The first time I saw Dart Frog products at PrincessAuto I started laughing and taking photos, the 2 old men in the same aisle were looking at me like I was crazy.
9:28 This Game Theory reference makes me realize how both LTT and GT are both large channels where the husband is the main nerdy presenter and the wife manages the financial/business side of the channel
Was about to say that. It's same as with some of the sensor size, like the "Micro 4/3". It's 4/3" when counting the vidicon tube radius the respective active area would be attached to.
@@nickbrn60what's even the point of this phrase if you're gonna use it on information that actually adds to the video? i think you're the one that needs to touch grass here lol
@Well, fwiw, the hosts and the writers aren't as savvy as the people in the labs department. So I wouldn't judge them too harshly on that, for something that's that off the cuff/off script.
That's a generic Chinese mouse that gets rebranded. That same model gets reproduced EXTREMELY often~ the original version of it I had was the AULA Ghost Shark
Specially, the tech theory gaming pack which cost them 29$ usually is around 10 to 15$ where I live 😂 but it's popular in cafe's cause it's cheap to replace. And yes I used those keyboard, mouse and headphones, cheap but for what it costs isn't really bad as a gift for kids or people using laptops.
Haha. AULA. I bought my grandma an AULA keyboard and she loves it (also loves 'the pretty lights'). It is mechanical although the switches are not replaceable but it feels decent for a 20$ keyboard and was much better than the shitty super slim keyboard that came with her iMac.
I had a red dragon keyboard and a $20 mouse from Canada computers that worked great for years. Ive upgraded now but I had no issues with either of them and they had no impact on my gaming. Red dragon really is a solid budget option as my steelseries keyboard was almost $200Cad and my custom one was probably around $250. Even my mouse is almost $100.
I have a Devrajas keyboard from them that I _loved_, especially after swapping the keys with Akko "Sponge" tactile switches. Unfortunately it started shorting out, so I switched to a Keychron, and will be trying to fix the Devrajas as a project. The Perdition MMO mouse, on the other hand, has been phenomenal. Both the G600 and Naga have had issues with cat hair messing with the optical sensor, but the Perdition has been completely bug free. None of these mice lasted more than 3 years, so if it makes it that long, it's a clear winner IMO, even if the software is jank as hell.
I've been daily driving a red dragon red switch mechanical keyboard in my home office for the last 3 years. The thing has had spills on it, been dropped and taken a ton of gaming abuse. It's deck is even bending in the middle and bowing a bit from all the pressure on it over the years. All this aside, it still works perfectly and has given me zero reason to replace it after all this time. I paid $35 CAD for it 3 years ago.
Not as impressive, but I still have a CM Storm (CoolerMaster) $30 USD mouse and keyboard bundle from 2015 maybe and both still work perfectly fine, I upgraded a couple of years ago and keep them tucked away in case of emergency or I just need another set for whatever reason.
well, its too high of a charge anyway. if someone would argue about it being a "bomb" and showing it his supervisor yeah you have a hassle BUT the supervisor if properly schooled will tell the security that they are kinda dumb. if the security is properly schooled and the charge is below, i think it was 100wh per powerbank, you are totally fine. no proper schooled security will think mosfets and smds are exlusive to bombs.
I'm a high school student in charge of the sports division of my media class and I just wanted to say as you guys have been getting better and better, you guys have been in spring me to push myself and my team to do the same. Thanks for all you do!
I've actually used red dragons mouse's before. Not all of the RGB on the mouse worked properly, and overtime, the internal battery doesn't last super long. The core functions of the mouse plugged in work well enough and my particular model is more comfortable for than the logictec g502 (different designs which is the primary factor). The 502 feels much nicer in both build and functionality though, but red dragon worked for me for cheap items to start with.
Redragon does decent products for the price, for a normal "non hardcore gamer" or home office usage. I used a mechanical keyboard and a mouse from them, and I never had anything to complain about.
don't use a dark mat for testing mice heh [former technical school instructor] some mouse detectors have issues with dark, light absorbing surfaces, when not a visible laser emitter (little red light under the mouse that you should not look at hehe) esp. if you are using a known-decent mouse and it's losing sync or not tracking well... put it on a coloured mat with a pattern that the mouse can detect changes in easily (the little changes are how it detects movement) [note that of course it could be other things like the USB cable being sensitive or borky, connection loose, etc etc] nice finds though
yeah so called technical fucking expert. did it have this in testing? no... should of been a : o i know why moment. i had mice that ran absolute shit on a black surface. but when i used these mousepads with tons of art on it. they worked like 20 times better.
oh I'd still call Mr.Linus an Expert, even if it is from lifelong experience and not formal training, I didn't mean to insult...@@miciso666 I'm glad you found it all out yourself (with the artwork on the pad) way to go!
@@miciso666 They also only tested a few games with only a few settings for some recent GPU(probably all of them were in this fashion), while Hardware Unboxed tested way more games, with way more settings. This "lab" hasn't actually done anything for the standard stuff this channel covers at all.
The manufacturing of products that are E-Waste pisses me off. This is the world we created for ourselves by not making our own products. In the end, it will cost us everything.
FWIW, I have an older model Deathadder for my rig, and I mostly love it. The program for controlling the RGB on it is an older version of the program I use for my keyboard RGB despite both being Razer, but I guess that's just Razer being Razer.
So that can't turn around issue in halo infinite is actually a glitch in the game I experienced it as well. Can't remember exactly how I fixed it but it has something to do with controller input. Those mice still sucked though
I have an old Logitech g100s that still loses tracking at low sensitivity/low dpi settings but I LOVE the shape and the plastic used in making it. What I've learned is it comes down to changing/raising your sensitivity in game and using the "Native DPI" until the mouse is tracking at least a bit more then a 180 Degree turn. OR while using the mouse at its "Native DPI" using Raw Accel and finding a niche Acceleration curve to meet your needs even if it means deep diving into acceleration and deceleration this can easily save your retro tech that you can't bare to let go.
that wireless mouse you used in the comparison is what I use for school and work, bc its good enough for me to click things 4000+ times bc the program my work uses doesn't always pay attention to clicks so you have to spend the first 20 minutes of your day clicking one thing to get the prep system open
I used my Razer DeathAdder 2013 until late last year (it had started double clicking on both the left and center buttons and got tired of taking it apart to fix that with a cleaning.) But it was perfect ergonomically for me and performance is pretty great on top of lasting over 10 years. I repleaced it with the white Razer DeathAdder Essential, and couldn't be happier. It's nearly identical (sans the actual rubberized side grip and the braided cable) and was SUPER cheap.
It's Razor's software that causes the double click issue. I had one of their mice for about six months and could never get it to stop double clicking everything, it was a nightmare. I switched back to logitech and have not had any issues since. That was like 9 years ago, the fact that Razor still has not fixed the issue is exactly why I haven't owned anything from them since, software is trash.
@@dartmaster5877 bro it is not software. It is china made Omron switches in both old Razer and most Logitech mouse. I had same era DeathAdder as the guy above, I put in Japan made Omron switches and it lasted me years, stopped using it, when it started look awful, because it was so worn down. Since that I had Steelseries and like 3 Logitech mouse and both G102/G203 had double click issues. Got a G305 now and I just accepted that I will need to replace the switches. BTW. I have yet to use peripheral that software for isn't completely shit. One thing good about logitech software is that You can change the settings, send the config to the mouse and remove the software, never use it again.
That first mouse is the EXACT same shell as my old "arachnid" mouse. From what i recall arachnids products were actually pretty acceptable for their price, granted all of their stuff was mass produced chinese gear that brands got to slap a label on and sell as their own. The mouse worked well for 6-7 years, it was about on par with other budget mice in terms of tracking etc, click inputs were no problem up intil it started to go all funkybunky after these 6-7 years. I really liked the shape of it tho! Fit my hand very well and kept my fingers from spilling over and rubbing across my mousepad (big deal for someone with sensory issues) BTW that "fire button" is a macro that spams left-click :D They also sold keyboards aswell, these were probably their best product with the one i had being a METAL chassis TKL with actual cherry red switches for like 60 euro! Both of these came with a DVD for the software, the keyboard let you make fully customizable profiles for both the RGB and inputs, the mouse would also let you change from a few premade RGB profiles and change up the inputs. Now a thing that this questionably real brand "Arachnid" was their headsets, they had about 3 different models at different prices from around 40-100 euro. I only got to try their cheap and midrange sets and both SUCKED, the cheap set were all plastic body and i kid you not they SNAPPED IN HALF after they fell like one foot, this happened TWICE btw. The "midrange" set was a bit better with more metal and tolerable sound quality, but they still snapped in half in the plastic after a one foot drop.. The brand did go under a few years back, probably for good reason as they only really had one good product with me mouse being acceptableish.
the mouse with the T on it has a wired version (10$ USD) which I've been using for years with no issues. if you're really on a tight budget, like a high schooler building their first gaming setup, I highly recommend it.
The wireless one is better. It's WIRELESS, and costs about the same. Win-win. Neither one is really super good for competitive gaming, but for casual games or productivity stuff, they're great.
@@t0njemy dude, the battery lasts about a year, and cost less than $1. If that's a problem for you, I'm sorry for your life, but you probably shouldn't be using a computer, as the electricity is too expensive.
i would like to mention that i have bought a higher end T-Dagger mouse and it has served me very well it has proper software and tracks pretty well, it did cost me around 30 GBP so it is more expensive but it works well
Linus' point about second hand stuff is real. I've been using a 2016 Razer Black Widow Ultimate keyboard for over a year that I got from Goodwill for $9.99 for over a year now. Never thought I'd daily drive a Razer, but I'm impressed! Especially for the price. This was before I was able to upgrade to the $3k machine I have now. Because of that, I've intentionally left the sticker on it. Gotta remember where I came from.
My previous mouse was a cheap €7 Logitech mouse, that was just a boring gray wired mouse, but did the job just fine for 4 years, including gaming (where other mice broke in a year or few months). It had no fancy features, it was just a simple mouse that worked well. I replaced it cause I wanted an ergo mouse, NOT because it stopped working. I still have it sitting somewhere, and it's fully functional. If you want cheap peripherals, just buy the basic boring products from reputable brands, instead of buying fancy cheap garbage from unknown brands, that will be problematic and break soon.
There are some lesser brands that deliver decent low cost products which are perfectly fine. Hama, SpeedLink, Sharkoon. These are very basic products but they take years to go wrong. But all of these have been around for 20 years so they aren't exactly here today gone tomorrow, and they only use Pixart sensors not the Jingzhi ones unlike the mouse in this video. I have seen new Chinese brands establish which do decent products but the prices aren't cheap, because parts aren't cheap and are imported.
@@SianaGearz I guess you're right. Now that I've thought about it more, I've also had stuff from known brands end up being garbage, like an HP mouse I had before the Logitech one, that was a piece of junk and broke in like 6 months.
as a princess auto employee i always saw these and thought it was fucking hilarious. as soon as i saw the video i was like "no way finally" then linus mentioned our store. its insane how happy i am. (also fyi we are not an automotive store like most assume. we sell mostly trade/farm tools. its almost like a walmart for tools and the such.)
The funny thing about the brand name is that dart frogs are brightly colored and very toxic, so predators avoid eating them. Some other jungle, non-toxic frog species copy the dart frog's coloring to piggyback off of their protection. So dart frog mimicking Razer's packaging is quite ironic
That mouse that was in the Gaming Kit - I got one from Dollarama in Nanaimo for ... $4.00 CAD. Obviously not for gaming, but when I packed my laptop for a work trip to Tofino, I forgot my mouse at home. Works well enough in emergencies.
Linus' wrap up is spot on. Not only are they unusable and more marketing buzz words than actual substance, they're also instant e-waste even before they come out of the box and if there's one thing we can use way less of is more plastic and electronics ending up in landfills and the ocean.
I also purchased some of these products and I was also shocked by their poor performance. The worst part is they cost the same as reputable brands. Next time I'll do my research.
I daily drive the rk68 if I'm still allowed to call it that. I've exchanged stabilisers, Switches and Keycaps and filled the whole damn thing with a poron mat between the plates and a silicon pour. But that's honestly just because it's one of the only Backplates that supports ISO and I'm so happy with how it turned out
I used that exact same wireless mouse like 7-8 years ago in high school. Some whatever name off on Amazon. Had very little money and couldn’t work. It served me well through years of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Dishonored, Minecraft, and Insurgency with the bros
While I know this goes out of the budget entirely Spending $70 on a Deathadder v3 wired. Zero complaints, light, no blinking lights at you and a great sensor
This is a good video, after my first Corsair K95, I've bought the rest used, apparently they do not like liquids spilled on them, currently on keyboard number 3 (probably could've stuck with keyboard #2), now at the XT version with number 3. Corsair Tech support was terrible but it turned out that if I put one UBB 3 on a different controller (on the mobo) then the other then it would work fine, I would've saved some money if I had figured this out (do not put the USB plugs next to each other (in an ASUS mobo), put one in USB 3 and one in USB 2 and it'll work without erroneous key presses, (something which Corsair didn't suggest). They have been all great, I would not go back to anything less than a K70. I prefer brown cherry switches but that's just me. As for mice, I have a G502 latest gen but use the the first gen 502 for work to this day. The only other mouse I use for one of my old computers is the OG MX518, 10+ years which still works.
@linustechtips, what I’ve found is that a cheap laser mouse works better against a white pad. Test it out that way. At the end of the day, though, a mouse should work with whatever surface you are on.
I can hard recommend Red Dragon. I bought the K556 for $60 a year ago and it's been an amazing purchase. Solid, good mechanical keys, and a great price
As a non-competitive gamer, the Razer Essential mouse is actually hard to beat for value. I have a couple $70-100 wireless gaming mice and like them less than the $24 Razer mainly due to ergonomics when playing for a handful of hours straight. Performance wise my $100 Logitech lightspeed is better, but I mostly play single player games like CP2077, Horizon, TLOU, etc.
If Dart Frog saved on the packaging, and invested in the hardware - that could probably have been decent products. And they could have even marketed with that: "Spend on the product, not the box". But you know... when companies are ran by marketing departments, marketing gets big, everything else gets sacrificed and... you end up with a dead on arrival brand.
Hey I have that little Tek Eagle mouse for my laptop. Wouldn't use it for hardcore gaming, but 100% gets the job done for casual use and lite gaming. Was only like $7.99
I've been dedicated to logitech M510 mice for a long time. Probably 15 years or so. Gone through a few mice, always the same issue. After 3-5 years the left click starts to wear out to the point it gets a little finicky. Occasionally misses a click, but more often it will doubleclick from a single click (if you hold it just right, it basically flutters and just has rapid random clicking). But, for a wireless mouse i always got for around $20, that functions perfectly fine in all my games and is pretty ergonomic for my larger hands, it's tough to beat. Sad to see such complete junk list for MSRP near the same price
I have about 6 of those Eastern Times (and its various other brandings) mice out at various clients. I've never had one fail in more than 5 years of recommending them. They are a phenomenal value for what they are. Like Linus said, they aren't really a 'gaming' mouse, but as a basic desktop mouse, they are excellent.
FYI, those crappy cheap mice dont track on mousepads. i have the same issue at my job all the time with my users. just set it directly on the desk or countertop.
Logitech G305 is one of the best mice you can get for under $100 IMO. It's wireless, fairly light weight, uses a single AA battery, and regular can be picked up for $35.
it's amazing how non bearded linus still hasn't caught up with the main channel upload schedule
Did you even watch 1 minute into the video? hes right there at 1:18
@@wbaba34Well yeah, the sponsor spots are way more recent due to how they work.
😂 he means the actual video not the segue sir
@@wbaba34 The sponsor spots are recorded after the actual video and just edited in
@@Tristinus pretty sure it's a YT only... (don't have FP)
The first time I saw Dart Frog products at PrincessAuto I started laughing and taking photos, the 2 old men in the same aisle were looking at me like I was crazy.
t😅😂@areyoufeelingitnowmrkrebs
Princess Auto is an absolute trip. For Americans not familiar with it, imagine if Harbor Freight and Temu merged….
@@adiuntesserande6893princess auto is the equivalent of browsing Amazon but never buying anything
Why take photos object that is real, its happens even not filmed
@@adiuntesserande6893holy shit. It's microcenter on meth. Just having the ability to say "I bought some dart frog from princess auto is wild"
9:28 This Game Theory reference makes me realize how both LTT and GT are both large channels where the husband is the main nerdy presenter and the wife manages the financial/business side of the channel
I didn't get that one... Why "miss him too"? His latest video is from 40min ago
Whats GT?
Both Linus and Matpat's family are the definition of couple goals.
@@govindsharma7738The Game Theorists, the Channel founded by MattPat.
@@AJCrowley0153he’s retiring
Speaker size is measured by the basket size, not the driver/cone size. And the separation is the stereo separation between one side and the other.
@@nickbrn60Ya know what, I actually appreciate the info.
Was about to say that. It's same as with some of the sensor size, like the "Micro 4/3". It's 4/3" when counting the vidicon tube radius the respective active area would be attached to.
@@nickbrn60what's even the point of this phrase if you're gonna use it on information that actually adds to the video? i think you're the one that needs to touch grass here lol
You'd think that LTT would know this when they're positioning themselves as an authority with Labs.
@Well, fwiw, the hosts and the writers aren't as savvy as the people in the labs department. So I wouldn't judge them too harshly on that, for something that's that off the cuff/off script.
That calendar at 0:32 LMAO. Total of 4 hours and 45 minutes of bathroom time, and the fire and re-hire Colton 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah i was laughing at that for awhile
aand here is the first piece of fart frog- I mean dart frog equipment
Stretch to increase height 😂
@@Taavetthe actually said “fart dog” but whatever lol
thats funny@@par6749
@@Taavett*fart dog
That's a generic Chinese mouse that gets rebranded. That same model gets reproduced EXTREMELY often~ the original version of it I had was the AULA Ghost Shark
Yeah I have the same mouse in wireless by "Zelotes". Actually like it but I'm also pretty used to it by now.
Specially, the tech theory gaming pack which cost them 29$ usually is around 10 to 15$ where I live 😂 but it's popular in cafe's cause it's cheap to replace. And yes I used those keyboard, mouse and headphones, cheap but for what it costs isn't really bad as a gift for kids or people using laptops.
Mine was Redragon branded! It was one of their first products I think
I have the zelotes mouse wich is the exact same thing and I prefer it to every other mouse I tried, also it cost 5usd so yeah.
Haha. AULA. I bought my grandma an AULA keyboard and she loves it (also loves 'the pretty lights'). It is mechanical although the switches are not replaceable but it feels decent for a 20$ keyboard and was much better than the shitty super slim keyboard that came with her iMac.
I love how at 13:50 linus says about current pop culture references, while david is literally wearing a top that says "I am Kenough."
I love how Princess Auto is like a treasure trove of random finds, you never know what you'll stumble upon!
princess?!?
Go away scam channel!
Please @LinusTechTips team delete those scammers
@@pztyup
Don't forget the Princess Auto parking lot! There's always some wild hoopties parked there.
bruh
I had a red dragon keyboard and a $20 mouse from Canada computers that worked great for years. Ive upgraded now but I had no issues with either of them and they had no impact on my gaming. Red dragon really is a solid budget option as my steelseries keyboard was almost $200Cad and my custom one was probably around $250. Even my mouse is almost $100.
I have a Devrajas keyboard from them that I _loved_, especially after swapping the keys with Akko "Sponge" tactile switches. Unfortunately it started shorting out, so I switched to a Keychron, and will be trying to fix the Devrajas as a project. The Perdition MMO mouse, on the other hand, has been phenomenal. Both the G600 and Naga have had issues with cat hair messing with the optical sensor, but the Perdition has been completely bug free. None of these mice lasted more than 3 years, so if it makes it that long, it's a clear winner IMO, even if the software is jank as hell.
I've got a Red Dragon mouse, and it still works great. I think it's 10 years old. I don't use it all the time, but it still works.
They are my budget recomendation every day. I use to use their perdition which got renamed to something else and I loved it.
I use both a red dragon mouse and keyboard to this day lol
red dragon mouses are actually very good if you have abnormally wide hands. some of they offerings are perfect for me.
7:12 having the song: I Wish in the background while Linus is growing is an amazing match!!! 😂
Not many songs are out there that I can identify with only two notes, but I guess this is one of them😁
Linus:" were only 32 seconds into this video"
Me: checks video time and it's exactly 32 seconds. (Discovers that I'm impressed easily.)
We approximated it and shot 6 different versions of that take with different numbers, asking the editor to use the one that lined up perfectly
@@linussebastian9495Linus is that really you?
Yeah was on my personal account cuz I was using the player app instead of studio app and I only have premium on my personal - LS
9495? How popular is the Linus Sebastian name?
@@LinusTechTips @linussebastian9495 Fort Minor on your old "pump up" playlist, good choice
2:42 _"Fart Dog"_ Would have been legendary branding no doubt, that alone would get me to buy!
Would probably get sued by Mambo lmao, they've cornered the farting dog market
The precision is measured in scent-imeters, instead of inches.
Fart Dog Mendoza?
That “Zero Punctuation” reference was too clever!
I loved the little ramblomatic dig
Spot on
I've been daily driving a red dragon red switch mechanical keyboard in my home office for the last 3 years. The thing has had spills on it, been dropped and taken a ton of gaming abuse. It's deck is even bending in the middle and bowing a bit from all the pressure on it over the years. All this aside, it still works perfectly and has given me zero reason to replace it after all this time. I paid $35 CAD for it 3 years ago.
I have one with mx blues and it goes so hard for the $30 that I got it at.
Not as impressive, but I still have a CM Storm (CoolerMaster) $30 USD mouse and keyboard bundle from 2015 maybe and both still work perfectly fine, I upgraded a couple of years ago and keep them tucked away in case of emergency or I just need another set for whatever reason.
9:27 "... a game theory thanks for watching"
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to you Matt
Always remember, shaved Linus is coming...
amogus
I'm scared, will we be safe when he comes?
He partially already arrived 1:18... cant they use Ai thingies or like Deepfake to stop this shameless nudity to reach my eyes ???
No it will not, it's all ai i am not ready for it, if we do, we need highschool green hair linus and blonde hair linus
shortcircus linus says hi
You got to love his calender 0:37.
3:15 fire Colton
0:37 Linus spends his time very wisely. On the bathroom. Thats 5 hours total bathroom time!
cry a little, for an hour?
Fire Colton...
Cry a little...
Re-hire colton...
Lolol
16:00 Good luck going through airport security with that power bank lmao
well, its too high of a charge anyway. if someone would argue about it being a "bomb" and showing it his supervisor yeah you have a hassle BUT the supervisor if properly schooled will tell the security that they are kinda dumb. if the security is properly schooled and the charge is below, i think it was 100wh per powerbank, you are totally fine. no proper schooled security will think mosfets and smds are exlusive to bombs.
I love that David is appearing on Camera more, loved the guy since his Extreme Tech Upgrade
This definitely scores a top 10 best SEGUES TO OUR SPONSOR 1:12
100% agree 😂
yeah, it was good
Imagine if they actually did 20 segues.
@@TAMAMO-VIRUS Like the April's fool's video that was only sponsor segments?
9:28 AAAAH THE FEELS.
I don't get it
@@thomasphillips885 matpat=game theory=retiring/quitting youtube i believe march 6..atleast that HIS last gametheory video.
I'm a high school student in charge of the sports division of my media class and I just wanted to say as you guys have been getting better and better, you guys have been in spring me to push myself and my team to do the same. Thanks for all you do!
9:27 made me smile and cry thanks linus ;(
what was it about? didn't get the reference 😞
Same
Scrolled looking for information/the reference, this is all I could find - can anyone explain please?
Hey @TrebzStudio, care to enlighten us? 🙂 Pleeease
captain ?
I've actually used red dragons mouse's before. Not all of the RGB on the mouse worked properly, and overtime, the internal battery doesn't last super long. The core functions of the mouse plugged in work well enough and my particular model is more comfortable for than the logictec g502 (different designs which is the primary factor). The 502 feels much nicer in both build and functionality though, but red dragon worked for me for cheap items to start with.
Redragon does decent products for the price, for a normal "non hardcore gamer" or home office usage. I used a mechanical keyboard and a mouse from them, and I never had anything to complain about.
I am currently rocking a RedDragon Surara keyboard and I love it. Such high quality on a budget.
Even the product recognition has a skill ceiling😂
don't use a dark mat for testing mice heh
[former technical school instructor]
some mouse detectors have issues with dark, light absorbing surfaces, when not a visible laser emitter (little red light under the mouse that you should not look at hehe)
esp. if you are using a known-decent mouse and it's losing sync or not tracking well... put it on a coloured mat with a pattern that the mouse can detect changes in easily (the little changes are how it detects movement)
[note that of course it could be other things like the USB cable being sensitive or borky, connection loose, etc etc]
nice finds though
yeah so called technical fucking expert.
did it have this in testing? no...
should of been a : o i know why moment.
i had mice that ran absolute shit on a black surface. but when i used these mousepads with tons of art on it. they worked like 20 times better.
Style over function. Your comment reminds me of an office setting from [mumble] years ago with transparent desks and, yes, optical mice.
oh I'd still call Mr.Linus an Expert, even if it is from lifelong experience and not formal training, I didn't mean to insult...@@miciso666 I'm glad you found it all out yourself (with the artwork on the pad) way to go!
@@miciso666 They also only tested a few games with only a few settings for some recent GPU(probably all of them were in this fashion), while Hardware Unboxed tested way more games, with way more settings. This "lab" hasn't actually done anything for the standard stuff this channel covers at all.
The manufacturing of products that are E-Waste pisses me off. This is the world we created for ourselves by not making our own products. In the end, it will cost us everything.
ARGH IM SO MAD
FWIW, I have an older model Deathadder for my rig, and I mostly love it. The program for controlling the RGB on it is an older version of the program I use for my keyboard RGB despite both being Razer, but I guess that's just Razer being Razer.
00:37 😂 Gotta love his schedule
So that can't turn around issue in halo infinite is actually a glitch in the game I experienced it as well. Can't remember exactly how I fixed it but it has something to do with controller input. Those mice still sucked though
9:33 yeah dude... I miss him too... 😢
Who is he?
2:53 Shoutout to Second Wind and Yahtzee 😎
I have an old Logitech g100s that still loses tracking at low sensitivity/low dpi settings but I LOVE the shape and the plastic used in making it. What I've learned is it comes down to changing/raising your sensitivity in game and using the "Native DPI" until the mouse is tracking at least a bit more then a 180 Degree turn. OR while using the mouse at its "Native DPI" using Raw Accel and finding a niche Acceleration curve to meet your needs even if it means deep diving into acceleration and deceleration this can easily save your retro tech that you can't bare to let go.
I love how you brought up buying second hand, very great alternative in all fields for hobbies etc.
that wireless mouse you used in the comparison is what I use for school and work, bc its good enough for me to click things 4000+ times bc the program my work uses doesn't always pay attention to clicks so you have to spend the first 20 minutes of your day clicking one thing to get the prep system open
The speakers don't need to sound great, they just need to sound better than the monitor built-in speakers.
Problem is they all end up on landfill rather than being used in people's homes
MatPat isn't even gone yet haha
12:22 those helicopter hands lmao 🤣😂🤣
Linus should make a pc for matpat because he is leaving.
Tech Theory would be a great collab channel.
No
nah
Yes
Sans is actually Freddy Fazbear!? GAME THEORY EPISODE 742
Eat the Rich
I used my Razer DeathAdder 2013 until late last year (it had started double clicking on both the left and center buttons and got tired of taking it apart to fix that with a cleaning.) But it was perfect ergonomically for me and performance is pretty great on top of lasting over 10 years. I repleaced it with the white Razer DeathAdder Essential, and couldn't be happier. It's nearly identical (sans the actual rubberized side grip and the braided cable) and was SUPER cheap.
It's Razor's software that causes the double click issue. I had one of their mice for about six months and could never get it to stop double clicking everything, it was a nightmare. I switched back to logitech and have not had any issues since. That was like 9 years ago, the fact that Razor still has not fixed the issue is exactly why I haven't owned anything from them since, software is trash.
Why did you buy a deathadder essential...
@@dartmaster5877 bro it is not software. It is china made Omron switches in both old Razer and most Logitech mouse. I had same era DeathAdder as the guy above, I put in Japan made Omron switches and it lasted me years, stopped using it, when it started look awful, because it was so worn down. Since that I had Steelseries and like 3 Logitech mouse and both G102/G203 had double click issues. Got a G305 now and I just accepted that I will need to replace the switches.
BTW. I have yet to use peripheral that software for isn't completely shit. One thing good about logitech software is that You can change the settings, send the config to the mouse and remove the software, never use it again.
That first mouse is the EXACT same shell as my old "arachnid" mouse.
From what i recall arachnids products were actually pretty acceptable for their price, granted all of their stuff was mass produced chinese gear that brands got to slap a label on and sell as their own.
The mouse worked well for 6-7 years, it was about on par with other budget mice in terms of tracking etc, click inputs were no problem up intil it started to go all funkybunky after these 6-7 years.
I really liked the shape of it tho! Fit my hand very well and kept my fingers from spilling over and rubbing across my mousepad (big deal for someone with sensory issues)
BTW that "fire button" is a macro that spams left-click :D
They also sold keyboards aswell, these were probably their best product with the one i had being a METAL chassis TKL with actual cherry red switches for like 60 euro!
Both of these came with a DVD for the software, the keyboard let you make fully customizable profiles for both the RGB and inputs, the mouse would also let you change from a few premade RGB profiles and change up the inputs.
Now a thing that this questionably real brand "Arachnid" was their headsets, they had about 3 different models at different prices from around 40-100 euro. I only got to try their cheap and midrange sets and both SUCKED, the cheap set were all plastic body and i kid you not they SNAPPED IN HALF after they fell like one foot, this happened TWICE btw.
The "midrange" set was a bit better with more metal and tolerable sound quality, but they still snapped in half in the plastic after a one foot drop..
The brand did go under a few years back, probably for good reason as they only really had one good product with me mouse being acceptableish.
the mouse with the T on it has a wired version (10$ USD) which I've been using for years with no issues. if you're really on a tight budget, like a high schooler building their first gaming setup, I highly recommend it.
The wireless one is better. It's WIRELESS, and costs about the same. Win-win. Neither one is really super good for competitive gaming, but for casual games or productivity stuff, they're great.
@@Elmojomo the latency issues are awful on the wireless one. I had both, I returned the wireless for the wired
@@Elmojomo Like the commenter said above, wireless products are known to sometimes have caveats compared to their wired counterpart
@@Elmojomo Wireless is better? In what world? Keep buying batteries for it?
@@t0njemy dude, the battery lasts about a year, and cost less than $1. If that's a problem for you, I'm sorry for your life, but you probably shouldn't be using a computer, as the electricity is too expensive.
1:09 "I didn't realize the US army was so into merchandising"
well they have to pay for the crayons somehow
That's the Marines.
"fart dog" at 2:40 had me cackling
I could see Charlie Brown grooving to Crab Rave. Dart Frog remind anyone of Azureus or Vuze? BA DA BA DA DA DA "SHARGE"!
I came here for the love of Princess Auto, got a surprised throwback to Skee-lo that warmed my heart.
i would like to mention that i have bought a higher end T-Dagger mouse and it has served me very well it has proper software and tracks pretty well, it did cost me around 30 GBP so it is more expensive but it works well
7:46: "...10cm, which my wife tells me is a lot" the self burns are getting pretty specific.
4:28 I love that I'm not the only person who wears the I Am Kenough hoodie. 😂
i can CONFIDENTLY say this was the best segway i’ve ever seen on this channel
Linus' point about second hand stuff is real. I've been using a 2016 Razer Black Widow Ultimate keyboard for over a year that I got from Goodwill for $9.99 for over a year now. Never thought I'd daily drive a Razer, but I'm impressed! Especially for the price. This was before I was able to upgrade to the $3k machine I have now. Because of that, I've intentionally left the sticker on it. Gotta remember where I came from.
My previous mouse was a cheap €7 Logitech mouse, that was just a boring gray wired mouse, but did the job just fine for 4 years, including gaming (where other mice broke in a year or few months). It had no fancy features, it was just a simple mouse that worked well. I replaced it cause I wanted an ergo mouse, NOT because it stopped working. I still have it sitting somewhere, and it's fully functional.
If you want cheap peripherals, just buy the basic boring products from reputable brands, instead of buying fancy cheap garbage from unknown brands, that will be problematic and break soon.
There are some lesser brands that deliver decent low cost products which are perfectly fine. Hama, SpeedLink, Sharkoon. These are very basic products but they take years to go wrong. But all of these have been around for 20 years so they aren't exactly here today gone tomorrow, and they only use Pixart sensors not the Jingzhi ones unlike the mouse in this video.
I have seen new Chinese brands establish which do decent products but the prices aren't cheap, because parts aren't cheap and are imported.
@@SianaGearz I guess you're right. Now that I've thought about it more, I've also had stuff from known brands end up being garbage, like an HP mouse I had before the Logitech one, that was a piece of junk and broke in like 6 months.
>$11
I got a similar 1000 dpi one for $2 but not in usa. plastic wears off and you might want to remove the added weight inside
If there where cheep PC components branded "Fart Dog" I would buy them for all my friends.
9:35 Awww. Linus misses Matpat as well.
as a princess auto employee i always saw these and thought it was fucking hilarious. as soon as i saw the video i was like "no way finally" then linus mentioned our store. its insane how happy i am. (also fyi we are not an automotive store like most assume. we sell mostly trade/farm tools. its almost like a walmart for tools and the such.)
The funny thing about the brand name is that dart frogs are brightly colored and very toxic, so predators avoid eating them. Some other jungle, non-toxic frog species copy the dart frog's coloring to piggyback off of their protection.
So dart frog mimicking Razer's packaging is quite ironic
The jokes in this one hit really well. Well done!
That mouse that was in the Gaming Kit - I got one from Dollarama in Nanaimo for ... $4.00 CAD. Obviously not for gaming, but when I packed my laptop for a work trip to Tofino, I forgot my mouse at home. Works well enough in emergencies.
i loved the hamlet reference, after linus said the line it really made me think to myself "to be or not to be"
Linus' wrap up is spot on. Not only are they unusable and more marketing buzz words than actual substance, they're also instant e-waste even before they come out of the box and if there's one thing we can use way less of is more plastic and electronics ending up in landfills and the ocean.
I also purchased some of these products and I was also shocked by their poor performance. The worst part is they cost the same as reputable brands. Next time I'll do my research.
I daily drive the rk68 if I'm still allowed to call it that. I've exchanged stabilisers, Switches and Keycaps and filled the whole damn thing with a poron mat between the plates and a silicon pour. But that's honestly just because it's one of the only Backplates that supports ISO and I'm so happy with how it turned out
I've got to be honest. I don't think I've ever seen somebody grow out their beard this fast, that's impressive
After I heard hey that just a theory I was waiting for him to say hey that's just a throry, a gameee theory!!
I use the Redragon K556 keyboard and M993 mouse. Never had any issues, and work very well for me in Tarkov. Total under $100USD.
theres a goodwill in the middle of nowhere florida that just sells these up front. every time im there i think its the same ones as before
I have a Razer-knockoff mouse called a "T-Dagger Warrant Officer" and it works surprisingly well!
I used that exact same wireless mouse like 7-8 years ago in high school. Some whatever name off on Amazon. Had very little money and couldn’t work. It served me well through years of S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Dishonored, Minecraft, and Insurgency with the bros
Also I can vouch for that Sharge bank, it's a bit spendy, but it's really cool, durable, and holds a ton of charge.
While I know this goes out of the budget entirely
Spending $70 on a Deathadder v3 wired. Zero complaints, light, no blinking lights at you and a great sensor
15:20 oh hey, thats my mouse
This is a good video, after my first Corsair K95, I've bought the rest used, apparently they do not like liquids spilled on them, currently on keyboard number 3 (probably could've stuck with keyboard #2), now at the XT version with number 3. Corsair Tech support was terrible but it turned out that if I put one UBB 3 on a different controller (on the mobo) then the other then it would work fine, I would've saved some money if I had figured this out (do not put the USB plugs next to each other (in an ASUS mobo), put one in USB 3 and one in USB 2 and it'll work without erroneous key presses, (something which Corsair didn't suggest). They have been all great, I would not go back to anything less than a K70. I prefer brown cherry switches but that's just me. As for mice, I have a G502 latest gen but use the the first gen 502 for work to this day. The only other mouse I use for one of my old computers is the OG MX518, 10+ years which still works.
@linustechtips, what I’ve found is that a cheap laser mouse works better against a white pad. Test it out that way. At the end of the day, though, a mouse should work with whatever surface you are on.
@2:43 hahahah Fart Dog, now theres a brand that you dont want to get behind
I can hard recommend Red Dragon. I bought the K556 for $60 a year ago and it's been an amazing purchase. Solid, good mechanical keys, and a great price
As a non-competitive gamer, the Razer Essential mouse is actually hard to beat for value. I have a couple $70-100 wireless gaming mice and like them less than the $24 Razer mainly due to ergonomics when playing for a handful of hours straight. Performance wise my $100 Logitech lightspeed is better, but I mostly play single player games like CP2077, Horizon, TLOU, etc.
If Dart Frog saved on the packaging, and invested in the hardware - that could probably have been decent products. And they could have even marketed with that: "Spend on the product, not the box". But you know... when companies are ran by marketing departments, marketing gets big, everything else gets sacrificed and... you end up with a dead on arrival brand.
The best low budget mouse I bought was the Hyper X Mouse for 13.99$ off the big A... Thanks for the video you guys Rock. :)
13:24 when you go into a gta online night club💀
RIP linus's beard 😢
10:40 it's okay Linus we'll eat you last. :)
An Review of an MX518 today would be epic... I mean, I still use it and have another brand new, still in a boxnot unpacked, as a spare one.
The "Fart Dog" Joke got me good.
David is part camerman so he can still get half of an infinitely long life, which is still infinitely long. 800 iq move there David
Hey I have that little Tek Eagle mouse for my laptop. Wouldn't use it for hardcore gaming, but 100% gets the job done for casual use and lite gaming. Was only like $7.99
Loved the little nod to Yahtzee Croshaw very nice
I was not ready for the Segway with Smooth faced Linus. You weren't either, don't lie.
the fact that a Big Mac is more expensive than the Budget Mice is even more baffling
At 8.17 U.S. dollars, Switzerland has the most expensive Big Macs in the world, according to the January 2024 Big Mac index.
@@Redmanticore what the actual f**k
I've been dedicated to logitech M510 mice for a long time. Probably 15 years or so. Gone through a few mice, always the same issue. After 3-5 years the left click starts to wear out to the point it gets a little finicky. Occasionally misses a click, but more often it will doubleclick from a single click (if you hold it just right, it basically flutters and just has rapid random clicking). But, for a wireless mouse i always got for around $20, that functions perfectly fine in all my games and is pretty ergonomic for my larger hands, it's tough to beat. Sad to see such complete junk list for MSRP near the same price
Did David get upgraded to a Writer? Cause hell yea I freaking love him! He Is "Ken Enough"
Lmao the Zero Punctuation reference was unexpected.
I have about 6 of those Eastern Times (and its various other brandings) mice out at various clients. I've never had one fail in more than 5 years of recommending them. They are a phenomenal value for what they are. Like Linus said, they aren't really a 'gaming' mouse, but as a basic desktop mouse, they are excellent.
Logitech G203 Lightsync can be often bought for less than $20 from sale so it really doesn't make sense to go with any lower quality mouse.
FYI, those crappy cheap mice dont track on mousepads. i have the same issue at my job all the time with my users. just set it directly on the desk or countertop.
I liked the Yahtzee Crowshaw reference there
Logitech G305 is one of the best mice you can get for under $100 IMO. It's wireless, fairly light weight, uses a single AA battery, and regular can be picked up for $35.