Tien Gan (heavenly stem) Nei Gong all 16 exercises

1. Sword Hand
2. Diagonal Chop
3. Covering Palm
4. Reverse Covering Palm
5. Drill and Pull
6. Piercing Palm
7. Hawk Penetrates the Forest
8. Tiger Plays with Ball
9. Rolling Back-Fist
10. Bursting Fist
11. Shoulder Roll
12. Cobra Out of the Basket
13. Drill and Chop
14. Spiral Upward and Press Downward
15. Moving the Mountain
16. Rocking Horse

[@YongnianTaiChiUSA]

Nice. We go deeper in stance. Best part: watching this to the doors “ riders on the storm” on speakers while at a deli :) all the best

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

Thanks brother, I may revisit this set soon and sit deeper in stance. Watching this I think I was a bit lazy with them since I was at very high altitude. Still, Tom favors lesser leg depth for older martial artists and health purposes.
“There are several different methods of performing the Tian Gan Exercises.
Some practitioners favor a very low and extended stance, so that the body
must stretch out to the maximum. Others favor a more natural, upright
posture. In my opinion, as long as the power lines and internal dynamics
are in place, then the performance is correct. The really interesting
question is: What is the specific purpose of each different mode of
practice? My personal viewpoint is that there are essentially three ways of
practicing the Tian Gan Exercises, and each has a different purpose.
The First Method is to practice Tian Gan in deep stances, stretching the
body out to the maximum. This trains power in the legs and hips and
maximizes the spinal extension and contraction. This is a great training
method for younger people who are interested in developing a firm
foundation for martial arts training”

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

“It is not suitable for someone who starts Ba Gua training in their forties, or has chronic injuries or
misalignments of the legs and hips. One might call it the Foundational
Method of practice. It focuses equally on the legs, Dantian and the Tian
Gan, and works with long power lines”

[@davescheffler3383]

Thank you! Just what I was looking for! Much easier to understand watching it live than just from pictures and words in a book.

[@ervinpoljak8332]

Thank you for sharing this.

[@noelrobinson6841]

There is an excellent demonstration and instruction of tian gan on Kungfu Kilkenny.

[@torstenbeck640]

Nei Gong seems to be the pinnacle of the human body stabillity, after you learn smt else.
Keep floating in waves,
Understand the human body, understand the waves in combat,
enjoy it !

[@wtfgeis]

You don't happen to be in Boulder, Colorado, do you?

[@nobodyshere5994]

Which is the main goal on these exercises? To stretch and strenghten the fascia, tendons, ligaments???

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

Thanks for your comment. Tien Gan refers to the spine. In practice, along with what you stated, the exercises rotate different sections of the spinal levels

[@nobodyshere5994]

@@Taichidoc_Needleflow thnx for the answer

[@d14bolus]

Hey not bad. There are many variations of Tien Gan. Is there a particular school or teacher you reference? For example some people like Mike Patterson's sets. Which are a bit different than his teacher Hsu Hong Ji. Some like Hung I Hsiangs version but his student Luo Dexiu has modified and changed them a bit. The latter being more geared for Baguazhang.

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

Hi thanks for commenting, I learned this version from Tom Bisio

[@d14bolus]

@@Taichidoc_Needleflow I like Mr.Bisio. His books are a great read. Luke do are you a Bagua practitioner?

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

@@d14bolus I’m a pretty novice Bagua practitioner. I learned a few qigong sets from Tom as part of TCM study over many years, specifically tui na and bonesetting. I am however a pretty decent Chen stylist.

[@d14bolus]

@@Taichidoc_Needleflow that is cool. I love it all. I find it very fascinating. I have studied Sun style tai chi. Also some of the Hunyuan stuff. Good to make your acquaintance.

[@KelvindeWolfe]

It’s technically not Nei gong until you do that without moving.

[@torreyap]

Is the mosquito slap a part of the Nei Gong? 😂 Exercise #17, mosquito bites the dust.

[@Taichidoc_Needleflow]

@@torreyap high level nei gong if you can ignore them 😅

[@JDBoelter]

I see that Bisio is now offering an online course on this system. I'm interested, but it isn't cheap ($160, with all the exercises in 3 different formats). Obviously you know and like Bisio, but how worthwhile (in your experience) is this practice, compared to, say, Xing Yi Nei Gong...assuming you have an opinion? (I like what I know of Bisio, he seems sincere and knowledgeable).

[@timm285]

All exercises have a worth. There is no way to know which is better or worse for you. I would say that, if you have a specific activity/sport, see if the qi gong set makes you better at that.
The alignments for xyng and tian gong are the same. Xyng, imo, is better as a general conditioning(strength) and warming up set. Tian gong however will work your stance and stability more since you can control how high the horse stance is. Tian gan(this version) is more about range of motion.
If you want to focus on developing power in striking, and want to save money, buy Mike Patterson’s tian gan dvd. It’s cheaper and Mike was former fighter of sorts. Hope this helps.

[@JDBoelter]

@@timm285 Many thanks, very helpful and well judged reply!