Stellaris 3.12 Ascension Perks Tier List

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    Stellaris Ascension Perks explained and ranked into a tier list. Lets look at all of the Ascension Perks available in Stellaris, work out their benefits and drawbacks, then compare them.
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    0:00 What Are Ascension Perks?
    1:16 F Tier
    8:23 C Tier
    13:12 B Tier
    20:26 A Tier
    26:11 S Tier
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  • @MontuPlays
    @MontuPlays  Місяць тому +27

    Wishlist Sins of a Solar Empire 2 on Steam NOW & support this channel: steam.gs/l/157jf/MontuPlays

    • @schroecat1
      @schroecat1 Місяць тому

      Stardock sponsoring a Stellaris video seems like a mischievous decision. Not sure that these games are compatible. XD

    • @EmpReb
      @EmpReb Місяць тому +1

      @@schroecat1 I'm a Sins fan that has Crack addiction when I play Stellaris You can love both.

    • @joshua211111
      @joshua211111 Місяць тому

      Excited for Sins of the Prophets 2 mod for this

    • @cnm7558
      @cnm7558 Місяць тому

      compatible

    • @GilAzuara
      @GilAzuara Місяць тому

      dude, i have a new build you should try, I called them the prime matrix
      specie: mechanical
      traits: adaptive frames, art generators and efficient processors
      origin: arc wielders
      ethos and civs: machine intelligence, guardian matrix and unitary cohesion
      ruler trait: spark of genius
      playstyle: unity rush until year 30 or until you get the virtual trad tree
      fill main planet with uplink nodes within first 10 years
      unity rush from start
      first trad tree: prosperity
      first AP: imperial prerogative
      second trad tree: synchronisity
      second AP: tech ascendancy
      third trad tree: aptitude
      third AP: synchronisity
      fourth trad tree: virtual
      fourth AP: cosmogenesis
      colonize 2 habitable planets after year 2210
      fill one with uplink nodes
      fill second one with energy and industrial disctricts along with blue districts to build research labs
      once you have the virtual trad tree, change the virtual focus policy to focus on unity generation
      unlock the rest of trad trees
      fifth trad tree: expansion
      fifth AP: mechromancy or archaeotech depending on your relics income
      sixth trad tree: discovery
      sisth AP: master builders or galactic wonders if you have the prerequisites for it
      seventh trad tree: unyielding
      seventh AP: eternal vigilance
      as u can see, this build combines the magnolia build with a 0% empire size from pops if you pick OTA updates as your third civic, combining it with the benefits of arc wielders origin gives a massive boost to your economy, turning mining districts irrelevant

  • @Konzon
    @Konzon Місяць тому +365

    The real endgame crisis is the empire that took xenocompatability. If they don't get defeated fast enough, the galaxy gets destroyed by lag.

    • @aecides3203
      @aecides3203 Місяць тому +17

      Once I would have agreed with you, but all I'm hearing now is "More Synaptic cogitators for the Lathe"

    • @wewuzkangz2505
      @wewuzkangz2505 Місяць тому

      100%. There's always this one fucking guy, who just sits there in the corner and has immigration open with literally everyone.

    • @florians9949
      @florians9949 Місяць тому +11

      Sentry array: finally a worthy oponent, our lag battle shall be legendary!

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus 5 днів тому

      @@aecides3203 The ultimate way of processing undesirables.

    • @vicenteabalosdominguez5257
      @vicenteabalosdominguez5257 2 дні тому

      The true way to crash the simulation.

  • @cheesebiscuits6323
    @cheesebiscuits6323 Місяць тому +564

    I can’t believe he forgot to mention xeno compatibility

    • @agntsmth94
      @agntsmth94 Місяць тому +171

      If I can't win, no one can
      *Freezes the game*

    • @infantrytactics1233
      @infantrytactics1233 Місяць тому +20

      He did.
      17:28

    • @cheesebiscuits6323
      @cheesebiscuits6323 Місяць тому +40

      @@infantrytactics1233 I know. I am well aware.

    • @duyas1628
      @duyas1628 Місяць тому +31

      We do not speak of the evil one.

    • @desertfawx2093
      @desertfawx2093 Місяць тому +17

      @@infantrytactics1233you didn’t watch the whole video or you would get why he said that

  • @classreductionist
    @classreductionist Місяць тому +276

    Fun fact: You can hire a Large Marauder fleet for 10k energy credits and then convert them into a Mercenary fleet in your empire saving yourself 50 Fleet Cap worth of alloys.

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Місяць тому +28

      .... thats a very fast way of getting an entire merc enclave empire up. I'll use that for my 10 year rush merc enclave games. 5 merc enclaves up by 2215 is very strong. xD

    • @user-he4pk4tg2i
      @user-he4pk4tg2i Місяць тому +11

      ​@@archmagemc3561 You can't hire marauder mercs till midgame though

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Місяць тому

      @@user-he4pk4tg2i Oh, so it takes until 2225, fair enough.

    • @classreductionist
      @classreductionist Місяць тому +12

      @@user-he4pk4tg2i true. It's still really nice when the GC passes Security Contractors and you can then immediately found a Merc Enclave for essentially zero alloys.

    • @cstains5543
      @cstains5543 Місяць тому +6

      Or you can find the Tinker enclave and do the same for around 8K to 12K depending on what's available and get it done before midgame. Either works though.

  • @cjwarrington177
    @cjwarrington177 Місяць тому +88

    I wish there were more ascension perks that were situationally the absolute nuts. Like, eff it, make Archaeo-engineers -90% artifacts cost and +50% archaeotech weapons damage. Have it grant access to a special ship class or hull configuration. Make me want to pick that perk whenever I randomly find myself sitting on a bunch of minor artifact deposits. It would still be garbage 9/10 games, but that one game where it absolutely pops off would be so much more memorable.

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers Місяць тому +8

      but than it has to be incompatible with nanite ships and crisis ships

  • @blahmaster6k
    @blahmaster6k Місяць тому +130

    Remember that Crisis ships and nanite ships don't need minor artifacts, so archaotech weapons are completely free for those builds. That is the real context I would give for a scenario where archao engineers is good.

    • @ryorai5804
      @ryorai5804 Місяць тому +6

      Big brain moment

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Місяць тому +12

      Also if you get the rubricator then funding the minor artifacts is actually rather easy plus the extra extra damage you get from the passive.

    • @marknezanuto
      @marknezanuto Місяць тому +10

      ​@@MasterElementsrubricator is not enough to found respectable fleet size with arceotech unless you are menace.

    • @gmradio2436
      @gmradio2436 Місяць тому

      Are we going to eventually get the rest of the tempest ship?

    • @AMPS1
      @AMPS1 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Sepaedius I don't think that's possible, the nano missiles are only for s slots while the nanite swarmers only m slots have. But the swarmers with hangars are op too.

  • @NuggetWorkshop
    @NuggetWorkshop Місяць тому +21

    F TIER
    1:35 Archaeo-Engineers
    3:36 Executive Vigor
    4:31 Detox
    5:21 Interstellar Dominion
    5:51 Shared Destiny
    7:01 Transcendent Learning
    7:40 Enigmatic Engineering
    C TIER
    8:32 Consecrated Worlds
    9:57 Hydrocentric
    11:06 Mastery of Nature
    11:55 Universal Transactions
    12:42 Grasp the Void
    B TIER
    13:22 Eternal Vigilance
    14:05 Lord of War
    15:13 Mechromancy
    16:03 Voidborne
    17:05 [REDACTED]
    18:57 World Shaper
    19:44 Galactic Contender
    A TIER
    20:45 Galactic Wonders
    22:09 Imperial Prerogative
    23:13 Nihilistic Acquisition
    23:50 Technological Ascendancy
    24:14 Galactic Force Projection
    25:18 Engineered Evolution
    S TIER
    26:47 One Vision
    28:05 Arcology Project
    29:11 Hive Worlds
    29:35 Machine Worlds
    30:09 Master Builders
    30:55 Colossus Project
    32:30 Defender of the Galaxy
    33:40 Cosmogenesis
    ^ Galactic Nemesis
    35:15 The Flesh is Weak
    ^ Organo-Machine Interfacing
    ^ Mind over Matter
    36:03 Synthetic Evolution

  • @aptspire
    @aptspire Місяць тому +96

    The only way to pull a large archeofleet is by putting a Dyson Swarm around the "Message in a Bottle" star. It gives 60+ minor artifacts monthly.

    • @spookyaction3236
      @spookyaction3236 Місяць тому +10

      Wow nice tip. I didn't realize the artifacts were on the star in that system.

    • @robguy8501
      @robguy8501 Місяць тому +10

      That is an awesome thing I didn't know you could do. The other way you can field a lot of archeotech ships is by becoming the galactic nemesis as their menacing ship types only cost minerals regardless of what you outfit them with. Although the slots available on them keep you from installing large amounts of the more powerful weapons you can still fill up with all many of cool toys that would normally be too expensive to be practical.

    • @louiswinterhoff334
      @louiswinterhoff334 Місяць тому +2

      Are you serious???

    • @Ramschat
      @Ramschat Місяць тому +13

      Cool, but that's NOT the only way.
      Crisis ships and Nanotech ships will never cost minor artefacts no matter how many archeotech modules you put on them

  • @WillCarter1976
    @WillCarter1976 Місяць тому +36

    The only xeno compatibility in my playthroughs, is how compatible the the xeno flesh is with our flamethrowers!

  • @DarthChratis
    @DarthChratis Місяць тому +22

    Anyone remember back when mastery of nature was a broken auto pick?
    It gave you all of the blocker techs instantly and for free, letting you skip an entire tech lvl and removing a buch of dud techs from the pool.

  • @Argenomius
    @Argenomius Місяць тому +33

    I need to point out that Mastery of Nature does reduce the cost of blockers on Shattered Ring, but can't increase the number of districts once you repair the Ring completely

    • @jonrwert
      @jonrwert Місяць тому +8

      Mastery of Nature might be a little more appealing with the Relic World origin, too. Well, slightly.

  • @Cybermarth
    @Cybermarth Місяць тому +24

    The Archeo-Engineers are in my opinion only worth the trouble when you get the event/digsite on the sun that gives you 1-3 Artifacts. Then make a Dyson Swarm around it and it is at least a thought as a ascension perk.
    Edit: I forgot one detail: The idea is that the dyson swarm array enhance extremly the production of your star. NOW when you have minor artifacts on the sun they also get enhanced and yes I had twice already fun with +93 Artifacts from that one star.

  • @MrDeflador
    @MrDeflador Місяць тому +76

    Important thing for Consecrated worlds. If you are next to the spiritual Fallen Empire, I think this perk goes up to b, maybe even a because you cannot have a colony on these worlds anyway and they give a ton of Unity.

    • @jamesparson1233
      @jamesparson1233 Місяць тому +18

      you also get an opinion boost with the fallen empire so they might start giving gifts

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Місяць тому +13

      @@jamesparson1233 Xenophile and guardian of the galaxy, I think you can get BLUE with the spiritaulist empire doing this. At that point they give gifts like crazy and may even let you inhabit those gaia worlds.

    • @kennyholmes5196
      @kennyholmes5196 Місяць тому +11

      Or, you know, get lucky and obtain the head of Zarqlan.

    • @Jallorn
      @Jallorn Місяць тому +2

      Also, as KotTG it's a straight upgrade to One Vision, since you can consecrate holy worlds out of toxic planets

  • @timothypeterson4781
    @timothypeterson4781 Місяць тому +54

    I'd suggest one caveat on Grasp The Void. As a gestalt consciousness it's a good grab early because you can use it to subsidize your energy with solar then later into a nice little navy boost so I'd say for gestalt it's up to B for it's flexibility. But for normal empires certainly. I'd like to say it's very... Compatible with gestalt empires.

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Місяць тому +2

      It is also very compatible with Astro Mining Drones gestalt civic, as that civic gives +50% more starbase cap. I have an Arc furnace origin build with astro mining drones and it's amazing.

    • @timothypeterson4781
      @timothypeterson4781 Місяць тому

      @@MasterElements Ahh, yes didn't think of that here. I thought of that when I was playing around with Astro Mining (on a ring world just to see how much it screwed you over (answer, a lot.))

    • @cecilofs
      @cecilofs Місяць тому

      @@MasterElements Is it feasible to get enough energy for Nanite Harvesters without using Tech Drones?

    • @MasterElements
      @MasterElements Місяць тому

      @@cecilofs In the beginning? No you will need to invest in Capacity Subsidies and some tech drone jobs, but once you get some dyson swarms online on some good stars then you should be fine. Though that is a bit RNG, I would also suggest becoming a prospectorium as the random resource deposits will boost your economy immensely.

  • @TC-cq7oc
    @TC-cq7oc Місяць тому +76

    I think there was a patch where cosmogenesis is now completely in-compatible with galactic custodian. In my most recent playthrough, I was barred from proposing a resolution to make myself Custodian - though perhaps I could have become custodian still if another empire proposed it.

    • @TheFinalEvent97
      @TheFinalEvent97 Місяць тому +13

      Yep, having already taken Cosmogenesis in my playthrough I couldn't propose for my empire to become the Custodian due to the level of scrutiny would reveal what the empire was up to. Stellaris wiki also says Emperor/Custodian is banned from taking Cosmogenesis so it can't be done the other way round either.

    • @cecilofs
      @cecilofs Місяць тому +7

      @@TheFinalEvent97 Don't worry all those pops I took are perfectly fine. They are currently having a great time on a planet I have called "The Lathe". No you can't visit them, they are very busy.

    • @AbsoluteZero101
      @AbsoluteZero101 Місяць тому +2

      What about if you propose the resolution to become GC first and then immediately pick up cosmogenesis. It would still be in the queue no?

    • @derpidius6306
      @derpidius6306 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@AbsoluteZero101Maybe, but why wait? Personally I've been trying to egg on the AI to be custodian so I could try to get the achievement for overthrowing the galactic emperor

    • @Jallorn
      @Jallorn Місяць тому +1

      @@AbsoluteZero101 No, I've tried, it invalidates the proposal and cancels the voting period.

  • @themeerkat5157
    @themeerkat5157 Місяць тому +91

    virtual is so broken, literally allows you to instantly get the most powerful resource in the whole game: pops

    • @BARBARBINKLE
      @BARBARBINKLE Місяць тому +9

      It’s easily the most op thing this game has ever seen. I like the concept of it but it needs a LOT more downsides to balance it out. You honestly shouldn’t be able to rush it so quick imo.

    • @Evert1992
      @Evert1992 Місяць тому +6

      I just did a playthrough with virtuality.
      I didn't even do the midgame, i was already bored and ready for the Endgame.
      But not on hardest difficulty, so im gonna do that later.
      But it really is very op.
      2 ecumenopolis and a cybrex ringworld.
      So so so op 😂

    • @BARBARBINKLE
      @BARBARBINKLE Місяць тому +1

      @@Evert1992 I don’t even play with it even tho I like the concept of a matrix themed empire just cause it’s so strong that it makes the game boring imo

    • @Evert1992
      @Evert1992 Місяць тому

      ​@@BARBARBINKLEi totally get that.
      Like i said i wasn't even in the midgame and was already getting close to repeatable techs 😂
      Maybe with gigastructual engineering and on extreme difficulty can it be made challenging, but even that i doubt.

    • @tribsta1018
      @tribsta1018 Місяць тому +5

      I love the concept. I just hope they don’t ruin the idea when they nerf it into the ground. I never play the meta and always play RP builds. I like playing tall and wanted my imported leaders so why I like it. As long as they keep the idea after the nerfs I will still play it

  • @nathanwells4809
    @nathanwells4809 Місяць тому +7

    Detox should be a tech

  • @charlieblocher7456
    @charlieblocher7456 Місяць тому +11

    Mastery of Nature is really good for Standard Empires, since adding resource districts for food/energy/minerals is very useful when you are subject to RNG for basic resources availability.

    • @JaJDoo
      @JaJDoo Місяць тому +3

      one of my favorite first pick options

    • @DreadDoom
      @DreadDoom Місяць тому +1

      Nah it's a waste, a single tributary will give you many more basic resources than two extra districts on all of your planets will, especially since you need 4-6 pops to work those jobs as well on each planet, AND pay the influence + energy cost. Spending that eco on getting a fleet and taking a tributary, and then spending that perk on something more worth-while is a much more efficient strategy.

    • @charlieblocher7456
      @charlieblocher7456 Місяць тому +1

      @@DreadDoom If you pick the right planets, you'll get many more than two districts.
      And a tributary is a boost, if you're in a militant play through, but unless you just don't need to produce your own resources, it would still be a potential pick.

    • @DreadDoom
      @DreadDoom Місяць тому

      @@charlieblocher7456 It increases planet size by 2, i.e. 2 districts. How could it be more? If you are referring to the +50% that just increases the per-district-type limit, it will not increase the maximum number of districts on a planet, e.g. if a planet is size 10 and has a cap of 18 energy districts (one of my planets had this) you can still only build 10 energy districts, since planet size is 10.
      So at best it could be 2 districts + 1 building slot if you have something like Agrarian Idyll or Master Crafters and it just happens to put you over the 3 districts needed, but you still need to fill all those jobs with pops.
      It is always just straight-up worse than a tributary unless you are an empire that cannot have vassals.

    • @charlieblocher7456
      @charlieblocher7456 Місяць тому +1

      @@DreadDoom I'm talking about the planetary features. You almost never get a planet that is, say, Size 10 with 14 energy districts. It's not impossible, but the RNG is super low, especially without events (like from Terraforming) to add extra districts.
      What you usually get are planets size 10 to 20 with 4 to 8 energy, food, and/or mineral districts. It makes it harder and more costly to develop and specialize those worlds, which you can only really optimize for two types and fully enhance for one.
      Plus, once you do invest in a resource world, you want as many pops working for that resource as possible.
      If you have a planet with 8 mineral or energy districts, that going to be 20 jobs with normal buildings. Mastery of nature with give you four more districts, and now you have 12 districts, so 28 jobs. That's 8 more jobs that will fully benefit from that planet's buildings, governor, orbital ring, and/or ascension bonuses, and without having to increase your empire size by colonizing another world.
      You may be in a situation where you just don't have worlds with many districts of one type or another, and getting a 50% boost is incredibly helpful. Dyson Swarms and Arc Welders help, but at a certain point you just need pops working jobs, unless you can steam roll and dominate a collection of vassals early on.

  • @henrywill124
    @henrywill124 Місяць тому +10

    I really feel like Eternal Vigilance needs to grant an upgrade to the Citadel, like a Star Citadel or something since most of the bonuses can be acquired with repeatable techs. That can make it compatible with something in the A tier.

    • @jojossniper
      @jojossniper Місяць тому +4

      An upgrade to the citadel would be really cool for a defensive empire,I imagine a tech like that to be gated behind eternal vigilance,also it would be cool if eternal vigilance would be gated behind the unyielding tradition and the galactic projection behind supremacy.

    • @jacobp.2024
      @jacobp.2024 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jojossniper Three things need to happen for citadel defenses to be viable.
      1. Citadel designs - citadel's *need* to be able to be edited, and maybe receive different kinds of hulls with different weapon options. Half the issue with them is that they just.. Take whatever weapons it feels like, and they're usually not good ones.
      2. Debuffs on enemy fleets - citadels should have more options to make combat unfavorable in the systems they're located in, or at least narrow what tactics will be effective. Debuffs to the enemy would scale well and provide some utility to forcing engagement of the enemy in a starbase system, aside from a negligible amount of added DPS. The modifiers should be telegraphed, but be decisive if not worked around.
      3. late-game scaling - they just.. Are never quite as useful as they are early game ever again. That early game 3k starbase can be a game changer, but after that? Nope. It's more of a liability than anything, since a powerful starbase ends up being a liability against more powerful foes, as they WILL be captured and they will bottleneck an inferior fleet.
      4. less punishing to be captured - all that needs to be said. Putting weapon installations or using starbases defensively is just.. An awful idea currently. They do as much to defend you as they will to help entrench your enemy as they push into your territory. They should not be as much of an asset to the enemy as they are to you, but that's how it is. I don't know how they'd change this, but it should probably be changed if starbases aren't meant to be like this.

  • @ryorai5804
    @ryorai5804 Місяць тому +10

    Important info you missed (unless I didnt hear it) consecrated worlds can make toxic worlds holy worlds if youre using knights of the toxic gods.

    • @kalebbradford143
      @kalebbradford143 Місяць тому +2

      sheesh that origin has so much for being so benign in extra power

    • @sirgaz8699
      @sirgaz8699 Місяць тому

      So it can be a toxic world that doesn't have terraforming candidate? That's actually pretty good.

    • @ryorai5804
      @ryorai5804 Місяць тому

      @@sirgaz8699 correct, any toxic world

  • @wdavid4
    @wdavid4 Місяць тому

    I like how all of these tier rankings fit together so well, like a fully compatible list of best choices to make. Thanks for all this effort!

  • @osloares630
    @osloares630 Місяць тому +5

    Finally, been waiting for this list for a week

  • @Demonling
    @Demonling Місяць тому +1

    And today I was wondering when we would get a Montu video soon. Praise be Montu! Pretty compatible with a good mood ;)

  • @Lolztrel
    @Lolztrel Місяць тому +1

    Your videos are highly compatible with my interets :-) Thank you for all your amazing content!

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Місяць тому

    This video was very compatible with my need to know more about the perks in this game thank you! Which I love to plot my games around this!

  • @caffize3919
    @caffize3919 Місяць тому +4

    If you go for Whisperer of the Void + Subterfuge + Enigmatic Engineering, you can get stealth level 6 or 7 battleships and titans, which can be really powerful.

  • @DustyChapter
    @DustyChapter Місяць тому +2

    Will say, there is *one* situation i love Interstellar Dominion for. If you have alot of territory to gobble up earlygame when playing "Under One Rule", it can be a great way of getting a bunch more starbases built for the sake of the Luminary Buff.

  • @kervensdor5590
    @kervensdor5590 Місяць тому +10

    I can't believe Transcendent Learning is not compatible with Montu Plays’s playlist

  • @hellos2youse
    @hellos2youse Місяць тому +2

    New Monty video = new playthrough from what I learn ❤

  • @Afarensus
    @Afarensus Місяць тому

    These videos of yours are super compatible with my taste!

  • @ocelotkillalot4632
    @ocelotkillalot4632 Місяць тому

    Ty for this guides man insane I learn a lot

  • @sullivanzany8091
    @sullivanzany8091 Місяць тому

    Thank you for this video I always appreciate your thoughts and discussion.

  • @dahakaxx95
    @dahakaxx95 29 днів тому

    I watch every single one of these tier lists you make, it helps me a lot! Tho I never used Xeno compatibility.

  • @Maxpell.classic
    @Maxpell.classic Місяць тому

    Thank for great work 😀!

  • @Jernsaxe
    @Jernsaxe Місяць тому +3

    Mecromancy have another important benefit if you are playing Rogue Servitor. Normally you are unable to purge biological pops and they get forced into being bio trophies. If you get too many bio pops early it can tank your economy, especially since bio trophies have been nerfed quite a bit.
    So taking Mecromancy as Rogue Servitor can be a powerful way to clear out the chaff and get some extra workers instead.

  • @calmgood-hh9zp
    @calmgood-hh9zp 15 днів тому

    Thank you very much for the video.I really enjoyed it.😊

  • @TheBronzeDog
    @TheBronzeDog Місяць тому

    Looks like I'm shifting some of my first picks to be more compatible with the updates. Thanks for putting this up.

  • @melbifk
    @melbifk Місяць тому

    Crazy! List after list.

  • @blackshiinobi1777
    @blackshiinobi1777 Місяць тому

    Your videos are the reason I play Stellaris, thank you very much. We need a video about Starbases and Defense platform designs.

  • @NightHunter571
    @NightHunter571 Місяць тому

    Montu’s videos are always compatible with a relaxing evening

  • @Potatojiggle
    @Potatojiggle 23 дні тому

    Thanks for your up to date video again. I made it to the secret callout.

  • @michaelappleby3622
    @michaelappleby3622 Місяць тому

    would love to see a video on what the good ship sets nowadays are, I haven't really played since spamming neutron launchers was the meta, and I just have no idea which weapons are compatible or just the best anymore. Super helpful vid!

  • @Zalnos7
    @Zalnos7 Місяць тому

    Thanks, Montu. The video is perfectly compatible with listening while I scrub the stove.

  • @paulcatindig2260
    @paulcatindig2260 Місяць тому +3

    Mr Montu, I sure do hope that the renowned and legendary paragons tier list is compatible with your schedule soon!

  • @DamenJoost
    @DamenJoost Місяць тому +1

    Seeing Sins 2 makes me happy. Will dive in at some point during the year but too busy now.

    • @MontuPlays
      @MontuPlays  Місяць тому

      it's not out on steam just yet anyway!

  • @theinnkeeper1340
    @theinnkeeper1340 Місяць тому +1

    Why is your voice so soothing and relaxing lol

    • @sethroseblood9456
      @sethroseblood9456 Місяць тому

      So true I almost don't even mind when he has to shill

  • @Tahsaray
    @Tahsaray Місяць тому +3

    Hell yeah, Pantheon reference! I love that show, some of the best sci fi in forever.

  • @colorblindwizard7200
    @colorblindwizard7200 Місяць тому +2

    I would have put an addendum for Lord of War for the new Tactical Algorithms Civic, as you gain 10% Shield Hardening for each Merc Enclave, I have tested it out and man can you stack hardening to crazy numbers.

  • @Konzon
    @Konzon Місяць тому +4

    Remember back when Shared Destiny reduced subject integration cost?

    • @OnlineKenji
      @OnlineKenji Місяць тому

      I remember when it was actually worth a crap. Now it is near the bottom of f-tier imo

  • @Roman-bk5wn
    @Roman-bk5wn Місяць тому +3

    Xeno compatibility you might be sleeping on - what about on spiritualist (or no robots) - max out pop growth through the ascension perk with migration treaties?

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Місяць тому +2

    fun fact you can still chose defender of the galaxy and a crysis perk. but you have to pick the defender perk first, since the crisis perks dont check wether or not you took defender of the galaxy

  • @reaperking2121
    @reaperking2121 22 дні тому

    As someone who loves playing a Star Trek type Earth Xeno Compatabillity is one of my go toos for the exact reasons you gave . It means I don’t have to force an entire empire down the path of bio transference but still can reap the rewards of playing as a peaceful paragon with undress of species in my empire

  • @tararose5650
    @tararose5650 4 дні тому

    Xeno compatibility... seriously your description was riding the line, too funny XD

  • @rekrn12345
    @rekrn12345 Місяць тому +2

    3:00 the astral thread policy can give you a flat 5 minor artifacts per month. Its not much but it can easily double your income and astral threads kinda fall off later and you dont need many.

    • @TheFinalEvent97
      @TheFinalEvent97 Місяць тому +1

      Plus the Rubricator has an active effect of giving 500 minor artifacts which is equivalent to roughly +4 per month for 10 years, and one of it's passive effect is a 15% boost to Archaeotech Weapon Damage.

    • @rekrn12345
      @rekrn12345 Місяць тому +1

      @@TheFinalEvent97 Can't really guarantee you get the rubricator in any run though.

  • @RagnellAvalon
    @RagnellAvalon 23 дні тому

    Something to be mindful about with Consecrete World is that if you are next to the Holy Guardians Fallen Empire, choosing to consecrate one of their Holy Worlds will give you a **+30** opinion buff with them for each one you consecrate, which can get them completely on your side. If you were thinking about unity rushing anyway this is a huge boost, but in niche scenarios it might be worth doing just to get periodic gifts, especially since they can include rare technologies.
    I don't think that makes it better than C tier but it's an interesting opportunity that can be compatible with a lot of styles, since only the situation matters.

  • @panzerjaeger016
    @panzerjaeger016 Місяць тому

    21:22 I think that what is often forgotten for Dyson Spheres is that Stars get a massive output boost.
    Which can include Research, stacking that on a Physics Star, can give quite a bit of research and put one ahead of the competition.
    Also, it’s very compatible 😉

  • @sirgaz8699
    @sirgaz8699 Місяць тому +1

    I really like Mastery of Nature even on wide because when I go wide I don't make duel use planets just to save on micro and MoN lets me get +50% out of a world.
    Edit: after they added trust to diplomacy I have never had an empire accept a commercial pact before allowing an embassy, the balance team should probably look at that.
    Edit 2: Xeno-compatibility is best on Overtuned Cyborgs as it lets you take all 3 auto-moding traits though I'd only ever take it if I had a mod that removed half breeds and just gives you the trait point and pick.

  • @cstains5543
    @cstains5543 Місяць тому +1

    I don't know what settings Montu plays on but on average I find around 10 to 15 Toxic worlds just in one quadrant of the total galaxy and I've had over 25 Toxic worlds in just my empire alone before late game mass expansion in some playthroughs. So Detox really comes down to total number of recoverable worlds If you've got less than 5 it's an F tier, around 10 it's C, 15 to 24 B and if you've got over 25 it's definitely A tier.
    I play on huge galaxies, so that probably effects total weight of the Detox perk as I've have games where 've found six toxic terraformable worlds just in my core district.
    Also if you hunt down the various learning bonuses (adding Heroic Past, using the orb touched as your Storyteller meaning he'll eventually be a permanent level 10 adding 20%) and Vaults of Knowledge (after building the Vault of Knowledge itself adds +1% leadership XP gain per new legendary leader), taking both as Council positions, adding Transcendent learning on top, plus the Neural tissue tech from the wormhole system with the insane Psionic entity, before the Vault added boost, with the Quick Learners I believe you can get to around an 80% boost to leadership XP for every leader in your empire before adding in the Vaults of Knowledge bonus which will only increase as more leaders reach legendary status.

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Місяць тому +1

    with the new +2 jobs per district on machine worlds i used toxic Terraforming and got an additional 6 colonies with 16-24 planet Size. i was just lucky to have 6 of them in my 14 systems wide empire. and with them being of a dcend size and the ability to double the jobs per district with machine worlds and extra job output through orbital rings it was just the Beter pic for me than habitats. But yes generaly habitat ascention is normaly better than toxic terraforming.

  • @PayAttEx
    @PayAttEx Місяць тому

    I took Detox in my current game for the first time since I came around multiple Toxic size 20+ planets and I also had the ability from Relics and Paragon to turn them into Gaia. Basically Detox gave me access to the biggest planets in my space and in turn that's several size 20+ Gaia planets that come online in the first 100 years.

  • @disnark
    @disnark Місяць тому

    I’ve played with consecrated worlds in games where I start with a number of sub-30% planets in my area, which I imagine is the intended way to use it. If they adjusted the numbers up even slightly, I think it would be REALLY good.

  • @echofoxgaming7334
    @echofoxgaming7334 Місяць тому

    I always forget you do the secret callouts and I love them every time! I think they’re very compatible with your style (wink wink)

  • @AHoardyBoi
    @AHoardyBoi Місяць тому +5

    Going to get that ascended like button first

  • @frankieortiz1490
    @frankieortiz1490 Місяць тому

    Yes l was waiting for this Compatible

  • @Cosmic0508_SC
    @Cosmic0508_SC Місяць тому +2

    I don’t think I’m compatible with the amount of content Montu has been putting out lately, it’s too good for my xeno brain :)

  • @michaelfranke3407
    @michaelfranke3407 Місяць тому

    I really like how 'compatible' the hydrocentric perk is with terraforming weapons.

  • @PerfectAlibi1
    @PerfectAlibi1 Місяць тому +1

    Archaeo-Engineers, I once had a minor artefact income 30+!
    And I would constantly get a full storage of the things...
    So stacking a few reduction modifiers, it allowed me to build several fleets with the fancy weapons ^^

    • @Kl0zi9999
      @Kl0zi9999 Місяць тому

      That's the thing though, you 'once' had it, for general it wouldn't be valid, but if you did it could be worth it.

  • @andromedach
    @andromedach Місяць тому

    Given the rankings it would be interesting to see which AP you would choose from first through fifth based on empire type. I still think Grasp the Void has use for machine empires

  • @aze94
    @aze94 Місяць тому

    I think you could have mentioned that the consecrate world perk has unique effects with the knights of the toxic god origin, namely that you can consecrate toxic worlds into holy worlds. This grants a huge unity boost.

  • @ScorpioneOrzion
    @ScorpioneOrzion Місяць тому

    3:35 archeotech is also above F tier if and only if you have the rubicator as well, offsets the cost a lot

  • @letsplaysvonaja1714
    @letsplaysvonaja1714 27 днів тому

    I like how you mention all the advantages of virtual without mentioning any of the drawbacks and restrictions XD

  • @jaykolokithas9329
    @jaykolokithas9329 Місяць тому

    Master of nature has the upside of letting you commit more districts to a single worker type. You can specialize whole planets district to just mining generator or food as needed and can be very nice there.

  • @VorTheRhino
    @VorTheRhino Місяць тому

    I was looking for this video yesterday. Weird!

  • @VoidBetween
    @VoidBetween Місяць тому +1

    Note Consecrate Worlds is a bit more compatible for Knight of the Toxic God as they have a high chance to get max rewards from Consecrating otherwise useless toxic worlds.

  • @gorgeousfreeman1318
    @gorgeousfreeman1318 Місяць тому

    Would love to see how Individualist Machines change the meta on machine traits!

  • @BridgeFairy
    @BridgeFairy Місяць тому

    If you are doing a turtle build Archaeotech becomes A~ i think. It automatically equips the your star-base's with improved archaeotech components. It may sound silly but there are a lot of times where you loose games by a thin margin when your fortress falls ^^

  • @the_luckiest_charm
    @the_luckiest_charm Місяць тому +1

    You should make a Relic tier list. I no theres not really a point, since their completely random, and therefore have no opportunity cost, but i still want to see whether what i think is good is actually good

  • @scottdesemberer8751
    @scottdesemberer8751 Місяць тому

    I would like to hear Montu opinion on buffs and nerfs for acsension perks in same format

  • @regiuseques6333
    @regiuseques6333 Місяць тому

    He was kinder to my organic ascension than I expected. Thank you Montu even if it sucks.

  • @serban031
    @serban031 Місяць тому

    I believe you can still do defender and crisis ascension perks by taking defender first. I was able to do it a couple of times while doing a cosmogenesis run

  • @kaliasfr
    @kaliasfr Місяць тому

    A tier list! My favorite kind of video! Thx a lot for your work!

  • @vuhlko
    @vuhlko Місяць тому

    I find this video compatible to my planning !

  • @mikailfournea9545
    @mikailfournea9545 Місяць тому

    Archaeo engineers is actually goated for a battleship fleet. An income of 20 relics a month (easy with 2-3 fully expanded sectors, with an average of 4 digsites per sector) can almost fill up an entire battleship by the time it takes to actually build one. It helps if you play a more peaceful game so that you have a surplus

  • @usernameunknown2823
    @usernameunknown2823 24 дні тому

    In regards to Machine Worlds, I think it’s one of the best techs you can possibly get for machine empires.
    HOWEVER.
    Now that Catalytic Processing makes your alloy production ridiculous, a good tip is to have a few planets for food production regardless.
    Also, cosmogenesis is the STRONGEST ascension perk I have ever used. The fallen empire ships are ridiculously strong, and ensure that you won’t really need that extra Endgame Damage Buff (albeit it still helps).

  • @kylestevens6544
    @kylestevens6544 25 днів тому

    I only take Xeno-compatability when im role-playing Zena, Princess Warrior. I assume they are related and it'd be nice if the got along.
    Your videos are a massive help my man

  • @VictorKiithsa
    @VictorKiithsa Місяць тому

    It would be really cool if the next expansion was about bio technologies and living ships, which would have a nice compatibility with the machine age expansion

  • @DotaMobaUnionRu
    @DotaMobaUnionRu Місяць тому +2

    Organics is compatible with machine authority if it plays as bio-trophy.

  • @danielk5780
    @danielk5780 Місяць тому

    Would you be interested in making a Destiny Trait Tier List for Leaders? It would be very interesting to hear your opinion, especially with the current cheese that lets you recruit Commanders out of the Leader Pool that are already Level 8 and give you access to Destiny Traits right out of the gate.

  • @JAMBUILDER08
    @JAMBUILDER08 Місяць тому

    Now I know which perks are truely compatable with my empire :D

  • @azzor4134
    @azzor4134 Місяць тому

    at 3:10 , it should be noted that Scientist councillors can decrease minor artifact cost from ships by 10% each, called Archeostudies. If you manage to get 6 scientist councillors with that trait + Archaeo-Engineers ascension perk, you'll be looking at -70% minor artifact cost. Iff you start with the Remnants Origin, IIRC, your first scientists starts with the Archaestudies trait , and your next scientists will have a decent chance to roll that trait after level 4. Beware that your Archeo-Engineers (job) will stop producing minor artifacts if you upgrade your Relic Worlds to an Ecumenopolis.

  • @Noir1234
    @Noir1234 Місяць тому

    11:05 - Mastery of Nature also does not work on Nanite Worlds, created by a Nanotech empire.
    But its probably a bug with the Nanite World, also Nanite Worlds from the L-Cluster event and other ones are not the same for a Nanotech empire.
    Also you can't transform the Capital Planet of a Nanotech empire to a Nanite World, you have to swap the Capital to a already transformed world if you want to do it.

  • @justinboggs
    @justinboggs Місяць тому +3

    I need to know what show the intro clip is from hoping to binge watch it tonight!

  • @popecorkyxxiv2363
    @popecorkyxxiv2363 29 днів тому

    I found combining Virtual ascension with defense matrix, Domination, Synchronicity and an Official as Leader causes a 100% reduction to pop empire size. Perfect for making insanely densely populated tall worlds without ever breaking 100 empire size.

  • @spookyaction3236
    @spookyaction3236 Місяць тому

    To what robot god do we owe another tier list video in so many days? Thank you kind sir. EDIT: I found this video compatible with my Friday evening.

  • @letsplaysvonaja1714
    @letsplaysvonaja1714 27 днів тому

    Tech ascendency is just the best first pick in general
    Same as discovery
    Not even for the meta or a tech rush, but simply to get started

  • @immoplays9587
    @immoplays9587 Місяць тому

    little correction to you machine worlds. you said it doubles the job output, but it doubles the amount of jobs per district in stead. so for example a mining district wont provide two jobs but instead four.

  • @TinyTusk
    @TinyTusk Місяць тому

    There really is a lot of compatible perks for the way i play, and overall the compatibility of perks is just off the chart with synergy

  • @redstonehero7944
    @redstonehero7944 27 днів тому

    Nanites is also insanely strong late game. If you play Incredibly wide and subsume every planet, you don’t really need to populate the planets to gain nanites. Around 80 years in or so, you can kill alloy production for more unity and make exclusively nanite ships. By the thune I got to end game, I was getting nearly a thousand ships every spawn in

  • @alexalbrecht5768
    @alexalbrecht5768 Місяць тому +1

    Mastery of Nature is quite compatible with the Arc Welders Origin.

  • @nash6520
    @nash6520 Місяць тому

    Overtuned origin, Genesis Guides civic, and Xeno-Compatibility as your first ascension perk due to already having the required technology, will let you immediately create hybrids and modify them however you wish once you uplift the free pre-sapients. The hybrid will always inherit one trait from each parent, and the pre-sapients start with only their special pre-sapient trait, so that will always be inherited.