I’ve only just discovered you and have enjoyed your comprehensive tyre videos. You are an excellent presenter - clear, easy to follow, and speak at a nice fast pace. I’m going to try your combination of SC1 front and TD rear on my S1000RR and see how we go.
wow , thats a huge compliment , much much appreciated . I haver some Dunlop and continental videos lined up too so I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy making them :)
Hahaha Daniel , you know what , not only I said 58 mins , I actually typed it too on there . How the hell I didn’t realise it while typing lol . But I am glad people understand it though Phewww , saves me correcting on video description. Cheers for watching , good attention to detail , no one mentioned this in the comment section. Lol
Thank you for this much appreciated video. Will research a little further as looking at fitting slicks for the first time during a return trip to Portimao in June.
Fantastic, happy to be of help My pace has much improved since this video but I still use the metzeler TD and I absolutely love it Do not use it if the ambient temperature is too too high They start to slide at fast pace
Im fairly new to motorcycling, but i can already tell that i want to go racing(On a budget of course). So this vid was wonderfully informative, thanks for sharing!
Very interesting point mate, I am playing with the pressures too on these , I have heard many people trying 27 or 28 psi in hotter euro track events, so far this tyre hasn't let me down or given me nasty surprises
Extremely good video. I have been considering slicks for a couple of years and the release of this td slick has convinced me. Also cheaper than my recent r11’s.
Thank you very much Stephen , I have tried the R10 but never the R11, always heard good stuff though about them . I think if you move to slicks , definitely give these a try . Hope they will be ok for you , honestly they don’t demand rocket fast pace to get working . Thanks for appreciating the video and commenting on it mate
😂😂😂 that’s so funny , I remember buying a set of wets and Pirelli racing slicks together before the racing season and I thought what the hell, tyres are so expensive, but metzeler is still keeping costs in check compared to Pirelli at times . So let me know how you got on Phill, cheers mate, all the best
Great video Abhi. This really helped me due to the fact that I am moving from using a road bike to a track bike. I have used my road bike on track several times but as I have started advancing in my pace I felt not to risk my road bike so got a track bike and was looking for a tyre such as the Metzeler td slicks. I am now convinced that this tyre would really suit my need. Thank you again for this informative video! Ride safe!
I agree with all of your reasons for using tire warmers in an advance group. For me I ran them intentionally without warmers. Also, for me there seemed to be a 3-4psi range in pressure that all worked the same. Great video.
Thats brilliant Jason, I am curious to know how did you find them without warmers, any thermal degradation issues or cold tears or blisters on the surface, were you happy with everything? And what were the ambient temperatures that day? it would be very interesting to know your feedback.
You CAN run them cold, but they last a bit longer if you preheat (keep heated all day) AND you can go full throttle from 1st corner with warmers. Buy a cheap set of warmers
Regarding the warmers, I've run Supercorsa SC1/SC2 and the old Metzeler CompK slicks without warmers. They are not plastic blocks when cold and work perfectly fine. If you push too hard too fast maybe you could overcome them, but tearing is likely to be a greater issue. People also underestimate how well you warm your tyres by riding and overestimate their tyre warmers. Leave tyre warmers on for an hour and the surface will be hot but the rim probably lukewarm at best. But go out on cold slicks in the morning, do your 3 sighting laps and come into the pits to check. You'll find that not only are your tyres hot but your rim will be too. Who knew that 100+ hp would heat your tyres quicker than 1KW of tyre blankets..
ive used them been through 2 sets as track and intermediate race...really like them...the pressure is about right. I have a race this sunday, and the tyres have been on since last jan 2020, and due to covid have not been used. Still bit of life but debating to use them again, or get a new set as not sure on shelf life sitting on the bike for 1.5 years not used...
Thats a long time mate with no use, if the tyres were lifted from the ground , bike on paddock stands, you should be ok , with no flat spot issues. Also, a lot of people underestimate the effect of cold ground passing through tyre rubber if not on paddock stands. Also, if you think your wear is already less then you might as well buy a new set or rear . Let me know how it goes , I wish you well on your race after so long , you must feel slightly rusty with all due respect.
hahaha,,,sorry,i know i shouldn't lol,but the pic you choose to demonstrates how tire warmer are crucial for the first few laps and the confidence ...woaw,that is shocking,after seeing it i guess a lot of riders will run fast to their fav dealer and get a tire warmer set right there LOL. a very important point for me is that,tire warmers kind of extracts the max of the lifespan of the tires ,and their performance too . as for the racetec TD i've been on the fence to try a set.i uses pirelli SC's tires for track days,but hey,they're the same company in fact and i heard good things about the TD's i think i'm gonna try a set on my track day R1's....funny enough we're both the same kind of aggressive rider on the brakes. people say i'm a devil on the brakes and true the SC front holds very well in that matter .on another note, you pointed out DAVE MOSS as credible reference in matter of suspension.well said man. for me, DAVE MOSS is my guru in matter of suspension..to me the suspension set up being the most important part for fast lap times,and general stability of the bike. very good detailed review of those tires Abhi. as usual, very informative.
Thanks Sylvan as always , very good points there , I especially like the point where you mentioned that tyre warmers can actually in a way extract the maximum from a tyre. Really good point that . Dave is really clever , I quite like him very much and he always says sensible stuff and Is very just to people from all riding groups . Good luck on track this coming year mate , see how you get on , if you are going well on your Perreli tyres then you don’t need to move on to something else . Something isn’t broken then don’t fix it but feel free to try , if you do then let me know . Cheers Much appreciated your views mate
Hey Abhi, as always you push out good material here for us 'track junkies'. Although I'm in Inters I don't think I'm worthy of any slicks, but then I do have to ride my bike to the circuit and my Mrs follows in the S3 with all the track crap I need for the day. and slicks won't pass the MOT at InMoto for me, even tho I sort of know the guys there. I have a set of Michelin Cup 2s ready for 2022 season which are basically a slick compound with a few small cuts in the middle and 3 inches of bare slick from the outside and are actually road legal, it has been raved about and tested by the best, even ex racer Sylvain Guintoli and Dave Moss, the suspension Guru. I got in touch with Sylvain and Dave last year for some recommendations on cold temp settings, they're awesome guys, like yourself because they take the time to reply with good sound advice. I've had the suspension setup by RaceLab, turning an awesome handling bike into a super awesome handling bike. As you yourself know 😉
Hey Gio , Looks like you ticked all the boxes there , those Cup 2s are brilliant tyres if someone isn't wanting to move to slicks yet or has a road/track bike. And yup , I did see that Video of Guintoli and Dave Moss on that tyre, well respected guys , really thorough. what a coincidence that I mentioned both those guys in this video. Good to see you are doing all the right things mate. Well done , thanks for watching and supporting as always with your detailed comment.
Enjoying your videos Just ordered a set of racetek K1 slicks (they will be my fist set of slicks) these are being discontinued here in the USA I will get the TD slick version next
Brilliant Miguel , thanks for the support and following and appreciation. Hope you enjoy those Racetec slicks , they are pretty good , really deal well why track undulating surfaces and varied temps
Useful video was planning on trying the metzler TD next. Would love to see a video on what wet tires to use for cold wet UK trackdays now I have some spare wheels.
Hey Steven , thanks for the comment. Yeah these Metzeler TD are great , well there’s a well known rumour in the paddock that Bridgestone W01 are the best wets but Pirelli wets are right up there too . But you have given me food for thought , I’ll do a video on the wets soon
Nice one Abhi! After watching your progress with these tyres have made the switch from Dunlop TTs and got a set of these for Andalucia in a couple of weeks which am V excited about mate. Awesome content as always!
Thanks very much Michael , I got a set too for Almiera and I am curious to see how abrasive the surface actually is , I hope you get along with these tyres, Let me know please how you got on, thanks for watching my stuff mate
GREAT VIDEO! I watched your previous video before trying them for the first time last November on a wet Almeria (yes it rained!). Going back there in March. I still have the same pair, I will be turning the rear before to get more life. I will bring another pair as they are 4 days on track. And hopefully we get all 4 days DRY conditions X
Aaahhhh I am in Almiera in April. I am gutted , we could have been sharing the same piece of tarmac . Almiera is tough for these tyres but they last better than others . Rain in Almiera is so rare , it’s a so dry there , you were very unlucky. I hope you get decent time there mate. Thanks for watching both of my videos and really appreciate the comment
@@ChasingTenths oh what a shame. Yeah I was told Almería is extremely abrasive! It is apparently the driest circuit in Europe, we were VERY unlucky lol
Always authorised metzeler/ Pirelli dealers Pirelli own metzeler so always go to a Pirelli specialist In the U.K. we have many internet tyre shops dedicated for track tires
Hey Abhi thanks for the insight on these tires. I'm interested in possibly giving these a try for my set but I'm not seeing them sold here in the U.S. so far and the cost looks to be more expensive than my current set (I'm currently on Bridgestone R22s med comp on my R6). These tires originally came when I bought the bike and they are awesome! In regards to tire warmers, imho always follow the manufacturers' recommendations and you can't go wrong. Honestly, it's cheap insurance to make sure your equipment is at its optimum before you let 'er rip!
Some really good stuff you mentioned there R22 are decent , do it all tyre , I watched a Dave Moss video on these Metzeler TD slick and even Dave was surprised to see them at Laguna Seca. They are rare in USA that’s for sure but they are there I know , I think Pirelli need to do a bit more promotional stuff for Metzeler in USA . I agree with your point on following manufacturer guidelines. Good to hear from you Eric , thanks for the detailed comment
Great content👍 It seems there are a lot of different meanings about the TD slicks out there, very positive to negative... But most negative meanings seem to be about the front Tyre... So I want to try the same like you, but with Metzeler RR Slick K1 instead. Anybody experience with this Setup? (Metzeler TD Slick on Rear and Metzeler RR Slick K1 on Front)
Yes I have tried it too , it’s absolutely brilliant, no problem at all… Honestly I never had issues with metzeler TD I have gone through 10 rear tyres now but only used front twice Metzeler K1 RR front is superb
Interesting video. We used them at Jerez in sept, around 39 degrees ambient, we shared a Daytona 675 and used a rear in a day, when it got near the wear limit it seemed to give quite a few warnings, then my mate had a massive high side on a new one in session 2. I still love the tyre and want to use again but equally quite a few have said they get quite sketchy in those upper ambient temperatures. Would be good to get views on how they have been in the hotter temps
Very interesting point, I started using them in march 2020 and that was just before covid properly came but all euros were cancelled or postponed after that because of Covid so I never did a euro since 2019, it would be interesting to try it at high temps, I had a few mates who tried it in Mugello at 38 degrees with no issues and Estoril . But you are absolutely right about early warning wear signs, on my 6th trackday this year , I was getting lovely slides and I knew the tire is probably saying change me and next trackday I changed it. Thanks for the detailed comment, I am even more curious to run it in high temps , I am in Almiera in April so that would be interesting.
@@ChasingTenths I did us it in Cremona by 39 degré, cs1 did 10 turn and burned, no issue at all with the td slick! I'm going to Mugello next week and I ordered a new pair of td, but it will be 7 to 14 degré I don't find any review about low temp with this tire.
Absolutely Tom , no harm in trying , but if it is V02 slicks you are on, they are also an absolutely brilliant tyre. But this Metzeler is more versatile and flexible and definitely lasts longer. Cheers for watching
Nice one Abhi. I’m not totally convinced by this tyre choice to be honest. I got through a pair in 3 track days last year and got a fair bit of slippage. I bought another rear for donington so plan to use for the first couple but think I’ll try the Vo2 out tbh 👍
wow , very interesting , my experience was totally opposite to that , 6 days I had on the rear and we both have similar pace.It's probably the way your bike delivers power down, I know I had a guy on hypermotard Ducati 2021 , chewed the tyre in 1.5 days. try the V02 , or Dunlop too and measure degradation , they aren't bad too. It's al about trying and getting the feel. cheers for the honest feedback there.
Did you use warmers and keep heated all day? You are gentle, smooth (but fast) on the throttle? Then they should last at least 5 days. But... High cc 2cil bikes can eat every tire up in a day
Hi Abhi, Really interesting video! One day maybe ill get to try some slicks? At the moment im not really quick enough to make it worthwhile! Great to watch your findings though.
Dont worry about being quick enough , if you are in the middle to high novice times then you'll be fine but what you need to get used to is the overall profile of the slick , when leaning , you will feel you are dipping in to the corner abruptly but thats the nature of a slick profile. In the long run of things you'll start to enjoy the benefits the slicks give you , you can take many liberties on a slick ;) with due care off course. Thanks for commenting and watching Rob
Hi Abhi, glad you are enjoying the tyres they are very good - I have found them better at some tracks than others - on faster corner tracks I prefer the Pirelli Superbike slicks 200/60 profile but can't argue with any points there .. ps did you walk Mallory or ride it !!??!! haha 58 mins !!
Hahaha , definitely rode Mallory but what an error in the video lol , I even typed it wrong lol … the Pirelli slick is superb mate and in high speed stuff it’s superb , it’s just that this Metzeler a bit more flexible than that may be a tad slower than Pirelli slick but for us mortals I guess it’s ok . It’s the racers who really feel everything , thanks for your feedback on it , I truly love when people tell me about their experiences with it
Great video, thanks for the info! I'm using supercorsas sc2(non slick) with tire warmers, and I was thinking using this metzeler as my first slick experience(also for cost/benefit reasons). It will be a good move and is it much grippier or almost the same thing? For Portimao and Estoril medium group Thanks again
Thank you for the kind words , It’s similar but the slick tyres have slightly different construct to road legal SC2 Supercorsa Especially the Metzeler TD as the aspect ratio of that is only 55 It’s a less peaky tyre Which means the ergonomics of the bike slightly changes so if you have OEM Rearsets on your bike then your ground clearance is reduced so your foot pegs might touch the ground and you might need to raise the footpegs if you have after market footrests
@@ChasingTenths thanks for the answer! the supercorsas I use are 180/55 too. And I saw on metzeler site that there is also a 180/60 profile soo it should be similar? Or you are refering to a different point?
I heard they will be doing that soon, I guess 200/60 prpbably was most commonly used. I have no idea why limited size was used. Thanks for the appreciation and comment
how can you run 6 days on these tyres? I run in between fast/intermediate group (basically around 2.00 @ Assen). Tyre guys here say the ideal times for this tyre is about 1.50-2.05 at Assen. Tyre wear looks perfect so i guess pressures are good. After about 2 trackdays the rear shows heavy deformation... i run an r6... the heck am I doing wrong? Geomtry should be setup for 180/60 rear
I know what you mean mate, it’s circuit depending . In the U.K. we have very smooth tracks except 3 plus I run a over suspension device in the rear which I believe is helping the rear tyre life . Or may be it’s the very smooth power delivery of the RSV4 RF , they normally have very smooth predictable power. I am also in the fast group always and times are good but this year I am racing and I noticed on the test day at when my i2m temperature sensors were showing the temperature displayed of the rear tyre while riding on track to be 76 degrees, the rear started sliding quite a bit so I then moved to SC2 Pirelli slick in the rear and I used the SC2 for the 5 hour endurance race and it was the best decision because even though the metzeler lasts very long but I noticed when it got very very hot , it started to slide a lot
Try No limits trackdays website, they had a 10 percent deal going 2 days ago I think , they always are very very good with these Metz or Pirelli tires, also try AR Racing, speak to Craig Thompson there, find them on Facebook , very easy, feel free to mention me or my channel, he will definitely look after you, he also fits tyres for No Limits events too. Offcourse prices can be up and down.
I don’t have digital ones mate honestly , but I have seen people keep them their at 85 degrees c :) Thanks for watching mate Feel free to ask anything on these
This is a great video! I've just bought an Aprilia RSV4 2010 with these tires. I'm an intermediate rider moving up from a CBR600RR (previously rode an R1 on road) but I have never run slicks. I've got a TD booked a Donny next week and am unsure of how much life the tires have in them. I know they have wear indicators but the front looks rather low, FL-4.3mm FR-2.5mm & RL-5mm RR-3.5mm) can you offer any advice on when to change? I know to change them for my own peace of mind but if I could squeeze another day at least would be good
Thank you for the kind words, sorry for the late reply , I was at track for a 2 days trackday , I would change the tires after 4 Trackdays or maximum 5 I would say that’s plenty of heat cycles, even if the wear markers are there, I think 5 Trackdays have plenty of heat cycles and then you take the bike home then bring to track , the cool down and heat up effect , Top advice directly from metzeler, after a trackday when you are packing up , keep the tyres in warmers, they don’t get brittle ish easily or get hard and slidy
Thanks for the cool video very informative. Would R25 F35 apply to other slicks also? Could you describe how going higher or lower in pressure would physically reduce your grip?
Thanks David for the kind words, I would say Pirelli and Dunlop slicks are Rear 24 psi and front 33 psi but also these days you have so many different aspect ratios front and rear , you have the front in 125 aspect ratio and rear 190/55 , 190/60, 200/55, 200/60, 200/65 , plus pressures can depend on one's talent level and the track and ambient temps on that particular day... the best thing is to speak to the tyre tech guy on the track on that particular day and then you can determine the right pressures for you....lower pressures on the rear will definitely give you more grip but you also need to think with the front especially, the 125 aspect ratio has a bigger side tyre wall so it needs unto 36 psi hot on the front because the tyre wall squeezes when you brake really hard so to maintain that squeeze from over squeezing you need slightly higher pressures. I was racing few months back in the endurance championship and we had Gary Johnson the Isle of Man racer racing with us, he is slightly heavy and was using 125 aspect ratio front , he had 38 psi hot in front.. I wasshocked.
No my friend , I haven’t had any particular info , I would highly recommend you trying either their website or U.K. stockist “no limits racing” , their website mentions all the sizes and stocks as metzeler and Pirelli are the control tyres for their endurance racing series where I am racing in :)
that's a very very good question, the profile of the Metzeler K1 Racetec RR is a road tyre profile and not a thorough bred race slick like the Metzeler TD, I just didn't want to feel odd ergonomics in the front compared to the back and now thinking about it, I never thought of using a Metzeler CompK slick in the front too, I simply went with Pirelli SC1 front slick as I took loads of liberties with it in Jerez and Portimao and a record breaking hot temperature Donington and it kept me on tarmac even though I was a bit silly at times. thanks for watching and asking a stunning question.
@@ChasingTenths sorry my bad for some particular reason i thought you ran a front sc1 supercorsa. That makes total sense now. Keep up the good informative videos they're a very good watch
After one year using Supercorsa v2 Sc1 front and Sc2 rear on my 2021 RSV4, I'm going to try this year Racetech slick K1 front and TD slick on the rear 😀. I love the feeling and grip of supercorsa but the rear is out after 8 runs of 20 min. I expect my new footage will last longer and improve my lap time in the fast group 🤪. Your channel is very good, always a pleasure to watch our content and it's help me to improve my english (I'm french).
Great question Tristan, the profile of this tyre is totally a race slick profile where as the supercorsa is a more of a road profile, I used supercorsa many times on the circuit and when I switched to the TD slick the bike will fall into corners straight away just like any other slick , it takes some getting used to but the grip is fantastic , more contact patch and coming out of corners the Metz TD is much more superior. Don’t get me wrong a fast rider will be epic even on a supercorsa but these Metz have all the same physical characteristics of a race slick with not much drawback at all and much better than supercorsas
I never used slicks as I know I don't get the most from a supercorsa and so have tended to stick to them as scrubs rather than spend double and not be able to use the performance. However I'm convinced by yourself and others to give them a crack and the longevity is obviously a bonus! Cheers for the content I know you put a lot in to it
@@tristandrew5903 thank you Tristan for the kind words, I was just like you , slightly skeptic on slicks due to my intermediate pace in 2019 but I put a set of slicks on in Jerez 2019 on a hot day , it changed me as a rider totally. With slicks you can take a few more liberties , and with these slicks they retain and gather heat quick and even on medium pace they don’t show silly wear marks . You’ll be fine. Do let me know how you got on mate, I am curious with first timers on slicks . Best of luck mate
Trying to decide what way to from road tyre currently 10secs off you lap times but on s22's and 2016 fireblade deciding to go these td slicks or pirelli sc1 and sc2 rear supercorsa treaded?
Definitely start with Pirelli supercorsas sc1 and sc2 combination because the profile of that tire is still very similar to the S22 so it won’t be a total shock to your system as slicks can have very aggressive profile and sometimes you turn into the corner and it feels like you will have a sudden unexpected lean (dip). The sc1 and sc2 has got long life and plenty of grip , when your pace improves on them then move to slicks . You will love the sc1 sc2 , spend time on them
Isn't the profile allot better on super corsas looking for better profile than my s22's using 190/55 at minute was going to go same in sc's but expected the profile to be much better?
@@markhodgkinson8926 Yes the SC profile is m ore aggressive and better suited for track with more contact patch on the side, I was comparing the Sc to Metzeler, Metzeler TD has even more aggressive profile . Move to Pirelli Sc and then to Metzler TD , I did the same :)
I went Mallory park twice last year and actually editing that video now . I do walk around the tracks a lot to capture other bikes and scenery and stuff . Did you see me there ? :)
@@ChasingTenths I always walk tracks I race, even if been many times, I mean your video sated 50+ minutes not seconds😂 Iv not actually seen you on track yet as don’t so many track days but one day maybe
@@arthurgissing7387 ohhhhh hahah , yes mate , I made a mistake there , I proofed checked the video 3 times , I still didn’t notice that mistake lol . Definitely 58 seconds that lol Love Mallory I actually did a 50 odd min documentary style video on that track Love it , it’s only 50 mins from me.
@@arthurgissing7387 absolutely Arthur , definitely would be good to see you mate , I might be racing at the endurance series at cadwell . So you never know :) Cheers for the appreciation mate
Lol, mate , that was so funny. I proof checked the video 3 times before posting , how the hell I missed out on that, crazy, It's Definitely 58 secs lol. Well spotted ;)
I disagree....the pirelli are reversable....ride 30+ trackdays a year, instruct and control ride....never an issue flipping them and even flip dot pirelli...
I think you misunderstood, everyone can reverse tires if they want to , at their own will and risk however Pirelli do not recommend it . I do a lot of work with Pirelli British superbike tire guys, they never reverse a single one on the bikes of BSB boys or even in our national endurance championship they refuse to reverse it due to liability / claim risks . If someone wants to reserve it’s absolutely up to them and they can do it as many times as they want but Pirelli fitters won’t do it in the paddock … And I wasn’t going to shout it out loud on a public forum like UA-cam and encourage people to do it . If Pirelli tire engineers fit and change tyres by the book , that’s what I will be promoting too. If you wish me to give you their direct contact then please do let me know, I’ll get you In touch with Pirelli U.K.
Great tire for the money. Very long lasting and more than enough grip for 90 percent of riders at track days.
I couldn’t have said it any better
I’ve only just discovered you and have enjoyed your comprehensive tyre videos. You are an excellent presenter - clear, easy to follow, and speak at a nice fast pace. I’m going to try your combination of SC1 front and TD rear on my S1000RR and see how we go.
wow , thats a huge compliment , much much appreciated . I haver some Dunlop and continental videos lined up too so I hope you enjoy them as much as I enjoy making them :)
Thanks I appreciate your views. Will give them a try. Cheaper than my usual road tyres
No worries mate , all the best with it, let me know here how it goes for you , I am always curious
Mallory park 58 minutes dead! Tyre change due I’d say 😂 great video abhi keep it up!
Hahaha Daniel , you know what , not only I said 58 mins , I actually typed it too on there . How the hell I didn’t realise it while typing lol . But I am glad people understand it though Phewww , saves me correcting on video description. Cheers for watching , good attention to detail , no one mentioned this in the comment section. Lol
Thank you for this much appreciated video.
Will research a little further as looking at fitting slicks for the first time during a return trip to Portimao in June.
No worries Shaun, last week I made two videos on slicks, they might be helpful too .. thanks for the appreciation
thanks for the awesome info on the video i think I'm going to give hese a go on my next track day in portimao at the end of may with no limits
Fantastic, happy to be of help
My pace has much improved since this video but I still use the metzeler TD and I absolutely love it
Do not use it if the ambient temperature is too too high
They start to slide at fast pace
Super many thanks Abhi 💪💪💪💪🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
No problem mate. Thank you to you for watching and commenting . Really lovely that
Im fairly new to motorcycling, but i can already tell that i want to go racing(On a budget of course). So this vid was wonderfully informative, thanks for sharing!
No problem mate, I am so glad it helped. I started racing this year so you can check out the race video of Silverstone, our first round
@@ChasingTenths definitely gonna check it out👌🏾
@@SONO4B11T anytime you need any advice feel free to ask on relevant social media mate
great video - I did 13 track days on TD this year. But pressure for me on hot days is up to 28 psi for Rear.
Very interesting point mate, I am playing with the pressures too on these , I have heard many people trying 27 or 28 psi in hotter euro track events, so far this tyre hasn't let me down or given me nasty surprises
Extremely good video. I have been considering slicks for a couple of years and the release of this td slick has convinced me. Also cheaper than my recent r11’s.
Thank you very much Stephen , I have tried the R10 but never the R11, always heard good stuff though about them . I think if you move to slicks , definitely give these a try . Hope they will be ok for you , honestly they don’t demand rocket fast pace to get working . Thanks for appreciating the video and commenting on it mate
Great video as per mate.
Hope to see you next season 👌
Thank you mate, cheers for the comment . Absolutely, I look forward to seeing you no doubt:)
Very helpful Tire breakdown, thanks for your time.
Thanks for appreciating the effort which goes into these videos Chris especially after my day job. Very well written comment . Cheers
What a great video man. Thanks!
No problem at all , most welcome 🤗
Bought a set of TD and a set of wets today based on your recommendation. Ch ching. It's ramen noodles for the rest of the week cheers abi
😂😂😂 that’s so funny , I remember buying a set of wets and Pirelli racing slicks together before the racing season and I thought what the hell, tyres are so expensive, but metzeler is still keeping costs in check compared to Pirelli at times .
So let me know how you got on Phill, cheers mate, all the best
Great video man really enjoyed it. Very informative keep up the good work well done dude 👏👏
Cheers mate, thanks for watching and commenting :)
Great video Abhi. This really helped me due to the fact that I am moving from using a road bike to a track bike. I have used my road bike on track several times but as I have started advancing in my pace I felt not to risk my road bike so got a track bike and was looking for a tyre such as the Metzeler td slicks. I am now convinced that this tyre would really suit my need. Thank you again for this informative video! Ride safe!
Thank you for this meaningful comment , I am glad the video was helpful: ) , really happy , best of luck mate , hope it goes well
I agree with all of your reasons for using tire warmers in an advance group. For me I ran them intentionally without warmers. Also, for me there seemed to be a 3-4psi range in pressure that all worked the same. Great video.
Thats brilliant Jason, I am curious to know how did you find them without warmers, any thermal degradation issues or cold tears or blisters on the surface, were you happy with everything? And what were the ambient temperatures that day?
it would be very interesting to know your feedback.
You CAN run them cold, but they last a bit longer if you preheat (keep heated all day) AND you can go full throttle from 1st corner with warmers. Buy a cheap set of warmers
Regarding the warmers, I've run Supercorsa SC1/SC2 and the old Metzeler CompK slicks without warmers. They are not plastic blocks when cold and work perfectly fine. If you push too hard too fast maybe you could overcome them, but tearing is likely to be a greater issue. People also underestimate how well you warm your tyres by riding and overestimate their tyre warmers. Leave tyre warmers on for an hour and the surface will be hot but the rim probably lukewarm at best. But go out on cold slicks in the morning, do your 3 sighting laps and come into the pits to check. You'll find that not only are your tyres hot but your rim will be too. Who knew that 100+ hp would heat your tyres quicker than 1KW of tyre blankets..
That is so so well said , some excellent pointers there mate. Something a lot of people under estimate.
Thanks for this wonderful insight
SIR THANK YOU FOR ALL THE INFORMACION AMAZING VIDEO VERY USEFUL THANK YOU A LOT ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
No problem Yiannis, I am glad it was useful :)
@@ChasingTenths OF COURSE IT IS ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! WE NEED YOUR EXPERIENCE ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
@@yiannishayabusaofficial i am grateful for your words , but I am no expert mate but I just try to explain stuff better than some. :)
@@ChasingTenths THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
ive used them been through 2 sets as track and intermediate race...really like them...the pressure is about right. I have a race this sunday, and the tyres have been on since last jan 2020, and due to covid have not been used. Still bit of life but debating to use them again, or get a new set as not sure on shelf life sitting on the bike for 1.5 years not used...
Thats a long time mate with no use, if the tyres were lifted from the ground , bike on paddock stands, you should be ok , with no flat spot issues. Also, a lot of people underestimate the effect of cold ground passing through tyre rubber if not on paddock stands. Also, if you think your wear is already less then you might as well buy a new set or rear . Let me know how it goes , I wish you well on your race after so long , you must feel slightly rusty with all due respect.
Awesome content as usual!!
Thanks very much Jason, very much appreciated
hahaha,,,sorry,i know i shouldn't lol,but the pic you choose to demonstrates how tire warmer are crucial for the first few laps and the confidence ...woaw,that is shocking,after seeing it i guess a lot of riders will run fast to their fav dealer and get a tire warmer set right there LOL. a very important point for me is that,tire warmers kind of extracts the max of the lifespan of the tires ,and their performance too .
as for the racetec TD i've been on the fence to try a set.i uses pirelli SC's tires for track days,but hey,they're the same company in fact and i heard good things about the TD's i think i'm gonna try a set on my track day R1's....funny enough we're both the same kind of aggressive rider on the brakes. people say i'm a devil on the brakes and true the SC front holds very well in that matter .on another note, you pointed out DAVE MOSS as credible reference in matter of suspension.well said man. for me, DAVE MOSS is my guru in matter of suspension..to me the suspension set up being the most important part for fast lap times,and general stability of the bike.
very good detailed review of those tires Abhi. as usual, very informative.
Thanks Sylvan as always , very good points there , I especially like the point where you mentioned that tyre warmers can actually in a way extract the maximum from a tyre. Really good point that . Dave is really clever , I quite like him very much and he always says sensible stuff and Is very just to people from all riding groups .
Good luck on track this coming year mate , see how you get on , if you are going well on your Perreli tyres then you don’t need to move on to something else . Something isn’t broken then don’t fix it but feel free to try , if you do then let me know . Cheers
Much appreciated your views mate
Hey Abhi, as always you push out good material here for us 'track junkies'. Although I'm in Inters I don't think I'm worthy of any slicks, but then I do have to ride my bike to the circuit and my Mrs follows in the S3 with all the track crap I need for the day. and slicks won't pass the MOT at InMoto for me, even tho I sort of know the guys there. I have a set of Michelin Cup 2s ready for 2022 season which are basically a slick compound with a few small cuts in the middle and 3 inches of bare slick from the outside and are actually road legal, it has been raved about and tested by the best, even ex racer Sylvain Guintoli and Dave Moss, the suspension Guru. I got in touch with Sylvain and Dave last year for some recommendations on cold temp settings, they're awesome guys, like yourself because they take the time to reply with good sound advice. I've had the suspension setup by RaceLab, turning an awesome handling bike into a super awesome handling bike. As you yourself know 😉
Hey Gio , Looks like you ticked all the boxes there , those Cup 2s are brilliant tyres if someone isn't wanting to move to slicks yet or has a road/track bike. And yup , I did see that Video of Guintoli and Dave Moss on that tyre, well respected guys , really thorough. what a coincidence that I mentioned both those guys in this video. Good to see you are doing all the right things mate. Well done , thanks for watching and supporting as always with your detailed comment.
@@ChasingTenths always a pleasure watching your vids Abhi. I'm sure our patches will cross on track within time. Stay cool Sir👍🏻😎
@@verdeboyo absolutely mate, 100 percent . Until then I truly appreciate the amount of support I get from you even as a small creator
Thank you .. that was educational
No problem Mujahed , glad it was useful :)
Enjoying your videos
Just ordered a set of racetek K1 slicks (they will be my fist set of slicks) these are being discontinued here in the USA
I will get the TD slick version next
Brilliant Miguel , thanks for the support and following and appreciation.
Hope you enjoy those Racetec slicks , they are pretty good , really deal well why track undulating surfaces and varied temps
Great video, very informative!
Thank you very much Dal
Cheers for taking time out to comment
Really good video !!
Thank you very very much mate, cheers for taking time out to comment :)
Well done
Thanks Kevin , much appreciated
Useful video was planning on trying the metzler TD next. Would love to see a video on what wet tires to use for cold wet UK trackdays now I have some spare wheels.
Hey Steven , thanks for the comment. Yeah these Metzeler TD are great , well there’s a well known rumour in the paddock that Bridgestone W01 are the best wets but Pirelli wets are right up there too . But you have given me food for thought , I’ll do a video on the wets soon
Cool video.. 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you mate , glad you liked it.
Nice one Abhi! After watching your progress with these tyres have made the switch from Dunlop TTs and got a set of these for Andalucia in a couple of weeks which am V excited about mate. Awesome content as always!
Thanks very much Michael , I got a set too for Almiera and I am curious to see how abrasive the surface actually is , I hope you get along with these tyres, Let me know please how you got on, thanks for watching my stuff mate
@@ChasingTenths Will do Buddy!
@@michaellee5730 cheers mate
GREAT VIDEO! I watched your previous video before trying them for the first time last November on a wet Almeria (yes it rained!). Going back there in March. I still have the same pair, I will be turning the rear before to get more life. I will bring another pair as they are 4 days on track. And hopefully we get all 4 days DRY conditions X
Aaahhhh I am in Almiera in April. I am gutted , we could have been sharing the same piece of tarmac . Almiera is tough for these tyres but they last better than others . Rain in Almiera is so rare , it’s a so dry there , you were very unlucky. I hope you get decent time there mate. Thanks for watching both of my videos and really appreciate the comment
@@ChasingTenths oh what a shame. Yeah I was told Almería is extremely abrasive! It is apparently the driest circuit in Europe, we were VERY unlucky lol
@@ducatinya proper proper unlucky that , I am sure you will be fine now . Lightening can’t strike twice🤞🏽 😁
👍
Thanks Sasha :)
@@ChasingTenths Keep doing a good job... :)
@@sashababich827 Thanks again Sasha
Good Stuff Abhi..
Thanks very much mate , cheers for the comment :)
Very nice info, I have a question for you, where do you buy your tires, internet, shop, is safe to buy on internet? Thank you for sharing
Always authorised metzeler/ Pirelli dealers
Pirelli own metzeler so always go to a Pirelli specialist
In the U.K. we have many internet tyre shops dedicated for track tires
Hey Abhi thanks for the insight on these tires. I'm interested in possibly giving these a try for my set but I'm not seeing them sold here in the U.S. so far and the cost looks to be more expensive than my current set (I'm currently on Bridgestone R22s med comp on my R6). These tires originally came when I bought the bike and they are awesome! In regards to tire warmers, imho always follow the manufacturers' recommendations and you can't go wrong. Honestly, it's cheap insurance to make sure your equipment is at its optimum before you let 'er rip!
Some really good stuff you mentioned there R22 are decent , do it all tyre , I watched a Dave Moss video on these Metzeler TD slick and even Dave was surprised to see them at Laguna Seca. They are rare in USA that’s for sure but they are there I know , I think Pirelli need to do a bit more promotional stuff for Metzeler in USA . I agree with your point on following manufacturer guidelines. Good to hear from you Eric , thanks for the detailed comment
@@ChasingTenths Sorry I meant the R11s. I plan to get them again for this coming year
@@pnoyryder68 yes mate , R11 are smashing tyres
Really good choice
Hope you have a safe 2022 on track
Great content👍
It seems there are a lot of different meanings about the TD slicks out there, very positive to negative... But most negative meanings seem to be about the front Tyre...
So I want to try the same like you, but with Metzeler RR Slick K1 instead. Anybody experience with this Setup? (Metzeler TD Slick on Rear and Metzeler RR Slick K1 on Front)
Yes I have tried it too , it’s absolutely brilliant, no problem at all…
Honestly I never had issues with metzeler TD
I have gone through 10 rear tyres now but only used front twice
Metzeler K1 RR front is superb
@@ChasingTenthsThanks for the quick answer. What did you like more, all metzeler TD or combination RR Slick with TD? Or is it almost the same?
@@simonotto168 RR Racetec K1 front and Racetec TD rear but rear hot pressure must be 25 to 26 PSI HOT
@@ChasingTenthsPerfect, thanks for the help. Already ordered this setup.
Nice interesting video👍👍
Thank you very much for constant support as always
It helps out so much
Interesting video. We used them at Jerez in sept, around 39 degrees ambient, we shared a Daytona 675 and used a rear in a day, when it got near the wear limit it seemed to give quite a few warnings, then my mate had a massive high side on a new one in session 2. I still love the tyre and want to use again but equally quite a few have said they get quite sketchy in those upper ambient temperatures. Would be good to get views on how they have been in the hotter temps
Very interesting point, I started using them in march 2020 and that was just before covid properly came but all euros were cancelled or postponed after that because of Covid so I never did a euro since 2019, it would be interesting to try it at high temps, I had a few mates who tried it in Mugello at 38 degrees with no issues and Estoril . But you are absolutely right about early warning wear signs, on my 6th trackday this year , I was getting lovely slides and I knew the tire is probably saying change me and next trackday I changed it. Thanks for the detailed comment, I am even more curious to run it in high temps , I am in Almiera in April so that would be interesting.
@@ChasingTenths I did us it in Cremona by 39 degré, cs1 did 10 turn and burned, no issue at all with the td slick! I'm going to Mugello next week and I ordered a new pair of td, but it will be 7 to 14 degré I don't find any review about low temp with this tire.
@@Prevotois thank you Stefan
Much appreciated the feedback
@@ChasingTenths and do you have a idea about the td slick in the cold ? I dont know if its a good idea to take them to mugello and the 7-14 degré 😅
@@Prevotois don’t use slicks anything less than 12 degrees
Metzeler K3 RR Racetec is excellent for that condition
Or Pirelli Supercorsa Sc2 or Sp
Hmmm, interesting! Might have to make the swap from my current Bridgestones
Absolutely Tom , no harm in trying , but if it is V02 slicks you are on, they are also an absolutely brilliant tyre. But this Metzeler is more versatile and flexible and definitely lasts longer.
Cheers for watching
Nice one Abhi. I’m not totally convinced by this tyre choice to be honest. I got through a pair in 3 track days last year and got a fair bit of slippage. I bought another rear for donington so plan to use for the first couple but think I’ll try the Vo2 out tbh 👍
wow , very interesting , my experience was totally opposite to that , 6 days I had on the rear and we both have similar pace.It's probably the way your bike delivers power down, I know I had a guy on hypermotard Ducati 2021 , chewed the tyre in 1.5 days. try the V02 , or Dunlop too and measure degradation , they aren't bad too. It's al about trying and getting the feel. cheers for the honest feedback there.
@@ChasingTenths will just have to book plenty of track days to test a few brands out this year for good measure 😄
Did you use warmers and keep heated all day?
You are gentle, smooth (but fast) on the throttle?
Then they should last at least 5 days.
But... High cc 2cil bikes can eat every tire up in a day
@@lillnemo1 just had a bad rear in my first pairing, it happens. Stuck with them and never had any other issues
what tyre do you recomend to a 600cc 180/60 or 190/55?
180 mate 100 percent , easier turn in and less rotational mass. Definitely 180 no doubts
Hi Abhi, Really interesting video! One day maybe ill get to try some slicks? At the moment im not really quick enough to make it worthwhile! Great to watch your findings though.
Dont worry about being quick enough , if you are in the middle to high novice times then you'll be fine but what you need to get used to is the overall profile of the slick , when leaning , you will feel you are dipping in to the corner abruptly but thats the nature of a slick profile. In the long run of things you'll start to enjoy the benefits the slicks give you , you can take many liberties on a slick ;) with due care off course. Thanks for commenting and watching Rob
Thanks for giving me a different perspective! food for thought, cheers.@@ChasingTenths
Totally agree with Abhi here Rob, you will be fine and wonder why you never made the change sooner to slicks
@@robh952 no problem Rob, feel free to ask anything :) always happy to help
@@ChasingTenths Thanks Abhi!
Hi Abhi, glad you are enjoying the tyres they are very good - I have found them better at some tracks than others - on faster corner tracks I prefer the Pirelli Superbike slicks 200/60 profile but can't argue with any points there .. ps did you walk Mallory or ride it !!??!! haha 58 mins !!
Hahaha , definitely rode Mallory but what an error in the video lol , I even typed it wrong lol … the Pirelli slick is superb mate and in high speed stuff it’s superb , it’s just that this Metzeler a bit more flexible than that may be a tad slower than Pirelli slick but for us mortals I guess it’s ok . It’s the racers who really feel everything , thanks for your feedback on it , I truly love when people tell me about their experiences with it
Great video, thanks for the info!
I'm using supercorsas sc2(non slick) with tire warmers, and I was thinking using this metzeler as my first slick experience(also for cost/benefit reasons). It will be a good move and is it much grippier or almost the same thing?
For Portimao and Estoril medium group
Thanks again
Thank you for the kind words ,
It’s similar but the slick tyres have slightly different construct to road legal SC2 Supercorsa
Especially the Metzeler TD as the aspect ratio of that is only 55
It’s a less peaky tyre
Which means the ergonomics of the bike slightly changes so if you have OEM Rearsets on your bike then your ground clearance is reduced so your foot pegs might touch the ground and you might need to raise the footpegs if you have after market footrests
@@ChasingTenths thanks for the answer!
the supercorsas I use are 180/55 too. And I saw on metzeler site that there is also a 180/60 profile soo it should be similar? Or you are refering to a different point?
@@ral0958 aaahh I didn’t know they already did the 180/60
I thought that was planned for 2025
Yes that should be similar
You will be fine with 180/60
Great video. Do you know why it is availble only in 200/55 size and not in 200/60?
I heard they will be doing that soon, I guess 200/60 prpbably was most commonly used. I have no idea why limited size was used. Thanks for the appreciation and comment
how can you run 6 days on these tyres? I run in between fast/intermediate group (basically around 2.00 @ Assen). Tyre guys here say the ideal times for this tyre is about 1.50-2.05 at Assen. Tyre wear looks perfect so i guess pressures are good. After about 2 trackdays the rear shows heavy deformation... i run an r6... the heck am I doing wrong? Geomtry should be setup for 180/60 rear
I know what you mean mate, it’s circuit depending . In the U.K. we have very smooth tracks except 3 plus I run a over suspension device in the rear which I believe is helping the rear tyre life . Or may be it’s the very smooth power delivery of the RSV4 RF , they normally have very smooth predictable power. I am also in the fast group always and times are good but this year I am racing and I noticed on the test day at when my i2m temperature sensors were showing the temperature displayed of the rear tyre while riding on track to be 76 degrees, the rear started sliding quite a bit so I then moved to SC2 Pirelli slick in the rear and I used the SC2 for the 5 hour endurance race and it was the best decision because even though the metzeler lasts very long but I noticed when it got very very hot , it started to slide a lot
Hii mate. Do you think ill get 3 days out of these tyres at portimao. Im running in inters
@@leespooner1273 yes absolutely, you will be fine for sure
No issues at all
@@ChasingTenths cheers
I’ve used them for the last two years and I’m fucking rapid
Lol 😂… you are unbelievable 😂
I bet you have a glass of wine in your left hand , typing this with the right hand 😜
@@ChasingTenths I don’t drink at home I just look back through old Bob Collins posts. 😂😂
@@mostlymotorbikes lol so random
lol 😂
Where are they available for £290 a pair?
Try No limits trackdays website, they had a 10 percent deal going 2 days ago I think , they always are very very good with these Metz or Pirelli tires, also try AR Racing, speak to Craig Thompson there, find them on Facebook , very easy, feel free to mention me or my channel, he will definitely look after you, he also fits tyres for No Limits events too. Offcourse prices can be up and down.
Hi abhi
Great video mate.
I have just brought some digital tire warmers and was wondering what temp you set your warmers at for these tyres?
Thanks
I don’t have digital ones mate honestly , but I have seen people keep them their at 85 degrees c
:)
Thanks for watching mate
Feel free to ask anything on these
This is a great video! I've just bought an Aprilia RSV4 2010 with these tires. I'm an intermediate rider moving up from a CBR600RR (previously rode an R1 on road) but I have never run slicks. I've got a TD booked a Donny next week and am unsure of how much life the tires have in them. I know they have wear indicators but the front looks rather low, FL-4.3mm FR-2.5mm & RL-5mm RR-3.5mm) can you offer any advice on when to change? I know to change them for my own peace of mind but if I could squeeze another day at least would be good
Thank you for the kind words, sorry for the late reply , I was at track for a 2 days trackday ,
I would change the tires after 4 Trackdays or maximum 5
I would say that’s plenty of heat cycles, even if the wear markers are there, I think 5 Trackdays have plenty of heat cycles and then you take the bike home then bring to track , the cool down and heat up effect ,
Top advice directly from metzeler, after a trackday when you are packing up , keep the tyres in warmers, they don’t get brittle ish easily or get hard and slidy
Thanks for the cool video very informative. Would R25 F35 apply to other slicks also? Could you describe how going higher or lower in pressure would physically reduce your grip?
What pressures would you use at the track on tyres like for example S22 and R11 vs slicks
Thanks David for the kind words, I would say Pirelli and Dunlop slicks are Rear 24 psi and front 33 psi but also these days you have so many different aspect ratios front and rear , you have the front in 125 aspect ratio and rear 190/55 , 190/60, 200/55, 200/60, 200/65 , plus pressures can depend on one's talent level and the track and ambient temps on that particular day... the best thing is to speak to the tyre tech guy on the track on that particular day and then you can determine the right pressures for you....lower pressures on the rear will definitely give you more grip but you also need to think with the front especially, the 125 aspect ratio has a bigger side tyre wall so it needs unto 36 psi hot on the front because the tyre wall squeezes when you brake really hard so to maintain that squeeze from over squeezing you need slightly higher pressures. I was racing few months back in the endurance championship and we had Gary Johnson the Isle of Man racer racing with us, he is slightly heavy and was using 125 aspect ratio front , he had 38 psi hot in front.. I wasshocked.
Hey, Abhi do you have any information from Metzler if they will make 200/60-17 size?
No my friend , I haven’t had any particular info , I would highly recommend you trying either their website or U.K. stockist “no limits racing” , their website mentions all the sizes and stocks as metzeler and Pirelli are the control tyres for their endurance racing series where I am racing in :)
Out of curiosity what makes you run the sc1 in the front instead of a k1 Metzeler racetech?
that's a very very good question, the profile of the Metzeler K1 Racetec RR is a road tyre profile and not a thorough bred race slick like the Metzeler TD, I just didn't want to feel odd ergonomics in the front compared to the back and now thinking about it, I never thought of using a Metzeler CompK slick in the front too, I simply went with Pirelli SC1 front slick as I took loads of liberties with it in Jerez and Portimao and a record breaking hot temperature Donington and it kept me on tarmac even though I was a bit silly at times. thanks for watching and asking a stunning question.
@@ChasingTenths sorry my bad for some particular reason i thought you ran a front sc1 supercorsa. That makes total sense now. Keep up the good informative videos they're a very good watch
@@l3w12 aaahhhh makes sense that , don’t worry , nothing to apologise , let’s say it’s Pirelli’s fault for naming them both SC1 lol ;) .
After one year using Supercorsa v2 Sc1 front and Sc2 rear on my 2021 RSV4, I'm going to try this year Racetech slick K1 front and TD slick on the rear 😀.
I love the feeling and grip of supercorsa but the rear is out after 8 runs of 20 min.
I expect my new footage will last longer and improve my lap time in the fast group 🤪.
Your channel is very good, always a pleasure to watch our content and it's help me to improve my english (I'm french).
How does the outright grip compare with a Supercorsa SC1/2 (road track tyre)?
Great question Tristan, the profile of this tyre is totally a race slick profile where as the supercorsa is a more of a road profile, I used supercorsa many times on the circuit and when I switched to the TD slick the bike will fall into corners straight away just like any other slick , it takes some getting used to but the grip is fantastic , more contact patch and coming out of corners the Metz TD is much more superior. Don’t get me wrong a fast rider will be epic even on a supercorsa but these Metz have all the same physical characteristics of a race slick with not much drawback at all and much better than supercorsas
I never used slicks as I know I don't get the most from a supercorsa and so have tended to stick to them as scrubs rather than spend double and not be able to use the performance. However I'm convinced by yourself and others to give them a crack and the longevity is obviously a bonus! Cheers for the content I know you put a lot in to it
@@tristandrew5903 thank you Tristan for the kind words, I was just like you , slightly skeptic on slicks due to my intermediate pace in 2019 but I put a set of slicks on in Jerez 2019 on a hot day , it changed me as a rider totally. With slicks you can take a few more liberties , and with these slicks they retain and gather heat quick and even on medium pace they don’t show silly wear marks . You’ll be fine. Do let me know how you got on mate, I am curious with first timers on slicks .
Best of luck mate
Trying to decide what way to from road tyre currently 10secs off you lap times but on s22's and 2016 fireblade deciding to go these td slicks or pirelli sc1 and sc2 rear supercorsa treaded?
Definitely start with Pirelli supercorsas sc1 and sc2 combination because the profile of that tire is still very similar to the S22 so it won’t be a total shock to your system as slicks can have very aggressive profile and sometimes you turn into the corner and it feels like you will have a sudden unexpected lean (dip). The sc1 and sc2 has got long life and plenty of grip , when your pace improves on them then move to slicks . You will love the sc1 sc2 , spend time on them
Isn't the profile allot better on super corsas looking for better profile than my s22's using 190/55 at minute was going to go same in sc's but expected the profile to be much better?
@@markhodgkinson8926 Yes the SC profile is m ore aggressive and better suited for track with more contact patch on the side, I was comparing the Sc to Metzeler, Metzeler TD has even more aggressive profile . Move to Pirelli Sc and then to Metzler TD , I did the same :)
Thanks for the advice just getting some other upgrades then start doing some euro days next year.
Desperately want quick shifter and rearsets next.
did you walk round mallory park?? great video Abi.
I went Mallory park twice last year and actually editing that video now . I do walk around the tracks a lot to capture other bikes and scenery and stuff . Did you see me there ? :)
@@ChasingTenths I always walk tracks I race, even if been many times, I mean your video sated 50+ minutes not seconds😂 Iv not actually seen you on track yet as don’t so many track days but one day maybe
@@arthurgissing7387 ohhhhh hahah , yes mate , I made a mistake there , I proofed checked the video 3 times , I still didn’t notice that mistake lol . Definitely 58 seconds that lol
Love Mallory
I actually did a 50 odd min documentary style video on that track
Love it , it’s only 50 mins from me.
@@ChasingTenths might see you round sometime. I’m 30 mins from
Cadwell and about an hour for Mallory, keep up the videos!
@@arthurgissing7387 absolutely Arthur , definitely would be good to see you mate , I might be racing at the endurance series at cadwell . So you never know :)
Cheers for the appreciation mate
Mallory Park... 58 mins? you sure? :)
Lol, mate , that was so funny. I proof checked the video 3 times before posting , how the hell I missed out on that, crazy, It's Definitely 58 secs lol. Well spotted ;)
@@ChasingTenths "paar ki nazar. aur Nirma super"
@@PrateekMishra1 😂😂😂😂 perfect lol
Arey Nilema ji ayiye ayiye lol
I disagree....the pirelli are reversable....ride 30+ trackdays a year, instruct and control ride....never an issue flipping them and even flip dot pirelli...
I think you misunderstood, everyone can reverse tires if they want to , at their own will and risk however Pirelli do not recommend it . I do a lot of work with Pirelli British superbike tire guys, they never reverse a single one on the bikes of BSB boys or even in our national endurance championship they refuse to reverse it due to liability / claim risks . If someone wants to reserve it’s absolutely up to them and they can do it as many times as they want but Pirelli fitters won’t do it in the paddock … And I wasn’t going to shout it out loud on a public forum like UA-cam and encourage people to do it . If Pirelli tire engineers fit and change tyres by the book , that’s what I will be promoting too. If you wish me to give you their direct contact then please do let me know, I’ll get you In touch with Pirelli U.K.