The Problem with Cats in Media
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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I actually love Isle of Dogs; I just happen to love cats more.
Full disclosure: this video was made back in August (hence the difference in my sub count) and kept being pushed back for a variety of life reasons. Every time I delayed its released, I wondered if it was still worth posting it at all. I eventually decided to do it anyway, but please be aware that if you talk about this video, you're talking to August-me, and I feel like I've aged 10 years per month in 2020.
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Who's your favorite animated cat character?
Jiji from kiki's delivery service will always have a special place in my heart
Garfield and kuro from blue exorcist.
Garfield will always stay with me
Tom from tom and jerry, he just wants to make life for his owners easier and get rid of an intruding mouse ;~;
Does blaze the cat count
Oddly enough, in Japan, it seems like cats are generally nice in movies and shows. At worst they act lazy at times
There's the mythological idea that being mean to cats might make the cat into a monster. Also that a very old cat will split its tail and use magic.
I think animist societies might have better relations with cats in general due to spirits being somewhat arbitrary and not thinking in the same way as people.
Maybe monotheistic societies have problems with cats due to their unpredictability and freedom.
@@lazchurchyard1229 Yeah, in Egypit cats were/are holy animals
Idk if It's the actual reason of this but few years ago One of Japan's island(i'm sorry i can't remember the name of the island)Faced with a Giant Flood and A lot of people died in this Tragedy
Hopefully, There's also a lot of people survived and that People said they Saved their lives Thanks to the Cats
Because the Cats that Live in that island Climbed to The Top of Buildings and most People who saw them did the same thing which is leaded them to Survive
But this isn't the only good thing that the Cats of that island helped the Survivors, after that Tragedy people started fundings for Main Needs for People so people Used The Heroes of island Citizens(i mean the Cats)as mascot of Fundings, which made Donations Collected Faster than Normal,in the End the some Parts of Fundings goes to The Food for Cats that lives in island
This Story is Kinda interesting to me and if i find the video that i learned this i would put the link here
Like Jiji!
@Cocoa cat girl revolution
When I was a little kid, I had a cat that loved me. I didn’t pay much attention to her, but for some reason, she always wanted to be with me. I still don’t get why cats in cartoons are portrayed as hateful creatures.
Yes, cats have a weird and mischievous demeanor like How I owned a cat before that kept running away from our home and scratching our couches rugs etc, though some animation companies exaggerate tropes to make things more interesting some cats are so and so but at the end of the day it’s just a trope
My aunt had a feral cat who went in the house too. I did not know it was feral and it gave me a big scratch when I tried to pet it. That's the reason I'm still alert with cats. If people let them roam the streets they can become wild and be aggressive towards people. Street dogs are more likely to be friendly than street cats because of differences in domestication. Dogs are a little bit easier to read too. Watching you on their back wagging tail with open belly? Dog: it wants to be pet Cat: Ill scratch you if you pet me. So yeah I do get cats being mean is a thing in cartoons but don't forget about all those mean stereotyped bully type dogs either ;)
@@dicenia3881 honey, wild dogs are more dangerous than wolves
@@Shizuka171 I don't know if you are talking about actual wild dog species or feral domesticated dogs. I wouldn't approach either because they survive in the wild. Though if I would have to chose I would approach the latter. Wild dogs are either a different species or have become fully feral as an population ( dingo's) with them regaining pre domestication characteristics. I'm talking about street animals. Street cats aren't dependant on humans feeding them, they can and have good opportunities to hunt on the streets. Thus more likely to shun and attack humans. Street dogs are mostly in some way dependant on humans for food and are more likely to approach them and be nice to humans( to get something). Are there violent street dogs? Yes. Are there nice street cats ? Yes. Should you approach either at an fast pace ? No. But I would rather pet a street dog than a cat that approaches me? Yes I would go for the dog, unless its obviously behaving weird...
@@dicenia3881 bruh if the cat doesnt want to be pet then dont pet it?? Whats ur logic here? "CaT nO WAnT mE tO tReAt Him LiKe ToY so He bAd >:(((" bruuuhhhhh
We need more positive cat representation in film. Cats are sweet and cute, and I wish media would show them in a better light.
Watch 'the cat returns' and 'whispers of the heart' from Studio Ghibli it shows a positive representation of Cats, you'll love those movies
@@OrisR That’s pretty coincidental since I got a Ghibli HBO Max advertisement before this video started.
Do not watch bolt it says cats are evil but cats aren’t.it still is a good movie but I don’t like the cat representation in it
Same
They are positively portrayed all over the internet though.
Imagine this:
A stereotypical villain who wants money, a black cat seated on his lap..
But the villain looks sad. He looks down at the cat and gives it a pet, seeing the cat's ribs as it faintly purrs.
The villain gently picks up the cat and gently carries it like a baby in his arms. Quietly giving the cat a tiny kiss on it's fuzzy forehead.
It purrs again.
The villain walks into a shelter area filled with cats, and gently sets the cat in it's preferred bed, a few kittens rushing towards the bed and snuggling with the black cat.
The villain gently smiles as he turns away to quietly walk to a pantry where the food was stored, and notices there isn't enough to feed everyone.
He takes out his wallet to see a few small coins fall out and sighs, looking dissapointed in himself.
Then a ginger cat with a scratched up paw slowly pads over to him and gently presses it's forehead on the villain's calf, purring.
A few more cats pad up and gently purr, seeing there's not much food left.
The villain takes a deep breath and smiles mischievously "You all want to help me?" He says quietly.
The cats look up to him and sit politely, eyes wide and licking their lips excitedly.
The villain smiles and whispers "Let's go then" before he starts to head out a back door to the shelter, heading towards an overstocked pet store, the willing cats following in tandem.
OOOOOWN, I LOVE THIS :)
@@genericbro2440 THANK YOU-
@@tomuraukami you've combined two of my biggest interests, cats and villains. I owe you my soul bro lmao
@@genericbro2440 🥺- thank you so much man-
Write A STORY AAAA-
Negative depictions of black cats almost scare me at this point. I'm terrified someone might hurt or kill my own for fear of "bad luck" if he gets outside. He likes to look out the windows and beep at the birds, and at Christmas time he'll sit under the tree but he doesn't climb into it. Sometimes I'll look at my bed and suddenly realise he's there, and it's a pleasant surprise. He brings me so much joy. Black cats don't need to be feared, and they can be a source of happiness. People who are scared of black cats are losing, too.
My brother has a black cat named Aaron, and he has got to be one of the most sweet, mellow cats ive had the pleasure of knowing! He likes to sit on people's laps and watch tv with them, and is just this really tame little dude.
I'm sorry but when you said that he beeps at birds while looking through the window, all I see in my head is a cat making an alarm clock noise and it's a wonderful image
i have 2 black cats. ones named shadow and can be a bitch but is also friendly when not being poked at. the other is a huge tom named bow
Void kitties are the best💕💕🖤 I wish people would stop associating them with bad luck because I don't think any animal is a bad luck.
Fr i don't trust anyone who doesn't like cats, black cats are the best
Cats are equally kind as dogs I hate that they are always portrayed as sneaky unloyal and unloving tricksters
this
Well they ARE little shts
@@Vivigreeny25 why you say so?
@@Vivigreeny25 you are proving our points
I totally agree. I have two cats and one dog and all are lovely
Where I come from, cats are generally despised. I can't count how many times I've heard people say that they hate cats because they're mean, selfish and filthy. I even get a lot of hate when I say I like them... That's bad enough on its own, but the real problem is how it's seen as okay to HURT cats. It breaks my heart every time I see a friendly stray walking up to someone only to get kicked or have something thrown at them, and it pisses me off even more knowing that no one here would ever do that to a dog, but since it's a cat, it's acceptable. Hitting animals in general is fucked up and it sucks seeing one of my favorite creatures on this planet get treated so badly.
I keep my teeth healthy so I can bite those peoples' fingers off
I can promise you that if I ever witnessed someone abusing a cat, stray or not, it'd be the last thing that they did.
This is one of the reasons I keep my cats inside. Not just because spaying and neutering your cats and keeping them inside but giving them enrichment so their not bored helps them not destroy local ecosystems but because of terrible dog people. “I’d run over a cat if I saw one.” “Cats are too aloof and unloving and selfish.” “Cats deserve to be hurt”. And I don’t ever want my cats to be put 20 feet radius from these delusional mutt obsessed sociopaths. I do like dogs don’t get me wrong. My grandma has a fluffy panish dog. And a miniature pincher. But I don’t like most of the people who own dogs who also don’t like cats. If you like dogs that’s fine. But can you not let your bias make you think that anything not dog related is bad?
Sometimes it's hard for me to not hate dogs, it makes me sick to think there's people out there who think it's okay to hurt an animal because of something that isn't even thr animal's fault
I remember watching 101 Dalmatians (the original) and being really happy that a cat in a dog centered movie was portrayed as kind and heroic.
He was legit kid me's favourite character from the movie for this reason!
Sgt. Tibbs is a buddy!
My family has an army of cats, and they all have such different, vibrant personalities. The thing about cats is that they naturally need some “me time” and are very particular about the boundaries. All our kitties used to be strays. One of them was found in her adolescence, she doesn’t like being picked up or petted without permission. She is an incredibly adorable cat, and having her carefully approach you and press her forehead against your hand is the most rewarding thing ever. She became skittish after spending her childhood surviving in a basement of an abandoned house, struggling as a teen mom (she had kittens at 6-7 months of age) and fighting off rats that were a constant threat to her and her children, and suffering from illness and starvation. It takes a lot of time for her to start trusting someone. When my mom brought her in she was hiding all the time. Now she spends every night sleeping next to my mom’s face. I know for a fact that people who are not familiar with our cat and cats in general would interpret her behavior as hostile and unfriendly. Why would anyone want a pet that can’t be touched or picked up? It’s sad how little we understand animals, especially those who need help. Our kitty’s health and happiness is worth much more than our ability to pet her.
Besides, she still enjoys human company. On her terms. That’s something you must respect to be friends with a cat
pls take me to ur army of cats
@@DrawpinionDump gladly, there’s twelve of them, we can use extra help 😂 plus there are dogs. One of our kittens loves to cuddle with them, it’s the cutest thing
You need to name the clan of cats something, I guess.
"Why would someone want a pet that can't be touched or picked up?" Fishkeepers: 👁👄👁
@@Abbanellie and tarantula keepers 😂
People hate cats because they read cat behaviour in the same way one would dog behaviour when they are very different, show affection in different ways and have different needs. Sure, cats can be tiny furry annoyances sometimes but so can dogs
@Ian Yoder most of the cat people I've met are like, "I love cats but dogs are ok too," and then the dog people are often like, "Dogs are great and cats are demon spawn," it's funny but also kind of sad
@@nottodayartt5187 yeah that's how it usually is people just need to convince dog lovers to just own a cat for like a few weeks or a month or a year depending on if they still want to keep the cat after their time limit was up you know if their opinion of cats changed.
@꧁Nekochu Gaming꧂ My cat has a lot of personal space, you need to win his trust before he really lets you touch him. He loves sleeping in the same room as me but only wants to touch sometimes, and he doesn't like to be touched by other cats.
My cat can be aggressive sometimes but that's just cats for you. A few years ago he scratched my eyebrow, and now there is a scar on my eyebrow that looks similar to an eyebrow slit. I like to joke about how I joined the trend of getting an eyebrow slit unintentionally, but I like it. Plus it sets my face apart from my identical twin sister's, so it's easier for people to tell us apart now.
@꧁Nekochu Gaming꧂ I have to disagree that cats are solitary by nature. If you said that cats are solitary hunters by nature I would agree with you. You see, there’s a reason that feral cat colonies are a thing, cats do like company. They live together, sleep together, but they hunt separately. I’d say cats are social but independent and don’t spend every second of their life with another being. The comparison to introverts still stands, though it’s more to social introverts or ambiverts
Years after my first cat with whom i had a closer and more loving relationship than any human I knew passed away, my family still speaks ill of him in a half joking way just because he was a cat. Not one word about our dog who was hurting our other dogs, not one word about the lazy chubby dog we had, only my cats, who very clearly loved us just as much as the rest of our pets
I'm sorry... That's horrible.
I also had very close relationships with my first two cats and usually there was this line of thinking from my family of "you have to move on, preferably to being more social with other human beings" when all I wanted was my best friends back.
So, I get it. I truly do.
Aw your cat deserves better than to have your family members smudge on your cats name because he was a cat.
I really hope I phrased it right
It is okay to say cats are portrayed bad but it's not ok to lie I know this person never had a dog
@@TokaDot I know these people I can also just say I had a cat but I never had a cat it's just dumb how people say shit and everyone believes it
People who hate cats usually do so because they don't understand how cats work or because of the mindset of needing to be the "master". They expect their pets to be fully obedient, but because cats are more free spirited and individuals, it creates this uncertainty and lack of power that makes them frustrated, because they are not fully in control. To me this screams insecurity issues and narcissism.
I myself am a proud cat mom to my 15 year old cat. I used to have two, but her twin sister died few years ago at the age of 12 due complications with health and old age. I've had her and her sister when they were kittens and they were my only friends for most of my childhood. If I end up alone when I'm an old lady, I will become a cat lady or donate to my local cat shelter.
That's my plan B too. If I end up single and older (enough to not being able to have a child naturally), I want some cats.
You have a very good point! I was thinking something similiar, but I couldn't find the words. You described perfectly what makes people dislike cats. Every other pet is easy to control, but cats have freedom, as you mentioned. People are not used to that lack of control, and they get trust issues.
I find cats very good to have. First of all, they can take care of themselves, they can go outside and roam freely for hours and still return home as long as you give them food and respect. So if you work a lot, doesn't have the time or ability to take walks everyday, is too busy to play with pets everytime they get playful or bored, a cat is better than a dog. Dogs will get depressed if they find themselves neglected. The dog my family had was sad, because we never had the time or motivation to take long walks and play with her. Now, in her new home where there are children, she has started to eat better, gained weight, and is as playful as she was as a puppy! She is happy now. Meanwhile, our cat Tosco is content with going outside for hours everyday to get exercise and have fun, we don't need to entertain him with toys. He comes inside to eat, sleep and cuddle with us. I think that's why old ladies like cats so much, too. They require only minimal attention per day, unless the cat has special needs.
Second, while dogs need to be trained to sniff out problems in humans, there are often stories of cats waking up humans at night. They had sensed that the human had a pause in their breathing, or for those with diabetes, had low blood sugar. Things like that, cats will warn you about. They need no training for it. So that's another great reason that cats are good as well! Fine if you like dogs more, but there is no need to get biased.
@@iclynnx I admit as a lazy person that I like cats as pets over dogs because the effort is smaller than taking care of a dog. I don't think I would be well equip to take care of a dog on my own. I still like dogs, specially the gentle ones, but I'm afraid of dogs that bark too much.
@@uberkirbeeh7954 oh you are not the only one there barks scare me but dogs are adorable.
Rats have a similar personality to cats and I love them. I personally hate cats because they kill 1 billion native animals a year in my country and unlike rats or foxes people chuck a tantrum over killing feral cats. I'm cool if you keep your cat inside but if you let it out don't act like it's not killing native wildlife.
I had neiborhood cats that constantly sprayed my front door and car and got into fights every 3rd night or so late at night. They can be sweet I don't doubt that, I feed and care for my neighbors neglected cat because they don't care enough for him and i hope that me feeding him stops him from killing birds, reptiles or mammals. I loved my rats :) I was happy with them even when they wanted space or just wanted to do other stuff. People can dislike cats for reasons other then ego and a desire for control. I dislike them because no one does anything to stop their cats from killing wildlife, breeding and peeing on people's things. They are an extremely successful predator that Australian wildlife had no chance against.
I feel a similar way to brumbys. They trample important borrowing land for wildlife and are basically feral animals but people care more about feral animals then wildlife.
I'm not looking for a fight I'm just stating why I personally don't like them.
I used to get into daily debates in elementary school about cats because it was rare when people’s didn’t dislike them. I was obsessed with cats big time then and was known mainly for that.
you've described exactly how elementary school was for me as well lmao
You people are heroes. Thank you!
This. I was bit by a big dog when I was in kindergarten so I was nervous around large dogs but I felt more comfortable around small animals like cats. And people just don't "get it"
Same here.
Same!
We had a family cat a few years back named Truly who was the biggest, sweetest cream-puff you could imagine. She never hissed or bit or scratched once in all her years on this Earth, not even when we would give her a bath; she would just sit there meowing softly as if to say, "I beg your pardon, but I'm a tad uncomfortable being wet and all, so if it's not too much trouble, dear family, it would be ever so kind of you if you could please hurry, perhaps?" And she loved nothing more than to be held and snuggled and rocked like a baby, purring like crazy while you kissed the top of her head. It's hard for me to think of any dogs--let alone any other animals, including people--I've known in my lifetime that have even come close to being as passive, patient, and affectionate as that cat was with all of us. My mom always said half-jokingly that if everyone just had a cat like Truly then there would be no dog people, and I honestly don't think she was too far off the mark. Given how much I love them, I think it's such a shame that cats have gotten such a bad rap in western media. The only ones you largely see portrayed in a positive light are big cats, like lions, but regular, domesticated ones not so much.
sign me up for the Truly fanclub
Although this ain't Reddit, i can't just let you talk about your cat Truly without a link to a photo or video of her. You must pay the cat tax.
My cat once dropped my last clean pair of socks in her water bowl when I was running late for work
what a rascal. i love her dearly.
@@DrawpinionDump me too, it’s the reason she will continue to get away with it
You just misunderstood.
She knew you were gonna run out the door, so she tried to wet your socks to cool you down! What a sweetheart!
Ahh, she didn't want you to leave her!
when my cat was younger he really liked stealing things like socks and gloves, he would get extremely defensive if you came near his sock horde
All my cats were lovely creatures
One of them died this morning and my other cat doesn't know
My sister was crying and the cat came up to her and sat on her lap
He didn't know why everyone was crying but he did his best to make us happier
Not evil at all
There is a comic on webtoons called “Nice cats/Bad dogs” I love it because it shows the classical behaviors we associate with a good dog but flips it to show they are assholes while cats are genuinely trying to do good things. It’s a great comic to read.
A supreme irony in all of this is that cats are much more similar to humans in terms of personality and behavior than dogs are, yet they are portrayed more negatively. I wonder what says about humanity.
And there is definitely a huge dose of misogyny in the way cats are depicted. Most cat characters are usually female and are portrayed as villains at worst or simply selfish at best, whereas the dog characters are usually male and heroic, and even when they are portrayed as evil, it's usually them just following the orders of someone evil.
A lot of writers are male, so perhaps it's them projecting their own misogyny on a convenient target. I mean, in the movie "Cats and Dogs" the cats are literally accused of spreading "radical felinism", so it's definitely possible.
I've watched Cats and Dogs as a kid, and the dog worship really fed into my hatred of cats. I've never met a cat, but I hated them because media told me to. Now, looking at the movies through the eyes of a cat-person, I hate the portrayal. The 2nd movie, despite realizing they compared cats to dictators, still decided to stick with a cat villain. Time skip to now (with a 3rd movie coming out), the new villain isn't a dog but a bird. They'd rather vilify and shit on other pets than to portray a dog in a negative light.
Yeah and don’t get me started on those crazy cat lady jokes, some men love to use that to insult women who they like to think will be alone for the rest of their lives so they turn to cats. Honestly people are horrible like that, nothing new
@@melibu9939 I think we just need to start portraying sword guys more in media. Just to even it out a bit. It's not the same thing, sword guys are usually losers in their twenties, but it's the same basic idea.
I don't think the historical torture and killing/maiming of cats by the Catholic Church helped. Those kinds of societal views are still swimming around today, no matter how outdated and cruel they may be.
Yeah, and it's even more rare to see a good female cat. The only example that comes to my mind Is the mom cat and her daughter in Aristocats.
In Pixar’s “Up” there are no cats, and there are “good dogs” and “bad dogs”; just like humans 😉
Indeed, but we have to remember that most of the bad dogs are breeds associated with being evil and violent, like rottweilers and bulldogs. That in itself is a harmful stereotype like the one with cats. It doesn't help that the one good dog from the start (Dug) is a Golden Retreiver, arguably the most popular and accepted breed of dog because of its assumed pacifist nature.
It's surprising how the movie doesn't have cats, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have certain stereotypes about an animal representing good or bad natures.
@@100lovenana There was also a Doberman, which from Animal Planet's "Dogs 101" was bred as a guard dog for some tax collector who it's name after. *Up* did indeed keep up a lot of old tropes not just with the "violent" dog breeds that Rottweilers, Bulldogs and Dobbermans are infamous for but they also gave them threateningly deep male, excluding the Doberman until later in the movie.
@@100lovenanaActually, no, because these dogs were not portrayed as evil or bad because of them simply being dogs or because of their breed but because of the guy who raised and controlled them. They all changed afterwards, remember? That's the big difference. Cats are portrayed as evil for just being cats.
Something I've noticed as an owner of a cat and a chihuahua is that the same people who hate cats and claim to love dogs, also always seem to hate chihuahuas as well. And honestly I think it's for very similar reasons, mainly misunderstanding. Everyone always remarks at how my chihuahua is the most chill chihuahua they've ever met, but that's because I treat him with respect and not like a living accessory.
So yes, justice for cats. But also justice for chihuahuas, the most over hated dog.
People always gotta bring down other breeds to make theirs look good. Dog community toxic af
I'm not a big fan of small dog breeds, mainly due to their high-pitched barks that hurt my sensitive ears, but you are right about chihuahuas. Because of being treated like toys or babies, and not like a normal dog, they start acting up, and then people blame it on the breed, rather than the fact how people treat that breed. It's the same with pitbulls and other fighting dogs. They are treated differently because of their breed's history, but if you treat it just like another dog, and trains it like you normally do, and adapt to it's personality, it will be no different. Treat dogs like dogs, with respect and accurate training, make it listen to you, no matter it's size and history, and you'll get a normal dog. Unless they have a mental issue due to poor breeding (which is why it's good to only breed dogs that are friendly and obedient, and not inbred. Had a rooster, a male chicken, some years ago that was aggressive. He was likely inbred).
people dont seem to know how to approach training a small animal at all
I think that people hate chihuahuas because most owners of that breed don't train that dog breed cause they're small so they think they're harmless and thus the barking ensues, just my opinion tho might be wrong
Chihuahuas are just fennec foxes with defective proportions.
My cat looks like a cat villain
Black fur
Yellow eyes
Always looks angry
Has hole in ear
My cat is the reason the media depicts cats as evil.
Did I mention he loves to snuggle and is scared of everything?
That's my dream cat
@@mehwishmanha9250 yeah he gets REAAAAAAALLL crazy at night. He also look really cute when he goes to sleep
OMG, someone FINALLY said something about fictional cats almost always being bad! There are some sweeties out there, you know
Yeah!
We need a cats vs dogs story where the cats are motivated by righteous indignation of how they are portrayed in Western media compared to the dogs.
I would watch the f**k out of that.
Recently I making an comic about about a family of cats living under a stigma about their species, and they struggle to get a place in their social environment. And not only the cat family, but also the animals that get a bad stigma such as bats, crocodiles, monkeys, foxes, and others.
edit: It revamped into an novel. My drawing skill are crappy
If we’re going to portray cats as mean, vicious, aggressive animals, we might as well see dogs as hyper, spaz, and unnecessarily violent towards people’s friends when they come over to visit
Cat: h
Media: "Ah yes, a villain."
If dog is man's best friend, what does that make cat owners 👽
women's best friend
@@galaxymoon8071 hmmmmm..... cool!
People greatest friend
Horse is mans best slave,dogs man best friend,cat possibly mans equal.
Better than dogs
People hate cats because they hate an animal that sets boundaries on how you treat it and also misogyny send tweet
I honestly really don't like these takes, just because they tend to go a little too far and end up in the "dog people just want to control someone" place. It's not Problematic to enjoy an animal that unconditionally enjoys your company. Dogs are fine. I've also had my GF's cat destroy too many of my mugs to not understand why cats could get characterized as devious and sinister. That said, I love most cats. Different pets for different, um, folks.
faxts
@@loreleiflare7388 Sorry, I know this is phrased kind of aggresively, but I don't mean that people like dogs because they're obedient. There are a lot of reasons to choose a dog over a cat, because they're very different animals. But stuff like not going on walks in order to keep the pet and the owner active is not a factor in whether people HATE cats. Every time I ask people why they hate them, the response boils down to "I expected them to behave in a way that is consistently friendly and they didn't"
The post I read where somebody theorised that part of the reason cats are usually portrayed negativity because they're feminine coded stuck with me
yessss something ab hating cats seems misogynist to me, ppl think cats “arent for men” which is just bull
Which is pretty much a mental gimnastic.
There are some very nasty cat behavior that can be really annoying to most people, and add being mostly useless pets to that.
So, you have a pet which does nothing, goes away most of the day, sleeps most of the day and then attacks you.
Comparing that to dogs who are very useful in the entire world through history as either workers, protectors or helpers, you can see why one is potrayed as lazy and evil while the other as good and helpful
@@gregorythestallion2984 True but anything related to symbolism and connotations requires mental gymnastics and overthinking things.
Comparing two different animals with generally different behaviours and having a trope about them being mortal enemies doesnt make sense.
Also, I feel like the trope of the "crazy cat lady" and how male villains with cats in older works are presented backs up the idea of cats being associated with femininity and deviancy.
Yeah another comment says that they’re associated with witchcraft in opposition to the church, which was a female thing.
@@gregorythestallion2984
Gymnastics*
Cats are such loyal, adorable and kind creatures. Idk where the "cats are evil" trope came from but as a cat lover, that's false
Maybe its because of how sassy they can be
imagine cat
she's so cool B)
her fur is black and her eyes are yellow, not like amber but like dandelions
she's so agile and swift and she jumps like a fox
thank you for imagining cat
Sounds exactly like my cat.
imagined cat
enjoyed lots
That is a lovely cat
This kinda stuff was exactly why I got into the Warriors series lmfao, I also hated the Cats vs Dogs movies due to this as well
Yes.
Oof, I was always low-key kinda sad whenever watching cats & dogs due to cattos always being the villains. I was stoked when I saw there was a 'good side' cat team in the sequel. Haven't seen movie 3 yet. Also, yasss, I love Wazza Cats!
Which is why I never watched the first movie and watched the second “Cats and Dogs”. But I really wanted the third movie to have a dog villain/antagonist. Instead we have a birb-
@@redballoon9007 They'll have every animal in the world be evil except for dogs kfsklghfdh
@@steampunk-llama Hitler likes dogs and hated cats from what I’ve heard.
Dogs should be portrayed as blindly loyal Nazi type villains.
I've noticed a couple interesting things about this topic.
1) Typically, in real life, cat people are introverts. And often in fiction, cat people are... evil. This might be a coincidence, but to me it seems like it's drawing an unreasonable parallel between introverts and *bad* which already exists in many places.
2) In media, since humans like rooting for the underdogs, usually the underdogs between dogs and cats are..... dogs. Like, in many other stories about cats and dogs, humans love cats and cats get away with a bunch of things and are evil and put the dogs in a bad light, because poor *dogs* the shunned dogs because people like cats so much.
So in fiction, either cat people are evil or most people are cat people and the poor dogs are underdogs, or cats have it easy compared to dogs or something. Cats seriously get a bad rap and all of this is so backwards.
I, personally, am a rabbit person XD
I love cats and dogs though, I just think it's super unfair how cats are treated in media. Cats are great creatures, they just show love in less traditional ways.
Me: *Coughs and stares at Mao Mao*
(For the beans who don’t understand this, I’m referring to a Cartoon Network show called Mao Mao: Heroes of pure heart, the main character is Mao Mao, a *cat* who works as the sheriff of a place called Pure heart valley, he’s the hero, along with his best friend Badgerclops and a cute little bat girl called Adorabat, the three work day and night to ensure the safety and protection of their beloved town, saving it from monsters and a group of villains called the sky pirates)
i Like the show too
Can I also just add that Mao Mao is also a black cat and wears red. That's two things generally seen as villainous.
@@queen-monarch and also green eyes and a scar I guess (the tail). Green sometimes mean evil sometimes like Scar from the Lion King and Malenificent from Sleeping Beauty. Scars can also mean a very violent person. So 2 more.
@@Hennoooo I saw all of these design elements when I first heard of the show, and I thought he was a villain protagonist until I also very quickly found out he was a hero. Good on the show's creators for subverting so many things with one character.
@@queen-monarch I never knew that someone can be trick into thinking that Mao Mao is the villain protagonist because of the villain elements so thank you for sharing that. Oh yeah and his team is pretty clever. A cat, badger bear, and a bat. Cats can be seen very selfish, badgers can be seen very violent, and bats can be seen as ugly. Instead the creators is the opposite, damn the creators are very clever.
It's always so weird to me when talking to people who don't like cats. "They're so uncaring." "They're evil!" "It's just using you for food." Etc etc
Like my boy Rusty is super lovey and always needs my attention constantly and gets jealous and acts out if I give attention to one of the other cats (he either makes a mess by throwing food around or ignores me until bedtime). He doesn't like being picked up though and can be pretty shy around new people which instantly means he's cold and unable to know love, obviously. Despite him sleeping with me every night and grooming my arms and needing to be in my lap whenever I'm sitting. It's tiring.
The only cats that get good media attention are big cats, but more specifically lions. And I love lions, don't get me wrong! But I find it odd that the only cats worthy of respect are the most "macho" ones, cause lions are the "king of the jungle" and big powerful creatures. Specifically male lions, as females are generally still just moms/wives/sisters who are pretty lazy and not as cool which is double funny considering female lions are the real breadwinners but y'know.
I kinda got off track and starting rambling, sorry, but my point here is that cats and dogs both can be good (and bad) but we're mostly given cat = evil/snarky/traitorous and dog = good/friendly/loyal story lines, with few exceptions. The thought that cats can be good and dogs (that aren't just pitbulls, dobermans and german shepherds) can be evil. Waiting for a movie with a "big goofy loveable" dog breed as the villain and a cat hero, though I don't see it happening anytime soon. I can dream.
At the very least we have Warriors which has good and bad cats with dogs sometimes being threats, though it's fairly dark and sometimes pretty graphic.
poor cats they're baby
accurate,, my cat has turned into a snail
I mean, it’s pretty weird. I always thought that it has something to do with the fact that black cats have a myth of witchcraft or that dogs are usually stereotyped as a man’s best friend. But cats in real life are just pretty good animals, I prefer dogs but they’re OK :D
I agree with you on that. I have a dog and a cat but you can understand why I like dogs more. My dog comes crashing through things just to say hi to me when I come home, while my cat just walks by like whatever 😆
Dogs and cats are different animals, but that doesn't mean we should feel differently about the two. I love them both equally 🐶 🐱 ❤
Black cats with white spots on their chests are thought to steal souls. One of my cats is like that, and the only thing he's stolen is my heart.
@@tortis6342 I have the exact same cat but all he steals is my pillows
@@nicksuazo4377 I actually have a cat that often comes to greet me, he even comes to us when we call him if he's outside and wants to come inside. He's very social, speaks a lot and loves to sleep near us. You know he trusts us from the way he can sleep with his belly exposed. Just as every dog is different, so are cats. Not every cat will prefer solitude, and not every cat will prefer being around humans a lot. Our cat has never scratched or hissed at us, he only has a habit of gnawing at us. He'll be only a year old soon, so I think that behaviour is just "teenage angst" and love bites.
@@nicksuazo4377 Also, I think cats don't come jumping at us because they think that behaviour will seem like an attack. The way dogs run at us and jump towards our face, is offensive to cats. Walking by you is a sign they don't feel the need to defend themselves or their territory from you.
as a fellow cat person, I wholeheartedly agree about your take on Isle of Dogs. It was one of the few things about this movie that rubbed me the wrong way..
Dogs are the cheerful, energetic and extroverted generic children’s program good guy and cats are the negative understanding of introverts as people who are hostile or inconsiderate. It needs to change
My cats aren't even introvert. They come sit with you, like to play and "talk" a lot.
Another thing I want to note is that cats are frequently understood as being cold and uncaring by people who are used to dogs when they try interacting with cats as if they were dogs, although the problem is not actually with the cat, but with the person who is ignorant of how to meet the cat's needs sufficiently for the cat to show affection. In that way, cats could not only serve as metaphors for ethnic minorities as you proposed in the video, but also metaphors for neurodivergent people. I am autistic, so this is from an autistic point of view and may not encompass the entire neurodivergent experience, but I believe it's still food for thought. One thing in particular is that cats, just like neurodivergent people, are prone to overstimulation. If pet too much, a cat may snap at the person petting, often because the person has failed to pick up on the previous clues the cat has given that it's had enough petting for the time being.
I myself have an autistic original character who I have given cat-coded body language to cement this connection
My dad is like that. He would pet my cats a bit too hard because he was used to dogs
I'm autistic too and I;ve always liked cats because of how similar we are in those aspects of how we show affection and the things you already listed.
Absolutely, i'm ND and i've noticed a lot of similiar hate towards me as cats get
Ok I’ve literally waited half my life for someone besides me to notice this and discuss it
I am a cat person. im a bit bias. BUT HAVE YOU EVER HAD THAT FEELING OF JOY WHEN YOU CALL FOR YOUR CAT AND THEY COME AND SIT BESIDE YOU AND ALLOW YOU TO PET THEM?! THATS WHAT I CALL TRUE JOY AND LOVE!
I got ridiculed for being a cat person in school.
In my class I was the only one who admitted I love cats more than dogs. I felt lonely but it felt like I was being true to myself.
So glad I'm not the only one who fell down the TV Tropes rabbit hole!
I once realized I had 50 tabs open on my phone and about 20 of them were TV Tropes (another 10 were Wikipedia).
@@BonaparteBardithion Same (づ￣ 3￣)づ
me too
It's funny how little self control I have
FUN FACT: A lot of the bad-cat tropes in animation specifically also comes from the fact that Walt Disney hated cats. That's why there are so many evil cats in his movies when he was still alive. Yes, I know, You might be wondering now: "But what about Aristocats?", Well that movie was produced right after Walt died. So yeah lol
The Aristocats holds a special place in my childhood👊😔
oliver and company?
@@rulerzreachf4nnnn Oliver and company was Wayyyy after he died
However, 101 Dalmatians was produced before Walt Disney's death, and Sergeant Tibbs was the first of the friendly cats introduced in the Disney animated canon. But yeah, before then, many of the cats were portrayed either neutral (like Figaro from Pinocchio and the Cheshire Cat from Alice in Wonderland, though he does later on get her in trouble with the Queen of Hearts), or villainous (Lucifer from Cinderella, Si and Am from Lady and the Tramp, and of course, Mickey's arch-nemesis, Peg-Leg Pete).
@@dracorex6876 it took me years to realize Pete was a cat. Lol I don’t know what I thought he was. But my guess wasn’t cat.
felidae is a german adult cartoon movie based on a novel! its very graphic though, includes gore and uncensored cat sex (you read that right), but it does a fantastic job of depicting good cats, bad cats, and cats that just wanna vibe
Ah, yes, Felidae! That one weird movie with that horny she-cat and a murder mystery of sorts. I have watched that movie and, it's actually really good despite the odd certain scenes. Well animated and interesting.
By the way, the cat mating scene doesn't actually show any... parts, just so people know. They are only shown in that position. So if you're okay with that, gore, and background pictures of human s*x, I'd recommend it.
I agree with everything except your take on Isle of Dogs. I am a cat person myself and I agree it'd be awesome to see more positive cat portrayels in media. However, I think Isle of Dogs works in using dogs instead of cats because it is set in Japan. In western media, yes, cats are villainised, however, it's the opposite with Japanese media. Take The Cat Returns as a well known example. I lived in Japan for a year and strong majority of the friends I made preferred cats over dogs. A good portion actually disliked dogs a lot. When I asked why, I found that the answers stemmed a lot from the fact that the people hadn't been exposed to many dogs growing up, and had learnt to fear dogs. Japan has an issue with stray and wild dog populations. A group of stray dogs actually attacked two of my host siblings who were still in primary school. Also, not many people had dogs as pets as opposed to dogs, so I suppose not many people are exposed to your typical friendly domestic dog like we are in western countries. The dogs people do have in Japan are generally very small. I didn't see many big domestic dogs when I lived in Japan.
I just thought this was cool, but I also had a host brother in Japan who went to Canada for an exchange year. Before going to Canada, he hated dogs, but his host family ended up having 7 dogs. By the end of his exchange, he loved dogs and now he really wants to get a dog of his own in Japan :)
I think it makes sense in Isle of Dogs then that dogs would be cast out as opposed to cats. I suppose to a Japanese audience it would definitely subvert their expectations on dogs.
I want a story about all the villainous animals. Like snakes, foxes, cats, etc.
Zootopia kind of addresses that, straight up taking it a racism metaphor
I'm writing a story that has a tiger and a snake as two of the protagonists, and another story where the gods of the world can shapeshift into snakes!
@@katielarson1593 My goodness, you ARE a god for that
I grew up with cats all my life and I was always upset when cats were portrayed as evil in movies. I seriously think we need a movie or show to shape cats as heroes instead of villains.
Has anyone heere read Warriors???
It is chock full of cats that aren't like this.
I mean it's full of cats that ARE but there are so many cat-racters (Haha I'm so funny) that it's pretty un avoidable.
Edit: Side note, I don't have a dog but there's a few cats that live in the neighborhood that aren't strays they're just outdoor cats, and honestly they're pretty friendly and chill.
Once when I was out with friends a kitten came up to us, looking clearly lost and it was so sweet my heart-
How are these things selfish and evil???
They're little craps sure, but that's just pets in general
Yesss, Hollyleaf is my fave!!
I LOVEWING DOVEWING!
@@orchidpawuwu335 Ooof, she my second fave! :D
Love warriors, but haven’t read up on it in a while. By far, I love Mapleshade’s and her revenge quest!
Some thing i wanted to add- please watch out for the outdoor cats especially if they arent your own! People have been shooting cats and injuring them for no apparent reason. Just keep an eye out if you can!
I've always been a cat person, but over the years I've come to like dogs less and less (though I do still like them). The reason? An ill tempered, uncontrolled dog will FUCKING KILL PEOPLE. I became caretaker to 15 feral (almost exclusively black) cats, and once they got used to me they were all as sweet and loving as any housecat, except for one who tended to nip if you pet him (left alone, he was perfectly fine). At the same time, my neighbors had a dog that over several years, chased and attacked my cats, broke in and killed chickens MULTIPLE times, and later attacked a child (who was okay). This dog was not kept behind any fence, was never leashed, and was free to roam the area. And this is neither the first frighteningly aggressive dog I'd met, nor the first this particular neighbor ever had, and the fact that people are so much quicker to jump on cats for being "selfish" or "underhanded" just makes me so mad.
Most dogs are great and sweet and cute. So are most cats. But people don't take aggressive and territorial dogs seriously enough when they are so much more dangerous to completely innocent people and animals going about their business than the worst cat ever could be.
Cats are so lovely! I see so many ppl who hate cats for no reason other then ‘they’re mean and don’t care about you’ and the reason they don’t care is because YOU DONT CARE! Cats need love too!
What about The Aristocats? That's the only western film I can think of where the cats are not only on the good side, but they're also the protagonists! And it's a Disney film, a company that has Lucifer (Cinderella), and it's constantly reminding us in short films that Pluto's worst enemy is cats. (Remember Pluto's nightmare? Where the demons are literally cats?)
And also Oliver & Company, the movie has a great balance with the protagonist being a kitten raised by a group of dogs. There's a surprising amount of good cats in Disney films, like Diana in Alice in Wonderland, the cat from 101 Dalmatians, and the cat from The Rescuers.
The unfortunate thing is that most of the movies I mentioned with good cats are very underrated movies that came up in Disney's dark age, so that's why not many people remember these examples.
I think my favorite subversion of this trope is in Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts. I won't spoil anything but the cats here are honest and keep their word while keeping cat caracteristics
Timbercats for life!!!
Yumyan owns you all!!
@@steampunk-llama rip
This is why I love the Warriors series. It's about cats in a spiritual setting
Hello random Warriors fan!
Same but like, wayyyy to many "evil dogs", it's just the cat stereotype but flipped tbh (coming from a cat person btw). Imo, there should be more yappy dogs in Warriors and less "murderous dogs".
@@googlewontletmeswearinmyna8695 Way too many? They're barely an element in all of the series. And its through a cat's eyes. You don't think something like a cat would be scared of being killed by a dog?
And there is many representations of the "yappy dog" stereotype in the books.
Source- Read the books
@@tomuraukami I've read a ton of the books. Why're you trying to argue. If you're a cat you shouldn't fear every dog. And so far I've only heard of one yappy dog. And no, I will not be arguing with someone who defends that harmful stereotype. Don't be so snarky.
I just had an idea for a story, so basically, there is a cat and a dog who are friends, and instead of the cat being the reluctant friend and the dog being overexcited, they acknowledge their differences and try to make the other comfortable. (ex. the dog tries to hold their tail down when it starts wagging and the cat makes an effort to cuddle/have physical contact with the dog)
i always hate how cats are portrayed in media as either downright evil or uncaring, aloof animals that don't give a beep about others. i have two, very loving cats currently that are the opposite of these and i just think it's about time we retire the "evil, uncaring cat" stereotype.
To tell you the truth I have nothing against Nintendo for putting Cats in their Animal crossing games. Lolly is the cutest.
People had a problem with it?? Also, yes, Lolly is my fave!! :D
hell yeah, let's have more positive cat representation
although when it comes to cats in western media, I liked the cat from Bolt. she is introduced as another bad cat at first, and Bolt is used to believing all cats are evil because of his upbringing, but is shown to be wrong when he gets to know Mittens better.
the cat from coroline is the best part of that movie though
He was unpredictable but he certainly wasn't a bad guy. He helped Coraline multiple times
I'm 100% a cat person, and this kind of thing does irritate the hell out of me. Not just because I don't agree that cats are bad, I don't even agree that dogs are good - not with the amount of dogs I've meet who seemed quite ready to tear my face off!
Holy dingus being reminded of Krypto the Superdog existing brought me BACK
“The cat returns”: I’m about to end this videos whole career
Edit: I am making a joke, please don’t think I’m bashing the video. I am aware that she says that there are positive depictions and that she was focusing on western media.
She already stated that there have been postivia depictions of cats in media
She said "WESTERN"
speaking of cats and illnesses, funfact in countries in Europe which where more anti-cat than others the pest spread worse, cuz cats ate the small animals that where host to the fleas which were responsible for the plague
People who hate cats with a burning passion just have that medieval mentality lmao
I don't understand how that would have accelerate the spread.
Hey, here is a positive cat centered animated movie I watched CONSTANTLY as a kid:
"Lucky and Zorba", which is based on the book "Story of a seagull and of the cat that taught her to fly".
It is SO well done, and there such beautiful songs and animated segments.
I'd never heard of it! It looks really cute! I'll check it out
cats are less dependant on humans than dogs and humans dont like that they arent as subserviant, which i assume to be the biggest reason why they have a negative reputation usually
The Warriors books is probably the only media where the cats are the protagonists and where one of their antagonists are dogs
Warriors is a series about cats in the wild, and there are no dog main characters at all, and dogs rarely show up for more then a paragraph anyway. Cats are also seen as antagonists as well, with at least one being presented in each arc. I wouldn't go far enough to say that the dogs are portrayed as 'villains' as the theme, I analysed it as the classic 'cats are scared of dogs' trope.
@@zhongli_simp_lmao7160 Well in the first series there was a little arc on the idea of dogs hunting cats. That in itself is on the better path, finally putting dogs in the cats place for once
@@tomuraukami Yes, but I believe that book is basically the only one book where they are the main threat. In the rest of that arc it was just Fireheart avoiding them on the way to Barley's farm to get there easier. From arc 2 - present, they rarely show up, expect when they chased WindClan around a time each in arc 3 & 4. Personally, I wouldn't say it's challenging stereotypes when they don't show up often enough.
@@zhongli_simp_lmao7160 Enough for it to present a point in the story.
@@tomuraukami Okay, I'm just saying that I *personally* didn't see it as enough support. I'm fine if you do, I just wanted to state on how I saw the situation.
I KNOW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT THE "dog vs cat"THING WAS STUPID, when they both can be friends and get along
I recently got a cat and he’s the most darling child I’ve ever seen. I can take the nipping on my feet now and than it just makes it better when he’s cuddly
As well as my family having many cats, one of which survived hurricane Katrina in New Orleans. My family moved back to reclaim what was left of our house and she was still there. She’s dead now but I remember she was the kindest old cat ever. I remember, sometime before she died, I went to sleep sick and woke up to her curled in my arms. I feel like she still follows me to this day in spirit
Cats are like cuddle dollies filled with blood and guts.
This sort of thing hits harder than it should because in middle school my classmates hated cats. They thought they were evil and mean and all. I had three kittens at the time and they would threaten to follow me home and kill them for that reason like ??? bruh
its funny, because some people will be like 'awh but pitbulls aren't aggressive, they're just playful look at them they're so cute' but when they see a cat they're like 'you're a covenant of evil' and uh 😬
Just once I would love to see the cat as the loving, loyal, heroic one!
My kitten (I call her that but she's 12 now) follows me around the house all the time, sleeps by my side every night, tells me when she feels unwell and needs to go to the vet. Heck she'll seek me out when she's scared or had a nightmare. Even sits in my lap sometimes and gives me kisses! And she's always there for me when I have a bad day. Not to mention that she has the cutest mew I could never find annoying!
I love her to death and I know for a fact she loves me, just wish media would portray cats as just as loving and affectionate as dogs just for once!
pls tell ur kitten i love her
@@DrawpinionDump I will ♥
Cats do so well with introverted people while dogs pair wonderfully with extroverted people.
Lmao no, I am a 100% cat person and very extroverted
@@jakethespoopycat I am not saying extroverts can't be cat people or introverts can't be dog people.
Anyway, what type of cat/s do you got? o:
@@PoutineProductions I got a tabby
@@jakethespoopycat Awe tabby's are super cute!
I've known plenty of dog people have animosity toward cats, but I've never known a cat person have animosity toward dogs.
you should meet my old roommate who would purposely leave my dogs locked up all day when they never needed to be locked up and get mean towards them for no reason. She had cats and the dogs were never interested in the cats. I actually have photos of them sleeping together.
Im a cat person. I like how they have boundaries. Like my cat has to sniff you a few times to get to know you. My dad didn’t do that and randomly grabbed her and she hissed at him. Everyone says “she’s so mean” Uh no, she just doesn’t know who tf you is. And it’s the reason why I’m not much of a dog person, I have boundaries and I don’t like having a dog jump on me and lick my face. People who are more open prob are ok with that.
I hated how Isle of dogs treated cats.
Like, ugh, really? I thought those kind of evil cat stereotype was long dead. But no, isle of dogs had to remind me that I and my little baby cat were _evil_ just because.
I've been asking my mom for a cat for almost 5 years now and she always tries to round it back to "but wouldn't you like a dog? They're friendlier!". I get why we wouldn't get a pet because of space, but I don't like that she only talks about cats being mean and cold and that if we had a cat, it would probably just run away from the house to never come back. It just really hurts me how judgemental she is of cats even tho they can be such soft and lovable creatures :'(
Hey you think cats have a bad name in fiction, let's not even get started on arthropods. Like arachnids, insects, crustaceans and friends have it like ten times worse. Those poor things have it worse than snakes, and snakes and literal the devil, aka the root of all evil, in most fiction but at least they(or at least reptiles), are allowed to be intelligent like the other animals. Like unless it's about them they are literally the farmed food in Zootopia or just bugs irl. Like i legit had to make an anthro animal setting where insects were intelligent like the other animals being anthro in the setting before i saw one. I started writing this setting since 2015 and i saw bojack horseman pop up around the same time and idk if they even showed anthro bugs have speaking roles until like season 3! Like someone please just care about the arthropods PLEASE!
Not arguing against you here, but arthropods are pretty much all non-intelligent creatures irl (to put is _very_ lightly), so it's understandable why they are portrayed like that in fiction.
@@lvlen-125 actually that's not really true.some invertbrates do display more intillgence then poeple give them credit for.
For example black widows will be very cautious with dangerous prey and if say a leg gets hurt they will make a cast out of their silk.praying mantis and jumping spiders are also known for being decently smart.also don't forget squids and octopuses are in these groups and are extremely smart.
More and more we are finding out that a lot of animals are smart.
Just a small correction, but squids and octopi are cephalopods, not arthropods. They don’t have jointed legs or exoskeletons.
Taranza, if you need an example of a decently written arthropod. Also, do you remember Miss Spider's Sunny Patch Friends? I used to enjoy that show when I was younger.
Another fact is that we as humans for some weird reason expect every animal to behave as dogs, so when people find out that cats are not showing love 24/7 like dogs then we start to call them selfish and other stuff.
Yeah cause some people can't accept that they can't control animals, especally cats.
@@ivagrujic248 the same way you don’t want people to call all cats selfish, don’t generalize all dogs as gullible and easily controllable, implying dog owners as egotistical control freaks. It’s hypocritical. Some dogs are the exact opposite, some cats aren’t independent at all
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so it's really a matter of breed and personality
@@enzo3217 sometimes. Not always. Huskies don’t necessarily all act the same and mixed breeds certainly are different from one another
@@nashawnlivingston2965
Okay
The way cats act really depends on their personality, but also how their owners treat them. If you treat them with kindness and respect, chances are that's what they'll return to you. Sometimes I just won't be having a good day and I'll sit down on the floor or lie down on my bed, and my cat will notice and lay down beside me. If I'm crying, sometimes she'll even lick my face to wipe away my tears. She's such a sweetheart.
Gurl, you know that I used to watch _Krypto the Superdog_ back in the day too! Consider yourself OFFICIALLY VALIDATED[™️]✔
(crying) thank you............
I loved that show! We used to watch it with my sister!
This makes me so sad because it is so true! I’m sick of cats being viewed negatively for the most narcissistic, possibly misogynistic reasons. The hate of cats unearned outside of the feral populations. I used to have animosity towards dog lovers TBH
We need more people talking about this.
i had a cat who always scratched and hissed at me . I loved her nonetheless and always fed her . Despite seeming like she hated me , she saved my life twice ( once from a scorpion and another time she dashed at me to get me away from a snake ) . It taught me that each of us haas their own love language and just because someone doesn't show it , doesn't mean they're bad or hate .
And I subscribed when you said Isle of dogs should've ben about cats . It would've added so much depth.
My cat is the most loving animal I've ever known, she even jumps up and paws at my leg for attention!
All the hate towards cats has made me start to hate dogs.
Moood. I didn't really like dogs in the first place, they're loud and overstimulating a lot of the time...
I already hated dogs anyway, but the obnoxious worship for them makes me hate them even more
Maybe you should get to know a few dogs. You might find that you actually like them. Or you might find out that you don’t. Either is ok. It just seems better to me to base your opinion of a type of animal off of the animals themselves and not how people talk about them. After all, I can’t count the number of people who think they hate cats up until they meet one.
@@laurataylor385 I have a dog. She hates me.
@@laurataylor385 I do, quite a few. I only really like the ones that are more quiet or reserved.
oh boy, i relate to getting stuck in the tv tropes rabbit hole...
also YES, as a cat lover i'm also sick of cats being misrepresented...
i like the warriors books because most characters in those are cats, and therefore there's a lot of diverse character tropes that the cats fit into.
Funny how cats are depicted as feminine and dogs masculine when guys like to flaunt being independent, calm, and great hunters, which is exactly what a cat is.
I love cats and love to rescue them 🥰
My cat is such a sweetheart, when I’m crying or feel sick she walks into my room and cuddles with me
I have three cats and two dogs. Most of my family are dog people except for my little brother and me. One thing that really annoys me is when my mother and father call our cats cat-dogs. In my parents and many other's eyes, if a cat doesn't fit your stereotype, they are a cat-dog. All three of my cats are kind and cuddly, but as a result of that, are deemed cat-dogs.
1:51 i saw a few episodes but for some reason the kids annoyed me i also think its about how the feminine cats and masculine dogs. The little boy gets the dog and the little girl gets the cat.
Krypto and the Superdog... I hadn't know about that show for a long time, it was erased from my memory
I used to love it as a child... so much nostalgia
Tbf there's already a cat island in japan.
Cats can live on an island pretty easily. They'll even live in colonies without much trouble. Dogs would immediately form packs based on non-related hierarchy, and defend territories and food. This would eventually even out after bloodshed.
Feral cats want nothing to do with people.
Feral dogs will outright attack people.
But I'm not talking tropes, I guess.
imagen this:
a movie where at first, we think the dogs are the good guys, and our protagonist is either a dog or a person with a dog.
maybe even add a prey animal that cats chase like a mouse or bird to really make us beleive that the cats are at least mean.
but we eventally see a cat and the protagonist befriends them and realises that they arent inheritly bad. in fact, the protagonist realizes that cats are suffering because of these sterotypes.
here, we see that both sides aren't 100% good.
the "majorities" side dislikes cats due to sterotypes. at the least, they just don't treat cats as well as other animals...at the worst.... cats are banished or even killed on sight.
but the cats aren't 100% innoceant. either being rude to others out of anger, or even trying to harm our protagonists, because "they hurt us so we hurt them!"
but of course not everyone is like that.
some cats are either fearful or chill with our protagonists.... and some of the majorty(yknow. dogs birds rodents ect) don't think cats are bad.
at the end our protagonists journey, the truth about cats is revealed. they arent all bad. yes some could be, but not all of them. every speicies is capable of being good and evil, and we shouldn't just assume things because of some miss-information or sterotypes.
can we just...picture that.
a movie showing us the harm that sterotypes and prejiduce can cause? how everything is not always black and white?
i'd love that honestly. and to make it even better, have both (or all three) protagonists be equally as useful and important.
the cat protagonist doesn't even have to lazy and sneaky...instead they could be cautious, easily startled, and observent. why? because of the way people see cats. and because cats are predator and prey, who are usuallly very cautious.
the dog protagonist could still be loyal, but also loud and passoinate about their beliefs to the point where they can be a bit stubborn. dogs are pack animals, and tend to be strong right?
im not too good at explaining things, but to make it short:
story about cats being persecuted, dog and cat become friends and equally important protagonists, dog and cat work together to show that the sterotypes are wrong.
both sides shouldn't be 100% good or 100% bad
1: it wouldn't be too fair.
2: not everyone in the "majority" support misstreatment and seggragation.
3: those who are mistreated let out their pain and anger in many ways....sometimes negetivly.
Yes!
There's a children's book called All Cats Have Asperger's comparing many cat traits to autistic traits (portrayed positively). I think about that book a lot when I see discussion of our bias against cats.
If I was a villain I would have a pug which I would keep in my lap to pet while monologuing.
Also it would have a robot suit to destroy our enemies, just cause.
Im creating a story where one of my ocs animal motif is a cat. Shes extroverted, nice, and loves physical contact. While her sister motif is a dog whos introverted and in genral kinda of mean. People mostly think cats are introverts, but there are some cat breeds that are pretty active
Fun fact: the ratio of men and women burned during the Spanish Inquisition varies radically between countries. In many places it was actually fairly equal, and in Iceland more men were targeted than women
My family and especially myself have always been cat people. It's not that I don't like dogs there just not as small and lovable and easy to like as cats are.
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@@Zealox sorry to disappoint you. I'm not much of a dog person. I don't hate them I just really love cats.
@@TFormers2002 please read your comment again, especially the last line
@@TFormers2002 your original comment I mean
@@KezanzatheGreat relax. The original comment had a mistake and now it is corrected. I am a cat person myself. The commenter accidentally made a mistake while writing his comment and now he edited it and corrected it. Relax