The LAST Pentium 4!
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Hello everyone and Welcome (atlast) to a new Budget Builds video where today we're going to be taking a look at the Final Pentium 4. A Very strange release, that served no purpose....Released right into the Core2Duos lifespan, at a price point almost too high to make sense....What exactly was going o, why was it ever released, and more importantly how exactly does it perform....Well its a Pentium 4, so you already know what to expect.
Intro - 0:00
The History - 00:14
The Specs - 2:34
So Who Bought Them? - 3:41
The Benchmarks - 5:45
General Performance and Thoughts - 9:51
Conclusion - 12:24
Music
OpenTTD/TTD - Stroll and The Hobo
MGS - Hidden Jazz
Simcity 3000 - Building
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Specs:
CPU: Pentium 4 641
GPU: HD7770 - Very Overkill
RAM: 8GB DDR2 667Mhz
OS: Windows 7 64Bit
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Is tHe PEnTium 4 WOrTh it In 2020?
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@@BudgetBuildsOfficial i am watching this vid pentium 4
yEs iT iS!!
Can it run crysis?
6:52 If only that guy knew he got killed by someone playing at 5 Fps, I’d be so embarrassed.
R.I.P Donkey
Died due to embarrassment
Guy was probably using a Pentium 4 1.60Ghz
Probs was using my shitty laptop processor Intel celeron n3450
Also it's a year old and the whole laptop is dying
Tbh he just looked like he was AFK spinning in circles anyway. I get like two of those guys per match in DM nowadays, idk why lul
And that other dude got third partied to hell, can't really get hung up on that in a DM server
I was a QA tester at Intel back then, and tested the desktop BIOS for the P4 launch.
I'm curious, what kind of errors were you hunting for back then as QA tester?
May I ask about what is a QA tester ?
@@abdo206 Quality Assurance, which is used for checking a product for possible errors or defects and prevent them or fix them if found.
@@proCaylak
Thanks
@@abdo206 sure. QA is short for "quality assurance." I tested various types of software, mostly at Intel in Oregon. At the time the Pentium 4 was releasing, I was on the team that tested the BIOS software for compatibility with the new processor. My group mostly was responsible for OEMs, like Dell, HP, Asus, etc.
My family went from a Pentium 1 to me visiting my grandmother every Sunday after church to experience how much faster her computer was using a Pentium II for several years until my family was able to afford a new Pentium III which felt even more powerful then my grandmother's computer! And later on we got a Pentium IV! It felt so cool watching the performance get better throughout my childhood!
Wholesome stuff!
Well looking back I see my small smartphone that run so much faster than any pentium CPU can run, and our phone doesn't have big ass heatsink attached on it.
I had to copy programs from a magazine, and save them to tape.
@@thatsawesome2060 True. I guess the current gen experienced the same thing but with phones. The difference is 90s pc kids were reading PC Mag, dreaming and drooling over the next best thing.
I'm still waiting for the Pentium 5
you got Pentium (G4)5(60)
Prescott was so much different (31 pipeline stages or 11 more than Gallatin), despite it still being based on NetBurst, it should've been called ... Pentium 5.
Well... we got core i9 so maybe someday Pentium 5 too lol
the pentuim e series
@@VeryVanillish imagine pentium e3/5/7
I’ve got a couple in XP gaming machines. Pair well with FX cards for a completely authentic experience. It’s horrible and I love it.
Just like Cradle of Filth.
@@paramjotsingh26 Playing UT99 and Quake III while listening to Midian is my jam.
Well, when I was a kid, I used to play with P4 1.6ghz and 32mb tnt2. After several years, my father bought a second hand fx5200. It was such an upgrade for me, then I overclocked it to it's death 😄 It only worked for several months, then tnt2 was back 😁
@@Ereghro fx5200 is a fantastic card. I used it as my daily in a Dell P4 2.26ghz for years and I remember finally being able to watch 480p videos after swapping in the fx5200, I had received it with a geforce2 MX400.
I actually bought this cpu on aliexpress for a retro build together with a Geforce 9600 GT (I already owned the GPU, I only bought the CPU). Because why not for €1,20. It works like a charm and I played through Fallout 3's base game around 55 FPS
I kind of wish some period games were shown in the video too. I know that's not the premise, but it would serve as a point of reference.
@Brandon M Thanks man!
I picked one up to replace the celeron d in an emachines computer.
Oh ho ho HO! Its SO much better then that celeron!
I actually remember reading about the P4 in some complimentary airline magazine right before takeoff. That would've been back in August 2000, before the P4 even launched. Was just some small tidbit about Intel planning to release a 1.4 GIGAHERTZ(!) processor in November - and man was I pissed, having just purchased a very expensive 866MHz P3!
Steve F those willamette P4’s weren’t so great though, you were probably better off with the P3! 😀
2.0GHz Willamette was similar in performance to a 1.4GHz Tualatin P3
I just watched a video yesterday about the 1.4Ghz P3 vs 1.4Ghz P4, by uh.. Phil's Computer Lab? I think it was? The P3 Handily beat the P4 with both at 1.4ghz, and the 2.2? I think, one was mostly a match for it. Quake 3 for some reason though just looooooved the P4 and was a huge outlier.
I had a p4 back in highschool and it ran cs source perfectly. that's all I needed back then :D
I was pissed when my friend 4months later got dual core while I was stuck on single core
he explained concept of dual core still runs e something the code
I can't believe they kept netburst available through 2008.
I worked in a computer shop in the late 90's and early 2000's. I remember when we got our first pentium 4. It was touted as a big deal... but as time went by people would walk by it on the way to the Athalons, and the Pentium 3's that sold well... It sat there for ages.
My first pc was a pentium 4. Used it for 6 painful years.
I was so young that I hadn't even heard of AMD until AFTER I'd bought a core2 duo replacement
I remember my dad's windows XP machine with a Pentium 4 HT that had a cooler the size of of jet engine and it sounded like one as well 😂
Did he cleaned it ones or did he used it as a vacuum cleaner? Because that would explain the noise...
@@burkhard1256 gigabyte G power cooler that thing was so loud unless you had it at absolute lowest setting but tha would make the p4 boil and the original inter cooler would also make the p4 boil even wether it clean or not
The processor surname : the radiator
I used a Socket 478 P4HT Prescott as my main PC until 2017. It was OK until about 2014, usable up until about 2015. After that, it was a nightmare. The XP on it was last installed in 2011, IDE hard drive, in 2016 the boot time was around 4 minutes, and I had to watch YT in 360p, despite in 2011 it way able to play 720p without problems. Yes, it was power hungry, and generated a lot of heat accordingly. I always joked the HT in its name comes from HEAT.
@@xavierguipon5833 I called my Prescott PC a space heater 🙂 .
Other tech youtubers: So here is this super crazy expensive pc part that you probably can't buy
Budget Builds: haha pentium 4 go brrr
Normally dont like comments but this one 👏
@@Praneel Yes same here 👏
isnt it more like "pentium 4 go *_cough, cough_* " ?
*haha pentium 4 go [FAN SOUND]
@@und4287 oh, right.he did say expensive tho (as in performance)
I feel so OLD seeing as I can remeber when the pentium 4 was a new thing!
CoolDudeClem wagwan!
I remember when the i486 was new so...
I remember when the Commodore 64 was the best gaming pc and the 8088 XT. I was well into my 20s when the Pentium 4 was out
i remember when a light bulb was a new thing
@@nerevar8823 you are 140 years old?
Interestingly, I also had one of these last Pentium 4s when I was collecting PCs, which also had a MSI motherboard that was only compatible with Pentium 4s and not Core 2 Duos and Quads.
The courage to run GTA 5 at 240p on a Prescott Grill...here, take my upvote and respect.
Courage? You mean patients?
@@9852323 courage and patience
@@9852323 patience*
u mean press hot?
prescott? it's more like "cedar mill".
HT stands for Hot Trash
Nah mate, hyperthreading is actually really good tech
@@AveragePootis That is until Spectre and Meltdown killed it.
Those exploits have a lot more to with Intel's implementation of speculative execution not HT.
You think that's bad? How about Plundervolt killing undervolting?
@@TheLucidLuxray Unfortunately, AMD CPUs are more vulnerable, due to GPU IP hack on their server. AMD touted their CPU to be the most secured CPU, only to be exploited first.
A Pentium 4 single core in 2020 that brings back the good old days during the Windows XP era
Even though an athlon 64 from years ago performs better
@@joseislanio8910 the Pentium EEEE 990FX kicks it's ass tho (perhaps only in TDP)
The last Pentium 4
-Tell me... How he died?
-No... I tell you how he lived
@ThinkGamer no, i just assumed you are still hot.... Garbage...
@@AchmadBadra Athlon64 kill him :D Just like Ryzen is killing Core i nowadays
@ThinkGamer Pentium: ¿¿¿
The Last Samurai reference. Love it.
@ThinkGamer eh well atleast it's not a Pentium 4 so you get a gold star
Sega actually used a Pentium 4 3Ghz HT for their Lindbergh Yellow arcade board, It was paired with a Geforce 6 6800 GT . Virtua Fighter 5 and House of the Dead 4 looked really good for 2005-2006.
I used one with with ASRock 775Dual-VSTA motherboard due to its excellent upgradeability (AGP and PCI-e support!). Later I replaced my Pentium 4 541 CPU to Core 2 duo e4600, and GPU from AGP 7300gt to PCI-e Radeon 4670 and this setup served me until 2015 year when The Witcher 3 arrived. That upgrade path was nothing short of legendary.
Those GTA V resolution and quality were so low that I literally thought it was driver 1
"Well its a Pentium 4, so you already know what to expect."
I expect that I will not have to buy a new heater for the winter!
I remember the shock of changing my old radeon 1950 pro grfx card (12v at 35amp, I still have the powerbox!) years ago, around P4 time funnily enough, and suddenly having to put the heating on for the first time in ages! My combo of P4, the 1950pro, and a couple of HUGE crt screens was keeping a whole upper *floor* in my house warm at the time 👀🤣
@@mor4y good old days. miss them.
I talked to you in December on discord. I was the guy with the Athlon 200ge. Still one of my favorite moments. Keep making great vids bro.
You always have a cool looking watch on, i'm a bit of a WIS myself. Can we have a budget horology official?
This takes me back. I bought a pre-built in Jan 2007 with a P4 631@3GHz. I upgraded to the Core 2 Duo E6300 @1.86GHz and got double the performance due to it having 2 physical cores and a higher bus speed. 800 vs 1066.
Budget Builds : "Goodnight"
Internet explorer on the Pentium 4: "The Pentium 4"
69 likes wow
Still 69 lol
I remember upgrading from a Celeron D 2.80GHz to a Pentium 4 3.40GHz one and that performance jump was so massive
I have been waiting for this !! Thank you Budget-Builds !!
Crazy how modern Intel CPUs come with a nearly identical cooler!
some design just works
Worst cooler design throughout the whole of CPUdom though. I can say with confidence that throughout the last 70 years, there has never been a worse cooler- and I include the vacuum-tube computers in that!
I cannot remember how many of these things people around me broke through the years, and how many additional, unnecessry hours have been spent trying to install or reinstall this cooler.
Just a horrid patent! Truly abysmal!
It amazes me no end, how they kept using this thing down the years.
I still have my old P4 Northwood with an 800mhz FSB, when Prescott came out I just passed and waited until the core 2 duos came out. It still works great....well great for running things of it's era anyway.
Northwood's unite!
@@vtwinbreed Dempsey unite
Same 🙂 I jumped to E6600 on nForce 4 but always wished I had a Q6600 instead
who would expect a pentium 4 that would have the modern intel logo
Not uncommon at all. The modern Intel logo was introduced in late 2005 or thereabouts. P4 remained popular through late 2006, until the widespread availability of the Core 2 Duo negated any reason to buy it. So there are plenty of 2006 systems with a P4 and the sticker on the case bears the more modern Intel logo.
i still have pentium 4 ht with the modern intel logo
interesting
Nice to see you in my notifications. I’ve missed ya :)
They are pretty good as a Windows 98 CPU, allthough I usually go for a 478 one.
I always wondered about these punch holes on the box. Were these vents?! Did it require cooling while IN THE RETAIL BOX? Jokes aside, I remember juggling between Athlon XP, Pentium D and Core2 Quad, and being absolutely floored by performance jump on C2. Fun fact - Intel's team which proposed over 500 W 5 GHz P4 in Austin, got tasked to build sub - 1 Watt CPU, which ended up as Atom. Obviously pairing it with 945 was stupid, but hey, costs.
I have been checking your Chanel daily for new content here it is now thank you
Thanks for time the stamp 😊
5:45 I thought for a very long time that this was a "Driver" game
I remember the days of the Blue Man Group promoting those Pentium 4s. That way of marketing actually sort of worked!
I'll always love how in Cinebench R11.5 I had Northwood, Prescott and Cedarmill all with the same score clock-for-clock. Even with Northwood being stuck inside a laptop with single channel DDR 333 vs dual channel DDR2 800 for the others.
the GTA 5 looked so bad that at first I thought it was san andreas XD
Yep
Same
Yep, that's what I noticed also at first glance.
San Andreas isn't my cup of tea, never been. But I can assure you, it looks and runs so much better on PS2 (the weakest console on the 6th generation) than GTA V running on the P4.
I played SA a few years back
Used this thing till 2017 , performed pretty good alongside 4GB DDRII and an SSD
Everybody forgets that the Pentium 4 was to be paired with RDRAM. That was what Intel had intended all along. It was to be a balanced system with good performance but perhaps a little pricey. However, the OEM's insisted that Intel use SDRAM. To make a long story short, Intel redesigned the Pentium 4 to use SDRAM. Unfortunately, that negatively affected the Pentium 4's performance...and the rest as they say is history.
One day I will cover the first of the Pentium 4s....But that might be a while away,
This is true but the difference was small. A Pentium III Tualatin with SD-RAM had no trouble to beat the Pentium 4. Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Pentium 4 was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
Not only that, pentium 4 has long pipelines. AMD took the bait with bulldozer.
RDRAM does nothing worthwhile even for the Willamette 850 chipset that supports it.
Pipeline is too long, fsb is too low, trace cache replay system causes wasted cycles. But most of all pipeline go stall and needs constant reloading.
High letency ram for processor suffering high letency problems caused by it's bad design? Yeah right..If you really know about P4 architecture flaws specially those first ones RDRAM only - it's cache, its association, non standard line size, way pipeline worked, number of cycles for common instructions, specially SSE - if you knew that you will not try to repeat these marketing myths. And did some testing on RDRAM (PhilsComputerLab for example) vs SDRAM. Pentium 4 was badly designed CPU and RDRAM was simmilarly bad concept.
i don't know why but i can hear 009 sound system when he started typing on the notepad
Might be interesting to benchmark Left 4 Dead 2 on these types of machines. It's a game that does a good job of bridging the gap between older titles, like Half Life 2, and a more recent game like GTA 5.
i played this video loudly in my car, and it became a transformer.
You mean it became a core with wire windings?
@@SianaGearz oh hell yeah, and it moves by vibrating :D
@@SianaGearz no i mean it became transgender xd
3:22 Is it me, or did that just sound EXACTLY like "oof" from Minecraft?
Roblox
@@vikeghawlimz965 No, Minecraft.
That CS:GO experience is exactly when I played CS 1.5 with POD BOT 2.5 using my AMD K6 setup in 2004.
I remember having a 3.0GHz P4 HT on Socket 478 and one on LGA775 back in the day.
Heck, I ran the 775 version of the 3.0GHz P4 HT with 2x1GB DDR2 sticks, a 1GB 9400GT (PCIe), 512MB 8400GS (PCI) & 256MB 7600GS (AGP) and Windows XP up until early-mid 2011 when I finally build an i7-2600K system.
Yes, I had 2GB SysRAM & 1.75GB combined VRAM with XP, and I ran a triple monitor (pair of 1280x1024 TFT's & a 1024x768 CRT) setup with 1 monitor off of each GPU (all VGA), and it ran the Star Trek Online (Closed) Beta like a dream at the time!
Now I'm in the middle of building a C2Q Q9505-powered system (was looking at the Q9650 on eBay at the time, but it wasn't worth shelling out for the extra 170MHz clock boost when I can gain that difference with overclocking the Q9505) with 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 & a 2GB GTX760 for playing XP-era games (with maybe some Vista/early-7 games), using a 128GB CompactFlash card on a CF-to-IDE adapter board to act as basically a PATA SSD, leaving the 4 SATA 3gbps ports free for future storage expansion.
Just need to get a new ~550W PSU (semi-modular, if not full-modular) to get it operational as most of the PSU's got free and floating around are either
How much extra power does that 641 gets from putting its box inside the computer?
+6
OK I have a few things to say.
1. I don't know if I should find pentium 4 good or bad. On the one hand the Pentium 4 was felt hotter than a heater, but on the other hand the Pentium 4 created the (still) bad pentium d, which, however, created the grEat core 2 duo.
2. BBO, again a awesome video. I am amazed that you "only" have 200000 subscribers. You deserved more.
3. Which operating system do you use privately? Thanks
1. The Core2Duo is closer to a Pentium M. It has no relation at all to a Pentium 4 or Pentium D
2. Cheers mate, 200k Special is in the works
3. I use whatever one wants to work best
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial ok thx
Even Intel realized how big of a failure the Netburst architecture was. At the time they had a separate team working on mobile CPU's. They came with the Pentium M and at a much lower clockspeed they humiliated the Intel desktop team. This was the moment Intel internally restructured the company. No more separated teams for mobile and desktop... Pentium M became the basis for the hugely successful Core 2 Duo.
The Core 2 Duo came from the Pentium M. Hence why its Core (2). It also came from Pentium 3.
Basically P3 -> PM -> C2D
The Pentium D was made so Intel had a "glued-on" competitor to AMD's Athlon X2 while Intel rushed the dev't of the Core 2 Duo from the Pentium M.
Funny how Intel is now in the same spot again, being squeezed by AMD's new Ryzen processors. But this time, they don't have any other architecture to rework with.
Keep it up, nice video clip, thank you for sharing it :)
Love the starting background music, Stroll On from Transport Tycoon Deluxe, aptly I played a ton of it on P4 processors :-D
I had one of the[ 540s] in... a LAPTOP! :D
HP ZD8000. Loved that little (it was massive) thing. :)
How much did it weigh?
@@tezcanaslan2877 Over 4kg! The carry case alone I still have to this day and that's near a kilo on i'ts own. Lol.
TechyBen Thats heavier than my Lenovo G580 from 2014 which is 3 KG approximately
True P4 are all on socket 478. This one is an impostor.
you forgot original iteration of NetBurst (Willamette) which is using socket 423
Nice to keep you warm
In NZ these were actually really common from release up until mid 2007. They were mainly shipped in either budget "business grade" machines running xp XP, or circa 2007 retail budget "vista basic" / "vista capable" home machines.
I remember helping a friend upgrade the RAM in some sort of HP Pavilion that had this chip, which shipped with vista and 512MB....
We bumped it up to something like 2.5GB and after removing the bloatware, it was fine for basic internet use and office tasks. This was 2009 or so, meaning the internet was far less media intensive and youtube was basically still all 480p.
I have played Terraria on a Pentium 4 631 and i reached the end game (i havent killed the final Boss because im bad at the game) It was in tge 1.3.5.
Btw It was a pain, but worth It. Because the game is awesome.
"still havent beaten the boss cause im bad"....honesty ftw 😁👍
my childhood was powered by the pentium 4
i'm still kinda sad about its demise
my first pc was an hp compaq running on a pentium 4 2.8 Ghz, 512 mb of ddr ram anda harddrive that had a whopping 40 gb of storage
Same. My first PC was a Windows XP 2002 Sony Vaio with a Pentium 4 2Ghz, 512 mb RAM, and an 80 gb hard drive. I still have it and it still works.
My first PC was a Gateway 820GM with a 2-thread Pentium 4 at 3 GHz, 1 whopping Gb of RAM, and an ultra powerful Radeon x300. It still works today.
my first PC that was my own was a Sony Vaio with a pentium 1 100mhz, 32mb of EDO ram, and a 1gb hdd lmfao. 28.8kbps modem...those were the days hahaha
I've only just been upgraded from a P4-based desktop at work 😬 there must still be tens of thousands of these machines still out there.
The Pentium 4 Prescott was the CPU is used in my first build. I remember It didn't run that hot with a proper cooler. (I used a Freezer 7 back then.)
Well I would say the Pentium 4 is just obsolete for 2020. At least a Core 2 Duo is the minimum basic still viable option for a cheap desktop.
sadly my hp dc7600 board doesn't support C2d eventho' it using LGA775 socket (running pentium D 945 instead), only dc7700 actually came stock with core2duo
I've seen windows 10 running surprisingly well on P4's and the lower powered laptop C2D, but a recent change that nixed intel on board grfx on the laptops has totally destroyed that useability. I know intel on board 2000 and 3000 have had their win10 drivers removed, despite them working just fine for ages. This happened just a few months ago. Absolutely nothing changed apart from either Microsoft or intel decided its time C2D laptop owners bought a new machine, as bad as apple enforced obsolescence
Good video man, and so the Pentium "series" shall end
Ya watch womble?
@@aidanatienza yeh
@@clusterhunt nice
Cool video I love em they help me understand what I'm buyin
Had a P4 "Prescott" 2.8 GHz 521 "HT" in a very hot Dell SFF Optiplex GX280 with a blower style CPU fan, 1 GB Blistering Hynix DDR2 and an ATi Radeon X300 SE, All on XP SP3 as a kid..
I murdered that poor Dell with soft body physics games like "Rigs of Rods" AKA "BeamNG.drive 1" and other games it definitely shouldn't have been playing.. Like HL2 and TF2..
Star Wars Jedi Knight Jedi Outcast II was the highpoint though.. Max settings, constant 60 FPS..
Although that PC ran so hot it literally made me sweat in FL summers, around 2008 - 2012 It's some of my fondest memories that I don't even get on my current PC build because i'm not a curious kid anymore.
Great video. Was always curious about the "last Cedar Mill P4's" about what I expected, very cool.
keep the package, it looks nice
Please make a 2020 review on legendary Athlon 64 fx 🙏
I've got a rare early Pentium 4 Willamette socket 423 2GHz in a box I built circa 2000. She still runs and serves as a garage computer running Linux.
I recall getting one of these in a retired server as a teenager. I distinctly recall getting 10-bit ("hdr") 2xxx something ("4k) resolution hitting damn near 60 in Portal 2 on my CRT, save for when I shot portals for the first time in an environment & it'd kill the pipeline for a solid second. The trick is to know how to optimize a windows xp installation until it's just network services & explorer running in like 70mb.
Preshott P4 🤣🤣
It was my first CPU, back in 2007. So many memories !
I just decommissioned a Pentium 4 631-based print server last year :)
Cedar Mill isn't like Prescott. It still ran very hot though lol. Now in my stash of old LGA775 processors
Hey, cool video.
Also, I'd like to suggest something. I remember hearing from RandomgaminginHD that if you have a serious CPU bottleneck with your games and not a GPU one, putting the resolution up may actually increase fps as there is more load on the GPU than CPU.
Depends entirely on title. If a game is really really struggling then it can sometimes give enough load to the GPU to even out the performance a bit.
Really though I test most settings and resolutions to give an ideal optimal setting dugong my benchmarks.
@@BudgetBuildsOfficial ah OK, thats good to know.
my 2004, 3.73 extreme with 660GTX bottlenecks with less res etc. But Only if you try running other programs. Frames per, run from 8 to 44 on most benchmark tests
These reviews are very cool. Thanks... you could use a vaccum cleaner on the motherboard and cpu cooler though :)
ahhhh, now this brings back a fond memory... I remember my best friend had an old PC with a P4 630 HT, it did not game at all so I decided to bring my Radeon HD6650 with me on a sleepover. I got it running and it managed to run Halo CE flawlessly, it felt so much better paired with a dedicated GPU.
I love the TTD music in background
thanks for info , senpai-san
Solid video, and solid watch. The CPU is cool and all, but I think that vintage 80s/90s Seiko 5 automatic watch he's wearing is a bit cooler.
I have fond memories of running a P4 3.2C @ 3.8GHz water cooled. I spent far too much money on the computer though, as not long after AGP became obsolete, and so did DDR1...
I remember how much my mom used to complain about it. I was also 5 years old tho. Man the years fly by
I can also vouche for the weather, especially if your pc is in a small room in the house, I live in a new build and my gaming pc even at idle is about 45-50c with Corsair H80 cooling it, during gaming sessions it's getting to 70c, which usually when the ambient temperature is lower in the house it's no more than 55-60c in the house. Oh and it's an oc'd ryzen 1600.
I was doing a lot of video and audio editing/converting at the time the 730 came out, so the netburst arch suited me well.
I got that baby up to 3.8GHz on water...and with an ECS A500 industrial mobo too.
The "cool" thing about the 65nm Intel Celeron D/Pentium 4/Pentium D is that they support the 64-bit versions of Windows 8.1 and Windows 10, the only Netburst processors ones that do, as they have some lesser-known instruction sets that 64-bit 8.1 and 10 require.
With the 90nm ones, you'd have to make do with the 32-bit versions of those, or instead use the 64-bit version of Windows 7, as along as they support it, as even then, only certain 90nm Intel CPUs support 64-bit operating systems at all.
While it's a bit hard to see at times, I believe your Pentium 4 HT 641 is the SL9KF revision, meaning it runs at a 65 watt TDP rather than the usual 86 watts, and very nearly the best Pentium 4 out there, price/power-to-performance wise. Still in the box new too! You lucked out with that one.
The Pentium 4 HTs starting from 90nm and smaller are still alright CPUs. They still can do tasks well enough even in Windows 8.1. Haven't tested out Windows 10, but I believe others have. Overall it's still usable if one can tolerate the occasional stutter. It's not worth it when there are far better options are there that are even cheaper, run less hot, use less energy, and give much better performance in basically every task. But if one desperately needed a cheap used desktop without regard for its other specs and one finds it still uses at least a 90nm Pentium 4 HT and other options aren't available for whatever reason... it could be worse.
Just stay away from most gaming.
I played a Dota 2 match on a Pentium 4 HT 630 with a GeForce 210... 15 fps avg with drops to 3 fps at 900p is not a pleasant experience. The Pentium 4 actually bottlenecks the 210.
I had a P4 640, was pretty good for the time, hyperthreading didn't do much at the time, but you could run windows XP 64bit. and encoding video was pretty quick.
Nice video, lol imma a bit late.
Btw nice watch, what is it?
I can't remember what pentium 4 type I had, must have been the last batches as I was still playing WoW with a p4 in 2007, until the cpu cooler stopped working and in the same time two cooler holders snapped from the motherboard. the card went in smoke for a second. but for the time it had a pretty nice performance.
I still have a rarely-used XP-only Pentium 4 640 machine. IIRC it was among the first Intel chips supporting the AMD64 instruction set, but Intel worked from slightly old AMD64 documents and ended up missing out an instruction or two (though nothing really necessary - 64-bit software at the time just avoided using them). Now I'm curious if that was fixed for the 641, or if it was purely a die-shrink with all errors and omissions preserved.
I remember when i bought a P4 D 805 because it was the sleeper overclocker before Core 2 Duos took over the market and came down in price. Slapped a Zalman Copper 9500 on it at the time and it ran over the pricepoint for both the CPU and heatsink easily against higher priced P4's at the time
Throw it into the dust bin together with this video. Elite old gamer have spoken.
This takes me back
I love the orange color on these boxes…reminds me of Ryzen a bit :)
My first CPU, loved it!
What surprises more than anything is how good GTA V looks at 240p. That is mid 80s resolution for games.
I didn't have a P4 at this time, I don't remember what I had. Technically I still owned (and still do) my Pentium 4m based laptop from 2002, but in Autumn of 2005 I bought a desktop and I just can't remember what it had other than the X-Fi (?) Soundblaster. Funny how memory can play tricks on you. But it definitely didn't have a Pentium 4 of any variation. The Pentium 4m was good for when released, though that system even by the time of Splinter Cell (Windows) was released started showing its age. Also partly I guess to its good, but quickly outclassed Radeon 7500m. By the time Juiced was released in 2005, it had to be retired.
Probably nothing to do with this specific CPU as they are not exactly the same, but whatever. :)
Thank you for another fun video.
BTW, that was not dust, that was a desert inside that PC.
I got something similar (used) in my first computer when I was 14, around 2010, so I could finally try linux. (Before that I shared a computer with the family.) It was probably before the die shrink though, because it overheated during kernel compilations on summers, but I was happy to be able to try 64 bit OSes.
keep good work new videos 😊
i dunno why, but the guy on the Intel 'Leap Ahead' sticker reminds me of an Arch-Vile
Ah the old orange box. Those seemed so futuristic
I have a Pentium 4 631, the stepping with a 65W TDP. The only reason being that I couldn't find an i865 AGP board with dual floppy support that also took a Core 2 Duo (it was a "just for fun" project I wanted to document at the time). It performs ok-ish but I'd prefer to have a Core 2 in there.
Hey man, what watch are you rocking in this vid?
I enjoyed putting one of theses on water cooling and overclocking them to high speed.
12:23 I like how there is little fly investigating the polished turd 4. Nice aesthetics.