What Happens If China Colonizes The Moon Before SpaceX or NASA?

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  • What Happens If China Colonizes The Moon Before SpaceX or NASA?
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  • @fallencrow6718
    @fallencrow6718 Рік тому +424

    US: pases a law to not cooperate with china.
    China: decides to comply with that law.
    US: thats not fair.

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 Рік тому +28

      American fragility in a nutshell

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому +28

      🤣

    • @Dunger974
      @Dunger974 Рік тому +19

      Obviously china complies with that law. Cooperation by definition has to go both ways

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +14

      ....then US, closes all WalMarts, worldwide, and China says "so solly, we comply now"! ;D LOL

    • @vanguard9067
      @vanguard9067 Рік тому +32

      @@ronschlorff7089 please close all the Walmarts.

  • @gebongstoner7595
    @gebongstoner7595 Рік тому +41

    US : u should share what u found there
    Also US : but u are banned from ISS
    Still US : all atoms in universe belong to us

    • @digitalnomad9985
      @digitalnomad9985 11 місяців тому

      All scientific data of western space missions was shared openly. Even the Soviets did that. It is NOT hypocrisy to expect China to do the same.

  • @davidz7858
    @davidz7858 12 днів тому +9

    Nilson? The director of NASA? the guy said other side of Moon is always dark?

  • @allansh828
    @allansh828 Рік тому +84

    You can look up their official plan.
    Their 2005 plan said to bring back moon soil in 2020 and it was achieved right on time.
    At the same time, the US planned to put human back to the moon before 2016.

    • @user-ph2er3us1g
      @user-ph2er3us1g Рік тому

      China's lunar program: a manned lunar landing will be realized in 2030, a lunar base will be built from 2030 to 2035, and permanent personnel on the moon will be tried from 2035 to 2040. China will not change China's plan because of what NASA has done. China will compete with itself.

    • @bsmusic2601
      @bsmusic2601 Рік тому +4

      The good news is now NASA is alot more open to SpaceX

    • @cascan07454
      @cascan07454 Рік тому

      @@bsmusic2601 Yes but congress views space as a jobs program rather than a means to an end. They're too busy giving kick backs to Boeing on SLS to properly invest in SpaceX.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +2

      @@bsmusic2601 yup, maybe; but those pesky "landings" tho, of Star Ship!! LOL LOL LOL

    • @bsmusic2601
      @bsmusic2601 Рік тому +4

      @@ronschlorff7089 LOL LOL LOL? Do you prefer SLS and buying engines off the Russians? Starship is in development, falcon 9 does a pretty damn good job, so much so it's the first US craft to deliver astronauts to the ISS since 2011 those pesky "facts" in the way of your trolling tho LOL LOL LOL

  • @kalrandom7387
    @kalrandom7387 Рік тому +25

    The US is main problem, is it sat on its ass after getting people to the Moon. I remember the Omni magazines when I was growing up, then I mowed yards so I can have, showing by it this time point they were supposed to be the whole city on Mars. What it really comes down to to me, is through government programs like NAFTA and shipping all the production of American Products to China to get them cheaper has enabled China to become a world leader. In my short lifespan they have went from nothing to becoming the leader in almost everything, from either development or thievery. While the US is cut NASA's budget to nothing and had everything made in China, so if the US gets beat and China takes over the moon, everybody should look at the government and point a finger where the blame truly lies as the US deserves it.

    • @tecumsehneo2174
      @tecumsehneo2174 8 місяців тому

      "becoming the leader in almost everything, from either development or thievery" Leader in thievery? The US tells the rest of the world, including China, they must COPY American style democracy and American form of government or risk being labeled authoritarian or a dictatorship. When countries like China offers to pay for American knowhow or technology so that they can improve their own standard of living, they are told no they cannot. China for example cannot purchase high-end chips due to "national security" concerns. Huawei cannot use the Android OS or Google services on the phones they make. ASML and TSMC are forbidden to sell their lithography machines and their high-end chip fabrication services to Chinese companies. If they try to copy or reverse engineer such technologies, the US call them thieves. Do parents and teachers call their children and students thieves when the latter try to learn from the former? The US dollar is the world reserve currency and with that status, the US alone has the privilege to print as much greenbacks as it wishes to pay for goods and services without having to worry about inflation as a possible consequence. That status also allows the US to borrow and accrue debt without concern. Americans can use their dollars created from paper or created digitally essentially without any cost to pay for real physical products from other countries that required real costs in terms of raw materials, energy, industrial machinery, and skilled human labor. That's what I call real thievery ... so the US still leads the world in thievery by a very very large margin. Have you wondered what the huge US GDP consists of? It's mostly in the services industry. Companies like Google, Apple, Microsoft make huge profits from their software "services" and intellectual property rights. Most Americans make peanuts when compared to the top 1% of Americans. The US media and culture warns against socialism because that's unfair re-distribution of wealth when in reality most Americans have been brainwashed to willingly work to re-distribute wealth to the tiny minority on top at a scale that boggles the mind.

    • @phillipking792
      @phillipking792 5 днів тому +1

      Where is the proof

  • @catbertz
    @catbertz Рік тому +56

    It's so annoying that global political infighting, and let's face it - human nature, are likely to spread like cancer during humanities journey into space. I wish we would just hurry up and mature as a species. Edit: added a word

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому +3

      "human nature", no, it's called, being retõrded.

    • @gebongstoner7595
      @gebongstoner7595 Рік тому +9

      I think it is US nature

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

      remember we are all just "evolved" little monkeys, an inquisitive yet quarrelsome beast, check your local zoo for confirmation, and learn! ;D LOL

    • @DOSFS
      @DOSFS Рік тому +4

      @@gebongstoner7595 Just nature of all nations, China included just they didn't that vocal about it... yet

    • @gebongstoner7595
      @gebongstoner7595 Рік тому +4

      @@DOSFS sure u right 👍
      Any nations with superior power eventually end up with that kind of nature.

  • @Oxxygen_io
    @Oxxygen_io Рік тому +9

    When I saw them swabbing the return sample 4:26 , my first thought was “oh they are checking for Covid on the moon” 😅

  • @Thecoolperson3
    @Thecoolperson3 Рік тому +44

    Imagine if we all could cooperate, I know it won’t happen but we would accomplish so much in so little time

    • @prandomable
      @prandomable Рік тому

      US banned China from ISS. Because Americans don't want Chinese to be stealing technology.

    • @BoatLoadsofDope
      @BoatLoadsofDope Рік тому +15

      It's competition and rivalry that accelerate that pace significantly.
      If we only had peace and cooperation.
      Corruption and greed takes over.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      @@BoatLoadsofDope I agree, but it is also a double edge sword. Look at Ukraine, 345,000 Ukrainian man lost just because USA Joe Biden does not like Putin. Best part est. 600,000 Ukrainian young single woman available now.

    • @urdnotwrex6969
      @urdnotwrex6969 11 місяців тому +1

      in the means of cooperation it is not possible thanks to USA and Britain. They want to be always only ones and be seens as monument of perfection. Well, it will not happen and those two will be humbled. But that will be at year 2040 probably.

    • @digitalnomad9985
      @digitalnomad9985 11 місяців тому +1

      We can't cooperate because we aren't trying to do the same thing. China is attempting global and transglobal hegemony.

  • @mizzshortie907
    @mizzshortie907 Рік тому +105

    If the space race is what it takes for us to get a move on for us having habitats on other floating rocks then I’m All for it

    • @mjax278
      @mjax278 Рік тому +4

      Me too. But we will unlikely be able to partake. Damn shame.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому +2

      Be more like "The Tortoise (China) and the Hare" Note, China has been working on outer space aka Moon, Mars & space station since 2018 24/7. Launching almost every month. Compare to US trying to keep ISS afloat.

    • @taufiqatiq6563
      @taufiqatiq6563 11 місяців тому

      @@chriswong9158they are going to dispose the ISS

    • @captainjackpugh6050
      @captainjackpugh6050 10 місяців тому

      @@chriswong9158 China is inferior to America's capabilities. We will beat them in every race

    • @SpaceCapybara732
      @SpaceCapybara732 9 місяців тому +1

      That’s one way to put it.

  • @AHappySpace
    @AHappySpace Рік тому +34

    Awesome video, but let's be serious, 2:26 in the 60s USA was playing catch up the whole time, and wasn't till the last phase that it got ahead and "won" the space race against USSR. USSR did everything first and had way more hours in space then USA. When Kennedy made the speech about the moon the USA had only 15 min of humans spaceflight with Alan Sheppard's suborbital flight(at this time Yuri Gagarin has already orbited earth a few times). The 60s space race was just playing catch-up, just like this space race so far...but I'm always cheering for USA!

    • @PeopleHealthTru
      @PeopleHealthTru Рік тому +6

      USA had better movie Set technology for NASA.

    • @donhuang9855
      @donhuang9855 9 місяців тому

      The fact that the USA is playing "catch-up" is because the USA is too pre-occupied eye-balling every nations on Earth to take much notice of what's happening in Space. Now that some other nations (Russia or China or others) are doing something ahead of the USA, an obsession of the USA, it now becomes a matter of urgency for the USA to do whatever that is needed, and nothing is deemed too low for consideration, in pursuit of such endeavors.

  • @chasetronicsinc7719
    @chasetronicsinc7719 Рік тому +41

    WE SHOULD ABOLISH THE "WOLF AMMENDMENT " be kind to China and
    invite them on our Space Station ! Stop acting like little kids ! ALL countries
    should work together in Space Exploration for the common good of mankind..
    sharing new discoveries etc. ... I feel very strongly about this..Grandpa Ron
    (Formerly having served in the Apollo Program)😊

    • @LOL-gj3qg
      @LOL-gj3qg Рік тому +5

      Yea I mean it's called the INTERNATIONAL SPACE STATION

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому

      Not possible now, it's war, forever.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

      @@LOL-gj3qg yup, such an absurdly dumb name, since the USA paid for 90% of it; and almost all parts for building it were delivered by our Shuttle spacecraft. ;D LOL

    • @tfneto2417
      @tfneto2417 Рік тому +1

      USA station will last only 2 years more now they need China to go to space

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      @@tfneto2417 We only need China to go to Walmart with their cheap junk! ;D

  • @prandomable
    @prandomable Рік тому +8

    Chinese also drove rover on Mars. Not just Moon. China and India have lot more mission planned to Mars and Venus as well.

    • @Mearex_
      @Mearex_ 15 днів тому

      don't lump china and india together

    • @prandomable
      @prandomable 15 днів тому

      @Mearex_ both countries ALL have future Venus missions...whether you like it or not. Although yes no cooperation...
      But both ALL have future Venus missions...

  • @theone8189
    @theone8189 Рік тому +28

    Let me guess, the US would say space is for all humanity. What if it is the other way round ?

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому +3

      👨‍🚀 🔫🧑‍🚀

    • @catfish5272
      @catfish5272 Рік тому

      Trying to wrap my head around that concept. What if space were for all humanity?

    • @theone8189
      @theone8189 Рік тому +9

      @@catfish5272 Don't we wish. The course changed in 2011 when the Chinese were banned.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому +4

      @@theone8189 and now USA want to play in China sandbox aka Tiangong space station

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      @@catfish5272 No need to, for China had the best teacher of how best use of Space, Teacher: USA.

  • @Tighclops
    @Tighclops Рік тому +1

    also just wanted to say I like your videos!

  • @jasraajjassal4519
    @jasraajjassal4519 Рік тому +3

    its good that there is competition
    because at the end it will help humankind

  • @MarkGardner66Bonnie
    @MarkGardner66Bonnie Рік тому +11

    I really enjoy all of your content, and this one is no different. Thank you for putting this out. You are right, if it wasn't for Space X... we would be looking a lot less sure...

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      NASA will receive $25.4 billion in fiscal year 2023 vs FY 2023 DoD (military) Budget $773.0 billion is a $30.7 billion, or 4.1% increase, from the FY 2022. It's est. $16 Billions per rock launch to the moon (if no problem like SpaceX Starship) in the USA. The "Artemis" campaign will cost $93 billion. No matter if by NASA or SpaceX, America is not going anywhere.
      Now ask, is the USA interested in going to the Moon & Outer Space or War. Can't spend $773 Billions for nothing.

  • @eugenehardy1597
    @eugenehardy1597 Рік тому +1

    I always loved your videos, keep up the good work.

    • @asianconnection7701
      @asianconnection7701 Рік тому

      IT'S ALL FAKE , usa faked moon-landing now china faked it's moon-landing .

  • @completeepicness5070
    @completeepicness5070 Рік тому +31

    I think you should do an episode on the Japanese space program. They have a long history and some interesting projects cooked up.

    • @kingace6186
      @kingace6186 Рік тому +1

      JAXA is undeniably underrated. And I honestly only recognized their efforts due to Senku's dream from "Dr. Stone".

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому +2

      "Budget" is keeping Japan Space Program grounded. Japan may get maybe 2 launch each year compare to China monthly launch. fyi, this month alone launch twice (one weather satellite & one cargo ship to Tiangong). Like driving, the more, the better you get and drive the cost down. Too bad Japan program depend on USA.

    • @jchanmcse
      @jchanmcse 11 місяців тому +7

      Do not waste time on Japan! It needs approval from it's master first for anything.

  • @thirteenthandy
    @thirteenthandy Рік тому +19

    NASA has the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter with complete moon views, far side included. Also in the 60s the US was also continuously lagging behind most Soviet space accomplishments.

    • @davout5775
      @davout5775 Рік тому +2

      They were not lagging behind tho. Most Soviet accomplishments were met by American ones very close by.

    • @willng247
      @willng247 Рік тому +2

      If this is true then there no reason for US to complain 😁

    • @davout5775
      @davout5775 Рік тому +2

      @@willng247 Nobody in the US is complaining

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      @@davout5775 In a two man race, second don't count.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому +2

      @@davout5775 Have you not hear from NASA complain, Trump acting on "The Space force"... complain, complain...

  • @whatthefunction9140
    @whatthefunction9140 Рік тому +3

    the ultimate high ground

  • @gumkamaami
    @gumkamaami 9 місяців тому +2

    Change'4 landed in south pole Aitken basin only....it took everything from there already...that's why change'5 came back to earth with samples from around south pole

  • @angelv1393
    @angelv1393 Рік тому +2

    Love to see it happen.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому +1

    11:29: Even he’s realized and telling ya there “there is more than moon, Kitty Cat keeps telling you that 😅”

  • @ericblanchard5873
    @ericblanchard5873 Рік тому +18

    Space race is all good and fun, but why is it always with a so called enemy? Or soon to be enemy due to the cooperation with China and Russia. We should be having a space race with Canada or a friendly ally that is somewhat close to US space accomplishments. But I'm all for it if it brings us to putting roots on other planets or moons. Innovation from space races is always neat and pushes humanity forward. I'm all for it.

    • @sleepyjoe4529
      @sleepyjoe4529 Рік тому +23

      Because stirring ultra nationalism and fearmongering of communism gets you funding and public support

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому +6

      @@sleepyjoe4529
      merika

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      Yes, no need, we have competition from American companies like SpaceX and Blue Origin, and maybe others yet to evolve that we can trust. Funding comes from the people, the more they want it to happen the less they are unhappy with higher taxes to finance it, and the opposite is true. Other countries don't care what their or any people think, they do what they do, like invade the Ukraine, or release a world-wide pandemic, for examples. ;D

    • @lexneuron
      @lexneuron Рік тому +2

      Call Nelson of NASA to abolish that very creative Wolf Amendment of 2011 first.

  • @kingace6186
    @kingace6186 Рік тому +10

    The Space Race is no longer just about low-Earth dominance and moonshots. Thus, it is objectively inaccurate to argue that the Chinese National Space Administration is "winning" the competition. This looks at lunar exploration in a vacuum without fully recognizing the scopes of space telescopes, stellar-related missions, agendasbeyond the moon, rocket technology, and accessibility. With that rubric, the Western-led effort is obviously punching well above China's weight, despite the NCSA's exploration effort, temporarily out-performing NASA's Artemis program.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +4

      Yes, it's a pretty Laughable thesis, but that's Canucky boy's hallmark, I come here to poke fun at it, and as many fan boy commentors as I can!

    • @boluomi99
      @boluomi99 День тому

      China has never compared its ability with anyone. China is just exploring space step by step.

  • @XxkohoxX
    @XxkohoxX Рік тому

    Lmao the liberty prime dialogue though

  • @brett4264
    @brett4264 Рік тому +6

    There's no difference. The U.S. played catchup throughout the space race in the 60s. The Soviets were ahead thru most of the 50s and 60s.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 Рік тому +1

      Agreed. This new race to the Moon seems similar to the one between the USSR and the US.
      The only difference I potentially see is that once the US builds a space outpost on the Moon, will the US continue to fund human crewed space exploration?
      I don’t see China giving up on the Moon as the USSR did at the end of the 1970s.
      I see this new future Moon space race going on for decades.

    • @zwwdplay19830914
      @zwwdplay19830914 Рік тому

      @@bb1111116 China is not the USSR, I just saying repeatedly again & again !
      understand your opponents is vital in a space game, China has sent abundance of students studying aboard in USA.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 Рік тому +1

      @@zwwdplay19830914 ; I agree that China is not the same as the USSR but it is for the reason I explained.
      China has a strong, growing economy.
      The USSR in the 1970s and 1980s had a weak economy that was not growing.
      The USSR stopped trying to go to the Moon in the late 1970s and early 1980s as its economy failed.
      China, with its powerful economy and backed by a determined government, will not stop human space exploration at the Moon.

    • @zwwdplay19830914
      @zwwdplay19830914 Рік тому +1

      @@bb1111116 I sincerely hope that US and the China will cooperate in the space field instead of confrontation, we been colonzied by many countires in recent history, hate to labeled word " Colonzied" , the space exploreation is belongs to the whole human kind.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 Рік тому

      @@zwwdplay19830914 ; I am aware and understand the history of China.
      I wish you well.

  • @TTM9691
    @TTM9691 Рік тому +5

    I really appreciate your videos, they help see through the b.s.

  • @pacisablo
    @pacisablo 4 місяці тому +1

    Where are you getting all this information from?

  • @leafrika6520
    @leafrika6520 Рік тому +20

    I think we should learn that technology improvement support those who invest the most we definitely cannot rule out China's capabilities, especially now that Russia is seemingly cooperating with them, if you can take people to space and maintain a space station for a prolonged time then you probably will be easily inclined to land people on the moon.

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      China will have human on the moon with the help & support of Russian.

    • @teaser6089
      @teaser6089 10 місяців тому

      LEO is childs play compared to landing on the moon.
      The fact NASA did it in the 60s is nothing less than a miracle

    • @donhuang9855
      @donhuang9855 9 місяців тому

      @@teaser6089 NASA landing on the Moon, if real, does nothing to advance Mankind's benefits on Earth. For all we know, NASA is hiding many secret information that Humans on Earth ought to know. And the strangest thing of all is that, for 50 years, NASA stopped its Moon project until China took an active interests, which duly triggered a sense of urgency for NASA to visit the Moon before China does so. What happens if China’s Moon project is merely a RED HERRING to distract NASA when it is MARS manned landing that China is really planning for?

  • @ronschlorff7089
    @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

    Well good, at least there will be some good take restaurants on the Moon. No doubt we'll open some Walmart and Harbor Freight stores there too. And anyone on the base can get their jumpsuits nicely pressed as well!! LOL ;D

  • @czhusky
    @czhusky 10 місяців тому +2

    Q. What happens if they get to all the best moon spots first?
    A. Moonwars

  • @Virtualmassslave
    @Virtualmassslave Рік тому +1

    dose the us shear all info?

  • @TychoNorris
    @TychoNorris Рік тому +8

    It's kind of sad how every space UA-camr these days are just secret Elon musk Simp channels. Let's be honest it's not Elon musk who's coming up with all these great ideas and engineering the new rockets and things like that he comes up with an idea and employees smart people to solve the idea he's doing nothing but providing the capital.

    • @nickl5658
      @nickl5658 Рік тому +3

      Alot of that capital is coming from winning NASA contracts and prizes.

    • @markharmon4963
      @markharmon4963 4 місяці тому

      You are defending a fake controversy.

  • @lancedao1273
    @lancedao1273 8 місяців тому +1

    You own the spot where land! That's it.

  • @tonymcgray9599
    @tonymcgray9599 9 місяців тому

    This time round, it will be more like the plot of for all mankind

  • @FranciscoRamirez-gb6zc
    @FranciscoRamirez-gb6zc Рік тому +5

    Nasa needs to stop doing business with Boeing. They might be better off having SpaceX and Rocket Lab taking over all the moon missions

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      those Star Ship "landings" and RUD's tho' LOL ;D

  • @davidmacphee3549
    @davidmacphee3549 Рік тому

    Good Video

  • @orionSpacecraft
    @orionSpacecraft Рік тому

    With what launch vehicle?

  • @netizencapet
    @netizencapet 8 місяців тому +2

    Both China and the US signed the moon treaty. Grow up and work it out by following the agreement: no one owns it, no one puts weapons there. One way to do this would be to have 3 different powers - the US, China, the EU, and whoever else could afford a hefty budget - develop a joint monitoring system that would help keep the big players honest, at least to an important degree. The US is so embarrasingly hypocritical, counterproductive, and combative, that the incredible progress that could be realized with much greater cooperation will not come to pass.

  • @lukafilm
    @lukafilm Рік тому +10

    Man, it's a 'For all mankind' scenario!

    • @hagankeys3610
      @hagankeys3610 Рік тому +2

      Minus the Yankee

    • @yatapote
      @yatapote Рік тому

      🤣

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      Yes, art often precedes science, look at Jules Vern and even the American Movie "Destination Moon", made in the 50's!

    • @chriswong9158
      @chriswong9158 Рік тому

      Have you hear of: US Wolf Amendment Act of 2011.

  • @brocky1970
    @brocky1970 10 місяців тому +1

    SLS and Star ship havent even made it to LEO

  • @YoungGandalf2325
    @YoungGandalf2325 Рік тому +34

    "There is a big difference between sending little robot vehicles and microwave-sized satellites to the moon and being able to send a full-sized crewed spacecraft to the moon."
    Yeah, cost. We should be spending money to make capable rovers that can perform missions autonomously for months or years at a time rather than sending a few people to bounce around in their marshmallow-suits for a couple of days.

    • @LOL-gj3qg
      @LOL-gj3qg Рік тому +7

      Marshmello suits lol

    • @treasurehunter3744
      @treasurehunter3744 Рік тому +7

      What we should have done is establish a rapidly reusable system for space travel.
      Flyback boosters, space planes, and orbital infrastructure should have been the focus after the Apollo missions to make space readily accessible.
      Putting marshmallow suits on the moon, and beyond for colonization is the end goal, and we need a lot of marshmallow suits.

    • @DOSFS
      @DOSFS Рік тому +6

      Depends, sometimes no matter how advanced the rover is it gonna fall short compared to humans especially when sometimes unexpected happened.
      And both side gonna do a lot of rovers anyway.

    • @matthewviramontes3131
      @matthewviramontes3131 Рік тому

      @@LOL-gj3qg that got me too. Lmao

    • @ArjunaKunti
      @ArjunaKunti Рік тому +4

      @@treasurehunter3744 a real rapid reusable system should had been made BEFORE any lunar or long term orbital space station programme!

  • @grahamlane1313
    @grahamlane1313 Рік тому

    If nasa is going back to the moon with artiemus 3 this mad idea why not send jim lovell to set foot on it then have a direct link from apollo missions to new ones

  • @sproctor1958
    @sproctor1958 Рік тому +12

    Make no mistake, the American space program was constantly playing "catch-up" with the Soviet space program right up until Apollo 8 in 1968, and even after!
    In every metric, the Soviets were beating the Americans in space exploration, both manned and unmanned.
    It was a "propaganda" battle as much as anything else.
    With the failure of the N-1, and the success of Apollo 11, the Soviets concentrated on LEO, and left the moon mostly to the Americans... who then seemingly went to (cheaper) robotic planetary exploration instead.
    Consequently the Soviets kept the "High Ground" with their orbital space laboratories for decades... and the Americans were still playing "catch-up" until the ISS was built.
    Now, with the Chinese setting the pace, and the Americans playing catch-up again, there is a new propaganda challenge for these respective governments to get behind.
    Ought to be an interesting show.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      zzzzz yawn, thanks for that "fascinating", as Spock would say, insight, worthless as it is coming from a losing contender to the main event!! As for the future in space, yes, it is up for grabs. It will be interesting, maybe even fascinating. LOL ;D

    • @sproctor1958
      @sproctor1958 Рік тому +2

      @@ronschlorff7089 I believe the correct response would be "You're welcome", although in consideration of the worthlessness of the insight previously referenced, I would suppose it would be more for the induced sleep aid instead of my reminiscent commentary.
      Fascinating, indeed!
      🖖

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      @@sproctor1958 Yes, and may you live long and prosper!! ;D LOL

    • @ssdhusg6042
      @ssdhusg6042 8 місяців тому

      Even if Apollo is the hoax of the century, Americans will not admit it, and even continue to create hoaxes.

  • @leoperez2566
    @leoperez2566 Рік тому +1

    The US was playing catch up in the 60's as well. The USSR had Sputnik 🛰

  • @AHappySpace
    @AHappySpace Рік тому +1

    Should be noted that starship first orbital flight will not orbit the earth, it's more of a large suborbital hop

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      Oooooooooooooooo! Can't wait for that "giant leap" in space technology, eh!! LOL ;D

  • @Sammy-wq9hj
    @Sammy-wq9hj 9 місяців тому

    Yeah! Convert all cars into Jetplanes and let's all fly into space,

  • @rh1960
    @rh1960 Рік тому +1

    Let sen. Harry Reeds and his Senate committees new head of Space Force Department. Lt. General Saltsman take care of those decisions. A brilliant pick by Sen. Reeds and the other committee Senators. They need to show more of these committees meetings. Very educational and informative. Sen. Reeds 👍

  • @thedamnedatheist
    @thedamnedatheist Рік тому +3

    Maybe if NASA as better funded and not subject to the whims of individual congressmen, this situation would have come up. Let's wait until the SLS or Starship actually work to get too excited about them. There is a lot of hype & promises right now...

  • @pipersall6761
    @pipersall6761 9 місяців тому +2

    I dont think I agree that China is ahead. As you glossed over, we were on the moon first, and that rover on the moon? We have multiple rovers on MARS! But its true China is developing quickly and their robo soil retrieval was pretty cool, and yes they are currently on the moon researching. We brought back hundreds of pounds delivered by the guys who were actually there. Im pretty amazed by China who has been doing this mainly on their own (except for all the tech they have stolen) whereas we have had an international cooperation doing what we have. So I admire Chinas advances and it will be interesting to see who steps on the moon first this time. But I still think it will be America.

  • @limchonghoe8864
    @limchonghoe8864 21 день тому

    I still like Neil Armstrong photograph being the 1st man landing on the moon. Did he bring a photographer?

  • @NicholasNerios
    @NicholasNerios 8 місяців тому

    How much will the Chinese moon habitat vacation cabins cost? Do they have white picket fences, and some kind of rumba collecting materials to sell from your lunar property?
    Or maybe India will have lunar resort real-estate first?

  • @laopang91362
    @laopang91362 Рік тому

    Send in the Space Force.

  • @SnerMerNer
    @SnerMerNer 8 місяців тому +1

    We in the U.S. have a few other advantages that China does not.
    -We've been there before and know what we're getting in to.
    -Also, the moon holds a special place in every American's heart, as there is a national pride for being the first and only humans to have set foot there.
    China is lacking in both of those areas, though they have other advantages that we don't. Can't wait until both nations have moon bases and they help each other out on the lunar surface (it would be foolish not to). If Americans and Russians can get along in the ISS, we can get along with the Chinese on the moon.

  • @david50665
    @david50665 Рік тому +18

    if usa makes progress in space everyone in the planet is happy for them...however usa cannot have the same magnanimous attitude to others...they only have ill-wishes for others success...such a petty mindset

  • @Marc816
    @Marc816 9 місяців тому

    We'll have to pay them rent.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    3:54: Their’s go to Pluto.

  • @1mariusfredriksen1
    @1mariusfredriksen1 Рік тому +1

    What is Artemis 2 Science? Has to be more than eyes, surely?

  • @SolarisSaber
    @SolarisSaber 7 місяців тому

    Then, the US will colonize the moon and then immediately aim for mars to one up china

  • @hannibalyin8853
    @hannibalyin8853 9 днів тому

    there's not "what if", it already happenning, like, today.

  • @hlinville6034
    @hlinville6034 Рік тому +1

    There's money in them moon rocks!

  • @billc.4584
    @billc.4584 Рік тому

    I'm thinking it'll be like when the seagulls make their appearance toward the end of "Finding Nemo". Mine! mine, MINE! mineminemine etc. Peace.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    8:35: This one was heading for Neptune.

  • @joegonzalez6241
    @joegonzalez6241 10 місяців тому

    i am going to do all my chassi designs in titanium. not taco bell style. engines wise small sip will probably use musk engines and bezos engines for my larger ships. now i just need energy supply and back up then life support systems

  • @arthurguilfoil1082
    @arthurguilfoil1082 Рік тому +2

    Finally someone said the farside of the moon instead of the darkside.

    • @davidstevenson9517
      @davidstevenson9517 Рік тому +2

      Pink Floyd said, "There is no dark side to the Moon, it's all dark..."

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +2

      @@davidstevenson9517 What's the album cover say?

    • @davidstevenson9517
      @davidstevenson9517 Рік тому +3

      @@ronschlorff7089 Why, it's titled "Dark Side of the Moon" !! (Oddly enough...).

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

      @@davidstevenson9517 wrong, it's the far side of the moon correctly astronomically speaking! So, P. Floyd fucked it up! LOL.

    • @davidstevenson9517
      @davidstevenson9517 Рік тому +2

      @@ronschlorff7089 I believe both the album title and the spoken aside at its conclusion were meant metaphorically, for personal contemplation and self-reflection (with the best of intentions, I'm sure).

  • @JJ-yg1sf
    @JJ-yg1sf 8 місяців тому

    US like to talking before doing. China like doing before talking.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    10:16: This is the Metal-Glass moon

  • @thisguyhere85
    @thisguyhere85 10 місяців тому

    in the lead how?

  • @4yerears
    @4yerears 19 днів тому

    I don't care what country goes... I just want to see somebody continue exploring. Can you imagine how much more we could accomplish if all these agencies worked together?

  • @Russiandude0
    @Russiandude0 Рік тому +1

    The first space race was one by Ussr

    • @davout5775
      @davout5775 Рік тому

      Nope

    • @Russiandude0
      @Russiandude0 Рік тому

      @@davout5775 yep first to space,mars, humans, moon rover, orbit,

    • @davout5775
      @davout5775 Рік тому

      @@Russiandude0 The first rocket to space was a German V2 rocket in 1942. The Americans had the first successful mission to Mars so the Americans are first there. The Americans sent Shepard literally 3 weeks after the Russians. And the Americans were first to the Moon which brought the end of the space race with the US winning.

  • @tankorkor1142
    @tankorkor1142 5 днів тому

    how about the other way round ?

  • @DarnizzleMan
    @DarnizzleMan Рік тому +1

    Just like the US military has weapons probably 100 years more advanced but don't think other countries don't either we have no idea what's really going on

  • @Dcassimatis
    @Dcassimatis 15 днів тому

    I really appreciate the space race voice scaring the heck out of everyone,.... keep up the good work,... FYI the U.S. currently has 6 satellites orbiting the moon, has landed 2 landers at the south pole and 3 more will be landing this year,... falcon heavy is capable of translunar injection,... right now,... only being held back as to not embarrass SLS,... the next 6 years will be interesting. I hope the C.C.P. keeps up the pressure,... NASA just diverted it's science budget to Artemis.

  • @Impimpster2000
    @Impimpster2000 Рік тому

    They will have the first cemetery!

  • @yongdexin867
    @yongdexin867 Рік тому +1

    It is the next best thing that has ever happened to mankind.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    7:52: That is a place called Jupiter

  • @brandentempelmeyer4785
    @brandentempelmeyer4785 Рік тому +1

    This is one reason why an absolutely infuriates me that people in the US don't want to explore space anymore. Us not pursuing space colonization and leaving it to other countries, It would cause worldwide issues if nothing else just from the amount of resources China would have at there disposal

  • @tobyihli9470
    @tobyihli9470 9 місяців тому

    We can all agree that as far as “staking,” a claim, drones don’t cut it. Am I right, or am I right?
    It takes boots on the ground, a physical stake, and some kind of mark. A flag does just fine.
    We already have this stuff there on the moon. We now just need to let everyone know what our claim is. How much of the moon are we claiming,

  • @jerrystern10marissanikki62
    @jerrystern10marissanikki62 Рік тому +7

    I really like your channel. Found you a month or so ago. The only comment I I have for NASA is the United States fell behind because they sat on your butts since 1970s. When I was a kid I thought for sure we’d be at the moon and beyond in the 80s. Hopefully we can catch up and not be Overtaken by China and China getting there first.😢

    • @mikelloyd520
      @mikelloyd520 Рік тому

      Yes, usa LOST a all its IP because it did zero. Assuming of course the moonshot was real…….. I don’t know now.

    • @nickl5658
      @nickl5658 Рік тому +5

      NASA budget fell from a peak of 4% of US GDP to about 0.4% GDP. It is not that NASA sat on its butt, but rather space exploration was deprioritized and NASA just had no more money. In 2021, the US spent $803 billion on its military, while only $22 billion on NASA. The chinese space agency in comparison had a budget of $13 billion and that budget is growing. If purchasing power is factored in, china's space program has as much spending power as NASA. As things stand, China will catch up. It is just a matter of time.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      @@nickl5658 Yes, congressional budgetary priorities began to shift from space and other science-based programs in the 70's. That's when green began not only in the US but worldwide. Remember Earth Day began in 1972. Also, many domestic welfare programs were initiated then that are still with us today. They've eaten up trillions since then. No priorities no money, no space exploration that costs bigger bucks.
      We did ok, with starvation budgets for NASA, for the unmanned space exploration programs, like Viking, Voyager, low earth orbit manned, shuttle, the many versions of our Mars rovers, Cassini, Hubble, Tess, Kepler, and James Webb space telescopes, the current DART asteroid mission, etc. etc. etc. etc. But manned deep space missions have suffered. Not seeing much from China in the unmanned front but a rover on mars and the moon, so far.
      If NASA keeps getting crumbs, while stupid congressional domestic spending continues, then yes, we will be left in the dust, both moon and Mars dust. So, if you like space, stop the Democrats' spending madness in November with your votes.
      And it may be time to let others take the risk and spend the money and cheer them on or mourn their humans lost in space. Fortunately, we lost none in our deep space missions to the moon. But some will die, cold and alone, soon, in the vastness of deep space in the coming years. I can see that clearly now! ;D LOL

    • @MnktoDave
      @MnktoDave Рік тому

      @@ronschlorff7089 Don't blame domestic programs (welfare or otherwise) while the corporations in this country (that run our government!) continue to show their endless, selfish greed, on a daily basis, by ripping off the American people in almost every conceivable way... all while paying virtually no taxes, and contributing very little back to the upkeep and/or expansion of infrastructure in this country, and while continuing to make solid windfall profits on almost everything (from drugs to health care, banks and wall street, the oil energy sector, and the military industrial complex, just to name a few). Due to their relentless greed, we and our way of life have been sold out for profit, and now they're coming after those few domestic programs left, that were designed long ago to help the people of this country. They won't be satisfied until we don't have anything left, and they control everything. Our falling behind in the space race was caused totally by their love of $ and unwillingness to invest the money to stay ahead, and now because of that, it may have also caused some very serious repercussions in our national security, too. Over the years the republican party has always been supporting big business no matter what their agenda (and always taking from the little guy to do it) but the democrats are just trying to give something back, of what they've already lost...but both parties (and the rich corporations) are equally guilty of cutting NASA's budget to the extreme, and putting this country behind in space. And there may come a day that we all suffer, because of that.

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому

      @@MnktoDave trillions for welfare, in 80 different programs from WIK to food stamps, versus any "welfare" for corps, who produce jobs and our market-based economy, while recipients of welfare have produced absolutely nothing, over the past 50 years. Meanwhile NASA got crumbs because of social program spending by the dems, mostly, starting with old Jimmy. Do the math, NASA budget vs Food stamps budget, for this year, as only one example, if you dare, ...you f'ing dem commie!

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    5:31: This is from Uranus.

  • @bob456fk6
    @bob456fk6 11 місяців тому

    There are so many questions to be answered before we put people on Mars.
    We haven't even returned a rock sample from Mars yet.
    How will people respond to low gravity (to say nothing of radiation)?
    For the long term, we don't know if people can reproduce on Mars.
    We should send a colony of mice up there to see if they can reproduce and survive for a long time.
    After several generations, which only takes a couple of years, we could bring the new mice back for further analysis.
    One mouse only needs (very roughly) 10 pounds of food and water for a Year.
    Therefore, a whole colony could be sustained for a couple of years with a reasonable load of supplies.

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    8:51: Uranus

  • @kettelbe
    @kettelbe Рік тому

    Artemis just did :D

  • @alexlee9276
    @alexlee9276 Місяць тому

    how open is blue origin. ask bill nelson that. what about darpa, ask bill nelson about that.

  • @ulikemyname6744
    @ulikemyname6744 Рік тому +1

    Nothing will happen aside from China waking the competitiveness in America which is big part of their culture. America was made from competition. Tbh tho China will not get there first and there are couple of reasons why.
    The first reason is the rocket. China doesn't have a rocket to get there even in testing phase. They have not even finished their engines and their rocket is in design stage.
    Second reason is capsule. To go there is one thing but to establish yourself there is entirely different. They don't have a capsule big enough to transport big cargo. America not only has Crew dragon that can carry huge amount of cargo but they also have Starship which will be able to carry around 150 tons to the Moon. China would need big rocket not just to make it to the moon with cargo but also to make a space station there. And on that note...
    The third reason is lackk of space station development on the Moon. You would need a checkpoint near the Moon not just for a command center but also in anything is to happen.
    The forth reason is China does not have the space suit capable to sustain life on the surface of the Moon

  • @expecto1982
    @expecto1982 10 місяців тому

    You claim but you don’t dare look at moon rocks. Moon rocks are very dark matter. It shifts colors and texture depending on which planet serves as the moon on a particular night.

  • @enzofitzhume7320
    @enzofitzhume7320 Рік тому +2

    Neil and Buzz were from the United States right? History shows the United States landed men on the moon first. I could be wrong. Confused!

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

      Yup, so were others in first Apollo missions to the moon, in the late 60's and early 70's, those named Pete and Alan, John and Charlie, Dave, Gene, Harrison, Edgar, and others, plus those who remained in orbit, in the command module, while they were on the moon, in the LEM, like Michael Collins of Apollo 11. All that, along with those Americans who orbited the moon first in apollo 8 (and took those first photos of Earth) and 10. Apollo 13 never made it though, and barely got back safely. Big list of American astronauts went to the moon and returned alive. You are richly welcome to try to beat that record, other countries!! Good luck, .....you will need it! LOL ;D

  • @cumbyjames
    @cumbyjames Рік тому +3

    Give NASA money please

    • @ronschlorff7089
      @ronschlorff7089 Рік тому +1

      vote for someone who will in the next election. That's the only thing holding all space research back to this point.

  • @yufish6576
    @yufish6576 2 дні тому

    One day our sun will become a red giant star swollowing earth. We really need to work together to find where is the future for human being. from a Chinese American.❤

  • @chazbell754
    @chazbell754 Рік тому

    We did hit an asteroid or two with our probes. Not too shabby.......IMO.

  • @donhuang9855
    @donhuang9855 9 місяців тому

    The real question to ask is what would the US do when China managed to colonize the Moon before or after NASA does? The US government only want the Moon for itself, but certainly not with China / Russia or any other nations deemed as "strategic competitors" of the USA. The very thought that China is busy planning for more MARS and other deep space projects in the near future is enough to trigger the anxiety of the US government.

  • @kastenolsen9577
    @kastenolsen9577 Рік тому

    Read Second Exodus Colony . A good approach to colonizing our solar system.

  • @visitorfromoutthere
    @visitorfromoutthere Рік тому +1

    Most people believe what ever some important say 96% of humans on earth have no clue at all what's REALLY going on

  • @rkramer5629
    @rkramer5629 Рік тому

    Starlink for the Moon please SpaceX! Moonlink?

  • @visitorfromoutthere
    @visitorfromoutthere Рік тому +1

    Why u thing bill nelson and others are worried

  • @abhiframes
    @abhiframes 9 днів тому

    India has already landed a rover in South pole of Moon...chandrayan

  • @joeboxter3635
    @joeboxter3635 9 місяців тому

    If china colonizes the moon first, they could declare a war on the moonies, which could draw the entire human race into a fight we are not prepared to fight.

  • @ingemar_von_zweigbergk
    @ingemar_von_zweigbergk Рік тому

    bizarre that chinese companies don't have reusable rockets yet,
    all that industrial base, but no tools to use

  • @xTheUnderscorex
    @xTheUnderscorex 3 місяці тому

    "Complete and total domination of the Moon" isn't accurate at all. The USSR was first to reach lunar flyby, impact, far side imaging, survivable landing, orbit, and rover landing, the US was first to reach crewed landing and sample return.