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STARFIELD On The Smallest Handheld Gaming PC! GPD Win Mini
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
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A code for this game was given to me by Bethesda Game Studios for the purposes of review.
🚀 Embarking on a galactic journey in Starfield, and guess what? I'm doing it on the world's TINIEST MOST POWERFUL handheld gaming PC! - The GPD Win Mini 🕹️ Join me as I navigate the cosmic vastness of this game on a device SO SMALL, yet still having a 7" 1080p screen, it'll boggle your mind. Beyond the gameplay, I'll be diving deep into performance tests to see if this mini marvel can hold its own against the expansive universe of Starfield. Big adventures on a mini device? It's challenge time! Subscribe and journey with me to the edge of gaming possibilities. #Starfield
00:00 - Introduction
01:50 - Settings Used on GPD Win Mini
03:30 - Discussing TDP Performance Considerations
05:13 - QoL Improvements For Bethesda Games
05:53 - Testing Performance from 1080p to 720p with FSR2
06:42 - Space Battles
07:37 - Exploring Pluto
09:58 - Space... Quests!?
11:35 - Welcome to Cydonia
12:35 - Camera on-device Gameplay
14:19 - Docking on Ship in Distress
15:10 - Gunplay is ACTUALLY Pretty Solid
16:27 - Legendary LOOT
i've been waiting for your reviews, the fact that something the size of a 3ds can run a new AAA games at settings not far off an actual console (the XSS) is legit mind-blowing to me. I would assume that with later updates/optimization the game will better utilize the hardware, but even if not it still looks and runs well enough that I wouldn't mind that much. If I ever do play starfield this is definitely one of the ways I would do it.
Would love to see this tested with the G1 over Oculink. 😊
The G1 is kind of a Bad deal tbh. It's a nice idea of an enclosed portable GPU. It's a neat concept. Maybe it's just too soon.
@@jackofblades3171 Can't say I disagree. I own the G1 and use it with a WinMax2 7840u. It's a decent GPU, but it is quite loud when under load and is expensive for the performance it gives.
@@jackofblades3171 yeah, in terms of gross performance and value G1 isn't a good deal, but when talking about GPD products it's all about form factor. I know a 30% cheaper hardware will perform the same, but it won't be as portable.
@@jackofblades3171 specfially now that ADT has a oculink egpu solution that can use Dell / lenovo 330W bricks!. egpu enclosure version only fits 270mm cards tho, youll have to make your own if you have a larger card you want to use
I really wanna see your full review of Win Mini… this little fella might be the one for me.
I’ve been anxiously waiting for your take on the GPD win mini! I may actually buy this one
I think I rather have the Win 4. Any thoughts on which one you like more? The Win 4 just seems so much for comfortable to hold
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop It all comes down to what form factor do you like the most. Do you prefer the PS Vita like design of the GPD Win 4? or do you like the 3DS Clam Shell design of the GPD Win Mini? If comfort is a concern there an optional grip you can buy for the GPD Win Mini.
@@Jimmys_TheBestCop I mostly want this form factor so I can sneak it into work as a portable laptop while still being able to game if work gets slow
@@Xion_Stellar I like clamshells however the trackpad appears to be in such an awkward spot and most indy games and turn based tactical you need mouse functions. So I would lean more into the Win 4.
I do feel like no handheld is the complete package since there are no standards like desktop/laptop. But GPD comes the closest.
The Asus Ally is overrated. No keyboard, no trackpad, no oculink. The Lenovo Legion giant screen and at least has trackpad but no oculink and no keyboard.
Most games I play I need mouse controls and several I really need keyboard. And windows virtual keyboard kinda sucks.
When I stream to laptop or ipad I actually use he Rii i4 keyboard/controller/trackpad device.
@@ninjason57i would suggest win max 2
Games looks awesome, and sounds like 15w is just the sweet spot for the 7840u
The Phawx, thank you as always for quality in the contents, it's great tech info 👍
I have very little interest in playing _Starfield_ but I'm *extremely* interested in the "But Will It Run On..." coverage. Wild to think the Winni needs
I actually need to figure this out a bit more on my channel. I can only really cover high-profile games but I wish I could cover more.
@@ThePhawx You could do a "Lets take a look back at (Insert Game)" and see how some older games play on these newer systems. It can give you a reason to re-play Outer Wilds. =D
I would love to see it try running Star Citizen.... I am still waiting for my WM2-23
@@ThePhawx
Thanks Phawx. Looks great at 13 - 15w.
Thinking about buying a GPD Win mini. It looks awesome. Does it have its own configuration panel, like the Armory Crate on ROG Ally, to manage your game library, watt usage and fan curves?
i may not trust some youtubers but The phawx needs not to prove to us he ain't lying.We all know who the O.G is our boi the goat of these devices.
I have a steam deck but i'm seriously considering selling it to get this just because of the screen and the fact I get a clam shell design with keyboard. I can se my self using it for a ton of other windows stuff.
I have a steamdeck and I will wait on next year's revision of win mini with 8000 series apu.
@@kaemelezzine1827when is 8000 coming exactly?
@@kaemelezzine1827curious if you took the leap and got the 2024 gpd win mini?
Remember when Phawx made the waves because he managed to play GTAV on the Win 2.
It seems like it was ages ago
Those were the times man
I'd like to see how Starfield runs on a Win Max 2 pushed to 30+ Watts
Love it, cant wait to place my order and stop using a broken GPD Win original
Its about time! I very much enjoy The Phawx take on new gpd stuff. HIs glowing review on the 2 win maxes made me buy them immediately. I love having a super powerful all in one device. I really want an experia play predecessor. No matter how many devices release... the best gaming handheld is the one you have with you and most people have their phones. Maybe this pocketable device will be the solution.
I been waiting your review for this device
Finally, phawx win min coverage.
I’m really tempted to sell my steam deck and get a Win Mini, since it’s much more portable.
The ergonomics of the Steam Deck are unbeatable, at least for me with my ogre hands. I love my Win4, but I am wondering if I would have been better off with a Win Max or Mini...
I'm tempted to get rid of my Win 3 to get a Win Mini...but I don't know if I could find anyone who'd wanna buy a Win 3 around these parts. Especially with the dock's HDMI port having recently died.
I’m holding off until a VR mod to experience this space simulator.
It's not a simulator. Want that? Look elsewhere.
It's Fallout in space.
Phawx, when you gonna do a full review on this Win Mini? Im very interested on this device but worried about the thermal and tdp
Second this 😂 hopefully he puts out a full review for the Win Mini soon
@@Xelement360X unless there is some kind of embargo from GPD about the heat... we would like to see the full review
The thumbnail to video transition was insanely smooth 🥶
Winni? Win mini? Love the name
Out of interest, would we be able to get a comparison against the 6800u (18w vs 28w)? I sold my Win 4 on a whim when this thing was announced, and I’m wondering if it actually beats a 6800u device while remaining at a palm-able temperature 🤔
It's awesome it's even playable on it. Also a grand device for streaming games and ergonomically great
Thank you phawx ❤
Thanks for showing us this, can't wait to see this on the G1
It's funny (or sad) that with my GTX 1080 / i7 8700 I'm running the game at 1080p medium-low with FSR2 at around 70% resolution, and getting 30FPS..
These mobile devices are so close now. I love technology.
Waiting for my GPD G1 to see how it betters my GTX1080 in this game lol.
games dont really leverage ur graphics card anymore its more ur cpu the i7 8700 is a 6 core 12 thread chip running on 14nm thats considered below low low end now a days maybe if you had 6c12t on a 6nm device or even a 4nm then ull be ok for a few years but 14nm 6c12t is the bottle neck not ur 1080 ull be surprized what a huge difference cpu makes in gaming and its nothing you can see in hardware monitor i get people saying my cpu is only at 38% utilization so it must be the graphics card but thats not how games work they dont levrage all ur cores and threads they take ur CCX to deturmin ur gmaing performance and the CCX on a 14nm 6c12t cpu is like i said below low end now a days
Finally ...was waiting for you , at last gpd mini update
What is that program he is using to adjust the TDP?
When is the full review of the GPS win mini!?!?!?!?
This little mini handheld runs starfield better than my $800 gaming pc 💀
Hi Phawx, could you please spare some time to test Balder’s Gate 3 running on win mini?
I finished bg3 on my gpd win max 2 6800, mostly on 18-20w so expect 13-15w on the winmini
Looks and seems like it feels great! Would you expect similar performance on the Ally considering the similarities in the chipset?
Yeah it's the same basically
Yeah, there is a tiny performance advantage to the mini apparently, but nothing significant to really notice...
@@bocadog3
I can only imagine how hot GPD in your play time
I was expecting it to be more like no man sky ...free driving , atmosphere entry ,landing wherever u want ...exploring planets .....its like 1 site on planet and i cant even call that open world.
Great video as always
TDP is 13W but total system power is 23W. Something somewhere is a power hog. The screen probably only uses 1w so where is the other 9w all going?
Probably the keyboard and controllers
@@oo--7714 Unlikely
Thats nothing, My Ayaneo air plus 6800u uses 12w for no good reason so even 11w tdp turns into 23w total system power 😂😂😂
Hey Phawx thanks for the preview. I was wondering for your review, do you have any chance of also comparing the 7840U model to the cheaper 7680U model? I am asking because the Win Mini is primarily a low wattage device and I have a small feeling that differences between the chipsets may be neglibible at those lower TDPs. Looking forward to the full review of this beauty. Hoping also for some commentary on fan noise at those TDP thresholds too.
If you are talking about the ryzen 7640u there is a difference on the onboard GPU 780m vs the 760m and its significant. The CPU part of the APU is basically the same. But you are taking a big hit in the GPU part of the APU. However if you plan to stream to the GPD or use occulink for eGPU I would probably go for the 7640u to save money. Not sure the price of the GPD Win Min but the GPD Win 4 7640u is $700 which is only $50 higher than the high end steam deck but you get better screen, cpu/gpu, keyboard and at least adequate trackpad. So its not actually a bad deal. Especially if you are more into streaming from main system or plan to use a dock eGPU.
excellent idea!
whoa, gpd mini...at last😮
I know I’m a bit late to the party, but would you know how Starfield performs with the oculink eGPU?
Can you create a UA-cam short on how this plays the lords of the fallen reboot
I'm going to wait for next gen chip sets in this form factor is perfect
Elden Ring, please
I really hope the xbox ha held is a clamshell ngl
Looks really good 👍
Could you do a keyboard test? Curious as to how itll handle light emails and perhaps qwer on a moba
hey man, nice video! was hard to tell, but what's the fan noise like? and can the fan curves be adjusted?
I would like to know too
Really amazed this runs at steady 30-35 fps on 15wh on the rog
Was your win mini's memory running at the default clocks or was it overclocked? If you overclock it, wouldn't it run faster?
not really, entirely dependent on the type of gpu load
Does the win mini have a freesync screen? Honestly I'd probably just lock it to 30 if it doesn't given how variable the fps is
No it doesn't
This isn't the Legion GO
Will it support SteamOS? Will it be for sale after the crowdfunding or can only backers get it? Thanks.
Valve has opened a pandoras box and has made the traditional dual stick configuration redundant. (Maybe an unpopular but an experianced opinion)... For the price and performance of these devices I dont see the point in a right stick anymore. I really hope gpd ditch this config soon and put some time / money into touch / haptic tech. Keep the trad config in the pow kiddy emu type devices. I would love to see a haptic left stick which can give the feel of 8 way joysticks and micro cherry style switches for buttons
So the Steam deck seemed to do about 16 FPS at times. The next steam deck revision should do better than 35 fps then otherwise they are wasting money making the new steam deck. In the spirit of the Alienware Alpha Steam Machine. Valve should be aiming for 60 fps across AAA titles with their hardware. They are trying to keep costs down though to make Steam Gaming more accessible to a broader audience.
does it play on the steamdeck? There is nothing said on steam yet. EDIT: Oh, this is a Bethesda game, I'm surprised it is running this well as new as it is. I don't buy their games until they have been out for at least 6 months, maybe a year. For the playability and I'm sure this will get quality mods by that time.
I want to buy the GPD WIN Mini But I'm torn between the 7640u and 7840u, I don't plan on running AAA titles on it, it's mainly for emulation. Will PS3 and Xbox 360 emulation be better on the 7640u than the 7840u? I am currently using a 6800u version of the Win Max 2
how do you like the win max 2 ergonomics? I was planning to get it but I was worried it might be to big
@@sniperdude425 It is big, I found the best way to play games on it is totally extending it out vertically resting the keyboard on my knees, and playing it like a tablet
The Best thing I loved about the Steam Deck was the screen size, and the mini shares the same screen but with higher resolution. The max 2 has a larger screen suited for web browsing. and more I/O because of it's bigger size @@sniperdude425
The difference between the 6800U and the 7840U on paper is about 20% more powerful so it would be definitely less compared to the 7640U. That still doesn't mean PS3 emulation will run 20% faster than on your Max 2. You may not even see a difference.
@@sniperdude425 I own both the Win 4 and Win Max 2. The Win Max 2 is definitely heavier and less ergonomic, but since the screen is so big, you can extend your arms and rest the device on your legs and still see the game just fine. It's also much easier to type on and use just as a laptop. The resolution is also higher and the analog sticks are significantly better than the Win 4's. I think the Win Max 2 is just so awesome for many uses, and it has better thermals.
The Win 4 is really cool and small, and definitely more comfortable, but it's still pretty heavy and definitely still not pocketable. It also gets warmer to the touch at the same tdp. In all honesty, I think the Win Mini will be the best pocketable device they've ever made. The Win 4 is like the Nintendo Switch. It's still too big to pocket, so you'll still need a case or bag to carry it safely. The Win Mini will solve that. The only issue is that the Mini will be way worse to type on than the max, and will be too small to use as a laptop. All 3 designs have trade-offs. I personally prefer the Win Max 2 because it's my everything device. I don't need to move files or worry about what games are downloaded where. I can read manga, do my taxes, watch media, handheld game, and now that I'll be getting the G1, I'll be able to have a desktop-like experience by simply plugging it in. I've purchased several gaming laptops in the past, and the Win Max 2 is by far the coolest and most useful.
The game is not Vram limited. And really seem to be more CPU limited and uf you compare multiple cpus you'll see it's actually memmory bandwidth (system ram speed) limited
Liking and commenting for the algorithm. I don't actually care about this game.
Nice
I see you have lots of fun there. Does the screen landscape native or is it portrait that you have to tilt your head when you go to BIOS?
Portrait from what I've heard
@@thymewellspent That's the only annoying thing about GPD products. I mean, they have high demand and large customer base, why can't they make their own small screen with their own spec (landscape) instead of using ready made 'tablet' screens which is portrait by design. I have GPD Pocket 1 that I backed on crowdfunding long ago and I can't believe they do not acknowledge that this is an issue.
Just out of curiosity what issues does this cause? I'm not familiar
@@thymewellspent Some emulator of retro games doesn't work out of the box and requires some workaround. Also not being natively landscape is just weird decision of these type of hardware design. I mean, they still treat this like a prototype.
Agreed. Kinda lame. Thanks for the info though
Have you heard of the rumored minisform tablet powered with this chip ?
Is that the 16 or 32gb ram version?
Hold on. When did you even get a working mini? Did I miss something?
@BlGMOOD I know that, I just thought it was weird that phawx is doing a star field video with it as opposed to just doing a review or first impression as the first video
Where can I buy one! I don't see it for sale yet the gpd win mini that is
hello Phawxn thanks for your video. I am using the gpd win max 2 2023 and i cannot play the game with a correct resolution. Do u have any clue to help me?
At this point would it be worth playing on Xbox cloud ?
Great video. Hey, just an idea: To address your concern about decreasing viewership why not focus on more steamdeck related content? The number of people interested in Steamdeck may now greatly outweigh those interested in these other competitor devices. Eg: I myself was interested in GDP, Ayaneo etc but once I got a Steamdeck my interest in watch youtube videos about competitors waned... I now just watch an occasional video of yours just to support you, despite not being thaaaat interested in the competitors.
Respectfully disagree. There's not really much to cover about the Steam Deck these days besides "But Will It Run..." and I feel like competing with @CryoByte33 for the "definitive settings and optimizations" niche is silly. I watch for the "advancement of the handheld space" content and hope he continues debunking the marketing BS companies like ASUS pump out while highlighting the massive innovations made by, for example, GPD with the G1.
Do you think it will work on a gpd win3?
Anyone know when the crowdfunding opens up?
I'm wondering how the 7640 version compares.
exactly the same 6 core 12 threads vs 8core 16 threads Run games exactly the same if you have 4 core 8 threads thats when u see a difference also the graphics in the 7640u is runnig at 2600mhz while the 7840u is running at 2700mhz u wont tell a difference at all the only real difference ull see is if you crank up the textures on the 7840u ull be able to maybe get away with high to medium texturs while the 7640u ull have to keep the textures low or medium cause of the 8 core units compared to the 7840u 12 core gpu units
love this ❤❤❤❤❤
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Can this device be used handheld at 28W or 30W? I don’t care about battery life, as I play tethered to AC.
Some folks are saying that the Win Mini runs too hot above 25W because it has a small surface area for heat dissipation.
With a case and 20-25w is fine for me. at 28w the right side is like a furnace but again a case kind of helps this.
This gaget can put a simcard or not. Solikethat.
Isn'r the GPD win 4 pro smaller than this?
Nice 😊
2 hours or 3 hours of battery playing starfield?
I still can't over the lack of USB 3.0 port....
it comes with a usb-c to usb-a adapter so it's not that bad
We need the indigogo release date leaked.
5th Sept 10:00 UTC+8. GPD announced it 2 days ago.
Video ended abruptly?
wow mice
I just don't get starfield ,
uhh i dont think anyone here is interested in starfield but then agian who knows
personaly i hate over hyped crap games which really have nothing to offer
This obsession with fps is getting ridiculous people are watching their overlay more than just enjoying the game
It doesn’t sound like you enjoy games much either if you like complaining on the internet more than playing.
I lock a lot of games to 20fps.
No steam deck no life!
First!
great device but starfield sucks. and f the dev with their pity behaviour on steam
I woudn't call 30fps "playable" 🙄
More like completely fine and a normal experience
Is the screen bigger than the steam deck?
Still waiting for your GPD Win Mini review 🙂