This is what went wrong for Brent Venables and the Oklahoma Sooners

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  • @johnniewashburn378
    @johnniewashburn378 22 дні тому +10

    Coaching is everything. BV should have seen this before the start of the year. If he wants to coach here then he is going to have to do a better job.

  • @Del-Scent
    @Del-Scent 22 дні тому +25

    Brent should stop hiring out of loyalty and hire the best candidate for the position period. Stop hiring internally and look outside. Quit hiring friends. Smh

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому

      He probably has learned now. Now that his job is on the line next season.

  • @blakekey2101
    @blakekey2101 22 дні тому +7

    We need to recruit like a sec school. Mcculaugh and Jayden Gibson are the example of sec sized and skilled athletes that we have to go out and get. I’m tired of seeing our QBs having to throw to 5’9 receivers and 6th year seniors.

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому

      Which 6th year seniors?

    • @soonerborn7603
      @soonerborn7603 22 дні тому +1

      5’9” receivers? All of our big receivers are hurt, it’s not like we just don’t have those guys on the roster.

  • @toddneva
    @toddneva 22 дні тому +11

    Why so many injuries? Is Oklahoma doing something different. Are we hitting to much in practice? Is Schmidt doing things that promote injury? Why didn’t we get a real offensive coordinator instead of hiring Oklahoma retreads?

  • @jamesthrice2253
    @jamesthrice2253 22 дні тому +8

    "What went wrong?" Jackson Arnold

  • @abpob6052
    @abpob6052 19 днів тому

    Practice injuries are an issue. They should be rare. If you are getting too many injuries you have to change the practice program which is the coaching responsibility.

  • @jt_dolla_signs
    @jt_dolla_signs 22 дні тому

    Things will be better next season

  • @DominicJGomez
    @DominicJGomez 22 дні тому

    The corners have been a bruise for us but I’m confident that room will be great next year

  • @INFIDEL912
    @INFIDEL912 22 дні тому +1

    I am pissed and embarrassed for this program , but if we get rid of Brent we lose the defense, we need to get an OC and qb coach , the new OC needs to bring in a qb with him. That is the best answer with emotions removed, we’re mistakes made yes, I wouldn’t have fired Gundy, but the Litrell hire had been a huge mistake and this new OC is crucial to the programs success. If we had a top 60 offense we would have won most games this year. We also need to bring in a new nutritionist and medical staff if for no other reason than they have lost the confidence of many. I know the fans get mad and want everyone gone but we got to be smart. Where I would look elsewhere: cornerbacks , tight ends, we have to recruit more size . DeMarco is a great recruiter, but I don’t see development and who he plays over others makes no sense. Defense btw would be even better if the offense was good, if we played with a lead and forced offenses to be one dimensional we would be able to pin our ears back and get after the qb. Jackson is not him he needs to hit the portal!

  • @Dread-HeadedTexan
    @Dread-HeadedTexan 21 день тому

    At least you got softball to look forward to.

  • @fast-one3871
    @fast-one3871 22 дні тому +5

    OU is the Bob Stoops Legacy Football Program. He makes the decisions and he led the search committee and hired Venables. Bob wants loyalty so he hires his people. Runs OU like Jerry Jones does the Dallas Cowboys.

    • @Mzbbxhfbfnsx
      @Mzbbxhfbfnsx 21 день тому +1

      And Both programs are in the toilet now

  • @dwilliams7011
    @dwilliams7011 22 дні тому +1

    First off, leave OL and WR coaches alone. Rb Coach, give him 2 more years at least. OU needs a good dedicated Qb Coach and an elite OC. Hopefully BV will address this properly.

  • @stevenpritchett4933
    @stevenpritchett4933 22 дні тому +1

    Brent knows he messed up hiring friends instead of hiring proven playcallers/QB coaches who know how to develop talent. That said, where’s the fire? Where’s the passion?
    Where’s the pride? Because this does extend to the defense as well, because of all the drives they needed to stop, they couldn’t stop a bad Mizzo offense when they had to get a stop. This was Kansas 2.0.

  • @stanwallace-kj8gy
    @stanwallace-kj8gy 22 дні тому

    who is the quarterback coach? Not seeing any development. didn't see anyone sitting down with Jackson Arnold during the game.

  • @michaelak1416
    @michaelak1416 22 дні тому +4

    They will be fine.
    Get an OC that can bring the boys we NEED on that side of the ball (hopefully some transfers with him) and lets GET IT ON!

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому

      I honestly think we would be fine next year if everyone we have is healthy but we have to get the right OC and QB.

    • @TheGridironInsight
      @TheGridironInsight 21 день тому +2

      Oklahoma fans has to learn patience something we're not used to. That on top injuries. The Running backs room is stacked with the 24k roughriders! We're going to be good with a solid OC hire.

  • @BranDZ7
    @BranDZ7 22 дні тому +4

    Everybody deserves to be fired.

  • @rodgerbane3825
    @rodgerbane3825 22 дні тому

    The thing is, I don't think OU can both afford to buy out BV and the entire staff and bring in a top candidate say for example Curt Cignetti or Shane Beamer. CAN OU afford both? I have my doubts but I'm not an insider. Lebby when hired was thought to be a TOP guy in the country and the results were decent. Probably our best bet is to go all in on an OC, but there are issues with that as well. So yeah we are in a tough spot.

  • @mcrozz69
    @mcrozz69 21 день тому

    Jay, we're now in the SEC. If you pause anywhere in your program for just a season, you get setback years.
    In the old NCAA rule book we would be dead and buried. Good thing is we have the PORTAL...and Brent has shown that he's pretty good at NIL.
    I have faith in Venables, dude, but it's fleeting.
    Offense - you can't have a QB throwing for 74 yds... that's just unacceptable.
    Defense... allowing 11-14 on 3rd down to Mizz is not good defense.
    Good news is that O'Neal comes in in 2026. This coaching staff MUST be ironed out by 2026...AND I MEAN MUST!

  • @cecilshaw207
    @cecilshaw207 22 дні тому

    It's to late for BV but let us let him go gracefully

  • @chrisfairbanks7392
    @chrisfairbanks7392 22 дні тому +1

    It’s the offensive line! We lost all starters last year and Cayden Green left. And OC. OU is going to have to spend a lot of money for offensive lineman in the portal.

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому +1

      Lots of teams have bad olines and there QB can still make plays. It’s Jackson man he’s gotta go.

    • @chrisfairbanks7392
      @chrisfairbanks7392 22 дні тому +1

      @ that too!

  • @raysmith2477
    @raysmith2477 21 день тому

    I think you have to put some blame on the training staff very inconsistent in keeping these players on the field. BV next OC hire will be his defining legacy good or bad.

  • @firghteningtruth7173
    @firghteningtruth7173 22 дні тому

    Just go get Mack Leftwich, (or similar OC, but I think ya'll should take a HARD LOOK at Leftwich. He is my favorite for ya'll for a few reasons) maybe an OL or two in the portal. Perhaps a qb, but definitely a good QB coach.
    Keep BB, everyone else on offense can go.
    And talk to me next year.
    I think you'll be fine. Shocked, even, how good you can look.

  • @CWsooner
    @CWsooner 22 дні тому

    I'd hoped you'd of listen to Teddy and Gabe before this video. Gabe said that the offensive line perfomed good enough to win the game. Drumm has said twice now that BV is a micromanager that he drives his coaches hard and that he's hard to work for. Also, someone commented during his show that Gundy said they don't have route trees evidently. Probably why they can't get open. Where was Jordan most of the game? I only remember him getting a few snaps. If the starting receivers still weren't completely healthy, they should've stayed with the ones they've been playing. Arnold reverted to his bad habits of holding onto the ball again but if his receivers couldn't get open, well, that's whole nother problem. We're back to this, why can't we do what other teams do to us, thing again. I just miss Cale. You knew what you were going to get from him and his players.

    • @UNFAIRSPORTS
      @UNFAIRSPORTS  22 дні тому

      Saban also was a micromanager and pushed his coaches hard, you gotta do that to survive this conference.

  • @sandygreen8553
    @sandygreen8553 22 дні тому +1

    I still don't understand why D Murray let Tywee Walker leave he played well for OU.

    • @mattpope770
      @mattpope770 22 дні тому +1

      He has zero control of any player entering the portal. Plus, it was clear that Walker and Murray weren't on the best of terms

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому +5

      @@mattpope770If OU would have gave Tawee a scholarship like he deserves, he would’ve stayed.

    • @sandygreen8553
      @sandygreen8553 22 дні тому

      Did coach Murray make an effort to keep Tywee? The player was a walk on he was willing to work for the team the coach doesn't need to be best buddies with the players coaches need to DEVELOP the players to get the best for the player and team. Tywee was a big loss which his coach should have known would be a great loss to OU. ​@mattpope770

    • @mattpope770
      @mattpope770 22 дні тому

      @@Postman700 pretty sure Wisconsin gave him a scholarship, plus NIL. So no tellin

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому +1

      @@mattpope770 yes they did, so why didn’t we?

  • @JamesHolzberlein
    @JamesHolzberlein 22 дні тому +1

    The problem started when we hired BV. We are a major blue blood program and we should have been able to get an established head coach. I’ve said this before but BV is a good assistant coach a good recruiter and a nice guy. When he arrived we lost a lot of starting people who transferred with Lincoln or ran to another program. Then the injuries occurred. But mostly the fact he had never experienced the pressure and duties of a head coach.

  • @DominicJGomez
    @DominicJGomez 22 дні тому

    Personally, I’m ready for a new crew. Let’s be real, the offensive side of the ball has seen limited development. Only one I would give a pass is Emmett, and even that might be a stretch with a new OC

  • @stephanwolf5075
    @stephanwolf5075 22 дні тому +1

    Even with a good OC, I think our ceiling with BV will be 9-3, 10-2. We will not be dominant like AL and UGA. We will be able to beat teams we are favored against, but rarely beat a team better than us. We'll make it to the play off and get beat first or second round, and never win a NC. If you're happy with that, then BV's your guy. If you're wanting to be dominant like AL or UGA.... well, hope springs eternal.

    • @jacobsmith5865
      @jacobsmith5865 22 дні тому

      Going undefeated in the SEC is probably going to be 10 and 2 records at best like UGA, ole miss and bama are this year

    • @stephanwolf5075
      @stephanwolf5075 22 дні тому

      @jacobsmith5865 Maybe, but I think AL and UGA of the last several years would be undefeated this year.

  • @leerucker9461
    @leerucker9461 22 дні тому +1

    Why do we have a veteran QB sitting on the "Shelf"; who's got more experience than the entire offensive team?! P L E A S E help me understand the WHY...C. Thompson!!!

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому

      Can he even physically play?

  • @randyunderwood2894
    @randyunderwood2894 22 дні тому

    as i have watched how the offence plays, it looks like texas tech. that game does not play in the sec. where did our smash mouth style go?

  • @dodgerblue182able
    @dodgerblue182able 22 дні тому

    What happens if BV is fired?
    Do we lose 2025,2026 & the few 2027 recruits we have?
    Will it take 2028 or 29 To get competitive again?
    If he stays one more year?
    Could get the OC and other needed coaches and start being competitive in 2026. By competitive, 9-3 or better.
    If he fails it just one year longer than the 1st scenario.
    Any thoughts?

    • @soonerborn7603
      @soonerborn7603 22 дні тому

      I heard Indiana has 10 of the 11 guys on offense who weren’t on their team last year. And yet they’re the #1 scoring offense in the country (last I checked). I’m not ready to fire BV yet, but he’s had three years to do what Cignetti has done in less than one year.

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому

      We need BV for 1 more year and try to get a great OC. Because if we could have an offense like last years and a defense like this years or better. It would be a damn good team.

  • @michaelhapgood782
    @michaelhapgood782 22 дні тому

    IMHO. BV needs one more year at least. I would keep Zack Alley, Todd Bates, and Emmitt Jones. Let a New OC pick his staff and replace the rest. Joe John has recruited one top TE in two years. BB had to get 6 OL out of the portal in one class. There are 13 freshmen, 2 sophomores, and one crippled junior. Unexpectable. Personally, that smells lazy to me. With the talent on the roster, (If they can keep them) a good OC should be excited to coach at OU.

  • @geraldpreston817
    @geraldpreston817 22 дні тому

    BV is a loyal guy wasnt going to just shit can everyone..... need to hire a real OC....and kept Dillon...we could have but media hated Dillon

  • @ryanrz88
    @ryanrz88 22 дні тому

    BV had a bad first year, better second year. Hoping he uses this off-season appropriately and 2025 is his revenge tour…

  • @DominicJGomez
    @DominicJGomez 22 дні тому

    Demarco Murray should go. Haven’t had a developed RB since Eric grey

    • @gustavogutierrez5024
      @gustavogutierrez5024 22 дні тому

      @@DominicJGomez Eric was a transfer so na you can’t count that as development

    • @DominicJGomez
      @DominicJGomez 22 дні тому

      @ exactly, the fact we haven’t had one like him since him

  • @Mzbbxhfbfnsx
    @Mzbbxhfbfnsx 21 день тому +1

    This program is a dumpster fire

  • @Postman700
    @Postman700 22 дні тому +11

    Jackson Arnold looks like a deer in the headlights every time he touches the ball, which is every play! We have to get a portal QB.

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому

      Such a colossal disappointment.

    • @Postman700
      @Postman700 22 дні тому +1

      @ it blows my mind that it’s this bad.

    • @AOkie68
      @AOkie68 22 дні тому

      We messed up letting DG go. BV was clueless on that one. He's not gonna be coaching at OU much longer. We should call Bob and see what he's doing?

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому +1

      @ DG was injury prone. He probably wouldn’t last an entire seasons behind this OLine getting hit so much and having his top 5 WR out most together season would have made him look far worse than he is at Oregon.

    • @AOkie68
      @AOkie68 22 дні тому +1

      @@bastiat9049 i do agree our O line would make Joe Montana look like Jackson Arnold. 😆

  • @soonerfanintx
    @soonerfanintx 22 дні тому

    Its poor QB play, and poor Oline play due to injuries, you talking heads make sure the damage seems worse, with better QB play they could have won all the games they were in.

  • @thomasslinger3767
    @thomasslinger3767 22 дні тому

    I want to believe you about next year, but I just don’t think these guys come back. Why what’s the argument to stay. Kip Lewis is gonna get drafted anywhere. What’s the argument to Barnes and RBs to stay? I think he’s lost the program and there is going to be an exodus this offseason.

  • @918nate
    @918nate 22 дні тому

    Gotta bunch of Joe C’s on the interwebs 😂

  • @kafka2k
    @kafka2k 22 дні тому

    if "iron sharpens iron" our offense shoulda been cooking long ago. I don't understand the ongoing ineptitude. Boomer

  • @geraldpreston817
    @geraldpreston817 22 дні тому

    Coveted for now

  • @mcd1192
    @mcd1192 22 дні тому +1

    I have thought about Murray as overrated running back coach for two years. Either these players dont get developed or he is not watching film to see what they actually bring. Almost like he goes to web site like the reat of ua and says o he has 4 stars he is the one. Think these two freshman will be very good but not cause of Murray.
    I'm with you on not firing Brent just yet. The first season he got there late. The transfer protel was not much left. I saw that coming. This year think the offense coach hire was lazy or what ever it was, it was bad hire. He is not offense coach. He needs a good one. He also needs a good assistant coach so when the offense coach leaves he has another one in the making. With that said his offense has to come out quickly out the gate next season. If it looks like this next year he will be fired before the 7th game.

  • @JH-ov1ix
    @JH-ov1ix 22 дні тому

    Firing Cale Gundy is where all this came from and everybody knows it! Jackson Arnold is a inexperienced QB who needs a experienced QB coach like Gundy was, Arnold is playing exactly like a inexperienced qb that has multiple coachs trying to give him advice and it shows big time when hes out there behind center, he needs to have just 1 coach telling him how to fix his mistakes!!!! Firing Gundy hurt OU more than people realize, people forget that Gundy basically talked Adrian Peterson into committing to OU, I mean cmon!!!

    • @Yung-Ohld
      @Yung-Ohld 22 дні тому +1

      Not entirely true, texas told Adrian they were gonna stay loyal to Cedric Benson his senior year and that adrian wasn't gonna get a ton of playing time. That's ultimately why he came to OU

    • @CzarEternal
      @CzarEternal 19 днів тому

      Gundy was never a QB coach when he was on staff.

  • @darrellstevenson7702
    @darrellstevenson7702 13 днів тому

    We should go get Primetime he can motivate and turn a 1-11 team around in 2 short years!!!

  • @Sooner_Spy
    @Sooner_Spy 22 дні тому +6

    Enough of this garbage of unqualified people evaluating coaches!

    • @Monzy5
      @Monzy5 22 дні тому +1

      Bro you stay hating. I peeped you hating on my cousin's channel. Freedom of speech bud nobody cares who is qualified to talk about "evaluating". You act like he can hire the coaches.

    • @Sooner_Spy
      @Sooner_Spy 22 дні тому

      @@Monzy5.....roflmao! To hear you ramble makes one think freedom of speech equals qualified to evaluate coaches!.... I'll consider the source, or lack thereof!...smdh

    • @freddyboss7
      @freddyboss7 21 день тому +1

      Man that’s bullshit, fans can give their opinion and evaluate coaches. Who said only “qualified people” can? And who exactly is considered qualified?

    • @Sooner_Spy
      @Sooner_Spy 21 день тому

      @@freddyboss7 Boss my ass! Just like every little whiney Sooner fan that doesn't get what they want, when they want it cause you're spoiled from days gone by! Venables isn't to blame for the rash of injuries that no team could sustain or players who constantly turn the ball over! This coaching staff stated they had to tear it back to the studs and a rebuild doesn't happen overnight, so put your big girl panties on and shut the hell up! And to give you the obvious answer....Joe Catiglione, the School President and the Board of Regents are the ones who are qualified! Class is now over Puthy Boy!....Boss....roflmao!

    • @Mzbbxhfbfnsx
      @Mzbbxhfbfnsx 21 день тому

      They really don’t know what they are talking about

  • @justin81706
    @justin81706 22 дні тому +5

    I honestly think we are overreacting. So we go 5-7 our first year in the SEC after going 10-3 last year. I think BV will fix it during the off-season, and we will win more games next year. It really isn't that big of a deal....yet!

    • @richardchambers5936
      @richardchambers5936 22 дні тому +1

      South Carolina also went 5-7 last year look now

    • @bastiat9049
      @bastiat9049 22 дні тому +2

      The offense has not gotten better throughout the season.

  • @stevenclair5002
    @stevenclair5002 18 днів тому

    I would be willing to swallow my pride, bring Lincoln Riley in to run the offense,dude can dial up some trickery Brent can handle the defense. This pro stuff not cutting it in the SEC

  • @geraldpreston817
    @geraldpreston817 22 дні тому

    Turnovers....no qb coach. Naming Seth OC......SHOULD HAVE FOUND REAL OC

  • @gustavogutierrez5024
    @gustavogutierrez5024 22 дні тому

    Texas broke this program at red River 😂

  • @thebestdigi6221
    @thebestdigi6221 22 дні тому

    If they allow Venables to stay which I think he should be let go but the buyout won't allow that every offensive coach should be let go other than BB JMO

  • @blakekey2101
    @blakekey2101 22 дні тому

    Keep Murray, keep Emmitt jones, fire Finley, fire John’s, keep bb. Our problem is recruiting, I’m tired of seeing us mainly recruit in state and north Texas. With Riley we was landing guys in Georgia, Florida, Alabama, the states with real blue blood talent.

    • @918nate
      @918nate 22 дні тому +2

      Huh?? BV has out recruited stinkn lincoln every year he’s been year. EVERY YEAR.

    • @blakekey2101
      @blakekey2101 22 дні тому +1

      @2019 class was number 4 2021 class was number 6 and 2018 class was number 9

    • @blakekey2101
      @blakekey2101 22 дні тому

      @ Bv has struggled just to keep us at a top 10 recruitment class. This year we are at 11 and we are probably about to lose the only 5 star we have in that class.

    • @918nate
      @918nate 22 дні тому +1

      @@blakekey2101 you must looking at the wrong sites but that’s ok. I’m not gonna get on here and argue with you. I’m taking BVs classes. He also recruits the whole nation for sure. Plus every coach OUs had recruits texas.

    • @blakekey2101
      @blakekey2101 22 дні тому +1

      @ I 100% agree but I’m saying we went from occasionally recruiting in state. To now seeing HUGE parts of our class being mainly in state recruits and guys from north Texas. Jayden Gibson is the prime example of how we need to keep recruiting. We need sec size and talent. Not 4a 5’10 wide receivers.

  • @americanhero1234
    @americanhero1234 21 день тому

    😂😂😂You won't say what is exactly going on but I'll say it!!! Since Coach Prime hit the scene no program is safe. Black players have a place to go if they don't feel safe in their current situation.

  • @rickbranstetter9263
    @rickbranstetter9263 21 день тому

    You guys are a bunch of idiots if your quarterback doesn't do very good in your front line doesn't do very good what are you guys expect him to do quit saying they're going to let him go he's the best thing for this University just give him some time. Boomer Sooner