuz other ppl go to the other extreme of the film being trash. I still liked this movie but Fallout’s script was so tight, the action sequences were so well choreographed and also stripped down to essentials. This movie felt like it was just waiting for an action scene to start because it couldn’t handle dialogue, Fallout had a better synergy between it, it felt like the action carried and served the plot, here the plot just services one action scene to another. Also the stakes, the stakes are so important to set up clearly, here its just a vague AI and bureaucrats talking in vague endless complicated sentences. I don’t even want to begin with Ilsa, as others have said it feels like they just killed her off to make way for a new actress, switching them in like cards to play, Ilsa was competent smart and a good foil, Ilsa is just a thief with little skills, feels almost like Tom just making way for his then-gf Hayley to get all the spotlight and needing an excuse to kill Ilsa, felt shameless. Especially when every woman in the movie swooned over him and every person randomly trusting him cuz his innate goodness
Ethan as he always does tries to save everyone so is protecting both-first telling Ilsa to 'get away as far as you can' at the meeting then running to bridge and it's implied he would have made it in tiime. Unfortunately the Entity manipulates him into the ambush and it's implied it manipulated Ilsa into traveling to the bridge ['You can't save [Grace] Ethan...but you can Ilsa].
Atwell was their original choice for Ilsa. They imply that heavily in the 5th movie’s commentary and interviews. I guess TC had wet dreams about her. So as soon as she was let go from Marvel they shoved her in in expense of a far superior and more authentic Furguson’s character. She annoyed me. She was too movie-ish, silly, and cuffed Ethan for certain death in the subway. The way he miraculously didn’t die from a train impact is silly too. This movie is just poorly written. I’m disappointed. They gotta stop with the improv shit.
It had Tom's rawest moment since Jerry Maguire: Ethan: I promise you I will value your life more than my own. Grace: You do not even know me. Ethan: Why does that matter?
It rocked so hard. Definitely feel like Tom and McQ took a bet that they could make a movie that’s light on plot/heavy on action and style that would outperform some recent action franchises that make big waves despite being rather hollow
I think Mason in confusing something being shot on digital with the look that comping in VFX elements can have. A lot of what felt wrong in this movie is just that none of these people were ever int he same room. It was infuriating to watch - they did the same camera spin between characters like 100 times to try hide it. Wish they had held off shooting this especially because of how good Fallout looked.
14:58 I think the series has moved beyond that now given we've had Michelle Monaghan and Rebecca Ferguson appear in 3 films each [although Monaghan's second was a cameo] and generally the series has had far more continuity with it's in recent entries. They did try to get some cast members to return but it fell through [Thandiwe Newton didn't enjoy working on MI2 so didn't want to return, Maggie Q was asked back for 4+5 but wasn't free either time, Jeremy Renner was busy with Avengers for Fallout]. Even James Bond which always changed the female lead each film brought back Lea Seydoux for a second outing with NTTD.
I’m a stickler for details in serialized story telling; I disliked the retconning approach in this movie. I did “like” the movie, and am looking forward to the next one, but I do like when writers can stick to rules and past events of a movie franchise. Throwing in how Ethan is framed for murder, and that’s what got him into the IMF felt cheap to me. And, we had already seen in previous movies that the IMF has a “director” of sorts (ie: MI3, 4, and 5) that communicates with and answers to government, so the scenes where no one in gov knows about the IMF were kinda dumb. I’ve enjoyed how MI 4, 5, and 6 had been serialized and fed off each other, with call backs and use of character that built relationships over the course of the movies; this one, although still beginning with most of the characters from those earlier films, just feels off. However, right from the beginning, I was having MI 1 vibes, and too be honest, I did enjoy that.
@goodial yeah man Why did they add so much CGI to train engine crash The BTS video of train crash looks so good It feels like this movie needed a better editor, some scenes just abruptly transition
@@vishalthefirst4140IKR!!! I was so excited for the train crash because its classic Buster Keaton type of awesomeness. They crashed it in water too but for some reason they needed some CGI river-effects and all this random stuff, they did this in the skydive sequence too covering stuff up with CGI. I hate that movies feel the need to do this, ‘polish’ something up and making it look fake. Whats the fucking point anymore, now the audiences cant tell if its real at all, maybe they were frustrated that they couldnt film in poland so they had to cgi a bunch of stuff since the crash scene was filmed on some half-bridge quarry in england and they needed to make it look like a real river??? I mean just let it crash like Back To The Future 3, and let us see it too and not edit it so quick, why is this sooo hard
@GuineaPigEveryday agreed, they should've left the cut as is like in back to the future 3. It was really frustrating that the movie looked like it was filmed using a snapchat filter in many scenes. And the scene with Ethan running on top of the airport had so much dramatic music that I thought it was going to lead to something but it just cuts off.
I hope they release that 30 minute de-aging scene on the Blu-ray. I’m so happy that they just used snips of it, and left it out of the film overall. But it would be cool to see that scene in completion how the director described it!
So incredibly, this film was shot on the same Sony cameras as Maverick. Typically when you’re seeing that “digital look”is actually the DP cranking the shutter speed to 360 (which they love to do for night/dark scenes) AND on top of that, IMAX didn’t do their magic fairy dust thing processing this film. This was the DP’s first film as main DP and they digitally smoothed a lot of actors faces. So the movie looks noooot as good because of it.
Watching the film I would’ve liked the prologue with the submarine not to have been included. So that there was more mystery surrounding what the Entity was. Then I read a couple of days after seeing the film, that the studio requested that scene, which was shot for the second part to be included. And I realized why it didn’t fit.
Honestly I think the perfect opening would've been just starting straight off with the government meeting scene. Were thrown into this crisis in progress head first, and the first time we see Ethan is this cool mask reveal. I think the whole bit with him getting the mission and the sequence in the desert isn't necessary and kinda just adds even more padding to the beginning before the movie properly starts on top of the submarine scene
@@frezling2442eah the desert mission is a cool idea on paper (Lawrence of Arabia imagery all-round) but just a bit lame in actuality, idk it felt a bit clunky with the shooting and her eyepatch sniping, felt a bit rushed, also because its some random cgi town in the desert and it feels a bit fake. Idk, like i’d love to see that sort of action in a North African or Middle Eastern medina/old city or something, like more urban action rather than out in the open. Felt a bit like a Battlefield video game map. I was a bit worried at that point about the movie tbf
@@GuineaPigEverydayalso annoying and weird because of how it had no emotion or stakes. We’re just thrown into it 5 minutes in and I just domt care. Felt very bland
It's surprising how often the characters still used technology that was connected to the internet after knowing all about the entity and what it can do
Initially I don't think they knew the Entity was directly targeting them. Up until the airport scene, I don't think they even know they're up against a rogue AI. They're just trying to get a key. They only pieced it together that the Entity is actively trying to stop Ethan after they ID'd Gabriel.
My favorite easter egg was the picture of Angela Bassett hanging on the director's wall. Which implies she is the current US president and makes her the second president that was formerly the director of the CIA.
And if everyone noticed the train scene similarities to Uncharted 2, surely you also noticed the desert scene similarity to Uncharted 3? I was having serious video game deja vu through this movie.
The car chase was also just the Citroen 2cv chase from 'For your eyes only' smashed together with the bike chase (handcuffed) from 'Tomorrow never dies'. It's like they had no original idea's in this entire movie.
Just rewatched the first one, emilio(jack) didnt take the elevator spike to his brain. Mason, you're on to something. Also love the subtle hints toward the new team, paris, grace, and degas for when stop cruise stops attempting suicidal every movie
They have an issue here where they have created a villain, The Entity, that is at once all-powerful and all knowing, and yet must be stupid to not have already won. If the key is destroyed or the only man who knows what the key does dies, then the entity cannot be controlled or destroyed. It banks on Tom Cruise being unable to control himself and killing the agent so that they lose that knowledge. And yet, despite the fact that it controls every computer on earth, it doesn't think to destroy Hayley Atwell's plane in mid air by controlling, like, a naval anti-aircraft cannon? We've already seen that it can control vehicle weapons systems and completely disguise the target, there's no way this thing would not have the power to kill anyone in any area with technology by hi-jacking military tech.
The AI being active and self aware is such a can of worms. In my opinion it should've been inactive and everyone was trying to get the keys to find and access it, the fact it's active adds very little throughout the movie and kind of denigrates the value of Gabriel as a character with any agency
@@frezling2442 Maybe pt 1 they fight for the keys to activate it, pt 2 it's been activated and they need to destroy it. Also could have served up Ethan an L at the end of pt 1 that way to make a more suspenseful cliffhanger.
James is pretty much spot on (at least in the way I feel) about Tom Cruise. Weird lunatic IRL, but his charisma, dedication, and the things he is willing to do for cinema is makes him quite endearing. He also doesn't be romancing ladies on screen anymore.
I admire him so much as an actor, but yeah a real lunatic outside of that. Although he seems very nice and great in interviews (that’s how they get you I guess)
He doesn’t romance ladies? This movie felt like every woman was just swooning over him endlessly tbh, even Paris just sacrificed her life almost just becuz Ethan showed mercy
When I saw the movie, the theater I was in had a dim flickering projector. It ruined the whole experience for me, it was like they were running the film past a candle in a drafty room. I could not focus at all on the movie. If I had gone alone I would have walked out in the first 10 minutes. During the big confrontation at the club, the screen went black for 20 seconds. I was like " can we please get a refund?!"
I walked into the movie wondering after 6 instalments what could they do to surprise me and I came pleasantly surprised familiar troups like face masks, tom cruise running still got me captivated and they put them into places that created a lot action and visual gags a different style of making action funny than Jackie Chan
The train scene has to go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest set piece ever put to screen. It felt like my whole audience couldn’t breathe as they were trying to climb each falling train car
I was actually pretty disappointed in this movie. Outside of the train sequence there was nothing we haven't seen before and done better in the previous movies. This didn't even compare to Rogue Nation or Fallout in my opinion. Was it worth the months and months of training and spending millions of dollars for a 5 second jump of a cliff with a motorcycle? I'm not so sure. I absolutely hated the Grace character. She screws over Ethan at least 5 times and leaves him to die at one point and he keeps helping her. There was just too many dumb things in this movie. To keep one of the most dangerous devices on the planet safe, everyone just puts it in their pocket. How dumb are they? How did Ethan get into a moving train and time it perfectly to hit 2 bad guys? So stupid. I think this franchise peaked with Fallout and hope they end it with Dead Reckoning Part 2. Go out while you are still on top. If they do decide to keep going I want them change it up and get a new director and different style. Go back to the one and done directors like the first 4 movies. I don't think any director should stay on one franchise too long.
The levels of prediction took me right out the movie. It’s so ridiculously precise! The key being dropped at his feet specifically….that’s stuuuupid! Pretty good movie though. Rebecca Ferguson isn’t my wife in this timeline….Hayley Atwell isn’t my wife in this timeline…
The "suitcase nuke" is a much overused trope. Yes, there were experiments in making a portable nuke. They were about the size of a shipping trunk, and because they could only contain a small amount of radioactive material they rapidly decayed into uselessness. Certainly something that one person can carry around without being noticed is nonsense.
I'll be 100% honest, I didn't think, in 2023, I'd be hearing a goatse reference in a YT video. Haha. Thank you for the laugh. Additionally, for those too young to remember, please God, don't look it up.
They didn't film the de-aging scenes. McQ said that the distraction was part of the decision and the other half was the number he got of what it would have cost. It was simply too expensive. They will be a flashback to not in that way and extent
I'm feeling like Shea Whighan is playing the brother to Emilio Estevez's MI:I charcter. In Dead Reckoning, there is clearly something from the past that keeps Briggs from trusting Hunt. At the same time, he doesn't want to kill him.
Bobby with that tool is back. I dug it a lot but i'm hard pressed to think this needed to be 2 parts ,the action was great though especially that last sequence on the train. My only complaints is that, I like the entity, it's a cool idea applied in a cool way especially with the whole they need to go back to analogue to fight it,Esai Morales fell kinda flat for me, also the cliffhanger was kinda weak Also I had a small nitpick with the plot, that I suppose a quick throwaway line explained and I missed it or the 2nd part will address but I couldn't follow exactly why Gabriel needed the key, shouldn't he want to destroy it?
Let me guess... America thinks that Ethan is the villain, because while it was a hoax last time and last last time and last last last time and last last last last time and last last last last last time and last last last last last last time, THIS TIME I'm sure he's a traitor! There IS a traitor, BUT IT'S NOT ETHAN HUNT! It's a different former IMF agent, who is now an arms dealer, who has a weapon they're trying to sell
I would also compare this to the first MI, which had a shocking and mysterious opening followed by constant tension until the reveal at the end. In DR you get a bland origins story prologue of the main villain, followed by a literal 15 min exposition to make sure every person watching knows exactly whats going to happen in the movie. From that point on nothing really occurs plot wise, its just lots of shoe-horned action set pieces.
I still think Rogue Nation is the best movie in the franchise. I'll never understand this obsession with Fallout. Even though I think it's a great movie, it's not the greatest thing ever made
I agree! While the action is incredible in Fallout, I think that Rogue Nation feels much more like a good combination between action set pieces and a good story, when the story in Fallout is more of an afterthought ...
I would love to see this movie in one of those D-Box theaters, that car chase in Rome would just be so exhilarating and fun, it would be just like a roller coaster
That cut right after the candle hallway run, it made me think it cut to the Prague run in Mission: Impossible, I thought some car was going to blow up mirroing the first movie, he had the same clothes and similar enough hair to fool me.
So the villain reveal happens in the first 5mins, then we have a skeleton in the closet as a puppet for the remainder with the AI looming over the film. Lots of great shots, great character scenes and some really gripping action that doesn’t over use cgi so you’re not being thrown out of it.
I think the purpose of the bomb was to get audio samples of Benji’s voice for later when the AI tricks Ethan by hacking their comms.
I hate that I didn't put that together until you said it. Like I knew that's what the bomb was doing, but didn't recognize that it put them to use in that scene
ooooh!! that makes sense!! I feel silly now because I've seen the movie twice but didn't piece that together lol
It's like metal gear
@@ryanmadej6694nanomachines son
While reading this I said aloud, "Yup. Yup. Yup!" Of course, that's what it is. There are a couple of loose threads in this "Part", and I think you've solved this one.
I fully believe that Ilsa is still alive and I think there are several clues that point to this. Her first scene was her and Ethan faking her death. Later in the group meeting they talked about needing to think like an AI in order to outsmart it but they don't tell us the plan. Then after it was revealed that one of the girls needs to die, Ilsa and Ethan exchange a look and she smiles. Also Ilsa "dies" on a bridge which could be a reference to Jon Voight faking his death on bridge in the first film. Now that the entity thinks Ilsa dead she can more effectively help Ethan work against it. It's also worth noting that the knife she was stabbed with was her own.
You just blew my mind.
I have a hard time believing that a professional of Gabriel's caliber could be fooled up close by someone who just stuck a knife into.
@@andrewwebster4348Paris also survived a knife to the chest
also they specifically say before that, that they can’t trust anything outside of this room
@@andrewwebster4348 in ghost protocol Ethan revealed to Brandt that he had faked Julia's death as well so I think hes pretty good at it at this point. Of course its possible shes really dead, but I refuse to believe they would do Ilsa that dirty after Tom had them cut the kiss st the end of GP because he thought it would undermine her character.
Dead reckoning part one more like Dead Reckoning Part Fun
Got'em
Dead Reckoning Part Fun more like Fun Reckoning Part Fun
Pfft.
More like dead reckoning part good(does it always have to rhyme?) 😜
This guy gets it ^^
Once again we see Shea Whigham play an authority figure unable to catch and arrest his prime suspect. He also did this in Joker and Beyond the Spiderverse.
I was wondering why his character felt so familiar!
Agent Carter season 1 as well
Hollywood casting has a way to come around!
Don't forget the garbage that was the live action version of Death Note on Netflix.
Am I the only one that just realized this guy and Gary Sinise are not the same guy?
Why is it that James and Mason are so fun to listen to? It’s rare to find a podcast where, no matter what they talk about, I’m in. They could talk about how to make a bologna sandwich… and I’d be all ears.
Natural chemistry and they don’t force humour so it doesn’t get grating i guess
Because they are real friends I would wager. Much like their sometimes collaborators @ComicPop
Said this months ago. They ALWAYS put me in a good mood. It's magical🫠
Fr, I've never encountered such natural chemistry and awesome banter. Can't count the number of times I burst out laughing during the podcasts
That’s why I love the movie commentaries. Just long form random James and Maso hilarious conversations
I love that we had no idea who the main villain was. The entity is so unsettling and I love the sound it makes. I need Part 2 now! Although it may get delayed by the strikes.
Didn't they filmed it already? From what I know this movie was filmed in 2020
@@antonioc.5778Yup, part 2 is pretty much already done
we get part2 in 2025 I guess
It's indefinitely delayed at the current moment
@@mrevilduckyhow? The movie is done. Just needs edited
I think this is performing well because of not only Fallout, but also Top Gun Maverick. People are out for Tom Cruise more than the series it seems.
agreed
That's the idea, Tom Cruise represents the last of the action stars. People used to go to the cinema to watch Schwarzenegger, Travolta, Van Dame, Willis, etc. Not to watch Terminator or Predator or whatever
Yes, the series generally is not a box office monster. Any improvement in performance from previous films is the result of people knowing what they will get with a Tom Cruise movie.
I took my girlfriend to see this as her first mission impossible film. All she knew going in was that there are sometimes masks. The look of confusion on her face throughout the movie was priceless. She said she’d see the next one
you have to make her watch fallout, the best all out action movie ever imo
@@rangerboyvlogs9716 John Wick 4 tho
@@yawns3004 - On the plus side, there are a lot of amazing action films waiting for you to watch them.
@@yawns3004 John Wick appears in the next mission impossible movie
This was also my GF's first MI film. She will not be returning. lol
the only problem I had with this movie was how they treated Ilsa, it seemed like they threw away the arc that her and ethan had been building for the past 2 movies in favor of grace. I thought grace was great but I just wished they treated Ilsa better. Overall 9/10
I dont think she's really dead
@@QwkDrw84 I agree
Me too she was just discarded in favor of the new favorite thief
@@Kar1s3n yea, they had originally planned to shoot in Austria and blow up a real hitsorical bridge, but with covid delays the local community there was able to stop them. That's why they had to shoot the train sequence elsewhere.
Same here. As much I liked Grace and thought she was a great new addition, I felt like Ilsa was treated poorly in the film. She was such a badass, nuanced character.
Hayley Atwell was great in this. I always really enjoy watching her, because she always looks like she's having a blast.
The hint of a smile she had the entire first part of the movie felt genuine, and it was great that her character was closer to a normal person than a spy.
She needs her own action spy franchise. She was great as Agent Carter, and I'd love to see more of that, or even something simple completely different.
She is stunning
She's so captivating on screen. Loved her chemistry with Tom Cruise.
She used to be a dude -- right? ;)
Her characters was terrible lmao
I thought she looked better in this than in captain america and that was 10 years ago
The 2 things I took away from this movie was "key" and "entity". Jokes aside i had a great time
Lol yeah. Seeing the key in the first trailer, I was not prepared for how important it would be 😂
My favorite part was every 20 minutes they would look at the camera and say "this is part 1. We are doing this mission in part 1 and then this separate mission in part 2"
i loved when tom cruise said it's mission impossible - dead reckoning: part one-ing time and then proceeded to mission impossible - dead reckoning: part one all over the place
Actually pretty fun and interesting fact about the production of this film: due to the initial scene taking place onboard a submarine under some blue ice the film was given the working title of “Blue Harvest”
Nice one!
Blue harvest?
@haroldnecmann7040 it's an interesting coincidence because it was also the writing title for the first Star Wars movie
Well done.
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The god-like AI that can do anything...doesn't really do much. Faking Benji's voice was good, but more of that please. Benji rides in a self driving car, I was shocked that the AI didn't take the car over. I would've loved to see the AI control a drone army, or edit security footage to frame the IMF boys for a crime. But why do that when you can have Mantis attack Tom Cruise with a lead pipe.
I also throught for sure the AI was going to take control of the car since the car loudly announced "SELF DRIVING MODE ACTIVATED." The Entity didn't really do anything to try and stop the train heist while it was happening. The Entity could've driven Benji off the cliff as a way to stop Ethan from getting to the train. However, I think they didn't do that since it was a BMW product placement, and BMW probably didn't want them to show one of their cars being hacked into and killing it's driver.
That is a very good point about the self driving car. I feel like that was maybe in an earlier draft or something. Why introduce that and then not use it?
Thinking about this more: if there was a cut scene in which the entity took control of the self-driving car, that would explain why Benji shouted "I am having a very stressful day!" When he was in the car. I thought that line was weird because nothing really happened to him, at least as compared to the stress the other characters were under. I would bet a lot of money there used to be a scene in which he had a stressful battle with the entity controlled car.
It feels like it only comes in when it's convenient to add an obstacle like "the satellites are down!" And does almost nothing else. Them needing to go analog at the end doesn't meaningfully disrupt their operation. Benji uses self driving mode on his car for christ's sake, that wasn't something the AI could hack?
As soon as it said it was Activating Self Driving mode, I was sure the car was going to try to kill him, but nothing happened.
I didn't want Grace to die but Justice for Ilsa.
the fact that her character had so little to do besides being killed off makes me think she’s not really dead and she will play a crucial role in defeating the entity
I don't think she's dead either. Taking everyone off the board seems like the best way to counter Project 2501, I mean The Entity. Seriously though, I love that they've incorporated the The Puppetmaster plot from Ghost in the Shell into the M:I Franchise, as a metaphor for the threat of AI being handed the reigns of human stories.
I hope she’s not dead. I didn’t really like graces character, because all she did before she joined up was consistently betray Ethan, so I didnt get why they wanted her on board.
And something about the way it was like “okay that one’s dead, now this one is in” - and didn’t mention her death for the entire rest of the movie - felt slightly gross
Ilsa was too badass to stay alive
@@ribby9069 There's that line where Grace says, "She died because of me," and Luther (almost correcting her) says, "You're alive because of her." The IMF team is all about rejecting binary choices. They are the embodiment of a third option. Ethan is going to protect everyone. In that way, he's the anti-Bond.
I think Grace is a good addition. The real test of her character was posing as the white widow, getting everything she wanted from Kittredge, and then rejecting it because she understood what was at stake. Then she lifts both keys. That was a high wire act without a net.
Just seen it today. As a fan of Mission Impossible I went in with high expectations, but left the cinema with the unshakeable feeling that Eagle Eye did the whole "AI-gone-rogue" plot justice and is in my opinion the better film of the two - despite being 15 years old at this point.
It's a combination of the plot holes, clichés, almost endless exposition, and some fight scenes which needed better choreography. It's also a shame to have had almost all of the biggest stunts spoiled by the trailers.
It tried so hard to be skynet without understanding what made Arnie and the t-1000 terrifying. I’m also a fan of the series and I thought this one was one of the weakest in the series. Many decisions made about the direction the story took and certain characters left me confused and frustrated. I’m glad others were able to enjoy it, but man this one didn’t sit well with me at all
I disagree with your assessment
The cliches, the retcons, and the fact it was 3 hours of mostly exposition as just a part 1 that killed it for me. The Pom Klementieff cliche of bloodthirsty psychopath to good guy in 5 minutes was so ridiculous.
@@treytison1444 "The cliches"
- Can you elaborate on that? What cliche are you talking about?
"the retcons"
- The retcon was forced for sure but it wasn't really terrible.
"the fact it was 3 hours of mostly exposition as just a part 1 that killed it for me."
- There's only 30 minutes of exposition and most of them are pretty good until it got repetitive on the train.
"The Pom Klementieff cliche of bloodthirsty psychopath to good guy in 5 minutes was so ridiculous."
- She is more of a bloodthirsty maniac rather than a psychopath. And you just forgot that Ethan literally spared her life.
@@ThePowerscalingCinephilecliche of Grace being stupid for no reason and not learning from her mistakes 3 times now? Why run away from the one person saving ur life at every turn? Retcon is how they introduced 2 new characters that’s “been apart of his past” that the audience has never seen once. It’s not the worst but should be better. The exposition was fine but annoying cause the audience already knew about the submarine and what it unlocks so we’re just spending 3 hours watching the characters playing catch up. Ethan sparing her life is cool but that’s the ONLY thing the ai couldn’t predict? Also anyone can see that last minute save coming.
I felt like the total comedic lift in this movie was done by the two FBI agents who after deciding 'lets not gun down one of our own in a firefight afterall' They became like Spike the bulldog in Tom and Jerry 😂
26:47 "...which was originally for their ... silent running drive?"
"yeah something like that"
IT WAS FOR DEAD RECKONING NAVIGATION IT'S DEAD RECKONING THEY SAY IT IN THE SCNENE
It's not, dead reckoning means driving basically by eye without any tech
@@jwebbnature I know what Dead Reckoning means 😌
@@jwebbnature Wrong. It means navigating by only using position, vector and time, which the AI allows them to do easily, which allows them to perpetually run silently.
Missed opportunity for one of the boys to ask the other “What do you Dead Reckon about this movie?”
THANK YOU
Wow! You should write for Big Bang Theory season 14!
Such a great movie. Tom crusise running at 61 is absolutely fricken insane cant wait for part 2
Mission Impossible age of ultron was a blast
You left this comment twice but it was funny both times
You combined 2 different movies in one thing!
That's the name of the movie!
the very beginning of the cliff stunt was pretty cool. you could tell by the look of Tom's face at the beginning of the stunt that he was shitting his pants a bit which brought that realism on the theatre screen
He shot it like 8 times lmao doubt he was shitting himself
@@soullessmoriarty Or he brought some extra pants with for the retries.
Also the woman who helps him is named Grace. Also the first movie has the Bible as a major plot point. Also the bad guys in the last one were the Apostles.
What is your native language? Do you know how to write in that one?
The key is literally a crucifix
The movie is fun, enjoyable, and all. But not the movie of the year or whatever. There are things that I feel they could have it done better.
1. Story - we've seen this plot hundred times before. Predictable. Big exposition dumps earlier on. I was under the impression that this movie would go deeper on Ethan's personal life and he would face a big dilemma. The movie does touch that part but only on the surface. Ethan barely contemplates on his choices. By the beginning of the third act, he moves on and you don't really feel that rage and sadness from coming him after what happened to IIsa.
2. Comedic timing - this bugged me a lot. I felt like I was watching a Marvel movie at some points. Really unnecessary during certain action scenes.
3. Length - you can feel the movie is dragged too long. Some scenes take a long time to complete just for them to back to square one.
3. Ilsa Faust - I hate how the movie handles her character just for a new character to shine.
Okay maybe I should add some positive. Adding Hayley Atwell and Pom Klementieff into the movie that already has Rebecca Ferguson and Venessa Kirby is a big flex. At one point, all 4 of them are in the same scene. Loved it.
Agree with most of your points except I enjoyed the comedic interplay between Grace & Ethan during the chase scenes. I felt Dungeons & Dragons suffered more from a "Marvelization" aspect.
So part 7 or 9 or whatever of this tired old dog is NOT the best movie... weird..
@@youtubegarbage7876 wow ok. Its not Fast & Furious, and yeah its sequels, then again everything is sequels and remakes now its possible that one franchise might actually stand out for upping themselves with each movie and trying to be creative and take risks like Tom and McQuarry are doing. Ever heard of James Bond?
@@tomlewis4205true, comedy is a big part of these new Mission Impossible movies, i mean its like how comedy plays into Roger Moore Bond movies, its not Marvelization if its something that Ghost Protocol already was doing
Ilsa was done dirty. She got sidelined then got fridged to make way for the new gal. Out of all of Ethan's past and present associates, she's by far the most capable. I would have much preferred if Ethan died to save the world and she lives to carry on the franchise. 😒
#JusticeForIlsa
Agreed!
You know damn well Ethan wasn't gonna die in this
she wasn't British enough. had to be replaced with a new, even more british woman.
Pretty sure she's not dead and a plot twist on the second one makes her the baddie, not like they haven't done this kind of in every movie before.
She was, but it mostly felt like they just didn't know what to do with the character. She fit so well into the Solomon Lane era and the interplay with her and Ethan was great but never felt sustainable. I think it hurts because of the fakeout and, let's be honest, how absolutely incredible and enchanting Hayley Atwell is, but it's hardly the first time someone died in this series. Now if they ever kill Luther....I'll never forgive them.
The car chase scene was so good. One of the best ever.
Hmmm...car go fast...me like...
You doorknob
@@SYLRMHA maybe I keep it generic to not reveal too much. The hell is wrong with you..
I found it funny that they went down the same steps as Dom in Fast X
How can you tell the difference between car chases? They are as predictable as sports games. How many apple stands did they run over as a guy jumped out of the way at th elast second?
@@Iwillone Wow! Part 10 of one crap movie and part whatever of this fart burp fart derp derp derp.
No comments on Paris is criminal.
Best female action villain for pure screen energy in a good while.
She might make a comeback considering she is still in the cast list of the next movie
@Julianjulesr1361and Grace
Her scenes were the only ones that interested me.
@@Metallic-SunPom Klementieff has an absolute screen presence. Loved her performance even if her character was underwritten and had a weird arc, her facial expressions are great and hilarious
She reminds me of Xenia Onatopp - Goldeneye (or Fatima Blush - Never Say Never Again) in the sort of awesome insane somewhat masochistic female henchman, who is just wack and chews the scenery. Pom had a wonderful screen presence, her facial expressions really sell her character cutting back to her in the chase scene, she’s great at action choreography too.
I think the airport hijinks in Dead Reckognizing was superb. Haley Atwell is a great addition to the team and I don’t think I knew she was going to be in this until the day of.
The parachute crash part is supposed to be an example of Ethan Hunt being a force or chaos. Accidentally killing the right guy and being in the right car royally screwed with the Entity's plan, and was an astronomically low probability event.
My bet is in part 2 its going to be a combo of more random / "impossible" events and characters acting out of character that will defeat the Entity. And by out of character, I mean people will be make unexpected choices, maybe inventing 3rd options.
Maybe they'll have to eat chapstick or spray hand sanitizer in their eyes to confuse the AI.
Nothing can top Limp Bizkit MI theme. It was inversely proportional to how bad the movie was.
I thought you were talking about a Limp Buzkit cover of the Wii sports theme or smth
All joking aside, I do think MI:2 has a more complete script and more effective villain. Despite the cheesiness, MI: 2 is a better, more complete film.
Dead Reckoning part 1 had some of the worst writting in the series.
Was very let down.
Outside of every other theme, ever.
@@mikemccroskery6649 - You may be alone in this and that's okay.
@@RobVespa I'm certainly not alone in thinking that the writing in DR was utter trash. Fast and Furious level cringe, but you go ahead and keep making excuses for the sloppy writing if you enjoy mediocrity on that level.
I totally agree about the bike jump off the mountain. It had no impact at all to me because they've shown us that scene and the behind the scenes footage 100 times before the movie released. You could see where they digitally edited out the ramp in the movie and that broke the immersion.
How can ANYTHING in these kind of dumb movies have an impact?
@@youtubegarbage7876 ???? How can any stunt have an impact? Is that ur question?
Thing is these stunts that they always promote are usually the least impressive because its hard to grasp any scale, its like the skydiving sequence in Fallout, obscured by CGI and mist and so it starts looking fake. Same with the train crash here was obscured with CGI. Thing is the motorcycle jump is so far away, riding across CGI grass when we know the entire layout of the actual stunt from videos, and then just some distant black blot that is him diving down when it could just be CGI. The stunts that really work are up-close and with his face, like him piloting a helicopter, him actually fighting people, him on a train
The first mission impossible movie I’ve ever properly watched in full. The first act was phenomenal, 8-9/10. Loved the airport and the chemistry between Grace and Ethan. Also loved Ethan as a character, as he was clearly defined and shown as admirable. However, the plot became convoluted towards the end and dragged it down to a 6.5-7/10 overall. The villain was bland, but still intriguing and had one or two great moments. The characters were the main thing going for it, most having decent depth, but still had no need for some moments like the train sequence with Grace continuously being scared. It built Ethan and her’s relationship but didn’t feel impactful and dragged for far too long, adding half an hour more to the movie than necessary.
But the humour was great (especially the car scene) and felt very real and natural at times, no doubt because of Tom Cruise and Hayley Atwell’s dynamic.
Not really sure what happened after Fallout, it was far better written and had a level of maturity which Dead Reckoning lacked. I think 3, Ghost Protocol and Fallout were better, more memorable movies.
Some parts of Dead Reckoning were just straight up juvenile. The sword fight between Ilsa and Gabriel, etc. I didn’t expect to be disappointed.
Same here. I came in ready to be just intrigued and ready to watch a good movie but this story was dogshit. Final set piece was really good but that’s about it. It seems the movie was padding for time until that train scene
When this movie was shot, Tom Cruise was 59, 6 years younger than Harrison Ford was when he shot Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (65).
Fun fact: after the movie was shot, Tom Cruise still is 6 years younger than harrison ford, he promises that he will mantain that...
I liked the call-backs from this one. The magic tricks from the first and the train sequence. The Venice scene where Ethan’s running also felt John woo esque. Really solid
The red light green light on the Venice bridge and Kittridge asking Hunt if he’s upset we’re among my favourites.
The Venice sequence felt a lot like the opening Prague sequence from MI:1. But the sleight of hand was a lot of fun. I want a behind the scenes thing that shows that tom learned how to do that for real. It would impress me more than the stunts this time around.
@@gelfie2208 yeah I think it’s more like the Prague scene now that I’m thinking about it! It’s the desperation, the dirty cobbled street, the cinematography. I think it would need a bit more slo-no and pigeons to be John Woo haha
I think that Ethan being unable to choose between Hailey Atwell, whom he's just met and tried to ditch him several times, and Ilsa is silly. They wrote Grace into the plot but there is not chemistry, and no good reason for her to become so prominent. Bring Ilsa back. Also the exposition dialogue at the Pentagon at the start with actors performing a line relay looked really contrived. Last MI was definitely much better.
Absolutely agreed. This movie’s action sequences were nice but broken up by such clunky exposition. I like the way u put it becuz other ppl go to the other extreme of the film being trash. I still liked this movie but Fallout’s script was so tight, the action sequences were so well choreographed and also stripped down to essentials. This movie felt like it was just waiting for an action scene to start because it couldn’t handle dialogue, Fallout had a better synergy between it, it felt like the action carried and served the plot, here the plot just services one action scene to another. Also the stakes, the stakes are so important to set up clearly, here its just a vague AI and bureaucrats talking in vague endless complicated sentences.
I don’t even want to begin with Ilsa, as others have said it feels like they just killed her off to make way for a new actress, switching them in like cards to play, Ilsa was competent smart and a good foil, Ilsa is just a thief with little skills, feels almost like Tom just making way for his then-gf Hayley to get all the spotlight and needing an excuse to kill Ilsa, felt shameless. Especially when every woman in the movie swooned over him and every person randomly trusting him cuz his innate goodness
Ethan as he always does tries to save everyone so is protecting both-first telling Ilsa to 'get away as far as you can' at the meeting then running to bridge and it's implied he would have made it in tiime. Unfortunately the Entity manipulates him into the ambush and it's implied it manipulated Ilsa into traveling to the bridge ['You can't save [Grace] Ethan...but you can Ilsa].
Atwell was their original choice for Ilsa. They imply that heavily in the 5th movie’s commentary and interviews. I guess TC had wet dreams about her. So as soon as she was let go from Marvel they shoved her in in expense of a far superior and more authentic Furguson’s character. She annoyed me. She was too movie-ish, silly, and cuffed Ethan for certain death in the subway. The way he miraculously didn’t die from a train impact is silly too. This movie is just poorly written. I’m disappointed. They gotta stop with the improv shit.
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Kind of hoping that Ilsa’s death is a fake out to trick the entity
It had Tom's rawest moment since Jerry Maguire:
Ethan: I promise you I will value your life more than my own.
Grace: You do not even know me.
Ethan: Why does that matter?
Hayley welling up but not actually shedding a tear… good stuff.
It rocked so hard. Definitely feel like Tom and McQ took a bet that they could make a movie that’s light on plot/heavy on action and style that would outperform some recent action franchises that make big waves despite being rather hollow
And my mom also wrote down Shea Wigham’s quote in the theater lol
Hilarious metal gear solid is mentioned because that is all I thought about during the desert scene..that was the phantom pain in real life
I bet the ai turns out to have started out as the computer used to paint out Henry Cavill’s tache. And the shame has turned it evil.
The first real mask in this movie was spectacular. He looked like Duke Nukem and that man just had me buggin.
The best uncharted movie
and best Metal Gear movie. Gabriel is even dressed like Revolver Ocelot.
I think Mason in confusing something being shot on digital with the look that comping in VFX elements can have. A lot of what felt wrong in this movie is just that none of these people were ever int he same room. It was infuriating to watch - they did the same camera spin between characters like 100 times to try hide it. Wish they had held off shooting this especially because of how good Fallout looked.
14:58 I think the series has moved beyond that now given we've had Michelle Monaghan and Rebecca Ferguson appear in 3 films each [although Monaghan's second was a cameo] and generally the series has had far more continuity with it's in recent entries. They did try to get some cast members to return but it fell through [Thandiwe Newton didn't enjoy working on MI2 so didn't want to return, Maggie Q was asked back for 4+5 but wasn't free either time, Jeremy Renner was busy with Avengers for Fallout]. Even James Bond which always changed the female lead each film brought back Lea Seydoux for a second outing with NTTD.
I’m a stickler for details in serialized story telling; I disliked the retconning approach in this movie. I did “like” the movie, and am looking forward to the next one, but I do like when writers can stick to rules and past events of a movie franchise. Throwing in how Ethan is framed for murder, and that’s what got him into the IMF felt cheap to me. And, we had already seen in previous movies that the IMF has a “director” of sorts (ie: MI3, 4, and 5) that communicates with and answers to government, so the scenes where no one in gov knows about the IMF were kinda dumb.
I’ve enjoyed how MI 4, 5, and 6 had been serialized and fed off each other, with call backs and use of character that built relationships over the course of the movies; this one, although still beginning with most of the characters from those earlier films, just feels off. However, right from the beginning, I was having MI 1 vibes, and too be honest, I did enjoy that.
Killing off Ilsa and replacing her with Grace was a mistake IMHO.
Agree with Maso, The stunt that Tom Cruise did in real life looks so amazing on UA-cam but in the movie it looks so fake and uninteresting
agreed! also the crash of the locomotive is much cooler in the Behind the Scenes footage!
@goodial yeah man
Why did they add so much CGI to train engine crash
The BTS video of train crash looks so good
It feels like this movie needed a better editor, some scenes just abruptly transition
@@vishalthefirst4140IKR!!! I was so excited for the train crash because its classic Buster Keaton type of awesomeness. They crashed it in water too but for some reason they needed some CGI river-effects and all this random stuff, they did this in the skydive sequence too covering stuff up with CGI. I hate that movies feel the need to do this, ‘polish’ something up and making it look fake. Whats the fucking point anymore, now the audiences cant tell if its real at all, maybe they were frustrated that they couldnt film in poland so they had to cgi a bunch of stuff since the crash scene was filmed on some half-bridge quarry in england and they needed to make it look like a real river??? I mean just let it crash like Back To The Future 3, and let us see it too and not edit it so quick, why is this sooo hard
@GuineaPigEveryday agreed, they should've left the cut as is like in back to the future 3.
It was really frustrating that the movie looked like it was filmed using a snapchat filter in many scenes.
And the scene with Ethan running on top of the airport had so much dramatic music that I thought it was going to lead to something but it just cuts off.
I hope they release that 30 minute de-aging scene on the Blu-ray. I’m so happy that they just used snips of it, and left it out of the film overall.
But it would be cool to see that scene in completion how the director described it!
My ranking of all 7 movies:
1. Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation
2. Mission: Impossible - Fallout
3. Mission: Impossible
4. Mission: Impossible III
5. Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol
6. Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part 1
7. Mission: Impossible II
So incredibly, this film was shot on the same Sony cameras as Maverick. Typically when you’re seeing that “digital look”is actually the DP cranking the shutter speed to 360 (which they love to do for night/dark scenes) AND on top of that, IMAX didn’t do their magic fairy dust thing processing this film. This was the DP’s first film as main DP and they digitally smoothed a lot of actors faces. So the movie looks noooot as good because of it.
Watching the film I would’ve liked the prologue with the submarine not to have been included. So that there was more mystery surrounding what the Entity was. Then I read a couple of days after seeing the film, that the studio requested that scene, which was shot for the second part to be included. And I realized why it didn’t fit.
hmmm🤔 I think you might be onto something.
Honestly I think the perfect opening would've been just starting straight off with the government meeting scene. Were thrown into this crisis in progress head first, and the first time we see Ethan is this cool mask reveal.
I think the whole bit with him getting the mission and the sequence in the desert isn't necessary and kinda just adds even more padding to the beginning before the movie properly starts on top of the submarine scene
@@frezling2442eah the desert mission is a cool idea on paper (Lawrence of Arabia imagery all-round) but just a bit lame in actuality, idk it felt a bit clunky with the shooting and her eyepatch sniping, felt a bit rushed, also because its some random cgi town in the desert and it feels a bit fake. Idk, like i’d love to see that sort of action in a North African or Middle Eastern medina/old city or something, like more urban action rather than out in the open. Felt a bit like a Battlefield video game map. I was a bit worried at that point about the movie tbf
@@GuineaPigEverydayalso annoying and weird because of how it had no emotion or stakes. We’re just thrown into it 5 minutes in and I just domt care. Felt very bland
Friction is the superior version of the theme 😂
It's surprising how often the characters still used technology that was connected to the internet after knowing all about the entity and what it can do
Initially I don't think they knew the Entity was directly targeting them. Up until the airport scene, I don't think they even know they're up against a rogue AI. They're just trying to get a key. They only pieced it together that the Entity is actively trying to stop Ethan after they ID'd Gabriel.
My favorite easter egg was the picture of Angela Bassett hanging on the director's wall. Which implies she is the current US president and makes her the second president that was formerly the director of the CIA.
And if everyone noticed the train scene similarities to Uncharted 2, surely you also noticed the desert scene similarity to Uncharted 3? I was having serious video game deja vu through this movie.
Im glad someone else noticed too! I thought the exact same thing. They did a better uncharted movie than the actual movie 😂
The car chase was also just the Citroen 2cv chase from 'For your eyes only' smashed together with the bike chase (handcuffed) from 'Tomorrow never dies'. It's like they had no original idea's in this entire movie.
Just rewatched the first one, emilio(jack) didnt take the elevator spike to his brain. Mason, you're on to something. Also love the subtle hints toward the new team, paris, grace, and degas for when stop cruise stops attempting suicidal every movie
Let Kojima direct a Mission Impossible!
Will it be horrible as a film? Probably. But it will also be FASCINATING as a cultural object.
This movie was pretty incredible
I watched Edge of tomorrow after watching TG Maverick and I’m going to watch MISSION IMPOSSIBLE for that same reason
Thank you for this post. Bless this feed. Love you guys since 2016 ❤
They have an issue here where they have created a villain, The Entity, that is at once all-powerful and all knowing, and yet must be stupid to not have already won. If the key is destroyed or the only man who knows what the key does dies, then the entity cannot be controlled or destroyed. It banks on Tom Cruise being unable to control himself and killing the agent so that they lose that knowledge. And yet, despite the fact that it controls every computer on earth, it doesn't think to destroy Hayley Atwell's plane in mid air by controlling, like, a naval anti-aircraft cannon? We've already seen that it can control vehicle weapons systems and completely disguise the target, there's no way this thing would not have the power to kill anyone in any area with technology by hi-jacking military tech.
The AI being active and self aware is such a can of worms. In my opinion it should've been inactive and everyone was trying to get the keys to find and access it, the fact it's active adds very little throughout the movie and kind of denigrates the value of Gabriel as a character with any agency
@@frezling2442 Maybe pt 1 they fight for the keys to activate it, pt 2 it's been activated and they need to destroy it. Also could have served up Ethan an L at the end of pt 1 that way to make a more suspenseful cliffhanger.
James is pretty much spot on (at least in the way I feel) about Tom Cruise.
Weird lunatic IRL, but his charisma, dedication, and the things he is willing to do for cinema is makes him quite endearing.
He also doesn't be romancing ladies on screen anymore.
Why should he he looks great lol
I admire him so much as an actor, but yeah a real lunatic outside of that. Although he seems very nice and great in interviews (that’s how they get you I guess)
He doesn’t romance ladies? This movie felt like every woman was just swooning over him endlessly tbh, even Paris just sacrificed her life almost just becuz Ethan showed mercy
When I saw the movie, the theater I was in had a dim flickering projector. It ruined the whole experience for me, it was like they were running the film past a candle in a drafty room. I could not focus at all on the movie. If I had gone alone I would have walked out in the first 10 minutes. During the big confrontation at the club, the screen went black for 20 seconds. I was like " can we please get a refund?!"
On a long enough time scale everything becomes Metal Gear Solid.
I walked into the movie wondering after 6 instalments what could they do to surprise me and I came pleasantly surprised
familiar troups like face masks, tom cruise running still got me captivated and they put them into places that created a lot action and visual gags
a different style of making action funny than Jackie Chan
This is probably my favorite Mission: Impossible movie along with Ghost Protocol
The train scene has to go down as one of the greatest if not the greatest set piece ever put to screen. It felt like my whole audience couldn’t breathe as they were trying to climb each falling train car
I personally liked it cos it felt very cartoony as it kept going on 😂
I dont know what uncharted has done to me but all i think was "here we go, is uncharted 2 scene again"....
I am only watching this if Doug Walker is really in it. I will consider this the spiritual successor to Kickassia...
I just now realized Take a Look Around by Limb Bizkit is based on the Mission Impossible theme, actually mind blown right now
Still the worst lyrics ever
Instrumental is the only good thing about the song. Lyrics are the dumbest shit ever.
"Misa become death destroyer of worlds" is now something I want to watch
Fav MI Movies:
1. Rogue Nation
2. Fallout
3. MI:3
4. Ghost Protocol
5. Dead Reckoning Pt1
6. Mission: Impossible
7. MI: 2
I was actually pretty disappointed in this movie. Outside of the train sequence there was nothing we haven't seen before and done better in the previous movies. This didn't even compare to Rogue Nation or Fallout in my opinion. Was it worth the months and months of training and spending millions of dollars for a 5 second jump of a cliff with a motorcycle? I'm not so sure.
I absolutely hated the Grace character. She screws over Ethan at least 5 times and leaves him to die at one point and he keeps helping her. There was just too many dumb things in this movie. To keep one of the most dangerous devices on the planet safe, everyone just puts it in their pocket. How dumb are they? How did Ethan get into a moving train and time it perfectly to hit 2 bad guys? So stupid.
I think this franchise peaked with Fallout and hope they end it with Dead Reckoning Part 2. Go out while you are still on top. If they do decide to keep going I want them change it up and get a new director and different style. Go back to the one and done directors like the first 4 movies. I don't think any director should stay on one franchise too long.
yes agreed with grace, she kept on betraying him yet he still invited her for a choice
Please release the fifth element caravan of garbage!!
just walked out the cinema and all i can say right now is dutch angles galore!
and long movie. what a very long movie.
The levels of prediction took me right out the movie. It’s so ridiculously precise! The key being dropped at his feet specifically….that’s stuuuupid! Pretty good movie though. Rebecca Ferguson isn’t my wife in this timeline….Hayley Atwell isn’t my wife in this timeline…
I love this movie it’s really awesome and badass
I've already saw the review because I'm subscribed to BigSandwich thing. I'm lying, I'm not
Since F9 had spacetravel in it, the next obvious step is time travel. At least if you follow the sharknado formula. Also marvel
The "suitcase nuke" is a much overused trope.
Yes, there were experiments in making a portable nuke. They were about the size of a shipping trunk, and because they could only contain a small amount of radioactive material they rapidly decayed into uselessness.
Certainly something that one person can carry around without being noticed is nonsense.
I'll be 100% honest, I didn't think, in 2023, I'd be hearing a goatse reference in a YT video. Haha. Thank you for the laugh. Additionally, for those too young to remember, please God, don't look it up.
They didn't film the de-aging scenes. McQ said that the distraction was part of the decision and the other half was the number he got of what it would have cost. It was simply too expensive. They will be a flashback to not in that way and extent
30:22 is absolutely right!!!! He sleeps in the coffin thing with the mask on, when they show him get up at the train scene.
I'm feeling like Shea Whighan is playing the brother to Emilio Estevez's MI:I charcter. In Dead Reckoning, there is clearly something from the past that keeps Briggs from trusting Hunt. At the same time, he doesn't want to kill him.
I finally got around to watching this one. Theyre absolutely right with the metal gear parallels, and I fucking love it.
I've already seen this film twice in the theaters... and truth is... I'd watch it a 3rd time. It's so good.
10:37, isn’t “Gods eye” AI already in fast and furious? This was more like Mission Impossible: Sons of Liberty
“This is my Emilio Requestevez” 😂
Good theory tho Mason
Bobby with that tool is back.
I dug it a lot but i'm hard pressed to think this needed to be 2 parts ,the action was great though especially that last sequence on the train.
My only complaints is that, I like the entity, it's a cool idea applied in a cool way especially with the whole they need to go back to analogue to fight it,Esai Morales fell kinda flat for me, also the cliffhanger was kinda weak
Also I had a small nitpick with the plot, that I suppose a quick throwaway line explained and I missed it or the 2nd part will address but I couldn't follow exactly why Gabriel needed the key, shouldn't he want to destroy it?
Let me guess...
America thinks that Ethan is the villain, because while it was a hoax last time and last last time and last last last time and last last last last time and last last last last last time and last last last last last last time, THIS TIME I'm sure he's a traitor!
There IS a traitor, BUT IT'S NOT ETHAN HUNT! It's a different former IMF agent, who is now an arms dealer, who has a weapon they're trying to sell
I would also compare this to the first MI, which had a shocking and mysterious opening followed by constant tension until the reveal at the end. In DR you get a bland origins story prologue of the main villain, followed by a literal 15 min exposition to make sure every person watching knows exactly whats going to happen in the movie. From that point on nothing really occurs plot wise, its just lots of shoe-horned action set pieces.
Fun to see Brit-nerd's s own Mark Gatiss in this in a teeny little bit part.
I still think Rogue Nation is the best movie in the franchise. I'll never understand this obsession with Fallout. Even though I think it's a great movie, it's not the greatest thing ever made
I agree! While the action is incredible in Fallout, I think that Rogue Nation feels much more like a good combination between action set pieces and a good story, when the story in Fallout is more of an afterthought ...
isn’t MI5 the intro of Ilsa? that should shoot it up to the top 😂
I only came to click `like´ on this video, as I enjoy your moderations, but I also DID like that movie. Not great, but solid aka OK enough for me.
I would love to see this movie in one of those D-Box theaters, that car chase in Rome would just be so exhilarating and fun, it would be just like a roller coaster
That cut right after the candle hallway run, it made me think it cut to the Prague run in Mission: Impossible, I thought some car was going to blow up mirroing the first movie, he had the same clothes and similar enough hair to fool me.
So the villain reveal happens in the first 5mins, then we have a skeleton in the closet as a puppet for the remainder with the AI looming over the film.
Lots of great shots, great character scenes and some really gripping action that doesn’t over use cgi so you’re not being thrown out of it.
This movie was real spectacle it's up there for my movie of the year
emilio estevez just looking through files thinking who is it who could bother ethan hunt the most